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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Page from now and that's it. That's summer's over for us. Sucks.

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Speaker 1: Like I want to get going, Like I know that

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Speaker 2: And so that's once you get going, you're going. Trying

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Speaker 3: But at the same time you have to open the

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Speaker 2: I'm good with dad. I like to hide.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like our New England culture is being

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Speaker 4: appropriated by people.

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Speaker 2: Culture appropriated by people New England. You weren't at the.

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Speaker 1: Meeting today, No, I wasn't. I was just speaking to

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Speaker 2: The Sharon's Men's Club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and Paul.

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Speaker 2: Paul's got the library circuit and look at you've got

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Speaker 2: the geriatric club circuit.

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Speaker 1: One of the restaurants up here, Patriot Place, the Worldly One,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, The Worldly One, Worldly

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Speaker 1: One right next to Duncan pre Rob.

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Speaker 2: No, do you want protein on that? I can't stand

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium. It's Alex, It's Deuce, it's Me, It's

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Speaker 2: Matt and Na Booth. We're knocketing off another off season

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Speaker 2: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Not too many of those left, No,

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Speaker 2: not too many of those left. We're getting closer.

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Speaker 1: We are.

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Speaker 2: Every day brings us closer to the opening of camp

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Speaker 2: on July twenty third. Be there with bells on.

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Speaker 1: I know we put out the schedule I saw. I

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Speaker 1: mean the first two weeks open. So if you want

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Speaker 1: to know which day to go, check out is Patriot Social.

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Speaker 2: The other cool thing that's going on on that opening day,

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Speaker 2: which I found out a few days ago, is the

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Speaker 2: Patriot are gonna have a pet adoption Day. It's for dogs,

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Speaker 2: but you can come and actually adopt the dog right

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Speaker 2: there at camp. They're gonna have a big area set up.

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have like twenty to twenty five

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Speaker 2: eligible dogs, puppies and dogs from three I think local

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Speaker 2: you know shelters yep, and like that same day you

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Speaker 2: could go home with a dog. The dog will have

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Speaker 2: all its papers, all its shots. You know. You can

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Speaker 2: pick the dog, adopt it. You can leave it, you know,

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Speaker 2: with the you know, in the nice area and go

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Speaker 2: to practice and pick it up after practice. Or you

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Speaker 2: can just come and adopt the dog and go home.

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Speaker 2: But that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I think the I think the shelters are the Berkshire

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Speaker 4: which doctor Dianacraft is on the board of.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, Steve and I just adopted a dog in

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Speaker 2: I guess we all, well, most people, except for Paul

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even know that two fresh.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't understand how a child or a dog

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Speaker 1: Does he get him? Does he ever get any of them?

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Speaker 4: Because like those little terrier dogs, they keep the mice away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he'sly twenty third opening day of camp. It's

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Speaker 2: and if you fall in love with one of them,

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Speaker 2: So I think that's really good. I hope all of

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Speaker 3: Picked and they have to give you to take them home.

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Speaker 2: I already have a dog, but one's enough.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't realize that getting a rescue dogs not

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Speaker 4: the designer dogs. Like a lot of dogs are bred

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Speaker 2: I don't like the designer breeding, but I have a

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Speaker 2: I've always had a theory that mixed breed dogs like

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Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, I think that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Like my dog is part terrier and part it might

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Speaker 2: It was really sketchy. Off of Facebook. They had these

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Speaker 2: and they showed up with this this pit, this truck

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Speaker 2: you know what's yeah I want And that's how we

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Speaker 1: What I've learned over this process, though, is that they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was my dogs from Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: And I guess they don't really give a crap about

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Speaker 4: So much just abandoned them in the woods, you trash dumpsters.

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Speaker 1: Like we're so curious about our dogs. He's got like

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Speaker 1: but like, you're just so curious about the story we're

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Speaker 1: So she grab a dog. You want to start out with.

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Speaker 4: Well, the shelters, really good shelters and animal rescues do

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Speaker 3: So it's just it's a great option to adopt a dog.

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Speaker 2: All right. So July twenty third, dogs come get a dog,

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Speaker 2: and I would imagine if it's a big success, they'll

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Speaker 2: do it again. Sure, you know, why not?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we had an event earlier in May. It was

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Speaker 4: the first one about Patriot Place. It's a rainy day,

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Speaker 4: but it was still successful. Watched the dog get adopted.

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Speaker 1: It's cute.

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Speaker 3: It's a good day to bring your kids to camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so Patriots. The NFL Top one hundred

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Speaker 2: list came out and officially and Gonzo is on it.

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Speaker 1: Four Yeah, yeah, I just watched the segment they released

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Speaker 1: on him. Congratulations Christian, well deserved and I think they

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Speaker 1: he had last year, going against a lot of the

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Speaker 1: top receivers around the league. Showed some highlights of I

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Speaker 1: nice past breakup on DeVante Adams down here the goal line.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior in Arizona talking to Arizona guys, talking

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Speaker 1: about we really need to focus on Christian Gonzalez. So

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Speaker 1: it's that's good. I mean, that's what we talk about.

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Speaker 1: They need talent and he's Scott talent.

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Speaker 2: Didn't They used to release this like bit by bit

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Speaker 1: I think the full episode airs tonight, but they are

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Speaker 1: I believe the videos, I mean, like is honest. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it's broken up. I think it's just eighty

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's why we know about Gonzales.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they put up the video this morning of Gonzales.

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Speaker 1: I think. So we don't know the whole list yet, No,

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Speaker 2: So was there a chance that another Patriots higher.

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Speaker 2: I also we also know that McDaniels traveled around last

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Speaker 1: He's stuck in the mud because he's asking too much

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Speaker 4: And that's a defense that Hoyer had of McDaniels out

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Speaker 2: I think Josh the GM, I mean Josh the coach,

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Speaker 1: From Josh's perspective, I imagine there's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: And really, I mean, at what point has he ever

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Speaker 2: But sure, you know, of course Drake, they should also

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Speaker 4: can just take out of thin air and make. So

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Speaker 4: now back here under Rabel who seemingly to us, it's

436
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Speaker 4: been great so far. The guys really seem to be

437
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,920
Speaker 4: buying in. So hopefully it just gets to the old.

438
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Speaker 2: I mean, when you had the success that the Patriots had,

439
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's natural to ask why, like why were

440
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 2: they so successful? And I think that's where this all

441
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 2: stems from. Who who's the architect, who gets the most credit?

442
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,159
Speaker 2: Why did this happen? And it's fine, you know, I'm

443
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,120
Speaker 2: reading the book by Gary Myers now the Belichick versus

444
00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 2: Brady debate. You know, it's it's good reading. I live

445
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 2: through it, So I'm not really learning a lot, but

446
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 2: I'm not quite the way through. I think I'm probably

447
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 2: about two thirds of the way through. And right now

448
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: I see he's leaning probably towards Brady, you know, because

449
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 2: as any as good as any coach can be, it's

450
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 2: the players that have to execute it, the players that

451
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 2: have to.

452
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Speaker 1: Do And how much of Belichick was in Brady, you

453
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Speaker 1: know by that point of his knowledge that he's poured

454
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Speaker 1: into Brady. So yeah, there's no question the guy who's

455
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 1: got to be on the field, pulling the trigger, making

456
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Speaker 1: plays on the clutch, they get the most of the credit.

457
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Speaker 1: And Bill says that every time anyone asks me, and

458
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Speaker 1: I said from the.

459
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Speaker 2: Beginning, you know, when the debate first started, I think

460
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: both of them made each other better. You know, I

461
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: think Belichick would have been fine without Brady. Brady would

462
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: have been great without Belichick. But I don't think either

463
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: of them would have risen to the heights that they

464
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Speaker 2: did without each other. I think they both would have

465
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Speaker 2: found success, but to have this excess they had, I

466
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: think required a coach and a quarterback being on the

467
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Speaker 2: same page. And for most of the dynasty, I can't

468
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Speaker 2: say all of it, but for most of the dynasty

469
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Speaker 2: they certainly were.

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Speaker 1: You know, one more point, I just thought, well, I

471
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Speaker 1: was talking too, just in regards to McDaniels in his system,

472
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Speaker 1: where you have such a group of wide receivers that

473
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Speaker 1: you don't really know what you have, Well, let's let

474
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Speaker 1: this sort it out a little bit. Let's let what

475
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Speaker 1: guys can pick it up and are smart and are

476
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Speaker 1: on the ball, and you know, you're charting a course

477
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Speaker 1: this season forward. It isn't all about twenty twenty five.

478
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: It's about twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. You

479
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: got twelve or thirteen receivers on the roster right now.

480
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Speaker 1: We know Mac Hollins probably can figure it out. He's

481
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Speaker 1: played in it. Stefan Diggs has kind of played in

482
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Speaker 1: it with dable system. Who else can who else King?

483
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Speaker 2: So that's a good topic for discussion, because you're right.

484
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: Everything you said is right. Camp opens to the public

485
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: on July twenty third. The first preseason game is August eighth,

486
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 2: and then we're rolling. I mean, it's not you know,

487
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,879
Speaker 2: you've got a month and a half before the first

488
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Speaker 2: regular season, you know, a month and a half from

489
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Speaker 2: the time camp opens. Six weeks until the first game

490
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Speaker 2: that counts. How quickly do you need to know who's

491
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Speaker 2: who when it comes to the receivers? And is there

492
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Speaker 2: a way to do that for McDaniels and Vrabel? Is

493
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Speaker 2: there a way to structure your practices in a way

494
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Speaker 2: that the cream rises to the cop the top quickly

495
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Speaker 2: because you don't have a lot of time for this.

496
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Speaker 1: No, And it goes on in the film room too,

497
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Speaker 1: And I imagine with so much of this being mental

498
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna know. And Vrabel is known for calling

499
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Speaker 1: guys out in practice and meetings, just like Belichick was.

500
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Speaker 1: But you're right, I wonder Mac Collins, is he healthy?

501
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: Is Stefan Diggs healthy? Are they ready to go? If

502
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Speaker 1: they're not ready to go? Does that maybe give a

503
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Speaker 1: little bit more of an apportain to some of these

504
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: younger guys to pick it up? But you know, for

505
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: someone like Javon Baker, for example, who some people are

506
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: still high on and think has an opportunity. Was he

507
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Speaker 1: able to get it up?

508
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 7: Is he?

509
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: Or do we get out there and you see not

510
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: just him, but any player like no, no, no, over there,

511
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: over there, you know, getting re lined up. We saw

512
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of that last year where we got to

513
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: stop re huddle those kind of things. Any of those

514
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: mistakes I think will really stand out during training camp.

515
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: Guys who just don't seem to be in the right

516
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 1: place at the right time. And that's I think a

517
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Speaker 1: big feature of Josh's system knowing what to do. So

518
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Speaker 1: it's a big thing. It's gonna be really interesting.

519
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Speaker 2: I've watched enough of these camps where you get the

520
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 2: early indicators about who they're favoring, who matches up with who,

521
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: who's getting the reps, that type of thing. So it

522
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Speaker 2: I think within the first certainly by the joint practice,

523
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Speaker 2: and after that, we'll kind of know.

524
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Speaker 1: Who who's running, who's with the top group, which is

525
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Speaker 1: probably gonna be five or six guys that are you know,

526
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: their two fields, they kind of divide up. You'll have

527
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Speaker 1: a sense of who's the type. You already have a

528
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: little bit of that sense. But it's uh, I think

529
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Speaker 1: it's be really interesting. I just think, you know, like

530
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Speaker 1: I said, Mac Hollins, that's probably why he's here a

531
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Speaker 1: little bit too. It's just he knows what Josh is selling.

532
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: He understands it. He had a great year under Josh's system,

533
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Speaker 1: but you know which of those guys does it? Does

534
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: it really click for Kaishan Boodie? Is he you know

535
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: those kind of things? And and it's Drake picking it

536
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: up too. Is Drake, you know, feeling comfortable? Yeah, that's

537
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Speaker 1: what we saw over the course of the spring, he

538
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: looked more.

539
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Speaker 2: Have we figured out where, uh, this little passing camp

540
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: happened with? Because I've heard Tampa and I've also heard

541
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Speaker 2: North Carolin.

542
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure North Carolina because then I saw another

543
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Speaker 4: video that was at Davidson Okay.

544
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Speaker 3: I saw the stadium and I looked at it.

545
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Speaker 1: So was that that was that the Drake to Remandre

546
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Speaker 1: on a on a.

547
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Speaker 2: What is it like a traveling road show? Can't they

548
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: just find one place and stick with it?

549
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 8: Well?

550
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Speaker 3: Is it confirmed that they were ever in Florida?

551
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Speaker 1: No, I don't know. They're caught conflicting reports about about

552
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Speaker 1: where they were.

553
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Speaker 4: But I looked at the actual state, looked it up

554
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Speaker 4: and it was Davidson.

555
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Speaker 1: Okay college.

556
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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

557
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Speaker 3: I don't know how far that is from the ocean.

558
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Speaker 2: Maybe they're I mean, I've heard everything from Drake's old

559
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: high school to some college. I've heard Tampa.

560
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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's I mean, this might sound silly, and

561
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: I wish Paul was here because he would probably make

562
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Speaker 1: fun of me and laugh about it. But like, I

563
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Speaker 1: really enjoyed seeing Drake launch that bomb to remondering, almost

564
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Speaker 1: more than watching the private workouts that most quarterbacks and

565
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,199
Speaker 1: teams do. It just reminded me of a bunch of

566
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: boys hanging out doing stupid stuff together. Reminds me of like,

567
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: you know, some of my best friends from college that

568
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 1: I played with, and it's like, those are the bonds

569
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Speaker 1: I think that make teams. Yes, you want to go

570
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: work out, We're gonna throw some passes. Great, everybody's got

571
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Speaker 1: to do it, stay sharp, stay in shape a little bit.

572
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like if you guys all

573
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Speaker 1: really really like each other, and I mean that that

574
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Speaker 1: to me and body did It's just like, what a

575
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: bunch of idiots out there. And I mean that in

576
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: a great way, you know, like that's what me and

577
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Speaker 1: my stupid friends are doing. Let's see we can complete

578
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: a pass off this thing, I'm gonna jump up. So

579
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: I think there's good vibes coming from the offense and

580
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: from Drake May and I just hope this momentum all

581
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: carries over. It's the same way last year. I remember

582
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: saying like this is great. Now every no one knows

583
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: anything about drop May or anything. But once we start playing,

584
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 1: you know it's going to start the game. Games are

585
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: gonna get lost, and problems will start to happen. But

586
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: right now, I think they got a lot of positive

587
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: momentum in more ways than one going into this training camp.

588
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Speaker 2: Mike and Florida writes in the difference between your show

589
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: and Paul's shows is that you are both critical of

590
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: the team, but you guys want us to win, and

591
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: those guys want us to lose because it helps their ratings.

592
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: Even the post game when they lose, the guy Joe

593
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: Murray sounds happy. It's crazy. I don't agree with that

594
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: completely because the ratings are worse in a town where

595
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: a team doesn't do well. The ratings are never better

596
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: for any of the shows than when the team is

597
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: doing well, whether it's the Patriots, Red Sox or whoever.

