1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. It is a victory Tuesday here in Pittsburgh. Yes, 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: not a Monday, a Tuesday. And what an eventful weekend, 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: What an eventful day today has been. Already we have 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: a major trade in the AFC, We have a major 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: injury in the AFC. With the lots going on, lot's 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: going on. But first I want to mention, Matt. I 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: was at your house for the rob king, was there 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: as well for the Halloween party and little gathering. 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you tried to pawn your cat off on me. 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. Cat's got issues, man, I'm trying to make him 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 4: an outdoor cat. 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: You didn't make it real positive by saying he likes 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom all over the house. 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I'm not real big on him. He's 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 4: also not real bright. I think one goes hand in 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: hand with the other. I wouldn't mind him exiting. If 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: anyone wants a lovely, soft cute cat, cutes could be 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 4: very friendly my least favorite animal we've ever had. I'm 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: a very animal friendly guy, and we've had a lot 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 4: of animals over here, including Larry the bird and fish 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: I like better than him too. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: So the cat, the cat goes number two all over 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: your house every two to three days in massive quantities. 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: When it all comes out at once, my day's a 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: day probably. 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: But my question to you would be, after the cat 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: goes number two all over your house, yeah, do you 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: then make it take a shower? It should because that's 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: apparently a thing at your house. It's a thing with 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: this guy. 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: And there's way more to that story than is for 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: this airways, and some of it's sort of medically related 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: that people don't want to hear about. 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: But your friends kept telling me when you would disappear 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: upstairs for a while, look and see if you had 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: wet hair. When he came back to it happens. Well, 41 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: it's a good thing to host. 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 5: I did it. 43 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: Actually I shouldn't tell this story, but a good friend 44 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: of mine bought a house that people would know in 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: the South Hills and it was probably ten years ago 46 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: and we were all in like suits and ties. I'm like, 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: oh man, I gotta go there's plenty of spots in 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 4: his house. You can sneak away into the corners that 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: no one's gonna bug you. I did, and I'm sitting 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: there and had a few, and I'm like. 51 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 2: The shower's right there. No one's good at all. 52 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: So I popped back wet hair, suit and tie, and 53 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: we weren't as close to that as one of the 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: first times I had been to his house. He's like, 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: just get a showered at my house. Yeah, down the 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 4: basement that it hasn't been used in ten years. There's 57 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 4: only four people live here and you got seven showers 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: in your house. Yeah, but it's a phobia mine. And 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: now I guess the world knows it's more than a phobia. 60 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: But I'm not ashamed. 61 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, your friend's now call me a beer. Because I 62 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: told them that this was going to be brought up. 63 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: It didn't happen. I was gone for a while, tasting 64 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 4: great liquors in the basement, actually with my buddy. Everyone 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: assumed I was upstairs in the That's. 66 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: How the story came up. I'm sure I expected you 67 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: come with wet hair. 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: My man Sab and I were tasting my finest tequilas 69 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: and bourbons that don't come out enough. Anyways, there you 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: have it, moving on. I knew this was coming up 71 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: by the way, someone somebody tipped you off. That's no. 72 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 4: Well I came and sat down next to your wife 73 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: after hanging out with my buddy Sab for a while 74 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: and she's but I think, I guess was the first 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: she's heard of this. She's like, you're very cleanly and 76 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 4: I'm like, and she's like, it might come up early. 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: I think she's the one that let me know. Or 78 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: I walked in as you guys are chatting and not 79 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: hiding it. Well, yeah, she's gonna Yeah. 80 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Anyway, Steelers went twenty six eighteen. We got the folks 81 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: out of my house three forty five. 82 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: The Uber showed twenty five out of there. Yeah. 83 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we did pretty good, pretty good work. 84 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: I was sleeping well before that. 85 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 86 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 4: But he's nice seeing you and Rob. We'll talk to 87 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: him soon. 88 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 89 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's the biggest story of the day though. 90 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 5: No. 91 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: Steelers went twenty six to eighteen over the New York 92 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Giants get to six and two going into the bye week. 93 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: The offense again. 94 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Four hunit and twenty I think ended up being four 95 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: unitre and twenty six yards because they took a knee 96 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: on the final play, scored points on five of the 97 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: nine meaningful possessions in the game. I think they only 98 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: punted three times in the game, so. 99 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: I think so. 100 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Red zone offense was oh for four. But 101 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: you had two touchdowns that were wiped out called touchdowns, 102 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: and then one was negated by a penalty. The other 103 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: one was negated by the Giants had won. Well, strangeness 104 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 2: of the rule. 105 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: That so in the last month, and one of them 106 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: was in the last twenty four hours. I didn't know 107 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: that the Steelers couldn't trade for Deontay Johnson. Again, strange 108 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: little loophole in the NFL, and I didn't know that. 109 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: Well, that one makes sense. 110 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: So because that one adds up, I'd never never given 111 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: any thought. It's never come up in my life before, 112 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: or one that I could remember. But two right feet 113 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: or two left feet doesn't equal a right foot in 114 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 4: a left foot. Yes, that makes me Their butt equals 115 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: two feet, and the equals your elbow equals to your 116 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: head equals two feet. John Madden wrote a book and 117 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: one two fe feet bring the same foot do not 118 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: equal two feet. So conceivably, you could throw a swing 119 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: pass the nausey hairs on the sidelines. He could put 120 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: one leg behind his head and bounce down the sideline 121 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: until somebody knocked him out of bounds and it wouldn't 122 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: be a cat, it wouldn't be a catch. That's nuts 123 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: to me. That's definitely a loophole. I bet that could 124 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: changed this offseason. Like, how often does that happen? 125 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't happen often. It was a weird play and 126 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: you have. 127 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 4: To be a ridiculous athlete to make that happen too, 128 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: which he is, you know. 129 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: But if if my elbow equals two feet, then my 130 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: same foot twice should equal two feet. 131 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: Yes, And I was on a fantasy podcast this morning, 132 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: and this won't shock you or probably any of our listeners. 133 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 4: No one. And it's not even close. It's this wide. 134 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 4: I know, are you two people can? 135 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: He has his arms spread really well right right right? 136 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 4: Has had more Fantasy points taken away from penalties and 137 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: things of that nature. Oh yeah, than Pickens. 138 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: Think about We're talking about. 139 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: This on the pregame show yesterday with Tim Bensla. The 140 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: play was a Thursday Night's third No, I'm sorry your 141 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: Sunday night's game Dallas in San Francisco. Ok, the touchdown pass, 142 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: I believe it went to Kittle to the to the 143 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: right flat short one, yeah, short one. The receiver just 144 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: comes right in and blasts into the into the defensive bow. 145 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, the pick play right, And they asked 146 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: Trey McCauley about it, and he says, oh no, that's 147 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: that's because it wasn't called. And McCauley says, oh no, 148 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: that that's that's perfectly fine. And collins Worth, to his credit, goes, if. 149 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: That's going to be legal, look out it. 150 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: Get get used to it. 151 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: That was far, far, far greater than what Alan Robinson did, 152 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: and that negated the touchdown pass the Pickens. 