1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: why I want to be happy? You want to be 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: happy for a day? Edo steak is that woo woom? 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: And them and tie Welcome back to the Soliburbo boys 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: and girls. My name is Ty hilden Brandt, that guy 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: over there in beautiful Chicagoland, the one, the only, the incomparable. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Dan Rubins, Sir, how are you tossing and turning all 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: night figuring out what the name of this week should be? 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: What our s words are? And then I thought to myself, 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: what am I actually doing here? As I tossed and turned? 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: This is totally true. I played tennis last night and 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: it wakes me up right. It's it's hard to fall 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: asleep sometimes if your your brain is activated like that 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: workouts and stuff, and so then I was thinking, Okay, 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: what does the week look like? And then I thought 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: to myself, oh, well, I have this new theory about 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: why teams are covering why why the best teams are 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: covering spreads now that we have some sample size, And 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: then I thought about words, and then I don't know, uh, 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: there's there was this squirm and squeam like squeamish? And 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I know squeam isn't a word, just like I know 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: stavs isn't a word, but maybe it should be. So 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: I have squirm and squeam Saturday. WHOA based on some 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: of these matchups? It doesn't make sense and I think 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: you'll do better. But that's where we are. 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna go squid Game Saturday. 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: See, I haven't watched the squid game programs. Have you 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: seen of games? 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: No? 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I haven't big jlaw fan, but no, I haven't seen 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: the Hunger. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: It's sort of like the Korean Hunger games to paint 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: with a very broad brush, but there there's a quality 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: to the without giving too much way, there's a quality 36 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: to squid Game where it seems like easy money and 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: then the deeper you get into it, you realize there 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: is very real threat of bodily harm and or death. 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: So is it a squeamish show? There's definitely a squeamish 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: quality to it. Yeah, I was gonna say that's what 41 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like. Okay, I don't know squid game though, 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: so I can't confirm nor deny that this is a 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: good choice. Okay, we had a suggestion. We had a 44 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: preverb suggestion as well. We did have a. 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Preverb suggestion from Paul, who wrote in to go with 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: second ranked slip up Saturday, and he says, the last 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: time a number two ranked team went into Navy Marine 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: Corpts Stadium was November nineteen eighty four, when South Carolina 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: left with their national championship hopes dashed. And Paul knows 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: because he was there. Now, look, Cincinnati is going to 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: square off against Navy this weekend. Navy is projected to 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: go one and eleven the rest of the way. It's 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: one of the least efficient teams in the country. So 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: I say, respectfully to Paul, this would be quite the 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: slip up if in fact that happened, But it may 56 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: be our best available choice at the moment. 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm with it. I like it. You don't like saying squeam, 58 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: which is what I guess two year olds called Wes 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: Craven's classic, Yes, squeam. 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: I it's it's like it's up there with moist. 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Was on 120 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the fence and then I heard Dan soundboard and I 121 00:05:54,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, Tip, and now they love it. Now 122 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: they love it. Shall we get to news, Dan, let's 123 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: do it. We have brigad newspeeppepeppep yep. We do big news. 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: It is big news. Typically we would save news for Friday. 125 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: We didn't feel like we could do it because two 126 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: coaches have been fired since we hit the stop button 127 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 2: on the week seven recap show. We'll start with Coach 128 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: ed Orgeron. There have been rumors for a while that 129 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: Coach O was on the outs with LSU. LSU put 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: together a really nice win over Florida this past weekend, 131 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: so the speculation turned to did he save his job? 132 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: Did he not save his job? We found out earlier 133 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: this week that indeed, coach ed Orgeron will no longer 134 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: be the coach of LSU starting in twenty twenty two, 135 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: he and the university agreed to mutually part ways. This, 136 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: of course, has set off a flurry a speculation and 137 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 2: as to who the next coach might be at LSU. 138 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Because it's a really good job, no two ways about it. 139 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: It's a really good job. You can fully expect that 140 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: everybody with a name in college football, maybe even some 141 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: names of pro football, will be tagged with that job 142 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: and have to answer questions about it. But why don't 143 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: we start at the very top? Dan just a few 144 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: years removed from that once in a generation team led 145 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: by Joe Burrow winning the New Year Championship. Yeah yeah, 146 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: Coach Orgeron is now dismissed at the end of the 147 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: year and will be moving on your. 148 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: Thoughts on the move? Is now the right time? Does 149 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: this make sense? Yeah? Well, especially given how many writers 150 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: with information about behind the scenes goings on at LSUN 151 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: and Baton Rouge were ready. Well it broke and look, 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: there were rumblings leading up to the Florida game. We 153 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: had heard some of those rumblings, but you don't have 154 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: anything really verified, and it's you know, it's not Scott 155 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Woodward texting us that like, Okay, we're going to fire 156 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: him sday morning, but or we're gonna announce his firing. 157 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: It seems like everything was handled kind of by the 158 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: book in terms of like, Okay, this is where we're going, 159 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: we are moving past you, and you know, there was 160 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: some concern. What was it? The dead cat bounce was 161 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: the quote I saw where Les Miles had all sorts 162 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: of good will when there were rumors about his future, 163 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: and then he won a bunch of games. So it 164 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: was clear once the pieces came out. I think it 165 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: was Brodi Miller from The Athletic, Ross Dellinger from s 166 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: I or the two that I zeroed in on that 167 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: the issues went deeper than just wins and losses. You 168 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: know obviously last year that the Scott Lenehan and bo 169 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: Polini hires very clearly didn't work out, and then it 170 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: came out that he didn't necessarily vet and fully interview 171 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: bow Polini. It was more a recommendation from Pete Carroll 172 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: at Orizron's You know mentor and you know a long 173 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: time he was you know, USC assistant and just has 174 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: leaned on Pete Carroll. And then there were stories about 175 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: I think acting more a radically perhaps than a major 176 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Power five coach should in public, and he gets divorced, 177 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: and there's stories about kids of women he was dating, 178 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: participating in practice drills, and just there was a cultural 179 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: element to things where there were there were former players 180 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: pointing to his reaction and sort of ignorance about how 181 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: to relate to players given last summer's social issues that became, 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, a big part of the cultural conversation, and 183 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: he just seemed a miss about how to relate to players, 184 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: And so there were just it was one after the 185 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: other of not really being locked in with the program 186 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: in a way that somebody at a place as huge 187 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: as LSU should be, and then given where they are 188 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: this year in a disappointing way. There's injuries all of 189 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: course on defense and inconsistencies, and I don't know, there 190 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: were a couple people pointed to the like sissy blue 191 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: shirt thing at UCLA. It didn't seem to bother me. 192 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: That's at Rizonon's personality, for better or worse. But yeah, 193 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: given how high LSU was a couple of years years ago, 194 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: and given the fact that basically every LSU coach in 195 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: the last twenty years has won a national championship Nick Saban, 196 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: less Miles andhow had Oarsron, it's a tremendously impressive place 197 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: to coach, and LSU will have really strong options, as 198 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned. But it's a shame. It's a shame because 199 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: at least the public facing coach Oh was easy to 200 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: root for, right being from the state, having the success 201 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: being passed over at USC despite the success he had 202 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: there as an interim coach a couple times and being 203 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: fully out of the sport, and it was a good story. 204 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Bruce Felman wrote a book about it. Public facing though, 205 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: is that that key distinction there? And it didn't work out, 206 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: And it was clear why it didn't work out. It 207 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: was clear that LSU needed to make a change, and 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: I am very excited to see the direction with which 209 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: this search and hire goes. 210 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very excited for the coaching carousel to be honest, 211 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. It has gotten off to a 212 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: very early start, with the USC firing now LSU opening up. 213 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 2: Who knows that there will be other big time openings 214 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: that emerged throughout the course of this season. I think 215 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: you're right to point out the contrast between how LSU 216 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: handled the less Miles dismissal versus how they handled this one. 217 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: Different ads, different ads. 218 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 2: Different ads, and granted this one is in season, the other, 219 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: you know, kind of lingered on throughout the course of 220 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: many seasons. But it did feel like it was handled 221 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 2: in a professional way. It is not one of those 222 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: deals where they're going to fire him on the tarmac. 223 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: Awkward pressor though awkward pressor because he's coaching out the year. 224 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Awkward presser. Yeah, awkward presser. 225 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: There's always going to be an awkward quality to this, 226 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: but it does feel as if there was a little 227 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: bit more professionalism this time around. And look that the 228 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: names that are already being linked to this job are robust. 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: You can go at the very top of the college 230 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: coaching ranks with names like Dabo Sweeney. It's been and about. 231 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure if you followed the story at all, you 232 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: know that the ad now he's the one who hired 233 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher, Scott what we're doing right, Scott Ward hired 234 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher at A and M gave him that Mammoth contract. 235 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: Now he's at LSU. He's a guy who quote unquote 236 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: likes to make a splash, likes to make a splash, 237 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: and so some of the early speculation I saw our 238 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: friend Bruce Felman talked about this a little bit. 239 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: He is the type of guy. 240 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: Woodward is the type of guy who's going to go 241 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 2: after Dabbo and make him say no. If you're going 242 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: after Dabbo, if you're making Dabos say no, pretty much 243 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: means nobody's off limits, not Dabbo, not Jimbo, who's already 244 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: been denying some of the reports linking him to this job. 245 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: He was pretty emphatic, to his credit, he was as 246 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: emphatic as we've seen, saying I have roots here. We're 247 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: building something great here. I think at one point he 248 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: says I have ranches here, which was like his own, 249 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: like I have a Dodge stratus, I have ranches plural 250 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: plural in Texas, which I respect. He was like, I 251 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: hunt here. So it was as emphatic a mid season 252 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: denial of interest as could be expected as denials go. 253 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: Dan it was a pretty good one. Yeah, Yeah, so 254 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: that was you're right, So, yeah, the names across the board. 