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Speaker 1: Yo, what up? This is Consequence. You know one on

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Speaker 1: two was in the building, and make sure you check

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Speaker 1: me out on a bootleg keV podcast. Let's go, yo.

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Speaker 2: Man, Bootleg keV podcast special guests here the legend Consequence.

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Speaker 1: Yo. What the building?

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. I think the last time I interviewed you

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Speaker 2: was with x V in like two thousand and ten

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Speaker 2: or eleven in Vegas. I think we did we might

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Speaker 2: have linked. Yeah, we probably did do Phoenix. But the

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Speaker 2: first time then for sure you had like a random

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Speaker 2: show on the strip in front of the New York

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Shout out to Tony from Red Bull. We did

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Speaker 1: the Bull joint. Yeah, yeah, I remember that joint.

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Speaker 2: XV Man. Shout out to x V.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to XV. Wherever you at, man, Holla, man, word, you.

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Speaker 2: Could just move it if you want. You just came

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Speaker 2: back from China, uh yay, and Ty obviously did the

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Speaker 2: Vultures experience out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How was that, man? Because I mean I heard the

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Speaker 2: set was like historic in terms of just how long,

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Speaker 2: how many songs are done, and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was about I want to say, ninety ninety records.

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Speaker 1: He ran through like a ninety piece raz.

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Speaker 2: Does he like know that that's what's about to happen

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Speaker 2: or is it just like just keep going.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of bowl because you know, obviously there's

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Speaker 1: some parameters to the set, but then there's the feeling

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Speaker 1: and then there's the crowd and you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: and then it's just vibes, you know what I mean? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Or so that just it was live, Yo, talk to

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Speaker 2: me about like how crazy it is, like just you know,

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Speaker 2: putting you in like a time machine and going back

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Speaker 2: to like the college Dropout tour when you guys had

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Speaker 2: like John Legend and maybe being ben I Ree and dilated.

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Speaker 2: People's was opening up and.

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Speaker 1: You guys, Oh I don't have to do that. You

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Speaker 1: was there.

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Speaker 2: I was there the pictures Yeah long ago, right, I

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Speaker 2: was there right right? But know how crazy is it

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Speaker 2: just to think like like did you have like obviously

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Speaker 2: was like the hottest rapper still, like you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, But shit's just crazy that the beginning and

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Speaker 2: then y'all had the Spaceship Dance y'all were doing on

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Speaker 2: stage with GLC right right right right up. Yeah, me

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Speaker 2: and my boys will trying to do that the.

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Speaker 1: Kimo Sorrio that was Kimo Sorio used to be the

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Speaker 1: chief better than the source. Yeah, of course, Hung Kanye

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Speaker 1: had a friendship at the time, and she suggested that

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Speaker 1: there'd be some kind of I don't know, the Four

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Speaker 1: Tops or some ship. But so that was the suggestion.

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Speaker 1: This is like kind of make it more than just uh,

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Speaker 1: just you know, brainstorming count and just came up with that,

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Speaker 1: was just like, no, I'm not doing the Spaceship dance, dog,

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Speaker 1: I don't do the Spaceship dance. And then next thing,

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Speaker 1: time it was like a quirky, unexpected favorite thing of

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Speaker 1: the of the of the tour just when we would now,

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Speaker 1: mind you, Spaceship was a lot of people's favorite record

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Speaker 1: for sure, but that part in particular was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do that ship tonight type of shit, you

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Speaker 2: So it worked out, not for sure, it's crazy too

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Speaker 2: because like if you go back then, I remember I

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Speaker 2: John Legend had a mixtape before anybody knew.

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Speaker 1: Who he was. I had a mixtape.

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Speaker 2: You had a mixtape.

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Speaker 1: I had. I pinely this. I gotta due take credit

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Speaker 1: for this on the strength of the hustle I because

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Speaker 1: remember I put take them to the cleaners out, yes,

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Speaker 1: at the same time. So my thing was wasn't the

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Speaker 1: first This wasn't the first time that I was on tour, right,

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Speaker 1: you got a bear in mind. I was on drive

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Speaker 2: You're like, yo, I'm gonna get something at that merchant.

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Speaker 1: Right right now. The merching table for me was just

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Speaker 1: like it was literally like a corner. It was like

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Speaker 1: sent out. He was like, wait, I got it, wait

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Speaker 1: It was free paper. Yeah, it was free paper, you

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Speaker 1: Sony deal because we just was on ten with a

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Speaker 1: hustle in addition to being with Kanye. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it's you know, it's one thing to

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Speaker 1: it's not with the beautiful thing about Kanye's story, you know,

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Speaker 1: just from being included, just from the houseide looking it

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Speaker 2: It was it was earned. It was crashed and clovested in.

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Speaker 2: I remember he was on tour with like Toy Live

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Speaker 2: common It was common right?

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Speaker 1: Or was it it might have managers homie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like you said, like he really like it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like he was just like or like like he

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Speaker 2: of like well, I felt like it was kind of

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Speaker 2: like an afterthought. He was looked at as a producer,

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Speaker 1: Was that Well, the thing is this right and fairness

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Speaker 1: to jay Z. Right, you have a whole roster of

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Speaker 1: what of artists that are in your mold right? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know exactly what to do with you know exactly

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Speaker 1: what to do with bleak you know exactly what means, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure? Right, then you get the gifts of Sparks, right,

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Speaker 1: do the High ninety seven joint. Right. So then in

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Speaker 1: addition to that, you know, g and hip Hop start

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Speaker 1: production to him having now just Blaze bringing Bincon and

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So if you Jay and you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need nothing nothing, right, let alone something

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Speaker 1: Right, right? And then and then we're trying to re

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Speaker 1: reinvent the will with you being a rapper producer instead

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Speaker 1: Snoop Dog. Right. So the producer is good, but he's

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Speaker 1: not as good as the rail rapper, right. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: At from a moss at good.

