WEBVTT - From Dream to Screen 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.360 Welcome to J dot M, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:11.640 Welcome everybody. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.400 Oh it is so so, so so so good to 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.840 be here with you today. Welcome to J dot L 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.160 the podcast. And you already know. I am here with 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.760 my wonderful sister friends, Aga Grady dans La. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:25.000 That's her. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:32.760 I'm the marvelous liar safe claud I guess that's her. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:34.479 Yes, No, that's her. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:35.920 That's her radio. That's me, that's me. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.040 She's down paying herself today, ladies and gentlemen, because she 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:40.040 has lashes. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.040 When she's so fine. At this point, she's so fine. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.600 She feels she needs She's trying to take it down, 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:50.519 but it's unnecessary. 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:51.520 I woke up like this. 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.680 This is Matthew's flattening with me with your eyes. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.200 You know I go further with that than you do you. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:12.199 I mean, life is still liking, she said, I love it. Look, 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.920 I'm sitting here with my sister friends. I am putting 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.720 some moisture in my hair before I get my fue lox. 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.880 Y'all know how important it is for our hair to 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:26.360 be moisturized. Right for so long we watched so many films. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.800 We need bad wigs with the with the lace showing 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.720 we've seen, We've seen. I've had some bad wigs myself. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:41.480 I will it's time for healing. It is, this is 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:42.039 a purge. 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.400 Come on, come on, Sheila, come on, don't talk. 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:49.440 About the Sheila we've had. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:52.720 We've we've definitely seen ourselves in a lot of lights, 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.520 and some of. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.680 Them definitely have not been flattering. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:01:58.960 You know. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.760 I'll say for myself that I feel like Shila is 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.480 not my favorite look. But I definitely felt like this 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:10.720 is this was somebody who was someone who was genuine, 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.560 like there was a there's there's people like that right now. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.560 It's we were living under the thumb under some husband 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.520 or some wife, some somebody you know that's trying to 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:26.200 control them or negate their existence. We've seen it a 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.840 lot and so many films, and now we're reaching a 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:30.880 place where. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:36.520 We've got movies like Woman Knamn I mean, super powerful Honey, 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.440 where the skin is the skin is shining, the colors 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:41.880 are jewel toned. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:47.680 What right do you understand me? Liter a low of. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.800 It all, the glove, the glow of it all, the 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:56.120 bronze yes, the red and the orange underneath the brown. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.839 Like finally, you know where we're really starting to see 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:06.040 representation in a way that that that really glorifies who 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:07.519 parts of us are. 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:08.680 You know, you can. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.040 Definitely can never put us in any kind of boxes. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.240 That wouldn't be fair. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.600 And on speaking on that note, we have some amazing 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.080 guests right now talking about what we're looking at. On 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.000 on a normal basis, everybody grab their Netflix or their 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.320 Prime or their whatever BT, whatever it is that you're 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:31.399 looking at. And these two ladies definitely make an impact 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.240 on what we have seen and what we will see. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:41.520 Ladies and gentlemen. Sierra Davis, Hello, Hello, Hello, And I 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.400 was just you know how I always say who it 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:48.000 is and then you say hello, it's the same right, 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:58.040 And doctor Jamika Anderson Hello, Hello, ladies, agent please please please, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.440 let's talk about all the things. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:03:59.920 Come on. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:03.320 Yes, these yummy women, yummy who are getting to talk 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.000 to today, Well they have a lot of credentials, but 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.960 what brings them to us today is they have created 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:16.600 an amazing program for young black girl filmmakers called Black 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:22.080 Girls Film Camp and it is really just, I mean 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.720 an amazing program. You know a lot of us know 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.320 about youth programs this that, especially as with kids. I 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.119 put my kid in this thing and that thing, and YadA, YadA, YadA. 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.120 Some of it's great. Some of it was a waste 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.640 of your time and money. We all know how it goes. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.680 But I will have to say, I have six kids. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.240 I don't I have paid for many a camp. Okay, 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:47.480 this y'all already know. I have gone to many a program. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:53.560 I have sat through program ooh, girl girl, many a 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:58.640 program Okay, all right, many a thing have said they 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.640 was going to do a thing, hallelujah, and they did 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:06.520 not do a thing. But in this particular situation, this 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:14.000 has been a very unique and beautiful experience as from 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:18.120 the parental side, just to see black women create a 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.520 thing and follow through with the thing and just nurture 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.440 specifically and intentionally into black girls. And y'all know how 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.599 y'all already, ma'am, you already know how I feel about 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:30.040 these things. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.040 This is great. This is tried and through through asis family. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.440 This is how we know. This is this is the 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:35.080 good ship right now. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.720 Really, I don't come. I don't. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:39.600 I don't come with the trash, you understand me. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.200 I don't do it because I. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.480 Know it's russ out here in these parental streets. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.440 Okay, and particularly when you have black girls, when you 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:51.120 are raising black girls, this is a particular type of challenge. Okay, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.120 So anyway, that was my that was my intro, my 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.680 emo intro. But yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, Sierra Davis 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.120 and Jamiica Anderson, y'all. One of y'all is a doctor, right, 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.359 come on, and doctor Anderson. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.280 We paid a lot for them credentials. 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.520 We don't want. Let's name this organization. The Black Girl 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.560 Film Camp is what we're talking about, the black. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:11.880 Black girl. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.320 Already. Doesn't that sound exciting to you? 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:16.919 Yes? 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.160 Yeah, the parents that have daughters, Like, isn't that exciting 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:26.560 that there's a way to actually fist fight, to actually 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:31.240 fist fight? All of the the bell shit. Okay, it 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.600 is so much of it that we are. We are 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.240 not on some little island and everyone is all the same. 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.279 That there's layers and there's there we're black girls, an 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.600 Onion Toney and its careers. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.560 It's a lot of careers too. I'm like, I don't. 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.160 Really want to dive into this with the ladies y'all, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.359 because I'm like, when one decides they want to do 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.839 a film, a film camp for black girls, how do 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.159 you even figure out what areas you want to dive 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.560 into to expose them to please? 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:03.720 Yeah, absolutely, the burst the birth. Okay, So I had 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.640 been in this media space for quite some time. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.400 I had actually started doing some work immediately out of 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.440 college and media literacy. Didn't know what the name of 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.440 that was at the time. I just knew I wanted 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.280 to talk about media messaging what we consume, like really 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.280 become more critical with the type of music, the type of. 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:21.440 Content that we're watching. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.520 And so I really kind of found my way, you know, 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.760 like that internal guide and being in the space when 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.800 I was working with youths because we're influenced and sometimes 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:34.280 we're not knowing is helping us unpack the content we're consuming. 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.520 And really really think about how it's. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.160 Influencing our lives and how we engage and how we 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.720 think and our beliefs, our ideologies. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.560 But needles to say, been in this space for a 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:45.120 while with. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:48.200 Creating youth programming, but it wasn't until I went into 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.960 pursuing my PhD that I started doing research and I 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.400 wanted to hone in on black girls specifically, and of 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.240 course I started learning about a lot of the disparities 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.600 in schools because I got my PhD in curriculum and 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.320 instruction and with literacy, Black girls have the lowest literacy 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:07.120 proficiency rate in our country out of their gender peer group. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.680 Black boys a number one. Yeah, so black boys is 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.440 number one, but out of the gender peer group black girls. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.320 So black boys then black girls. If you're looking at 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.480 everyone but gender peer group, I situate out of all girls, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:20.840 black girls have the lowest. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.000 Okay, black boys, I think eleven. 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:25.360 Percent are passing their reading tests and nineteen percent of 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.160 black girls are passing their beatings. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.200 So then when you look at tech proficiency, same thing. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.880 Black boys number one, black girls number two, but out 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.760 of their gender peer group, they're the lowest. So you know, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.920 I'm doing this work with media, and of course we 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.319 already knew there's issues with representation, you know, but then 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.120 you know, you dive deeper and you see only two 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:48.400 percent of Black women are the ones behind the camera, directors, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:49.880 filmmakers in the industry. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.480 So it was to me it was a no brainer. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.320 We gotta do something about this, and there's. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.960 A there's an opportunity here to really bridge the gap 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:02.240 between literacy in store because we have literacy rich lives 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.840 it might not be reflected in your eccentric curriculum that 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.480 we're seeing in schools, but we have stories and we 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.559 engage in literacyes in different ways than what they have 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.640 packaged and program for us to learn in school. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.839 I'm sorry, I gotta stop you. I gotta stop you. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.040 Please please reiterate this. 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:24.760 We engage in literacies definitely, man, Definitely. The reason why 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.400 I had to stop you there is because I need 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:30.520 people to hear this. There is a very specific way 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.480 in which we are told that our children must learn 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:34.199 and be literate. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:35.839 It is very eurocentric. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.600 It is not indicative of the multiple ways that we 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:44.880 are already proficient. That we're already proficient, right, So instead 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.760 of instead of letting us know that those things are 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.480 valid and validating those proficiencies, we put them into other 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.160 situations in which they are not proficient and then tell 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.640 them they are illiterate. 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.920 So I'm very clear, I want to make sure. 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.000 That this pH I ain't got no PhD. 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.120 But had said, yes, there's a thing now called black 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.360 girl literacy, so I got to just even shot shot 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.480 that out the there's a field, a field called black 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.280 girl literacyes. The ways in which we know are the 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.800 ways in which we make meaning. Understanding the importance of 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.640 multimodal texts, like I have to have workshops with people 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.600 and say, you know, yeah, three year olds are reading. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.079 When I see those McDonald archers, that's that's a symbol 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.760 that means something, that means McDonald's before. They're not a 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.960 spell it, it still is. There's different modes of text. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:37.240 There's visual, there's oral, there's gestural. Our gestures is literacy. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.679 So just understanding that there's different ways in which we 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.000 make meaning and we understand and we communicate. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.000 That's a part of Black girls literacies. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.640 Me using my hands right now when I do this, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.320 that means something, right, So there's different different ways in 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.480 which we make meaning. And so I really became really 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.600 passionate about that, like, Okay, how do how can I 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:02.600 center Black girls literacies? Our stories that have been historically marginalized, 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:05.880 our stories that are not being captured by us. I 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.400 think it's really interesting. Even when we first pitch Black 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.320 Girls Film Camp for girls to come in and pitch 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.040 their stories, they want to tell a lot. I don't 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:15.920 want to tell stories about black boys. They main subject 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.679 in characters a black boy. I'm like, no, baby girl 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.360 we sent to black girls in this space. Your film 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:23.920 topic need to be about a black girl. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:25.760 One more thing, I want to make sure that people 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.040 didn't miss this, Okay, don't miss this part that when 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:37.800 black girls have an opportunity to tell a story. Oh listen, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.080 I know what you're saying. We have an opportunity to 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.720 tell a story. Can you tell our stories about but 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:44.480 when our. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.760 When the brother Yeah, but why don't. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:49.960 We got that? 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.760 We're gonna have to ask the black men in film 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.959 organization to see who they are about? 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:58.720 Yeah, our honey, let's go back on all the films 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:05.720 that the brothers have made. All right, you're right, ma'am, well, ma'am, okay, anyway, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.559 but I just I didn't want to interrupt. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.880 Let's go Typically, stories that are told by black men 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:16.400 about black women tend to be traumatizing. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.120 Yeah, I'm trying to find an exception, ladies cer traumatizing? 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:21.480 Did Jamiica? 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.120 No, no exceptions, there's no exceptions. 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.120 It's tough. It's tough, have y'all. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.920 Are y'all familiar with with books like Real to Real? 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.240 What's My what's my lady name? She just passed away? 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.400 Black woman scholar wrote Real to Real. She dissected Spike 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:35.960 Lee's work. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:43.280 I remember, yes, yes, I've never read that. I've never 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.200 read Real Toil. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:45.800 She did a lot of work in that space. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.480 Even the films that are of the culture that have 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.920 been created by black men, that's. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.959 For the culture, for black culture, our classic mans. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:58.000 A lot of the ones that have been created, we're marginalized. 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.760 It's usually centering trauma on our and stories. 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.800 Some of us have just ignored it and like, well, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:07.480 you know what if. 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.600 We go with the classics we have, you know, so again, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.480 I think probably what we're going to get to, the 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.040 good middle ground we'll get to, is where we can 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.480 understand that we can have something that we love and 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.720 critique it still and that that does not that does 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.400 not negate what it has been to us. And that's 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.480 the problems. Oftentimes we just cannot hold a multiple truth 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.240 like a thing can be, it can be problematic and 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.360 still be something that was was needed to be made 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.320 at the time. And I they don't age well you 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.840 know what I'm saying. So and it's fine, especially in 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.080 something like film like it's a it's it's it's it's 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:51.439 a new art form as as as you know, historically. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.040 You know, trauma films. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.800 I was just saying about the color purple. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.840 We reenact the films Outstill that's all the time I 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:01.880 speak color purple. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.040 And the women of brutes of place, I'm like, oh, that's. 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:11.200 Really lord, you we speak color purple. That's a language. 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.440 It is absolutely okay. 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:15.559 I think I say I gotta go to school about 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.120 three times a week. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.360 I say that it's in the cooler on the shelf. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:25.080 Everything you see my phone honds on the coolers in 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:26.240 the cooler on the shelf. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.600 I do who shep who y'all? This is bad though, 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.920 this is bad. When I want to say something about 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:34.720 my husband. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:48.720 For the kids, I be like this, am I. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:57.600 More real talk after the break. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.120 So, Sierra, the thing is, you know, with you all 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.479 being focused on this and understanding the need and necessity 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.280 for it, it's like you're starting from a scratch. I 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.920 think a lot of times we see a need and 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.760 the many of us, especially in our community and particularly 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.800 black women, we're looking at these needs in our community 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.640 and we want to be involved and we want to 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.080 create something. But creating something from scratch, it just feels 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.080 like a big problem. You have this big need, right 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.000 and you have this desire to do something, So like, 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.480 what does the beginning of this look like? Is it 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.360 the two of y'all in the home office make a 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.320 phone call? I mean, what does this look like in 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:37.280 the beginning of it? 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:37.880 Right? 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.760 So when I came on, Jamiica actually started this in 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:41.960 her PhD program. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:43.080 She had a grant, so. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.560 It started off as project and so I came the 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.440 first year actually as a creative coach, and then I. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.280 Started gett a little bit more involved. I end up 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.320 being over like logistics and recruitment and stuff like that. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.240 I was rilling her in. She was she was. I 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.760 didn't know the setup was real, but it was a 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.160 good setup. So so I came in on the other 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:02.640 side of it. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:05.840 It's like one of the contracts that individuals and so 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.880 it was such an amazing and beautiful, you know experience. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.720 I'm a creative heart at heart. 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.440 I have a background in finance, but I also do like, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.960 you know, planning and event planning and stuff like that on. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.280 This, you know as well. So I was like, okay, cool. 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:21.000 You know, normally you're not trying to support her other 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.640 you know, nonprofit. I am not the media, and you know, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:24.520 I don't like to do. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.040 Anything half as excuse me. 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.000 Or anything, and so I couldn't be fully committed as 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:31.720 I wanted to be. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.240 So when she came along, it just happened. The time. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:35.600 It was just like perfect. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.200 So the first year when it was a pilot project, 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:40.400 it just kind of took off. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.000 We weren't ready for where it was going to go, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.160 and it was like beautiful. It was so amazing. And 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:46.280 she was like year is this. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:47.600 I'm sorry, sah, what year is this? 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:48.880 Twenty twenty one. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:50.720 One? 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:55.480 Yeah, so in pandemic and pandemic and so so we 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.160 went through, you know, went through everything the time, and 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:58.120 everything laid out great. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.040 It was amazing. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.880 And so she was like, see, you know people are approaching 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:03.320 me saying they want to be on a board. You know, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.880 we got an organization, you know, you want to turn 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:06.800 this into an organization. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:08.680 I was like, let's do it. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.080 Like we had no idea where the worlds would lead us, 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:12.720 where we would go. 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:14.919 We was like, okay, forget it, you know, let's do it. 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:15.919 Do it. I was all in. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.399 You know, when your friend has an amazing vision and 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.760 something that you're also very passionate about, you I mean, 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:23.720 come on, jumping. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.600 We say, let's let's go. 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.880 Girlfriend calls you on the phone and saying I want 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:30.160 to do. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:34.000 A podcast that you're You'd be like, yeah, great, like. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.480 Shaer, I ain't doing nothing. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.440 So that's that's how it started. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.960 Yep, we were we were literally at home because like 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:41.960 I said, we were still like the pandemic was still 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:42.600 very much here. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:44.040 We were at home. 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.320 It started out that we went into that first year 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.679 as a national organization and it took off, and Jamiica 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.159 Knemy and she was like, you know what, see how 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:54.880 about you know, because you wanted to have some kind 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.480 of like in person, you know, components. So things started 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.080 to ease up a little bit, you know. And in 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.800 twenty twenty two and so she was like, let's go 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:02.200 to l A. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.000 I think we should take the girls l I was like, okay, 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.360 my nerves but hold on, oh wait, wait wait, oh 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:09.320 you know cause me I'm shut down COVID. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.680 She is you need the balance I need? 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:15.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah we do. 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.040 And my mind goes all to all the details that 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.440 is going into that. I said, give me a minute 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.560 the process and let me pray on it and we'll 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.679 come back. I was like, okay, okay, I thought about it. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.120 I was like, Okay, what does it take to make 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:25.480 this happen? 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:26.440 I was like, let's do it. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.480 So next thing, you know, we in La. Your two 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.280 were in La. We don't forty plus women across the nation. 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:32.240 We've partner with. 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.040 USC, one of the biggest film the biggest film. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.120 School in the nation, and it's just kind of been 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:39.560 like history CANDUs, it was it. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.720 I want to take this opportunity to ask you guys, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.760 so you guys can tell the listeners just the just 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.840 the kind of basic framework of the camp, because like 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.520 I think we're talking about the l A retreat, which 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.560 is amazing, but I want to talk about, like, you know, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.440 how you guys set up the camp, what did entails, 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:00.359 how do you get the girls? 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.360 What is the process? So just kind of runnings through 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:02.720 that part. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.960 Yeah, it's a lot, So it is right. 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.840 Right, the quick version, I guess it's a twelve week camp. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.680 Were actually gonna extended to sixteen weeks next year the 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:16.600 tweaking things. 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.120 So it's a twelve week program. It's hybrid. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:25.000 Okay, we do a call where we announced applications are open. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.880 We only take ten girls nationally, Okay, so only ten 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.200 that's because the investment is over ten g's plus per girl, 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.280 so it's only ten girls. 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.960 We take. It's very intimate, it's very all. We we 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:41.080 eat it with you. How many okay? 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:46.320 So literally over two hundred plus girls applied after last year, 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.080 after year two, we had close to one thousand girls 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.840 on the waiting list on so we actually had to 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.960 be strategic about the application process where we take it 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.600 down to only being open twelve weeks in now video 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.080