598
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: But for the host in the moment, it's kind of

599
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: better when this stuff to bitch about. Yeah, you know, so,

600
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: I agree that part, But the ratings are better when

601
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: the team is doing well.

602
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: I to be honest, and I usually will dabble during

603
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: the season because I feel like for these shows, we

604
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: need to stay sharp. And sometimes it's great to hear

605
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: Felger go on one of his rants and imagine how

606
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: I would respond to it, but without any pushback. Like

607
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: it was fun when the Patriots were good and it

608
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: was like, well, yeah, but Belichick's still gonna get you, you know,

609
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: And it's to me when they've been bad the last

610
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: couple of years, it just feels like punching down and

611
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: it's like anything that is possibly could be wrong, we're

612
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: going to shine a light on that, and it's like,

613
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: that's not this team anymore. This is like a team

614
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: that's young and unproven that I want to get excited

615
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: about to see grow together and not just sit there

616
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: and take a dump on every little minutia that is

617
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: wrong or like. So, I really haven't been listening to

618
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: any of Paul's shows at all lately, and I'm sure

619
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: that'll change a little bit once I get into the season,

620
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: but I just it doesn't ring true to me anymore.

621
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Speaker 1: It was fun when they were good and you were like, oh,

622
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: eedif Felger they won this one, or you know, But

623
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Speaker 1: when you're like, yeah, we know they're bad. They won

624
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: four games, Like, you're not telling me anything. I didn't know,

625
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: Like what do you what do you want to do?

626
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: It's just it's not compelling radio to me. I don't

627
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: know what the ratings are like for them, but to me,

628
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's a lot more fun when there's some

629
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: back and forth and it feels like, oh, the Patriots

630
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: are good and maybe you're wrong about that. You're like, no, guys,

631
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: when you're saying this, they won four games last year,

632
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah they were bad.

633
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 4: I think audiences are just smarter now too, Like the

634
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: strategy of outrage sparking interest and clicks and headlines, it's

635
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 4: it's figured out by now.

636
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know the people who have it

637
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: down to an art form. I just find there's plenty

638
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: of stuff to talk about. I would have it constantly.

639
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, I think Felger does a great job.

640
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: If we're gonna name names, you know, so I don't

641
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: mind that at all. But my problem is there's rarely

642
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: someone to talk back. There's rarely someone there, either with

643
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: the hoodspa or the not college to go back at him. Yeah,

644
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: and I think that would make it even better if

645
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: there was always a pall in the studio or somebody

646
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: who could call him out or at least give the

647
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: counter argument. I think there's too much agreement on you know,

648
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: going on.

649
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: You're right, Mike, You're right. Yeah, No, I agree with you.

650
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Speaker 1: I think they're great at what they do. I'm just

651
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: saying for me and for like getting me excited about

652
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: arguing about the team or talking about talking points. It's like,

653
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: you're not really providing me any talking points that I'm

654
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: interested in talking about, Like right now, I love talking

655
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: about position battles and where the depth is and where

656
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: players need to emerge, and those things are so fascinating

657
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: to me. I could talk about them in the middle

658
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: of July when we have nothing to talk about for hours.

659
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I think you have to kind of

660
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: do it in the season though. You have to be

661
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: on top of what they're talking about because they drive

662
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation. A lot of the calls

663
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: that we're going to get are people who heard that

664
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: what they were saying are like, I'm going to call

665
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: on the Patriots unfiltered and pairrot that to them now,

666
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, so you got to be ready.

667
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: But more importantly you heard about Brady and Sophia.

668
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm hoping we were talking.

669
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Speaker 2: About how how much older is she fifty?

670
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: Early fifties, she's the early fifties, he's like forty eight.

671
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: I believe she looks like she's still like early for

672
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: he's a Butell South America.

673
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: Giselle was older than Tom.

674
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, just a couple of years, not as much,

675
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: I know.

676
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: And and then wasn't Bridget moynihan also older than Tom?

677
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: I would think so yeah.

678
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 2: That probably think well, if if at that point she

679
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: was older, she's older now, she would always be older.

680
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: How was Irena Shiit?

681
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: Oh? Wow, you're really going down the list here.

682
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: He has a type. I love it he.

683
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Does, right, except for well, I wonder, like I think

684
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: is Romanian?

685
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: I wonder if growing up with three older sisters kind

686
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: of has him. He has an affinity towards.

687
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: Fire, was getting yelled at by his sister. I just

688
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Speaker 1: picture four. Bridget's fifty four. Okay, yeah, I think they're

689
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: all a little bit little bit older than him.

690
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: I love that for him.

691
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: Reid, wasn't that a rumor at one point that.

692
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: Off, Well, there was a brief rumor at Jeff Bezo's sweating.

693
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: He was like talking to Sydney Sweeney and I was like,

694
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: they're just talking.

695
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: That's on his type. And then a couple of days later,

696
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: so Regard was like, that's more like it, just.

697
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: Like when he's getting yelled at by that like that accent.

698
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: Like her and Modern Family. Just I love her. I

699
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: think she's awesome. So she looks great. Still like killing.

700
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: It career in a Modern Family.

701
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: What you know? That was such a good show.

702
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: The rumor is Stefon Diggs has broken up with Cardi B.

703
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 8: Great.

704
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, focus on, focused on.

705
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: Focus on the season. He's focused on his recovery. I

706
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: love it.

707
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: No distractions, no, I uh no, Everyone's gonna probably make

708
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: fun of me as I like slowly get on the

709
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: stiff On Digs bandwagon. But I'm getting on it for sure.

710
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: Settled.

711
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch him play, and just like just

712
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: the way he was talking to the camera about learning

713
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and was like, this guy is locked in, Like I

714
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: love it, Like he just he gives the vibe still

715
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: of a guy with a chip on his shoulder, and

716
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: I guess that's you know what annoyed me about him

717
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: when he played for other teams and he plays on

718
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: the edge and he likes talking.

719
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: Welcome to the world of the closest we had was

720
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Randy Moss and Brady in particular, how to spend a

721
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: lot of time himself keeping Randy focus because he's such

722
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: a pied piper and he could lead other players down

723
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: the wrong path, and it was it was a job

724
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: keeping him, you know, focused on football and not bitching

725
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: about money and that type of thing.

726
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: Well, if I'm if I'm Kayshawan Boody or Jalen Polk

727
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: or go right down the list, and I see that video,

728
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, he's that's leadership to me. That's showing

729
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: he's locked in. He's on a private plane. Where's he going?

730
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you can tell that he's caged

731
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: in this and such a good example for this receiving

732
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: room that needs that kind of leadership and needs that

733
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: kind of kick in the butt and to be like,

734
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: what are you doing when you're flying back from wherever

735
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in your playbook? Then like no, Like,

736
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: that's what Brady did as well. Brady set the tone.

737
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: I think Bill said it one hundred times and the

738
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: other coaches when your best players are your hardest workers,

739
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: and set the tone. It's a great recipe for success.

740
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: I remember in the locker room some of the rookies

741
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: were playing, you know, ping pong or I forget what

742
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: they were doing. They weren't in their play and you know,

743
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: McGinnis walked by and you know, why aren't you in

744
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: your playbook?

745
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, And I think verbel different because he's the

746
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: coach now, but I think there's a similar vibe of

747
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: that of holding guys accountable mentioned earlier, known for calling

748
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: guys out in meetings with questions that put you on

749
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: the spot, like Bill did. I think that that that's

750
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: just such a huge element. People talk about the Patriot way.

751
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's really what it was. But

752
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: McGinnis everybody talks about his door being where Jawan Bentley's

753
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: was right by that back door, and anybody who's trying

754
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: to leave you got to walk by the enforcer of

755
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: the team, and everything was a competition with those guys.

756
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh hydration to all of it. You got to get

757
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: back to the point where it's that competitive within the

758
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: locker room to push each other to be.

759
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: Better self policing.

760
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that's I mean, that's the dream for a coach,

761
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: because you don't have to then worry about you know,

762
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: I now have to go in and discipline this guy.

763
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: It's no the teammates are gonna hold him accountable for

764
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: not doing enough.

765
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: Andre's right, sin but says I like this combination, Mike Alex.

766
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: It's fun, light and varied. I can't wait for the

767
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: eighth I can't wait for the eighteenth for two reasons.

768
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 2: One obviously the Forge in Foxboro second episode, and it's

769
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: the day they tell me if I pass my Step

770
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: one medical residency here in Costa Rica, go for it.

771
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: I love hearing you guys in my spare time in

772
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: the car everywhere. I'm kind of nervous since only twenty

773
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: five percent of the people who did the exam can pass,

774
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: and then I have to do Step two. Can't wait

775
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: to hear the news that I passed so I can

776
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: sit and watch the whole episode. Thanks guys, in a

777
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: hug for everyone. Speaking of Forge and Foxborough, forged in Pittsburgh.

778
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: God, did you see someone h.

779
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: They're getting a lot of heat. I don't think it

780
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: has to do with a documentary. I think it's like

781
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: some type of uniform release type of thing. But it

782
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: is kind of weird and.

783
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: It's not great copywriting.

784
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: Not to be super picky, but there's not really any alliteration.

785
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: I get like the forge steel like metal, sure.

786
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: But put together in Pittsburgh, it doesn't have the same

787
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: ring to it.

788
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right, but that was our fans were

789
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: quick to jump on that.

790
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: Yes, there's one team that we can still kind of

791
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: talk some smack too for real. Right, we'll see how

792
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: it goes though. Week three, Boy, that's gonna be that's

793
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a good game. We need a name for

794
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: the thing, Like Evan and Paul were Salt and Peppers,

795
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: so maybe we need like a nineties you know, wrap

796
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: band like.

797
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: The Fam show, Fred Allixon, Mike the Fam.

798
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Workshop back Pocket's trying to.

799
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: Think like TLC, like Salt Peppa TLC, but we're not.

800
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: We're not tl r C.

801
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: Well, I think an emailer came up with salt and Peppers.

802
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: So if you guys think of anything, send in our way.

803
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Let's see.

804
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: This is.

805
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: Brandon in Maine says I have some would you rather

806
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: questions involving our quarterback in regards to comparison with other quarterbacks.

807
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: You won't find the top end guys here Mahomes, Burrow,

808
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: Allan Jackson, as those aren't realistic. And you won't find

809
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: the older guys Roger Stafford Gino Smith because they're short timers.

810
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: In short. In a recent discussion with a friend comparing

811
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: May to other quarterbacks, who we'd rather have for now

812
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: in the next five years? So there is some need

813
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: to consider longevity, growth and staying healthy. This exercise helped

814
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 2: us see just how highly or not we thought of Drake.

815
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: So for the next five years, who would you rather have?

816
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: I broke it into three sections. See if you make

817
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: it too complicated. For the first two my friend and

818
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: I were in agreement it was always Drake. The final

819
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 2: section is where we found this all right. The first

820
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: section easy call Drake or Bonnett.

821
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: Drake. Oh, you had to think, well, Bonis had a

822
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: good year. I want to give him some respect.

823
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: Drake or Kyle Murray. Oh, Drake Drake or Brock Purty, Drake,

824
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: Drake or Jared Goff.

825
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: The next five years.

826
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: Drake, Drake or Baker Mayfield d Drake or Tua Drake.

827
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: Now this is they have to think about it. Section

828
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: Drake or Trevor Lawrence. Ah, Drake, I'd have to think

829
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: about that.

830
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: Did you have to think about the Baker one?

831
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: No?

832
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: No, No, I think a lot of these answers were

833
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: basically I think.

834
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: We've seen Baker Mayfield's ceiling.

835
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: Right, That's what that's that's That's what I'm saying. Not

836
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 1: to say that I think Drake is better than Baker

837
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: Mayfield right now, but I think I'm that he might

838
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: be bad.

839
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: I still and maybe I'm just naive and and sticking

840
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: with my original take, but I'm still I still think

841
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: that Trevor Lawrence hasn't reached his dealing in the NFL

842
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: for what for various reasons. Yeah, Drake or Jalen hurts.

843
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: Guys awesome, probably hurts, probably hurts.

844
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Drake here because I think in

845
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: the end he's going to be the better passer.

846
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that would be That would be why I

847
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: would take Drake if he thought that. But I got

848
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: to put some respect on.

849
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: Drake or Dak Prescott Drake. Okay, so this is the

850
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: harder section, Drake or Jordan Love.

851
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I take Drake. I've seen enough of Jordan Love. I

852
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 1: think he's good, but.

853
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Drake or c J. Stroud Really really okay, Drake, how

854
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: come you're not answering anything?

855
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: And I'm a libra. I'm really bad at decision making.

856
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: She blamed astrology.

857
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: Drake or Caleb Williams.

858
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Drake.

859
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Drake or Jayden Daniels.

860
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: I might reserve answered all after this season, but I

861
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: gotta see Rake or Justin Herbert. See that to me

862
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: is similar, and I'm gonna go with Drake. Same kind

863
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: of like unknown with Drake.

864
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: Still maybe we've seen the ceiling for Herbert too. I

865
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: don't know, he hasn't want anything.

866
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: And you just keep waiting for him to finally like

867
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: not that he hasn't broken out, but like really.

868
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Brandon says, in the end, I took Drake

869
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: over everyone, but Justin Herbert. My friend preferred James and Herbert.

870
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. I had a similar thought last night.

871
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: I was watching Brock Perdy get interviewed about I was

872
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: watching the NFL Live yesterday. They interviewed Petty about losing Debo,

873
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: and he was talking about Debo and his impact on

874
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: the on the forty nine ers. But I just wondered

875
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: how many fans truly believe their quarterback could be the guy,

876
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: you know, like, do you really believe that? Like when

877
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: I look at brock Perdy, I'm like, I don't believe

878
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: he's the guy. I understand San Francisco is in a

879
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: position where they kind of have to pay him, like

880
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: they couldn't just let him walk right Yea, So it's hard.

881
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: You almost feel like you're being held hostage. And I

882
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: do the same thing with like some of those quarterbacks,

883
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: Like you know, to Tampa fans, they really think Baker

884
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: Mayfield's the guy in their heart of hearts with no

885
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: no one else around. I don't know, And that's a

886
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: lot of how I figured out some of my answers

887
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, because I say, you know, Burrow, sure,

888
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Fanas's the guy, no question, you know, obviously, mahomes

889
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, sure they believe, even though there might be

890
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: a little doubting get the good one, Josh Allen. They

891
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: believe one hundred percent. But I don't think the list

892
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: is very long of fan bases that truly believe like

893
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: they got the guy. They so guy, what defines the

894
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: guy in your mind? You believe this could be a

895
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl winning quarterback and consistently have your team deep

896
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. You know, you believe one hundred percent

897
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: this is a guy that can take us into the

898
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: playoffs every year, and one of these years he's absolutely

899
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: gonna get.

900
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: So that's why consistency every year because of him.

