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Speaker 1: Welcome to J dot M, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 3: Oh it is so so, so so so good to

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Speaker 3: be here with you today. Welcome to J dot L

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Speaker 3: the podcast. And you already know. I am here with

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Speaker 3: my wonderful sister friends, Aga Grady dans La.

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Speaker 2: That's her.

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Speaker 3: I'm the marvelous liar safe claud I guess that's her.

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Speaker 4: Yes, No, that's her.

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Speaker 5: That's her radio. That's me, that's me.

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Speaker 1: She's down paying herself today, ladies and gentlemen, because she

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Speaker 1: has lashes.

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Speaker 2: When she's so fine. At this point, she's so fine.

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Speaker 1: She feels she needs She's trying to take it down,

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Speaker 1: but it's unnecessary.

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Speaker 5: I woke up like this.

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Speaker 2: This is Matthew's flattening with me with your eyes.

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Speaker 5: You know I go further with that than you do you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, life is still liking, she said, I love it. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here with my sister friends. I am putting

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Speaker 3: some moisture in my hair before I get my fue lox.

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Speaker 3: Y'all know how important it is for our hair to

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Speaker 3: be moisturized. Right for so long we watched so many films.

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Speaker 3: We need bad wigs with the with the lace showing

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Speaker 3: we've seen, We've seen. I've had some bad wigs myself.

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Speaker 2: I will it's time for healing. It is, this is

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Speaker 2: a purge.

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Speaker 5: Come on, come on, Sheila, come on, don't talk.

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Speaker 2: About the Sheila we've had.

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Speaker 3: We've we've definitely seen ourselves in a lot of lights,

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Speaker 3: and some of.

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Speaker 2: Them definitely have not been flattering.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I'll say for myself that I feel like Shila is

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Speaker 3: not my favorite look. But I definitely felt like this

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Speaker 3: is this was somebody who was someone who was genuine,

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Speaker 3: like there was a there's there's people like that right now.

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Speaker 3: It's we were living under the thumb under some husband

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Speaker 3: or some wife, some somebody you know that's trying to

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Speaker 3: control them or negate their existence. We've seen it a

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Speaker 3: lot and so many films, and now we're reaching a

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Speaker 3: place where.

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Speaker 1: We've got movies like Woman Knamn I mean, super powerful Honey,

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Speaker 1: where the skin is the skin is shining, the colors

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Speaker 1: are jewel toned.

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Speaker 2: What right do you understand me? Liter a low of.

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Speaker 3: It all, the glove, the glow of it all, the

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Speaker 3: bronze yes, the red and the orange underneath the brown.

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Speaker 3: Like finally, you know where we're really starting to see

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Speaker 3: representation in a way that that that really glorifies who

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Speaker 3: parts of us are.

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Speaker 2: You know, you can.

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Speaker 3: Definitely can never put us in any kind of boxes.

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Speaker 2: That wouldn't be fair.

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Speaker 3: And on speaking on that note, we have some amazing

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Speaker 3: guests right now talking about what we're looking at. On

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Speaker 3: on a normal basis, everybody grab their Netflix or their

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Speaker 3: Prime or their whatever BT, whatever it is that you're

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Speaker 3: looking at. And these two ladies definitely make an impact

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Speaker 3: on what we have seen and what we will see.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen. Sierra Davis, Hello, Hello, Hello, And I

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Speaker 3: was just you know how I always say who it

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Speaker 3: is and then you say hello, it's the same right,

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Speaker 3: And doctor Jamika Anderson Hello, Hello, ladies, agent please please please,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about all the things.

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Speaker 4: Come on.

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Speaker 1: Yes, these yummy women, yummy who are getting to talk

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Speaker 1: to today, Well they have a lot of credentials, but

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Speaker 1: what brings them to us today is they have created

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Speaker 1: an amazing program for young black girl filmmakers called Black

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Speaker 1: Girls Film Camp and it is really just, I mean

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Speaker 1: an amazing program. You know a lot of us know

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Speaker 1: about youth programs this that, especially as with kids. I

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Speaker 1: put my kid in this thing and that thing, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: Some of it's great. Some of it was a waste

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Speaker 1: of your time and money. We all know how it goes.

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Speaker 1: But I will have to say, I have six kids.

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Speaker 1: I don't I have paid for many a camp. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this y'all already know. I have gone to many a program.