255 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: I saw Bruce talk about mel Tucker. Now there's a 256 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: lot of interest within the LSU Athletic department building in 257 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: what mel Tucker has done in a short time at 258 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: Michigan State, and certainly given his track record in history 259 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: as a defensive mind and recruiter in the SEC, you 260 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: understand why mel Tucker is an attractive candidate. Who else 261 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: you got? James Franklin. I wrote all these down because 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: it's across the country, Mario Christobal, Mark Stoops, like any 263 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: of these guys who win impressively at places that don't 264 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: traditionally win eight nine, ten games. I mean Lang Kiffin, 265 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: at Ole, Miss Cheffin, Billy Napier, Louisiana list. I was 266 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: surprised Campbell. 267 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: I was surprised that I didn't see more about Matt Campbell. 268 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: I have not seen his name as high up on 269 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: that list. It's been linked to it, for sure, and 270 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm certain Matt Campbell's name is going to come up 271 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: a thousand times before the end of the year with 272 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: respect to any of these openings as they emerge. But 273 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: that's one name I was surprised, was not higher up 274 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: on more lists. 275 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: I think think there's always going to be fair not 276 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: a part of SEC coaching searches that look at SEC 277 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: resumes and Matt Campbell's resume is based in the Midwest, 278 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: and you know the rest of these names, now Luke 279 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: Fickle as well, but you know Dave Randa, given his 280 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: success at LSU, Lane Kiffin has been and is still 281 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: in the SEC Mark stoops of course, Mario Christaball at Alabama, 282 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: James Franklin at Vanderbilt, and Mel Tucker at Georgia, so understandably, 283 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: so that is going to be a part of the conversation. Well, 284 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: we will see. 285 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: But again that was news of coach firing number one. 286 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: The second bit of news that dropped was that Nick 287 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: Rolovich has been fired with cause from Washington State. So 288 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: if you've been following this story with coach Rollovic, it 289 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: has sort of been a slow moving, slow developing thing 290 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: whereby there's been a mandate from the state of Washington, 291 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: I think more specifically from Washington State thatployees receive a vaccination. 292 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 2: Nik Rolovitch has been hesitant to do so, and so 293 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: despite the fact that there was kind of some ambiguity 294 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: as to will he follow this mandate? Will he not 295 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: follow this mandate? It came to a head very quickly 296 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: over the last forty eight hours or so, and news 297 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: broke yesterday that university would be terminating his contract and 298 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: moving on in his absence. There were also four other 299 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: assistants that were also terminated. In light of this news, 300 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: it feels like there's gotta be more to this story, 301 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: doesn't there. 302 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I hope on a certain level there is more to 303 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: the story, because we don't know the story beyond the 304 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: simple plain facts in that there'sday mandate. If you want 305 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: to remain employed by the State of Washington, especially you know, 306 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: K through twelve, higher education, long term care, a number 307 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: of jobs like that, you have to show proof of 308 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: vaccination or receive a medical or religious exemption. Apparently Nikrolovitch 309 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: applied for a religious exemption, and it was clear not 310 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't know his spiritual and religious background and where 311 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: that might be coming from, so I can't comment on it. 312 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: But also of note, Nick Rolovitch hasn't really commented on anything, 313 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: so and that's the thing, right, that's the thing. 314 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: Look, we're living in the age of COVID, and there 315 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: are a lot of takes out there. We're not going 316 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: to provide any takes. That's not really what we do 317 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: or try to do on this show. But I can 318 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: say that the people who have seemingly been most publicly 319 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: defiant of such mandates have been either very hot under 320 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: the collar about it. Let's say I'm very public in 321 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: they're disdain for it, or they have taken the approach 322 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: of posting some sort of thoughtful thing on social media. 323 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: And you know, our values don't align, and this is 324 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: why I'm moving on right. But in the absence of that, 325 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: in the absence of that Roleovic is a none of 326 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: that really, And so because he has not really taken 327 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: a stand one way or the other on either of 328 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: those two sides of the coin, it has left open 329 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: this abyss for others to fill with their opinions. 330 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I imagine we will learn more because that just 331 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: just generally how things like this work. And look, it 332 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: is fully his right to stay as quiet as he 333 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: possibly wants to do. It is fully his right to 334 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: not get a vaccination in a time where it appears, 335 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: if you listen to the experts, that it is our 336 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: best if you look at the data, it's our best 337 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: defense against the spread of a deadly virus, and I 338 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: just it's not his right to coach at Washington State. 339 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: It's his right to do what he wants, it's not 340 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: his right to coach at Washington State. Pat Chun, the 341 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: man in charge at Washington State, apologize for the position 342 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: that this put everybody in. I saw that he didn't, 343 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, speak to his team after the facts. So 344 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of players left in the lurch, 345 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: without a head coach, without a number of assistants, and 346 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: a number of assistants who are still there who will 347 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: be without a job at the end of the year 348 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: most likely. And so it's a pretty terrible position for 349 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: players who have been playing well, who have followed guidelines, 350 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: who have done all that they've been asked of them 351 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: by this coaching staff, and are now without a number 352 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: of coaches, including the head coach. And so, you know, 353 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that there's more to the story, because right 354 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: now you can just sort of look at it in 355 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: simplistic terms that there are rules, coach didn't follow the rules. 356 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: He's out. It's a straightforward insubordination, dismissal. And I look 357 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: forward to more context and more subtlety to this story, 358 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily expect it. Now. 359 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: Well, we'll see it is big news. We will talk 360 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: briefly about the BYU game coming up and what that 361 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: looks like on the Wazus side. But suffice to say, 362 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: this is something that didn't really catch folks by surprise. 363 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: I'd been brewing for a while, and like you, I 364 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 2: share your optimism. I guess that there may be more 365 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: subtlety and more context of the story so that we 366 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: can get a better appreciation for what went down there. 367 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: But for the time being, anyway, the headline is that 368 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: nik Rolovich is also out at Wazoo. 369 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I never like to just assume somebody is a 370 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: bad person without hearing full context and without hearing from them, 371 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: So hopeful for that. And the Wazoo job is interesting. 372 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: There are some interesting coaching candidates out west. Yeah, be 373 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: it in the Mountain West, be it assistance at Pack 374 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: twelve schools. Washington State is going to get a lot 375 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: of attention, and the talking point is going to be 376 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: it's a very tough place to win, it's a very 377 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: tough place to recruit two but also it's kind of 378 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: rad because people get into football on the poloose. People 379 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: get into Pullman, and people get into Washington State, and 380 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: people get into the Cougars, and the Pac twelve is 381 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: wide open. And maybe it takes a somewhat eccentric football 382 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: mind to win there, or just a unique football strategy, 383 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: but it can be done. And I don't know. I like, 384 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, Gardner Minshew was was slanging it a couple 385 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: of years. 386 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 2: I mean, like that's kind of the hidden brilliance in 387 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: them bringing you over Mike Leach. Say whatever you want 388 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: about Leech, but he is an eccentric guy. And if 389 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: his system is gonna work in a place like it 390 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: worked at Texas Tech, Sure it worked, you know, to 391 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: some extent at Pullman as well. I don't know how 392 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: it'll go down long term at Mississippi State, but I 393 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: get the logic behind hiring somebody who is a little 394 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: bit outside the norm. 395 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I like that idea. Yeah, I mean, Jay Norvell was 396 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: a name obviously, Nevada another difficult place to win. Jeff Chote, 397 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: who is at Montana State. It is now on Pekkwakowski 398 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: staff at Texas, Joe mooreheads at Oregon. I saw his 399 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: name thrown in there, so I think there are quality 400 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: candidates here for an interesting job, just a unique job, 401 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I would say, But you can win at Wazoo to 402 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: some extent, and it's it's a cool thing. So I'm 403 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: rooting for a good hire that makes Wazoo continually dangerous 404 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: in their own way. 405 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: And the only other news tidbit that I have here, 406 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: and I suppose we could save this for the Alabama 407 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: Tennessee game, but Tennessee was fined two hundred and fifty 408 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: grand for the antics that went down in light of 409 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: that old miss game. 410 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: Boy, there have been. 411 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: Some takes, Boy, you could power infinitely planet Earth on 412 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: the clean burning energy source. That is hot takes that 413 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: have emerged after that Tennessee fiasco. But Tennessee find not 414 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: a good look for Tennessee fan base. Like granted, I 415 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: know it wasn't all the Tennessee fans, but it seems 416 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 2: as if the SEC is trying to close the loop 417 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: on that and hopefully move things forward. 418 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: Close the loop, you can take them out of a 419 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: corporate day job. It's it's always party down here, ye him. Yeah. 420 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: As part of the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, 421 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: Tennessee needs to issue a report on its findings about 422 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: how things went wrong, where things went wrong, both just 423 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: sort of emotionally and within the crowd itself. They need 424 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: to use like video surveillance to identify people who are 425 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: being particularly boisterous and throwy and ban them. For the 426 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty two academic and athletic year, we 427 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: got a little CSI Knoxville thing going on right now. Yeah, 428 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: so that's what's going on. My hot take is you 429 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: should be upset with officials when there are bad calls. 