153 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: Caught earlier this season. 154 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: It was a nice but who was not Ellen Robinson, right, 155 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: Van Jefferson Jefferson, Yeah, Van Jefferson, Yeah. 156 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: Not to mention all the DPIs on like certain and 157 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: sauce and great corners too. So his production it is 158 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: probably double what his stat line is, ye know, in 159 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: terms of what he's produced to the team. 160 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: And it all matters for the team except for the touchdown. 161 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: So it didn't take it coming back and you go 162 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 4: backwards instead of getting a touchdown. 163 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: Think about where that at that game's thirty four to 164 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: what fifty or thirty four to uh uh nine? If 165 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: both of those before before the Giants come. 166 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: Back and score. 167 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: I will say, if I were not running the football 168 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: at that point, if it's thirty four to nine, no doubt. 169 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: But the Giants had one that they should be complaining 170 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: about too in the. 171 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: Letter of the law. 172 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: That should have come back the THEO Johnson one where 173 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: he was just wide open. But that was a little. 174 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: They showed it this morning. I saw the replay of 175 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: it this morning. 176 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: You get away that more often than all. The problem 177 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: was is he ran to the he ran over to 178 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: the other side of the field. He was on the 179 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: wrong side of the field, and so he was running back, 180 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: jogging back to the other side of the field. 181 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: And again this. 182 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: Is when we talk about things that a veteran quarterback does. 183 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: I was gonna go there too, the pre snap offensive penalty. 184 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: So many and some of you listeners had something to 185 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 4: do with that too, proud noise of course. 186 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 2: But he never got set. I mean it was never 187 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: He just jogged into and. 188 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: Never set himself. 189 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: So I get it. 190 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: The two point conversion play. 191 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: Oh, first of all is the most ridiculous attempt at 192 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: to play. 193 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: I just line up and go for it. If you're 194 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: going to go for. 195 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: It, it's right there with the Bears handing a guard, yeah, 196 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 4: the ball when they're trying to take the lead. 197 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: Secondly, I still the math. To me, I don't care 198 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: what they say. 199 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense it because over like the last 200 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: four years, two point conversions are converting it like a 201 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: forty seven or forty six percent rate. 202 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 4: So it's under fifty. 203 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: It's under fifty. It's not a fifty to fifty proposition. 204 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like if I get this one, I 205 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: flipped the coin. 206 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: So now you're down eight points instead of being down seven, okay, 207 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: or you know. And then finally the guys that he 208 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: had out there are all still looking at him. Well 209 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: that's the thing. 210 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 4: Just see if and. 211 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: He calls for the ball and has it snapped and 212 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: Alex Highsmith, you only want to react to it. 213 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 4: So he's just walking between trees and making us make 214 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: the tackle, right because the quarterback didn't wait for them 215 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: to get said on this, on this the Watt strip sack. 216 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 2: Yes that someone was supposed to flow j Watt and 217 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: Alex Highsmith, especially on third downs, have been flip flopping 218 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: on pretty badly. In this game. It wasn't all the time, 219 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: but it was pretty regularly. And instead of motioning his 220 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: tight end over to Watts side where they wanted him 221 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: and where the right tackle thought he was going. 222 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: To have help, they know, Jones snapped the. 223 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: Football immediatem like that's the play you're going to not 224 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 4: double Watt? Yeah, you know, sack, strip, recover, boom, forget 225 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: about it. You know he's a quarterback issues absolutely, And 226 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: again that's not a knock on fields, but it's the 227 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 4: difference between fields Jones and Russ. 228 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: Right, you know, I mean it really is just having 229 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: a guy who knows Yeah, you would know. He just 230 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: knows how to operate it. He's been around long enough. 231 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Just like I don't do that right right. 232 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: Like that crazy two point conversion, I see the argument 233 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: of going for two. 234 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm not really in favor of it. I could see the. 235 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: Argument during the week of We're going to try this 236 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: crazy play that no one's ever seen before. 237 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: We catch them all in the hands of our best guy, 238 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: right with a bunch of blockers in front of him. 239 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 4: He should be able to get two yards. But the 240 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 4: execution is the worst point. I mean, the execution is laughable. 241 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: I mean it's like, what was that like Patriot Indianapolis 242 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 4: game or I forget what it was. 243 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: Patriots Colts and they lined on two guards everybody else elsewhere, 244 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 2: and then these guys just destroyed the quarterback and he's 245 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: understanding the guy's under center. That's all they gotta do 246 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: is take two steps and they're on top of him. 247 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: Pressure right Like during the week, you got to get 248 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: pretty creative, you think to put your stamp of approval. 249 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: I can at least go in the shotgun in that situation. 250 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: But so a lot of prosceidural issues in the back 251 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 4: football without having any count. 252 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: By the way, there's no there's no three count. You 253 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: just like snapped the ball and grab. That's why you 254 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: have exactly. 255 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 4: That's why Smith had to be more shocked than anybody, 256 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: like none of you lock me anyway. The game to me, well, 257 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 4: I would say the game was closer than should have been. 258 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 4: I don't know if I believe that or not. I mean, 259 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: some of a lot of those things were didn't go 260 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: great in terms of where the points could have went. 261 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 4: But there's a case for all of them Steelers run. 262 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: Defense wasn't great, and defense. 263 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: It was bad. 264 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 3: The defense should not have a great night. 265 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 4: No. I mean they made big plays Beanie and the 266 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 4: edge guys, but I thought, I don't want to start 267 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: with the negatives. But I felt like after the game, 268 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: I was worried about defense more than I am now 269 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 4: because I think when I was trying to get in 270 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: their heads all day, what did they fear about the 271 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: Giants offense? I think neighbors getting over the top. That's 272 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 4: never allowed. 273 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: Minka was definitely shading him the entire game. 274 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: They knew he was gonna get catches. Yeah he's awesome, 275 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: but don't let him get the eighty yarder, you know. 276 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 4: And I think Porter or Jackson was off a lot, 277 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: you know, like we'll give you the seven yard or 278 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: if you Nicol and Diamus and Jones complete him, I 279 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: can live with myself in the morning. And I think 280 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: the other thing is they don't want Jones to run, 281 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 4: you know. I mean the game they have a game 282 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 4: plan against day Ball with Allen and Jones is a 283 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: pretty effective runner, and he ended up with one rushing 284 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: yard on three attempts. You know, so I think they 285 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: lamar Jackson them to some degree that if the back's 286 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: going to beat us. 287 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: Well, we talked about that part of it last week. 288 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: That he had almost as many carries as their running backs, yes, 289 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: right to both of them, right like he was, you know, 290 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: over one hundred or over fifty carries already this year. 291 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 4: And I frankly think they underestimated Tracy. He's pretty darn good. Yeah, 292 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: and he's going to be pretty darn good. Yeah. 293 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: Now, you know, for neighbors, it was seven catches on 294 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: thirteen targets for seventy one yards. You can live with that. 295 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Friday would take that one hundred years and 296 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: I'll say this would be one forty though. 