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Speaker 1: I have sat through program ooh, girl girl, many a

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Speaker 1: program Okay, all right, many a thing have said they

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Speaker 1: was going to do a thing, hallelujah, and they did

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Speaker 1: not do a thing. But in this particular situation, this

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Speaker 1: has been a very unique and beautiful experience as from

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Speaker 1: the parental side, just to see black women create a

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Speaker 1: thing and follow through with the thing and just nurture

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Speaker 1: specifically and intentionally into black girls. And y'all know how

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Speaker 1: y'all already, ma'am, you already know how I feel about

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Speaker 6: This is great. This is tried and through through asis family.

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Speaker 6: This is how we know. This is this is the

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Speaker 6: good ship right now.

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Speaker 4: Really, I don't come. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't come with the trash, you understand me.

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Speaker 5: I don't do it because I.

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Speaker 2: Know it's russ out here in these parental streets.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and particularly when you have black girls, when you

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Speaker 1: are raising black girls, this is a particular type of challenge. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, that was my that was my intro, my

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Speaker 1: emo intro. But yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, Sierra Davis

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Speaker 1: and Jamiica Anderson, y'all. One of y'all is a doctor, right,

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Speaker 1: come on, and doctor Anderson.

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Speaker 2: We paid a lot for them credentials.

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Speaker 5: We don't want. Let's name this organization. The Black Girl

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Speaker 5: Film Camp is what we're talking about, the black.

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Speaker 1: Black girl.

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Speaker 2: Already. Doesn't that sound exciting to you?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the parents that have daughters, Like, isn't that exciting

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Speaker 3: that there's a way to actually fist fight, to actually

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Speaker 3: fist fight? All of the the bell shit. Okay, it

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Speaker 3: is so much of it that we are. We are

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Speaker 3: not on some little island and everyone is all the same.

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Speaker 3: That there's layers and there's there we're black girls, an

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Speaker 3: Onion Toney and its careers.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of careers too. I'm like, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Really want to dive into this with the ladies y'all,

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Speaker 6: because I'm like, when one decides they want to do

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Speaker 6: a film, a film camp for black girls, how do

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Speaker 6: you even figure out what areas you want to dive

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Speaker 6: into to expose them to please?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, the burst the birth. Okay, So I had

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Speaker 4: been in this media space for quite some time.

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Speaker 7: I had actually started doing some work immediately out of

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Speaker 7: to talk about media messaging what we consume, like really

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Speaker 7: And so I really kind of found my way, you know,

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Speaker 7: we're not knowing is helping us unpack the content we're consuming.

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Speaker 4: And really really think about how it's.

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Speaker 7: Influencing our lives and how we engage and how we

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Speaker 4: But needles to say, been in this space for a

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Speaker 7: Creating youth programming, but it wasn't until I went into

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Speaker 7: pursuing my PhD that I started doing research and I

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Speaker 7: wanted to hone in on black girls specifically, and of

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Speaker 7: course I started learning about a lot of the disparities

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Speaker 7: instruction and with literacy, Black girls have the lowest literacy

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Speaker 7: proficiency rate in our country out of their gender peer group.

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Speaker 7: Black boys a number one. Yeah, so black boys is

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Speaker 7: number one, but out of the gender peer group black girls.

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Speaker 7: So black boys then black girls. If you're looking at

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Speaker 7: everyone but gender peer group, I situate out of all girls,

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Speaker 7: black girls have the lowest.

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Speaker 4: Okay, black boys, I think eleven.

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Speaker 7: Percent are passing their reading tests and nineteen percent of

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Speaker 7: black girls are passing their beatings.

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Speaker 4: So then when you look at tech proficiency, same thing.

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Speaker 7: Black boys number one, black girls number two, but out

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Speaker 7: of their gender peer group, they're the lowest. So you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm doing this work with media, and of course we

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Speaker 7: already knew there's issues with representation, you know, but then

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Speaker 7: filmmakers in the industry.

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Speaker 4: So it was to me it was a no brainer.

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Speaker 4: We gotta do something about this, and there's.

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Speaker 7: A there's an opportunity here to really bridge the gap

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Speaker 7: between literacy in store because we have literacy rich lives

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Speaker 7: it might not be reflected in your eccentric curriculum that

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Speaker 7: we're seeing in schools, but we have stories and we

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Speaker 7: engage in literacyes in different ways than what they have

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Speaker 7: packaged and program for us to learn in school.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I gotta stop you. I gotta stop you.