430 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: You shouldn't throw projectiles in their general direction in a 431 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: crowded place that might hit otherwise innocent bystack that that. 432 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 2: May not be the best way to help the SEC 433 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: officials change their mind. 434 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no conference fan likes their officials. No, But it's 435 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: how you deal with your anger that helps to define you, 436 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: even if it's a small stress toy. Yes, I might 437 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: suggest as well, But this is this is a small 438 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: percentage of fans, but bigger than it should be. Let's 439 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: get to our. 440 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: Week eight games, Daniel y. All the heavy stuff is 441 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: out of the way, let's have some fun. 442 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Week eight. 443 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: It does not have a readily apparent label for this 444 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: week because it is a lighter slate of games in 445 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: Week eight. As we talk about things like the window 446 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: of opportunity, you can make a damn good case that 447 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: Week eight is the window of opportunity. Dan, there just 448 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: aren't a whole lot of high level matchups. I'm excited 449 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: about the week, as I am every week throughout the 450 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: college football season. But on the totem pole, looking at 451 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: how Week eight stacks up in terms of the slate 452 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: and the games and the action, it's definitely not on 453 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: the same level as what we've seen over the last 454 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: gosh four or five weeks. Now, that doesn't mean it 455 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: won't be interesting, which is why I was pushing for 456 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: squid game Saturday. 457 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Just can sneak up on you and it can kill you. 458 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: I wouldna say it's a reverse window of opportunity. Instead 459 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: of watching closely to windows, maybe you'd sandwich the three 460 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: point thirty eastern window, which looks awesome. You sandwich that 461 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: with your responsibilities as a human not a college football fan. 462 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: Sounds good to me. Okay, okay, just making sure because 463 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: you look at the three thirty window, there's some bangers. 464 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: It's good. 465 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: Let's start at three point thirty on Fox. Let's start 466 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: with Oklahoma State on the road at Iowa State. Iowa 467 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: State favored by seven. You know where I'm at with 468 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: Iowa State. I've made that no secret at this point. 469 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: I've got them running the table from here on out. 470 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: But this is a big. 471 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: Game against top ten team in Oklahoma State. It is 472 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: Iowa State's chance to get some redemption after dropping two 473 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: of their first four games. For what it's worth, the 474 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: last six meetings have been won score games, and as 475 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: you have rightfully pointed out time and again, Mike Gundy 476 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: has definitely gotten the better of Matt Campbell. He's four 477 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: and one against Matt Campbell in the time that Campbell's 478 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: been in games. 479 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: Where are you at with this one? Went back and forth. 480 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: I am going to go with the Pokes here on 481 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: the road, and I went back and forth. What I 482 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: do on my sheet is I will embolden the team 483 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: that I am picking when I look at the matchup, 484 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: and I am bolden. I went back and forth. Here 485 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: it's two really strong defenses. It is an Iowa State 486 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: team who I think struggled situationally at times. When you 487 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: look at what they did against Iowa with the turnovers 488 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: and what they did against Baylor with special teams play. 489 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: But I think you're right. I think they're coming into 490 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: their own. It's an experienced, older squad. But with Oklahoma 491 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: State now it's a letdown spot. Neither went into Austin 492 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: and beat Texas last week largely because of the defense, 493 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: but they made plays on offense too. I'm going to 494 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: go with what I'm more scared of, and that's very 495 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: difficult for me. Am I more scared of Brock Purty 496 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: throwing into the Oklahoma State defense? Or Am I more 497 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: scared of Spencer Sanders throwing into the Iowa State defense? 498 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't. That was difficult for me too. Mike Gundy's 499 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: history Oklahoma State's defense. They both rushed the passer well, 500 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: they both stopped big plays. Well. I think I like 501 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's offense a little bit more. I like Breese Hall, 502 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: but this hasn't been like a big explosive Iowa State offense, 503 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: so on the margins. The other thing I noticed, Oklahoma 504 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: State's a pretty good kick return team to Brendan Presley. 505 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: Special teams go on, go on. It's not my special 506 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: teams tie oh Iowa State special teams that shine a 507 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: light on themselves that I just happened to glance at 508 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: like a fact moth here, I am tie a fact moth, 509 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I see light, I go to it. And Oklahoma State 510 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: returns kicks pretty well, and so Margins here, I'm gonna 511 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: go Pokes on the road, even in a letdown spot. 512 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Seven points is a lot. If they lose, they're losing 513 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: by a field goal at the gun or something like that. 514 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: I am taking the road. 515 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: Dog. 516 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: See, we have done this show for far too long, 517 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: and I know that when you are diving into that 518 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: kick return rabbit hole that you really truly did struggle 519 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: with who. 520 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: You're going to pick an. Yeah, of course, I mean 521 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: look that I know the two teams are built similarly. 522 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: I like the skill talent of Iowa State, maybe a 523 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: little bit more because of the tight ends, and I 524 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: worry about Spencer Sanders and his carelessness with the ball. 525 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: But Brock Purdy has been kind of interception happy against 526 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: the Pokes these past cup I just I don't know. 527 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: It's it. Look it's fair. 528 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: I get the logic. I do not share your tentativeness 529 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: with Iowa State here. My logic is very simple. This 530 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: is still the same Iowa State team that everybody was 531 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: high on before the start of the year. Their two 532 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 2: losses were to good teams. 533 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: But they hadn't seen them this year. 534 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: Sure, whatever, but in both cases they sort of shot 535 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: themselves in the foot. 536 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: That's why they lost. 537 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: So I will get the game last week against k State, 538 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: hopefully that's a blueprint for what's to come the rest 539 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 2: of the way. KSE State's not the best team in 540 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: the world, but they're an above average team and they 541 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: certainly can beat you if you make dumb mistakes. We've 542 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: seen that from them time and again. Iowa State didn't 543 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: do that, and I still felt like in watching that 544 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: game there was a lot of room to grow. Definitely 545 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: a version of Iowa State is still out there, but 546 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: I liked what I saw. 547 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: They look good and I. 548 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: Think they can be a lot better. And I'm just 549 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: underwhelmed by Oklahoma State right now. Like the defense is 550 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: legitimately very good, legitimately very good, but outside of Jalen 551 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: warren Man, this offense is capital be bad. 552 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: I hear you. They get off the field far too 553 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: quickly on offense. But at the same time, they are 554 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: one of I think the best ten teams on defense 555 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: in getting off the field themselves. I think it's a 556 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: fascinating matchup. 557 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: For sure, it's a fascinating matchup. Oklahoma State is a 558 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: hidden half team. They're a hidden half team, very deep within, 559 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: like the North Korean caves, you will find Oklahoma State. 560 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: Does it worry you when the conversation about Iowa State 561 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: coming into the season is there are so many older guys. 562 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: This team returns everybody, but they still make the same mistakes. 563 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't get it at all. It's a It drives 564 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: me crazy. If a team is holding a gun to 565 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: its foot every week, don't you worry about that every week? 566 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: Isn't there I do? 567 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm just I think they just are what they are. 568 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma State is the old definition of a 569 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: luck runs out team. You're old Roy. I think it's 570 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: gonna happen this week. So I've got Oklahoma State IO State. 571 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm going iostate minus the number minus seven. Io State 572 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: twenty eight to seventeen is my final. Eventually, the lack 573 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: of offense, Eventually, the lack of let's say balance on 574 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: offense for Oklahoma State catches up with them, and I 575 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: think it's this week. 576 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm done down in the pokes. 577 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, moving on, let's talk about your 578 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: Oregon Ducks. Three thirty ABC Oregon on the road a 579 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: two point dog against the UCLA Bruins. I think it's 580 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 2: meaningful that the number ten team in the country is 581 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: a two point road dog. 582 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: Long right, it was a big It was like a 583 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: five point I think Oregon Open is like three three 584 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: and a half point favorites and it fully swung in 585 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: like twenty four hours. 586 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: Well, I talked to you about this either on the 587 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: Solid Saturday broadcast that we did last Saturday or the 588 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Week seven recap show. 589 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 590 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: The app that I used for sports betting that is 591 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: not a sponsor, offered early Week eight lines and I 592 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: was able to grab UCLA plus three because I saw 593 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: it and I say, ooh that that can't be right. 594 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: That can't be right. 595 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: And this is after the Oregon col game on Friday night. 596 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 2: You were on this game like an Iowa State gunner 597 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: and the wrong lane. 598 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Continue. 599 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: I got UCLA plus three. I have UCLA as my 600 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: lock of. 601 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: The week. 602 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: Minus two at home. What worries me about this game 603 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: in particular, in this one specific matchup. What do we 604 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: think about UCLA's past defense I guess I should say 605 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: lack thereof a pass defense, Like how concern should I 606 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: be as somebody who bet UCLA that Oregon has the manpower, 607 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: the resources, the talent to actually take advantage of. 608 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: That, specifically the past defense, specifically the past defense. So 609 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks who have beaten UCLA were what Jake 610 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: Hayner and Jayden Daniels, who are both good, definitely good, yeah, great, 611 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: have flaws, definitely good quarterbacks. And what UCLA's defense tries 612 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: to do will oftentimes successfully is bring a lot of 613 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: pressure and leaves their corners on islands. And some quarterbacks 614 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: can handle it and identify it and find open guys, 615 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: find the hot guys whatever, or throw it up to 616 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: one on one coverage deep, which ASU is able to 617 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: do successfully and some are not able to. And so 618 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: I think UCLA's corners, I think they're secondary. They're fine. 619 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're of that caliber if 620 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: facing a good quarterback. I don't necessarily believe Anthony Brown 621 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: is on that level. I saw what PFF or something 622 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: had him as like the tenth or eleventh highest graded 623 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: PAC twelve quarterback, and that's never a good number when 624 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: they're only twelve teams. But UCLA does play a very 625 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 1: specific defense, and it's intriguing to me that they are 626 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: boom or bust with this. Now last year, Tyler Shuck 627 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: really did struggle and a winning effort did struggle with 628 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: all that pressure that Jerry asinaar when the UCLA defense brings. 