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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: going to discuss the story that went viral this week

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Speaker 1: about Coco saying that she breastfed her daughter until she

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Speaker 1: was six. A freak accident involving the accidental discharge of

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Speaker 1: a firearm, only this time it was an unlikely gunman.

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Speaker 1: A really alarming case that will be happening more frequently,

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Speaker 1: involving kids and AI porn images. And then we'll finish

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Speaker 1: the episode with a woman whose croissant sandwich was moving,

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Speaker 1: and also people puking at Disney. All that and more.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, you said croissant so fancy. It was

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Speaker 1: an impediment, like it was an act.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody will find it funny. All right, This

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Speaker 2: first story I want to handle delicately because I really

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Speaker 2: love Coco a lot. And after we were on Elvis Durrann,

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Speaker 2: she started following the Mother Nose.

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Speaker 1: Death Instagram and she follows me too, and I love her.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if she listens, but I don't want

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Speaker 2: to offend.

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Speaker 1: And Iced Tea was at Crime Con and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to meet him so bad, and we just like couldn't

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Speaker 1: figure it out with our schedule and stuff, and I

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Speaker 1: was so bummed about that. But I was hoping that

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Speaker 1: she was going to be there and I would just

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Speaker 1: see her like walking around and could go say hi.

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Speaker 1: But then when she started following me, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be delicate. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: she's wrong. I know that you might have different opinions

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Speaker 1: on this, but go ahead. Well, she's defending breastfeeding their

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Speaker 1: daughter until she was six years old. But I will

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Speaker 1: say obviously a couple of weeks so we had a

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Speaker 1: breastfeeding story where they were saying, what was it. The

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Speaker 1: Pediatric Association was saying it was they you could breastfeed

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Speaker 1: up to seven years old, and I'm not in the

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Speaker 1: American one. They're worded differently. The American Pediatric says to

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Speaker 1: do it to at least two years old, whereas the

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Speaker 1: World Health Organization is they're the ones that are more

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Speaker 1: relaxed with the and there is no rule like worldwide

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Speaker 1: there's no rule, but in general worldwide it stops between

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Speaker 1: three to seven years old. Not in America, but worldwide

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Speaker 1: three to seven years old is the range, so it

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Speaker 1: was only weird here. You just have to say that I.

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Speaker 2: Was not down with the seven year old age limit

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Speaker 2: that they had put up. I thought that was a

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Speaker 2: little extreme. But Coco is defending it, saying it was

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Speaker 2: a great bonding moment between her and her daughter, and

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Speaker 2: I do understand that.

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Speaker 1: So I understand because she has like very volumptuous looking boobs,

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Speaker 1: so I don't blame her daughter. But no, seriously, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a problem. I think that there is

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Speaker 1: specifically no rules with this from any medical association or

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Speaker 1: anything for this specific reason, because kids eventually will be like,

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Speaker 1: I'm done here, and if they want to do it

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Speaker 1: and you want to do it, I don't see what

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Speaker 2: I think what she said though, was great, because she

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Speaker 2: it before is when parents force it upon older children.

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Speaker 1: So let me tell you about this story I found

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Speaker 1: on Reddit. There was a I actually wrote it down

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Speaker 1: because it was a little weird. There was a social

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Speaker 1: worker that was asking a question and in some licensed

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Speaker 1: social worker Pete, I don't know why I can't say

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Speaker 1: those two words together a page that said that there

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Speaker 1: was in her office there was a mother that was

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Speaker 1: actively breastfeeding a twelve year old like in POW, and

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Speaker 1: she was asking if she should report them the Child

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Speaker 1: Protective Services and people some people are like, no, there's

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Speaker 1: there has to be a rule on that, And I

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Speaker 1: guess that's you're always going to have a situation where

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Speaker 1: that Cocoa is at that level now, as some people

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Speaker 2: Not right. Yeah, Like I don't think that's right. Like

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Speaker 2: in Europe they're doing it until seven there, it's nothing

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Speaker 1: The thing is is that you know, my kid's twelve

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Speaker 2: There does have to be a cutoff at some point.