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Speaker 2: Please please reiterate this.

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Speaker 1: We engage in literacies definitely, man, Definitely. The reason why

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Speaker 1: I had to stop you there is because I need

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Speaker 1: people to hear this. There is a very specific way

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Speaker 1: in which we are told that our children must learn

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Speaker 1: and be literate.

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Speaker 2: It is very eurocentric.

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Speaker 1: It is not indicative of the multiple ways that we

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Speaker 1: are already proficient. That we're already proficient, right, So instead

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Speaker 1: of instead of letting us know that those things are

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Speaker 1: valid and validating those proficiencies, we put them into other

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Speaker 2: So I'm very clear, I want to make sure.

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Speaker 1: That this pH I ain't got no PhD.

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Speaker 7: But had said, yes, there's a thing now called black

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Speaker 7: girl literacy, so I got to just even shot shot

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Speaker 7: that out the there's a field, a field called black

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Speaker 7: girl literacyes. The ways in which we know are the

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Speaker 7: ways in which we make meaning. Understanding the importance of

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Speaker 7: multimodal texts, like I have to have workshops with people

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Speaker 7: and say, you know, yeah, three year olds are reading.

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Speaker 7: When I see those McDonald archers, that's that's a symbol

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Speaker 7: that means something, that means McDonald's before. They're not a

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Speaker 7: spell it, it still is. There's different modes of text.

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Speaker 7: There's visual, there's oral, there's gestural. Our gestures is literacy.

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Speaker 7: So just understanding that there's different ways in which we

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Speaker 4: That's a part of Black girls literacies.

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Speaker 7: Me using my hands right now when I do this,

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Speaker 7: that means something, right, So there's different different ways in

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Speaker 7: which we make meaning. And so I really became really

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Speaker 7: passionate about that, like, Okay, how do how can I

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Speaker 7: center Black girls literacies? Our stories that have been historically marginalized,

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Speaker 7: our stories that are not being captured by us. I

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Speaker 7: think it's really interesting. Even when we first pitch Black

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Speaker 7: Girls Film Camp for girls to come in and pitch

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Speaker 7: their stories, they want to tell a lot. I don't

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Speaker 7: want to tell stories about black boys. They main subject

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Speaker 7: in characters a black boy. I'm like, no, baby girl

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Speaker 7: we sent to black girls in this space. Your film

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Speaker 7: topic need to be about a black girl.

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Speaker 1: One more thing, I want to make sure that people

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Speaker 1: didn't miss this, Okay, don't miss this part that when

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Speaker 1: black girls have an opportunity to tell a story. Oh listen,

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. We have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: tell a story. Can you tell our stories about but

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Speaker 2: When the brother Yeah, but why don't.

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Speaker 5: We got that?

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Speaker 4: But in the camp, this is enough. It keeps getting better.

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Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie. Keep getting better. I wish I

446
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Speaker 4: was in the camp, right.

447
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Speaker 7: So we have amazing black women that also service their advisor.

448
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Speaker 7: So we have granted those women that come in they

449
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Speaker 7: have an advisor over there. So we have a post advisor,

450
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Speaker 7: post production advisor, and a production advisor, post our post

451
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Speaker 7: production advisor.

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Speaker 4: She has an OSCAR.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

454
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Speaker 7: And you know, she was on everything everywhere, all at once,

455
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Speaker 7: and you know, like all of these amazing you know,

456
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Speaker 7: she's first black woman editor in the NBA, and so

457
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Speaker 7: she's our post production and then we have a production advisor.

458
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Speaker 4: These are women that are in in the industry that

459
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Speaker 4: come in.

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Speaker 6: Literally, as you were talking, I was like, I was

461
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Speaker 6: sitting here thinking, I'm about to volunteer my girlfriend who's

462
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Speaker 6: an AFI graduate that's been working on the administrative side,

463
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Speaker 6: because I think a lot of times people don't understand

464
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Speaker 6: the way budgets and things like that come together too.

465
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Speaker 5: So she does all that stuff for like a lot

466
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Speaker 5: of major shows.

467
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Speaker 4: I was just like, bring it out.