629 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: But it's it's boom or bust and it's an interesting matchup. 630 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: We can go into other matchups in this game, but 631 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: that's my general view of the UCLA secondary, that they 632 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: are put on islands for sure. 633 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 2: I saw the PFF rating two for Anthony Brown, and 634 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to get some further context because you know, 635 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: I feel like you and I when we talk about Oregon, 636 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: you always sort of take like this, I don't know, 637 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: shrugging tone if that's even such thing where you openly 638 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: acknowledge that Oregon is highly ranked, but you don't fully 639 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: believe in the ranking with this team. Let me play 640 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: Devil's Advocate for a second, not just with Oregon, but 641 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: with Anthony Brown. He's got a fifty nine percent completion percentage, 642 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: which isn't great, but he's only thrown one pick. He 643 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: averages five yard. He's precarious so he's good when he 644 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 2: decides to run if he has to, and if Oregon 645 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: wins out, which is definitely on the table, they're kind 646 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: of on a glide path into the top six, into 647 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: that playoff conversation. Now, we may not believe they're going 648 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: to beat the likes of a Georgia or an Alabama 649 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 2: or Ohio State again if they play Utah, how about 650 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 2: Utah Utah before that? Yeah, But every week we come 651 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 2: to this show and we hate a little bit on 652 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: Anthony Brown, we talk down Oregon. You're on the mind, right? 653 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Is that fair criticism? 654 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? And it's to me it's the more I watch 655 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: this Oregon team, It's about hidden yards. It's about missing 656 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: crossing routes. It's about throwing it too hard on shorter routes. 657 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: It's about checking down very quickly. It's about not really 658 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: being able to throw it on the run or just 659 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 1: making plays on first down to give yourself second and medium, 660 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: third and short like there's a there's a chain and 661 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: hidden yard part of this Oregon team that's maddening. Oregon 662 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: has long i think basically the duration of Mario Cristobaul's 663 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: tenure there. They have played up to end down to 664 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: the moment. You play call at nine to thirty Eastern 665 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: on a Friday night. You screw up a little bit 666 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: in the first half, and you hang on against a 667 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: below average cal team. You're playing a Stanford team in 668 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: a half empty stadium, and you's like your crowd is 669 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: there more so than their crowd, and you're down a 670 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: bunch of guys and you're just not feeling good about 671 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: the size of that game. I know what they're down, 672 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: their center, their safety that you know they get guys 673 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: kicked out in the second half. They're missing play calls 674 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: like Anthony Brown missed before halftime. They played down to moments. 675 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: They don't escape from Arizona until the very end of 676 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: that game. Stonybrook was a seventeen to seven game at halftime. 677 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: I believe this is an up moment though. Game days 678 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: in LA you watch what Mario Chris ball teams granted 679 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and to a lesser extent, Tyler Schock last 680 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: year with Anthony Brown coming and spelling against USC in 681 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: Pact twelve championship games, Oregon plays up to the moment. 682 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to look further than Ohio State this 683 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: year when all Add's Network TV, the Big Noon Saturday whatever. 684 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: I think Oregon is going to continue to torture its 685 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: fans by raising expectations this week because common sense dictates 686 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: Zach Charboney should run on this defense a good amount, right. 687 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: This is a defense that hasn't always been the best. 688 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: Now they limit big plays, that especially limit big running plays. 689 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: But Chip Kelly with weaknesses in this defense, a very 690 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: beat up linebacking corps, putting pressure on Anthony Brown, who 691 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: has struggled this year. The common sense that conventional wisdom 692 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: is UCLA wins this game comfortably because it's a nice 693 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: matchup for them. Oregon is a glory boy team. They 694 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: want the biggest, brightest cameras and they play up to it. 695 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: And with that torturous cloud hanging over Oregon fandom, with 696 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: the way that they play up to the moment, I 697 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: have Oregon winning this game and looking impressive and then 698 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, looking like garbage against Colorado or Wazoo or something. 699 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: It does give me a cause for pause, a favorite 700 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: pet charity of course, that you are on Oregon here 701 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 2: because you have I would say say, look, we probably 702 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: only pick about fifty percent of the game. 703 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: It's also it's in the Rose Bowl venue on the 704 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: coast with the biggest TV show short of Solid Saturday, 705 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: Solid Saturday dot Com in in the area. In the mix, 706 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: we pick about fifty. 707 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit better, maybe a little bit worse. Yeah, 708 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: you're much higher when it comes to Oregon. You've got 709 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: your finger on the pulse of Oregon. You've called this 710 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: team pretty much all year correctly. So it does give 711 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: me a little bit of hesitance. But I'm going to 712 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: stick to my guns here and go UCLA. That's fine, 713 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 2: minus a number, I'll lock it up. I think it's 714 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: a good matchup for him, so I'm just going to 715 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: stick with that. I'm not convinced that Anthony Brown can 716 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: pull another Ohio State game, and not that he has 717 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 2: to to be in the UCLA, but I'm just not 718 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: convinced on him. 719 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: So the thing I like. The thing I like is 720 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: Joe moorehead here that UCLA is such a specific defense, 721 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: and not that they're obvious, but that there is a 722 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: strategy to it. But I think Oregon will be prepared 723 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: in the way I don't you know, Ohio State didn't 724 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: adjust what Oregon was doing. But Oregon will be prepared 725 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: in a way that they are going to see wrinkles 726 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: and they're going to again, They're going to play to 727 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: the moment. It's what Oregon does. It's in LA. It's 728 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: you know what channel is this on? At ABC or 729 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Fox or something? It's on network TV. Yep, it's on ABC. 730 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 1: They're a little bit healthier upfront on defense, and they've 731 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: been these past couple weeks. Still beat up at linebacker. 732 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: It's what Oregon does. They're actually under Mario Christaball, they 733 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: are better on the road against the spread than they 734 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: are at home. He would see something like five and thirteen, 735 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: five and fourteen whatever he is at home against the spread, 736 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: and I just I like him in this spot. I do. 737 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: I hate that I do, But this is this is 738 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: what the Mario christabal era has taught us about Oregon performances. 739 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: Three thirty ESPN, We've got Clemson at pitt This is 740 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: another one that had a bit of a swing. If 741 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: you compare the mind from a week ago to where 742 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 2: it is now, about a touchdown swing in favor of 743 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: the sp Plus Dan has pit As the number eleven 744 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 2: team in the country, the thirteenth best offense, the eighteenth 745 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: best defense. This matchup in particular, I think is a 746 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 2: very good one for Pitt given the way their defense 747 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 2: stacks up. They're very stingy against the run. They can 748 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: play that game where they forced DJU to throw. 749 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: Which has been a clear weakness for Clemson this season. 750 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm saying that. I still have a 751 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: hard time actually wild it. But they have taken a huge, 752 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: huge step back in that passing department, and we're at 753 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: the halfway point in the season now, so the only 754 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: assumption you can make is that it's, yeah, it's just 755 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 2: not as good as. 756 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: It was a year ago. 757 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 2: They're not still feeling this thing out. It's it's just bad. 758 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: Dju's average net yards per attempt the ANYA is four 759 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 2: point five, which is very low. Yeah, very low. You 760 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: pulled another stat that you mentioned to me, what was 761 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 2: the three point eight number. 762 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: Against man coverage? And I don't believe Pitt plays a 763 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: bunch of man coverage, but the pit has actually been 764 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: pretty successful playing man. And you know paton Ardouzy obviously 765 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: known for wrinkles within that quarters system and pressing up 766 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: against the run. Three point eight yards per attempt against 767 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: man has been DJU who has been worse on the road, 768 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: and grant look that that counts Georgia the best defense 769 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: in probably many years now. Sure in college football, we presume, 770 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: but it also counts Syracuse. Dance struggled at Syracuse. 771 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 2: It also counts Syracuse and some of the other games 772 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 2: that we've seen DJU and the Clint. 773 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: Strugland Steorge attack Struggleather was an issue. But yeah, so. 774 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: They've just been not good at throwing the football, and 775 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 2: I think Pitt is good enough to contain whatever Clemson 776 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: running game is out there. Again, they're banged up, but 777 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 2: whatever Clemson running game is out there, Pitt will be 778 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: able to deal with that in Forrest DJU and provide 779 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: some of those wrinkles from patn Ardoozy. On the flip 780 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: side of things, Kenny Pickett has had a revelation of 781 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 2: the season. We have talked a whole lot about it 782 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: because Pitt hasn't really played anyone which is kind of 783 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: my only true hesitation going Pitt in this game, but 784 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: a twenty one to one touchdown to interception ratio, seventy 785 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 2: percent of his passes have been completed. I saw si 786 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 2: dot Com posted a mock draft that had Kenny Pickett 787 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: number one overall. 788 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: Man, oh, man, love it great? Which just a little aggressive, 789 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 1: but okay, sure, good, great, good for him. I hope 790 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: it works. I mean, will you be a believer of 791 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. He's okay, He's completed about seventy percent of 792 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: his passes, twenty one to one touchdown interception ratio. You 793 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: mentioned the adjusted net yards for attempt ten and a 794 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: half against man coverage, twelve yards against zone, eleven yards 795 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: per like it's just if you didn't see his name 796 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: in front of his line granted what it's Tennessee Virginia tack, 797 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: Georgia tack and granted Georgia Tech team that Clemson struggled 798 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: with and Pitt put on. If you took away the name, 799 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: you'd be like man that has a power five quarterback 800 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: putting up those numbers. I can be talked into it. 801 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: Size good, size. 802 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 2: Is good, talked into what number one overall? 