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Speaker 1: From a from a stereotype and a stigma point of view,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, and in fairness,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that kind of changed the course

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because I never I never

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Speaker 1: fell off with the business didn't work out, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But that's why when the good, the bad,

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Speaker 1: So then he don't got especially don't got nothing to lose,

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Speaker 1: But even before we get to that killed. But even

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Speaker 1: by the heavy hitters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had the heavy hitters, Like by the way,

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Speaker 1: Shot to the heavy Yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to

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Speaker 1: President Day Big Spanish, my dog legend or the legend

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Speaker 2: Right, that didn't work there back then would be considered

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Speaker 1: Right because but but and that's because his producer money

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Speaker 1: once he clicked it all comes with him, right.

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Speaker 2: You know What's Crazy is There was like the early

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Speaker 2: Kanye like mixtape era, and then he would he ended

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Speaker 2: up using some of those verses on like other people

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Speaker 2: shit or like even What's Crazy is Home was a

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Speaker 2: mixtape record that two albums later became Homecoming, Cold, New

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Speaker 2: Oprah was crazy, like he had so much and the ship.

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Speaker 2: Your guys just mixtape shit. It's just just crazy together.

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Speaker 2: And I just feel like people forget about that era. Yay,

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Speaker 2: like you go on YouTube and just I think people

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Speaker 1: Right volume one.

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Speaker 2: Was it was it easy to get clear to release

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Speaker 2: Whenever he I don't know if he's ever going to

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Speaker 2: What is the you know, one of the more random

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Speaker 1: Guys say that without no tone, that's to me, that's

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Speaker 2: Like if you if you I fucked with the Black

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Speaker 1: If you were one of the people who ushered in

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Speaker 2: Right and the whole honestly, that whole whatever you want

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Speaker 1: Whatever you know, like listen, listen, all spawns from tribe. Though,

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Speaker 2: For sure, I would say tribe.

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Speaker 1: Look at the end of the day, they all came

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Speaker 2: Right, you would say, so, so that rock that Rockets

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: I would say that. All those people will probably say that.

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Speaker 2: Man sound bomb. Oh yeah, yeah that song with Tash

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Speaker 1: Ready to rock them? Like? Oh my god? It was hard, right,

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Speaker 1: But so at the end of the day, I'm big

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Speaker 2: But was it an online thing or a real life thing?

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Speaker 1: Definitely not no real life thing. It's definitely not no

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's not I asked for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't paying attention enough. I just know surface

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Speaker 1: And of it at the beginning. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: for sure? Why would that doesn't make any sense? I

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Speaker 1: this is Kanye post poblow, right and the Yeezies is

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Speaker 2: Do you think, uh, you guys could ever put it

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Speaker 1: You're not doing anything without a check fair enough. That's

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying no. I'm definitely not saying yes. But

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Speaker 2: Again, I don't know the details what was saying.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what saying. I mean. I know there's

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Speaker 2: I don't I also don't know what was said.

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Speaker 1: So I'm coming from and I think the other thing

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Speaker 2: I feel like when you're when you are caught up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we men were me. I mean, I'm a man,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm assuming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's no apologies. So that's my first single that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that record is crazy. I have Chris Rock on.

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Speaker 2: The album Fire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, a skit. It's a verse.

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Speaker 1: No? Stream of consciousness consciousness verse. But it's really dope

438
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: the record. The record is corre relationship advice.

439
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: That sounds hard.

440
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dope.

441
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 2: It sounds like some.

442
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah it's and Alex Osley Uh from The Honestly Family

443
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: is singing.

444
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: The chorus, oh hard.

445
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

446
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: Yes.

447
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 1: I have Way and I on my album. And I

448
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: was one of the runner ups on America Io. She's

449
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: like my Kelly Price worked on a bunch of records

450
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 1: and she know she had a breakout moment on Idol.

451
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: So Fire Yeah, and I produced eighty percent of.

452
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 2: It, oh ship, Yeah, so you're behind the beats and the.

453
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: Bars, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

454
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: Who produced the other twenty percent?

455
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 1: Kanye did Blood Stain, Fire and Call like I said,

456
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: Angel and Fetti, uh, and myself did Overdose and fire

457
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: Man and Keiso.

458
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: I'll be having the same alerts, bro shout to that ring,

459
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 2: that ring, move back. Somebody walks by your fucking even

460
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: on the street outside the ring, girl walking their dog.

461
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: God damn right door right right? So you know, so yeah,

462
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 1: we we I'm very happy. I you know, it's been

463
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: a long a good minute since day job, but I

464
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: could say like I waited my turn like a real nigga,

465
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 1: and I'm excited about about what's to come.

466
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: What you know, what I sh about you is you're,

467
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: you know, really a very rare breed of loyal in

468
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: hip hop and the way because I feel like, for

469
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: better or worse, uh, And I think a lot of

470
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: Kanye's more controversial takes have aged a lot better than

471
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: we'd all like to admit. We won't get into specifically

472
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: which ones are those takes, but you have kind of

473
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: for better or worse however the public has felt about. Yeah,

474
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: you always defended him relentlessly.

475
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's defending them pro se. I'm

476
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: just I'm me, you know what I mean, And I'm

477
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: unapologetically me. And when I say that, I say that

478
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: to say that the loyalty thing is not something that

479
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: I put forth is on cont I do it just

480
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: because to your naturally, because of who I am, And

481
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: if I do disagree with something because of my respect

482
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: for myself number one, and my respect for our relationship

483
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: and the things that we've uh you know, have built

484
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: together and shares memories, then yeah, my guy who is

485
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: multiple uh wears multiple hats in my life, he's you know,

486
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: he's he's the plug in business. Oftentimes he's been big

487
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: bro in the streets. Often times he's been my kid brother.