297 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave up nine points in the first half. 298 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: Going into the fourth quarter, the Giants I believe had 299 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 2: about two hundred and thirty total yards of offense, even 300 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: though they were moving the ball and running it pretty well. 301 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't a crazy number. And then the 302 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: fourth quarter was kind of okay, we're up. Now you're up. 303 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: You know, more than two scores pretty much the entire 304 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: fourth quarter in the pass rushers of tea and off Yeah, 305 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: into that neighborhood, you know, but when you didn't get there, 306 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: some guys were left on an island. And the Steelers 307 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 2: blitzed more last night than that I didn't understand. 308 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: Or approve of at the time. Like my halftime notes, 309 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, why so much blitz? You should be able 310 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: to get home. So I'm talking about both ends of 311 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: my mouth, because the last couple of weeks I've complained 312 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: that they've been a little too vanilla four drop seven 313 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: cover three zone. Okay, you know that's my checkers are 314 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 4: better than yours type coaching. Okay, I get that you 315 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: have really good checkers, you know. I mean, you have 316 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 4: great checkers. But I'm looking at that game going that 317 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: protection is so bad, you know, you should be able 318 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: to win without it, and there's too much to lose 319 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 4: if he beats the blitz, and he was pretty good 320 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: about beating the blitz. You know, I do think I'd 321 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: have to look at his overall blitz maybe the best. 322 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: The blitz are horrible, I'm almost certain they are. I'd 323 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 4: have to double check, but I've heard that one hundred 324 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 4: times and I just didn't double check. So I get 325 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 4: that Part two. And sometimes guys make plays you know 326 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 4: what I mean. But I was thinking why so I 327 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 4: was on my halftime not it's like, why so much blitz? 328 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: Just let your pass rushers rush the passer. Yeah. So 329 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: you know, Also a high percentage of the of the 330 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: rushing yardage came between the tackles. 331 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: Very high again, and a lot of it was against 332 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: I knew that was what you're gonna say. A lot 333 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: of interesting and presumably that I know Beanie Bishop is 334 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: a great story right now. And three interceptions in the 335 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: last two games fantastic. But I want to see what 336 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: it looks like with Camp Sutton out there. 337 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: Agreed, and part of its run defense, part of it's 338 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: getting bent and off the field, part of its Queen 339 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: and Wilson aren't hammers against the run. I mean the 340 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: nuts and bolts of it are. So I was just 341 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: doing this in the in the lobby a minute ago. 342 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 4: They're seeing the sixth highest percentage of eleven and people 343 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: are running on them. Yeah, and they're seeing a high 344 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: percentage of run between the tackles really high last night, 345 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: and they're seeing a really high percentage of eleven. So 346 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: for five years I've been talking about, man, they need 347 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: to be a nickel more. They can't do nickel, but 348 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: they're finding weaknesses in the nickel that those two linebackers 349 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: aren't hammers against guards and fullbacks and centers. And Benton's 350 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: on the game too. 351 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: What I want to see is when Sutton comes back. 352 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're un if you're and if you remember 353 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: back to training camp, a lot of times they were 354 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: playing him at safety too. 355 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and so I do one more card, one more Yeah. 356 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: I wonder if you start to mix those guys up 357 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: a little bit and say, Okay, we're gonna let de 358 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: Sean Elliott, who's great against the run. 359 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had like one or two bad plays in 360 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: this one too, uncharacteristically. 361 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: Let him get up in the box more in the nickel. 362 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I see, you're saying, have him the guy of 363 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, dude and sutting off? 364 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, or interchange them or interchangeable. You don't know who's 365 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: going to be where. Yeah, you know the huddle? Yeah, interesting, 366 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah that ring. Yeah. 367 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: So we're not even suggesting that Robert should be in 368 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: the nickel or anything, but he would. But he's in 369 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: the game that people. 370 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: Don't run the ball very well. 371 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: He's a hammer. 372 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've noticed that part. 373 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love Kean Ubenton. I'm this is like the 374 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: negative hour. I don't mean to be this way because 375 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: they just had a good win. They're six and two 376 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: in their first place. I love Kean Ubenton, but he 377 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: might be more Cam Hayward. I think they might be 378 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 4: a nose, you know what I mean, like an off season. 379 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: Like I'm not saying Casey Hampton or a three hundred 380 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 4: and eighty pound slug, but they might need to find 381 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: a nose and make him an end, you know. Yeah. 382 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: I had the same thought when I'm looking through some 383 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: of the draft stuff doing a little early prepp watching 384 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: games like the Kentucky Kid and a lot of them. 385 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: A lot of the body types in this year's draft 386 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: are more nose type than they are true Steel's three 387 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: four defensive end types, right, And I think I thought, 388 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, maybe you just draft a true nose 389 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: tackle and let. 390 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: Him get upfield. Yeah he takes over for Orogan Jobi 391 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: or you know everyone moves down or wrung you know, yeah, 392 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: I think that's the move That would be what I 393 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: would do as well, or sign one yeah whatever, you know, 394 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 4: offensively pre nice to have Adams Yeah, offensively, I thought 395 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: the Steelers took some strides, Yes, particularly involving the other 396 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: receivers not named Georgia Pickins clearly, I mean Pickens and 397 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: Nausey to me started the drink. I mean, those two 398 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: are playing at. 399 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: A really high level. 400 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: We can get to the quarterback for sure, obviously, but 401 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: the other guys are stepping up. And you said this 402 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 4: for two or three weeks, you expected the Jefferson's and 403 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: Austin's and maybe not Washington, but Washington's certainly has. 404 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: Of all bets, been kind of the biggest surprise. 405 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think they adore him by the way 406 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: he never leaves the field. They're all becoming more and 407 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: more productive, looking like starting type players. It's promising, you know. 408 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would still be on the lookout for a slot. 409 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 2: That's what That's what I want now, is a true slot. 410 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: I've been in the market for anything. I wouldn't mind 411 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: if Slayton didn't leave Pittsburgh. 412 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't mind that at all. 413 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: But I say a slot because they also put Roman 414 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 2: Wilson yesterday on IR so he's out at least the 415 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: next four weeks and even when he comes back after 416 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: being out four weeks. 417 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: What are you going to get from him as a rookie? 418 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 4: Is he allowed to practice? No? Went on ir at all? Okay, 419 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: you can't do anything, right, Yeah, I should know. 420 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: That he can be in the building, he can go 421 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: to meetings. But he's already been doing all that stuff 422 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: and hasn't been able to get. 423 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: On the field, right, So, I mean before you know 424 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 4: seas right, yeah, right, So. 425 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: I'm expecting nothing out of him this year. 426 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: I would be in the market for I mean, Scottie 427 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Miller has been a great stories. 428 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: And he can be on my football team. I'll have 429 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: him there. 