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Speaker 1: There was this video going viral this week on X

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Speaker 1: see videos and I'm like, God, I would like to

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Speaker 1: talk about this, but like you don't even know if

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Speaker 1: things are ai anymore. It's just like it's pointless to

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Speaker 1: seventeen year old and like it showed her breastfeeding like

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Speaker 1: And just like okay, like that you could see that

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Speaker 1: mom and her boy of like, okay, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit too much. And how how's a seventeen year

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Speaker 1: be confident if he's still going home and breastfeeding to bed,

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Speaker 1: and like seventeen year olds are at the age where

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Speaker 2: A seventeen year old kuld drive a car, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we need to cut off at some point, Like and

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Speaker 2: I guess when puberty kicks in then.

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Speaker 1: You know that should be discussed. It's just it is

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Speaker 1: interesting that there's no magic number for anyone. So for

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Speaker 1: like somebody has had this happen to them, that they're

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Speaker 1: either a physician or pediatrician or something, that there's been

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think if the kid's getting to puberty

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Speaker 2: guess legally there's not a cutoff, right, because how are

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Speaker 2: people fed for centuries? I mean, it's a way of

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Speaker 2: It's a way of comforting her more so. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the kid's nine now, she was six. She stopped feeding

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Speaker 1: The memes of Chanelle are my favorite that says that

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Speaker 1: Chanelle looks more like Iced Tea than Iced Tea does.

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Speaker 1: She is truly the cutest.

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Speaker 2: Little girl I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just so funny that people say that,

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Speaker 2: I'll wrap this up by saying, I don't personally agree

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Speaker 2: so I don't understand it from that perspective. And I guess,

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Speaker 2: and your kid making the decision. But I would not

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Speaker 2: like to see a twelve year old boy being breastfed

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Speaker 2: in public. But I mean, that seems like a very

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Speaker 2: unusual case. I mean, she stopped feeding her when she

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Speaker 2: that time, even though I'm not necessarily behind that. But

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Speaker 2: you're a mother, so you might have more understanding, yes,

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Speaker 1: I was in a different situation when I was breastfeeding

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Speaker 1: And I kept it going with both of them for

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't stop it because I felt

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Speaker 2: This guy was cleaning his shotgun and laid it down

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the unsuspected gunman was the dog. This

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Speaker 1: So I showed Gabe this and he because they do

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Speaker 1: So the possibility of that is that the guy could

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Speaker 1: have been outside shooting right, because he's in Pennsylvania and

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Speaker 1: some people have huge properties. He could have like ran

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Speaker 1: tapping their foot against the trigger could definitely set it

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Speaker 2: This is what the gun expert was saying at Crime

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Speaker 2: con in Nashville about the ALEC Baldwin shooting with a revolver.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes if you don't have good trigger and you're you know,

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to keep your finger on the side til

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Speaker 2: you're ready to shoot. So they were suggesting that it

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Speaker 2: was possible that if Alec Baldwin had his finger on

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Speaker 2: the trigger and then went to pull back the hammer,

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Speaker 2: sometimes that could push the pin forward, which then pushes

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Speaker 2: up against your finger, which could have caused the gun

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Speaker 2: to fire. Yeah, so I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people think about how easily it could be, and that's

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Speaker 2: why not having your finger in that area is important.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it's also Now this is clearly

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Speaker 2: a freak accident, but with an animal involved that is

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Speaker 2: large and going to jump on the bed and has

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Speaker 2: a lot of force, maybe if you're cleaning your weapons

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't have the animal of the room at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy like he could have got killed.

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Speaker 1: He could have and they said that he had surgery

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, it it's just kind of whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: If you have good gun adiquate that it's just it

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Speaker 2: I feel like recently GIBT has updated their policies and

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Speaker 2: they don't do certain things.

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Speaker 1: So but regardless, you put it into some kind of

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Speaker 1: AI thing and you say, what do you like, I

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Speaker 1: want to know what the process of these kids are doing.

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Speaker 2: Like so they probably like they probably take a porn

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Speaker 2: picture and they probably take a picture of the person

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Speaker 2: and they're like, put this person's head on this.