468
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Speaker 5: Okay, I got it, I got it.

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Speaker 7: So they're getting mentored, those black women creators are getting

470
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Speaker 7: mentored by industry because they're that's their supervisor for the

471
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Speaker 7: work that they're doing with the girls.

472
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Speaker 4: So that's how that works.

473
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Speaker 1: And so what we're doing is a very real trajectory.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times in creative spaces, there is not

475
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Speaker 1: a space where people can have like like I said,

476
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Speaker 1: there's not it's not trajectory driven where it's like, Okay,

477
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this one experience. And even in

478
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Speaker 1: sports like I have my kids were in sports, Okay, yeah,

479
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Speaker 1: you go and you do au or you do da

480
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Speaker 1: da da da da. But it's just like sometimes you

481
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Speaker 1: need that consistent mentorship so people can so that young

482
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Speaker 1: people can actually see what their life could be like.

483
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Speaker 6: And a holistic idea of this industry and what they're doing.

484
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Speaker 6: Because that's why I wanted to make sure that while

485
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Speaker 6: writers and directors, but they still know how things get made,

486
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean, like how what what where

487
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Speaker 6: writers are in the big scheme of things and yeah, yeah,

488
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Speaker 6: we're saying writers a lot and is making me nervous saying.

489
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Speaker 1: Y'all, I know, but please, y'all, I want you to

490
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Speaker 1: speak on what happens during the camp sessions.

491
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Speaker 2: Yes, because these are serious.

492
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Speaker 4: Yeah. So we have a slate of women speakers that

493
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Speaker 4: come in.

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Speaker 7: I mean, these girls have heard from Gina Prince byfe Wood,

495
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Speaker 7: she came in, y'all were talking about earlier.

496
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Speaker 4: They have women that are in the.

497
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Speaker 7: Industry like Connie Orlando, who's over you know, with BT

498
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Speaker 7: and they're coming in and they're doing workshops with them.

499
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Speaker 7: I mean, I think we had over fifty black women

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Speaker 7: in the industry, Like, these are showrunners. These are the

501
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Speaker 7: writers on these TV shows that were watching. We we

502
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Speaker 7: had we just had what's my girl Name?

503
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Speaker 4: Yesterday r.

504
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Speaker 7: Karen Parson's old Hillary. She all she writes now the

505
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Speaker 7: old school Hillary. And we had the showrunner.

506
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Speaker 1: For bel Air, yes, for the original Hilary Hillary.

507
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Speaker 4: And we had the showrunner now for bel Air the show.

508
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the showrunner Belair is a black woman.

509
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Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, so yeah, real.

510
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Speaker 6: Quick, real quick, because people hear that. Civilians hear the

511
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Speaker 6: words showrunner, they know it's a big deal. They think

512
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Speaker 6: about Shonda Rhimes, that's.

513
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Speaker 5: A black woman. Literally, do y'all.

514
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Speaker 6: I'm sure y'all have some small numbers about how many

515
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Speaker 6: black women are showrunners in this business.

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah, once again, the numbers are extremely low.

517
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Speaker 7: I mean behind the scenes you're literally talking about under

518
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Speaker 7: five percent. But I will tell you a lot of

519
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 7: black women there's more opportunities with them to get in

520
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 7: into the TV industry than in the film with getting

521
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Speaker 7: onto shows, whether that's writers, showrunner, you know, directing. That's

522
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Speaker 7: why a lot of the black women directors you're now

523
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Speaker 7: seeing these opportunities open up with like thea Tasha Smith

524
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Speaker 7: and the.

525
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Speaker 4: Teary a lot of the TV with the streaming and.

526
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Speaker 7: The TV shows, but films like they'll come in and

527
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Speaker 7: they'll tell you it's I also want.

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Speaker 1: To point out the fact that we do have an

529
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Speaker 1: executive producer on this call. We want we have we

530
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Speaker 1: have a a an executive producer of a television show

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Speaker 1: on this podcast.

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Speaker 4: All right, Yes, oh shit.

533
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Speaker 2: Wants to mention.

534
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Speaker 5: That that's an executive producer.