901
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: But the great ones great, right, I mean in Burrow,

902
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: they had a down year last year, but I think

903
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: everybody still believes that Joe Burrow is, you know, an

904
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: elite quarterback in this league with the capability. He's already

905
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: gone to one super Bowl, But I mean, I'm not

906
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: there yet. On Drake, like, I don't one hundred percent. Yes,

907
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: he's definitely the guy, And I think aybody who says

908
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: that to you after that season is lying to themselves

909
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: or lying to us. And that's not a bad thing.

910
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: It's just he was a rookie last year. I don't

911
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: know if any of those rookie quarterbacks, maybe Daniels, you

912
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: could say, yes, they they probably definitely believe he's the

913
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: guy right now. But let's see how he does over

914
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: two three years span. Some things change around him. Does

915
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: he avoid injury?

916
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: Those are questions, What does the team look like around them,

917
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: et cetera.

918
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, gee, those new commanders uniforms too, they brought

919
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: back Yeah, p old ones just with the w on

920
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: the scene people. I like it too. It's a tradition,

921
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: Like I am a guy that I want to look different.

922
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: So there's not much, but I just think the classic

923
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: like you look on the field and it takes you

924
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: a millisecond to know what teams are on the field.

925
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: If you have to look on the fielder like what

926
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: is this unless it's like one of those weird throwback weeks,

927
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: you know, like, I don't want it. I want to

928
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: know who the team is right away.

929
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So I like that one. Let's see Mark and

930
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: Cheddar says, after all the Christian and La talk recently,

931
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: it made me wonder how Fred and Paul would rank

932
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: the following beloved listeners least to most hated. He's got

933
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: five Christian in La, Mark and the Bay, Jeff in Vegas,

934
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: Matt and Brooklyn, and Eric in Providence.

935
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: I don't know two of those.

936
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: I think I think least would be Eric in Providence.

937
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: Most right now is Christian in La. But at the

938
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: time Mark in the Bay was.

939
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: Was that just for Eric? Though?

940
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah he was an actual listener.

941
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: The form he's just kidding. I don't remember Matt and

942
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: Brooklyn that much, but I guess he was annoying. And

943
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: Jeff and Vegas. I kind of remember.

944
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: Now Christian's embraced the mantle of the show villain and

945
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: I think it's good.

946
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, she must be in vacation. We never heard from

947
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 3: him this week, haven't we.

948
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: It's more tropical than that.

949
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 6: Oh.

950
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: Another listener from a while ago, what happened to Mikey

951
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: Vandalism with his Premium Audio? I forget about him. Yeah,

952
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: that was his name, Mikey Vandalism, And he is kind

953
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: of saying his slogan was premium Audio.

954
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: Really.

955
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what happened to him. He's probably

956
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: in jail.

957
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is funny.

958
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: It was way back.

959
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: I've realized a couple of times, like somebody just disappears

960
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: from social media and you think about, whatever happened to

961
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: that guy? Yeah? I tweeted him a couple of times.

962
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: Or there was some guy who covered the NFL for

963
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: a little bit that again was like all it was

964
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: in the mix with every major company that just disappeared.

965
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: It happened sometimes, what happened? Who's William Benison? I don't know.

966
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: Is he still around?

967
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: He was like he got what happened to Miguel cap

968
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: space mil.

969
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: Oh he's still around?

970
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: Right? I think I think he left Twitter and you

971
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: went to the other one. What is that?

972
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: Blusky eight five five Pats five hundred is the hotline?

973
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Christian Chris with a T, I A N in Boston

974
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: is on the line.

975
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: What's up?

976
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: Christian?

977
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 9: Hey guys, you know, it's interesting you talk about where

978
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 9: do all those people go? I can tell you I

979
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 9: think the pandemic and the Trump administration got.

980
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: A lot of them off. So yeah, some of them, Yeah, yeah.

981
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 9: I mean you don't see anybody posting like they used

982
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 9: to post on there anymore. It's it looks like with

983
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 9: sports content. But I wanted to talk about the you

984
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 9: guys mentioned about, you know, off the top of the

985
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 9: show about you know, how did it all work when

986
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 9: Brady was feared during the Brady Belichick era? And you know,

987
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 9: obviously the credit a lot of the credit gost to

988
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 9: Bill and thom.

989
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 10: And rightfully so.

990
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 9: But the more I listened to ex players like Matt

991
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 9: Light or rich Olmberg or even Josh McDaniels on various

992
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 9: podcasts and stuff, it really was like the perfect storm

993
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 9: of players and coaches because when they talk about Dante

994
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 9: or they talk about Ivan, like the reverence is off

995
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 9: the charts, you know, and it's it wasn't just about Bill,

996
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 9: Like even when they talk about Billy O'Brien, a great

997
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 9: All of them were great teachers, and they would yell

998
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 9: at you and they would show you out, but they

999
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 9: would get the most out of you because they taught you.

1000
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 9: And I'm just you know, I guess I really never

1001
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 9: gave a whole lot of weight by that. You know,

1002
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 9: I was like, this guy thinks this guy's good, you know,

1003
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 9: and need that be the extent of it. But the

1004
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 9: coaching is, you know, it wasn't obviously it wasn't just Bill.

1005
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 9: A little big part of it was it was the potus.

1006
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think being on Bill's staff kind

1007
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: of in some ways it makes it tougher because you know,

1008
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: you have to do as a coach, you have to

1009
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: do what you're supposed to be doing. But in other

1010
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: places it makes it easier because you just do what

1011
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm being told to do, Like Bill setting the tone,

1012
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: he's he's the CEO, and as long as I follow

1013
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: the way he wants things done. I've got a job.

1014
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what what Dante Scarnekia said to me.

1015
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: He said, Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick were the two

1016
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: easiest coaches I ever worked for, because you knew exactly

1017
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: what they expected of you every single day, and so

1018
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: it's a good job for them establishing the system.

1019
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: Yep, I mean, thanks Christian. I mean some of the

1020
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: criticism of Bill was like he didn't think passed a

1021
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: couple of days down the road and so coaches would

1022
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: know when am I going to have time off? But

1023
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: on the other hand, that was sort of the way

1024
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: that Bill kept things in line. Let's not think about

1025
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: things until we have to think about them. Let's focus

1026
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: on today and tomorrow and get those days right, and

1027
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 2: then we'll think about, you know, when we're leaving for

1028
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: the joint practice and all that stuff. And that would

1029
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 2: drive some people crazy, but it kept things orderly, kept

1030
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: things in line, and.

1031
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: Also, you know, helped the team overcome when they lose

1032
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: a game or they'd win a game, like it was

1033
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: always flushed down the toilet and you would just focus

1034
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: on today and this week's opponent. And it's one of

1035
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: the things I admire most about Bill Belichi's coaching philosophy.

1036
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: Coaches around the league. I think we'll tell you, like

1037
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: one day at a time, we're just but he really

1038
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: lived it. That was you know, as you said, it

1039
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: was baked within the system, within their scheduling, and everything

1040
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: was focused on not letting guys get ahead of themselves,

1041
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: to focus on the moment and to get better. And

1042
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: it was key part of his coaching philosophy.

1043
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: Yep, Nate's in Connecticut. Nate, you're becoming a regular caller.

1044
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: What's up?

1045
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: What up?

1046
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: Not much?

1047
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 8: How you guys doing?

1048
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So I.

1049
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 8: Know you guys already mentioned this today, but it's about

1050
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 8: Christian Dalas. So clearly he put the league on notice

1051
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 8: this year, locking up like people like Jamar Chase and

1052
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 8: DK Cast except for that one place.

1053
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 9: But yeah, you guys know what I'm talking about.

1054
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: The safety blue of the covers. It's not it's fall Yeah.

1055
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 8: Well yeah, but anyways, he was ranked, you guys said,

1056
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 8: eighty four on that top one hundred list.

1057
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 11: Do you guys think this ranking is just.

1058
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 9: Right too low or too high for him personally?

1059
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 8: I think it might be a little too low. If

1060
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 8: I had to put him somewhere. I'd probably put him

1061
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 8: anywhere from sixty.

1062
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 2: To well without okay, thanks Nate, without seeing the entire list.

1063
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: It's hard to know that.

1064
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: But I think this is more about politics, and this

1065
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: is Gonzalez's second really his first full year.

1066
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: So you start by saying, what's his number for just cornerbacks?

1067
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1068
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, is he like the fourth best cornerback?

1069
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I didn't say he's definitely in the

1070
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: top ten, you know, so yeah.

1071
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely in the top ten. So you start there,

1072
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 2: where is he as a cornerback? What's his number there?

1073
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: And then you expand out.

1074
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: I think it's important to point out to the voting

1075
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: the way the voting works with this. It is like

1076
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: each player writes twenty players down. So you know, some

1077
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: guys were putting Christian Gonzalez in their top ti.

1078
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 2: Are you're allowed to put your own teammates?

1079
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: And think so I think, oh, yeah, so you know

1080
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: that it's a little bit restrictive in that regard. But

1081
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: I look at it like the Pro Bowl, where you're

1082
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: just building a name for yourself and then you know

1083
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: you'll probably get more Pro Bowls even when you're kind

1084
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: of pastor Prime because you have the name recognition. So

1085
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: I think Gonzalez is building up. I think it's about

1086
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: right for where he is in his career. He put

1087
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: one really good season together and he has opportunity. I

1088
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: think he'd move up next year for sure.

1089
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 8: Yep.

1090
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: Let's see John in South Carolina says I have never

1091
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: agreed with Deuce more. He says, you guys are the

1092
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 2: only sports media Boston sports media. I enjoy those shows

1093
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: Duce was talking about are punching down and they bully

1094
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 2: any thought that doesn't agree with them. Every time I try,

1095
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: I do not make it through a show. I also

1096
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: want to say the guy from La isn't in the

1097
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: PFWPU class of bad guy. I think it was Mark

1098
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: in the Bay who everyone hated, or Matt from Brooklyn

1099
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 2: who had Eric aggravated constantly NBL Nick Baby Love who

1100
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: had people aggravated with him while he was going through

1101
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: his treatments. I can't remember his name, so I would

1102
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: refer to him as a guy in La. He tries

1103
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: too hard. When he said he was going to come

1104
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 2: at people, nobody was worried. Okay, here is Nick baby Loved?

1105
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: Well. I don't need a nickname, right, that Mark and

1106
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: the big guy. He hasn't called a lot, and he

1107
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: called more before I got here, but there are a

1108
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: couple of times he called there and it was I

1109
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: was like he was doing a bit like right directed

1110
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: at Eric, like he called in specifically because he wrote

1111
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: like a paragraph just ripping Erscalvino and then he hang up.

1112
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: Who is this guy? But he's faded, I guess because

1113
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: maybe Eric left and he doesn't have any more enjoyment.

1114
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: There was another guy, oh, I forget his name, that

1115
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: really went at Eric to the point where I had

1116
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: to like stop reading.

1117
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: It's usually he kind of encouraged that top somebody, not

1118
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: Vinie Vegas.

1119
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 12: I want to say it was a Jeff in Vegas.

1120
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: No, but that was another guy. But there was another guy.

1121
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: I think he was from Florida, maybe Jacksonville. I don't

1122
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: know if it was. It wasn't Kakar, but he he

1123
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: specifically went at Eric. Oh yeah, yeah.

1124
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: What was it about Eric that just detracted people to

1125
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: go out?

1126
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 2: Because he had an air of pumposity to him, you know,

1127
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 2: like a lot of people just wanted to stick a

1128
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: pin in that balloon.

1129
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: Plus I think you knew you were going to get

1130
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: a reaction from him, which I think you did. You

1131
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: would do that too. We're like, I'm gonna get it

1132
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: going right here, I see an open door.

1133
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's like an antagonizer's dream.

1134
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: It was just so easy. Give you the eyebrows, and

1135
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: then you say something in near it just starts taing.

1136
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: THEO rights in. The Steelers lived up to their name

1137
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: as they stole Forge in Foxborough and changed it to

1138
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: Forge in Pittsburgh. If I feel like this has to

1139
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: put them over the Bengals in Fred's most hated teams, thoughts, Nah,

1140
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: flat imitation is the sincerest form of flattering.

1141
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: Steel mills.

1142
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: They do some fort Yeah, I don't really care.

1143
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 4: It's understandable, but it's like I wonder if they even

1144
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 4: realized they were doing it.

1145
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 1: They may not have better because Patriots putting on great

1146
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: content that they're not aware of, and that shame on them.

1147
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: You send them a season desist.

1148
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's fine. Yeah, we were coming on

1149
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 2: one next week, July eighteenth.

1150
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1151
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: We were first. Everybody knows we were first. That's all.

1152
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: That's all we need to you know. Uh, back to

1153
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 2: the phone. Eldred's on the phone. What's up Eldred.

1154
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: There it is a good one.

1155
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 2: Hey, you're in North Carolina. Did you happen to drive

1156
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: past the Drake may passing camp.

1157
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: He just trashed the receivers while he was driving by.

1158
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine the background is just Eldrid pulls over like.

1159
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: On the side of the road. Hey, y'all, you got

1160
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: no receivers, yelling bumps.

1161
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: Are Hey guys, I'm hauling gatorade.

1162
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: You need that had we had DK out there, don't you?

1163
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: I know? All right, I'm out.

1164
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 13: Exactly what I got exactly right. Hey, but three Yeah,

1165
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 13: did you read that thing about the quarterback you take

1166
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 13: Drake Mayo over?

1167
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1168
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read that.

1169
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, you read it right. Yeah. Well yesterday the

1170
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 13: same thing and between two guys who's hosting it and

1171
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 13: do but they also, like y'all, they brought it up.

1172
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 13: What coaches, where did you rank Mike Graveley at starting

1173
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 13: this year?

1174
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right now, I'd put him right in the middle, probably,

1175
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 2: you know, because you know, he's still got a lot

1176
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: to prove. He had a few good years with Tennessee

1177
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: and then a few down years. A couple you know,

1178
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: his last two weren't that good. So I would say

1179
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: I'd put him right in the middle of the pack

1180
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens.

1181
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what you have to say.

1182
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 13: But yeah, they had him, they had him ranked, They

1183
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 13: ranked him eight eighty.

1184
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I agree, eight perfect.

1185
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I I hope by the end of the

1186
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: season we're saying that or higher. But you know, you

1187
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: just have to be realistic.

1188
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 6: He does.

1189
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the track record a lot of other

1190
00:53:58,480 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: coaches have.

1191
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, there's no other coach right now.

1192
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the link I know that where that's

1193
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: operating the same thing with Drake with a little bit

1194
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: of like unknown and pining the sky feelings towards him,

1195
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: but watching the way that he captures this team's attention

1196
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: on that practice field, he looks like a really good

1197
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: coach to me, and giving this history with this team there,

1198
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: there's nobody else I'd rather have right now.

1199
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I know that's a different way of

1200
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: looking at it, and I agree with that.

1201
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, yep, Mike uh Rape, people want me over. I

1202
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 13: wanted Ben Johnson. Yeah, like you said, I have to

1203
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 13: listen to him, watch him go through the camp and

1204
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 13: everything and how playoffs going okay of hyped up too.