430 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: But I would like to get somebody who is a 431 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: true move the chain slot type guy Myers. Myers would 432 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: be great, yeah, Adam Feeling would would fit that. 433 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 4: Bill Cheapest could be yeah yeah no, but. 434 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: Even as I mentioned last week, Tyler Boyd would fit 435 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: that bill Cheapest could be too. 436 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. No. I'd be interested in Slayton though, too. 437 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: I mean, if you get that never that changes everything 438 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 2: because Van Jefferson. 439 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: Complain, Jefferson's my slot, or you can Pickens could do 440 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: some here and there. You know, Friar Moves could be 441 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: some slot to you know, but burying the lead here. 442 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 4: The offense is really good. 443 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: The offense has been really good the last two weeks. 444 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: Quarterback has been really good. Yeah, and it's a noticeable difference. 445 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 4: And it's not a we told. 446 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: You so, it's just reality. 447 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 4: Flackovers Richardson not as drastic. But I mean, like just 448 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: some of those older dudes, they don't they get you 449 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: out of bad plays. 450 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: They know to when and where to attack with the football. 451 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: They know where to go with the football exactly. 452 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: They know you know where the Yeah. 453 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 4: If you run the plays as it's harder than people think, 454 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: but you can be pretty unproductive. 455 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: Arthur Smith looks a lot smarter now than he did 456 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: five weeks ago, or with. 457 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 4: The Falcons, with those JABBRONI yeah, Arthur Smith would have 458 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: killed from Russell Wilson in Atlanta. They did the worst 459 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the league, adoring his. 460 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 3: We've seen it. They have great skill position. 461 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 4: Guys, my favorite Cousins. Again, I've made the joke like 462 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: you're gonna go get Cousins and Mooney the year after 463 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: I left a lot. 464 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: It's like the Justin Fields conversation. Now you go trade 465 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: for all. 466 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: These receivers, now, yeah, I wouldn't mind you those guys either, 467 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: you know, right. 468 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: And I honestly think if you saw Russell Wilson and 469 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: Justin Fields sitting on the bench yesterday together, they have 470 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: a fantastic relationship. And I think Fields is going to 471 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: learn so much from watching Russell Wilson play. It's the 472 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: same reason why Anthony Richardson is getting benched right now 473 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis. 474 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: Hey, go watch Joe do this and and just. 475 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: Hit this basic route combination. Yeah, you know where to 476 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: go with the football. I mean he's thinking too much 477 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 4: and double clutch and it's brutal awful. Yeah. 478 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: I mean sometimes, you know, with these young quarterbacks need 479 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 2: to take that step back and cause you get you 480 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: don't have time when you're playing every week to analyze yourself. Yeah, 481 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: because all you're doing is preparing for the next opponent. 482 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: There's only so many hours in the week, and you 483 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: have to study film and you have to know all 484 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: the checks and you have to know everything else. 485 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 4: The time to coach up second and third stringers and 486 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: bring them along side. That's just not how the world works, 487 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 4: and who knows, but like Richardson and Bryce Young, taking 488 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: a step back might be the best thing that ever 489 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: happened to them, you know, I mean who knows. Yeah, 490 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: I'm not said predicting that, but it doesn't look good 491 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 4: for you to want at the moment. 492 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: But three straight games with the one hundred yard rusher, 493 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty seven rushing yards and your quarterback 494 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: is only giving you only give you seven of those. 495 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: They got one hundred and sixty rushing yards out of 496 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 2: traditional runs. Yeah yeah yahding the ball to running back 497 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: and they threw for two hundred and seventy eight yards 498 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: against the Giants defense. I don't think we gave the 499 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: Giants defense enough credit and kudos going into the game. Like, statistically, 500 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: I tried, it's good, and I was wondering about that 501 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: as I watched him rip down the field on the 502 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: opening drive, I'm like, oh, maybe this run defense is bad. 503 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: It got better as the game went on. 504 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeh. We all knew they could rush the passer. Yeah, 505 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: but as a defense, it's not as bad as we thought, no, 506 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: or as many thought. All the Giants stink their defense, 507 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 4: is there? Yeah? 508 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: That being said, the Steelers did average five point four 509 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: yards per carry, which was right on New York's average. 510 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll take it, and boy, they're ripping off so 511 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: many explosive plays, so many explosive runs, you know, the 512 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: deep balls. I mean the explosive play rates going up 513 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 4: like through the roof. 514 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's pretty astronomical. Yeah, we gotta get 515 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: to a break. We're gonna to do that right now. 516 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson Shower extraordinariy Dale Lollie, and this 517 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be 518 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 519 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 520 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 521 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 522 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lollie. 523 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and we're joined on the 524 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: Justin Miller Hotline. Bye, Rob King, Voice of the Steelers. 525 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: And but yeah, you like that we had we had 526 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 2: a name on something, are we. I mean, you can't 527 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: just have the hotline, you gotta have the Justin Miller 528 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: hot Line. And there you go, Time Ganger soon to 529 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: be soon to be published author. 530 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll talk about that in a couple of weeks. 531 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll let that. 532 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: We'll let that one sit out there too, and people 533 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: can try to figure this out. But King Steelers winning 534 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: last night twenty six to eighteen over the New York 535 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: Giants to get the six and two heading into the by, 536 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: and all is well, I guess in Steeler Land. 537 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, good enough, right, I mean, 538 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 6: you know, you were kind of hoping for a beat down, 539 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 6: a kind of a statement game. Maybe going into the break, 540 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 6: Steelers a little bit nicked up, you know. 541 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 5: And again, guys, we talked about this. 542 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 6: All week, and I saw you on Thursday, and then 543 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 6: you know, my view of the Giants changed a little 544 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 6: bit by the time I got to Monday night. 545 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 5: You know, I try to watch a game a day 546 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 5: of the. 547 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 6: Opponent, and the first couple of weeks, the Giants running 548 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 6: game didn't look really good at all with singletary and 549 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 6: you know, new offensive line, and even with not looking good, 550 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 6: you know, there were a couple plays away from being 551 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 6: in the Vikings game. They they should have beat the Commanders, 552 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 6: would have beat the Commanders. 553 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 5: They had a kicker. By the way, Malik Neighbors had 554 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 5: a key drop of that came. He had three. 555 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 6: He's had three key drops, including one last night. As 556 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: great as he's looks. 557 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: Like he's going to be. 558 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 6: I'm sure he's got some some balls he would like 559 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 6: to have thrown to him again to have a chance 560 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 6: to make a catch. But you know, it was another 561 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 6: game in which, as many games are in the NFL, 562 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 6: you know, the students made the plays they needed to make, 563 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 6: got the job done, and got out of the stadium 564 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 6: with a w. 565 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 4: So Steelers are taking this special seam thing to a 566 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: new level. I mean, it's kind of astronomical that almost 567 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: every week and the streak of a huge play on 568 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: teams sways the game and there's like no miskicks or 569 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 4: bad punts, Like, what is going on here? 570 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy. 571 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you've got Chris Boswell and we should 572 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 6: never take him for granted because he's. 573 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 5: Just so great, you know. 574 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 6: I mean, he's had one miss this year and it 575 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 6: was a sixty two yarder at home that he pushed 576 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 6: to the. 577 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 5: Right, his only miss of the year. 578 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 6: He's the most accurate kicker, I believe in NFL history, 579 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 6: fifty plus yards. 