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Speaker 1: In the final regular season episode of twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: did you finish off the Golden Grounds? Uh? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: get upstairs, Yeah, lays Golden Grounds. Golden Grounds man don't
Speaker 1: win you a bag because there's only like five that
Speaker 1: they're giving away. Wow, five by whom by lays? Oh
Speaker 1: I believe so. I thought it was like two hundred
Speaker 1: they made two hundred that they're giving away five, or
Speaker 1: maybe the Cowboys are getting I don't think I wont
Speaker 1: i tweeted at them, I didn't get anything back. You
Speaker 1: didn't win. I don't think so. Goodness, I put my
Speaker 1: name in a hat, but that's probably you already tasted
Speaker 1: the golden ground. I did taste the golden ground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had the nice crunch last week and they were delish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but how's everybody doing? Is the recovery set in yet? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: His sunken already. It is sunken like Quicksand I don't know,
Speaker 1: it feels very like like a freaking funeral around this part.
Speaker 1: Man disappointment. I get it, I get it. Man sucks.
Speaker 1: It's always like this on a Monday after a loss.
Speaker 1: But I think you got to multiply it by ten
Speaker 1: yep this week and yeah, missed opportunity. Yeah really, I mean,
Speaker 1: as good as they've had in years, you don't get
Speaker 1: them back. No, And you only get so many tries
Speaker 1: at a super Bowl, and you only get so many
Speaker 1: tries in the playoffs to even get that direction, and
Speaker 1: the fact that you're not there it is. It's disappointing. Heck.
Speaker 1: But if you had one word to describe the way
Speaker 1: that cowboys feel cowboys, it has to be a clean word.
Speaker 1: It has to be radio radio friend out commas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to get me about it here right now.
Speaker 1: Radio friendly. One word to describe how Cowboys Nation is
Speaker 1: feeling right now, oh down, it just sucks. This is
Speaker 1: this is pretty bad on the level. I mean, you
Speaker 1: you thought you had everything going this season, you thought
Speaker 1: you had all the pieces, um, and it didn't come together.
Speaker 1: And after going back and watching the game again, we
Speaker 1: were never even close in that game. And you know
Speaker 1: what Jerry said it after the game in the tunnel
Speaker 1: that the score was not indicative of the beat doo. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: in so many words, No, I wasn't close, kind of
Speaker 1: like Arizona. Arizona, that game came down at the very end.
Speaker 1: But the better team that day clearly was the road team.
Speaker 1: I mean but even when I look at the Arizona
Speaker 1: team the game last night, I was saying to myself,
Speaker 1: how much different would it have been if they had Hopkins?
Speaker 1: You know, how much more of that offense was just
Speaker 1: cut off because now the Rams just had to concentrate
Speaker 1: on the guys that they had a just coming down
Speaker 1: to stretch. If you don't have all of your guys,
Speaker 1: it affects the way that you play and that's just
Speaker 1: that's just it, and that's that's the killer about this
Speaker 1: team right here, is that we heard for weeks and
Speaker 1: it was a fact like while a lot of teams
Speaker 1: were getting depleted and decimated by injuries, yes it was
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were getting healthier, as healthy as you could
Speaker 1: possibly ask for. Count O'Neill was inactive for that game.
Speaker 1: Beyond that, Michael gallops on ir, a couple other guys
Speaker 1: beyond that, that was a healthy football team. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're expected to have some sort of injuries. But if
Speaker 1: you're telling me that key On O'Neill and Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: were the absolute difference in the way that offense looked,
Speaker 1: in the way that they were unable to stop the run,
Speaker 1: I would disagree with you. I don't think they would
Speaker 1: have made that big of a difference because, like Heckma
Speaker 1: just said, you were dominated through the first three and
Speaker 1: a half quarters. It took you fifty nine minutes, sir, Now,
Speaker 1: maybe a little less than that, maybe fifty minutes of
Speaker 1: that football game to finally wake up and realize what
Speaker 1: the stakes were, that it was winner, go home, and
Speaker 1: it took too long for them to realize and ultimately
Speaker 1: that was the difference between being a playoff winner and
Speaker 1: a playoff loser. But I just want to find out
Speaker 1: what are we going to do with Theamark Cooper. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be very important. How are we going
Speaker 1: to go forward with the weapons that we have, because
Speaker 1: he is legit a weapon. I think we would all agree.
Speaker 1: But if we're not gonna use him, if you know
Speaker 1: the twenty million dollars that's being paid to him, I
Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that they've got to figure
Speaker 1: out how to go about that. Linebacker wise, I mean
Speaker 1: just pieces just looking at where we're going with all
Speaker 1: the names that we had on free that you read
Speaker 1: off yesterday from free agency, like how many of those
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be back? How many can you actually return?
Speaker 1: But when even after going through all of that, I
Speaker 1: guess the civil lining is, man, you gotta still have
Speaker 1: a good young squad. Will McClay, Steven Stephen Jones have
Speaker 1: put together a damn good squad. I think if you
Speaker 1: trust your draft picks, if you trust boss Man Fat
Speaker 1: to be the future at cornerback, Obviously it's maturity issues
Speaker 1: things that he's gonna have to clean up. But guys
Speaker 1: like Naean, right, what role do they play into next season? So,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a promise that you have a foundation,
Speaker 1: you have a base, and obviously with the Bazuka, you
Speaker 1: gotta just build around that. I feel as if Cowboys
Speaker 1: Nation is feeling so somber for a number of reasons,
Speaker 1: obviously not you know, showing up to putting out the
Speaker 1: performance that they that they displayed the other night, That
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't help. Then you you know, I'm pound that
Speaker 1: problem by watching the La Rams last night do what
Speaker 1: they did with their commitment to their roster, just like
Speaker 1: Dallas committed to their roster this year and their coaching staff.
Speaker 1: But they had a totally flip side showing, right, they
Speaker 1: showed up the way in which you would have hoped
Speaker 1: Dallas would have showed up. So I think that was
Speaker 1: like a double stab right there. And you had a
Speaker 1: bad showing and you watch a team that pretty much
Speaker 1: made the commitment, like like you made this year to
Speaker 1: go all in with a with a stack roster, and
Speaker 1: they showed up and balled out. So you looked at
Speaker 1: that and said that should have been the way that
Speaker 1: we that we played. So I think that's a double jab,
Speaker 1: But now the triple jab can't by by by right.
Speaker 1: The dog on Muhammad Ali tap tap tap on that
Speaker 1: forehead comes in the form of even though what you
Speaker 1: just mentioned, heckma, you have young talent coming back, even
Speaker 1: though you know that you're gonna have a good roster,
Speaker 1: maybe not as good as this year, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a solid roster going into the next year. Will
Speaker 1: McClay and his staff are gonna do a heck of
Speaker 1: a job like they always do. You're still left with
Speaker 1: that feeling of then what because this year your roster
Speaker 1: was stacked. This year you're coach staff was stacked, and
Speaker 1: its steel left you empty handed. So it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: just like you came in hype last week, you know,
Speaker 1: because of the how they ended the season at twelve
Speaker 1: to five. It doesn't matter with the regular season. The
Speaker 1: missing piece with this organization is what happens when the
Speaker 1: playoffs approach. Getting to the playoffs in stage one, but
Speaker 1: then after that there's that empty that that bubble gusts. Right,
Speaker 1: we talked about the bubblegus. You have the bubblegus when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys get to the playoffs, and that's what nobody
Speaker 1: put their finger on right now. And that's what I
Speaker 1: think is really leaving all Cowboys fans feeling uneasy. Why
Speaker 1: why is that the case? Though? But why is it
Speaker 1: that much of a disparity, Because, I mean, you should
Speaker 1: have been excited about twelve and five. You should have
Speaker 1: been excited about the way this roster was and the
Speaker 1: way that everything was. That's why Cowboys Nation was ready.
Speaker 1: And then you come out so flat in the fact
Speaker 1: that you're thirteen You're down thirteen oh before you can
Speaker 1: really even find your footing on either side of the football. Like,
Speaker 1: why is it so much of a disparity between the
Speaker 1: regular season and then of course the playoffs or is
Speaker 1: it just the factor that you can't be to good team.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a disparity, actually my opinion.
Speaker 1: I think the way they played in this game, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: is what we saw a lot of the time against
Speaker 1: better teams in the league. And I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: was a bad football team. This is a good team
Speaker 1: won twelve games, give them all the credit. But the
Speaker 1: stat about NFCS six and OZO six and six against
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL, I mean, I think that
Speaker 1: that does carry some weight. Again, it's not a bad team,
Speaker 1: but they had some problems that cropped up in the
Speaker 1: last half of the season, particularly offensively, that they never
Speaker 1: solved and it showed up in this game. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why we talked about yesterday why this game
Speaker 1: was considered a toss up, because you were playing one
Speaker 1: of the hottest teams in the NFL down the stretch
Speaker 1: went seven and two, has been to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So this was always going to be a tough game.
Speaker 1: But to your point, it's still the playoffs. It's still
Speaker 1: a home game that you earned that opportunity, and it
Speaker 1: is very deflating and disappointing to start the game the
Speaker 1: way they did and finished the game. No, it's kind
Speaker 1: of hard to argue that point, uh pee, because you
Speaker 1: look at the teams that they played with that went
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, Teams with a winning record, teams with
Speaker 1: a quote unquote top tier quarterback. How they fared. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, going in the next year, what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do is when we get the season schedule out, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say which one is a real team and which
Speaker 1: one's a fake team. Okay, So that way, when we win,
Speaker 1: we can celebrate those and when we we win versus bums,
Speaker 1: we'll say, oh that was a bum we bump checked them.
Speaker 1: So let's not over celebrate on those, right, So when
Speaker 1: we win, Chris can play the Mario. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: when it's when it's when it's a quality win. Its
Speaker 1: like in March Madness here, right, big quality resume win.
Speaker 1: Because I thought that the charges. Obviously, I thought that
Speaker 1: was a quality win. You know, you don't everyone said
Speaker 1: that Philly would win the division. I thought that was
Speaker 1: a quality win. And so look, the goalpost moves so
Speaker 1: much with Dallas Cowboy fans and the this this organization
Speaker 1: period twelve and five. Yes, Isaiah, I was happy as hell.
Speaker 1: You should you should be, you should be. No, I was.
Speaker 1: I was happy to see this team battle back from
Speaker 1: the disappointment that they had from last season. The culture
Speaker 1: was the going theme of going into this season. You
Speaker 1: made a lot about about these guys not being able
Speaker 1: to bond be together. You saw the difference that that
Speaker 1: actually made this season. The brotherhood that they had. I
Speaker 1: love seeing that camaraderie all throughout the season. But that
Speaker 1: does not negate the performance in the playoffs, because if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do all of that and then get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and lay an egg, and then you look
Speaker 1: back over the NFL and see how many home teams
Speaker 1: won their games and you were not even close physically
Speaker 1: in the game that you just played. That's that's the disappointment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's why I didn't want to be And we
Speaker 1: can go back, you know, for fact check, but that's
Speaker 1: why I didn't want to be Debbie Downer when of
Speaker 1: these victories came along. But like y'all know, I wasn't
Speaker 1: hype about a lot of these victories because they were
Speaker 1: against opponents that you're supposed to beat. And everybody says, oh,
Speaker 1: it's still the NFL. Yeah, that's cool. However, there's there's levels.
Speaker 1: There's levels of this. I don't care what your record says,
Speaker 1: there's levels. So the twelve and five, yeah, that sounds good, awesome,
Speaker 1: But when you look back at the record of the
Speaker 1: teams that you face, you lost against the teams that
Speaker 1: really matter. And that's what this record showed. You lost
Speaker 1: against the teams that actually matter, that can actually compete
Speaker 1: at the next level of competition, which is the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And that's why I kept going back to saying, oh, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa simmer down because those games they like, they're cool,
Speaker 1: they're cool, but they really don't matter because you're showing
Speaker 1: exactly who you are and how you're going to approach
Speaker 1: that type of that level of competition when you face
Speaker 1: those opponents. And the records showed that you back down
Speaker 1: or that you don't show up against that type of opponent.
Speaker 1: And it showed up again the other day. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take away what they accomplished and
Speaker 1: some of the games that, you know, the first game
Speaker 1: of the season looking back, might have been their best performance.
Speaker 1: You know, they took they took Tom Brady and the
Speaker 1: Bucks to the wire. They went on the road against
Speaker 1: New England and I know they got blown out in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but won that game. And honestly, when they
Speaker 1: when they went to Minnesota and I know Minnesota and
Speaker 1: wounded up having a disappointing season, but they in that
Speaker 1: environment they won without Dak. For me personally, I thought,
Speaker 1: this is a special team. This is this is a
Speaker 1: team that's got a chance because they are a complete
Speaker 1: team and they could win it without Dak, win a
Speaker 1: big game on the road without Dak Prescott. So everything
Speaker 1: flipped after Denver, yep, I know when they when they
Speaker 1: came the next week and blew out Atlanta. I know,
Speaker 1: I said, I felt like, well, okay, that was an aberration.
Speaker 1: But it turned out that it wasn't for the offense.
Speaker 1: There was some kind of blueprint whatever I was trying
Speaker 1: to internal. Everybody laughed at me whenever I asked that question. Too. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people didn't care because it was forty three to three
Speaker 1: to the next week and you didn't think you thought
Speaker 1: the Denver game was the exception, not the rule. Well,
Speaker 1: they were so machine like through the first six seven
Speaker 1: games of the season. You were exactly right that based
Speaker 1: on the full resume, you were like, well, they just
Speaker 1: didn't bring it today. And I think we talked about it. Everybody,
Speaker 1: even the best teams in playoff halfway off the teas
Speaker 1: have one of those hiccup games. It turned out not
Speaker 1: to be a hiccup game. Yeah, And I can appreciate
Speaker 1: your you know, perspective on that because I think after
Speaker 1: the Denver game, you were one of the ones that
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, oh they see it, you know,
Speaker 1: Oh it's out there now, and everybody kind of followed
Speaker 1: that blueprint and said, look, this is who these guys are,
Speaker 1: and if we can show them this, we can actually
Speaker 1: slow this offense down. The numbers indicate that that obviously
Speaker 1: after the Denver game, that the production just went completely
Speaker 1: through the floor. But it just when it comes down
Speaker 1: like you, I use a team like Cincinnati. Cincinnati for
Speaker 1: an example, They're a team that was trajectory wise, was
Speaker 1: going down. Obviously Burrows hurt, but then they bring in
Speaker 1: a wide receiver that is just game changing, transformative. And
Speaker 1: if you had played them, say second week of the season,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been a team that you would have
Speaker 1: thought in your head, Okay, this is a team that's
Speaker 1: on the way up. No, you beat a team, a
Speaker 1: young team, young quarterback, young receiver. Look, our our whole
Speaker 1: thing is whether we build this rebuild, have to rebuild
Speaker 1: this roster. You gotta get game changing guys, and we
Speaker 1: didn't have a whole lot of game changes. You don't
Speaker 1: think this roster has game changing guys. I think Parsons
Speaker 1: was a game changer this year. Diggs was a game
Speaker 1: changer this year. You never had to run Curse as
Speaker 1: a as a game changer. At the beginning that nobody did.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have. You couldn't have guessed the way that
Speaker 1: dan Quinn used him that he would have been the
Speaker 1: kind of player that we needed. How many game changers
Speaker 1: do you think are on each side of the ball?
Speaker 1: Almost teams like True like true game changer. I liked it.
Speaker 1: I would like to think offensively, you'd have to have
Speaker 1: two or three this team, this team has more than that. No,
Speaker 1: of course, well a lot of it has to be
Speaker 1: in the right spots too, utilize that properly defensive line.
Speaker 1: That's why I think. That's what I'm saying that. So
Speaker 1: I don't think this roster is short of that. So,
Speaker 1: you know, just to address your point, I don't this
Speaker 1: roster is not short of game changers. The utilization of
Speaker 1: those game changers was not used. It wasn't not proper.
Speaker 1: This offense is one of the most explosive offenses and
Speaker 1: personnel wise in the league. You saw last night, what
Speaker 1: the explosives is supposed to look like you saw the
Speaker 1: other night Kansas City. What an explosive offense, but personnel
Speaker 1: like we have is supposed to look like the utilization
Speaker 1: was lacking. That's what's lacking. Dak is elite, Zeke is elite,
Speaker 1: regardless if he was hurt or not, Coop is elite,
Speaker 1: CD's elite. Those are four game changers right there, right there.
Speaker 1: On offense, defensively, we had two young guys go all pro,
Speaker 1: two young guys go all pro, and then you had
Speaker 1: you got d Law, you got great. I would I would.
Speaker 1: I would label these guys as game changers now, whether
Speaker 1: or not they cut that switch on or not, or
Speaker 1: whether or not they're put in positions to be game changers,
Speaker 1: it's something different. And I think that's where there's a
Speaker 1: there's a there's a separation by title, law, by production. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because absolutely absolutely. Yeah. That's why I said
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, when you think about him as a number
Speaker 1: one wide receiver, it's unquestionable his production in what he does.
Speaker 1: I mean, he separates himself. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: had that. I mean, if I'm just looking, and this
Speaker 1: is the thing about what we do, and you make
Speaker 1: the evaluation when we evaluate teams, we get to see
Speaker 1: them play against other teams, and you're like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: we oh we don't have one of those. And the
Speaker 1: crazy thing is, and I agree with you in that regard,
Speaker 1: a little bit in that regard. But I think if
Speaker 1: you look at this and we're just talking about offense,
Speaker 1: don't just look at the offense. Was Zeke used the
Speaker 1: way he needed to be used this year? I don't
Speaker 1: think you could, though, Okay, injury wise, Okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: that's perfect fine, would you guys Zeke? Yes? No, no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: let's go to I might say more Pollard than Zeke.
Speaker 1: Zeke spent almost as Zeke was hurt, but Polar could
Speaker 1: have been utilized more correct where his game changing the ability? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: all right? What about Coop? Was he utilized properly? No? No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't utilized properly. Okay, well I'm let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and go to uh, let's go to CD. CD had
Speaker 1: a good year. It could have been better, could have
Speaker 1: been better consistent. Yeah, he dropped a lot of balls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was him. And he only had the six touchdowns,
Speaker 1: which I know that's kind of getting nitpicky, but you
Speaker 1: look at the guys ahead of him that are in
Speaker 1: the similar situation. Stefan Dix had ten, Jamar Chase had thirteen,
Speaker 1: Adams Jefferson. I mean, if you want him to be
Speaker 1: that upper echelon. He's in year two. That's fine. Jamar
Speaker 1: Chase is a rookie special, best rookie receiver maybe of
Speaker 1: all time. Justin Jefferson did the same thing last year.
Speaker 1: He's still young, but you still want him to be
Speaker 1: that upper echelon. Yea, you want him to be the
Speaker 1: upper echelon. But again he wasn't used like he could
Speaker 1: have been used that right. Deebo Samuel had eight touchdowns
Speaker 1: from the backfield yep, and six receiving from the backfield
Speaker 1: in match. It's still match CD in terms of receiving
Speaker 1: difference maker. Absolutely. Also, they're being put in positions to
Speaker 1: be successful, and that's the job of on offensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball, of your offensive coordinator. The reason why
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons had the year he had not only because
Speaker 1: he's a special talent, he's an absolute goon, but also
Speaker 1: he was put in the right position. Guess where by
Speaker 1: half By mid season dan Quinn figured out, oh, if
Speaker 1: I put him over the guard, they don't stand a
Speaker 1: freaking chance, right If I put these guys wide and white,
Speaker 1: why nine techniques? If I put d Law in the
Speaker 1: inside and I put Michael Parsons on the inside. We
Speaker 1: can kill these guys. They were put in amazing positions,
Speaker 1: great players put in position to be successful. This organization
Speaker 1: has to figure out how to do that. On both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. They took turns. They took turns
Speaker 1: often stepped up, defense flipped it, and the offense said, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all got it. What'll we'll just we'll just right, we'll
Speaker 1: hop in the back, We'll hopping the back. They didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't both say we're both driving this bus. So
Speaker 1: I know we got to go to break now. Is
Speaker 1: that the number one thing they got to fix this offseason?
Speaker 1: Schematically offensively figure out how to fix what they what
Speaker 1: went wrong the last ten games whatever. I think Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore has a lot of homework to do on himself.
Speaker 1: First half, killer Moore, first half of the season. Second
Speaker 1: half killer Moore is something that I don't really, really
Speaker 1: really understand what was going on. And I think, and
Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier, I said, he went in his bag.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much is left in that bag.
Speaker 1: Remember I said he needs to he needs to go
Speaker 1: find another bag. I don't know how much is left
Speaker 1: in that bag. He should You could tell in this offseason,
Speaker 1: he put a lot of work, he watched a lot
Speaker 1: of film, He analyzed himself, and he came out there
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom boom, shooting his gun. Then
Speaker 1: he was out of Ammo. Yeah, who was out of Ama?
Speaker 1: You go back to He tried to he tried to
Speaker 1: get a little bit creative this pass game, going back
Speaker 1: to the little reverse wishbone thing. But guess what I
Speaker 1: think we ran that three times. Came out of that formation,
Speaker 1: all three of them passes, all three of them passes.
Speaker 1: None of them were out of run. You got two
Speaker 1: linemen in the backfield, you're not gonna run come down hill. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The balance, the balance dissipated early in that game when
Speaker 1: we talked about it going in, like you have to
Speaker 1: stay balanced. But you know, I just feel like you
Speaker 1: can have all the great intention in the world and
Speaker 1: your scheme can be absolutely great, but if your offense
Speaker 1: goes out and poo poo like that, I don't care
Speaker 1: what you call you know, that's that's It's like me.
Speaker 1: It's like me and my wife at the car dealership.
Speaker 1: I know what we can afford. But see, she doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to know, you know what I'm saying, And I
Speaker 1: just feel like Keller Moore, he has plays that he
Speaker 1: wants to call, but the timing isn't gonna be there
Speaker 1: for that play to be called because your offensive line
Speaker 1: isn't giving you the time. You know. That's that's the
Speaker 1: aspect of his game that he has to work on.
Speaker 1: He has to work on his patients. Kellen Moore has
Speaker 1: zero patients, zero patients. And I think he's I think
Speaker 1: he's a great creative mind. But I think his specialty, obviously,
Speaker 1: his comfort zone, and we've talked about this is down
Speaker 1: the field. He likes the big play, the big chunk plays.
Speaker 1: He he does a great job when there's a running
Speaker 1: game and he can run play action, he'll they'll pick
Speaker 1: you apart all day long. But when a running game
Speaker 1: is not present and it's no longer an option because
Speaker 1: you're behind, is he willing to work his way downfield?
Speaker 1: And in the stats in the film shows he's unwilling
Speaker 1: to do that. He doesn't like that that's out of
Speaker 1: his comfort zone. He doesn't want to be patient and
Speaker 1: run a twelve to fourteen play drive. He wants it
Speaker 1: to be a six play drive. He might have a
Speaker 1: couple plays in it, then he's taking a shot. But
Speaker 1: when the defense is playing bim but don't break Bill
Speaker 1: Bilichick type defense. That's what we just faced Bill Belichick type.
Speaker 1: We will let you work your way down the field
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna try to tighten it up in
Speaker 1: the red zone. That's what Sam Fran presented. And he said, Nah,
Speaker 1: we're still gonna take our shots. Now we're good Scholten nagger,
Speaker 1: you're wide open, but nah, we're running double undercons steps
Speaker 1: on the outside of Nah, Dak take the shot down
Speaker 1: the field. Well, Dak immediately. Admittedly, Will Will say he's
Speaker 1: greedy too in some of the regard that he wants
Speaker 1: to And I think Hellman has alluded to like Kellen's
Speaker 1: style as like when you play Madden and you're frustrated
Speaker 1: and you just want to run go routes and try
Speaker 1: to make it all back up. So but I don't.
Speaker 1: I never felt like they were two behind where they
Speaker 1: couldn't have stuck to the running game. And I watched
Speaker 1: it again and I know they've they have struggled again.
Speaker 1: I've talked about the old line winning up front, but
Speaker 1: like the puzzling thing and the frustrating thing watching it
Speaker 1: again was the one drive they had touchdown drive that
Speaker 1: was not benefited by a takeaway TP. Yeah, they ran
Speaker 1: it six times out of nine Zeke and Pollard and
Speaker 1: Zeke and Pollard wound up with twelve carries in the
Speaker 1: entire game. And that one drive that was there was
Speaker 1: there was the balance and oh man, that was also
Speaker 1: the most comfortable Dak Prescott looked on that in that
Speaker 1: game and there was a severe lack of up tempo,
Speaker 1: there was a severe lack of creativity. It really did
Speaker 1: feel vanilla. It was a Vanilla attack and you had
Speaker 1: been waiting. One of the big questions when there was
Speaker 1: so much struggle at the end of the year was
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're waiting. I wonder if they're gonna
Speaker 1: wait and they're gonna bring it whenever the playoffs come around,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna bring that bag. Kelly Moore has a bag.
Speaker 1: It's just fashed away for a little bit. But that
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. Vanilla's okay, though, Kyle like Vanilla is okay,
Speaker 1: and that's what I think he has to go back
Speaker 1: and address. Vanilla's cool, right. I don't need the sprinkles.
Speaker 1: I don't need the sprinkles. Let me be vanilla. Let
Speaker 1: me just work my way down. Let me just work
Speaker 1: my way down. It's boring, it's freaking boring. It's freaking boring.
Speaker 1: But guess when you have that many weapons, that's what
Speaker 1: teams are gonna do. Teams are gonna chill out. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep everything in front of a screw that.
Speaker 1: We ain't letting you be us over the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have whatever they wanted them in in front of us.
Speaker 1: He has to work on that patience. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Patience. He has to work on that aspect
Speaker 1: of his game. It's okay to be boring, and guess what,
Speaker 1: if you're boring long enough, guess what, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to put some spice in your life whenever you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to take advantage of it. When we
Speaker 1: come back here on Talking Cowboys, we've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about Callumore. We'll keep that conversation going. But is Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott still good enough to get this team to a
Speaker 1: conference championship and or Super Bowl in future years? We'll
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Speaker 1: This is like, you know, I think I should have
Speaker 1: asked you how it feels when the season ends. It
Speaker 1: literally is like being on a roller coaster for six
Speaker 1: months and then somebody just saying, get off, get out
Speaker 1: of here. It's so funny you said that, because body,
Speaker 1: you asked me that yesterday, and I very similar analogy.
Speaker 1: I said, it was like being on a lightning rod
Speaker 1: or something like a lightning bolt, riding that from July
Speaker 1: on and then it's just it stops. What a roller
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Speaker 1: let's talk about Dak Prescott here. Let's talk about Dak.
Speaker 1: And Isaiah wants me to start with heckmum, you really do.
Speaker 1: Isaiah wants me to start with heckmus So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with that. Mom. I agree with what you're about
Speaker 1: to say because I know what you're about to say.
Speaker 1: But is Dak Prescott still a quarterback? Is he still
Speaker 1: a quarterback that could get the job done? Yes, yes
Speaker 1: he is? Why is that? Yeah? Look, you know that's
Speaker 1: obviously with the head coach and the quarterbacks. They keep
Speaker 1: all the winning records. Right now, that one in three
Speaker 1: playoff record, that ain't looking good, and you have got
Speaker 1: to improve on that going into this offseason. It's got
Speaker 1: to be the emphasis on the running game has to
Speaker 1: be there, and that's for any quarterback. You look at
Speaker 1: Colin Murray yesterday, you look at any quarterback, that that
Speaker 1: balance your running game has to be there. Zeke coming
Speaker 1: out saying that he had a PCL injury this all
Speaker 1: year that is what gave me the mystery meet bubble
Speaker 1: Guts because to me, he was a decoy all year long.
Speaker 1: He was a decoy. He was an extra blocker. That
Speaker 1: is an indicative of how bad your offensive line is.
Speaker 1: And anytime we saw TP that was actually the offense running,
Speaker 1: you know, So those things have got to be corrected.
Speaker 1: But I think you know Dak's numbers. Obviously, the the
Speaker 1: NFL is it's a new it's a thrown passing league,
Speaker 1: so everyone's numbers is escalated. Me and p have talked
Speaker 1: about how the numbers, rushing numbers have completely gone into
Speaker 1: the tank. There's got to be an identity with this
Speaker 1: team that has to be addressed right the way offensively,
Speaker 1: if Kellen Moore leaves, if he stays, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: we've got to figure this part of it out. Is
Speaker 1: it the running gun or we completely just ground and pound?
Speaker 1: Which one is it going to be? Because we've got
Speaker 1: to figure this. We got to figure this thing out
Speaker 1: because we're leaving this guy out to dry, especially on
Speaker 1: those games where we don't have any balance. I've never
Speaker 1: gotten Dak confused with Aaron Rodgers. I've never gotten Dak
Speaker 1: confused with Tom Brady. I know where his strong suits are.
Speaker 1: He's a freaking leader, right, That's what he is. He
Speaker 1: is a blue collar quarterback in a white town. And
Speaker 1: you just better keep it real with yourself on that.
Speaker 1: And if you can build around him, he can get
Speaker 1: you there. But if you're just saying, hey, Dak, and
Speaker 1: I know I hear what you're saying at your chee,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna pay him like that, then he's got
Speaker 1: a lead like that. Whatever the whatever, the outlaid for everybody,
Speaker 1: the way they're getting paid. I just feel as though
Speaker 1: Dak is a quality quarterback. You cannot give up on him.
Speaker 1: And if you were, if you did it, you would
Speaker 1: be stupid because you go back to Sunday, If Dak
Speaker 1: played for the forty nine is, you probably lose by
Speaker 1: forty points. If Jimmy Garoppolo plays for the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: he throws four interceptions, period. So dances and I like,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, I like the way you brought up the
Speaker 1: run game. And I've been looking at this this is
Speaker 1: These are some of the totals running the football in
Speaker 1: Wildcard weekend, look at the teams that moved on and
Speaker 1: one football games. Eli Elijah Mitchell, of course for San
Speaker 1: Francisco had ninety six yards, Devin Singletary had eighty one yards.
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel added seventy two to Elijah Mitchell's ninety six.
Speaker 1: Both Sony Michelle and Cam Akers were over fifty yards apiece.
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon had a fantastic season and ran the ball
Speaker 1: for forty six yards in that ball game. They all
Speaker 1: have running attacks, and the Cowboys running attack had sixty
Speaker 1: yards prior to the final play. So it does. It
Speaker 1: plays a massive role in how Dak Prescott's able to
Speaker 1: run this offense, how the play action is then working,
Speaker 1: and it does. It makes an impact. And if a
Speaker 1: quarterback has that eliminated, that rugg taken out from underneath them,
Speaker 1: it makes your offense one dimensional and you have to
Speaker 1: find another way to get it done. And really, I
Speaker 1: didn't think there was another outlet for Dak Prescott to have.
Speaker 1: What say he wasn't good, I will say that he
Speaker 1: didn't play well, but he didn't necessarily have a whole
Speaker 1: lot of help either. Proud of you heck, he standing strong.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, man. I know you love your Dak.
Speaker 1: I know you love your Dak. Man. Man, you know
Speaker 1: I think you kept in one hunt it right there.
Speaker 1: I think that was well said. We should clip that
Speaker 1: help me. I agree with everything that you said. I
Speaker 1: think that Dak is a very capable quarterback. I believe
Speaker 1: that Dak is and should remain the leader of this team.
Speaker 1: I do believe that Dak has to elevate his leadership
Speaker 1: in the form of the expectations for this entire organization.
Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean that there should
Speaker 1: be seventeen check boxes. There should be seventeen boxes that
Speaker 1: he has to check. Boom seventeen gay boom boom boom. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's cool. We're gonna take care of these. These ones
Speaker 1: are the ones that are necessary to propel us to
Speaker 1: the ones that really matter. And I feel as if
Speaker 1: if that comes from your leader on the field, your quarterback,
Speaker 1: then that expectation of the entire offense and team will elevate.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to hear from the coach, It's another
Speaker 1: thing to hear from the player. When you think about
Speaker 1: the NFL, you think about the head coach, and then
Speaker 1: you think about who your quarterback, right, So those two
Speaker 1: guys have to be speaking the same language. When I
Speaker 1: was when I was in New England, I was wondering
Speaker 1: because when I was in here Dallas, we won ball games.
Speaker 1: We was kicking it. Oh, we was turning up you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Locker room live, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And then carried over through the weekend. Who
Speaker 1: was out clubing? And when I got to New England,
Speaker 1: it was like, all right, guys, good game, come back
Speaker 1: in on Monday. Hand, we got film to study, get
Speaker 1: ready for the next team. Look what the heck man Like,
Speaker 1: we just won a ball game. But it didn't feel
Speaker 1: like you just want a ball game. You just feel
Speaker 1: like check that box. You're supposed to do that. That's
Speaker 1: just your job. Your job is to show up and
Speaker 1: take care of these regular season game. We're preparing our
Speaker 1: minds for the next level. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: that step has been taken here obviously, it's been with
Speaker 1: how many years, twenty five years since in twenty six years.
Speaker 1: So the psychology in the communication between the head coach
Speaker 1: and that quarterback has to be on the same wavelength
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if it's there yet. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I can't think about an instance this year where we
Speaker 1: heard any any dialay between the head coach nor Dak
Speaker 1: in reference to postseason. And I'm not saying that's something
Speaker 1: they should be verbally just talking about all the time.
Speaker 1: But I didn't even get it inkling that there that
Speaker 1: their mindset was higher goals than just the regular season,
Speaker 1: like this was the expectation. I felt as if it
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we did a great job to day
Speaker 1: when I'm like, I never got the sense that it
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, no, good, We're preparing for the next week.
Speaker 1: I never got that vibe. And I may be wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what I feel, right, but I
Speaker 1: don't believe that there's an instance where you got this,
Speaker 1: the feeling that these guys are there there there, the
Speaker 1: mind is set on this is we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: doing this to these teams, and we need to be
Speaker 1: have our mindset on what are we going to face
Speaker 1: when we get to the playoffs. Well, and even if
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of that from Dak and
Speaker 1: from McCarthy and the leaders of this team, even if
Speaker 1: there was a sliver of that as the mindset with
Speaker 1: the postseason in mind, that's still not enough because not
Speaker 1: only do you have to have that mindset yourself, you
Speaker 1: have to have a more locked in mindset than all
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams in the NFL if you really
Speaker 1: want to achieve the goal and really get to the
Speaker 1: expectation in which this organization requires them. Absolutely, but I
Speaker 1: think that it has to start somewhere. Whether it starts
Speaker 1: there or whether it starts somewhere else, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that that level of expectation has us. And you
Speaker 1: hear it, right, you hear it in camp? Oh, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Our goals get to the NFC,
Speaker 1: you know, a championship NFC when the NFC East, and
Speaker 1: then you know, get to the champion I hear you,
Speaker 1: I hear you. But what are your actions saying? What
Speaker 1: are your actions saying? Like have fun when your ball games,
Speaker 1: but then like hey, your mindset, you should feel the
Speaker 1: vibe that all the when they losing. Given the Cowboys
Speaker 1: lose a game, what do we hear referees like you
Speaker 1: know what's being said, you know what's being said behind
Speaker 1: the scene when you listen to some of these other teams,
Speaker 1: listen to the leadership, listen to where their conversations are
Speaker 1: leading to. Aaron Rodgers wins a game, is he hyped
Speaker 1: about that game? Where he talking about like what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen down the road? Ye? Like, it's just the futurists.
Speaker 1: It's what am I trying to attain? And I've gotten
Speaker 1: be enough here you beat me up. I'm like, dang
Speaker 1: it as a you know, like you are you You're
Speaker 1: so hard on these guys. I'm like, yeah, because this
Speaker 1: is not this isn't the goal. The regular season is
Speaker 1: not the goal. That's that's that's set you up to
Speaker 1: be in position to go take care of business. That's
Speaker 1: why losing that Arizona game was so important, right because
Speaker 1: we want to know you still wouldn't get the first
Speaker 1: round by because you know, because of green Bay, because
Speaker 1: of green Bay, but positioning yourself the best you can
Speaker 1: for the playoff run, because that's all that matters in
Speaker 1: this league. Nobody cares. They could have went freaking like
Speaker 1: the dog on New England Patriots went sixteen and no
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, right, they went undefeated season, lost
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Yep, they don't give a dog on
Speaker 1: about that regular season. I guarantee you that nobody wears
Speaker 1: an AFC or NFC Championship ring. Nobody does you throw
Speaker 1: that in the clo You might even give it to
Speaker 1: your auntie. There's one thing that matters in this league,
Speaker 1: and it is walking away with the dog On Trophy
Speaker 1: in a ring. That's the only thing that you walk
Speaker 1: away with your stats and you walk away with your jewelry,
Speaker 1: because only two things you walk away within your career. Now, absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: that is I've heard so many Hall of Fame like
Speaker 1: Chris Carter just said it on television the other day,
Speaker 1: I trade my yellow jacket in for a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: ring any day, and God said, and they made said. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the level of success that comes with the Lombardi
Speaker 1: for players that sacrifice so much, you're right, you know
Speaker 1: it's it's I think that when you have an organization
Speaker 1: that has that stayed in at eight that five hundred
Speaker 1: level throughout seasons. Man, you celebrate when you get above that.
Speaker 1: But the organizations that you're talking about that, hey man,
Speaker 1: all right, we want a game. Come on, let's move
Speaker 1: on to the next thing. That's a couple of Super
Speaker 1: Bowl rings to boot to go with all of that,
Speaker 1: you know, So it's a formula that works, and that's
Speaker 1: where we got to come up with man which which
Speaker 1: is which formula works? Yeah, I'm made a lot of
Speaker 1: great points, Isaiah. And as as Heck was talking, I
Speaker 1: was like a bobblehead. I was just doing this. You
Speaker 1: could just tap the time, because I mean, I believe
Speaker 1: in Dak. I've been on Dak for for years because
Speaker 1: of his work ethic, because I think he truly wants
Speaker 1: to be great. The second half of the season was
Speaker 1: completely different from him after he came back from the
Speaker 1: strain calf. And I'm not saying the injury was a
Speaker 1: major factor there, but we talked about schematically, there were
Speaker 1: some things there. I don't know exactly what the answer
Speaker 1: is why. I don't know if anybody really knows exactly
Speaker 1: what has gone wrong with this offense, because I think
Speaker 1: one of the things with Dak that impressed me so
Speaker 1: much early in the season was just how quick, how
Speaker 1: how advanced he's gotten in terms of complete command of
Speaker 1: this offense. Boom boom, boom, read reread falls out, you know,
Speaker 1: total command. We didn't see that as much and and
Speaker 1: I think the running game is a huge factor there.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it all away from Dak Prescott because
Speaker 1: if you watch clips of guys breaking it down, Dan Orlovsky, whoever, like,
Speaker 1: there there's miss throws, there's miss reads, there's all there
Speaker 1: is that stuff. But again, it helps to have things
Speaker 1: around you a little more stable. And I've said this
Speaker 1: team was the best team I've Cowboys team I've seen
Speaker 1: since O seven. I might amend that and say sixteen,
Speaker 1: even though Dak was a rookie, even though Zeke was
Speaker 1: a rookie, and they were a young team, because they
Speaker 1: had that offensive line so dominant and something that they
Speaker 1: could just lean on and just moving people out of
Speaker 1: the way. And again I'm not putting it all on
Speaker 1: the offensive line here, but that that's not the strength
Speaker 1: it used to be. No, They've spent all season trying
Speaker 1: to figure out the right five, the most effective group,
Speaker 1: and they never got that continuity. And I think the
Speaker 1: running game and not having that and some of it's
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore maybe not sticking to it enough, but that
Speaker 1: to me was a huge factor in why this offense,
Speaker 1: to your point to Kyle, was not as effectiveness down
Speaker 1: the stretcher. Yeah, that offensive line was probably the spot
Speaker 1: that I circled the most throughout the season because even
Speaker 1: the defense in the game. We talked about it yesterday
Speaker 1: in the game on Sunday, twenty three points allowed by
Speaker 1: your defense, even after the slow start, even after the
Speaker 1: big play the Deebo Samuel following the turnover, it wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: It should have been enough to get your offense and
Speaker 1: give them a chance to win the football game, and
Speaker 1: they didn't do that. All right, when we come back
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Speaker 1: stand back with the Mike flip the final one of
Speaker 1: the regular season and the eyebrow and eyebrow that wasn't
Speaker 1: the flip that was like a Mike slap. Players, get
Speaker 1: out of here? What is this? Heck Harrison, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: Chris Beam, I'm Kyle Yeoman's and guys, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to bring some positivity, I said Isaiah second ago.
Speaker 1: What's that what's the positive? What's positivity? I want to
Speaker 1: bring some sort of what does that even mean? Right now?
Speaker 1: I know nobody, nobody. I'm trying to figure out, what
Speaker 1: are you about to do? I want to hear your
Speaker 1: favorite part of this season. It could be on the field,
Speaker 1: it could be off the field, it could be a
Speaker 1: part of these shows. I want to hear your favorite
Speaker 1: part to wrap up this season because we had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun in here. We had a lot of
Speaker 1: fun throughout the year on different shows, different things, different games.
Speaker 1: It all kind of just boiled down. What was your
Speaker 1: favorite part. We'll start with Isaiah. The culture changed that
Speaker 1: Dad Quinn brock Okay and the hope on that side
Speaker 1: of the football alone or just in general the whole
Speaker 1: team and affected the whole team. I think it gave this.
Speaker 1: I think without dan Quinn there wouldn't be No. Twelve
Speaker 1: and five and there wouldn't have been the hope going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs that this team and organization had. I
Speaker 1: think he was a complete culture shock for in a
Speaker 1: good way, and obviously it showed up on the field.
Speaker 1: So dan Quinn most definitely Heckles damn, That's where I
Speaker 1: was going. But Dan Quinn. You know what, man, not
Speaker 1: to be too much you about all of this. Man,
Speaker 1: I think just doing this podcast with you guys each
Speaker 1: and every day, and the approach and professionalism that you
Speaker 1: guys have, I mean, it's it's always humbling. I bring
Speaker 1: my best shit every time I'm coming here with y'all,
Speaker 1: and it's just you know, Cowboy Nation and everybody that
Speaker 1: over the seasons, you know that have embraced me and
Speaker 1: taken me in. I man, this is you know, don't
Speaker 1: wake me up, because this is this is crazy to
Speaker 1: be in this environment, to be around so many great people.
Speaker 1: I mean not only just you guys, but you know
Speaker 1: Chris Beam, Rosa Medina, Uh, Derek Eagleton, Nick you know
Speaker 1: Nick Eatman. It's just it's just a lot of it's
Speaker 1: just you're You're surrounded by so many quality people that
Speaker 1: it's it's it's intimidating. It's intimidating, and so you try
Speaker 1: and find your place in it. And you gotta be
Speaker 1: badass each and every day when you come into a
Speaker 1: studio that you know that David Hellman is gonna walk
Speaker 1: into after you, so you gotta be funky baby. That
Speaker 1: Dave brings a high standard co sign that love you
Speaker 1: heck you got Yeah, you know, everybody brings it every day.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. Um. I hope they can
Speaker 1: keep dan Quinn. I don't know. He's got about eighteen
Speaker 1: job interviews for head coaching vacancies around. A lot of
Speaker 1: teams are interested in him and for good reason. Um,
Speaker 1: that's tough. I would say, just watching Michael Parsons play
Speaker 1: football and listening to Michael Parsons every day, he's my
Speaker 1: favorite guy to talk to during the week. UM. I
Speaker 1: think you listen to him after this game Sunday and
Speaker 1: you you you hear him talk and talk about accountability
Speaker 1: and we got to clean up penalties and it's so
Speaker 1: it's not it's not just his play on the field,
Speaker 1: but you listen to him talking, you're thinking this, this
Speaker 1: young guy is gonna be a leader of this team. UM,
Speaker 1: And he kind of already is. Um. He's definitely a
Speaker 1: building block and a huge bright spot in what they've
Speaker 1: done this season. And if they without him, with all
Speaker 1: the guys they were missing early in the season, he
Speaker 1: really kind of saved this defense in a lot of
Speaker 1: ways early on. He really did. And he's I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many expectations around him. Whether or not he
Speaker 1: lives up to the numbers that he put up in
Speaker 1: a rookie season, that's gonna be tough because he did
Speaker 1: set such a high bar. But yeah, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Dan Quinn, this podcast and how much fun
Speaker 1: it is to do this each and every day. Chris,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite moment throughout the season? My
Speaker 1: favorite moment? Yeah, yeah, I got a favorite moment. What
Speaker 1: is it five o'clock? Why when five o'clock rolls? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: five o'clock is always got a lot of fun? Can
Speaker 1: go outside? Is it? Is it usual? Uh? This is
Speaker 1: my favorite moment. It is straight up when or lose
Speaker 1: pick The cowboys picked the Vikings, and we're gonna let
Speaker 1: it happen and say it with your chest. You're on
Speaker 1: talking cowboys, b We'll start with you who you got on?
Speaker 1: Before I answer that real quick, I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and say it with my chest. Man as they are
Speaker 1: stand back, you stand back. You about to get burnt
Speaker 1: in the forty yard dash from your boy be Church.
Speaker 1: I can't wait, I can't wait. We all go burn
Speaker 1: out the question with the cowboys. They're gonna take this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's over. Kurt Cousins ain't got nothing for us. All
Speaker 1: the mule's buried on them because nobody in there. Nobody
Speaker 1: was so funny that that that that is That was
Speaker 1: probably my favorite moment. I love that was so fun
Speaker 1: that Chris and Barry. The franking thing is. It took
Speaker 1: Heckma probably a good like five minutes be like, hold
Speaker 1: on a second, that that that's Barry. I think I
Speaker 1: took Yeah, yeah, Heckma realized it. I was like, that's Barry.
Speaker 1: And then it took me even more. Wait a second,
Speaker 1: I was actually Barry. I don't think I identified it
Speaker 1: until he said the players and that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you sneak. He's like, he's like, don't do this, don't
Speaker 1: do this. He only said that like five times. But
Speaker 1: I didn't think at that point he didn't really know
Speaker 1: who it was. You had to do it. You thought
Speaker 1: he was just challenging you. Taking Barry side like that.
Speaker 1: That was probably my favorite. That was my favorite. That
Speaker 1: was hilarious. That calmed down fight, oh and all the
Speaker 1: other great Here we go, it's off season, so we
Speaker 1: got to get the race going. Danny McCrae start jumping
Speaker 1: on the wrong thing. So calm down, fight. Oh so
Speaker 1: many fun moments, my I mean, you guys hit so
Speaker 1: many great points. Mine is really the interaction we got
Speaker 1: to have with Cowboys Nation this year as opposed to
Speaker 1: what we were having last year because it was all
Speaker 1: virtual last year, we didn't really get to do a
Speaker 1: whole lot. We got to go to trading camp this year,
Speaker 1: we got to do some outdoor stuff. This year. We
Speaker 1: had fans on our pickup segments every single week and
Speaker 1: it was so much fun. So for real, Cowboys Nation,
Speaker 1: you were the best. I've been very sentimental and thankful
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: okay voice now that that's called losing my voice, still
Speaker 1: trying to get it back. That's a great point. And
Speaker 1: also you got to credit this football team for giving
Speaker 1: us a chance to have fun, because it wasn't fun
Speaker 1: to talk about this team last year. And obviously the
Speaker 1: COVID was a huge factor too, And that's why the
Speaker 1: way this season ended is so disappointing. Because the team
Speaker 1: did have a good season. It's angry because you had
Speaker 1: higher expectations last year. We were talking about the draft
Speaker 1: in like three weeks before the season. So yeah, we uh,
Speaker 1: we are so much. We are so thankful to be
Speaker 1: a part of this, be a part of Cowboys Nation,
Speaker 1: and of course we'll be here throughout the off season.
Speaker 1: Eleven am Central Times on Tuesday, Tuesdays Tuesdays. From here
Speaker 1: on out, it is Talking Tuesdays, popping tomorrow nothing, Yes,
Speaker 1: Isaiah's on tomorrow for like a media Oh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do tomorrow. Cool. Well, Isaiah will be on there,
Speaker 1: so that's fun. Yeah, I was popping tomorrow, will be
Speaker 1: on tomorrow. And I think Kyle, you're on on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Oh I am oh you are there? You go, Eric
Speaker 1: News Kyle, great, guys. All right, well I'll see you
Speaker 1: on Thursday for whatever show it is. But for the
Speaker 1: final time in the regular season for Talking Cowboys, presented
Speaker 1: by Tostitos, for Chris being, Rob Phillips, Isaiah standback, heck Ma, Harrison,
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle, y'all, and saying so long, We'll see you
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