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Speaker 1: Picture, So there's no way that the AI capabilities that

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Speaker 1: they could see that that's a child.

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Speaker 2: Well, it should be detecting that. But we know how

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Speaker 2: these programs work, and they're not perfect because it's technology.

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Speaker 1: This is just it's just so bad. It's so bad.

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Speaker 1: I don't just trying to parent and navigate in this

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Speaker 1: world that I mean, this is something we weren't even

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Speaker 1: talking about five years ago. No, I'm exactly like, I

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Speaker 1: just I can't even imagine because now it's like my

452
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Speaker 1: kids still have to go through full finish middle school

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Speaker 1: and full high school. Like what's going to happen in

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Speaker 1: the next five years with this? Like I don't even

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to navigate it, and no

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Speaker 1: one really does.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be terrible. This episode is brought to you

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Speaker 2: by the Gross Room.

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Speaker 1: Guys. This week's high profile that dis section, as we've

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Speaker 1: been saying this week, is on the Thanksgiving Day massacre,

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Speaker 1: just in time for the holiday. We also have a

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Speaker 1: post where we talk about a severely decompos body that

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Speaker 1: was found and nothing was seen at autopsy and the

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Speaker 1: only way they were able to determine this person's cause

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Speaker 1: of death was because of the toxicology results. So that's

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Speaker 1: a really interesting post. We also have a really cool

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Speaker 1: story this week that I labeled debunked, where one of

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Speaker 1: the grocery members had sent in a picture to me

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Speaker 1: that's been going viral on the internet for years and

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Speaker 1: with one claim and I go through it and say,

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Speaker 1: how I think it's complete bullshit. So all that and

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Speaker 1: Okay, this story is ugh.

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Speaker 2: I was just talking about these heavenly croissants I want

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Speaker 2: to buy in Montreal, and now I'm gonna be a

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Speaker 2: little deterred after this story. So a woman went on

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Speaker 2: TikTok and shared that after buying a ham and cheese

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Speaker 2: croissant at a local cafe, she ended up finding maggots

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Speaker 2: crawling around in the pastry.

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Speaker 1: She shows this sandwich and there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: maggots underneath of the role just crawling around. It is

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Speaker 1: so disturbing.

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Speaker 2: You want to know the worst part is, she said

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Speaker 2: she waited until she got to work to eat it.

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Speaker 2: She took a bite and then when she pulled back,

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Speaker 2: one was crawling on her hand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, And you know this wouldn't happen to me

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Speaker 1: because I don't eat sandwiches like that. I take them apart.

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Speaker 1: I don't eat like and directly bite into a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: So at first, sometimes croissants could be made with like

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Speaker 2: ham and cheese rolled within the pastry, right, So at

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Speaker 2: first I'm thinking it's inside and nobody had cut it

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Speaker 2: open or anything not that that makes it acceptable. That's

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Speaker 2: just how I was picturing it at first.

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Speaker 1: But then when I watched the video of.

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Speaker 2: This is it is a croissant cut in half that

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Speaker 2: somebody put ham and cheese into and built the sandwich.

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Speaker 2: The person building the sandwich didn't notice the bugs.

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Speaker 1: This is my concern actually, So I mean, like, if

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Speaker 1: you eat maggots by accident, it's the thing, ever, but

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get sick from the maggots. Your stomach

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Speaker 1: acid will dissolve them and that's the end of that.

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Speaker 1: But are they on this meat because it is going

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Speaker 1: bad and it's spoiled and that's why flies are landing

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Speaker 1: on it and having eggs and now maggots are on it.

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Speaker 1: That you could get sick from meat that's been sitting

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Speaker 1: out like that. So that's one of the concerns. And also,

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Speaker 1: if you want to just think about the life cycle,

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Speaker 1: like let's totally nerd out science, the life cycle of

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Speaker 1: what happens here that a fly lands on meat and

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Speaker 1: has eggs that hatch within as quick as twenty four hours,

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Speaker 1: sometimes even half a day, sometimes depending on the environment.