803 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: Not necessarily number one, number one overall, but a legit 804 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: NFL pick. If you look at measurables and you're a 805 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: believer in his arm, your believer in his athleticism, like I, 806 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: we're on the road to an interesting draft prospect. If 807 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: he keeps that up, especially against a team like Clemson. 808 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: By the way, how many points do you need to 809 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: be Clemson in twenty twenty one eighteen? Yeah, Like, let's 810 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 1: not talk about a high bar this year against no, no, no, Look, 811 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: can you pick it? Yes? 812 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 2: Interesting draft prospect has shown improvement year over year, and 813 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: so that points to a coachable kid. He's obviously got 814 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 2: good numbers this year doing a good job pro prospect. 815 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 816 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the quarterback class this year is all over the map. 817 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: But did you ever Ti, did you ever play like 818 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: pee wee or little league baseball when you were brushed 819 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: up right against the age limit and just hit five 820 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: seventy seven? Like, did you ever have a season like that? 821 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: I did in basketball? Or I was just a head 822 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: taller than kids and I was more coordinated. I hit 823 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of shots and I would back smaller kids 824 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: down and I averaged like twenty six points a game 825 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,959 Speaker 1: or something like that when I was ten years old. 826 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: It didn't mean I was the best ten year old 827 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: in the country. It meant the age thing worked out 828 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: for me. Is Kenny Pickett being so experienced and having 829 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: the weapons against an ACC team that can't against AC 830 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: a conference that can't get out of its own way, 831 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: that can't score points, that can't mount impressive offenses or defenses. 832 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: At the same time, is there something to Kenny Pickett 833 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: just being in very calm water and being experienced to 834 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: pointing towards his success. There's probably part of it that's. 835 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: Partially, Yeah, the reason for it. But what have we 836 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 2: seen around college football? There's a lot of experience out there, 837 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 2: and we have more par than ever. There are more 838 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: teams shooting themselves in the foot than ever before Iowa 839 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 2: State we talked about Iowa State. He's got more experience 840 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: in Iowa State almost nobody, and yet here we are 841 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: talking about them shooting themselves in the foot and not 842 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: covering kicks. 843 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: And yeah, no, what I I think Pitt has done 844 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: is impressive. But is there a conference that makes Look, 845 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: you can talk to me about the PAC twelve, I 846 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: get it, but that makes less sense with Miami, North 847 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: Carolina and Clemson and Florida State, which there weren't expectations 848 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: of all completely falling off a cliff. Now, Like that's 849 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: the weird thing that there is stability to pit which 850 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: is their maybe their biggest strength right now. They're one 851 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: of the best pass rushing teams in the country, going 852 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: against a quarterback who struggles in this offense, behind a 853 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: line who's been struggling, throwing two receivers who have struggled, 854 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: and has a beat up running back room to his 855 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: to his left, whatever. So I just I think that 856 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 1: it's part of it. And that's not to put down Pitt, 857 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: because hey, good for Pitt man take advantage. 858 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: Good good for Pitt. Pitt's been very solid this year. 859 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 2: They have not played a great defense. Last week against 860 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 2: him attack was the best defense they played. They performed admirably. Yeah, 861 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: I don't take anything away from them, but even with 862 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 2: a banged up Clemson defense as they are, I do 863 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 2: expect a little bit of a speed bump here. I 864 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be, you know, pedal to 865 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 2: the metal the way it's been. They will have some resistance. 866 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: I've got Pitt winning. I think it's twenty four to fourteen. 867 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: They've got a good enough defense to hold down Clemson. 868 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,919 Speaker 2: Clemson's offense is not really showing signs of life at 869 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: this juncture, and Pitt will figure it out. So twenty 870 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 2: four to fourteen's my final. Pitt win's a big one 871 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 2: at home and we'll talk on the recap show when 872 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: we get there after this game what Pitt's prospects look 873 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: like moving forward. But it's there if they want it. 874 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 2: The ACC is there for them. 875 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, the ACC is. Aside from the team's falling off 876 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: the cliff, this has been a totally justifiable conversation and 877 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: talking point. Hey, Boston College, Georgia Tech and Syracuse and 878 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: Wake Forest are kind of interesting. Right, that's where the 879 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: conference is at. Right now, Okay, where that's a justifiable 880 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: talking Who are you picking it? It's wild? I'm taking Pitt. 881 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: Clemson gives me no reason to take Clemson. I you know, 882 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: Pitt has the better quarterback and an impressive pass rush. 883 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: This is an underthought game. Pitt wins this game, I 884 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 1: don't know. Twenty to thirteen, seven point thirty NBC. It's 885 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: USC on the road at Notre Dame. Notre Dame favored 886 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: by seven. 887 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: The Battle for the Jewels Shalela Dan Classic Trophy. Notre 888 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: Dame's won three meetings in a row. Here's the deal. 889 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: Take a knee. Is that what you're saying, Take a knee? 890 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: Take taken me? I like when you say that. 891 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: Continue I am in the exact same place with Notre 892 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 2: Dame as you are with Oregon. Okay, almost the exact 893 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 2: same place for different reasons, but. 894 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: Got a backup quarterback. Tie. Yeah. 895 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, They're going to inch their way up into the 896 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: playoff conversation even though they're a very flawed team. 897 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: They are, they just they are. Look at the schedule 898 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: they are iving. Notre Dame has a better chance of 899 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: being a sad conversation piece than Oregon because Oregon, I think, 900 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: or a better shot of losing. Continue. 901 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: Whatever the case, Notre Dame is going to inch their 902 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: way up into that conversation, provided they keep winning. Yet 903 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 2: they are a flawed team. It's just the kind of 904 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 2: year it is. It's not any indictment for what Brian 905 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: Kelly's doing, what Marria chris Ball is doing. It's it's 906 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 2: that kind of year. You've heard the expression and the 907 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: land of the Blind, the one eyed Man's king. That's 908 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 2: where we're at in college football. I love this matchup 909 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 2: for Notre Dame. I absolutely love it. 910 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: You couldn't give me that jewel during the pit conversation. 911 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: You saved that for Notre Dame. I saved it for 912 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Damn okay. 913 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 2: USC had a bye week to get ready, so did 914 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. But bear in mind that USC is playing 915 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: for an interim coach now and that they're very dependent 916 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 2: on Drake London out wide. He is their offense right Otherwise, 917 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 2: Keaton Slovis has not had a great year. Keyante ingram Is. 918 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 1: It's fine. 919 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: The transfer from Texas, he's fine. He's been okay in spots, 920 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 2: but I can't say that they've used him consistently well. 921 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 2: I think the game plan here for USC on offense 922 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 2: is pretty telegraphed at this point, and I think Marcus 923 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 2: Freeman love the guy, hate the guy. The defense has 924 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 2: gotten better and he's certainly smart enough to figure out 925 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 2: what's coming. They know what's coming. The question that I 926 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 2: have about USC's offense is not whether or not they'll score. 927 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: I think they will, but can they keep pace? Can 928 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: they keep pace? Because nobody, and I mean nobody, Dan 929 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: has trouble moving the ball in this SC defense. 930 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's true. Correct. 931 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: So the passing game, whatever game I think will be 932 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: there for Notre Dame on offense. 933 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 1: Who's throwing it? It doesn't matter at this. 934 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 2: Point, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. We don't 935 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 2: have to label a quarterback at Notre Dame. We can 936 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,439 Speaker 2: have eight who cares. Okay, the opportunity will be there 937 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 2: for Notre Dame in the passing game. More importantly, I 938 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: think for Notre Dame's receivers to get in some quotality reps. 939 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm most interested in whether these kids could get open, 940 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 2: whether they can catch. They've had such a problem this 941 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 2: year with drops. Kevin Austin, who is a physical specimen, 942 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 2: seems like you should be this go to receiver or 943 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 2: really game breaking type wide. 944 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: Out, can't catch. He's dropped like ten percent of his passes. 945 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: So who's the go to Avery Davis? 946 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 2: I think it's Avery Davis is probably the most sure 947 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 2: handed receiver outside of Michael Mayer is the go to guy, 948 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 2: but he's been banged up and even he's had some 949 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: trouble with drops this year, more than you would expect. 950 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 2: But Avery Davis has at least been sure handed. That's 951 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 2: more than you can say for Kevin Austin, more than 952 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: you can say for Braden Lindsay. But I'm curious to 953 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: see what kind of reps the receivers can get here. 954 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 2: I'm also very interested in what the offensive line looks like, 955 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 2: because this should be a prime opportunity for the line 956 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 2: to get a push and get the ground game back 957 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: on track. It's not a good USC front. There's not 958 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,320 Speaker 2: great as a unit up front. They have play, but 959 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 2: they're not great as a team up front. I would 960 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: hope that they would continue building on some of the 961 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 2: momentum that I think they started in that Virginia Tech game. 962 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago. 963 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: I would expect a big effort on the ground for 964 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 2: Kyraen Williams, Chris Tyree, and hopefully a game that we 965 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 2: come out on the flip side saying the line actually 966 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 2: looked pretty good. Line looked better against the USC team 967 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,959 Speaker 2: that is just not good in the front seven. 968 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 1: Is there like a line change like in hockey, A 969 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: other five new guys coming in? Man, I don't know. 970 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 971 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 2: It felt like in that Tech game things were moving 972 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 2: in a good direction. I would be very disappointed if 973 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 2: we came out on the flip side of this game 974 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 2: and said they didn't look good against USC, because USC 975 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: just not. 976 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: Good up front. 977 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 2: So long story short, I won't drone on too long. 978 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 2: We have many other games to discuss here, and the 979 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 2: show's already getting along on the tooth. 