580 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 5: He's just a remarkable weapon. 581 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 6: And again when you talk about you know, we talked 582 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 6: about this all. 583 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: The way back in camp, and this notion of winning 584 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: into margins because the students have had to have I 585 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 5: believe that's your you know, one of the phrases you've used, Matt. 586 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 5: The studers have had so many close games over the 587 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 5: last couple of years. 588 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin has maneuvered the team into positions to win games, 589 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 6: you know, and and that they've had to do that 590 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 6: in close fashion because of defense and then the contributions 591 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 6: from Chris bos One others. 592 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: And they clearly made an attempt to upgrade that. 593 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 6: They went out and got cord Aero Patterson, they got 594 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 6: Cam Johnson, who's a phenomenal punter. Of course, Johnson got hurt. 595 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: Cordero has been hurt and hasn't been a fact. And 596 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 6: the kickoff game because kicked him. Why would you The 597 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 6: guys got nine touchdown returns in most of the NFL 598 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 6: history on kickoff. So it is something they take very 599 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 6: seriously by their actions, and you know, they talk about 600 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 6: it and and and you know it isn't just talk. 601 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 6: They put their check book on the line, They put 602 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 6: their time in practice on the line, and it showed 603 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 6: up in the games and instead of you know, being 604 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 6: something in the margins, it's been an important factor. 605 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 5: In them winning the last four weeks. 606 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and King, I thought it was. 607 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 2: You know, as Mike Tomlin likes to say, there are 608 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: no such thing as style points in the NFL. 609 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: Either win or you lose. 610 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: Just ask the Baltimore Ravens who dropped one on Sunday 611 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: to the Cleveland Browns. Or I mean to me right now, 612 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: and I know that we've seen some moves here and there, 613 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: and Deontay Johnson gets traded to the Ravens. Deontay Johnson 614 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: getting traded to the Ravens doesn't fix Baltimore's pass defense, 615 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: which is atrocious. Bolt, you know, some of the moves 616 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: that have been made don't fix these teams. So, being 617 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: in first place in the AFC North right now, and 618 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: nothing is going to change that, by the way, next weekend, 619 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: even if the Rabies win next weekend, the Steelers are 620 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: still the first place team in the AFC North. You've 621 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: put yourself in a position now heading down the stretch 622 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 2: here that if you can win you know the you know, 623 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: not the majority of these games. If you can get five, 624 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: you go five and four down the stretch. 625 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 4: That's much to ask, that's very possible. 626 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: Eleven wins a gets you into the playoffs and b 627 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: might win you to Division. I mean Baltimore has already 628 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: lost to Cleveland and to the Raiders at home. 629 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 6: Well, I think, guys, when we looked at this team 630 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 6: in the offseason and we kept talking about it, and 631 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 6: I think the addition of Cam Sutton, you know, we 632 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 6: thought maybe and the trade for Dante Jackson, so you 633 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 6: needed to get some help in the secondary. And you 634 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 6: know the after move with the secondary you were. You know, 635 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 6: the perception is your weak at wide receiver. You need 636 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 6: to adam of their body there and they haven't been 637 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 6: able to do that yet. It sounds like they've been 638 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 6: trying to do that from all the rumors we've heard 639 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 6: locally and nationally, So it tells you that they may 640 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 6: perceive the issue to be the same. But your point 641 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 6: is a good one, Dale that you know, look, most 642 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 6: teams have a weakness somewhere, and you know, getting secondary 643 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 6: help for the Ravens that might be. 644 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 5: Difficult at this time. So what do you try to do? 645 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 6: Maybe you go get you to shore up another weakness 646 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 6: and hope that maybe you outscore a team if you 647 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 6: have to. So you know, every team is trying to 648 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 6: deal with their own shortcomings. But we talked about this 649 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 6: guys that there aren't you know, if this team is healthy, 650 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 6: and again they they've already been hit with injuries along 651 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 6: the offensive line. But this is why we were impressed 652 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 6: by the offensive line because of the depth and m 653 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 6: colum has come in and done a nice job, and 654 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 6: you know that adds to your depth. Now with Zach 655 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 6: Frazer coming back, depth that you feel good about. No 656 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 6: team is going to be really deep and really good 657 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 6: at every position, but boy, the Steelers with the exception 658 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 6: maybe you know, again from the perceptions the wide receiver position, 659 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 6: maybe the reality to wide receiver position, especially if you 660 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 6: believe the rumors that the Steelers are seeking wide receiver help, 661 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 6: their depth everywhere else is is really pretty darn good. 662 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 6: I mean it's hard to have, you know, five good corners, 663 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 6: we understand that, but the Steelers have depth everywhere and 664 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: they're gonna get some of these guys back. And so 665 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 6: you're gonna go into the teeth of this schedule with 666 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson now having played a couple of games, knock 667 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 6: some of the rust off. Oh yeah, provided four hunderd 668 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 6: yards of offense, which used to be you know, like 669 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 6: seeing a Dodo bird around here, fifty eight straight games 670 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 6: without getting there, and now you've got a two straight 671 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 6: weeks to them at the quarterback, So at the quarterback position. 672 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: So there's just a lot to like right now about 673 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 6: this team and every team, every single team has got 674 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 6: their blemishes, and we as fans, it's like looking in 675 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 6: the mirror. You know, when you look in the mirror, 676 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 6: you're closer that object, is closer than an a peer 677 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 6: to others. So you're always gonna see the worst thing, 678 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 6: the worst blemishes. Well that that's the nature of fandom, 679 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 6: and that's the nature of us. 680 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 5: You know, concentrating on one team. 681 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 6: But every team has flaws, every single team, and it 682 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 6: just doesn't feel to me like the Steelers have that 683 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 6: many flaws right now. It's uh, you know, it's I 684 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 6: think it's it's a good feeling going into this buy, 685 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 6: especially knowing you're gonna get some healthy bodies back. 686 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: On the other end, I mean, just on paper in 687 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: terms of like guys coming back, where you're at in 688 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: the conference record, where you know, going into a buy, 689 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: there aren't many teams in better shape, you know, play 690 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: I agree, you know, point differential to back things up 691 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 4: like that, But one of the most impressive things, and 692 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: you kind of touched on it is they really weathered 693 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: the offensive line injury storm quite well. 694 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 5: Well. They had such enviable depth to begin with. Me. 695 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, we're we're up in camp thinking, hey, 696 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 6: you know, look, if there's not injuries, I don't know 697 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 6: who's on the team, who's on the practice. I mean 698 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 6: I'm out there looking at you know, I don't know 699 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 6: where Ryan McCollum would have been. I don't know where 700 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 6: Dylan Cook would have been. I'm looking at those guys thinking, man. 701 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 5: They look like they look like NFL caliber players, you know, 702 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 5: and they. 703 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 4: Might trade her Big or Dan Moore or something, you know, 704 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 4: right early in camp, right. 