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Speaker 1: If if for some reason that meat was out and

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Speaker 1: a fly had access to it, and then they put

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Speaker 1: it in the refrigerator, that would slow down the life

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Speaker 1: cycle of the larva hatching because the temperature is so low,

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Speaker 1: So then they would pull the meat back out again,

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Speaker 1: and then it would have to sit out for a

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Speaker 1: while warm up to room temperature in order for these

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Speaker 1: these lava to come out of the of the eggs right,

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Speaker 1: and then for them to be so many in a

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Speaker 1: sandwich like that, I personally think that they're not having

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Speaker 1: safe food practices to begin with. So that's that's one

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Speaker 1: part of it. And the fact that this restaurant was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a refund.

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Speaker 2: That wait, that is not even the worst part of

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Speaker 2: their reply, just saying we'll give you a refund. She

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Speaker 2: messaged them on Instagram immediately after and told them about

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Speaker 2: it because she wanted them to stop selling anymore, and

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Speaker 2: they responded quote bloody flies, like, oh, it's the fly's fault,

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Speaker 2: Like what are you doing there? So now they're being

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Speaker 2: investigated for their health, like the health practices are getting investigated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that just wouldn't happen unless they weren't

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Speaker 1: doing something right.

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Speaker 2: But they've issued in a policy, but ask people not

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Speaker 2: to be swayed by one fan review. This isn't a

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Speaker 2: Karen issue, it's a health issue.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? And like, listen if somebody

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Speaker 1: wrote in there and I'm guilty of this too, Like

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Speaker 1: sometimes you'll read, well, there's a really good restaurant around here,

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Speaker 1: actually that Byron said he ate at and got food

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Speaker 1: poisoning from, And I often want to order food from there,

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Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, yeah, but that one time

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Speaker 1: Byron got food poisoning. But then I'm like, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's really good food poisonings Like whatever, you poop a

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Speaker 1: bunch and then it's over within a day. Right. Maggots

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Speaker 1: on their hand, are just like a deal breaker for me.

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Speaker 1: If someone said that any restaurant had maggots in the food,

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Speaker 1: I would scream from the rooftops to everyone I knew

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Speaker 1: never to eat there again. It's just, really, it's just

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Speaker 1: beyond disturbing, especially thinking about flies on dead bodies and

553
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: maggots on dead bodies. Like the whole entire thing just

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Speaker 1: skeeves me out so bad. You want to hear something interesting. Actually,

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Speaker 1: So when I remember when I was a little kid

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Speaker 1: back in the day when like people would come door

557
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Speaker 1: to door and sell you like softball candy or something

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Speaker 1: like that for a fundraiser. Mo mom got a Mister

559
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Speaker 1: goodbar once and she bit into it and said there

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Speaker 1: were maggots in it. Oh right, and she freaked out,

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Speaker 1: and our whole entire life every Halloween, like we would

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Speaker 1: get Mister goodbars and stuff. She would she would just

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Speaker 1: be like, get those things away from me. The rapper

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Speaker 1: was like triggering to her, because I'm serious, it's because

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Speaker 1: it's so disturbing to have, Like if it was an earthworm,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even care. It's just like there's something disturbing

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Speaker 1: about maggots that, at least for me, that I put

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Speaker 1: in the same category as a decomposing dead body. And

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Speaker 1: I just can't. But but she would be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like they could go in the trash like they don't

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Speaker 1: need to be in our house because she just she

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Speaker 1: was just like those things have maggots all the time.

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Speaker 2: So I will say, I have been dreaming about my

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Speaker 2: chocolate and almond croissants from Montreal, and I am a

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Speaker 2: little disgusted by the story foot I still will be

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Speaker 2: getting it.

