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Speaker 1: dented and scratched it, and then took off. The Sanitation

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Speaker 1: department says that truck driver is now in the disciplinary process.

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Speaker 1: I can't let his death go on vain. Sarah Terrell

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Speaker 1: wants to know why that garbage truck hit and then

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Speaker 1: rolled over her son in broad daylight, crushing him, she says,

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Speaker 1: to the point he was unrecognizable. The sanitation department says

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Speaker 1: it can't comment on the driver while there's an ongoing investigation.

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Speaker 1: Sarah plans to file a wrongful death claim against this

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Speaker 1: city in the coming days. Who's a human being and

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Speaker 1: no mother should have to bury their skids and nobody

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Speaker 1: should ever go through the pain that I'm going through. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to unpack here. From NBC four and

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Speaker 1: Joel Grover, uh look you're going to sleep under a

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Speaker 1: pile of blankets. You're gonna pass out in an alleyway,

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Speaker 1: which is a thoroughfare for trucks, and trucks are difficult

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Speaker 1: to maneuver. Are you kidding me? Are we now in

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Speaker 1: the age where wherever they go, these truck drivers are

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Speaker 1: gonna have to get out, inspect everything, push the blankets aside,

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Speaker 1: make sure there's nobody I mean, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: This is what tolerance gets you. Yeah, Mom is trying

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Speaker 1: to make it sound like you know the truck drivers responsible.

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Speaker 1: Your son's responsible. Uh, he's the one who chose to

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Speaker 1: lay out under blankets in the alleyway. And if you're

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Speaker 1: worried about him, then you should be making sure he

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Speaker 1: gets home every night. And think about it. That skateboarding

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Speaker 1: career that led to broken bones, that led to honestly,

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Speaker 1: look in our family, there's been some broken bones and

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Speaker 1: surgeries and opioids were prescribed a couple of times. You

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Speaker 1: have to be on that like a hawk, and you

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Speaker 1: could only take the opioids for a few days period,

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Speaker 1: and then after that you got to suck it up period.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because you if you take them for even

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Speaker 1: a week you'll start getting addicted and that that's the

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Speaker 1: way that works. And who knows, this guy probably got

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Speaker 1: to go off the street. He could have ventnel in

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Speaker 1: it make out even more dangerous and worse for you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you just can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 1: If skateboarding is not a life. If you go through

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Speaker 1: four injuries and now you're drug addicted and you don't

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Speaker 1: control the drug addiction, and then you let the guy

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Speaker 1: sleep in the alleyway, and now you're going to ruin this,

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Speaker 1: this truck driver's life, you know, I mean, I just,

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Speaker 1: I just really, you know, what taxpayers pay up is

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Speaker 1: what you want. The taxpayers have to pay. The truck

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Speaker 1: driver's life is going to be turned upside down. In

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Speaker 1: a normal civilized city, which we used to have, what

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Speaker 1: would happen is all these witnesses, all these neighbors would say, hey,

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Speaker 1: there's a guy sleeping in the street, or he's standing

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Speaker 1: in traffic, and the police would come and take him

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Speaker 1: away and they'd lock him in like some kind of

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Speaker 1: mental health clinic until they could figure out what to do.

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Speaker 1: That's what a normal intelligent society would do. That's what

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Speaker 1: compassion is. You take the guy off the street by force,

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Speaker 1: and then you put him in a mental health clinic

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Speaker 1: and see what you could do for treatment. But in

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Speaker 1: this city, under Garcetti and now under Karen Bass, the

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Speaker 1: police don't show up to do anything productive, and then

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Speaker 1: everybody else is going to get sued and blame. That

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Speaker 1: is bs Coming up after three o'clock, we're going to

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Speaker 1: be talking about the Michigan State University campus shooting. Johnny

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Speaker 1: Ken KFIAM six forty Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app. All right,

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Speaker 1: there was a shooting that unfolded last night on the

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Speaker 1: campus of Michigan State University. We will get the details

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Speaker 1: from Alex Stone after the news at two three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: And of course what I heard immediately this morning ef

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Speaker 1: anyone's looking for motive? What is the monus the reasons

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Speaker 1: for this horrible shooting? Well, what is this motive? Obsession?

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Speaker 1: Why is that the first question? People want to understand

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Speaker 1: why this could happen? What happened to a person to

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Speaker 1: do this? Is that true? Nobody says that. Everyone just

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Speaker 1: assumes it's everybody I know just assumes it's another lunatic

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Speaker 1: with a gun got loose. There's always a part of

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Speaker 1: me that says everybody should stop covering these stories because

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Speaker 1: it just promotes the next person thinking, Okay, I can

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Speaker 1: go out with a blaze of glory. Oh I agree.