705 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, And this is why, uh, this is why you 706 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 6: hoard those things, because injuries can happen, and the depths 707 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 6: has been has really shown through, especially on the offensive line. 708 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: I mean most teams, uh, most teams can't handle that. 709 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, look, the Giants get Andrew Thomas hurt, 710 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 6: and not that he's been spectacular for him, but he's 711 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 6: clearly their best offensive best offensive tackle. 712 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 5: Let's put it that way. Those guys in the middle 713 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 5: where this guard you're you know, can be solid, but 714 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 5: then they give up eight sacks to the Eagles. 715 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 4: You know, we haven't a grab Hubbard off the street 716 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 4: and put them at left tackle. Yeah, not even a left. 717 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 5: Tackle, right. 718 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 719 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 6: His numbers weren't good there going into the game, and 720 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 6: they weren't good coming out of the game at the 721 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 6: left tackle position thanks to Alex Heismith. 722 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 5: But I just think that, you know, this is a 723 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 5: just such a solidly well built roster. 724 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 6: I mean, kudos to Omar Khan and the staff and 725 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: what they put together. You know, even the quarterback position. 726 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: Guys. 727 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 6: Look, you know a lot of teams might have gone 728 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 6: in and said, Okay, Russell Wilson's our starter. You know, 729 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 6: we'll take a flyer on an older guy at number 730 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 6: two or what have you, and then you know where 731 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 6: was where would this team have been without Justin Fields? 732 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 4: You know, I thought it was pretty bold to make 733 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: Fields the number three last night. You know, I'm like, wow, 734 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 4: that could come back to bite you. But they must 735 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: have some faith in Allen too. 736 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, well one for one, he's looked good so 737 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 6: far and he's a veteran guy that right you feel 738 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 6: allows your third you're feeling good, you know, Cordero Patterson 739 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 6: is your third running back. You're feeling good and it's 740 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 6: just a well calculated, well put together roster. Look, I 741 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 6: don't want to get overly giddy, because we all know 742 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 6: that they've got a tremendous amount of games, difficult games 743 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 6: coming up. But I love the way the team is trending. 744 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 6: You know, I think that Russell Wilson is just you know, 745 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 6: stepping in. You see why he's a nine time Pro 746 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 6: Bowl quarterback nine times. Guys, that's just that's not accidental 747 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 6: and there Yeah, yeah, you don't sweep that under the 748 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 6: rug and say, yeah, but I mean this guy, uh, 749 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 6: he is looked when we said it up in the trope. 750 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 6: He looked sharp in the troll when we saw him. 751 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 6: I keep going back to that word. That's the word 752 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 6: to me. I just I look everything sharp. 753 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: Let's go. It's I'm in command. I'm gonna change his play. 754 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 6: I'm looking over here, I'm throwing it over there. I'm 755 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 6: in and out of the huddle. Everything just looks sharp 756 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 6: with Russell Wilson and and so. And it's been a 757 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 6: team effort, you know, justin Field's leading the team to 758 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 6: four and two. Russell Wilson coming in now, Uh, you know, 759 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 6: her big getting hurt, and then it's Frasier and then 760 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 6: it's mc collum. Uh, you know Herbig goes down, high 761 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 6: Smith goes down Moon and have to step up. It 762 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 6: has just been uh, you know a lot of positions 763 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 6: on this team have been challenged depth wise, and they 764 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 6: here they are, They're in first place, They're six and two. 765 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 6: And yes, you need to get healthy, you want to 766 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 6: get healthy, and you know you want to be playing 767 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 6: your best football coming out of the buy. But I 768 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 6: think they have an opportunity to do that. I get 769 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 6: the sense we haven't really seen the best the series 770 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 6: have to offer yet. 771 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: And Rob, we were just kind of talking about the 772 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: veteran quarterback stuff. The difference is there between and you 773 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: saw I think a stark contrast in that yesterday between 774 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and Daniel Jones. The Giants are snapping the 775 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 2: ball when guys aren't set yet. The Giants are snapping 776 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: the ball when when players aren't supposed to be where 777 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: they're at, they don't have their blocking scheme set up, 778 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: they don't have their their line when they're trying to 779 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: run a two point conversion nobody's set and and you know, 780 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: the Steelers blow the play because those are quarterback things, right. 781 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and evidently the groops. 782 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 6: I mean I think I didn't hear the comments, but 783 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 6: was told that. 784 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 5: Dabile afterwards said, look. 785 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: They were supposed to have help there. When they had, 786 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: they didn't get it moved over right. 787 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 6: You're supposed supposed to move the tight end over there. 788 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 6: And that's the kind of stuff that Russell Wilson. Look, 789 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 6: he's been there and done that, man, I mean, you know, 790 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 6: and it's not just like been there, done that, like 791 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 6: you know, we were. 792 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 5: Talking about Earl Morale. 793 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 6: G it's you know, a thirty eight year old Earl 794 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 6: Morale who knows a few tricks and you know, you know, 795 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 6: rotating the shoulder and trying to loosen it up. This 796 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 6: is the guy that has been to, like I said, 797 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 6: nine Pro Bowls and still looks good. In Russell Wilson 798 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 6: can make those moves. It's a good combination of a 799 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 6: guy who looks like he's still got He can hit 800 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 6: the he can hit the gas pedal and rev it 801 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 6: up as high as he's been able to, and then. 802 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 5: He also has that knowledge at the same time, so 803 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 5: you're right. 804 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 6: I mean, those are those are good examples of some 805 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 6: issues that really hurt the Giants class night. And again 806 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 6: you talk about little things. Look, man, it was a 807 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 6: one score game, and therefore, by definition little things or 808 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 6: what can certainly tilt the balance one way to the other. 809 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 6: We love the big plays, but a lot of little things. 810 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 6: I mean, first and twenty that's hard to overcome for 811 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 6: an offense. 812 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 5: So you're right, I mean that those. 813 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 6: Are great examples of the of the things that Steelers 814 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 6: are doing well. And also, I think we talked about this, guys, 815 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 6: but you know, when you think about how you know, 816 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 6: you get a formula right, just add water and something expands. Well, 817 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 6: you think about like the Mike Tomlin approach, what it's 818 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 6: been the last couple of years, and what he's had 819 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 6: to what he's had to do, which is manufacture something 820 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 6: out of the quarterback position that doesn't turn the ball over, 821 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 6: plays in such a way that the defense is in 822 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 6: a position. 823 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 5: To win you games. Not gonna say, well, now you add. 824 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson, who historically doesn't turn the ball over just 825 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 6: like you've had. Just add water and look what you've 826 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 6: got four hundred yards of offense and you're averaging thirty 827 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 6: points a game, and you know it's it is a 828 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,280 Speaker 6: guy that very very good fit for what the Steelers 829 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 6: have valued, certainly over the last couple of years under head. 830 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 5: Coach Mike Tomlins. 831 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 2: Our guest has been Rob King the voice of the 832 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers and Kinger. Enjoy the rest of your bye week. 833 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: We don't do this matchup show this week. 834 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna miss you guys. 835 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: How about that we could we could do match up. 836 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 2: We can match up the bye I'm doing a stat 837 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: pack though. Yeah, yeah, Matt and I are doing all 838 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: our regular right. You just it's guys like you, the 839 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 2: big timers. They get to take the week off. 840 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 5: So I was. 841 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 6: Wondering if I'm gonna be sitting Am I gonna be 842 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 6: hunked over on my computer on Thursday waiting for match stats? 