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Speaker 1: It's a their issue. And listen, like, I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: every person, every person at least has has had fly

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Speaker 1: eggs for sure, because if you ever have a barbecue

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00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: or anything, especially if you have food outside like that,

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Speaker 1: you see that there's flies on the food and they

582
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Speaker 1: lay eggs when they're there, right that that happens and

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Speaker 1: nobody's gotten sick from it. It's just the thought of

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Speaker 1: them actually hatching. It takes time for that to happen,

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Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. And that makes me

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Speaker 1: think that that it's that the food's old, that it's

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Speaker 1: it's breaking down, you know what I mean, Like it's

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Speaker 1: just it's just really gross, Like why do they have

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Speaker 1: meat out there that has exposure to flies? Anyway, This

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Speaker 1: is why.

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Speaker 2: I'm so annoyed by the leg Don't be swayed by

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Speaker 2: one review. Like we're not talking about someone that went

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Speaker 2: there was like the food I had was disgusting, blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah, Like there is evidence there are maggots in

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Speaker 2: this sandwich, and that's a major health violation because, as

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Speaker 2: you said, it's not like you're gonna get sick from

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Speaker 2: the maggots. Are they considered bugs or they parasites? They're bugs, well,

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Speaker 2: they are, but they could act as a para a

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Speaker 2: parasite as well, like they're a larva of a fly,

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Speaker 2: but also they can infest a person as a parasite.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, So the issue of getting at in

602
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Speaker 2: general is just like if if you're not taking care

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Speaker 2: of your food enough that it has maggots on it,

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Speaker 2: there's bigger problems going on in your facility.

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Speaker 1: Like technically, I guess the definition of a parasite would

606
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Speaker 1: be something that needs a host to live off of,

607
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Speaker 1: where maggots they don't necessarily need like a warm, flooded host.

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Speaker 1: They could live as long as they have dead meat

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Speaker 1: to eat. So if there was a hamburger in the

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Speaker 1: trash can, they could live and live out their life cycle.

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Speaker 1: They don't need it to be attached to a warm

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Speaker 1: blooded person. But people could still have infestations of maggots

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Speaker 1: who are eating. Like if a person has a tumor,

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Speaker 1: let's say, for example, or they have gangarine on their leg,

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Speaker 1: they would be attracted to the smell of the dead

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Speaker 1: flesh and they would live there and set up shop,

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Speaker 1: and like lots of them would start to grow. But

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Speaker 1: they don't necessarily need that warm blood to live. They

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Speaker 1: just need the dead meat.

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Speaker 2: I really hope nobody's listening to this segment while eating

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Speaker 2: right now, because.

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Speaker 1: I just skip flies like I And if you have

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Speaker 1: a restaurant, you should have the sticky traps. You should

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Speaker 1: have everything, because you can't. You can't prevent them, especially

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Speaker 1: if you have a restaurant and you have trash in

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Speaker 1: the in the back. It's just impossible to prevent them.

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Speaker 1: But you should do everything above and beyond to make

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Speaker 1: sure that they're not near food. And usually when you

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Speaker 1: have a little sandwich shop like that, like don't you

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Speaker 1: have those those little like silver trays that pull over

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Speaker 1: the food that's sitting out and stuff. Yeah, but if

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Speaker 1: they're they're not doing that. Yeah, I mean, if they're

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Speaker 1: not busy, they're not doing that.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you from all my years of work, and these.

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Speaker 1: People are not These people were definitely not doing it.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Disney because there's been a

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Speaker 2: million stories going on there.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: So for those of you who aren't familiar with Disney World,

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Speaker 2: they have this park called Epcot which features a bunch

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Speaker 2: of different countries, and people do that. I don't think

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00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: it's an official thing they offer, but people do this

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00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: thing called drinking around the world. Well, they'll go to

644
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: every country and get an alcoholic beverage. But apparently this

645
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: is becoming a huge problem, and now there's an issue

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Speaker 2: with public drunkenness, people vomiting in public spaces of the

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Speaker 2: park and just being really annoying to the other guests.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of my my theories on life is that,

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Speaker 1: and Gabe and I agree on this and discuss this

650
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Speaker 1: all the time. When you find something that you really

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Speaker 1: enjoy doing, like anything in the world, hanging out with

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Speaker 1: your friends, going to Disney World, going to a baseball game,

653
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Speaker 1: going to a football game, whatever, when you enjoy that,

654
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Speaker 1: what makes you say like, oh, I want to get

655
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Speaker 1: as wasted as possible, so I don't enjoy it, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't understand it. Like if you already enjoy. Like,

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Speaker 1: I understand if you're like if you want to get

658
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Speaker 1: like wasted at your job because it sucks, But like,

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Speaker 1: why would you want to go to Disney World and

660
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Speaker 1: be wasted? Like, isn't just Disney World enough?