1205
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 13: I'm saying eight wins. I'm open eight or nine? Did

1206
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 13: they go more? I put my I put my head

1207
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 13: back on the store back top and junkie in like

1208
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 13: I used to five years.

1209
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you. I mean, you know, we

1210
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: have to look at the list. You know, maybe I'm

1211
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: underrating him, but you know mc veay, Andy Reid, uh.

1212
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: Shanahan, see you know, yeah, I mean I think I think, yeah,

1213
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: I think.

1214
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 2: So those are three and you know, might be Rabele

1215
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: might be a better coach than Shanahan, but you got

1216
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: you have to prove it, you know, like we might

1217
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: think and believe he's better, but I'm just thinking about

1218
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 2: like the evidence, the actual empirical evidence out there.

1219
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: Who else, well do you think dank Dan Campbell? I mean,

1220
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: have had a lot of like Dan Campbell just want

1221
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: a super right.

1222
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 4: I mean, but even last season at the beginning of

1223
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: the season, people were during the.

1224
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: Season, oh yeah, he was on the hot season in

1225
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: terms of the fans. Yeah. O'Connell up in Minnesota one. Yeah,

1226
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: you know who else?

1227
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: O'Connor is great one because it's it's just an example

1228
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: of they had a great season last year. But there's

1229
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: such belief in Minnesota right now that no matter what happens,

1230
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 1: they experienced already one quarterback change over and he showed

1231
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: he can do it with a new guy. So you

1232
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: just feel really positive. Like they didn't go to the

1233
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: NFC Championship or anything, and it was, you know, a

1234
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: disappointing playoff loss for them, but I think there's such

1235
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: belief in him talking earlier about like what guys really

1236
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: believe in their quarterbacks. I think he's one coach if

1237
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: I was a Minnesota Vikings fan that I'd say, I

1238
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: think we got a really special coach that will make

1239
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: it work as the inevitable ups and downs of the

1240
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: NFL season.

1241
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: You know, Sean Payton has a long track record, so

1242
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: just based on his experience in the NFL, I think

1243
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 2: you'd have to rank him higher at this point than

1244
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: very able. But that could you know, that could change,

1245
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: and we all hope it will.

1246
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: I think we're right now and we were in this

1247
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: stage last year too. You're in that gray area where

1248
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: you can still kind of imagine what the possibilities are

1249
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: with Drake May and Mike Rabel. Whereas as the season

1250
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: start going you start getting reality hits you and then

1251
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: you realize you know what it is actually going to be.

1252
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: But at this point, when people ask us questions like this,

1253
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: like you could still say, like, I think Drake may

1254
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: could be a top five quarterback. I think Mike Rabel

1255
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: can be top five point and very well they might be,

1256
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: but we have to start. I'm not going to be

1257
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: in fantasy lean forever. We were in fantasy land for

1258
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: like three weeks last year, once the regular season started

1259
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: and the reality started to hit home of what the

1260
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: situation really was. But they are, you know, they're a

1261
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: handful of teams. When you start to turn around Houston

1262
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: last year they felt great, you know, and they still

1263
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 1: feel great, but they had some reality kind of sinking

1264
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: last year where they were struggled to protect c. J. Stroud.

1265
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of a fun place to be

1266
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: in this fantasy land place where you can just say,

1267
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: like I think Drake could be great, I think Verbe

1268
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: could be great. You know, we'll see once the reality

1269
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: comes of how true that is.

1270
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: Pete and Seattle writes in Pete Carroll, Pete maybe in Vegas.

1271
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: He moved to Vegas?

1272
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: Of course?

1273
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he says, I really appreciate your point about

1274
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: the significant impact of coaching, especially in football. We saw

1275
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: this clearly with Mac Jones in his second year. If

1276
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: coaching is so crucial for quarterback in year two, it's

1277
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: arguably even more vital for rookies transitioning from college to

1278
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: the NFL, a notoriously difficult jump for all positions. This

1279
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: brings me to the twenty four Patriots draft class. While

1280
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: players like Polk and Baker have faced criticism, I wonder

1281
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: if they were set up for failure. As Andrew Callahan

1282
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: and Karen Garigian highlighted earlier this year, a large part

1283
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: of last year's coaching staff was woefully inexperienced. While players

1284
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: are accountable for their own performance, it's fair to question

1285
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: the support they received well. According to Elliott Wolfe, he

1286
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: kind of agrees with that. That was what he said

1287
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: after the season. If we extend grace to Mac Jones

1288
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: for his struggles under Matt Patrician Joe Judge in his

1289
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: second year, shouldn't we consider that these rookies lack fundamental

1290
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: coaching support when they needed it most. It's hardly surprising

1291
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: that few of last year's draft picks blossom given the

1292
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: inexperience of the coaching staff. So what are your thoughts

1293
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 2: on this?

1294
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? True, and that's part of the reason made the

1295
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: point about Jalen Polk last show we did, where you know,

1296
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: if he had a really productive camp and then had

1297
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: some struggles and they were unable to get him out

1298
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: of those struggles, maybe some of that was self inflicted him.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put it all on the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: like he's just a superstar war to happen, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's a very very valid point.

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Speaker 2: Well, again, Elliott Wolfe said after this season, and I'm paraphrasing,

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Speaker 2: but I was hoping that a lot of these players

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Speaker 2: would have gotten more support. Is that what he said?

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Speaker 1: Development?

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Speaker 2: Maybe something something? Yeah, So that means coaching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's I mean when he said that,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, of course, of course you did. Like even

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Speaker 1: when you look at again the summer, like you saw

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Speaker 1: Jalen Pole as the example being productive, and then you

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Speaker 1: got to the record season and it wasn't happening.

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Speaker 4: And that's kind of the difference of like the fantasy

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Speaker 4: land that we're living in right now that you were

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Speaker 4: just talking about. That's why it's different this year, Like, yes,

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Speaker 4: we're still living in a little bit of that fantasy,

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Speaker 4: but there's so much more experience ye behind the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you believe that. I believe, you know,

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Speaker 1: I believe in in Vrabel right now. I think the

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Speaker 1: players believe in what he's selling now. I had my

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Speaker 1: Sharon Men's club talk the other day. I was like,

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Speaker 1: it's very well real. Is this for real? Like the

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Speaker 1: excitement stuff? And I said, look, I I'll just tell

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Speaker 1: you my limited experience. I mean, I've been here six

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Speaker 1: years now watching training camp. I just I've never seen

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Speaker 1: a coach out there with that kind of energy and

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Speaker 1: jumping from drill to drill and getting right in there.

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Speaker 1: Bill certainly, I gotta give credit to Bill. He could

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Speaker 1: talk to any position group and he would float. But

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Speaker 1: the energy that Rabel does it with, You're just where

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Speaker 1: is he? He's over there, he's in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a drill, he's got a pinny on, he's you know,

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Speaker 1: those things to me as a player, which just really

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Speaker 1: make you want to play hard for him. Definitely saw

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Speaker 1: an interview I think it was Mike and when you no, sorry,

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Speaker 1: it was Layden Robinson. Laden Robinson did an interview yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I just caught some highlights of it, but similar things

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Speaker 1: saying about Mike Rabel, like a guy you could just

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Speaker 1: tell how into it he is, how he's able to

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Speaker 1: jump from everything, you know, from drill to drill, and

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Speaker 1: it's infectious, I think. And that's that's what I'm expecting.

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Speaker 1: That this team is going to be built in his

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Speaker 1: mold of how he wants it, and his fingerprint is

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Speaker 1: going to be on all this and that to me

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Speaker 1: is what's super exciting, just to see a physical, aggressive

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Speaker 1: team when you're gonna come in here. My hope, and

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Speaker 1: again we're in fantasy land right now, but my hope

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Speaker 1: is that you in here to try to beat this team.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take a lot. You know, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to come with a good game because they're going

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Speaker 1: to play hard and aggressive, and they have more talent

1351
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Speaker 1: now and that's probably you know, Paul was sitting here

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Speaker 1: and say that's the bottom line. You got more talent,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be better. So hopefully it's convergence. As the

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Speaker 1: previous guy said, like, you need a little of everything,

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Speaker 1: and I think they've got the ingredients.

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Speaker 2: Todd's in North Carolina on the hot line. What's up, Todd, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: I've been enjoying the show, and I think he's been

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Speaker 2: talking about also the topics.

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Speaker 10: But it's got something that's.

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Speaker 12: Been I've been curious about for a while. How much

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Speaker 12: did the two losses to the Giants and the Super

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Speaker 12: Bowl really cemented in bill head that it's just it's

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Speaker 12: defense first, and and you seem to show after that

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Speaker 12: that he didn't give the offense the love that it

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Speaker 12: se that it needed. I don't know what you guys think,

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Speaker 12: and I want to know.

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Speaker 2: You're a well, if he thought that, then he's incorrect

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Speaker 2: because could have used more than fourteen points in that

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Speaker 2: uh seven Super Bowl, right right right? That was all

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Speaker 2: about the offensive line not protecting Brady and Brady having

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Speaker 2: a bad foot. We forget about that. But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean if we had scored more than fourteen points to

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Speaker 2: win that game, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, what more can you do? It's just really a

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Speaker 1: matter about peaking at the right time. But I think

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Speaker 1: this hints at another point when're talking about like the

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Speaker 1: credit thing, it's like, well, it's Brady and Belichick and

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Speaker 1: then yeah, there's like three percent for I mean, like

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Speaker 1: how many of those everyone, like, I mean, I have

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Speaker 1: to tell every one of those Super Bowls the defense

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Speaker 1: had to make a play, super Bowl forty nine being

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Speaker 1: the most obvious example, where I mean they Marshall Lynch

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Speaker 1: just runs the ball and Brady loves another super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You know, credit Brady to like, but it was a

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Speaker 1: convergence of everything at the right time. You got, you know,

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Speaker 1: forst Super Bowl ty Law gets a pick six, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then give Brady credit for Super Bowl fifty two

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Speaker 1: where the defense cannot stop a nosebleed, but Brady goes

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Speaker 1: berserker mode and makes it close right down to the end.

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Speaker 1: So it just all fed into each other, and the

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Speaker 1: defense especially, I feel like they just everybody wants to

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Speaker 1: forget about some of the necessary stops that they had

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Speaker 1: and show Super Bowls and takeaways and you know, big

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Speaker 1: plays Mike Rabel force and fumbles and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I would say one of the underrated things. You know,

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Speaker 2: you always think about your team, but I think when

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Speaker 2: you play smart football, you know the kind of football

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Speaker 2: that Brad Vrabel's talking about taking, you know, advantage of

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Speaker 2: bad football when you're a smart football team and the

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Speaker 2: other team knows you're probably not going to make that

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Speaker 2: big mistake. It puts pressure on them. And I think

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Speaker 2: the Patriots and Belichick put pressure on other teams and

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Speaker 2: force them into mistakes in those big games, and I

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01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: think that helps you win. So you know, it's playing

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Speaker 2: good sound football, whether it's offense or defense. Puts pressure

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Speaker 2: on the other team. And I think that was a

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Speaker 2: big part of winning a lot of those games too.

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Speaker 1: Which is where other team making mistakes, which I hope

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Speaker 1: that the Patriots and Drake may can get to that

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Speaker 1: point now where I mean again one of my key

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Speaker 1: things for the season is Drake Killer. That's the question.

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Speaker 1: Can you execute a couple and a game drives where

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Speaker 1: games on the line, and then you start to put

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Speaker 1: that concern in other team's heads of like, look, we

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01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: got the Patriots on the ropes right now, but they

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Speaker 1: got a guy over there who is going to make

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Speaker 1: a push at the end. And there are a handful

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Speaker 1: of teams burrow in Kansas City and you know, probably

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Speaker 1: afhilly at this point that you know, teams are we

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Speaker 1: got to put this game away. We can't just let it.

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Speaker 2: Think about think about your favorite game twenty eight to

1422
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 2: three The Falcons should have won that game, but knowing

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Speaker 2: that it was Brady on the other side of the

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Speaker 2: field and belichicked, I think forced them into making really

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Speaker 2: bad decisions when they had the ball, Like you didn't

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Speaker 2: have to throw the ball right right, you know, you

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Speaker 2: could have run the ball and won that game, and

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01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: they felt, no, we can't, we can't take the foot

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Speaker 2: off the gas, and forced them into mistakes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, another great example of you know, defense making

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Speaker 1: that play. I mean, there's like a series of plays

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Speaker 1: after a huge catch by Julio Jones on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: they kick the field goal. It's over right, you know,

1434
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Speaker 1: sack holding penalty. I mean, like you know those things

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Speaker 1: were that game was hanging by a thread. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: and Game of Inches and so it's yeah, just a

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Speaker 1: great example, every single one of those games. It took

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Speaker 1: a lot of different people to feed in to be

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Speaker 1: a dynasty.

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Speaker 5: Joined by eight time Entertainer of the Year Kenny Chesney

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Speaker 5: at your home away from home here at Gellette Stadium

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Speaker 5: is really your home away from home?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is for our Patriots.

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Speaker 5: Pregame show presented by Duncan, fueled by Duncan. Thanks for

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Speaker 5: joining us, Kenny.

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Speaker 2: Man, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 15: It's an honor to be here.

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Speaker 5: Well, the end of the tour means Foxborough and Jellette Stadium.

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Speaker 5: How are the fans of New England so fortunate enough

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Speaker 5: to get the tour finale for all these years?

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Speaker 15: Well, there was a couple of years when we first

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Speaker 15: started playing here that it wasn't the end of the tour.

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Speaker 15: There was like three years I think where we played

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Speaker 15: earlier on in July, but there was one summer and

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Speaker 15: if you ask anybody that plays sports. They'll tell you

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Speaker 15: they're a little superstitious, you know, if they have a

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Speaker 15: great game, you know, they do the same routine or whatever.

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Speaker 15: So that particular year, we opened at Raymond James Stadium

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Speaker 15: in Tampa and we closed in Foxboro, and it was

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Speaker 15: the most magical tour of my life, right And I

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Speaker 15: told everybody, I said, we're doing it just like that

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Speaker 15: every year, and we have ever since. We've opened in

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Speaker 15: Tampa and closed in Foxborough now in the middle changes.

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Speaker 15: But we love it that way, you know, and it

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Speaker 15: has become just a huge part of our life or

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Speaker 15: part of my touring family's life. And we know that

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Speaker 15: when we get to Foxborough that we've had a long,

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Speaker 15: wonderful summer.

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Speaker 2: But it's almost like we hit a different gear when

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Speaker 2: we get here.

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Speaker 15: You know. It's it's it's it's beautiful, and we don't

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Speaker 15: take it for granted. And it's just a huge celebration

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Speaker 15: for me and my Rowed family. And I've got a

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Speaker 15: lot of friends obviously in New England, and over the

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 15: years have become really good friends with, you know a

1511
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 15: lot of people in the Patriots organization and become family

1512
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 15: with Robert and Jonathan.

1513
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 5: And I think you can see that as a fan,

1514
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 5: you know, with somebody who was here last night and

1515
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 5: in the pit, and at the end, the appreciation that

1516
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,919
Speaker 5: your family has, there's there's like a little bit of relief,

1517
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 5: like there's a little light at the.