488
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We are It's a different

489
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: relationship between me and Kanye and save me and cutes

490
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: tip because we're more peers, you know what I'm saying.

491
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: Although I started I started rapping at a really early age.

492
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: I started re I re became a rapper with Kanye,

493
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: so we actually got to come up to it was

494
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: even though people knew me, I still had a new

495
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: come up with him.

496
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: No, for sure saying a lot of kids got introduced

497
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: to you through that.

498
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: So that's why so many people think I'm from Chicago.

499
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I can't be like, no,

500
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: no queens, I'm from wherever you know me from. You

501
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And that's how I play the game.

502
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and so, so me upholding

503
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: the block makes way more sense than me burning it.

504
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's something I helped build,

505
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying through not just through my time. Literally,

506
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: it ain't like I'm the most notorious ghost writer for

507
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: no reason. You know what I'm saying, some real shit

508
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: and so, and it's not a situation where the credit

509
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: doesn't belong to me. Like the game though, with it

510
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: is right, you know what I'm saying, And so from

511
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: that aspect, it's it's it's not done selfish selfishly when

512
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: I do anything, but it is self I have self

513
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: awareness of what's going on, you know what I'm saying,

514
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: and so, yeah, if I felt like I need to

515
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: step in on something when it comes to him, I'm

516
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: gonna do that, you know what I'm saying. Because of

517
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: the multiple hats that we both wear in each other's life.

518
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm curious you are one of the original pillars of

519
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: good music, which to me is my favorite obviously, like

520
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: my favorite label probably ever in terms of just my

521
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: personal taste. Is I mean, it seems as if most

522
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: of the folks that we know good music helping put

523
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 2: like Big Sean or you know, I don't think push

524
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: your T's rocking with you anymore. Is good music still

525
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: a thing or is it kind of is that era over?

526
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: It'll never be it's at this point, if we're being realistic,

527
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: I think the question is is it contemporary at this point?

528
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, as long as the pillars are in motion? Yeah,

529
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: But is it also contingent on legacy at this point? Absolutely?

530
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, people have come and gone. That's

531
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: just that's just what has happened at this point. And

532
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: that's fine because it was never set up, in my opinion,

533
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: for anyone to be stagnant with it either. It was

534
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: always set up. It was set up for me, right,

535
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: It was set up for me. It was set up

536
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: for JLC. It was set up for John Legend, That's

537
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: who was originally around. You know what I'm saying when

538
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: they started getting some motion, Common came on board, you

539
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and shout out to really though

540
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: as well. You know, but that tour you went to,

541
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: that's good music, you know what I'm saying. And then

542
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: eventually Sarah came on and Bentley came on, and you

543
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: know then then then Big Sean came and Cuddy came

544
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: and we met all of them in our travels, you

545
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So the unique thing about good

546
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: music is like I don't think nobody ever got signed

547
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: except for maybe like Casey hill Orf of a demo

548
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: Phoenix right right right, right right, But there's nobody got

549
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: signed off of a demo or good music to my knowledge,

550
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: like everybody literally was a moment.

551
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: Well well no, you know what Sean rapped for him

552
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: at the station.

553
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: Right, that's not a demo, correct, It's not like going

554
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: to Sylvia Rohan's office and playing six songs and helping

555
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: you you go switch that day. Those days are sucking

556
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: over right right right right right right right right right,

557
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying. So this is why

558
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: it's just and that that's good music is the beginning

559
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: of those days being over. That's what I'm saying. That's

560
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: basically what I'm trying to articulate good music at the

561
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: beginning of those days being over. That's not how I

562
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: got a record deal, you know what I'm saying. That's

563
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: not how I'm still in busines go sitting there, playing

564
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: there holping. Somebody got to hear it from music and

565
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: ship like nah, we got to that action, you know

566
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so if you ever see me

567
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: upset about anything or going as somebody, it's I don't

568
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: like how something's getting done. Not that I'm over here

569
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: with a chip or no ship like that. I just

570
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: don't like how some certain shit had got done, Like

571
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: cause if you didn't have to go, if you didn't

572
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: have to go do that, then you was ten steps

573
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: ahead of everybody because everybody else got to go do that.

574
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: That's that was the game, right for sure.

575
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: That was a game. Cup had a demo, pus what

576
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so once again I'm looking at it

577
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: like you.

578
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: Weren't getting signed off your Instagram. You're getting what songs

579
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: are on that tape.

580
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: Right because you ran into somebody who's getting on the

581
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: road again rich and they looked out, you know, what

582
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, nobody's perfect, you know what I'm saying.

583
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, just from a fans perspective, it's just it's just

584
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: like an era and like would push it like kind

585
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: of was like the last Dumber of the I was

586
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: just like, oh, good music, man, what a fun like that?

587
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean? But see then that's the thing is just

588
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: like and that called it. You know, I had to

589
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: say something about that, and that called the problem for

590
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: the second time with me and Pushing. And I look,

591
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: anybody who I ever have let be around my son

592
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: is someone that I have either respect for or I

593
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: caught a vibe with, you know what I'm saying. And

594
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 1: so you know, and stepping back from it, you know,

595
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't think me or Pushing handled the situation when

596
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: that was two years ago appropriately, you know what I'm saying.

597
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: I can say that, you know what I mean. I've

598
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: had time to reflect, you know what I'm saying. And

599
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: when I even said that he was phar real man,

600
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: it didn't mean that I don't like for real. I

601
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: knew Farrell before everybody Pharrell wrapped on beach ROMs in life.