980 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: But it's good. It's fine. 981 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins thirty four to twenty something like that. 982 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 2: USC scores, but they can't keep pace with Notre Dame. 983 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: What's the what is the line at the moment? Favorite? Yeah, 984 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna take Notre Dame here. The thing that 985 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: is concerning to me, and it's situational. I suppose is 986 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 1: USC has played better away from home, and maybe that's 987 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: just more of a distraction free environment. You saw them 988 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: go down now it's Wazoo and Colorado. I get it. 989 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: But they go down early to Wazoo and then they 990 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: just put it on with Jackson Dart who is hurt 991 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,360 Speaker 1: and not playing this week for USC, and Colorado is 992 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: in abomination. They're terrible, But maybe there's an element to 993 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: that where it's a closer first half and Notre Dame 994 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: ultimately wins this game. The thing that's fascinating to me 995 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: about Notre Dame and I know their opponents, right, it's Cincinnati, 996 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: it's Wisconsin. Even Perdue has a really good defensive front 997 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: led by like an All American caliber George Carloftis is 998 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: relative to talent on hand, Notre Dame might be the 999 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: worst rushing team in the country right relative to the 1000 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: recruiting talent, relative to having Kyron Williams and Chris Tyree. 1001 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 1: Notre Dame might be the worst rushing team in the country. 1002 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 2: Relative to preseason expectations. Their relative to recent performance, there 1003 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: is definitely a gap. Yeah, because this offense was going 1004 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 2: to be led by the ground attack. We read all 1005 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,399 Speaker 2: throughout the preseason. Tommy Reese is going to figure out 1006 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 2: how to get Kyron Williams and Chris Tyree in the 1007 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 2: same backfield at the same time. They're gonna wait for 1008 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 2: that running game to power them through until the passing 1009 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: game figures itself out with Jack Cone or Tyler Buckner, 1010 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 2: Drew Pye whoever. It's kind of been reverse of that. 1011 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 2: The line has been very shaky. They've won with defense, 1012 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 2: They've won with Jack Cone mostly I guess, yeah, making 1013 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 2: timely passes. 1014 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1015 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 2: So, long story short, if the ground game can put 1016 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 2: itself together, that would be great moving forward. I don't 1017 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: know if it happens, how much stock you could really 1018 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 2: put in it, because again, USC is not good at 1019 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: stopping to run. So look, long story short, I got 1020 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty. We can talk about more. Talk 1021 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: about this more on Sunday, right, I've got Notre Dame winning. 1022 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 2: I think it's a good matchup for them. Man. 1023 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: Some of these like deep dive numbers, Kyron Williams running 1024 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 1: outside the tackles and where they've had like a third 1025 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: string left tackle at times one point six yards per carry, 1026 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 1: Chris Tyree two point four? 1027 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 2: Whoa not getting out ahead? All right, let's go rapid fire. 1028 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of other games here that I 1029 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 2: just want to call out. Let's just a quick quip 1030 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 2: or two about these games. Dan Quick sure high new 1031 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,240 Speaker 2: in ESPN two Cincinnati minus four touchdowns on the road 1032 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: at Navy. If we go with our brother Paul, who 1033 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 2: wanted to go second ranks slip up Saturday. A lot 1034 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: of alliteration there. I'm comfortable using that name, just not 1035 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 2: widely because Navy's projected to go one and eleven. 1036 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: They're not a good team. Yeah. I think Cincinnati comfortably 1037 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: wins this game. I really do, especially considering the ways 1038 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 1: that their offense is growing. I really like watching Jerome 1039 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: Ford and Cincinnati has been great against the run. That 1040 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: seems like a really mandatory part of a team to 1041 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: to beat Navy comfortably. 1042 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 2: Twelve noon, CBS Sports Network, Wake Forest minus three and 1043 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,320 Speaker 2: a half at Army an interesting matchup here, Dan Wake 1044 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 2: is now up to number sixteen in the polls, but 1045 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 2: only a three and a half point favorite on the 1046 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 2: road in West Point. Army, for what it's worth, hung 1047 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 2: with Wisconsin last week, and it also looks like the 1048 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 2: sharps some of the pro betters are on Army in 1049 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,479 Speaker 2: this game. I suppose. I suppose the obvious reason why 1050 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 2: is that Wake is terrible against the run, and that's 1051 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 2: just what Army does. They're not even great at it. 1052 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 2: Army as a running team as compared to previous Army 1053 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 2: teams is not even a good rushing team from Army right, 1054 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 2: But it is a good matchup for them in this game. 1055 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: It also looks like it could be damp and a 1056 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 2: little windy and rainy and overcast. 1057 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,080 Speaker 1: What say you, I'm gonna go Wake here, I'm gonna 1058 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: go again to The thing that worries me about Wake 1059 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 1: is that defense doesn't get off the field and you 1060 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: can continually move the chains against Wake. But Army also 1061 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: their own defense struggles against the pass, which is how 1062 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: Wake Forest is winning games, I'm gonna go with Wake here. Army. Also, 1063 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: if you're a body blow believer coming off of the 1064 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: Wisconsin game that was quite physical and in the trenches, 1065 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna go with Wake here. I hate it. 1066 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: I understand the Army pick, but I'm under thinking it, 1067 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go with the team with the better 1068 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: quarterback and the favorable matchup to me. If Army is 1069 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: not running the ball as consistently as they should be, 1070 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: I'll go with Wake here. Twenty four to twenty one. 1071 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: Somebody wins, give me the points. Okay. 1072 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 2: Twelve o'clock high noon f S one Kansas State at 1073 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Texas Tech favored by. 1074 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,879 Speaker 1: One or two. No idea what to make you either 1075 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: of these teams? Dan Texas Tech doesn't make teams on offense, 1076 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: so when their opponent has the ball, they don't make 1077 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: them uncomfortable. This is one of the absolute worst pass 1078 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: rushes in the country. So I think Kansas State's going 1079 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: to be a lot more comfortable. So this is where 1080 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 1: the lack of squirm, the lack of squeam comes into 1081 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: play for me. And it's in Lubbock, correct, It is 1082 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: in Lubbock. Yeah, that worries me a little bit, but 1083 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: the line indicates that there's not all that much confidence 1084 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: in this Texas Tech offense to sort of do what 1085 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,479 Speaker 1: other teams have done to Kansas State. So I'm gonna 1086 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 1: go with the Cats here. 1087 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm also gonna go with the Cats. They do not 1088 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 2: have a conference win yet the season. They are Due 1089 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: and Texas Tech every time I feel like I like 1090 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 2: them a little as I did when I started previewing 1091 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 2: this game. They letting me down, So let's go the 1092 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 2: other way. 1093 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the offense has been nice. The offense 1094 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: has been nice. But I think douce vand will have 1095 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: a really nice game. I think that will travel against 1096 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 1: the Red Raiders. 1097 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 2: Three o'clock Big ten Network, Wisconsin minus three points on 1098 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 2: the road at perdude. 1099 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: And so. 1100 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 2: Interesting situation here. Perdue is basically playing the same game 1101 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 2: as a week. 1102 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 1: Ago, aren't they. I mean, I think Iowa was better 1103 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: than Wisconsin, but yeah. 1104 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 2: Wisconsin and Iowa are sort of like identical cousins played 1105 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 2: by Paddy Duke. 1106 00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: What a reference. 1107 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going Purdue. Give me Purdue again two weeks 1108 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,280 Speaker 2: in a row. 1109 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: So Wisconsin's a little bit tough to figure out. So 1110 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 1: their losses this year were short, ugly, low scoring against 1111 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,319 Speaker 1: Penn State, Notre Dame runs away with it late with interceptions, 1112 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 1: pick six whatever, and Michigan comfortably at the same time. 1113 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: But there were injuries to what Graham Mertz and there 1114 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: was somebody else that got beat up in that game 1115 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 1: for Wisconsin. So I don't know, I get the injuries. 1116 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: They blank Illinois, they still to me have a very 1117 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 1: very good defense, and armies sort of a slog what 1118 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: they win that game scoring twenty points. It's a huge 1119 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: letdown spot for Purdue. I know that does worry me. 1120 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 1: It's enormous yep. And I think Wisconsin is good enough 1121 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: to ugly this game up and slowly but surely win it. 1122 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: But I still think the best thing in this game 1123 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: is Wisconsin's defense, agreed, and so all it takes for 1124 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: Wisconsin on the road, and I believe defense and effort 1125 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: travels and that Purdue will have Wisconsin's attention right now. 1126 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: And I did note, by the way, Purdue has not 1127 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: won at home against Wisconsin since nineteen ninety seven. Ninety seven, 1128 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: that was my freshman year in high school. Tie it 1129 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 1: dates me. I looked up the obviously, I had to 1130 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 1: look up the box office movies here, the nineteen ninety 1131 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: seven in October, when when you last one at home 1132 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: against Wisconsin's like La Confidential, The Devil Wears Prada, like 1133 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: Real Real Weld. I cannot believe it's been that long 1134 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: since those movies, but man, it's been a minute. I 1135 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: think Wisconsin wins this game. Seventeen thirteen. We're still like 1136 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: two weeks out from Perdue losing at home to a 1137 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota team that has been crazy all over the place. 1138 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: Beat Yuah on offense especially, But it's not as if 1139 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: Purdue has week to week shown themselves to be above average, good, dangerous. 1140 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 1: They are at their best. They held tight with Notre Dame, 1141 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: they beat Iowa, but it's not at Purdue team. I 1142 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: don't I think you can count on week two weeks. 1143 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Wisconsin here on that defense. 1144 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: But what can you count on in this crazy world? 1145 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 2: Give me Perdue plus the points, I don't know whatever. Okay, 1146 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 2: home dog three thirty FS one BYU. On the road 1147 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 2: at Washington State, they're favored by three and a half. 1148 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 2: Wazuo going through a lot right now, kind of tumultuous situation, 1149 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 2: to put it kindly, Yeah, I don't have a great 1150 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 2: reason to go against BYU here given the circumstances, So 1151 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 2: I gotta go to. 1152 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: Coogle, right, Yeah, it's an interesting matchup aside from the 1153 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: off field stuff that Wazoo's pass defense has been considerably stronger, 1154 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: especially at limiting those bigger plays, which is where BYU 1155 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: has really shined. This game is what did you say 1156 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: this game was? It's in Pullman. It's in Pullman. So 1157 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: BYU a second straight road game, right, yep? Because they 1158 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: were in Man. I'm gonna go with Wazoo with a 1159 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: bounce here. I don't know, all right, I mean, with 1160 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: e motion on their side, I think for the better. 