535
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Speaker 6: And however, the show runner thing is that's a whole

536
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Speaker 6: it can't which narrows it down.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there are a lot of jobs in television and film. Okay,

538
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Speaker 3: first off, and for for anybody who's listening that isn't

539
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Speaker 3: aware but interested, there's a lot of jobs that are

540
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: really really important because it does take a village to

541
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Speaker 3: create a show. If the makeup artists don't show up,

542
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: you're screwed. If the camera people don't show.

543
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: Up, you're screwed. If lighting doesn't show up, you're screwed.

544
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Speaker 3: So there's there's a lot of textures that that are

545
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Speaker 3: really important. I personally think besides the direct that the

546
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Speaker 3: showrunner is honestly one of the is the most important

547
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: job because if you're someone or if your kid maybe

548
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: has a little OCD, you know that's beneficial quite frankly

549
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: in that position. Someone who is like serious about organization

550
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Speaker 3: and understanding where pieces.

551
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Speaker 2: Go at all times.

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Speaker 3: You have a career in film, my darling. You know

553
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Speaker 3: so many other things, but particularly in that because when

554
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Speaker 3: the showrunner is bad, or isn't organized, or doesn't seem

555
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: to communicate well with others, you got a whole seventeen

556
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: hour problem a day on your hands, and those days

557
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: can be exceptionally brutal. They don't have to be if

558
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Speaker 3: you know what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: What's the sister that's a showrunner for all the power

560
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Speaker 6: series because I know she. I can only imagine Courtney Camp,

561
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Speaker 6: good God, Courtney Camp the things and just for all

562
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Speaker 6: those powers properties, like I said, and they're not I know,

563
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Speaker 6: they're not a lot of Courtney Camps. So I'm like

564
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Speaker 6: when I when we know them, I know, we got

565
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Speaker 6: to say their names when it comes to like.

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Speaker 1: I want to mention this thing, g that the amount

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Speaker 1: of growth for this program in just two three years

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Speaker 1: now two.

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Speaker 4: Years is an organization as an organization years the camp.

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Speaker 2: Actually right, you know too.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just phenomenal, you know, And I'm very.

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Speaker 2: Glad you say that it's scary.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you all are

574
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Speaker 1: very serious about making sure stays the same with all

575
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Speaker 1: the change and all of the opportunity and all of

576
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Speaker 1: this growth.

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Speaker 2: What are what is this? What is like.

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Speaker 1: The Black Girl film Camp, like mantra, the thing that

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Speaker 1: you will always keep as as a central goal.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, I feel like I've been talking a lot, so

581
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Speaker 7: you want to take this one.

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Speaker 4: We definitely want to keep it very intimate.

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Speaker 7: And the thing that is very important to us is

584
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Speaker 7: I know you spoke earlier about having to pay for

585
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Speaker 7: all the different camps and stuff like that this camp

586
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Speaker 7: is completely free.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we said that this camp is completely

588
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Speaker 4: free to all of the girls that are that are

589
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Speaker 4: a kid, and so that is something we do not

590
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Speaker 4: want to lose.

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Speaker 9: We don't want to take that away because I think

592
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Speaker 9: that's something else that makes us very unique.

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Speaker 4: Because when you think about and you talk about all

594
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Speaker 4: the great.

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Speaker 9: Things and experiences and all the opportunities and just every

596
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Speaker 9: everything about this organization, you know, people would think like

597
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Speaker 9: how much it comes.

598
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: You know, it costs the girls nothing.

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Speaker 9: When we say that we're creating this space for them,

600
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Speaker 9: that this was created for them.

601
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Speaker 4: It was for them.

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Speaker 9: We don't want them to They don't have to come

603
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Speaker 9: out of the pocket for anything.

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Speaker 4: Everything.

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Speaker 9: All of these opportunities are just building the relationships. I

606
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Speaker 9: think that is key is that we maintain a free

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Speaker 9: program for the girls.

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Speaker 4: And that's why we like to keep it intimate and

609
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Speaker 4: then keeping on because it could be a headache.

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Speaker 9: You know a lot of a lot of women together,

611
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Speaker 9: a lot of black women together and stuff. But I

612
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 9: think keeping on, like thinking about the big picture of

613
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 9: the community and the relationships that we're going to be

614
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Speaker 9: growing that are going to go on and on and on,

615
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Speaker 9: and one day you're gonna look up and you're gonna

616
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Speaker 9: see all these pockets of black women that's popping up

617
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Speaker 9: and taking over.