602
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: I coached him through his verse in a booth. I've

603
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: always had a great rapport with Pharrell, you know what

604
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean. So when I said it, I wasn't saying it.

605
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: I said it because from that from the perception when

606
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Pusher came over, he was coming over from being Star

607
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: Trek and being in the clips and being in the

608
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: that those are for real artists, you know what I'm saying.

609
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: So the thing is, you don't get many opportunities to

610
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: reinvent or go somewhere else and become bigger, and he

611
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: ended up with the Tea has become bigger by working

612
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: with Kanye.

613
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always upset. I mean, no, no, I mean definitely

614
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: helps you know when you're on, when you're on runaway.

615
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, his brother retired from RAT and

616
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: took a hiatus from RAT.

617
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: I think it helps him push Your Tea is like

618
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: one of To me, I think it's just one of

619
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: the greatest rappers of all times.

620
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: And that's fine. But you don't even get the hat

621
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: that opinion if he doesn't go solo.

622
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Right right, right. I think he was gonna go solo

623
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: either way, probably right, But I think going to.

624
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: Going solo and having bread going solo is two different things.

625
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: Going solo and trying to still figure it out as

626
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: opposed to somebody who's already legendary run away and then

627
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: that launches your solo.

628
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: Daytona is fucking up there, man, But that's later. Well,

629
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: I'm to ask you a question outside of listen, isn't it?

630
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: I mean, this is not slander. I'm saying this is

631
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: is not Daytona's way later. This is just around the name.

632
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 1: Is my name come before that? Right? Correct? All right?

633
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: I know I ain't bugging.

634
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm curious though, So non Kanye album, take

635
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: your album out of the discussion. Me and my homie

636
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: were just arguing about this. I think that the crown

637
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: for the greatest non Kanye good music album is only.

638
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: Between two albums B.

639
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: B and Daytona. Am I tripping? It's B or it's Daytona?

640
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: Right ah? Hold on now, because I can't exclude John

641
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: Legend for his album.

642
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: That's fair.

643
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: The greatest. You didn't say John, you say rap, you

644
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: say greatest. I think great, Okay, it's the greatest. The

645
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: first legend ab was John Legend album is up there

646
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: for sure, right right. No disrespect to Daytona, but I

647
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: know from what about your hip hop from a purest standpoint,

648
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: then if you say my definitely be ain't no question.

649
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: I think it's being like like Be's a perfect album.

650
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: I just I got for sure, come on here.

651
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: B b Wise that intro bise Common has the uh

652
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: probably the best beats Kanye ever did on a on

653
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: a joint.

654
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: I agree, And then I would say that the next

655
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: tier is probably like a dark Sky Paradise. Uh, I

656
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: really fucked with with with Cool Summer too.

657
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Uh, that's Kanye on it though.

658
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean, also, let's be.

659
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Clear, I mean a true story, a true story if.

660
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: The two changes. The first solo album was was was

661
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: on Good right, it had a good label on the back.

662
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do you one better than that, if you

663
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: really kicking that ship? You kicking and fantasy because we're

664
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: getting said then I'm saying being I'm saying good Fridays,

665
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: Oh the good Fridays? Right?

666
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: Why camp? Can we talk about getting those on DSP No?

667
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: I get hit every year when I was.

668
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: So happy because because wasn't The Joy on Good a

669
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: good Friday record? So when The Joy came out on

670
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: Watched the Throne, I was so fucking happy, Say god,

671
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: what was one of the last one.

672
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: First of all, I got the we the last Good

673
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Friday record is chain Heavy.

674
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: And was that that wasn't chain heavy? Was crazy? Back

675
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: the way? Was what was the one that Cole closed out?

676
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: Cole had the last verse?

677
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: I forgot the name.

678
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: Just that whole era where everybody had their fucking black

679
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: what was it called the Rosewood? Yeah, man, Good Friday

680
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: was a fucking Oh that's it.

681
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: Like, if I got to say on your criteria, is

682
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: being Good Friday and NF Daytona maybe could be fourth,

683
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But Daytona got joints on

684
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: the throw, I'm not gonna.

685
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's I mean, that's that's why

686
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: I always like when people even like uh, I feel

687
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 2: like people are super critical of like that, like twenty

688
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: eighteen year. First of all, the NAS project is solid.

689
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: I don't I hate how I hate you hate the narrative.

690
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: I hate the narrative about naz' ZP. Like the cop

691
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: shot the kid is fucking crazy.

692
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Uh.

693
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: Also, like Kitsy Ghost is a perfect body of work

694
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: in my opinion.

695
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: That's why I was saying, I don't know, because I

696
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: was just thinking about it.

697
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: Kisy Ghost is so fucking oh yeah. Yeah, well listen,

698
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: Man on the Moon is is that good music?

699
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

700
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: I mean shit never, I mean, god damn Man on

701
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: the Moon right right, right, think about that. I'm sure.

702
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Right, That's why I was like, ooh, b Man on

703
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: the Moon, Daytona.

704
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: That's probably the And then obviously, I mean, yeah, shout

705
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: to John Legend. John Legends first.

706
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: Album album is crazy.

707
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: Uh no, that's crazy. But just like I said, twenty

708
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: eighteen was crazy because like I fucking I feel like

709
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: ghost Town. Ghost Town to me is like an all

710
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: time song, Like not, yes, it is all time. People

711
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: hated that project. I'm like, how like violence is so crazy?

712
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: Like I think was just like they No, I think

713
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: I think the plate is what took away from some

714
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: of the regard for the art at that point. I

715
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: think the plate was the TMZ ship.

716
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: There was just so much going on, and the plate was, yeah.

717
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: It's the Kardashians, It's three fifties, is on.

718
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: Fires on fire.