1161 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: I think that will galvanize. I don't know, we'll see. 1162 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: It's just a weird situation to go either way. I'm 1163 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: gonna go with Wazoo. They've been playing football more importantly, 1164 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: the defense, you know, played really well against Cal they 1165 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: pull out the game. Yeah, I think they're gonna keep 1166 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: riding this way at home. All right, I'll go BYU. 1167 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 2: Let's go to three thirty ESPN two Maryland on the 1168 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 2: road at Minnesota. Minnesota favored by five. Yeah, I don't 1169 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 2: get Minnesota at all. This is two years running now 1170 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 2: where Minnesota has been supremely interesting to me, and I 1171 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 2: have no idea what is coming from week to week. 1172 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 2: So five points, I'll be honest. Five points feels like 1173 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 2: a lot here. But they've only got two losses. It 1174 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 2: seems as if they are improving. Maryland I thought would 1175 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,480 Speaker 2: be better, but Maryland's had their own issues with injury, 1176 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 2: particularly out wide. I just don't want to lay five 1177 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 2: points in this game, I hear you, So I'm gonna 1178 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 2: go Maryland plus the points, even though I think Minnesota wins. 1179 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Sure you think it's gonna be 1180 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,439 Speaker 1: a close win. Last year a wild game that ends 1181 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: with a missed extra point winning the game from Maryland. 1182 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,439 Speaker 1: So it's a revenge spot for Minnesota if you take 1183 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: out the Bowling Green game, which you shouldn't, but if 1184 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: you do, Minnesota's year looks a little bit different in 1185 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: that they beat Nebraska, they beat Purdue, which are not 1186 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: crazy impressive, but they're nice if you are a decent team, 1187 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: those are nice wins in retrospect. I'm gonna roll with 1188 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Minnesota here. I don't trust Maryland. 1189 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: The mistake prone nature of this Maryland offense at times 1190 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: it worries me. Minnesota got healthier with Chris Hopman Bell. 1191 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jackson miss last week, but Tanner Morgan 1192 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: was on point. I think they're building something respectable. And yes, Ty, 1193 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: you know it's brick by brick, you know Minnesota. Yeah, yeah, 1194 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with sky. You mon give me the Ghosts. 1195 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 2: Three thirty CBS, LSU on the road at Ole, miss Ole, 1196 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 2: miss favored by ten here. I am on Elisu plus 1197 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 2: the points. So I think emotional situation, playing for a 1198 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 2: lame duck. I think they should be able to run 1199 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 2: the ball. We saw them have a lot of success 1200 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 2: against Florida, who's got a much better defense against a 1201 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 2: ground attack. And if they can do that again, it 1202 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 2: helps them control the game, control the clock, maybe control 1203 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 2: the scoring in here. So can they do what they 1204 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 2: did against Florida? Yeah, they can play that same game style. 1205 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm also a little bit concerned about Matt Corral Yeah. 1206 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: I saw those quotes. Yeah, Lane Kiffin quote. 1207 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 2: He's not in very good shape and hasn't been for 1208 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 2: the last two days. Hopefully he'll play, but I do 1209 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 2: not feel good about that right now. So if Corral 1210 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 2: is out, and you know, given the fact that LSU 1211 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 2: I think has an emotional situation, they're finding their way 1212 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 2: a little bit on the ground. Ten points is a lot, man, 1213 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go LSU. 1214 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm going LS as well. The quarterback injury combined with 1215 01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: the fact that ole Miss's defense, especially up front, I 1216 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: don't know, LSU seems to be running the ball. They 1217 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: seem to be making fewer mistakes. I know how beat 1218 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 1: up there on defense, but if they're relying on a 1219 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: green quarterback with that defense, it's not a great combination. 1220 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: To mean, I think ole Miss still pulls it out 1221 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 1: just because I trust Lane Kiffen a little bit more 1222 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: than where LSU's coaching staff is right now, of course, 1223 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: But no, I think it's gonna be tight emotional game. 1224 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Give me a double letdown situation. I'm gonna take the points. 1225 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 2: Seven o'clock ESPN Tennessee at Bama. The rivalry, Yeah, Bama 1226 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 2: favored by twenty eight zombie Alabama. Dan, This line is 1227 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 2: too high. It doesn't make sense, but it doesn't have to. 1228 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, when Bama gets a taste of its 1229 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 2: own blood under Nick Saban right minus whatever, give me Alabama. 1230 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,919 Speaker 1: I'm going to Alabama as well here, especially since Hendon 1231 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: Hooker's health is a question at this point. We saw 1232 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Joe Milton come in and the last I saw from 1233 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Josh Hypel was it's not a long term thing. We'll 1234 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,440 Speaker 1: see tells me it's a short term thing, which I 1235 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: don't love going against Alabama and the pop that they've 1236 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: shown on offense lately. And I like Tennessee fine, but 1237 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: I think Alabama is getting into a rhythm on offense. 1238 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Will Anderson is wreaking complete havoc right now, and that 1239 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: combination is is worrisome to me. I'm gonna go with 1240 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: the tide here. 1241 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: Big does it need to make sense? The line does 1242 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 2: not need to make sense when zombie Alabama gets the 1243 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 2: taste of its own blood. Four more games, very quickly. 1244 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 2: Seven thirty ESPN two. NC State minus three and a 1245 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: half on the road at Miami. I do not get 1246 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 2: this point spread at all. But give me NC State. 1247 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 2: I will wade ever so cautiously into the deep dark 1248 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 2: cave that is the point spread of this game. Because 1249 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 2: NC State went to Boston College, they won resoundingly. Yes, 1250 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 2: That told me everything I needed to know that this 1251 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 2: team has the mental makeup. This team is the players, 1252 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 2: a consistency, What have you to win in a tough 1253 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 2: road spot, which I think that was Miami feels like 1254 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 2: they're floundering, feels like they're spiraling out of control. They've 1255 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 2: got injuries, perhaps their coach on the hot seat as well. 1256 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Three and a half. 1257 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 2: They should be favored by more than three and a half, 1258 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 2: so I don't get it. I'm gonna go n C 1259 01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 2: State and on Sunday when we record, we can talk 1260 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 2: about why I was wrong. 1261 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: Sure, No, I'm with you. I need something to like 1262 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: and how beat up Miami is on offense obviously, especially 1263 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: at quarterback. And NC State's defense has been so good 1264 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: at getting off the field that they're the defense that 1265 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 1: is the squirm and scheam defense of the way for me, 1266 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,920 Speaker 1: just because Miami's offense has been all over the place, 1267 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: They've lost guys to transfer, injury, and NC State just 1268 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: seems locked in. Now. I get why there's the uncertainty 1269 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: around this spread, but I'm just NC State's defense is 1270 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: they're what I can count on and I still worry about, 1271 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, Miami's offensive line has been giving up sacks 1272 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,400 Speaker 1: toot like I just I don't. I don't trust them. 1273 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: So I'm going to NC State here, who I think 1274 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: is another beneficiary of what was it? The man with 1275 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: one eye is King and the land of the blind, 1276 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,919 Speaker 1: the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. 1277 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: That's my that's my NC State and ACC. Take that. 1278 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,919 Speaker 1: NC State and PIT are Are they on a collision course? 1279 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: They're on separate sides right an NC State pit and 1280 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: this means nothing. I'm just asking you the question. NC 1281 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 1: State PIT ACC Championship game? Is that going to rival 1282 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 1: the depths of where PAC twelve ratings have been to 1283 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: the lowest rated And I will happily watch it. Can 1284 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 1: he Pickett throwing into the NC State defense will be fascinating. 1285 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: I will set aside my day to watch that game 1286 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: because I think it'll be great. But man, if you 1287 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: are the ACC office, maybe not the most thrilling end too. 1288 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 2: This year, Duke's Mayo is going to turnover sponsorship to 1289 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 2: Hellman's or one of their competitors for that one. 1290 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, that's all I have. 1291 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 2: Ohio State at Indiana seven thirty ABC. Ohio State favored 1292 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 2: by nineteen. 1293 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 1: Dan block of the week. 1294 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 2: I think Indiana stinks and Ohio State's getting better. 1295 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 1: That's my logic. 1296 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,240 Speaker 2: Ohio State might win this one by forty two points in. 1297 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,919 Speaker 1: A world where you don't have a lot to count 1298 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 1: on time. Indiana not getting to like sixteen points and 1299 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 1: being able to cover a spread against maybe the best 1300 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 1: offense in college football is one of those things that 1301 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 1: you could just sink your emotional Okay, Ohio State big here. 1302 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't trust Indiana. It's on the road, which I 1303 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: don't love, but it's also Indiana gave Michigan State all 1304 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 1: it had and it wasn't much Ohio State and that 1305 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: speed and coming off of a bye week, Am I 1306 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: not mistaken? 1307 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 3: Right? 1308 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,320 Speaker 1: Is that is correct? Yeah? Yeah, give me Ohio State 1309 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,919 Speaker 1: here forty five to thirteen. 1310 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 2: And finally seven thirty actually not finally got one more 1311 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 2: after this seven thirty pac twelve. Utah minus three and 1312 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 2: a half on the road at Oregon State. Utah has 1313 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 2: been a different team since going with cam Rising, been 1314 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 2: a different team. I know Oregon State is plucky, but 1315 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,919 Speaker 2: I like the cut of Utah's jib right now. I'm 1316 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 2: feeling the utes here, even though later game, you know, 1317 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 2: tough place to play in Corvallis, But let's go Utah. 1318 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 1: Wasn't I mean you're now ignoring the PAC twelve after 1319 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: dark track RECs after dark. It's seven thirty so you 1320 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: said later game. Oh it's seventh. Okay, that's not bad, 1321 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: are we sure? Okay? So it's a four to thirty 1322 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Pack twelve network kickoff? All right? I like Utah here. 1323 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: You know, Cam Rising's first half last week concerned me 1324 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 1: a little bit against ASU, but a team that finished 1325 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 1: as strong as a team I can get on board with. 1326 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: And so yeah, Utah over Oregon State. Oregon State's defense 1327 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: and especially ability to make cam Rising squeam squeam squirm 1328 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: doesn't do much for me. I think Utah will handle 1329 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: Oregon State's pretty smart offense here. But yeah, I'm gonna 1330 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: go Utah. Here go the Utes on the road and 1331 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: the final game. 1332 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 2: I did want to call out even though it's a 1333 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 2: Wednesday night game, so as some of you are listening 1334 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 2: to this may already have reached conusion. But Wednesday, seven 1335 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 2: thirty Eastern ESPN, we've got Coastal Carolina minus three and 1336 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 2: a half on the road at app State. Dan. 1337 01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good matchup. Hell of a matchup. Yeah, hell 1338 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 1: of a matchup. Even though app State was less than 1339 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: good last week midweek, I think Coast Carolina rips them 1340 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: limb from limb. But if you're listening to this after 1341 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: the fact and or lose this game and or win close, yeah, 1342 01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 1: I like Coastal big hair. Coastal has been a machine. 1343 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,639 Speaker 1: The Coastal has been like the prime example of having 1344 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 1: everything back and building on and maintaining focus and locking in. 1345 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,920 Speaker 1: They're an incredibly difficult team to prepare for with that 1346 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: like hybrid option offense, and Grayson McCall has been pinpoint. 