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Speaker 2: Well? Think about Ricky for example, because he has no

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Speaker 2: interest in going to Disney at all, and I really

663
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Speaker 2: like Disney World, and I promised him that we will

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Speaker 2: not go to get or I will not make him

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Speaker 2: go there before we have children. But after we have kids,

666
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to go, and he's gonna be miserable.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be appealing to him because he doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to be.

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Speaker 1: There at all. And I understand that one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I just think that are there really that many people

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Speaker 1: that don't want to be there? Are all? Is it

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Speaker 1: just like a bunch of people who love Disney and

673
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Speaker 1: then their partner that absolutely hates it like I and

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Speaker 1: really like a lot of I don't think there's that

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Speaker 1: much of a percentage of people that go to Disney

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Speaker 1: that just don't enjoy being there. No, totally, Because it's

677
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Speaker 1: so expensive too. It's like I'm not gonna make you

678
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Speaker 1: come along when it's gonna cost a couple hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: a day to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's getting Do you think it could

681
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Speaker 2: be worse than a normal situation, a normal drinking situation

682
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Speaker 2: because you have the excessive heat, people are probably dehydrated,

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Speaker 2: they're not drinking enough water walking around, they're probably not

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Speaker 2: eating enough food, and then they can easily just get

685
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Speaker 2: so many drinks. Yeah, right, And also.

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Speaker 1: Everybody there, for the most part, I know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of people drive to Disney, but there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that just like all they have

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Speaker 1: to do is hop on a train or a bus

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Speaker 1: to get to their hotel. I just like, I really

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Speaker 1: just I don't know, like, and I understand that a

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Speaker 1: lot of adults that don't have children go there, but

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Speaker 1: when you're there with your little kids and stuff, it's

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Speaker 1: it's funny that they're saying that the lines are longer

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Speaker 1: for the alcohol than than for the some of the

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Speaker 1: rides and listen, like, Epcot is my favorite one of

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Speaker 1: all of them. I've always loved that one because it's

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Speaker 1: kind of science based and cool and just like, I

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Speaker 1: love the whole vibe there. But I wouldn't ever complain

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Speaker 1: to anybody. And I guess that's part of this article

701
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Speaker 1: that people are just like I kind of want to

702
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Speaker 1: walk through and I don't want to have to deal

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Speaker 1: with They're saying it's more less like Epcot and more

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Speaker 1: like what is it called the Bourbon Street in New Orleans? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like it's got a vibe of that, and I kind

706
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Speaker 1: of like, that's the worst vibe ever to me.

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Speaker 2: So, well, this is another point I want to make up,

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Speaker 2: speaking of Bourbon Street, because when you think I don't,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think you've never been to New Orleans, right, Well, going,

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Speaker 1: I'm going soon next month, I'll go.

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Speaker 2: So in New Orleans, when you're drinking, a lot of

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00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: it is super sugary drinks like dakerease and just things

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Speaker 2: with so much sugar in it. And I think a

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Speaker 2: big problem at Epcot could also be that you are

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Speaker 2: mixing so many different kinds of drinks together. Because when

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Speaker 2: I think about you know, of course, I've had many

718
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Speaker 2: occasions in my youth where I've puked my guts out,

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Speaker 2: like after drinking, but it was always after I mixed

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Speaker 2: different alcohols together. Right, So when you're in Epcot, when

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Speaker 2: you start like if you start off on the left

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Speaker 2: side of Epcot, and you want to start off in Mexico,

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Speaker 2: for example, you're gonna get a margarita, and then you're

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Speaker 2: gonna go to France and get a champagne, and then

725
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna Germany and get a beer. You're mixing all

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Speaker 2: the different types of alcohol together. And I think that's

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00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: also just a complete recipe for disaster for somebody that

728
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: might be used to drinking. You could normally have a

729
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: couple drinks, but you're mixing them all together. You're not

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Speaker 2: drinking enough water, you're not eating enough food, and it's

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Speaker 2: hot as shit there. So I think that's with all

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Speaker 2: those factors together, that's why they might be seeing a problem.