719
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so much that It's like, that's right, you

720
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: do do music, you know what I'm saying. And when

721
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: the music was at the forefront of everything, songs like

722
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: ghost Town was like for sure, ghost Town is definitely

723
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: the same family as Amazing. I agree, you know what

724
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But it's just so much So that's when

725
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: the whole billionaire talk is talking and spoke on and

726
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: it's just a whole bunch of things kind of you know.

727
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I wrote through the uh, the great lines

728
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: that's in all minds, you know what I'm saying, And yeah,

729
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: it did like a hundred million streams, But it's just

730
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: so much shit going on that you know, there's no

731
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: way he that had an all mind in oh seven

732
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: A and when the shot a video for it, you

733
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But there's just so much ship.

734
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot dropping. Every much ship it was, so

735
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: it's just not even just dropping.

736
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: It's just there's so much going on in life.

737
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You know who got the best beats? You

738
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: know who got the best beats?

739
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: Beats?

740
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: The best yay beats? After b wipe everybody, I just said,

741
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: guess who got the best yay beats? Tianna Taylor? Facts Okay,

742
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: facts of life the Tianna Taylor.

743
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: I shought it was fire.

744
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: It just wasn't. It got in my opinion, the mixers

745
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: was rushed, but the actual beats crazy. It's that gonna

746
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: love you ship is fucking crazy, yo, Yo, So I agree,

747
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: So let me let me rephrase that, just so I

748
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: don't get killed on the internet. Honorable mentioned Tianna Taylor

749
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: for sure, Like you couldn't navigate and negotiate those that

750
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: we named already, but you cannot lead that ship out.

751
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: That ship is fucking crazy, yo.

752
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? I mean, this diddy ships getting crazy.

753
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: There's been the old Kanye text going viral calling him

754
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: a fed, right, you think you think he was on

755
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: some fed ship like filming everybody and ship like obviously

756
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: you probably know more about the inner workings of some

757
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: of this weirdo ship in New York than anybody.

758
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: I was. I do know some things, you know, you

759
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna let's take them moment with this,

760
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: say this. What I think is crazy is the potential

761
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: of Kid Cutty having to testify.

762
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because who's I mean, that's the car that

763
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: got set on.

764
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Fire, right, and he's already concurred with the incident.

765
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: And I mean, also, let me ask you a.

766
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: Question, Yeah, in your opinion, because I and I'm asking

767
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: you because you're in hip hop, you're in the hood,

768
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 3: but you obviously.

769
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: Can have the opinion of someone non African American. Right,

770
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: would you consider if Kid Cutty testified against Diddy snitching?

771
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: So I'd like to revert back to my good friend

772
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: Glasses Malone's definition of snitching.

773
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: Okay, kid cutting is a civilian right. That's why that's

774
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: why I want to hit it from you and so

775
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: and and mind you, let me say this to you.

776
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: Ki Cutty is never really ever I mean, obviously I'm

777
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: not saying angry, but he's never portrayed himself as a

778
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: street street.

779
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that he isn't because I don't know,

780
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: you know, I don't.

781
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: Know, but at least in the public right, Okay, fair enough.

782
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: He also was not a conspirator in crime with Diddy,

783
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: so he would not be then telling on someone to

784
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: get out of doing jail time himself.

785
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: He would be telling on someone based on being a victim. Correct. Right.

786
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: It's the same thing as somebody trying to say, well,

787
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: somebody ran up into bun Bee's house, right, and then

788
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 2: are trying like nah, like I don't see that.

789
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: To be whether fair belligerents would be God based on No,

790
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't think so you don't, you don't think at all,

791
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: not even.

792
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think Bune he teaches classes and

793
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: is an entrepreneur and is og at this point. So

794
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: I think I think it.

795
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: Is that nobody, nobody is entitled to hold of UGK.

796
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I'm not saying Look at Pimps

797
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: was alive right now. If he would he have approved

798
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: of that. Who knows what Pimps's personal evolution on street

799
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: politics would have been. I do not think if kid

800
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: Cutty testifies against Diddy it's a big deal. I do think.

801
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: I do think Kid Cutty is an entertainer and someone

802
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: who's never portrayed himself to be that. Now, obviously UGK

803
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: has portrayed himselves to be that back in the day,

804
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: so maybe that's a different discussion, But I think, yeah, dude,

805
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy tried to fucking set his.

806
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: Cars on fire.

807
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: If that allegedly, if that happened, and they give him

808
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: a call, what's he gonna say.

809
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: No. This went to ask the question, I want to

810
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: what do you think? I wanted to get your perspective.

811
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: Do you think if Cutty testifies you, I don't have

812
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: a notion. I have the I don't have an I

813
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: don't have a I have the notion. I just don't

814
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: have the viewpoint as far as yay or nay. You

815
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I because I factor both

816
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: the streets in in the belligerents versus the literality of

817
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: the situation at hand, right and the and the personality

818
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: and characteristics of the people involved. You know what I'm saying,

819
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: did He being a guy from the eighties and the

820
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: nineties versus Cuddy is a new wave guy and not

821
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: a street guy, and and something aggressive happened? So how

822
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: do you weigh that out?

823
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: I say, you know, hey, if he, if they if

824
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: they subpoena him, he's I mean, it is what it is, right,

825
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: I shouldn't trying to set this motherfucker's caring fire right

826
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: right right right. I would say this like I just

827
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: think I think the whole Diddy situation is just interesting

828
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: because it's interesting because I see people, Now, if you

829
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: were if you've been in hip hop and been semi important,

830
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: there's a chance you have a picture with did He.

831
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: There's a chance you've been to many of his parties

832
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: he had Grammy after part or is he had BT.