1347 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 1: It's just they're a really, really tough team to take 1348 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 1: down and even stay close close with. And I don't 1349 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,880 Speaker 1: think app State has it right now, So yeah, give 1350 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: me Coastal comfortably. 1351 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Grayson McCall, by the way, is completing about eighty percent 1352 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:01,679 Speaker 2: of his passes. 1353 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 1: He saw that pinpoint is to say the least, and 1354 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 1: he's got a fourteen to one touchdown interception ratio. We 1355 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,799 Speaker 1: talked about the Anya before, right adjusted net yards per attempt, 1356 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 1: and if dju is about four and a half and 1357 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is about ten and a half, Grayson McCall's 1358 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 1: at fifteen, so dude knows how to air it out. 1359 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,120 Speaker 1: They've got a great offense. Reese White has been great 1360 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: on the ground, So I think I'm with you. I 1361 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: think Coastal wins this one big. We haven't talked a 1362 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: lot about Coastal, no, and I hope we get to 1363 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,760 Speaker 1: some more, because the genius of that offense is you know, 1364 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 1: you always see that like okay, Navy and Army and 1365 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: Air Force are completing those passes downfield because so much 1366 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: attention is paid to the option game and run fits 1367 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 1: and making sure you have the right making sure the 1368 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,680 Speaker 1: right guy and the getting the right call in and 1369 01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: it generates those bigger pass plays. Coastal has been hitting 1370 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: on those. They've worked that into their consistent offense that 1371 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: you have to pay so so much attention to the 1372 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 1: run game and that option at time and what they're 1373 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 1: able to do on the ground that they are just 1374 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: they're in such a nice rhythm on offense. Now, I 1375 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: haven't sat and watched play to play to play, I've 1376 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 1: skimmed through some of their bigger games more quickly, but 1377 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,439 Speaker 1: damn if that if that offense gets going at somewhere 1378 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger. 1379 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 2: Yep, they're fun man, the number one offense in the 1380 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 2: country in terms of success rate. 1381 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 1: I get it, very good, very good. 1382 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 2: That is all I have Dan on week eight, I 1383 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 2: don't know if we settled on our labeling for this week. 1384 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 2: We will leave it to our trusted for baller hood 1385 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 2: to come up with whatever S word or S label 1386 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,879 Speaker 2: works the best for them in their current life situation. 1387 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 2: But we will be back again, of course, as infidelities. 1388 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,440 Speaker 2: Screaming infidelities. I'm screaming. 1389 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I don't like the word. I know 1390 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: it's not a great word. I don't know. I don't 1391 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: have a problem with moist because I just associate moist 1392 01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 1: with baked goods. But I understand those who immediately go elsewhere. 1393 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a word. I can tell 1394 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,640 Speaker 1: you the other word that I've heard women specifically do 1395 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,679 Speaker 1: not like. And this is a totally g rated word, 1396 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,600 Speaker 1: so don't worry. I don't need to say sound to 1397 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: a family show. I have learned women don't like the 1398 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:22,679 Speaker 1: word panty. Have you heard that panty or pan? Tease? 1399 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 2: I say it like that, people, What is that accent 1400 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 2: that you're using right now? 1401 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,839 Speaker 1: Panties. I don't know. It's an affected like Northeastern something. 1402 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 1: So that's I guess sqeam does it for you. Squeam 1403 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 1: makes you squeamish. Just in other notes. By the way, 1404 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: UNLB is going for their first win since twenty nineteen 1405 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: in this week of San Jose State, which is disappointed 1406 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. That's Thursday night. Penn State is hosting Illinois. Yep. 1407 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Illinois repulama comment and how none 1408 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 1: of their offensive linemen were recruited by the nineteen twenty 1409 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: or twenty one classes. But it is a look ahead 1410 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 1: spot for Penn State with Ohio State, whatever that means 1411 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: to you. Syracuse at Virginia Tech. You know, I'm on 1412 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: the QS train. Yeah, but it's not at the carrier though. 1413 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,559 Speaker 1: San Diego State, which is a weird uneven six and oh, 1414 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 1: but six and oh nonetheless is at air Force, Who's 1415 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: five and one. I think that's interesting to me. It's 1416 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 1: a nice week in the Mountain West, and that's also 1417 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 1: highlighted by Nevada at five and one with one of 1418 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 1: the better quarterbacks in the country and Carson Strong taking 1419 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: on Fresno with one of the better quarterbacks in the country. 1420 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 1: With Jake Hayner at five and two, it's a really 1421 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: nice win. Maybe it's Summitt the Mountain Saturday, because the 1422 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 1: Mountain West is bringing it this week. So I would 1423 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 1: watch the Mountain West football. If you are bored with 1424 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,719 Speaker 1: some of the Power five play, just venture into Mountain 1425 01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,599 Speaker 1: West territory because there's a beak some mount West football. 1426 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 1: Put on your boots and watch the Mountain West football. Otherwise, 1427 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: if you could just drop some big stanky and I'm 1428 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 1: just sticking with big stanky drum and fife quickly, Daniel. 1429 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 3: Only three games to discuss here in the Patriot League 1430 01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 3: will start in Lewisbourg Saturday, one pm ESPN plus Georgetown 1431 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 3: at Bucknell. 1432 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 2: You know, I go Georgetown, Dan, You going Nelli's, of course, 1433 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,720 Speaker 2: I am going Nelly's away from home as you always. 1434 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to Well, yeah, I just don't trust the 1435 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 1: Nelly's at all. 1436 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 2: Moving on, let's go to another one pm Patriot League affair, 1437 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 2: also an ESPN plus Lehigh at Fordham Lee High Dead 1438 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 2: to me give me the rams. 1439 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 1: Is there somebody in like West Orange or as they say, 1440 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 1: there West Orange Orange who has made a ton of 1441 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 1: money betting against Lehigh on some sort of off off 1442 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: Vegas sportsbook. Is there a line for Lehigh games that 1443 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: has made, like Bill in West Orange, a ton of 1444 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: I hope so Lehi's very back. 1445 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 2: Give me the Rams, gotta go Rams, and finally the 1446 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:46,599 Speaker 2: vaunted one thirty game. 1447 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Take the music down. 1448 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 2: Here, we've got Colegate, the Gators on the road at 1449 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 2: the Crosssaders, Dan, who you got. 1450 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 1: Holy Cross the class of the conference. It's not even close. 1451 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 1: Don't trust the Gators. Give me the cross Aders, big 1452 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,639 Speaker 1: and hopeful. I don't have Bill C does FCS SP 1453 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 1: plus Well, there's a lot of letters right there are 1454 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: the Cross Aiders in the top thirty forty. I have 1455 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 1: absolutely no ideabt if they make some noise. I hope 1456 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,200 Speaker 1: they make some noise in the FCS playoffs, if they're 1457 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: able to sort of dominate the pat League continually. 1458 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 2: You know, I put in parentheses behind this game that 1459 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 2: they were playing it in Fenway Park in hopes of 1460 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 2: maybe catching you off guard and fooling you. But you 1461 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 2: didn't take the bait. 1462 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: No, I was thinking about it. It seems far away 1463 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 1: for Holy Cross from I don't know where's Worcester, mass 1464 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,960 Speaker 1: it's a couple hours away, right. 1465 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 2: Never know though, big matchup, historic matchup here between Colgate. 1466 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: And Also I believe the Red Sox are playing the 1467 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Astros right now, and I don't know if they're transforming 1468 01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: that stadium for a Patrio League matchup. They're going to 1469 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 1: move the Red Sox over to holy Cross ic IC 1470 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,639 Speaker 1: A nice swapper across town exchange if you will, because 1471 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 1: of Holy Cross. That's it. That does it, folks. 1472 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,200 Speaker 2: For the week eight preview show, don't forget. If you're 1473 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 2: oot in the boat and if you're out there on 1474 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 2: the roads, listen to our friend Stevie speed Run, Steve Hartzel, 1475 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 2: Steven Hartzell, my god, the best. It's the Red Zone 1476 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 2: channel for college football. Starts Saturday at noon Eastern on 1477 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 2: ESPN New Radio serious XM channel eighty four, or you 1478 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 2: could always listen to the Varsity Network app as I 1479 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 2: have the last couple Saturdays. It is live whip around 1480 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 2: coverage every game in the top twenty five. You can 1481 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 2: hear the scoring as it happens, as called by each 1482 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 2: team's hometown radio crew. They don't do a whole lot 1483 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 2: of commercial breaks either, just three per hour, which means 1484 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 2: you get fifty six minutes of live play by play 1485 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 2: last week. I was listening a little bit too. I 1486 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 2: think it was John Laser. It's a real person's name. 1487 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,200 Speaker 2: Bill Macky is the commentator for Virginia Tech. I wish 1488 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 2: I had a name like John Laser. Yeah, but all 1489 01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,759 Speaker 2: of your favorites. As you're out and about on the roadways, 1490 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 2: listen to your hometown commentary, as scoring and as big 1491 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 2: moments happened. 1492 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Did he pronounce his name? Is that how you learned it? 1493 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Or like, did Stephen pronounce his name? Stephen said John Laser. Okay, 1494 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,000 Speaker 1: so he probably knows. He does his due diligence. I 1495 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: would just be disappointed if he got on the air and. 1496 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:21,120 Speaker 2: Was like, actually, it's las Are las yea lasere. If 1497 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 2: it's it, Look, if I'm wrong, it's Stephen Hartzel's fault. 1498 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 1: I have a not so secret verbal Okay, Oh, I 1499 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,439 Speaker 1: want you to tweet at ty Hilden t y T 1500 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 1: y h I l d E n b r A 1501 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 1: n d T. I want you to tweet him the 1502 01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 1: single word that makes the woman or women in your 1503 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,719 Speaker 1: life the most uncomfortable. That's what I want. I wanted. 1504 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 1: I want a selection can't be moist, it can't be panty. 1505 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 1: But got him like eleven years old. I want you 1506 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 1: to tweet him. If there's a word that makes the 1507 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,600 Speaker 1: woman or women in your life, you can be a man, 1508 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: you can. I'm going to get some very interesting replies here, 1509 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 1: aren't I If you are a woman, if you know women, 1510 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 1: whatever it is, I want the word that makes you 1511 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:11,680 Speaker 1: most uncomfortable to say around a woman or women in 1512 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 1: your life, or to just hear. That's all. That's what 1513 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:16,760 Speaker 1: I want. We are there any other ones? You don't 1514 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 1: know what? Kate's word is, her unsafe word as it were. 1515 01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:27,560 Speaker 2: That does it for make tie squirm Saturday? We appreciate 1516 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,240 Speaker 2: you downloading, listening, playing along at home. Don't forget for 1517 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 2: ballers dot com as the patreon. 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Do you want one. 1527 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:09,480 Speaker 2: Prolapse for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 1528 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 2: for myself, Tie, Hilda Brand. Thank you again so much 1529 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 2: for downloading, for listening, for supporting the show. We will 1530 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 2: be back after week eight. In the meantime, enjoy your 1531 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 2: week and weekend in space off peace.