843 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 5: Now I know they'll bill alright, there you go. 844 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: There'll be a little more general no opponent, but you know, 845 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 4: half you know, halfway through the season, we've gotta break 846 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 4: things down. 847 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 5: I'm ready, there we go. 848 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 2: Our guest has been Rob King Kinger. We'll so we'll 849 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: talk to you soon. Uh he is Matt Williamson. I 850 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 2: am Dale Lelly. You're listening to the Drive here on 851 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back with 852 00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: more right after this. 853 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 854 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 855 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 856 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 857 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and this 858 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And of course 859 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: you can hear the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network 860 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,240 Speaker 2: at a number of different places. You can the Steelers 861 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: official mobile app. You can watch us on YouTube. We're 862 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: on every Monday through Friday from four to six pm. 863 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: And of course we weren't on yesterday because of the 864 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 2: Monday night game, but we will be on the rest 865 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: of the week. 866 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: Even though there's a bye. 867 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: We don't give up. We don't quit. No and all 868 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: next week five in a row. 869 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. I have to explore some mid 870 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 4: season stuff. 871 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: Too, stuff I get some guests, line up and other stuff. 872 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, we'll get through the week. We got 873 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: plenty to talk about. 874 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 2: Because we don't just talk Steelers, we talked the entire league. 875 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: I do a little more draft prep on bye weeks 876 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 4: things like that too, you know, big picture stuff. I 877 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 4: have been able to get to, you know, that kind 878 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 4: of thing. 879 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: So you mentioned, you know Darius Slayton. Yeah, it look 880 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 2: good of you segment, he did look good. Uh four 881 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: catches for one hundred and eight yards. He did have 882 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 2: a drop and make it blew him up on one 883 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 2: down the. 884 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 4: Side that play. 885 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the MAGA came flying from that out of nowhere. 886 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Play that was on a third down. Yeah, anyone thinking, No, 887 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 4: I don't think Maker's having a very good year. 888 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: And it's funny because the Giants in that game were 889 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 2: just five I was shocked when I looked at this 890 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: at the end of the game. They were only five 891 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: of fifteen on third downs. It felt like more like 892 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: more because they they hit some third and longs that 893 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: were like some backbreakers. 894 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, just when you thought you had him dead to 895 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 4: right and that. 896 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: Got them into some like field goal range for you know, 897 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 2: some for some things. 898 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 3: But you'll take five for fifteen. 899 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 4: You'll take five for fifteen, yeah, you know. 900 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: And you'll take giving up you know, less than twenty points, 901 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 2: like and you know T J. Watt was asked after 902 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: the game, you know, do you look at the yards 903 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 2: that you gave up. 904 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: Do you look at the you know, the points? 905 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: How do you? How do you? I just look at 906 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: and see if we won, what's the result. 907 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 4: That's a pretty good result, you know what I mean? Again, 908 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 4: they gain plan things not to lose the game, you know, like, 909 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 4: can't have Neighbors get us over the top? Can of 910 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 4: Jones rushing like crazy? Now they can't be happy with 911 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 4: how they defended Tracy. I mean, there's no question about that. 912 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 2: There was nobody in the lockerow was happy about that. 913 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 4: Right, But I mean, to be very honest, the trio 914 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 4: of Slayton, Robinson and Neighbors pretty good. I mean, it's 915 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 4: not the best receiving core in the league, but it's 916 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 4: better than a lot and Road Daniel Jones, for whatever reason, 917 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 4: has been much better than Home Daniel Jones. I bet 918 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,479 Speaker 4: the fans are easier on him, probably, but he hasn't 919 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 4: turn He hasn't turning well. 920 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: Now he's starting an interception on the rope. 921 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 2: That was his first road interception this year, his bro 922 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: The difference in passer rating was like forty points between 923 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: Home and Road. 924 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 4: They actually got their tight ends a little bit involved 925 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 4: too late. In the game and Theo Johnson. Yeah, you know, 926 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 4: but they don't do that much either. 927 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 3: No, they don't. 928 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 4: But that's a good offensive mine too. Here's the thing, 929 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 4: it's also a desperate team. 930 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 2: So the Jets go into New England on Sunday. They 931 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 2: outgained the Patriots by about one hundred yards. They didn't 932 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 2: eve give up two hundred and fifty yards of total 933 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 2: offense in the game, knock the quarterback out. 934 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 3: They didn't turn the ball over. 935 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 4: Jets didn't. 936 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: Jess never turned the ball over, and they lost. The 937 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 2: Jets fans, well, you know, our defense was played really well, 938 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 2: and we had two hundred and twenty four passing yards 939 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve rushing yards. We outgained them by 940 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: That was my argument last year when people were talking about, 941 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: you know, the Steelers hadn't outgained an opponent the entire 942 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: first half the season, despite a winning record. It's whether 943 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 2: you win or lose the game. I don't care about 944 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: the yards. Some of those yards last night and ended 945 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: up giving up three hundred and ninety four. Again, you 946 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: don't want to do that. But again, it was like 947 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty yards total yards going into the 948 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Yeah, and you had a double a multi 949 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: score lead most of the second of the fourth quarter, 950 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 2: Like you're up by more than one touchdown, they're gonna 951 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 2: get yards because you're gonna go into prevent a little bit. 952 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 4: We don't bring this up enough, and I don't quote 953 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 4: it very often, but there's a lot of the stat 954 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 4: nerds that are really interested, especially for like run pass 955 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 4: ratio in neutral situations when the game is an eight 956 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 4: point game one way or another. It's not a two 957 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 4: minute drill, it's not the end of the half. I mean, 958 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly even how they define what a 959 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 4: neutral situation is. But stats can get skewed really bad 960 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 4: by we're in pre event or you know, it's the 961 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: end of end of the half and we're gonna the 962 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 4: only thing that can hurt us is getting them in 963 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 4: field goal range, and so we're going to give up 964 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 4: a lot just not to do that, or can't give 965 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 4: up a touchdown, or somebody hits a hail mary, you know, 966 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 4: like the Bears stats or you know, the Commander stats 967 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 4: were good, but then you hit a hail Mary. Yeah, wow, 968 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 4: you know, now it's so much better. Right. There was 969 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 4: some of that last night but there was also some 970 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 4: poor rund there. 971 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: But you look at like to say, for example, the 972 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: third quarter when the Steelers took control of the game, Well, 973 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: the Giants had four yards of offense. 974 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, their third quarter numbers are off sanded the Steelers, 975 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 4: I mean the Steelers. Yeah. 976 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that's when you took control of 977 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: the football game. So okay, yeah, you gave up one 978 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 2: hundred and about one hundred and seventy yards of offense 979 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, but the Giants are in complete 980 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: catchup mode. Yeah, now you don't want to give up. 981 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: You know, the forty five yard touchdown run. 982 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: That was a killer. 983 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: That was a killer. You can't do this. 984 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 4: That was a poorly played defensive play, without question. 