833
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: This is going to tell you someone, this isn't a

834
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: crazy thing. It's not like everybody who ever met Diddy

835
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: was hanging out with baby oil. Like then all the

836
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: industry is canceled. I got a picture with Diddy.

837
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: A lot of the industries about they get canceled.

838
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I agree with you.

839
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: On listen no, no spoiler alert.

840
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: No, I shout out to Paul Hayman, the greatest manager

841
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: of all time. I do agree that. Man, once the

842
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: we start getting names on who's in some of these videos,

843
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: that's when things are going to get very interesting because,

844
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: like you said, like there are you know, I just

845
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: think about like certain rappers who've gone viral for some

846
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: of their interactions on video with Diddy, and I'm like,

847
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: oh man, maybe there was some sort of freaking off gal.

848
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. But nonetheless, I say all that to

849
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: say that, like, Yo, we've all had pictures with Diddy,

850
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: like did he did? He was one of our idols

851
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: growing up as an entrepreneur. So it's like yeah, Like,

852
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: but that don't mean now I'm saying everybody, but that

853
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: don't mean that you were fucking like even if you

854
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: went to the party, like my one of my Jesus

855
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: was like, I'll go to Dinny party, I'd be out

856
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: of that bitch by one in the morning. Because that

857
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 2: three ship started to get weird.

858
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: There's announcements made there.

859
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 2: Is I've never been. I've never been.

860
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: Look, I definitely ven uh like yo, and now it's like,

861
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: hey guys, yo, it's five. It's a.

862
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: Whatever goes down after this.

863
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Fucking around, lay around, right, or maybe you might want

864
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: to have the brothers Mama. Me myself, I went to breakfast. Yeah,

865
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I grabbed a couple of joints. Slid about it there. Yeah,

866
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So, but that was

867
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: in a public joint, not at somebody I've never been

868
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: to nobody, Right.

869
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: I think it'll be interesting. I think that I think

870
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: that it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

871
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: I think, you know, there's also a good chance he

872
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: gets at all this. You know, we'll see. I don't know.

873
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: But it's a rico, so you would think it's a

874
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: federal rico. Usually they only push forward with a rico

875
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: if it's like it feels like they can I.

876
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Must just say this, nobody saw what happened with Max B.

877
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: Right, well, Max B, who's been in prison for what

878
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: fuck twenty years? Almost?

879
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Did you see something happening to somebody?

880
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: No, what do you mean?

881
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: Did you see anything happen to anybody that got Max

882
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: B put away? As long as he been put away?

883
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: This is this is a common sense question.

884
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't believe. So no, right, no, no, everyone around

885
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: Diddy snitching.

886
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Let's be clear.

887
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Do you have to? I'm saying his because think about

888
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: all his staff that are just trying to make it

889
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: in the music industry that were completely complaint.

890
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 1: That's carot dangling. That's one thing.

891
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: Is that the girl or no, no, what's the name

892
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: of the girl. It's the sistant they're trying to call

893
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 2: the new like the Jessling Maxwell, his like official assistant

894
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: in the White Chick. I think everyone's snitching, though, How.

895
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: Did you get the charge of the kidnap? And let

896
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Let me ask you that question.

897
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: How do you even get charge of kidnapping?

898
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: I think that would have been the video we saw

899
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: right with Cassie. All right, yeah, right, so that's on video, Yeah, tada,

900
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting is gonna be fucking interesting.

901
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: You don't need to be David Blaine. Let's see where

902
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: his rabbit's coming from.

903
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: One hundred percent what you know? Obviously, Like I said,

904
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: that last Tribe album, which would have been the first

905
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: post Fife death album, incredible body of work. Uh, would

906
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: there have you and Tip talked about doing another album

907
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: or well?

908
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's been working on the LL project for

909
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: a few years now.

910
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: LL project's hard too. I know he's been executive producing that.

911
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: But I just wonder if, like, is that like the

912
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: last Tribe album we'll ever get? And is there any

913
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: five vocals that we haven't heard yet that exist?

914
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: I have Okay, you know what I mean, But I

915
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: don't know. I know the group has been inducted into

916
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: the Rock holl and that that induction ceremonies in November.

917
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: So we'll see, you know what I mean? Yeah, we'll see.

918
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I haven't. We haven't had that conversation.

919
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, I take another c Tip

920
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: solo album too. It's been fuck what was that oh

921
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: eight oh nine? Yeah?

922
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: That album was crazy too.

923
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. The renaissance is dope, Yo.

924
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: What happens to first of all I remember specifically, they're

925
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: being talked that Kendrick and Kanye have like an album's

926
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: worth of unreleased songs.

927
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: Together, right that mad Live.

928
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: Have you heard these songs? Yeah?

929
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: It was over mad levies.

930
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: How so there's there's like an album's worth of Kendrick

931
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: Kanye songs over mad Lib production. What happens to this music?

932
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: And what does it sound like?

933
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: Like?

934
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: How great is that? That sounds fucking like a Grammy?

935
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think it just needed to be structured,

936
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but the idea and

937
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: the ideas that were Yeah, I heard the whole thing. Yeah,

938
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: it was there.

939
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: It's there, It's crazy, it's there.

940
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean just like you know, he worked with Dre.

941
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: I went to Drake Crib and we we cooked up,

942
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to doctor Dre. We had an amazing,

943
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: amazing time just being with doctor Dre is you know,

944
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, for me, it was just like, Yo, this

945
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: the motherfucker made deep cover when he was in high

946
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: school and I don't fan out like, but that shit happened,

947
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: like yo.

948
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

949
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: And even when Dre, you know, I was writing with

950
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: him and he asked me to vocal something I was

951
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: just when I was sick though, so I ain't really

952
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: maximized it because I was like just diagnosed with lupis.