1518
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: End of the tunnel. Because it's a grueling tour, it is.

1519
01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 5: But it's a happiness and the joy that everyone seemed

1520
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 5: to have towards the end.

1521
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 2: It really in the audience you can feel that.

1522
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 15: Well, it's I say it a lot. It's a lot

1523
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 15: like the last day of school, you know what I mean.

1524
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 15: Like you look forward to it and you're tired, and

1525
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 15: you want it. You want it in one sense, you

1526
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 15: want it to be over, but then again you don't

1527
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 15: want to let it go.

1528
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: And that's where we are.

1529
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 15: We're in this bitter sweet place, you know, walking through

1530
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 15: the hallways here at Gillette and getting on the buses.

1531
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 15: And look, we've been in rehearsals since February, you know,

1532
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 15: and been together since then. And uh, we've been on

1533
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 15: the road. We started in Tampa in the middle of April,

1534
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 15: and so here we are, you know, and and it's

1535
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 15: it's like anything else. It's it's you look at pictures

1536
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 15: from then it seems like forever ago, but in your

1537
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 15: soul it just seems like yesterday. And so it's it's bittersweet,

1538
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 15: you know, to let it go, but to be here

1539
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,839
Speaker 15: and to be back. Like you said in the beginning,

1540
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 15: you know, Foxborough has become in a lot of ways

1541
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 15: my second home, and and the Craft my second family

1542
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 15: in a way. So you know, it's just just just

1543
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 15: real special. It always is.

1544
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 5: Let's go back maybe fifteen years ago when No New

1545
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 5: England wasn't new to you. You were playing Sheds I'm

1546
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 5: old enough to remember, replaced by the name of Great Woods.

1547
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 5: Who knows what it's called this week or anything like that.

1548
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 5: What was the impetus or why did you think, Kenny,

1549
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 5: or how did the genesis come about? You know what,

1550
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 5: let's tackle stadium shows this is going to be a

1551
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 5: different barrier to break and I think we can break

1552
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 5: through and do that.

1553
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 15: Yeah, especially in this area. We played the Amphitheater outside

1554
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 15: of town in Mansfield and we played that a couple

1555
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 15: of years and you could just feel this energy bulling underneath,

1556
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 15: you know, we could just tell that there was something

1557
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 15: special happening in New England and everywhere we played No.

1558
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 15: Matter if it was in the Boston area, or or

1559
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 15: if it was in Vermont, or if it was in

1560
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 15: Maine or wherever it was just Crazy or Rhode Island.

1561
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 15: It was a really unique connection. And there was I

1562
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 15: think it was two thousand and four, we did two

1563
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 15: or three ninths at the Amphitheater down in Mansfield, and

1564
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 15: that's when we decided, you know, the next year we

1565
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 15: were going to try. We didn't know that we could

1566
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 15: pull it off, but we were going to try to

1567
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 15: do a couple of stadium shows. And that year, I

1568
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 15: believe in two thousand and five, we played Pittsburgh, we

1569
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 15: played DC, and we played Foxboro, and it was just

1570
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 15: I was stunned that we were able to to you know,

1571
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 15: to to do well. You know, we're not we didn't

1572
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 15: do what we're doing now, but I think we were

1573
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 15: really close to selling out the first time we ever

1574
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 15: played Foxborough, and it just became a tradition for us,

1575
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 15: you know. But it was a big leap of faith

1576
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 15: on my part and Robert's part. I mean, it was

1577
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 15: neither one of us obviously knew we were going to

1578
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 15: become this good of friends, or we knew that we

1579
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 15: were going to be able to sustain this love affair

1580
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 15: if you will, for you know, I think tonight, you know,

1581
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 15: this weekend will be our twenty second, twenty third, and

1582
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 15: twenty fourth shows.

1583
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

1584
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that you're now doing three can checkative shows

1585
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 5: at the same venue.

1586
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: That's yeah.

1587
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: I've never done that.

1588
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 15: I did that one time, never in a stadium, but

1589
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 15: we did it Red Rocks outside of Denver one year,

1590
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 15: and that's the This is the only time we've ever

1591
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 15: done two, and I've ever done three in a football stadium.

1592
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 5: You mentioned some of the moments, Kenny, and You've been

1593
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 5: involved with the Crafts in a lot of special moments

1594
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 5: outside of the music, which is unbelievable its own sense.

1595
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 5: His birthday parties, acoustics show, the night before the Super

1596
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 5: Bowl in Arizona, in his suite down twenty eight to three?

1597
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 5: Who's he hugging on the comeback? Ring ceremonies, unbelievable things.

1598
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite? Well, look, the ring ceremony

1599
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: was right up there.

1600
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 8: You know, I.

1601
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 15: Wasn't expecting that, you know, but all of it, you

1602
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 15: know at all, when you think about all those things,

1603
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 15: it's just, you know, Robert and I've been in each

1604
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 15: other's lives and good times and bad times, and that's

1605
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 15: what family is, you know, and that's what makes it

1606
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 15: so special. And it's yes, we do business together, but

1607
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 15: on aside from that, I mean, I feel like that

1608
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 15: our friendship is on a completely different level than that now.

1609
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: But if I have a.

1610
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 15: Favorite, and they would be the ring ceremony for sure.

1611
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 15: But being at the Super Bowl down twenty eight to three,

1612
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 15: and I kept telling Robert and Jonathan they were upset

1613
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 15: at halftime, that was a tough halftime to be in

1614
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 15: the suite, you know what I mean exactly, so because

1615
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 15: they wear their feelings. I mean, they care about this stuff,

1616
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 15: you know. Obviously, if I kept telling them just wait,

1617
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 15: just wait, just wait, and it's little by little, you know,

1618
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 15: they just kept coming back. And I'm telling you, that

1619
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 15: was a very That's got to be one of my

1620
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 15: most favorite moments ever. Was that night they came back.

1621
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 5: It's an interesting snapshot into society. Here's a kid from Tennessee, yeah,

1622
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,520
Speaker 5: and is now working on a twenty plus year relationship

1623
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 5: with a billionaire football owners. Why do you think that

1624
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 5: that relationship is endured, Kenny, because it's authentic, Honestly, We're

1625
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 5: not friends because of money.

1626
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 15: We're not friends. We're friends because we love sports, and

1627
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 15: we're friends because we love music.

1628
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: And now great moments in history.

1629
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: We're we're chomping at the bit getting ready for the season.

1630
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: Is it champing or chomping at the bit?

1631
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: Eric, chumping? That's a good question, Fred, I've always heard

1632
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: as chomping, but it's spelled champing, So I don't know.

1633
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: I really don't know which one is accurate. I think

1634
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: I did not know that.

1635
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 14: Is it butt naked or buck naked?

1636
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: I've always it's a good one. I think I'm looking

1637
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: at you with a light stare because that's a great one.

1638
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: I think it's bottled me. Isn't it naked? Isn't it buck?

1639
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 15: So?

1640
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: Who's a buck naked?

1641
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1642
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: A dear is naked, and you're like a buck naked?

1643
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 10: Make more sense?

1644
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: It was this is this is a whole topic.

1645
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: I have it right now there.

1646
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: This is a whole topic on Miriam Webster dot com. Uh.

1647
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: While both buck naked and butt naked are used to

1648
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: describe someone who is fully nude, buck naked is the

1649
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: older of the pair. Buck naked naked?

1650
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: But what about the champion and the chopping.

1651
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: That's another great moment.

1652
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered. It's Deuce, Alex,

1653
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: Fred Matt and the booth for an off season edition

1654
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: here Thursday at Gillette Stadium. Getting a lot of calls,

1655
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: a lot of emails, thank you for listening. Even though

1656
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: we're in the dog days of the NFL. Uh, they're

1657
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: still listening to Patriot's Unfiltered. Tell you what doesn't matter

1658
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: winter loose our ratings stay up there.

1659
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: That reminded me Fred. We had a little email back

1660
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: and forth about flesh it out and flesh it out.

1661
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that's sending to my phone to search

1662
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: and I actually that easy.

1663
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: You know, when you flush something out, you put meat

1664
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: to the bones, you give it substance. When you flush

1665
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: it out, you get rid of it. So it's two

1666
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 2: completely different things.

1667
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: I had to look at it, though. I was a

1668
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: little bit I'm a little bit a little bit of

1669
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: pushback on that because it was, like I said, like

1670
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: I had an idea for a while that I finally

1671
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: flushed out correct usage and that was what it was.

1672
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

1673
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,839
Speaker 4: That's another one that always confused me, is like it'll

1674
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 4: tide me over. I always said it was timey over,

1675
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 4: like I'll have a little snack to Timey over.

1676
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: I've always been yes, yes, yeah, nuance of language. We

1677
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: do all right.

1678
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: Eight five five PATS five hundred is the hotline. But

1679
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: before I get to that, I just want to remind

1680
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: people to get your Bront workwear because it's based right

1681
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 2: here in New England. So you know you like the

1682
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. No matter where you live, well, you

1683
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Speaker 2: should buy stuff that made right here. Bront Workwear certainly is.

1684
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: They make work boots and apparel that are built for

1685
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1686
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Speaker 2: after the real workers in the trades that helped design it.

1687
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: You can even try brunt out on the job and

1688
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: if it doesn't blow you away, then just send it back.

1689
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: You can also save ten dollars on your first order

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:27,200
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Speaker 2: code p A T S. So get your Bront work

1692
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Speaker 2: where Now.

1693
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: There you go.

1694
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's going on out there? There's like a

1695
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: lot of laughing and not no no no no no

1696
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: no no like that. I'm just I'm just wondering what

1697
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm missing.

1698
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a good time going on.

1699
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: Pretty good. Is just like say a marine's name and

1700
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: then he just was held up a knife right.

1701
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: No, no, just people having a good time.

1702
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: I just want to know what's going on? Game?

1703
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: So why I take six two six? Oh? No, wonder

1704
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 2: it was so fast quick?

1705
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: Did anybody go to the messy game last night?

1706
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 4: No?

1707
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no, had a couple Yeah.

1708
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: Well id you worked a couple of goals?

1709
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 3: I went last year.

1710
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: Carlos Heel score. Yeah, he's really good.

1711
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: I like Carlos Heel. He's he's really really good. I

1712
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: don't I don't think people like outside of REVS fan

1713
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 2: understand how good he is. He's tell the people, let's

1714
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: see who is this? This is justin. My question is

1715
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 2: how much of a concern, if any, is there for

1716
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 2: McDaniels not calling enough plays to feed Diggs. With his

1717
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: past history in Buffalo about wanting more targets and McDaniel's

1718
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: having a stigma than on any given game anyone can

1719
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: produce below average numbers, do you have any concern that

1720
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: there will be tension there? That's justin from Chicago. We'll

1721
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: talk about that in a second. But he says also,

1722
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 2: so I appreciate the off cities and topics to get

1723
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: me through the workdays. So to help you out, would

1724
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: you rather always have to sing instead of speak or dance.

1725
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: Everywhere you walk sing? I'd take the opportunity to sing

1726
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: all the time.

1727
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: So instead of speaking, everything you say is a song,

1728
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: or you dance everywhere you walk.

1729
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 1: I could do tough.

1730
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 3: I could do either.

1731
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'd rather do the dancing. About both,

1732
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 2: I think it was getting annoying to everyone around.

1733
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: Annoying.

1734
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: It's like, goes, can he just say it? Does he

1735
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 2: have to sing it?

1736
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: In response to the craft that I just you know,

1737
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: point out DeVante Adams had fifteen hundred yards and fourteen

1738
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns under Josh, so you know he's a number one

1739
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 1: receiver who was very productive with him. So I get

1740
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: the concern, though, you want to keep stuff happy and

1741
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, but again when him talking about getting open,

1742
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: getting my other teammates open and being part of the system,

1743
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just you know, the end, He's like,

1744
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: I can get open when on YouTube, but it's you know,

1745
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: well my teammates as well. That's thats the stuff like,

1746
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 1: but hey, welcome to diva receiver. We got to make sure.

1747
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: Would you rather be trapped in a horror movie or

1748
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 2: a zombie apocalypse? Zombie apocalypse, You'd rather be trapped in

1749
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 2: a zombie horror movie.

1750
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,440
Speaker 3: Those people in horror movies are so stupid.

1751
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, he'd be smart.

1752
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 4: He'd be like, I'd be way smarter than them, because

1753
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 4: I'm way smarter than them when I'm watching the movie.

1754
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: No, the biggest thing that concerns me about a zombie

1755
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: apocalypse is I wear contacts, and I'm like, that's that's

1756
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: gonna get dicey pretty quick. If I can't get contact

1757
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: lens solution.

1758
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 3: Well, maybe.

1759
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 4: Maybe they would want Like did you see World War

1760
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 4: Z with Brad Pitt and the zombies skip over people

1761
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 4: who are ill, but they're ill or have some ailment,

1762
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 4: so they're like, we don't need you and our army

1763
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 4: of zombies.

1764
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 1: I think our culture is generally obsessed with like, wouldn't

1765
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: it be cool if I just was like living off

1766
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: a Kansas soup with my gun in my basement? Like

1767
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 1: there's a many people who just like have that fantasy.

1768
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: And if it ever did happen, they poop their pants.

1769
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: Like the whole like prepper subculture.

1770
01:20:57,439 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 3: Of youday preppers.

1771
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, got all kinds survivalists, survivalists, and they're just waiting

1772
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: for that. It'll be great when we can finally just

1773
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 1: live in the woods and have to hunt animals, and

1774
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: really would be great. I thought that we ever see

1775
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: the movie The Road, which was a book by by

1776
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,799
Speaker 1: Cornick McCarthy. Yeah, I forget perdition.

1777
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: The Road is just like a father and a son

1778
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: for me, halfway up his driveway, his house is on

1779
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 2: a hill. He just put in this like iron swing gate,

1780
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: Like why, like.

1781
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 3: This is my thing? Does he have a fence in

1782
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 3: his yard?

1783
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 4: That's it's my pet peeve When people put in these

1784
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 4: huge driveway gates but they don't have a complete fence,

1785
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 4: It's like what are you keeping out?

1786
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like what's going on up there that you

1787
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 2: don't want cars driving up?

1788
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: You know? It's got to be status no no.

1789
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: But it's not even like a good you know, like

1790
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 2: a wrought iron, a nice fence, gargoyles. It's just like

1791
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: a something you'd see in a farm. It's just a

1792
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 2: metal thing that swings in locks. Halfway up his driveway.

1793
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't even look nice, So like it's it's obviously

1794
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: there to keep people from getting close to the house. Yeah,

1795
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 2: so why like, what are you doing making meth in

1796
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: your basement or something? You know?

1797
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: Apocalypse He wants to keep the curses are gonna run

1798
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: and they're gonna come here, buddy.

1799
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, all right, hotline, Nelson's in LA.

1800
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: What's up?

1801
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: Nelson?

1802
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 9: Up?

1803
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: He was in La. Now he's gone.

1804
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

1805
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: Emory's in Virginia. Hey, Emory, Emory.