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Speaker 1: It really is. It's the weather there is just so terrible.

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Speaker 2: And side note, there was another death there, So what's

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Speaker 2: that bring us to five in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Five. Yeah, we don't even know anything about this particular one.

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Speaker 1: It happened that.

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Speaker 2: I think, but the only information we have is that

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Speaker 2: the emergency call said person down.

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Speaker 1: We don't know anything about how they died. This is

741
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: like remember a couple of years ago when they were

742
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: trying to say that all these people were dying in

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Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic on vacation. It's just like, and that

744
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: wasn't the case, Like that, many people die in the

745
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: of Republic on vacation all the time. And it's the

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Speaker 1: same thing with Disney, Like people die at Disney all

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00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: the time. And now all of a sudden, it's just

748
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Speaker 1: like the Internet and the viral and the making the video,

749
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Speaker 1: and it's gonna go more viral because every single time

750
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Speaker 1: there's because the first one was that woman who killed

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Speaker 1: herself and that was a weird case, right.

752
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Speaker 2: So I have some something on that too. So remember

753
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Speaker 2: when we reported that, If anybody wants to listen to

754
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: that story, go back to our dark Side episode. But

755
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: I think that we really sat on Halloween. So for

756
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: that one, there had been speculation that she jumped in

757
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: front of the monorail, but Annie was saying she was

758
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: there when it happened, and what she was hearing around

759
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: the park was that that woman jumped from the balcony

760
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Speaker 2: and landed by the monorail tracks.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, like on the inside of the hotel.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it was on the inside or out,

763
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: but like that has to be so disturbing. Yeah, and

764
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Speaker 2: that was around the time. If it was inside, that's

765
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Speaker 2: extra fucked up because all you know, all the restaurants

766
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Speaker 2: in the contemporary are open.

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Speaker 1: In the lobby right there.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and it was around dinner time, so think

769
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Speaker 2: about all those restaurants being packed with families eating dinner

770
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Speaker 2: and then something like that happens.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that that particular case was just so

772
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Speaker 1: unusual the way it went down, because the husband was

773
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: looking for her and then she had these pictures online

774
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: that she was pregnant at least, and nobody really knows

775
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: what happened. So that case went viral. And then so

776
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: now it's like every single time a person dies, it's

777
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: just gonna go extra viral because let's say, like that

778
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Speaker 1: person that had a heart attack on the Haunted mansion

779
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's just kind of like, Okay, that happens

780
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: old people, whatever it was the case may be, but

781
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: but like that one got so much attention, So now

782
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: anyone is going to get attention, so there's gonna be more, Oh,

783
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: this person died, this person died, and it's like.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like the Boeing effect of last year, and

785
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: you could say even this year with cruise ships too.

786
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: I mean, there has been more reports of cruise ship

787
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Speaker 2: incidence than ever this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because it's just like once one catches on,

789
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, let's you know, and and the

790
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: news has been jumping and and and just like social

791
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: media is just is known for this. Now. Just if

792
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: let's say we're in Disney tomorrow and we see an

793
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: ambulance pull up, the first thing that we would do

794
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: is like take a video and post it because everybody

795
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: would see it, you know what I mean, Like, I mean,

796
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: I really don't care to do that unless it is

797
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: like really juicy, but that's that's what happens. So now

798
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: every single time anybody sees anything like that, they're gonna

799
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: pull out their phone and it's instantly gonna go viral

800
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: because it's some kind of scandal they want to try.

801
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like we've said this, the magic's over with Disney,

802
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: like between the Google Earth just being able to see

803
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: what's going on behind the scenes and all anybody posting

804
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: anytime there's a problem there, Like anything they used to

805
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: push under the rug and hide is not anymore.

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