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Speaker 1: Some half these guys, it seems, killed themselves. The other

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Speaker 1: half get caught, you know, taken into customer. But you

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Speaker 1: know again, they had this guy on a gun charge

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Speaker 1: a few years ago and they didn't give him any

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Speaker 1: jail time. So now hey, father's speaking out. He mentally

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Speaker 1: unwound a few years back. That's right, Okay, mental case

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Speaker 1: was charged or the felony involving a gun not given prison? Hey,

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Speaker 1: what do you think is gonna happen? What do you

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Speaker 1: think's gonna happen? There was no punishment for having the

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Speaker 1: gun the first time, and he's out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: We are faced with an overwhelming men mental health crisis

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Speaker 1: in this country. Now, it explains the homeless problem and

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Speaker 1: explains some of the shootings. There's either there's not enough

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Speaker 1: services to take care of these people. There's not enough

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Speaker 1: laws to compel these people into getting services. I know,

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Speaker 1: and they're probably both true, and there's no desire to

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Speaker 1: pass a law to force them in. Right. Instead, let's

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Speaker 1: get all the guns. That's all we got, remove all

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Speaker 1: the guns. No one can shoot each other. Because yelling

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Speaker 1: about guns gets you fundraising money. Ye, no, really, yelling

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Speaker 1: at a mental illness gets no fundraising money. People aren't

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Speaker 1: passionate about that. No. And of course if you fund

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Speaker 1: mental illness, then you've got to compel people into mental

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Speaker 1: illness treatment. See these two things, they look like. It's

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Speaker 1: just we can't get over those fences. I can't get there.

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Speaker 1: I just found an article. Maybe we'll do it to much.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't want to work in

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Speaker 1: mental health field, considering the shake up that happened during

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Speaker 1: the pandemic where so many people quit, like the restaurant jobs.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people quit these kind of jobs too.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to deal with this. It's stressful to

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Speaker 1: work in mental health. It must be. If they actually

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Speaker 1: built all the clinics and hospitals they need, there'd be

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Speaker 1: nobody to staff them. You couldn't pay enough money to

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Speaker 1: get a qualified staff. It would be impossible to find

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Speaker 1: enough to act money for that. That's why it's never

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Speaker 1: going to be done. This is not work anybody wants

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Speaker 1: to do. I wouldn't want to do it. Actually, I'd

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Speaker 1: rather live in a tent than they'd be locked up

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Speaker 1: with mental patients trying to force medication on them every days.

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Speaker 1: There's gotta be a better way. I just wanted the

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Speaker 1: thing we'll get to this to Mark because I just started.

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Speaker 1: I found a story put out by Kaiser Health News.

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Speaker 1: Kaiser has its own news service now, so yes, I

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00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: have seen those stories, right, and it's about how's Newsom

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00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: going to run for president with the homeless situation so

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Speaker 1: out of control, and where he kind of admits that

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Speaker 1: nobody really knows what to do because you can't force

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Speaker 1: people into treatment, you can't forced them to take medication,

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00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: you can't get them engaged. They don't even want to

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Speaker 1: hear about it. And as I just said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure there is enough mental healthcare treatment out there now

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Speaker 1: even if you got them all into it. Who's going

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Speaker 1: to do this right? That's going to take a real

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Speaker 1: really I hate to say funding, but a recruitment effort

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Speaker 1: is really what it's going to take. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that conversation goes where you talk

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Speaker 1: to somebody into take care of mental patience for the

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Speaker 1: rest of their life. Even if you did, they probably

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Speaker 1: quit in two years. There is a shocking sort of

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Speaker 1: development in a story we've been covering the radiologists from

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Speaker 1: Pasadena by the name of Darmesh Patel, who was up

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Speaker 1: with his family in a trip in northern California, drove

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Speaker 1: his tesla off a cliff with his wife and their

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Speaker 1: two kids inside. Remember that story. Remarkably they all survived,

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Speaker 1: even though they call that devil slide where a few

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Speaker 1: people that drive off that PC section live. Apparently, when

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Speaker 1: the paramedics got there, the wife was screaming, he's trying

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Speaker 1: to kill us all. Here's the shocking new development. She

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Speaker 1: does not want him to be charged because apparently, from

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Speaker 1: what we understand, Ms Bettel, her name is Nieha, has

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Speaker 1: told I guess investigators her prosecutors, she does not want

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Speaker 1: her husband to be prosecuted. It's not her call. That's true.

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Speaker 1: They can still do it anyway, which happens in a

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Speaker 1: lot of domestic violence case. We had that story earlier

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Speaker 1: this week. I don't think we did it on the

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Speaker 1: air in Oakland about there was some killer up there

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Speaker 1: and the family was filling the killer. Woman that was

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Speaker 1: owned to bakery was murdered. She got dragged after they

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Speaker 1: stole like her purse or her right, and she held

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Speaker 1: onto the car and the thieves dragged her and she died.

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Speaker 1: And all her progressive, woke family members don't want the

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Speaker 1: guy in car serrated. It's not up to you. When

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Speaker 1: they file a felony murder case. The case is entitled

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Speaker 1: the People Versus Blank, the people versus but they need

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Speaker 1: the witnesses to make the case stronger. Right, well, you do.

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Speaker 1: That helps, but it's not a civil case where the

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Speaker 1: family is trying to put the killer in jail or

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Speaker 1: the wife is trying to put the killer in jail.

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Speaker 1: It's the people of California that are trying to put

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Speaker 1: the killer in jail. And part of the reason is

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Speaker 1: to keep the killer from killing anybody else because clearly

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Speaker 1: he's violent and out of his mind. So it's not

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Speaker 1: your cludes matter. If you forgive, that's great, you know,

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Speaker 1: you go take that the church and you can go forgive.

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Speaker 1: But the rest of us want killers put away for life,

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Speaker 1: all right. When we returned, it's the gunman at Michigan

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Speaker 1: State the open fire last night, killed three, wounded five

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Speaker 1: more before he killed himself. Alex Stone, ABC News for

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Speaker 1: KFI has all the latest. John and Ken kf I

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Speaker 1: AM six forty Live Everywhere, the iHeartRadio app, and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Mark lit in the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom