WEBVTT - #477 - Consequence

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<v Speaker 1>Yo, what up? This is Consequence. You know one on

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<v Speaker 1>two was in the building, and make sure you check

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<v Speaker 1>me out on a bootleg keV podcast. Let's go, yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Bootleg keV podcast special guests here the legend Consequence.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo. What the building?

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. I think the last time I interviewed you

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<v Speaker 2>was with x V in like two thousand and ten

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<v Speaker 2>or eleven in Vegas. I think we did we might

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<v Speaker 2>have linked. Yeah, we probably did do Phoenix. But the

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<v Speaker 2>first time then for sure you had like a random

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<v Speaker 2>show on the strip in front of the New York

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<v Speaker 2>New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Shout out to Tony from Red Bull. We did

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<v Speaker 1>the Bull joint. Yeah, yeah, I remember that joint.

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<v Speaker 2>XV Man. Shout out to x V.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, shout out to XV. Wherever you at, man, Holla, man, word, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could just move it if you want. You just came

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<v Speaker 2>back from China, uh yay, and Ty obviously did the

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<v Speaker 2>Vultures experience out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>How was that, man? Because I mean I heard the

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<v Speaker 2>set was like historic in terms of just how long,

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<v Speaker 2>how many songs are done, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was about I want to say, ninety ninety records.

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<v Speaker 1>He ran through like a ninety piece raz.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he like know that that's what's about to happen

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<v Speaker 2>or is it just like just keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of bowl because you know, obviously there's

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<v Speaker 1>some parameters to the set, but then there's the feeling

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's the crowd and you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's just vibes, you know what I mean? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Or so that just it was live, Yo, talk to

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<v Speaker 2>me about like how crazy it is, like just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>putting you in like a time machine and going back

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<v Speaker 2>to like the college Dropout tour when you guys had

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<v Speaker 2>like John Legend and maybe being ben I Ree and dilated.

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<v Speaker 2>People's was opening up and.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, Oh I don't have to do that. You

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<v Speaker 1>was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there the pictures Yeah long ago, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>was there right right? But know how crazy is it

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<v Speaker 2>just to think like like did you have like obviously

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<v Speaker 2>at that point in time, even on that tour, he

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<v Speaker 2>was like the hottest rapper still, like you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, But shit's just crazy that the beginning and

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<v Speaker 2>then y'all had the Spaceship Dance y'all were doing on

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<v Speaker 2>stage with GLC right right right right up. Yeah, me

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<v Speaker 2>and my boys will trying to do that the.

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<v Speaker 1>Kimo Sorrio that was Kimo Sorio used to be the

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<v Speaker 1>chief better than the source. Yeah, of course, Hung Kanye

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<v Speaker 1>had a friendship at the time, and she suggested that

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be some kind of I don't know, the Four

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<v Speaker 1>Tops or some ship. But so that was the suggestion.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like kind of make it more than just uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God's up there wrapping and whatever. So we

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, brainstorming count and just came up with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was one of those things. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, no, I'm not doing the Spaceship dance, dog,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do the Spaceship dance. And then next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I and it's worked though, you know, every

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<v Speaker 1>time it was like a quirky, unexpected favorite thing of

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<v Speaker 1>the of the of the tour just when we would now,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, Spaceship was a lot of people's favorite record

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, but that part in particular was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do that ship tonight type of shit, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So it worked out, not for sure, it's crazy too

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<v Speaker 2>because like if you go back then, I remember I

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<v Speaker 2>think I want to say at the merch boots like

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<v Speaker 2>John Legend had a mixtape before anybody knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Who he was. I had a mixtape.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a mixtape.

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<v Speaker 1>I had. I pinely this. I gotta due take credit

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<v Speaker 1>for this on the strength of the hustle I because

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<v Speaker 1>remember I put take them to the cleaners out, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So my thing was wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>first This wasn't the first time that I was on tour, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a bear in mind. I was on drive

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what I mean. So I was hell

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<v Speaker 1>bent on getting some paper.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, yo, I'm gonna get something at that merchant.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right now. The merching table for me was just

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<v Speaker 1>like it was literally like a corner. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>selling drugs. It was like, all right, cool, I'm bring

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<v Speaker 1>all this out, get rid of it. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>was at one point I was on the tour bus

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<v Speaker 1>count so much money that John Legend had his mixtape

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<v Speaker 1>sent out. He was like, wait, I got it, wait

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<v Speaker 1>right right, right right, I'm missing out right right right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was free paper. Yeah, it was free paper, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And we we all eventually because

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<v Speaker 1>we was doing that then it ended up getting the

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<v Speaker 1>Sony deal because we just was on ten with a

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<v Speaker 1>hustle in addition to being with Kanye. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But it's you know, it's one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>be with him, and like you said, we go from

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<v Speaker 1>it's not with the beautiful thing about Kanye's story, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just from being included, just from the houseide looking it

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<v Speaker 1>is that it wasn't an ordained number one or hottest rapper.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was earned. It was crashed and clovested in.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember he was on tour with like Toy Live

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<v Speaker 2>in Common right or was it was his quality? It

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<v Speaker 2>was it was quality and gang star or was it

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<v Speaker 2>common It was common right?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it it might have managers homie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like you said, like he really like it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like he was just like or like like he

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<v Speaker 2>kind of was passed over by Jay like like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like well, I felt like it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like an afterthought. He was looked at as a producer,

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<v Speaker 2>like there.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that Well, the thing is this right and fairness

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<v Speaker 1>to jay Z. Right, you have a whole roster of

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<v Speaker 1>what of artists that are in your mold right? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know exactly what to do with you know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what to do with bleak you know exactly what means, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure? Right, then you get the gifts of Sparks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of their personalities and p D and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And Chris is sixteen when they

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<v Speaker 1>do the High ninety seven joint. Right. So then in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to that, you know, g and hip Hop start

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<v Speaker 1>building the production, right, so that goes from him outsourcing

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<v Speaker 1>production to him having now just Blaze bringing Bincon and

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<v Speaker 1>then Yay comes you know was over with d Do

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<v Speaker 1>and then winds up being managed by gian Hop. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So if you Jay and you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at your pyramid, you all said every brick is

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<v Speaker 1>in place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't need nothing nothing, right, let alone something

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<v Speaker 2>you don't you've never seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right? And then and then we're trying to re

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<v Speaker 1>reinvent the will with you being a rapper producer instead

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<v Speaker 1>of you being a producer rapper, right, because the will

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<v Speaker 1>is Timberland rasfal Magoo right, right, doctor Dre Raf for

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop Dog. Right. So the producer is good, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>not as good as the rail rapper, right. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>At from a moss at good.

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<v Speaker 1>From a from a stereotype and a stigma point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So you know, and in fairness,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that kind of changed the course

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<v Speaker 1>of history is just the fact that I wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>tribe no more. And when me and Kanye linked, we

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<v Speaker 1>both had with each other needed to get into the future,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Because I never I never

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<v Speaker 1>fell off with the business didn't work out, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But that's why when the good, the bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and ugly dropped, I was a whole new motherfucker that

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<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers because they hadn't heard me for a second. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on a Rockefeller be and Kanye rapping with me

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<v Speaker 1>and were killing shit because we don't got nothing to lose, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So then he don't got especially don't got nothing to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>went through the wire drop like he was to the

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<v Speaker 1>point I HUGO wire was like real.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you had to like be real tuned into the

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<v Speaker 2>internet to get because I remember having the O.

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<v Speaker 1>G version right he was, he was really like right,

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<v Speaker 1>but the ship was still shut.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like you had to get that ship

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<v Speaker 2>off of like message boards or napster whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But even before we get to that killed. But even

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to that, you know, he gets embrace

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<v Speaker 1>by the heavy hitters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had the heavy hitters, Like by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a heavy hitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Shot to the heavy Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>President Day Big Spanish, my dog legend or the legend

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<v Speaker 1>for sure and definitely resident piece of fat Man School

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<v Speaker 1>while we are fact or. But so saying all that

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<v Speaker 1>to say that, you know, his escalation was literally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting up getting a placement on Envy's mixed mixtape album.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a step by step thing. So it wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Say the one like jay Z came out and said

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<v Speaker 2>this the new dude on like like he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had to earn that.

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<v Speaker 1>And get the like the official like like like look

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<v Speaker 1>at you electronical for a second, right, like Jay Electronica

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<v Speaker 1>exhibitsy is a massive piece, right, so one of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest hip hop songs. He doesn't have to really go

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<v Speaker 1>five mixtapes deep, you know what I'm saying. He got

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<v Speaker 1>an established just blaze. He's dealing with Erica, Jay and

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<v Speaker 1>Brace some kaboom right where Yay was like at one

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<v Speaker 1>point trying to be on raucus.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, that didn't work there back then would be considered

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<v Speaker 2>a backpack type artist, a boom back type, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's also kind of like really kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of fashion fashion wise didn't line up with really anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just kind of doing the thing on the

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<v Speaker 2>fashion right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because but but and that's because his producer money

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<v Speaker 1>had him shopping where only rich motherfuckers was shopping at.

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<v Speaker 1>But because he was in the streets, in the street

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<v Speaker 1>culture was at his boom point, it didn't line up

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<v Speaker 1>all the way be cause remember he wearing Louis before

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<v Speaker 1>any like modern time. He really wearing Louis before a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of niggas.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Louis vait done right by

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<v Speaker 2>my mom, a person not sit Louis Vait time.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom right right right right, that type shit. So so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a lot of things that But then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>once he clicked it all comes with him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know What's Crazy is There was like the early

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<v Speaker 2>Kanye like mixtape era, and then he would he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up using some of those verses on like other people

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<v Speaker 2>shit or like even What's Crazy is Home was a

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<v Speaker 2>mixtape record that two albums later became Homecoming, Cold, New

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<v Speaker 2>Beat Cold, you know what I mean. But he had

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<v Speaker 2>that ship on home and then even like I met

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<v Speaker 2>Oprah was crazy, like he had so much and the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Your guys just mixtape shit. It's just just crazy together.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just feel like people forget about that era. Yay,

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<v Speaker 2>like you go on YouTube and just I think people

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<v Speaker 2>would put him together and calling freshman adjustments.

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<v Speaker 1>Right volume one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo, I got a random question for you. I always

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<v Speaker 2>wondered if this is true. Is it true that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys had uh porn stars on tour as messuss for

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<v Speaker 2>the Glow in the Dark tour?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know ironically, you know you know who

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<v Speaker 1>started that rumor? Who Kate is the mother?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so not true?

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<v Speaker 1>Ask her ask her son next time you come here,

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<v Speaker 1>No king, But yeah, nah, that that she was. She was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's was the beginning of when we were dealing, began

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with each other. And you know, she she just

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<v Speaker 1>peeped some ship and she was doing gossip for who

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<v Speaker 1>Kids radio show. So that's where I actually came from.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what the yo, don't do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>After the fact now, but don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about obviously you got your new I'm

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<v Speaker 2>coming out on Friday? Is it next Friday?

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<v Speaker 1>Next twenty seventh? Yes, you got.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a record that dropped with Melle. Obviously Mellie

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<v Speaker 2>has been locked. I think I did the last interview

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<v Speaker 2>with Mellie before you went into prison or got arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a great relationship with Yay. Was that a

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<v Speaker 2>record you guys had worked on obviously before he got

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<v Speaker 2>incarcerated or was it like some vocals you got your

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<v Speaker 2>hands on because I saw you shot out his management, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how did that come to be?

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<v Speaker 1>We worked on the record the weekend before the same

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<v Speaker 1>weekend got basically got jammed up. Wow, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>one two three boom, What the fuck? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Just as with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we always you know. I came down there

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<v Speaker 1>with Ya and they did their collab. Yeah, And there

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<v Speaker 1>was a little issue in the studio, So I left

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<v Speaker 1>bound and I went another room. I'm like, Yo, this

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<v Speaker 1>is because it's Florida, is right. Hammer was everywhere for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Right, So I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too old for this shit, right right right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>right right right right. Especially, I ain't like I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>traveling piece on me, so I'm like, yo, ship. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, you know the ship. This ship about

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<v Speaker 1>to become too much action for what I'm for my

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<v Speaker 1>comfort level. Sure, let me just go in the other

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<v Speaker 1>room for you know, some ship spark. So I do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I said, we was down there, we

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<v Speaker 1>at Timlin studio. Shout out to Tim and so his

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<v Speaker 1>producers angel Fetti was working with us, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they has just put put together like a little piano loop,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the skeleton of Overdose, the record the record

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<v Speaker 1>over those and I wrote the part and I wrote it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't even put put it together like

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<v Speaker 1>this like he's definitely gonna do it. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>literally I did it. He walked in, He really walked

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<v Speaker 1>in from off his tour bus. He had like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to two hundred people with them on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I grabbed him like yo, calling me real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do something for me, Like yeah, uncle,

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<v Speaker 1>I got you whatever, you know what I mean, And

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<v Speaker 1>he cut it. He left him alone, and literally that's

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<v Speaker 1>the last time I seen him. That's crazy, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it was it easy to get clear to release

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<v Speaker 2>because he's not putting it. I mean, there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of music from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, but he's still but uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like he still has a cold following. He's still like

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<v Speaker 1>a tear.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever he I don't know if he's ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>get out, but if he ever gets out, he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>still going to be able to drop music and.

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<v Speaker 1>Be right right right right right. So I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was you know, respectable amount of dialogue had to

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<v Speaker 1>go into just you know, securing it, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it was just between me and him and whether with

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<v Speaker 1>the team at the time, so you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>proper protocols speaking with the team, and you know, got

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<v Speaker 1>his mom blessing for shout to Jamie and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shout the track and everybody over at three hundred for

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<v Speaker 1>for uh you know, going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fly fly for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the you know, one of the more random

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth is the you and ty Lib thing?

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<v Speaker 2>What is the genesis of that? Like what happened? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because of like I just wonder how did this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like tayl Lib has has has you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a fall from grace. I won't say that. I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say. I feel like I've seen him have back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth a lot on the online as a fall

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<v Speaker 2>from grace. I can't say that about telling quality.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quality like I got.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just curious, like, what is the genesis of your.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys say that without no tone, that's to me, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a fall from grace.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you if you I fucked with the Black

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<v Speaker 2>Star album that dropped though, who suit was hard?

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<v Speaker 1>If you were one of the people who ushered in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole rock is movement.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and the whole honestly, that whole whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call that underground, I just had this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever you know, like listen, listen, all spawns from tribe. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, I would say tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at the end of the day, they all came

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<v Speaker 1>around when I joined tribe, they all came around.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you would say, so, so that rock that Rockets

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<v Speaker 2>movement kind of like the father of the Rockets movement

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<v Speaker 2>is Tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that. All those people will probably say that.

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<v Speaker 1>When the sound q tips on the first soundbomb he

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<v Speaker 1>co signed.

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<v Speaker 2>Man sound bomb. Oh yeah, yeah that song with Tash

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<v Speaker 2>Are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready to rock them? Like? Oh my god? It was hard, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's literally like maybe like a maybe ang and

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<v Speaker 1>a half.

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<v Speaker 2>At first sound bombing, almost fucking the first two crazy right,

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<v Speaker 2>third one was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But so at the end of the day, I'm big

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<v Speaker 1>on history because and that's why I would make the

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<v Speaker 1>statement I make I'm not gonna go with Scuba dive

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<v Speaker 1>deep into him. My album's coming out, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not really in that space.

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<v Speaker 2>But was it an online thing or a real life thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely not no real life thing. It's definitely not no

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<v Speaker 1>real life thing. Is not a real life thing at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's not I asked for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get it, you know what I'm saying, Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's for me. It's a real life thing. You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't disrespect my son or my son's mother, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wasn't paying attention enough. I just know surface

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<v Speaker 2>level you guys have been beefing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't anybody. I mean, I mean, listen, the Tribe

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<v Speaker 1>is Not has been inducted into the Rock Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>fame and that had to just get put on ice.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke with a Cube of about it. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>happy about what was going on, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Tribe got thrown in it back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, in fairness, it wasn't fair to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the to the group name at all either. And

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<v Speaker 1>I take I take responsibility for that, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, because because otherwise for me, that's a fall

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<v Speaker 1>from grace. You sitting here doing that after y'all just

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<v Speaker 1>did the last Tribe album and one, two, and three,

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<v Speaker 1>and I ran the merged company and then went on

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, give Grammy's with Kanye or whatever again,

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<v Speaker 1>Like so, you know, I get when people were like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, cons this ain't so it's fair for me

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<v Speaker 1>to say, yeah, that's a fourth and Grace, like yo, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you bugging, you bugging, and and and and and also

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<v Speaker 1>because it was a Domino fare because Kanye stepped out

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<v Speaker 1>and said what he said about him on Drink Champs.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, that's that's that's the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of d.

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<v Speaker 1>And of it at the beginning. I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>prior to that think about it, It's me Jerobi Quality

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<v Speaker 1>and Kanye on the Killer Season on the last Trive album.

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<v Speaker 1>What reason do I have to deliberately go out of

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<v Speaker 1>my way by the way, great album, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? And so what reason would

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<v Speaker 1>I have to have one of the featured artists on

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<v Speaker 1>the group's album because Travis is my group too, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>for sure? Why would that doesn't make any sense? I

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<v Speaker 1>went and got the Kanye feature. I did personally it's

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship, right, I'm the bridge between those worlds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sometimes I'm credited for it and sometimes I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's why that's what the water's getting murky,

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<v Speaker 1>because believe me when I tell you that Kanye feature

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<v Speaker 1>don't happen without me at all. And he's at number

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<v Speaker 1>this is Kanye post poblow, right and the Yeezies is

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<v Speaker 1>at the first one hundred million, So he don't got

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. It's on my strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think, uh, you guys could ever put it

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<v Speaker 2>past you? Like maybe Dave Chappelle comes and like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Chappelle's like the Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not doing anything without a check fair enough. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying no. I'm definitely not saying yes. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's damages that's been done. Like my son saw

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<v Speaker 1>all that he thirteen. You know what I'm saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I don't know the details what was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what saying. I mean. I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>like situations because he's you know, tied to a few

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<v Speaker 1>difficulties like up rocks for instance, to be like.

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<v Speaker 2>A pretty reasonable guy, like I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool with him, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I also don't know what was said.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm coming from and I think the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is just like he's been on the defense since drink Champs,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So in his whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call it, it's not I wasn't never

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get violid. He's not like that at all, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But he in in whatever emotion

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<v Speaker 1>that he's caught up in, He's not using his brain.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like when you're when you are caught up

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<v Speaker 2>in emotions usually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but we men were me. I mean, I'm a man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm assuming.

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<v Speaker 2>Besides Mellie, who else is on the project that you

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<v Speaker 2>got coming out with?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's no apologies. So that's my first single that's

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<v Speaker 1>charted as a solo artist. So very proud and happy

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:07.920
<v Speaker 1>about that record. It's been on for a while too,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been out yeah yeah yeah, so uh we got

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<v Speaker 1>to Chase Part three with featuring Caden, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>flip of my first joint to Chase Part two.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that record is crazy. I have Chris Rock on.

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<v Speaker 2>The album Fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, a skit. It's a verse.

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<v Speaker 2>You got Chris Rock Verse? Did you help him write it?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Stream of consciousness consciousness verse. But it's really dope

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<v Speaker 1>the record. The record is corre relationship advice.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's dope.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like some.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's and Alex Osley Uh from The Honestly Family

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<v Speaker 1>is singing.

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<v Speaker 2>The chorus, oh hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I have Way and I on my album. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the runner ups on America Io. She's

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<v Speaker 1>like my Kelly Price worked on a bunch of records

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:04.359
<v Speaker 1>and she know she had a breakout moment on Idol.

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<v Speaker 1>So Fire Yeah, and I produced eighty percent of.

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<v Speaker 2>It, oh ship, Yeah, so you're behind the beats and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bars, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Who produced the other twenty percent?

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye did Blood Stain, Fire and Call like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Angel and Fetti, uh, and myself did Overdose and fire

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<v Speaker 1>Man and Keiso.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be having the same alerts, bro shout to that ring,

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<v Speaker 2>that ring, move back. Somebody walks by your fucking even

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<v Speaker 2>on the street outside the ring, girl walking their dog.

0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>God damn right door right right? So you know, so yeah,

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 1>we we I'm very happy. I you know, it's been

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 1>a long a good minute since day job, but I

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>could say like I waited my turn like a real nigga,

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited about about what's to come.

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 2>What you know, what I sh about you is you're,

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:07.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, really a very rare breed of loyal in

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 2>hip hop and the way because I feel like, for

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 2>better or worse, uh, And I think a lot of

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Kanye's more controversial takes have aged a lot better than

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 2>we'd all like to admit. We won't get into specifically

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>which ones are those takes, but you have kind of

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 2>for better or worse however the public has felt about. Yeah,

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 2>you always defended him relentlessly.

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's defending them pro se. I'm

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:41.240
<v Speaker 1>just I'm me, you know what I mean, And I'm

0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:45.879
<v Speaker 1>unapologetically me. And when I say that, I say that

0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to say that the loyalty thing is not something that

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I put forth is on cont I do it just

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 1>because to your naturally, because of who I am, And

0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 1>if I do disagree with something because of my respect

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>for myself number one, and my respect for our relationship

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and the things that we've uh you know, have built

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:27.119
<v Speaker 1>together and shares memories, then yeah, my guy who is

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>multiple uh wears multiple hats in my life, he's you know,

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>he's he's the plug in business. Oftentimes he's been big

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>bro in the streets. Often times he's been my kid brother.

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. We are It's a different

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.880
<v Speaker 1>relationship between me and Kanye and save me and cutes

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>tip because we're more peers, you know what I'm saying.

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Although I started I started rapping at a really early age.

0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I started re I re became a rapper with Kanye,

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>so we actually got to come up to it was

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>even though people knew me, I still had a new

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>come up with him.

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 2>No, for sure saying a lot of kids got introduced

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to you through that.

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's why so many people think I'm from Chicago.

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, And I can't be like, no,

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>no queens, I'm from wherever you know me from. You

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, And that's how I play the game.

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, and so, so me upholding

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the block makes way more sense than me burning it.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. It's something I helped build,

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying through not just through my time. Literally,

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>it ain't like I'm the most notorious ghost writer for

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>no reason. You know what I'm saying, some real shit

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and so, and it's not a situation where the credit

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't belong to me. Like the game though, with it

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>is right, you know what I'm saying, And so from

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that aspect, it's it's it's not done selfish selfishly when

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I do anything, but it is self I have self

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>awareness of what's going on, you know what I'm saying,

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:22.439
<v Speaker 1>and so, yeah, if I felt like I need to

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.640
<v Speaker 1>step in on something when it comes to him, I'm

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna do that, you know what I'm saying. Because of

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the multiple hats that we both wear in each other's life.

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious you are one of the original pillars of

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 2>good music, which to me is my favorite obviously, like

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>my favorite label probably ever in terms of just my

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 2>personal taste. Is I mean, it seems as if most

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>of the folks that we know good music helping put

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:52.680
<v Speaker 2>like Big Sean or you know, I don't think push

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>your T's rocking with you anymore. Is good music still

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>a thing or is it kind of is that era over?

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>It'll never be it's at this point, if we're being realistic,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the question is is it contemporary at this point?

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as long as the pillars are in motion? Yeah,

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But is it also contingent on legacy at this point? Absolutely?

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, people have come and gone. That's

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>just that's just what has happened at this point. And

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that's fine because it was never set up, in my opinion,

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>for anyone to be stagnant with it either. It was

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.480
<v Speaker 1>always set up. It was set up for me, right,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>It was set up for me. It was set up

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>for JLC. It was set up for John Legend, That's

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.120
<v Speaker 1>who was originally around. You know what I'm saying when

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>they started getting some motion, Common came on board, you

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, and shout out to really though

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>as well. You know, but that tour you went to,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 1>that's good music, you know what I'm saying. And then

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 1>eventually Sarah came on and Bentley came on, and you

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>know then then then Big Sean came and Cuddy came

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>and we met all of them in our travels, you

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So the unique thing about good

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>music is like I don't think nobody ever got signed

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>except for maybe like Casey hill Orf of a demo

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix right right right, right right, But there's nobody got

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>signed off of a demo or good music to my knowledge,

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like everybody literally was a moment.

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Well well no, you know what Sean rapped for him

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:31.440
<v Speaker 2>at the station.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's not a demo, correct, It's not like going

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to Sylvia Rohan's office and playing six songs and helping

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you you go switch that day. Those days are sucking

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>over right right right right right right right right right,

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>So you know what I'm saying. So this is why

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just and that that's good music is the beginning

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>of those days being over. That's what I'm saying. That's

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>basically what I'm trying to articulate good music at the

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>beginning of those days being over. That's not how I

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>got a record deal, you know what I'm saying. That's

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>not how I'm still in busines go sitting there, playing

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>there holping. Somebody got to hear it from music and

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 1>ship like nah, we got to that action, you know

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And so if you ever see me

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>upset about anything or going as somebody, it's I don't

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>like how something's getting done. Not that I'm over here

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>with a chip or no ship like that. I just

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>don't like how some certain shit had got done, Like

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>cause if you didn't have to go, if you didn't

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>have to go do that, then you was ten steps

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:29.959
<v Speaker 1>ahead of everybody because everybody else got to go do that.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>That's that was the game, right for sure.

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>That was a game. Cup had a demo, pus what

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So so once again I'm looking at it

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like you.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Weren't getting signed off your Instagram. You're getting what songs

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 2>are on that tape.

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Right because you ran into somebody who's getting on the

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>road again rich and they looked out, you know, what

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, nobody's perfect, you know what I'm saying.

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just from a fans perspective, it's just it's just

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 2>like an era and like would push it like kind

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>of was like the last Dumber of the I was

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, good music, man, what a fun like that?

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean? But see then that's the thing is just

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>like and that called it. You know, I had to

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>say something about that, and that called the problem for

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the second time with me and Pushing. And I look,

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>anybody who I ever have let be around my son

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>is someone that I have either respect for or I

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>caught a vibe with, you know what I'm saying. And

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:26.239
<v Speaker 1>so you know, and stepping back from it, you know,

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think me or Pushing handled the situation when

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>that was two years ago appropriately, you know what I'm saying.

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I can say that, you know what I mean. I've

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>had time to reflect, you know what I'm saying. And

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>when I even said that he was phar real man,

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>it didn't mean that I don't like for real. I

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>knew Farrell before everybody Pharrell wrapped on beach ROMs in life.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I coached him through his verse in a booth. I've

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>always had a great rapport with Pharrell, you know what

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So when I said it, I wasn't saying it.

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I said it because from that from the perception when

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Pusher came over, he was coming over from being Star

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Trek and being in the clips and being in the

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that those are for real artists, you know what I'm saying.

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>So the thing is, you don't get many opportunities to

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>reinvent or go somewhere else and become bigger, and he

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>ended up with the Tea has become bigger by working

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>with Kanye.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I always upset. I mean, no, no, I mean definitely

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>helps you know when you're on, when you're on runaway.

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, his brother retired from RAT and

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>took a hiatus from RAT.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it helps him push Your Tea is like

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>one of To me, I think it's just one of

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the greatest rappers of all times.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:45.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's fine. But you don't even get the hat

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that opinion if he doesn't go solo.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Right right, right. I think he was gonna go solo

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 2>either way, probably right, But I think going to.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Going solo and having bread going solo is two different things.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.479
<v Speaker 1>Going solo and trying to still figure it out as

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>opposed to somebody who's already legendary run away and then

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that launches your solo.

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Daytona is fucking up there, man, But that's later. Well,

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm to ask you a question outside of listen, isn't it?

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is not slander. I'm saying this is

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>is not Daytona's way later. This is just around the name.

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Is my name come before that? Right? Correct? All right?

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I know I ain't bugging.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I'm curious though, So non Kanye album, take

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>your album out of the discussion. Me and my homie

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 2>were just arguing about this. I think that the crown

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 2>for the greatest non Kanye good music album is only.

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Between two albums B.

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 2>B and Daytona. Am I tripping? It's B or it's Daytona?

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>Right ah? Hold on now, because I can't exclude John

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Legend for his album.

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>That's fair.

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>The greatest. You didn't say John, you say rap, you

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>say greatest. I think great, Okay, it's the greatest. The

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>first legend ab was John Legend album is up there

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>for sure, right right. No disrespect to Daytona, but I

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>know from what about your hip hop from a purest standpoint,

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>then if you say my definitely be ain't no question.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's being like like Be's a perfect album.

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I just I got for sure, come on here.

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 1>B b Wise that intro bise Common has the uh

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:30.959
<v Speaker 1>probably the best beats Kanye ever did on a on

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a joint.

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree, And then I would say that the next

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>tier is probably like a dark Sky Paradise. Uh, I

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 2>really fucked with with with Cool Summer too.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's Kanye on it though.

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>That's fair. I mean, also, let's be.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Clear, I mean a true story, a true story if.

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>The two changes. The first solo album was was was

0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>on Good right, it had a good label on the back.

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do you one better than that, if you

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>really kicking that ship? You kicking and fantasy because we're

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>getting said then I'm saying being I'm saying good Fridays,

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh the good Fridays? Right?

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 2>Why camp? Can we talk about getting those on DSP No?

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I get hit every year when I was.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>So happy because because wasn't The Joy on Good a

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 2>good Friday record? So when The Joy came out on

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Watched the Throne, I was so fucking happy, Say god,

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 2>what was one of the last one.

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I got the we the last Good

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Friday record is chain Heavy.

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 2>And was that that wasn't chain heavy? Was crazy? Back

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>the way? Was what was the one that Cole closed out?

0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Cole had the last verse?

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I forgot the name.

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Just that whole era where everybody had their fucking black

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>what was it called the Rosewood? Yeah, man, Good Friday

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 2>was a fucking Oh that's it.

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Like, if I got to say on your criteria, is

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>being Good Friday and NF Daytona maybe could be fourth,

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, But Daytona got joints on

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the throw, I'm not gonna.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's I mean, that's that's why

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I always like when people even like uh, I feel

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 2>like people are super critical of like that, like twenty

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 2>eighteen year. First of all, the NAS project is solid.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't I hate how I hate you hate the narrative.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I hate the narrative about naz' ZP. Like the cop

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 2>shot the kid is fucking crazy.

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. Uh.

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Also, like Kitsy Ghost is a perfect body of work

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why I was saying, I don't know, because I

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:29.359
<v Speaker 1>was just thinking about it.

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Kisy Ghost is so fucking oh yeah. Yeah, well listen,

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Man on the Moon is is that good music?

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean shit never, I mean, god damn Man on

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>the Moon right right, right, think about that. I'm sure.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, That's why I was like, ooh, b Man on

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the Moon, Daytona.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>That's probably the And then obviously, I mean, yeah, shout

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>to John Legend. John Legends first.

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Album album is crazy.

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Uh no, that's crazy. But just like I said, twenty

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 2>eighteen was crazy because like I fucking I feel like

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>ghost Town. Ghost Town to me is like an all

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>time song, Like not, yes, it is all time. People

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>hated that project. I'm like, how like violence is so crazy?

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I think was just like they No, I think

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the plate is what took away from some

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>of the regard for the art at that point. I

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 1>think the plate was the TMZ ship.

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>There was just so much going on, and the plate was, yeah.

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the Kardashians, It's three fifties, is on.

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Fires on fire.

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so much that It's like, that's right, you

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 1>do do music, you know what I'm saying. And when

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the music was at the forefront of everything, songs like

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>ghost Town was like for sure, ghost Town is definitely

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the same family as Amazing. I agree, you know what

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:01.959
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, But it's just so much So that's when

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole billionaire talk is talking and spoke on and

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just a whole bunch of things kind of you know.

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wrote through the uh, the great lines

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that's in all minds, you know what I'm saying, And yeah,

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it did like a hundred million streams, But it's just

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>so much shit going on that you know, there's no

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>way he that had an all mind in oh seven

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>A and when the shot a video for it, you

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But there's just so much ship.

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot dropping. Every much ship it was, so

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just not even just dropping.

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 2>It's just there's so much going on in life.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You know who got the best beats? You

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>know who got the best beats?

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Beats?

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>The best yay beats? After b wipe everybody, I just said,

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 1>guess who got the best yay beats? Tianna Taylor? Facts Okay,

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>facts of life the Tianna Taylor.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I shought it was fire.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>It just wasn't. It got in my opinion, the mixers

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was rushed, but the actual beats crazy. It's that gonna

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>love you ship is fucking crazy, yo, Yo, So I agree,

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>So let me let me rephrase that, just so I

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>don't get killed on the internet. Honorable mentioned Tianna Taylor

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 1>for sure, Like you couldn't navigate and negotiate those that

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>we named already, but you cannot lead that ship out.

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>That ship is fucking crazy, yo.

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts? I mean, this diddy ships getting crazy.

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>There's been the old Kanye text going viral calling him

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>a fed, right, you think you think he was on

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>some fed ship like filming everybody and ship like obviously

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.279
<v Speaker 2>you probably know more about the inner workings of some

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 2>of this weirdo ship in New York than anybody.

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I was. I do know some things, you know, you

0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm gonna let's take them moment with this,

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>say this. What I think is crazy is the potential

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of Kid Cutty having to testify.

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, because who's I mean, that's the car that

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>got set on.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Fire, right, and he's already concurred with the incident.

0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, also, let me ask you a.

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Question, Yeah, in your opinion, because I and I'm asking

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 3>you because you're in hip hop, you're in the hood,

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:37.760
<v Speaker 3>but you obviously.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Can have the opinion of someone non African American. Right,

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 1>would you consider if Kid Cutty testified against Diddy snitching?

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 2>So I'd like to revert back to my good friend

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Glasses Malone's definition of snitching.

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Okay, kid cutting is a civilian right. That's why that's

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>why I want to hit it from you and so

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and and mind you, let me say this to you.

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Ki Cutty is never really ever I mean, obviously I'm

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>not saying angry, but he's never portrayed himself as a

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>street street.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that he isn't because I don't know,

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:21.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't.

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Know, but at least in the public right, Okay, fair enough.

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>He also was not a conspirator in crime with Diddy,

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 2>so he would not be then telling on someone to

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 2>get out of doing jail time himself.

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>He would be telling on someone based on being a victim. Correct. Right.

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing as somebody trying to say, well,

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 2>somebody ran up into bun Bee's house, right, and then

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 2>are trying like nah, like I don't see that.

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>To be whether fair belligerents would be God based on No,

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so you don't, you don't think at all,

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>not even.

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I think Bune he teaches classes and

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 2>is an entrepreneur and is og at this point. So

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that nobody, nobody is entitled to hold of UGK.

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that. I'm not saying Look at Pimps

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>was alive right now. If he would he have approved

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>of that. Who knows what Pimps's personal evolution on street

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>politics would have been. I do not think if kid

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Cutty testifies against Diddy it's a big deal. I do think.

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I do think Kid Cutty is an entertainer and someone

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 2>who's never portrayed himself to be that. Now, obviously UGK

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 2>has portrayed himselves to be that back in the day,

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:33.399
<v Speaker 2>so maybe that's a different discussion, But I think, yeah, dude,

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy tried to fucking set his.

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Cars on fire.

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>If that allegedly, if that happened, and they give him

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 2>a call, what's he gonna say.

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>No. This went to ask the question, I want to

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? I wanted to get your perspective.

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Do you think if Cutty testifies you, I don't have

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>a notion. I have the I don't have an I

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>don't have a I have the notion. I just don't

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have the viewpoint as far as yay or nay. You

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, because I because I factor both

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the streets in in the belligerents versus the literality of

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the situation at hand, right and the and the personality

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 1>and characteristics of the people involved. You know what I'm saying,

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>did He being a guy from the eighties and the

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>nineties versus Cuddy is a new wave guy and not

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a street guy, and and something aggressive happened? So how

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 1>do you weigh that out?

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 2>I say, you know, hey, if he, if they if

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>they subpoena him, he's I mean, it is what it is, right,

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't trying to set this motherfucker's caring fire right

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 2>right right right. I would say this like I just

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>think I think the whole Diddy situation is just interesting

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:49.799
<v Speaker 2>because it's interesting because I see people, Now, if you

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 2>were if you've been in hip hop and been semi important,

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 2>there's a chance you have a picture with did He.

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a chance you've been to many of his parties

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>he had Grammy after part or is he had BT.

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 2>This is going to tell you someone, this isn't a

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing. It's not like everybody who ever met Diddy

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 2>was hanging out with baby oil. Like then all the

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 2>industry is canceled. I got a picture with Diddy.

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>A lot of the industries about they get canceled.

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I agree with you.

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.919
<v Speaker 1>On listen no, no spoiler alert.

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I shout out to Paul Hayman, the greatest manager

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>of all time. I do agree that. Man, once the

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 2>we start getting names on who's in some of these videos,

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that's when things are going to get very interesting because,

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 2>like you said, like there are you know, I just

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.160
<v Speaker 2>think about like certain rappers who've gone viral for some

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 2>of their interactions on video with Diddy, and I'm like,

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 2>oh man, maybe there was some sort of freaking off gal.

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But nonetheless, I say all that to

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>say that, like, Yo, we've all had pictures with Diddy,

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 2>like did he did? He was one of our idols

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 2>growing up as an entrepreneur. So it's like yeah, Like,

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 2>but that don't mean now I'm saying everybody, but that

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 2>don't mean that you were fucking like even if you

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 2>went to the party, like my one of my Jesus

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'll go to Dinny party, I'd be out

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 2>of that bitch by one in the morning. Because that

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 2>three ship started to get weird.

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>There's announcements made there.

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Is I've never been. I've never been.

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Look, I definitely ven uh like yo, and now it's like,

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:27.319
<v Speaker 1>hey guys, yo, it's five. It's a.

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Whatever goes down after this.

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Fucking around, lay around, right, or maybe you might want

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 1>to have the brothers Mama. Me myself, I went to breakfast. Yeah,

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I grabbed a couple of joints. Slid about it there. Yeah,

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So, but that was

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>in a public joint, not at somebody I've never been

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>to nobody, Right.

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be interesting. I think that I think

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, there's also a good chance he

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>gets at all this. You know, we'll see. I don't know.

0:44:57.880 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's a rico, so you would think it's a

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 2>federal rico. Usually they only push forward with a rico

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.799
<v Speaker 2>if it's like it feels like they can I.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Must just say this, nobody saw what happened with Max B.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, Max B, who's been in prison for what

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>fuck twenty years? Almost?

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you see something happening to somebody?

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 2>No, what do you mean?

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you see anything happen to anybody that got Max

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 1>B put away? As long as he been put away?

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:30.919
<v Speaker 1>This is this is a common sense question.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe. So no, right, no, no, everyone around

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Diddy snitching.

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's be clear.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you have to? I'm saying his because think about

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>all his staff that are just trying to make it

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:44.680
<v Speaker 2>in the music industry that were completely complaint.

0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:46.959
<v Speaker 1>That's carot dangling. That's one thing.

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Is that the girl or no, no, what's the name

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 2>of the girl. It's the sistant they're trying to call

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.720
<v Speaker 2>the new like the Jessling Maxwell, his like official assistant

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>in the White Chick. I think everyone's snitching, though, How.

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Did you get the charge of the kidnap? And let

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>me ask you a question. Let me ask you that question.

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>How do you even get charge of kidnapping?

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I think that would have been the video we saw

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>right with Cassie. All right, yeah, right, so that's on video, Yeah, tada,

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be interesting is gonna be fucking interesting.

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:20.919
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to be David Blaine. Let's see where

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:21.879
<v Speaker 1>his rabbit's coming from.

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent what you know? Obviously, Like I said,

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 2>that last Tribe album, which would have been the first

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 2>post Fife death album, incredible body of work. Uh, would

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:40.080
<v Speaker 2>there have you and Tip talked about doing another album

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>or well?

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's been working on the LL project for

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:44.279
<v Speaker 1>a few years now.

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 2>LL project's hard too. I know he's been executive producing that.

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 2>But I just wonder if, like, is that like the

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>last Tribe album we'll ever get? And is there any

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>five vocals that we haven't heard yet that exist?

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I have Okay, you know what I mean, But I

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I know the group has been inducted into

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the Rock holl and that that induction ceremonies in November.

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see, you know what I mean? Yeah, we'll see.

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. I haven't. We haven't had that conversation.

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.279
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I mean, I take another c Tip

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>solo album too. It's been fuck what was that oh

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>eight oh nine? Yeah?

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:24.799
<v Speaker 2>That album was crazy too.

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The renaissance is dope, Yo.

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 2>What happens to first of all I remember specifically, they're

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 2>being talked that Kendrick and Kanye have like an album's

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>worth of unreleased songs.

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Together, right that mad Live.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:42.839
<v Speaker 2>Have you heard these songs? Yeah?

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>It was over mad levies.

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>How so there's there's like an album's worth of Kendrick

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Kanye songs over mad Lib production. What happens to this music?

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And what does it sound like?

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 2>How great is that? That sounds fucking like a Grammy?

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just think it just needed to be structured,

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but the idea and

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:09.439
<v Speaker 1>the ideas that were Yeah, I heard the whole thing. Yeah,

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>it was there.

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 2>It's there, It's crazy, it's there.

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean just like you know, he worked with Dre.

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I went to Drake Crib and we we cooked up,

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, shout out to doctor Dre. We had an amazing,

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>amazing time just being with doctor Dre is you know,

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, for me, it was just like, Yo, this

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the motherfucker made deep cover when he was in high

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>school and I don't fan out like, but that shit happened,

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like yo.

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>And even when Dre, you know, I was writing with

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 1>him and he asked me to vocal something I was

0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 1>just when I was sick though, so I ain't really

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:47.760
<v Speaker 1>maximized it because I was like just diagnosed with lupis.

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But I flew out just on the strength. And I

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been even in California at the time that

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic was at the height, and shit, everybody was

0:48:56.239 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 1>catching COVID like the Cooties for sure and ship and

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I still came because it was like

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 1>like one of those once in a lifetime bucket list

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.839
<v Speaker 1>things and whatever. But but yeah, you know, so there's

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of music that's.

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 2>There's just so much music I feel like that's in

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 2>the error that we will probably never hear. But they

0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 2>were supposed to be cool winner, right. I heard one

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:20.840
<v Speaker 2>record off of there that was kind of like a

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Mercy part two. It was called uh Wins Turgo Gravis.

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 2>It was called trash Bags Lifted produced. It might have

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 2>been talking about making it rain so much to have

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 2>they bring trash bags out. It was like the same

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 2>lineup as Mercy, right right right, But that.

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Was a yeah.

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, I always just wondered because like you hear like

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 2>like and you also you'll see yea get in with

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>people and you be like, well, whatever happened to that?

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>Like right? Right? You know, it's the course of It's

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the course of creativity.

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious, like for you man, like being a dad

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and managing your son. And he's been rapping since he

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:53.439
<v Speaker 2>was howled now? And how old is he now?

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 1>He's been rapping for ten years? He just turned thirteen?

0:49:57.080 --> 0:50:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Crazy? Yeah, what has that been like for you? Like?

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And what are kind of like the the difficulties of

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:07.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to break an artist as your son, you know,

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 2>also an artist as a child, right literally.

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's more more of that than the sun part.

0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>The some part is an advantage because he's my son,

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So whatever is invested is

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the automatic ROI just for spending time with my son

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, right, But you know, I mean obviously

0:50:31.400 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>there's there was the phase of he's cute and we

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 1>respect what you're doing, but do we really look at

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>him like his own artist? Then it gets to a

0:50:44.080 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>spot where it becomes where his peer group looks at

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>him as an artist, which was always the intent, you

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying.

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Because you really want other kids to consume the music.

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Right, right? I mean but it started because he's my son.

0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:06.839
<v Speaker 1>The first available platform is next to me, right, and

0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>so you know the first time he kind of has

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>spun out on a viral tip was when he wrapped

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 1>up a cop shot the kids ironically, you know, ironically,

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Puff posted it, you know what I mean, Revolt aired it,

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and Pusher tweeted, tweeted it out,

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Kanye tweeted it out, and eventually, uh Kim Kardashian plugged

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 1>him with Nikki and then he had got the dream

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>about Nikki video put on nicki page and that had

0:51:40.400 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>three million views on ig crazy. You know what I'm saying,

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 1>which which now we're not this is what comes beyond

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>him being my son and it becomes he he's Kaden

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the crown holder, you know what I'm saying. And then

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>so which is great, but you know, we play a

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 1>game where you're only as good as your last game,

0:51:58.160 --> 0:52:01.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, And so maybe sometimes the

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>difficult thing is that is has been and we get

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:08.879
<v Speaker 1>we're in a sweet spot now, but you know, did

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the grown pains of hot and cold and going back

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to the lab, and you know, while I did this,

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 1>isn't that enough. It is because you're enough. But in

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>this game that we play is never enough, you know

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And that's the game that we play.

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Especially because I feel like for his demographic, like he

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 2>almost has to shoot shots in the algorithm all the time.

0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, And so that's why I said, we're in a

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>sweet spot where that's coming together, you know what I'm saying.

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>And we're going to continue to build and you know,

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.960
<v Speaker 1>like we got a collab album coming right after my

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:51.439
<v Speaker 1>new album called on the One on two, and then

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:54.960
<v Speaker 1>next year he'll be putting out his official debut album,

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So you know, the plan

0:52:57.239 --> 0:53:00.080
<v Speaker 1>is in place and things are coming together, and so

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>it's been well worth the journey. It's the greatest joy

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 1>of my life. He's my son. Yeah, you know what

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.239
<v Speaker 2>That's dope man. So uh, he's on your album too,

0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 2>like you said, right, what's the name of the new album? Yours?

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 1>N he's doing business with you, that's doing business with you.

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Next Friday, Next Friday, the twenty seventh, the twenty seventh

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>of September, and you know that's that's when we go

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>into the Zech Cassro place.

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I love it. What's it like, man, how's this Vultures

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 2>era of just kind of the journey Ben, because it

0:53:30.360 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 2>seems like I was in the Four Seasons in Vegas

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:35.719
<v Speaker 2>that night that he was, I was supposed to do

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.480
<v Speaker 2>his event. Well he kind of did an event. It

0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:38.120
<v Speaker 2>was kind of weird.

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I haven't been around for the whole Vultures, know

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:40.839
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 2>You just left China.

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I loved China, you know, because I couldn't.

0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Do I know, he shed some of the fat on

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 2>his team. It feels like, you know.

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Some Yeah, like I said, I wasn't around because I

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>literally took the last two years to do my album, right,

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? After Donda, I needed a break,

0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And because the way I'm

0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>at life, you know, I had to put out something.

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I had to put out my joint, you know. I mean,

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:08.439
<v Speaker 1>like I had the resources I didn't have. I wasn't

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:11.720
<v Speaker 1>sitting here waiting for an advance. You know, my brains straight.

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I got I set my own label up, I got destroyed.

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I did the whole ship and so you know, part

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:23.879
<v Speaker 1>of even going to China was just like just you know,

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>our friendship got to come for anything. You know what

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, our brotherhood, that that got to supersede because

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 1>that's how the business was built. You know what I'm saying.

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't have we We wouldn't be who we are

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:42.320
<v Speaker 1>if we if we didn't do this. You know what

0:54:42.320 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, that this ship is one point, with your

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 1>dogs and anything else. If y'all ain't doing this, leave

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it alone, you know what I'm saying. So you know

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 1>we've seen each other, was like and then we just

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:55.680
<v Speaker 1>chopped in, just caught up and shouldn't you know. Even

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:59.640
<v Speaker 1>yesterday we was just talking laughing and I was having

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to tell him about the ramifications of pub being in

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>the md M d C, which is the tombs in

0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>New York. I'm like, the Wolves is the Wolves is

0:55:11.520 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 1>on either on payroll or looking like Wylie Coyote, you

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. And so that's our one two,

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So, but I did get

0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the bill with Tie as well while I was out there.

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:29.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, we definitely want to connect and ship, so

0:55:30.280 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, we got the future in front of us.

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>It feels good.

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Can you give me a story on what at what

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:41.640
<v Speaker 2>point in time. Did you hear the spaceship beat? Who's

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 2>whose verses were laid? First? Spaceship with GLC record. That

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>was a GLC record first, it was a.

0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 1>GOOC record first, and he asked me to get on it,

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and then Kanye did his verse.

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Got it, So technically he laid his ship last.

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, technically he laid it at once. I

0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 1>rapped on it. Then he went and was like, oh,

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a joint because he was only doing the

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 1>chorus and it wasn't no, you know, Tony Williams actually

0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:09.880
<v Speaker 1>his last because that's the top layer of everything in

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:11.840
<v Speaker 1>him adding that and you know what I'm saying, but

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 1>just the win. It was just the Marvin Gaye loop.

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.920
<v Speaker 1>It was JLC and he was singing the joint because

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:21.359
<v Speaker 1>they both worked in the mall and that was like

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 1>their connection musically for Kanye to tap in. Like that's

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 1>how I ended up just doing it and then it

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 1>just coincidentally I had a job history from being out

0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:35.959
<v Speaker 1>the tribe. So that's how I think.

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 2>That that song is one of the most relatable songs

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 2>ever because no one had ever rapped about working at

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:42.240
<v Speaker 2>the fucking mall.

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Or falling off and rapped that brother vers I remember

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:47.799
<v Speaker 1>having to take the dollar cab, coming home real late

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>at night, standing on my feet all damn day, trying

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>to make this thing right, and having one of my

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 1>coworkers say, Yo, you look just like this kid I

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 1>was seeing in the old Bust and Rohns video the

0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.399
<v Speaker 1>night will Easy, Come Easy go have that saying goes

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 1>no more broad service cars in the TV shows, it

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:05.320
<v Speaker 1>all had got snatched from me, A and alls and

0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.919
<v Speaker 1>a faculties all turned their back on me and didn't

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.640
<v Speaker 1>want to hear rap from me, So naturally actually had

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to face things. Factually had to be a catastrophe, had

0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the fire standing back at me, because nothing's dead, nothing's fit,

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to ever go back there, so

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I won't be taking no days off you know the rest.

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 1>What about Gone Can I've been pouring out looking for the.

0:57:26.480 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>That's one of my favorite. That's one of my favorite,

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 2>but that's one of my favorite verses, like how did that? Like, like,

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 2>like what point of the creation of Gone did you get?

0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 2>It happens such a crazy record.

0:57:38.080 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So we're working on late registration. I think I told

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the story before, but so Kanye's original we would ask

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>to rap on j Lo's album. Kanye's verse on Gone

0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 1>was on to get right record for Wow. He wanted

0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 1>me to rap on it. Sony was like, we don't

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.120
<v Speaker 1>know if we want consequence on it. If he not

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>on it, I'm not doing it.

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Do it. So we had that verse and it's crazy

0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 2>because so then he puts.

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 1>That on going Yo, I didn't do the j Lo

0:58:17.280 --> 0:58:21.360
<v Speaker 1>ship because of this. I need fire we in La.

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, I gotta go. I gotta leave. Then

0:58:24.400 --> 0:58:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go to Queens. I go to Queens. Take

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the beat with me, go to Queens. Sleep on the

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:38.520
<v Speaker 1>couch uh at my people's crib. I dreamt the verse.

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>I woke up and caught and said, booke me time,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it. Now it came in the whole. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been pouring out some looking for the fact that my

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<v Speaker 1>palt I dreamt that shit, and so it only took

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<v Speaker 1>me like two takes. I had it in my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I dreamt it. I literally woke up. It was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>in a sweat, like because I probably it's probably at

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<v Speaker 1>one point going with like the number twenty five best

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<v Speaker 1>all time records at the year it came out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of my favorite records. Yeah, even the way

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<v Speaker 2>he came in on.

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<v Speaker 1>It, like yeah, and I mean so after I did

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<v Speaker 1>that verse, he did the last verse Okay, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>second version, the blackout, Yeah, yeah, because that comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that no, I can't. I can't just I

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<v Speaker 1>can't let this man right, because because if it's only

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<v Speaker 1>just the first one, maybe, yeah, it's up for debate.

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<v Speaker 1>If I caught him, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I would go back here now and remember Cam's you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. So so you know that's the

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<v Speaker 1>that's going.

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<v Speaker 2>That ship was legendary. Man. Look, your new album is

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<v Speaker 2>dropping the twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventh, September twenty seventh. Go run it up. Please go

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<v Speaker 1>run it up. A man is overdue for his not men.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I Recollett and.

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<v Speaker 1>I my own label. It's one O two records distributed

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<v Speaker 1>through had Maker. Shout out to Tony B and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I have given it is my goal all I And

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, if you if you're a fan of anything

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<v Speaker 1>I've given to anybody else, when you hear this project,

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna know what's up with me. For real. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my goal, humbly, it's my goal.

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you actually been working out of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, two years after Donda. I just like you.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to do a body of work. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm ready. I'm super ready.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's up, man. Well, we can't wait to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you pulling up brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Sorry wo