1806
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: Wow?

1807
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: Oh wow? Two calls to uh okay.

1808
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: I thought I was calling falgaram Mass.

1809
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: Curtis and Saint Louis writes in says there's been a

1810
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 2: lot of talk recently on what would justify a successful season,

1811
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: whether it be wins or making the playoffs. A successful

1812
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, in my eyes, comes down to two things.

1813
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: Does May take the next big lead, and, like Rabel said,

1814
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: playing competent football, not only taking advantage of bad football,

1815
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: but also not making those bad football plays. That being said,

1816
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: I have a couple questions. One, in your eyes, what

1817
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: does May need to do this season to show he's

1818
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 2: a franchise caliber quarterback?

1819
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: Cut down turnovers and win games when they're closed at.

1820
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: These ends, I you took the words out in my

1821
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 2: mouth on crunch time. What do you got? What do

1822
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: you got?

1823
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: I think a better question might be, or maybe a

1824
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: more interesting question is, like is there a successful season

1825
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: for Mike Frable that doesn't involve Drake May having a

1826
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 1: successful So, like, if Drake May is not good, like

1827
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: if he's just I mean, it's hard to say he's bad,

1828
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: but if he's just okay and kind of up and down,

1829
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: is there a way I don't see it? Well, Like,

1830
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: I think it's so much is tied to the quarterback.

1831
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 4: If the operation around him, if everyone really knows what

1832
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 4: they're doing, and the defense is really fine considering.

1833
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: That surgeons May wasn't his pick. I mean, if Drake

1834
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: May doesn't have a good season, but everything else is

1835
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: where O line is playing well, you.

1836
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 1: Know, then like.

1837
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,919
Speaker 2: And you're like to me, you know, that's a nightmare

1838
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 2: for all a lot of us because now it's like

1839
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 2: we got everything else going now we're still looking for

1840
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 2: a quarterback. I can't see that being you know.

1841
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that goes back to us being in fantasyland

1842
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: right now, where you're like, Drake May still might be

1843
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: the best quarterback of all time. We don't know, you know, like,

1844
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: but once you start getting reality, do you lose that

1845
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: belief of that he might be the guy? And it's

1846
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: just that's the worst place to be I think as

1847
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: a fan base is to not believe that your quarterback

1848
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: could be the guy. I think there are a lot

1849
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: of fans out there that are kind of fooling themselves

1850
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit.

1851
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 2: The second question he has is where are you with

1852
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 2: the signing dilemma going on with basically all of the

1853
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 2: second round picks. Ultimately, do you think the players will

1854
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: get fully guaranteed contracts? And should the Patriots get ahead

1855
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 2: of this thing and just sign Henderson to a fully

1856
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: guaranteed contract so there are no distractions going to training? Kip,

1857
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: is that the whole up?

1858
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 4: I think the Texans and another team kind of not

1859
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 4: set that precedent, but did it with their guys. So

1860
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 4: now the agents of these second rounders are just trying

1861
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 4: to use that as leverage.

1862
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 3: That's to my understanding.

1863
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: I thought they were slotted.

1864
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't put much time to

1865
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: thought into like this. My money not pro to just

1866
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 1: like work out with the contract signing in the past

1867
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: before the slotting stuff. It was a little bit more

1868
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: tenuous when the signings weren't happening, But I know that,

1869
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: like you said, there are some different deal points now

1870
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: that are becoming precedent that are complicating some of these decisions.

1871
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: But ultimately I'm not really too concerned. I think that

1872
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: they'll everything will be figured out by training camp.

1873
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: Jake and Bedford writes in What's Up Crew? Did you

1874
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: catch Joe Mizzula On Edelman's podcast.

1875
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: Not Yet a little Bit? Did you? Community?

1876
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,879
Speaker 2: He mentioned in one of his old chats with Belichick

1877
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 2: that Bill would bring in special operatives before the season

1878
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 2: to speak to the team. Edelman said he would learn

1879
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 2: cool tricks during these sessions, just as tactical hand maneuvers.

1880
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: Do you think Vrabel will bring in any guests like this.

1881
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of coaches do that. Yeah, I

1882
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 2: know why Bill's brought in like Navy seals and things

1883
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 2: like that.

1884
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it's always part of the lots of

1885
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 1: stuff I love, like the coaching, pulling out going to

1886
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: this movie or building activities, those kind of things. Try

1887
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,560
Speaker 1: to get guys speakers on this.

1888
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 4: I think Bill brought in Ryan Holiday too, the author

1889
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 4: he wrote a lot of books on just like the Stoics,

1890
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 4: and I.

1891
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Think he helped Bill.

1892
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 4: Was it Robert Green who wrote forty eight Laws of Power?

1893
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 4: So Ryan Holiday was his like researcher intern or whatever,

1894
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 4: and he brought him.

1895
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: In, which, by the way, quick recommendation, there's a documentary

1896
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: out there right now about American apparel and like excellent

1897
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: guy who was way into the forty eight Laws of

1898
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: Power and ran that whole business by that and basically

1899
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 1: terrorized everyone who worked for him.

1900
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: PS Bazula also let slip that some Patriots players opted

1901
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 2: into try out getting waterboarded. I was like, Yeah, which

1902
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: PU member do you think would be tough enough for that?

1903
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: I think my guy Paul would fare the best.

1904
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: That's tough man. Who do you think would be best

1905
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: equipped to deal with drowning? Yeah?

1906
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 2: And PPS, when can we stop taking calls from Todd?

1907
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: Can we try waterboarding him?

1908
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: My god will be waterboarded? That is interesting though, That's

1909
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: like guys were signing up to see what that was like.

1910
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is that one.

1911
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: Who wants to be boarded? Coach?

1912
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 11: Just nothing?

1913
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 2: Have you done it? Really?

1914
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 15: All?

1915
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: Right?

1916
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 3: I volunteer Matt then? I think Matt would be most.

1917
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: Like, so basically you have to just like understand that, Yeah,

1918
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have water up my nose, and don't freak out.

1919
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: You don't freak out. Yeah it might feel weird, but

1920
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 2: don't freak out in an.

1921
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 7: Actual waterboarding torture situation to keep them mentalities crazy.

1922
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 1: But if you do it with your friends, you're.

1923
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 3: With your friends friends, Matt, My friends aren't professionals.

1924
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: So we were just water boardering and Shohnny just died.

1925
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: So what is it like they put your side down

1926
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: with a wet towel or.

1927
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 3: Your face dump of five gallons?

1928
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do it.

1929
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: You're a little bit slanted back though, right. Your head's

1930
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 2: a little bit lower than your feet, Is that right

1931
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 2: or not?

1932
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: That's probably.

1933
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: Okay. On a picnic table, if you rolls over, you

1934
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: got into the mashed potatoes.

1935
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: This is where we eat. This is where we get waterboarded.

1936
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: Potato salads over here, waterboards over here.

1937
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 3: You think we'd get flagged on YouTube if we tried

1938
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 3: to do.

1939
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: That waterboarding each other in the studio, it would be

1940
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 2: a mess.

1941
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Speaker 8: I'll do it.

1942
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Speaker 2: I'll try it, sure, allright.

1943
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Speaker 1: Evan, He'll be like, be like, I want to get

1944
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: now if.

1945
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: You waterboarded, Paul would diet pepsi. He would just take

1946
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 2: it in. It would be like, yeah, like heaven, are

1947
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 2: going to put it up my nose, put it up

1948
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: my ass, it doesn't matter, it's diet pepsi. I'll take

1949
01:28:59,120 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: it any whole I can get.

1950
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the first time I saw Paul snort diapepsy, it

1951
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: was a little disconcerted.

1952
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird.

1953
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: That's how he likes it.

1954
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, he's an ivy at home. He has

1955
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 2: he has the clicker in one hand. He's got the ivy.

1956
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: He dehydrates it into little tablets. Snort, crush up.

1957
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kidding. Oh boy. Justin writes, and even if

1958
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: it's the dog days of the NFL Patriots, Unfiltered is

1959
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 2: by far and away the best sports podcast and just

1960
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,559
Speaker 2: this best sports media in general. Wow, that's really nice.

1961
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Speaker 1: Thanks Justin.

1962
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Speaker 2: Your T shirts on the way, have we created new

1963
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: T shirts yet? What's going on with T shirts?

1964
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 14: I've been setting out found a box upstairs, So I've

1965
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 14: been setting about people who.

1966
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 2: Oh, he found a box, But I want to make

1967
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: new ones that are higher quality.

1968
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Speaker 1: I don't know where we're at with that.

1969
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Speaker 2: That's about okay, so we'll send Matisa an email just

1970
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: say Fred said, we want to make.

1971
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Speaker 1: More T shirts, probably about six.

1972
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 2: Everyone has a great array of opinions and personalities. All

1973
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 2: of you are unique and fun to listen to. I'm

1974
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 2: always looking forward to every Tuesday and Thursday because I

1975
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 2: know the PU crew is going to drop another great episode.

1976
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 2: Oh that's really.

1977
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Speaker 1: Nice, very nice. I really appreciate it.

1978
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 2: And of course for those of you who are new

1979
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: to the show during the season it's Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

1980
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate people thanking us, though, I mean, it

1981
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: feels a little strange at times because I love what

1982
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: I do and I love talking Patriots football and nonsense

1983
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: is a probably my favorite thing, and it's always stranger

1984
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: and people are like, thank you so much for you do.

1985
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, I thank you, Like I love what I do,

1986
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: so it's great that people like joy.

1987
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Speaker 2: I had the AC guy, like I said, last week

1988
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Speaker 2: or two weeks ago, and he was when he was done,

1989
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, just so you know, I listen

1990
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Speaker 2: all the time. You guys do great and like, you know,

1991
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 2: I'm genuinely like, really, wow, thanks, you know that'll never

1992
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: like become new to me, I mean become old to me.

1993
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's cool. Appreciate it. I'm glad people

1994
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Speaker 1: take enjoyment from it, because yeah, enjoyable to produce.

1995
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Speaker 2: Jeff and Canada, do we know anything about vrabel stance

1996
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 2: on starting? People are playing starters in the preseason some teams.

1997
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 2: It's not hard at all in the past where you

1998
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 2: used to at least a few quarters of starters. What

1999
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:09,719
Speaker 2: are your thoughts?

2000
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Speaker 1: That's a great question. Actually, that that makes me want

2001
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: to go look at Tennessee and how I handled it there.

2002
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: I still think ever since we've gone back to three

2003
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,799
Speaker 1: preseason games, there isn't an established it's ad dress rehearsal.

2004
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: Remember that, like the therapy, it's a dress rehearsal. And

2005
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,839
Speaker 1: then the fourth game was always a trash like throwaway,

2006
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: just the guy. Maybe one or two guys might have

2007
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: a chance to make the team off of that. But

2008
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: there's no real established a neadance to the preseason games.

2009
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: Now it's it's right, what do you want to do?

2010
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: What do you need to work on?

2011
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 2: It's yeah, what's the state of your team? Are you're

2012
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 2: breaking in a new quarterback? How young? How old is

2013
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 2: your team? Coaching staff. There's so many variables that change

2014
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 2: it when you only have three, and we know eventually

2015
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: it's only going to be two. So then these joint practices,

2016
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 2: the importance of joint practice, are going to really.

2017
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: Ratchet up good barometer. The joint practices. Yeah, you watch,

2018
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,639
Speaker 1: You could watch training camp for just the Patriots practice

2019
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: all summer. You come out of it. I think that

2020
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty. I have no idea, no idea what

2021
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 1: this team is. But with joint practices, I think you

2022
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: get a little bit of the sense.

2023
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 2: Emory's back on the line in Virginia. What's up, Emory Emory? Okay,

2024
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 2: this is oh for two? Okay, Well that's that's poor

2025
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 2: to me. Sean's and Vancouver. Hey Sean, Hi, Fred, Mike,

2026
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Speaker 2: Hey Sean, Alex.

2027
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Speaker 11: Great to hear you all. I love this show. I

2028
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 11: agree with everyone who wrote in. I just have one

2029
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 11: question about that though. Is there room for all five

2030
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 11: of you in the studio, because I, you know, I

2031
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 11: don't really see that happening. There's always like someone not there.

2032
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 2: No, it's not all No, there's there's five spaces. But

2033
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 2: it's summer. People take time off.

2034
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 11: Oh no, no, yeah, yea. But during the regular season.

2035
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Speaker 11: Alex would love to see it come in more.

2036
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 3: I think it's set up. It depends what's set up.

2037
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: We have have five with the desk, we can do

2038
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 2: five with the seats is four. I think we're going

2039
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 2: to stick with the desk for now. Yeah, we've been

2040
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,759
Speaker 2: bringing play yeah right, yeah.

2041
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Speaker 3: I'll come in more during the season.

2042
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Speaker 11: For you, Sean, thank you, I appreciate you. I've been

2043
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 11: thinking about this quite a bit, people predicting games for

2044
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 11: the season, and I came across a website today that

2045
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Speaker 11: really had me impressed with the way they did it.

2046
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Speaker 11: It's called Past Godmother, and they broke down the schedule

2047
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Speaker 11: in terms of path uh and and the different ways

2048
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 11: they broke it down is one group is have to win,

2049
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 11: so it's like six games they consider have to win

2050
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 11: games the ones that they feel really good about. Next

2051
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 11: group is should win but won't be easy. Third group

2052
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 11: is should lose but not surprise, the paths win, and

2053
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 11: the last one with four games is already penciled in.

2054
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 11: There's a low need a fluke to win that one.

2055
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 11: And that's I think it was really good way to

2056
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:10,520
Speaker 11: look at it, because there's ways to set up expectations

2057
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 11: in terms of the schedule and how you're going to

2058
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 11: feel about each game, and if you win one of

2059
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 11: these already pencil and loss, like you can have a

2060
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 11: big celebration like, Wow, we beat the Ravens. It's amazing.

2061
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 11: So I'll leave you with that.

2062
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 2: Well, did you do it with the Patriots?

2063
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 1: How did I pulled the schedule up right here? Right now?

2064
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2065
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know this website it's it's all about the Patriots.

2066
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 2: Did you do it? What did we come out as?

2067
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 15: No?

2068
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 11: I agree completely with them, like the way they have

2069
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 11: it in terms of like, no.

2070
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 2: I understand, I understand how they divvt it up, but

2071
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 2: what did they come up with as the record for

2072
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: the Patriots?

2073
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 11: Well, they don't even have an actual record. They say

2074
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 11: this is a road map to ten wins for a

2075
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 11: playoff berth, So they don't even give their fact that

2076
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 11: because this is what we think will happen. This is

2077
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 11: like this is but we break it down as.

2078
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 10: A way to get it.

2079
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 11: And I agree with that. Like I can't predict the future.

2080
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2081
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 11: There's so many things are gonna happen, like injuries and

2082
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 11: with the way things go for other teams, But just

2083
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 11: a way to think about it beforehand. This is a

2084
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 11: good way to set your expectations.

2085
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thanks Sean. I expect to win every game.

2086
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't know about you guys, but I don't win

2087
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 2: every game thinking we're gonna win.