953
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: But I flew out just on the strength. And I

954
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been even in California at the time that

955
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: the pandemic was at the height, and shit, everybody was

956
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: catching COVID like the Cooties for sure and ship and

957
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, but I still came because it was like

958
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: like one of those once in a lifetime bucket list

959
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: things and whatever. But but yeah, you know, so there's

960
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: a lot of music that's.

961
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: There's just so much music I feel like that's in

962
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: the error that we will probably never hear. But they

963
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: were supposed to be cool winner, right. I heard one

964
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 2: record off of there that was kind of like a

965
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: Mercy part two. It was called uh Wins Turgo Gravis.

966
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: It was called trash Bags Lifted produced. It might have

967
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: been talking about making it rain so much to have

968
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: they bring trash bags out. It was like the same

969
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: lineup as Mercy, right right right, But that.

970
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: Was a yeah.

971
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: Now, I always just wondered because like you hear like

972
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: like and you also you'll see yea get in with

973
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: people and you be like, well, whatever happened to that?

974
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Like right? Right? You know, it's the course of It's

975
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: the course of creativity.

976
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like for you man, like being a dad

977
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: and managing your son. And he's been rapping since he

978
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 2: was howled now? And how old is he now?

979
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: He's been rapping for ten years? He just turned thirteen?

980
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 2: Crazy? Yeah, what has that been like for you? Like?

981
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: And what are kind of like the the difficulties of

982
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 2: trying to break an artist as your son, you know,

983
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: also an artist as a child, right literally.

984
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's more more of that than the sun part.

985
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: The some part is an advantage because he's my son,

986
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So whatever is invested is

987
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: the automatic ROI just for spending time with my son

988
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: if nothing else, right, But you know, I mean obviously

989
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: there's there was the phase of he's cute and we

990
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: respect what you're doing, but do we really look at

991
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: him like his own artist? Then it gets to a

992
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: spot where it becomes where his peer group looks at

993
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: him as an artist, which was always the intent, you

994
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

995
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: Because you really want other kids to consume the music.

996
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: Right, right? I mean but it started because he's my son.

997
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: The first available platform is next to me, right, and

998
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: so you know the first time he kind of has

999
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: spun out on a viral tip was when he wrapped

1000
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: up a cop shot the kids ironically, you know, ironically,

1001
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: Puff posted it, you know what I mean, Revolt aired it,

1002
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and Pusher tweeted, tweeted it out,

1003
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: Kanye tweeted it out, and eventually, uh Kim Kardashian plugged

1004
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: him with Nikki and then he had got the dream

1005
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: about Nikki video put on nicki page and that had

1006
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: three million views on ig crazy. You know what I'm saying,

1007
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: which which now we're not this is what comes beyond

1008
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: him being my son and it becomes he he's Kaden

1009
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: the crown holder, you know what I'm saying. And then

1010
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: so which is great, but you know, we play a

1011
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: game where you're only as good as your last game,

1012
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And so maybe sometimes the

1013
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: difficult thing is that is has been and we get

1014
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: we're in a sweet spot now, but you know, did

1015
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 1: the grown pains of hot and cold and going back

1016
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: to the lab, and you know, while I did this,

1017
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: isn't that enough. It is because you're enough. But in

1018
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: this game that we play is never enough, you know

1019
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's the game that we play.

1020
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: Especially because I feel like for his demographic, like he

1021
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: almost has to shoot shots in the algorithm all the time.

1022
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: Right, And so that's why I said, we're in a

1023
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: sweet spot where that's coming together, you know what I'm saying.

1024
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: And we're going to continue to build and you know,

1025
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: like we got a collab album coming right after my

1026
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: new album called on the One on two, and then

1027
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: next year he'll be putting out his official debut album,

1028
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you know, the plan

1029
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: is in place and things are coming together, and so

1030
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: it's been well worth the journey. It's the greatest joy

1031
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: of my life. He's my son. Yeah, you know what

1032
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean.

1033
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: That's dope man. So uh, he's on your album too,

1034
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: like you said, right, what's the name of the new album? Yours?

1035
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: N he's doing business with you, that's doing business with you.

1036
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: Next Friday, Next Friday, the twenty seventh, the twenty seventh

1037
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: of September, and you know that's that's when we go

1038
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: into the Zech Cassro place.

1039
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: I love it. What's it like, man, how's this Vultures

1040
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: era of just kind of the journey Ben, because it

1041
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: seems like I was in the Four Seasons in Vegas

1042
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: that night that he was, I was supposed to do

1043
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: his event. Well he kind of did an event. It

1044
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: was kind of weird.

1045
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been around for the whole Vultures, know

1046
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1047
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: You just left China.

1048
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I loved China, you know, because I couldn't.

1049
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: Do I know, he shed some of the fat on

1050
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: his team. It feels like, you know.

1051
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: Some Yeah, like I said, I wasn't around because I

1052
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: literally took the last two years to do my album, right,

1053
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? After Donda, I needed a break,

1054
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And because the way I'm

1055
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: at life, you know, I had to put out something.

1056
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: I had to put out my joint, you know. I mean,

1057
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: like I had the resources I didn't have. I wasn't

1058
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: sitting here waiting for an advance. You know, my brains straight.

1059
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: I got I set my own label up, I got destroyed.

1060
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: I did the whole ship and so you know, part

1061
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: of even going to China was just like just you know,

1062
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: our friendship got to come for anything. You know what

1063
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying, our brotherhood, that that got to supersede because

1064
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: that's how the business was built. You know what I'm saying.

1065
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have we We wouldn't be who we are

1066
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: if we if we didn't do this. You know what

1067
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that this ship is one point, with your

1068
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: dogs and anything else. If y'all ain't doing this, leave

1069
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: it alone, you know what I'm saying. So you know

1070
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: we've seen each other, was like and then we just

1071
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: chopped in, just caught up and shouldn't you know. Even

1072
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: yesterday we was just talking laughing and I was having

1073
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: to tell him about the ramifications of pub being in

1074
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: the md M d C, which is the tombs in

1075
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: New York. I'm like, the Wolves is the Wolves is

1076
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: on either on payroll or looking like Wylie Coyote, you

1077
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so that's our one two,

1078
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but I did get

1079
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: the bill with Tie as well while I was out there.

1080
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: You know, we definitely want to connect and ship, so

1081
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, we got the future in front of us.

1082
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: It feels good.

1083
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: Can you give me a story on what at what

1084
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: point in time. Did you hear the spaceship beat? Who's

1085
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: whose verses were laid? First? Spaceship with GLC record. That

1086
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: was a GLC record first, it was a.

1087
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: GOOC record first, and he asked me to get on it,

1088
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: and then Kanye did his verse.

1089
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: Got it, So technically he laid his ship last.

1090
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, technically he laid it at once. I

1091
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: rapped on it. Then he went and was like, oh,

1092
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: this is a joint because he was only doing the

1093
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: chorus and it wasn't no, you know, Tony Williams actually

1094
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: his last because that's the top layer of everything in

1095
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: him adding that and you know what I'm saying, but

1096
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: just the win. It was just the Marvin Gaye loop.

1097
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: It was JLC and he was singing the joint because

1098
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: they both worked in the mall and that was like

1099
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: their connection musically for Kanye to tap in. Like that's

1100
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: how I ended up just doing it and then it

1101
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: just coincidentally I had a job history from being out

1102
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,959
Speaker 1: the tribe. So that's how I think.

1103
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: That that song is one of the most relatable songs

1104
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: ever because no one had ever rapped about working at

1105
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 2: the fucking mall.

1106
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: Or falling off and rapped that brother vers I remember

1107
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: having to take the dollar cab, coming home real late

1108
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: at night, standing on my feet all damn day, trying

1109
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: to make this thing right, and having one of my

1110
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: coworkers say, Yo, you look just like this kid I

1111
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: was seeing in the old Bust and Rohns video the

1112
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: night will Easy, Come Easy go have that saying goes

1113
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: no more broad service cars in the TV shows, it

1114
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: all had got snatched from me, A and alls and

1115
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: a faculties all turned their back on me and didn't

1116
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: want to hear rap from me, So naturally actually had

1117
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: to face things. Factually had to be a catastrophe, had

1118
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: the fire standing back at me, because nothing's dead, nothing's fit,

1119
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: and I don't want to ever go back there, so

1120
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: I won't be taking no days off you know the rest.

1121
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: What about Gone Can I've been pouring out looking for the.

1122
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite. That's one of my favorite,

1123
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: but that's one of my favorite verses, like how did that? Like, like,

1124
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: like what point of the creation of Gone did you get?

1125
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: It happens such a crazy record.

1126
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: So we're working on late registration. I think I told

1127
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: the story before, but so Kanye's original we would ask

1128
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: to rap on j Lo's album. Kanye's verse on Gone

1129
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: was on to get right record for Wow. He wanted

1130
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: me to rap on it. Sony was like, we don't

1131
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: know if we want consequence on it. If he not

1132
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: on it, I'm not doing it.

1133
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: Do it. So we had that verse and it's crazy

1134
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: because so then he puts.

1135
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: That on going Yo, I didn't do the j Lo

1136
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: ship because of this. I need fire we in La.

1137
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I gotta go. I gotta leave. Then

1138
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: I gotta go to Queens. I go to Queens. Take

1139
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: the beat with me, go to Queens. Sleep on the

1140
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: couch uh at my people's crib. I dreamt the verse.

1141
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: I woke up and caught and said, booke me time,

1142
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: I got it. Now it came in the whole. I've

1143
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: been pouring out some looking for the fact that my

1144
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: palt I dreamt that shit, and so it only took

1145
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: me like two takes. I had it in my head.

1146
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: I dreamt it. I literally woke up. It was like, oh,

1147
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: in a sweat, like because I probably it's probably at

1148
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: one point going with like the number twenty five best

1149
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: all time records at the year it came out.

1150
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite records. Yeah, even the way

1151
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 2: he came in on.

1152
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: It, like yeah, and I mean so after I did

1153
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: that verse, he did the last verse Okay, yeah, the

1154
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: second version, the blackout, Yeah, yeah, because that comes from

1155
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: the fact that no, I can't. I can't just I

1156
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: can't let this man right, because because if it's only

1157
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: just the first one, maybe, yeah, it's up for debate.

1158
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: If I caught him, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1159
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: I would go back here now and remember Cam's you

1160
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so you know that's the

1161
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: that's going.

1162
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: That ship was legendary. Man. Look, your new album is

1163
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 2: dropping the twenty.

1164
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: Seventh, September twenty seventh. Go run it up. Please go

1165
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: run it up. A man is overdue for his not men.

1166
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: And then I Recollett and.

1167
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: I my own label. It's one O two records distributed

1168
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: through had Maker. Shout out to Tony B and listen.

1169
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: I have given it is my goal all I And

1170
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: trust me, if you if you're a fan of anything

1171
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: I've given to anybody else, when you hear this project,

1172
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: you gonna know what's up with me. For real. It's

1173
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: my goal, humbly, it's my goal.

1174
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: How long have you actually been working out of years.

1175
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, two years after Donda. I just like you.

1176
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: I got to do a body of work. Yeah.

1177
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm ready. I'm super ready.

1178
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: That's what's up, man. Well, we can't wait to hear it.

1179
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate you pulling up brother.

1180
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: Yes. Sorry wo