985 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 2: But if you're up, if I'm up multiple scores, and 986 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: you're even if you're kicking field goals in those situations, 987 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 2: I haven't had. 988 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 4: Clocks your enemy. Yeah, if you're running between the tackles 989 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 4: and kicking field goals, you're not going to catch me. 990 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 2: Especially as well as the offensive play. 991 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 4: Right. I was on a different show with Rob and 992 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 4: I just kind of threw it out there. I'm like, 993 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting this is going to be the case. 994 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 4: But in this game, the offense was better than the defense. 995 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 4: Well you know, okay, you're running the ball and you're 996 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 4: eating clock and you're kicking goals. Our offense is going 997 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 4: to bite back and stingy, because I mean, it wasn't 998 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 4: like that for three years around here or many years 999 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 4: around here. And here's the thing that trust on them 1000 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 4: to get you points when you need it. The Giants' 1001 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 4: longest drive of the game was fifty nine yards. Really 1002 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 4: fifty nine yards? Yeah? 1003 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Steelers had a fifty seventy yard drive, a 1004 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 2: sixty three yard drive, a sixty one yard drive, an 1005 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 2: eighty yard drive, and a sixty one yard drive. 1006 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 4: More sustainable. 1007 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 3: You were the much better offense in this game. 1008 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 4: Now, when Wilson fumbled, I kind of, oh uh oh, 1009 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 4: they might lose one that they really shouldn't. But to 1010 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 4: be very honest, and part of it's just my preconceived 1011 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 4: notion that Steelers just a lot better than the Giants 1012 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 4: before the even the game was kicked off, I never 1013 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 4: really thought the Steelers were in jeopardy. 1014 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 3: I didn't either. 1015 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 4: I was going to ask you, you know, you were 1016 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 4: in the stadium. It's a different feel and the big 1017 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 4: term you just used it is in control of the game. Yeah, 1018 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 4: I felt like that needle was leaning towards the Steelers 1019 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 4: for sixty minutes. Yeah you know what I mean. 1020 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, the way you move the ball, 1021 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: the difficulty the Giants had to hit some chunk plays 1022 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 2: that were kind of to keep their head above water. 1023 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, and then that's it. And like even 1024 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 4: the two touchdowns early they end up in field goals, 1025 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 4: Like it's nine to nine going in the half, but 1026 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 4: it's like, all right, one team has looked much better 1027 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 4: than the other, right, Like, even though the announcers were man, 1028 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 4: Giant should be thrilled that there's nine to nine to 1029 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 4: half because a lot of things went their way. Yeah, 1030 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 4: probably even out, but that's sometimes how you lose these 1031 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,759 Speaker 4: games too. But I like where the Steelers are sitting 1032 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 4: at halftime more than the Giants. 1033 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: And again, it's just doing the little things, you know, 1034 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 2: getting in and out of the huddle, getting everybody lined 1035 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 2: up correctly, not taking the penalties, and yeah, procedural penalties. 1036 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants were penalized eleven times in the game, 1037 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: only for sixty five yards, So that tells you there 1038 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: were a whole bunch of five. 1039 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 4: Years, a whole lot of little five yard false starts 1040 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 4: in fifteen, or you know, there's a ton of them. 1041 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 4: I mean, people were complaining there's too much flags in 1042 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 4: these games, you know, viewers. I get that, but if someone. 1043 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 2: Doesn't call those, you have to have to call it. 1044 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 4: Yea, And frankly, the NFL needs more practice time to 1045 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 4: iron some of these things out. I think that's the 1046 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 4: problem deep down. And too many young quarterbacks. But how 1047 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 4: does the ref not throw flags on pre snap procedural stuff? 1048 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 4: You have to. 1049 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was the one call that went against the 1050 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 2: Steelers where it wasn't Lawrence in the middle. They had 1051 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 2: a different nose tackle in and he he flinched and jumped. 1052 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 4: And he tapped him on the helmet. F Yeah. Yeah, 1053 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 4: it was a strange one. 1054 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: Because he and they called it on the Steelers. I'm like, 1055 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: you're not allowed to. You can't flinch and cause a 1056 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 2: guy to the false start. 1057 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 4: I don't know if you've watched a TV copy yet, 1058 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 4: but the ref experts said he never went to the neutrals. 1059 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 2: McCaulay is the worst referee expert because he always aboues 1060 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: with what the guy's called on the field no matter 1061 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: what it is. We just talked about it. He was 1062 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 2: on the on the broadcast, asked for. 1063 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 4: The uh, the one we talk about. 1064 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's an obvious offensive pass interference penalty. 1065 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: Oh no, that's not that's not bad. Yeah, that's egregious. 1066 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? A Yeah, you're right, because 1067 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 4: his point was he never entered the neutral zone. He flinched. 1068 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 4: Well that means he flinched and didn't go forward right 1069 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 4: and then which is tapped him on the helmet and 1070 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,839 Speaker 4: there wasn't smart, but I guess he wanted to stop. 1071 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 2: But you see teams the Ravens do that constantly if 1072 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 2: somebody flinches, and I've seen the Steelers called for it. 1073 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1074 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they flinch and all of a sudden they just 1075 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 2: reach out and and and they called it. 1076 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 4: Like they end to play. 1077 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1078 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously that's what McCollum was thinking. 1079 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 2: That's what he was trying to do, you know, because 1080 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 2: once you once that guy flinches and you start to 1081 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 2: you might as well reach out and touch him because 1082 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: they're gonna call something. 1083 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 4: They're gonna something. Yeah. That was a weird one too. Yeah, 1084 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of those weird little and. 1085 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 2: I've seen people complaining about not only the motion penalty 1086 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: that got the touchdown called back, but on the punt 1087 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 2: return for a touchdown. I've heard people make the argument 1088 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 2: that that should have been roughing the punter. He hit 1089 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: him so hard. I'm like, watch the play again. First 1090 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 2: of all, he gets blocked into him. 1091 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 4: They brought it up like after they came back from commercial. 1092 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets he got blocked into. 1093 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 4: Him, and there was contact, but it was it wasn't 1094 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 4: egregious contact. It didn't it wasn't dangerous, none. 1095 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 3: Of that stuff, right, It wasn't what happened to Cameron Johnston. 1096 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 4: Where it wasn't. 1097 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 2: He was never in danger at all. Remember that one 1098 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 2: didn't get called a penalty. Right, If you get blocked 1099 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 2: into the guy he get blocked into him, it's not 1100 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: a penalty. 1101 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 4: So I didn't think it was a particularly well officiated game. 1102 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 2: And there was some You have the high Smith's roughing 1103 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 2: the passer call that was I don't know why, too 1104 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 2: and Jones. Everything got knocked down on the play as usual. 1105 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: There were ten calls that they didn't call holding on 1106 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 4: their bookend tackles and et cetera, and not to the 1107 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 4: Steelers offensive lineman didn't. 1108 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 2: Get away with the whole Yeah, of course, absolutely know. 1109 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 4: But when when hold, when the pre snaps, it seems 1110 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 4: to happen more in primetime. You've brought that up. But 1111 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 4: when the pre snap stuff has to be called, I 1112 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 4: feel like things like holds and pis get less. 1113 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: Because they don't want to call. They don't want to 1114 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 2: call flag after flag after flag. 1115 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 4: And that hurts the Steelers because they have the best 1116 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 4: defensive line of the league. 1117 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, no, I agree. Let's get to a 1118 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 3: break that's going to do it. 1119 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 2: For our number one of the drive here on the 1120 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with 1121 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: our number two right after this