2088
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean at Cincinnati, not throwing you know, throwing

2089
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:29,839
Speaker 1: last year's result out of there. At Baltimore and at Buffalo,

2090
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: like those three seem like those are gonna be tough.

2091
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:32,920
Speaker 1: They's gonna be tough to get wins on the road

2092
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: against those teams. Us year's Patriots team did it, so

2093
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: it's not imposible.

2094
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 2: If you're gonna win ten games, you're probably gonna have

2095
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 2: to win a couple of games you're not supposed to.

2096
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean the rest of them are all just feel

2097
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 1: like wars. I mean that's how I kind of It's

2098
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: like those three games probably tough to win. The other

2099
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 1: fourteen flip of a coin battle, you know, knowing nothing

2100
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 1: about these teams, but the Raiders, I mean, at Miami,

2101
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: they've got some questions this year. Pittsburgh's remade talent's no question.

2102
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 1: But Carolina, Atlanta, Cleveland, I mean, these are all teams

2103
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: that are in the Patriots seem genre of trying to

2104
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 1: get on the upswing. So this is where you prove it.

2105
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: You beat the other bad teams, and then you get

2106
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: that second or first place schedule and then you start

2107
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 1: to play the good teams and you get back into

2108
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: that mix of But this is you know, a little

2109
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 1: bit of like a relegation year, you know, or you

2110
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: gotta play the fourth play schedule, so you gotta you

2111
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 1: gotta win a lot of games this year. Take advantage

2112
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 1: of it.

2113
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 2: Damon's in Maryland? What's up? Damon again?

2114
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 4: Going?

2115
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,759
Speaker 10: So two quick questions.

2116
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 9: My first question is do you remember your first sports

2117
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 9: heartbreak as a fan?

2118
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 16: I think of the two thousand and five SIS in

2119
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 16: Divisional against the Broncos.

2120
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh great game, great game, great call.

2121
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 16: It was on my birthday and just devastated, not want

2122
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 16: to go to school at all.

2123
01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 9: My dad is a Ravens fan and he still made me.

2124
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2125
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 9: And then my my.

2126
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 16: Next question is for a training camp, I will admit

2127
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,720
Speaker 16: I nerd out just as much of out seeing like

2128
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 16: the Pats social media staff and you guys there as

2129
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,560
Speaker 16: I do with the players. Is there gonna be a

2130
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 16: bluth or of chances to like to chat with you guys?

2131
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 16: Get autographs, take pictures of that nature.

2132
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: During camp training camp.

2133
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, possibly, yeah, yeah, I'm always down there.

2134
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 2: We'll be around.

2135
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: Just give me a shout out. Sometimes I go down

2136
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 1: there with T shirts. So if you see me walking around,

2137
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: just yellow deuce. I just want to make sure I

2138
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: get int the p U fans though, because like, once

2139
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 1: people see you have some swag, they don't care.

2140
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,719
Speaker 2: That, they don't care. What want to be dirty socks.

2141
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: It's free, I'll take it. We'll be around, so you know,

2142
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 2: always good idea email us before you come and so

2143
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 2: we know you're around.

2144
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, yep say. I was just gonna say,

2145
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: response to your question of losses, that five Denver game

2146
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: is a great one. Now we'll like spurred my whole

2147
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: Patriots obsessions. Well, oh no, there's a clock on this.

2148
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 2: My first sports heartbreak was Muhammed Eli losing to Joe

2149
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 2: Fray really in their first bout. So you know, you

2150
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 2: couldn't watch it on TV back then because they had

2151
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 2: what they call close circuit TV, and you know you

2152
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 2: couldn't watch it. But on the radio there was the

2153
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 2: station that after every round, the guy was giving his

2154
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 2: synopsis and I remember like just you know, glued to

2155
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 2: the radio listening to this and uh and it was late.

2156
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 2: It's late because I think the I forget where the

2157
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: fight was, but it was, you know, late at night,

2158
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: and it looked like Ali was gonna win just from

2159
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 2: this guy's synopsis. And then you know, he you know,

2160
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: Fraser knocked him down. I think he broke his jaw,

2161
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 2: you know, so you never know, and then Fraser got

2162
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: the decision.

2163
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 1: I was just devastated.

2164
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 2: I was just.

2165
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 1: Devastat what an interesting way to watch a sporting or

2166
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: listening listening to it, And what would he be doing

2167
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: while the fight was going on.

2168
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 2: You couldn't, he couldn't. So they'd go back to regular

2169
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 2: program and then after the round he would give his

2170
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 2: his scenomais and I was just you know, every word

2171
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 2: he said I was glued to. And then Ali lost

2172
01:38:57,920 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 2: and I was just devastated.

2173
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: The Ruins losses in the Stanley Cup finals, I think

2174
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 1: it was eighty eight ninety those those really those really

2175
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: hurt me. Remember the Patriots losing in the in the

2176
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,759
Speaker 1: playoffs to the Browns. That that one I clearly remember

2177
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: being being disappointed at. But yeah, that Denver game, I'm

2178
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: right with them. That one, Like, I don't think I

2179
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: would be sitting here right now without that Denver loss,

2180
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: because that was like, that's just what spurred me to

2181
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: action of like, there's a limited amount of time with

2182
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady. How many can they get? And what

2183
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: does this defensive genius thing mean? And you know, it

2184
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: just opened up a whole book that I wanted to read.

2185
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Essentially, Yeah, I mean, obviously seven is the origin. That's

2186
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 2: the worst.

2187
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 4: I still remember the aim away message I wrote after

2188
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 4: that game.

2189
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: But prior to that, the eighty six Mets loss, I mean,

2190
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 2: Red Sox loss to the Mets in the World Series

2191
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:50,400
Speaker 2: was just ridiculously bad. You know, they could have they

2192
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: should have won it in the sixth game, and when

2193
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 2: they didn't, I did a I made a sign and

2194
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 2: I put it out on commab. I said, I said,

2195
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 2: I forget what it was, but if there's justice, if

2196
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,600
Speaker 2: there's justice on earth, in a god in heaven, the

2197
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:07,200
Speaker 2: Red Sox will win the series in seven. So I

2198
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 2: put that sign out in commab. I was so convinced,

2199
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 2: all right, they're gonna win this thing and they didn't

2200
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 2: win it. I was so mad.

2201
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: Did you hear people like conquent your sign and like

2202
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 1: support the stuf.

2203
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: Well, I just left it there. I didn't.

2204
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: I didn't stand, I didn't forget it walk away. I

2205
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: didn't stan sending a message to the fans, right, I

2206
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 1: know it'll be received. I don't need to right sit

2207
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: around and watch it.

2208
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 2: But just that was bad. You know, I was at

2209
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos fan, so I had a lot of heartbreak

2210
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 2: in those Super Bowls.

2211
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: I mean O seven to twenty fourteen. I mean, I

2212
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: guess I say two thousand and four to twenty fourteen.

2213
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: That's ten years of every one of those last Patriot losses.

2214
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Was was devastating and heartbreaking, and you know in different ways.

2215
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:53,759
Speaker 2: The eighty five NBA Playoffs when Magic hit that little

2216
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 2: hook over the middle to end the game, that was

2217
01:40:57,800 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: that that killed me. That was a tough one.

2218
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2219
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 2: So better to have been there and lost than never

2220
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 2: to have been there at all.

2221
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 1: Right, see, I'm Paul here to chime in about Northeastern laws.

2222
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, I mean, his his thing started when

2223
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 2: he couldn't get into Northeastern, right, he had no It's

2224
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 2: not that he couldn't get in, but like bu was

2225
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: the only one that would give him money or something

2226
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 2: like that for to play baseball, so he chose to

2227
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:28,799
Speaker 2: be regrets it to this day. Eric regrets not getting

2228
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 2: into Brown.

2229
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 1: That's that that had to hit.

2230
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe I got into any school, so I

2231
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:34,480
Speaker 2: didn't care.

2232
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 3: It's happy to be there.

2233
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeffson, California. What's up?

2234
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 10: Jeff Hey, how are you doing? But you have to

2235
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 10: take my call. So I've been a fan of the

2236
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 10: Patriots since the mid seventies since can you hear me?

2237
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 2: Yes, you've been a fan of the Patriots since the

2238
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 2: mid seventies.

2239
01:41:55,840 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, Steve Grogan my favorite player, and Jim it's my

2240
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 10: favorite number is fourteen. Cool, and we've had so many

2241
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 10: bad years back then. But yes, I just could not

2242
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 10: go through the McPherson year.

2243
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: Okay as a.

2244
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 10: Coach, but last year was the worst. I thought Mayo

2245
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 10: was so far over his head. Every time I listened

2246
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 10: to a press conference, he did not know what he

2247
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 10: was doing. And I don't really want to just, you know,

2248
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 10: bail on him. But two questions I had, what do

2249
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 10: you think the realistic chances of Diggs making the roster?

2250
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 10: Another one is, has either Evan or bart ever been

2251
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 10: considered for a scouting position. In the front office or

2252
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,440
Speaker 10: even maybe a consultant.

2253
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as I know, the answer to the

2254
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 2: second question is no.

2255
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 10: You know, with all the issues Bigie has always had

2256
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 10: everywhere he's gone, I think the pictriots got the did

2257
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 10: just who the pictures thought he was, and they let

2258
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 10: him off the hook.

2259
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: Who's he talking about with Diggs? He said.

2260
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,680
Speaker 2: They let him off the hook when because of the

2261
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 2: boat thing or what are you talking about?

2262
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 10: Well, because of the substance. Substance.

2263
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know what happened behind the scenes there,

2264
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 2: so apparently you know that was dealt with internally. So

2265
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if they let him off the hook

2266
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: or not. But thanks for the call, Jeff. I mean,

2267
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 2: right now he's working out with Drake May and saying

2268
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 2: all the right, that's all I care about. I don't

2269
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 2: care what he does on a boat. I care what

2270
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,600
Speaker 2: he does when he's here in Foxborough and on the

2271
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 2: playing field, and if he does well there, I don't

2272
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't care what he's doing.

2273
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bottom line is can he help Drake May

2274
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: get to the next level? And that's what we talked

2275
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: about plenty over the last couple of years. As you

2276
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 1: need to put talent around these young quarterbacks, and I

2277
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: think he's doing all the right things. I like, I

2278
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 1: get it. But you're right, Fred, I mean I think

2279
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:00,879
Speaker 1: that that's going to be long forgotten.

2280
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2281
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't want them to you know, commit crimes or

2282
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 2: you know, hurt people. Obviously, we're not going to tolerate that.

2283
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:12,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, Uh, Mike's in New Jersey.

2284
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 1: What's up?

2285
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 2: You gotta sub Mike? Mike is that your name? I

2286
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 2: can't hear you talking to the phone kind of okay, Mike,

2287
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on.

2288
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 2: Let's see George rights in. I think you guys are

2289
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 2: doing a lot of great work. Thank you. I'll be

2290
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 2: coming up to Jillette Stadium to see training camp. Will

2291
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 2: players be signing merch? There are? There are players signing

2292
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:56,640
Speaker 2: after every practice, but position, if you're an adult, it

2293
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 2: might be a little harder. I think the players get

2294
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 2: prefer reference to the kids. Yeah first, but.

2295
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 1: But I'm sure Paul and I will sign autographs for

2296
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: you if that does anything for you.

2297
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 2: What should I be looking for in the players?

2298
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: Ah, well, it depends on the day. Yeah, if you

2299
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 1: go up early on probably not a lot to really

2300
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 1: walk away and say this is what this team is

2301
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 1: going to be. But guys knowing where to be lining

2302
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: up in the right spot, the intensity of practice where

2303
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel lines up kind of just keep an eye

2304
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: on him. That's usually fun to see what position groups

2305
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: he's popping in with. And then get to the one

2306
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: on one stuff That can be a little bit fun,

2307
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: but you know, just you can't overreact to any of

2308
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 1: these drills. And like I said on Tuesday, the one

2309
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:40,840
Speaker 1: on ones and all that stuff, it gets a lot

2310
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 1: of attention, but at the same time, it's training camp,

2311
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: it's practice. They're trying to get better, they're trying to

2312
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 1: do things they're uncomfortable with, so not everything's gonna be

2313
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna be clicking. But one more thing I was going

2314
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 1: to say too earlier, was I thought it was interesting

2315
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Vrabel said during this during this spring and it goes

2316
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: without saying, but I just to hear him explicitly say likequarterback,

2317
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: so let you know who they like, because that's who

2318
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 1: they throw the ball to a lot. So as much

2319
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 1: as you know, sometimes we rail on people who keep

2320
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: stats at practice, which you add it all up and

2321
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 1: it's tough to get the true meaning of it. But

2322
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: I do think that there is value when you look

2323
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: at the number of targets that a certain player has

2324
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 1: during team portions of drills. So those kind of things

2325
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: good to keep an eye on. And then once you

2326
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: get to joint practices, there's plenty to watch. I mean,

2327
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: take your pick. I mean you have one on ones

2328
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: going here for the defensive and offensive line. You've got

2329
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and wide receivers. You've got linebackers going against running

2330
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: backs and tight ends. It's just a pot pirie of

2331
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 1: football things to watch. So that's why the joint practice

2332
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,719
Speaker 1: is such a great take because there's just no matter

2333
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 1: where you're sitting, there's going to be something going on

2334
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 1: close to you. And especially with these two teams are

2335
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 1: going to be practicing against, although Minnesota will be in Minnesota,

2336
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: but talent all over the field really fun.

2337
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 2: Let's see Danna Rhode Island has a over and under. Okay, ready,

2338
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 2: let's see Drake may over under forty two hundred passing

2339
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 2: and rushing yards so combined, Yah.

2340
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: That's a lot. I don't m like go on here,

2341
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 1: like go on here?

2342
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 2: So how many how many rushing yards do you think

2343
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 2: you'll have.

2344
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 1: Enough.

2345
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 2: Do you think it's more than three hundred.

2346
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: No, that's probably like a decent number, I think somewhere

2347
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, the question is just how much

2348
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: are they really going to design runs for him? I

2349
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a pick your spots with

2350
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 1: that talked about in the red zone, using read option

2351
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 1: stuff like that to give the quarterback a little bit

2352
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: of space to make plays. It's a lot harder to

2353
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: defend when you have that extra guy holding onto the ball.

2354
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 1: So I'd like to see that. I don't need to

2355
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: see Lamar Jackson. I don't need to see Jaydon Daniels

2356
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 1: where you're consistently getting into that stuff when you're in

2357
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: your conventional offense in the middle of the field, but

2358
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 1: the sneaks the third downs, nothing's open and he carries it.

2359
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,679
Speaker 1: Those plays three hundred sounds about right to me. I think,

2360
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2361
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 2: Three fifty all right, Marcus Jones over under one and

2362
01:47:58,760 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 2: a half touchdowns.

2363
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh, let's go over on that, really Yeah, Sure, Marcus

2364
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Jones gets a punt return.

2365
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 2: And okay, it picks six. Okay, Harold Landry over under

2366
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 2: nine and a half sacks.

2367
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: It's a really interesting number. I want to say over,

2368
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 1: but like I'm just I'm so worried it's gonna be

2369
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 1: under and they need so much of him.

2370
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 2: Well, as long as a lot of people are getting sacks,

2371
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 2: I don't think you need that double.

2372
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna say under.

2373
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 3: Under and let them do it by committee.

2374
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I think he needs to be seven

2375
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 1: eight nine kind of a kind of an impact to

2376
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 1: really for the offense to really be hunting.

2377
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Carlton Davis two and a hay interceptions.

2378
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: Can't throw at Gonzo, You're gonna have to throw at him,

2379
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: I guess, so I'm gonna say over with him.

2380
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Jared Wilson five and a hay starts.

2381
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,679
Speaker 1: Interesting, I'm gonna say, andres we haven't even seen him yet,

2382
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 1: But I think that's again, like the Landry won great

2383
01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 1: questions that really get to the.

2384
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 2: Heart of I'm gonna say over this year.

2385
01:48:56,880 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: See that's great. I mean, if he's able to come

2386
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: in and win a starting job and wow, we all rookie,

2387
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: they believe in a rookie this.

2388
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 3: Quick and hopefully not by necessity of injury.

2389
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams twelve and a half yards per reception.

2390
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll go over on that one. I think he's

2391
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a oh yeah, you think he'll be I

2392
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,600
Speaker 1: don't think I'll love a lot of class, but I

2393
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 1: think he's got the downfield's catching skills and a little

2394
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: savvy to get off the line.

2395
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 2: And finally, Mike Rabel zero point five Microsoft surface is broken?

2396
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 2: Has he been known to throw those?

2397
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: I hope it's under. I hope it's under. I don't

2398
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 1: need anything getting raves that mad. He's got to break

2399
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 1: some tablets.

2400
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 2: Okay, um, let's see jacket and arbus is. His biggest

2401
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 2: heartbreak was September twenty fourth, nineteen ninety four. I was

2402
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 2: watching from row twenty five in the twenty yard line.

2403
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:53,759
Speaker 2: Colorado's Cordell Stewart watched the sixty four yard desperation pass

2404
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 2: time seemed to slow down. At the end of the day,

2405
01:49:57,479 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 2: it fell into the arms of Colorado's Michael Westbrook to

2406
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: give Colorado an improbable, miraculous twenty seven to twenty six win.

2407
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:07,600
Speaker 1: I like those Colorado teams there at be inge me

2408
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: and for those days.

2409
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 2: Wasn't Ty Law involved in that game?

2410
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. Was that that was against Michigan?

2411
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety four I think he was, and then he

2412
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:22,639
Speaker 2: got drafted here in ninety five. Yeah, I think, I think,

2413
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 2: If I'm not incorrect, I.

2414
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Barely know what happened in college football last year.

2415
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: Tellen what Wisconsin wants to know. Like everybody else, it seems,

2416
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 2: when will this team get new permanent uniforms? Adopting the

2417
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 2: color rush as lazy? The Patriots currently have one of

2418
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 2: the worst uniforms in the league. The team deserves something good.

2419
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: Put Alex in charge. I would certainly trust her decisions.

2420
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

2421
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 2: Like when did like this thing start that the Patriots

2422
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 2: uniforms were so bad? Now I get the blueberry. I

2423
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 2: don't like the whole blue on blue. I never liked

2424
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 2: that from day one, But I don't mind the blue

2425
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:03,639
Speaker 2: one on gray.

2426
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Me neither all dirty pants Now I like those uniforms.

2427
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 1: I think that should you know, you could update those

2428
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 1: a little bit? Maybe, But do people call in and

2429
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: complain about the uniforms before they made that switch to

2430
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 1: the people complain about the the uniforms they were winning.

2431
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 3: Dynasty era.

2432
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: I love those uniforms.

2433
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 3: I feel like so much of it has to do

2434
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 3: with the performance.

2435
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 1: But that's what it is, right, Like that's when people

2436
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,759
Speaker 1: like to me, if they came out in those uniforms

2437
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: like first game of the season, unbeknownst to anybody, I

2438
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 1: would be so jacked up because all of a sudden,

2439
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 1: it's like the real Patriots are back.

2440
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 8: You know.

2441
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to get that.

2442
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,839
Speaker 4: But noway year increment where you're allowed to change them.

2443
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, but you have the

2444
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 1: Rivalry uniform no where that wear that one game this year.

2445
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 2: I think you'll almost have to give like a five

2446
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 2: year notice or something like that because the supply chain,

2447
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 2: and you know, because Nike who makes all you know,

2448
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 2: they invest a lot in making these uniforms and they

2449
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 2: have to have some warning that, okay, we need to

2450
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 2: run out on this inventory before we start a new one.

2451
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 2: And then you don't want to give people too much

2452
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 2: of a heads up that oh we're gonna have new uniforms,

2453
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 2: because then they'll stop buying the current one. So it

2454
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 2: always comes down to money, folks. Always comes down to money.

2455
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 1: The rule of life. But like it bugs me when

2456
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: somebody's like, I forget which player was just got a

2457
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 1: Tom brad It was a brown front. It might have

2458
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 1: been got a Tom Brady jersey that got sent to him,

2459
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: but it's like the current one and like he wore

2460
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: that in the Thursday Night games and in twenty nineteen,

2461
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 1: it's not the Tom Brady jersey like the one he

2462
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 1: won Super Bowls, and like that's the one to get.

2463
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,839
Speaker 2: But like you said, it would be cool if, like whatever,

2464
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 2: the team kept it completely under wraps and then I mean,

2465
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 2: you know, Opening Night support, they ran out in these

2466
01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 2: completely different uniforms. People's heads would explode, you know, that's

2467
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 2: for sure. But they don't. They could never do that

2468
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 2: would lake out or they want to do you know,

2469
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 2: the the unveil for you know, to get people to

2470
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 2: buy it and all that. But it would be so

2471
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 2: cool if they just ran out in new uniforms and

2472
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:12,799
Speaker 2: no one had any idea.

2473
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 4: Well, and when you're not building a HiPE for it

2474
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 4: and it just happens, you'd think that might be Yeah.

2475
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 3: Now it's like like the pop website would crack exactly.

2476
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: Paul wouldn't even notice it.

2477
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 2: People would freak.

2478
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: Out, what are they wearing? What? What?

2479
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 2: What? People would freak out?

2480
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,600
Speaker 1: And well, I will just assure everyone I am very

2481
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: passionate about those uniforms. So when you're passionate about those uniforms,

2482
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 1: I will continue to bang the drum for those because,

2483
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 1: like I said, the forty nine Ers, the Packers, the Cowboys,

2484
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 1: the NFL Dynasties, the Raiders, like those are their uniforms.

2485
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 1: Those are the teams. Nobody in Green Bay is like

2486
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: we got to get new uniforms. Everyone loves them because

2487
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 1: that's what they are. So yeah, stick with class. You

2488
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 1: want in keep the reds is the alternates love that.

2489
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't need those to be full time.

2490
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 2: But people just like new. They just like new.

2491
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:03,439
Speaker 1: Not always, so we'll see, we'll see. People are really picky.

2492
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, you know, the reactions to the well,

2493
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 1: there's me two divisions, the FC East and I think

2494
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 1: the NFC West that are going to have the rivalry

2495
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: uniforms this year. We'll see how those are.

2496
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 2: This is how it always goes on the block. So

2497
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 2: I'll write, Wow, Pop had a great catch comment where's

2498
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 2: Eft and Chisholm, And Chisholm had a great catch where's

2499
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,639
Speaker 2: mac Hollis? You know, like it's always the next guy.

2500
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's true. We love novelty for sure.

2501
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 2: Let's see I wanted to talk about the rivalry jerseys.

2502
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: Me too, Me too across the league because there's been

2503
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 1: a lot of rumors going on, and I think the

2504
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: teams all developed them independent of each other, so nobody

2505
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 1: really knows what the other teams are doing. So it'll

2506
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 1: be interesting to see with what they.

2507
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 2: Come up with. Dan Wright, sin and Reno. His biggest

2508
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 2: sports heartbreak was the eighty five Super Bowl loss to

2509
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 2: the Bears. We had all the momentum going in and

2510
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:03,240
Speaker 2: we're promptly crushed. As a side note, cool Ranch Doritos

2511
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 2: were introduced for the Super Bowl. It was the first

2512
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 2: time in the fourteen year old me had them. I

2513
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 2: have never trusted them since Cool Ranch Doritos in nineteen

2514
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:14,360
Speaker 2: eighty five.

2515
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Wow, really was that the second flavor? That must have

2516
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 1: been the second flavor?

2517
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 3: And now we just have the red bag the blue bag.

2518
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, keep tracking. I wasn't crushed with the eighty

2519
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 2: five First of all, I wasn't that big a Patriots

2520
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 2: fan back then. I was a Bronco fan. But like,

2521
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 2: they didn't have a chance from the from the get go.

2522
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they had the field goal.

2523
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 1: But I've been living in this for the last they

2524
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: got months after that field goal, it was all down

2525
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 1: had but they had like Don Blackman had like an

2526
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 1: interception go off his hands and look, Ultimately, nobody could

2527
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,839
Speaker 1: beat the Bears that year. And one of the players

2528
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I talked to said it felt like they had twenty

2529
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: two guys on defense. Yeah, they had twenty two right,

2530
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 1: So ultimately, at the time you didn't realize that you

2531
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: were playing one of the all time great NFL teams.

2532
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 2: But I to me, I had four quarters to prepare

2533
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 2: myself that they were. This thing's over now.

2534
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 1: They ran out of scheme for sure. But I talked

2535
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: to Patrick Sullivan a couple of weeks ago, interviewed him

2536
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 1: for probably talked to him about forty five minutes. So

2537
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 1: it was just awesome. I mean, this is the son

2538
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: of the founder of the Patriots, and he's got a

2539
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: great perspective on that season. He became the GM a

2540
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 1: couple of years earlier. So yeah, it's it's fine. I

2541
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: gotten to know that season so much better now. It's interesting.

2542
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:31,880
Speaker 2: Ryan and Burlington One Patriots question two off season questions. One,

2543
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 2: are we underestimating how little or how low our depth

2544
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: is at certain or key positions?

2545
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:40,040
Speaker 1: Well, I hope if you listen to the show, you

2546
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 1: know that we aren't because I think we pointed that out.

2547
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 2: But I think you can go to any team in

2548
01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 2: the NFL and ask the same question. It's hard to

2549
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,640
Speaker 2: have quality depth at too many positions. YEA, you know,

2550
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 2: you can have it in a couple but to have

2551
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 2: it throughout your team is really tough in the NFL.

2552
01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: Probably every year that you have you know, I think

2553
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 1: I think twenty thirteen, the Patriots lost Vince will Fork

2554
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: and I forget who the other big tackle next to

2555
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: him were. They lost them like within like the same

2556
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 1: week or two. Yeah, devastating. It just crushed.

2557
01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 2: I remember the year that Brady was down to his

2558
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 2: fifth center. Yeah, you know, it was like the center

2559
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: position just kept getting killed.

2560
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the quarterback is always its unique piece,

2561
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,040
Speaker 1: and any team loses their starting quarterback, it's going to change.

2562
01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 1: But Paul's pointed out Will Campbell's health, and you know,

2563
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 1: if he goes down, your Varian low who's in your

2564
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: back to where you're right back? It was I think Splaine,

2565
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 1: I think Harold Landry, Yeah, some of those Celenity people.

2566
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, like look if one of the safeties went down,

2567
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, like, who are right, We'll kind of figure

2568
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: it out. You don't want to lose Davis or Gonzalez,

2569
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 1: but you have some depth there to try to.

2570
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a game or two, maybe you can figure

2571
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 2: it out.

2572
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 1: But but there's a handful of spots. Yeah, left tackle.

2573
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 2: Off season questions. What's something another city in America has

2574
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,840
Speaker 2: that you wish Boston or perhaps you're a hometown would have.

2575
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 3: Florida is bright Line? Florida is what the bright Line train? Oh,

2576
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 3: it's fantastic. Okay, why don't we have that? Okays, it's terrible.

2577
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 2: So your answer isn't nightlife?

2578
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't care about that.

2579
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 2: You don't care about that anymore? Okay?

2580
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe just like a better grid to get around

2581
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 1: the city.

2582
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2583
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: La was like once I get like, oh I get it,

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01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm on Pico here, I'm gonna be a Piko.

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Speaker 2: There a million. Yeah, but you don't want the traffic

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01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,480
Speaker 2: still drive around in Boston and I'm like, oh God,

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01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:37,320
Speaker 2: where am I going? If you learn, like, it's not

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01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 2: that hard. You learned four or five of the major roads,

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01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 2: you'll never get lost.

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Speaker 3: Not that hard.

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01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 4: It's just the traffic that accumulates because it's I don't know.

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01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 4: But then you go into like Florida where it's I

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01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:52,440
Speaker 4: feel like it's just strip mall traffic, late strip mall traffic.

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01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 3: That's so I don't know, good bar that makes.

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01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 1: Me appreciate good barbecue.

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01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 2: Uh. And this is a question for probably Alex's. I

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01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 2: haven't been there in yours. Is the seaport overrated?

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01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 4: So I feel like the seaport is just like a

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01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 4: propped up corporate neighborhood. It's just like restaurant. There's one

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01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 4: grocery store, it's a Trader Joe's, which to me isn't

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01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:17,760
Speaker 4: like a real I love Trader Joe's, but it's not

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01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:23,720
Speaker 4: like a real grocery store. And it's smallbody there so expensive.

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01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 3: It's a great question. I don't know. Oh they're so

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01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:32,400
Speaker 3: rich exactly. And it's like who can afford to actually

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01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:33,920
Speaker 3: live in those condos?

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01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 4: People do a lot of our players do, but I

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01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 4: don't know. I can't fathom it. So I'm like, who

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01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 4: are these people are?

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01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 2: So what about not a place to live but a

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01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 2: place to just go out.

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01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 3: I think it's cool to hang out.

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01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:47,880
Speaker 4: I like the ocean, but but then I'm just like,

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01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 4: I miss when it was the whiskey priest there and

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01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 4: all those dives. And now it's just so built up

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01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 4: and so expensive and it's kind of hard to get

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01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 4: in and out of, Like you need a car, but

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01:59:58,960 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 4: then where do you park the car?

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Speaker 3: Are it's so expensive? Yeah, well that's in Cambridge, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Where I live, and Sharon, we have the commuter rail

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02:00:06,280 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 1: and which has changed my perspective because my where I

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02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 1: grew up it was impossible to get the Boston. It's like, oh,

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02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 1: it's a nightmare. We didn't live, you know, we lived

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02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 1: in between the highways. So uh there there are some

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02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,040
Speaker 1: select spots with good transit.

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02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 2: All right, that's going to be it for this edition

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Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. If we one have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the weather's going to be like,

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02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 2: but you know, we got to savor these summer weekends.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next Tuesday. Hey, this is Deuce.

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02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,800
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02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:41,240
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02:00:41,280 --> 02:00:43,080
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Speaker 2: Thanks a lot,