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Speaker 4: You be like, what happened? Like where did they come from?

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Speaker 9: Black girls know that's where they came from. Because we

620
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Speaker 9: just we just we want to keep that. We want

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Speaker 9: to continue to have all of this amazingness, all this

622
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Speaker 9: black magic come together every year and build the system,

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Speaker 9: this network and let these girls know that it is possible,

624
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Speaker 9: like because you know, Jill, you spoke to it earlier.

625
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Speaker 9: There are so many different jobs. There's so many different

626
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Speaker 9: career possibilities and.

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Speaker 4: Found that we just do not know about.

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Speaker 9: And that's the other beautiful thing I love about the

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Speaker 9: Organization's although we focus on the storytelling and the directing,

630
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Speaker 9: we bring in women from every single part of the industry.

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Speaker 9: So those girls who do want to be an editor,

632
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Speaker 9: they have exposure to that. Those who want to be

633
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Speaker 9: into in set design and costomy, they know that that's

634
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Speaker 9: in avenue. Like I mean, even I'm learning stuff about myself,

635
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Speaker 9: like oh, I absolutely could go into There's a lot

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Speaker 9: of women that have been like Connie Orlando. I feel

637
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Speaker 9: like I am Connie. We have the exact same story

638
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Speaker 9: in life. I was just like, man, is that that's me?

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Speaker 2: That's that's all that.

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Speaker 7: Was messaging there when Connie was speaking talking about she

641
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 7: got her degree in finance, and she's said, this is.

642
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Speaker 4: You, So who would have known? Like you know, who

643
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Speaker 4: would have done.

644
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 9: But it's so many different avenue, so many places where

645
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 9: you can you can find your niche.

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Speaker 4: And I just think it's beautiful.

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Speaker 7: So I think those are a couple of key things

648
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Speaker 7: that we that will not change. It's the intimacy of

649
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Speaker 7: it and being free to.

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Speaker 9: The girls and just creating this community and having our

651
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Speaker 9: contract to editors and creative coaches and just continuing to

652
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Speaker 9: build that with the.

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Speaker 4: With the organization. So I mean, drik, I know you've

654
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Speaker 4: got some other things, but that's my I mean, no,

655
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Speaker 4: you summed it up.

656
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Speaker 7: I mean, I know Isaja was mentioning earlier about AAU

657
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Speaker 7: and I was like, we always say that is the analogy.

658
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Speaker 7: We like, this is about to be the a you

659
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Speaker 7: for black girls in Field were grooming you in early.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be right.

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Speaker 2: Back, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Are already doing so much more even you know what

663
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Then then then it's done. And I mean

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Speaker 1: because like I said, I've done a AU and football

665
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Speaker 1: and trackt you know what I'm saying. But also too,

666
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Speaker 1: I want to say this too, and specifically for those

667
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Speaker 1: who are listening who do philanthropic work or do programs

668
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Speaker 1: for young people something as a parent that's super important

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Speaker 1: to me from EDGIC from an educational standpoint, which I

670
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: saw you all impossible. That's because you have a background

671
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: of education that I saw you all address its outcomes.

672
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: I think I love outcomes, data, feedback.

673
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: So much of what we do in community lacks this.

674
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Speaker 5: What do you mean when you say outcomes ages?

675
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: So just paying attention to what happens to the girls

676
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: after they leave the program and also investing in their

677
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: lives after they.

678
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: Leave the program.

679
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: There's commitments that prior cohorts have to have to come

680
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: back and volunteer. They come back and they serve in

681
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: mentorship spaces for the other girls who are coming up

682
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: behind them. So there's a lot. So there's that part.

683
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: There's also feedback and data from parents and from participants

684
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Speaker 1: about how to improve the program, about what their experiences

685
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: have been. And so I think to start out in

686
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: this place is so important, you know what I mean

687
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: in a world where we privatize education and there's no

688
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: oversight and there's so much about all these different ways

689
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: that we can educate young people, but people just get

690
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: tons of grant money, that get tons of private funding,

691
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: and no one pays attention if these ideas are even working.

692
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 5: Some kids of.

693
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Speaker 1: Things sounds good and it's like, yeah, that sounds so great,

694
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: that's fabulous, but then it's like it doesn't actually meet

695
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: anybody's needs, and it's like and you don't know.

696
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: Unless you engage.

697
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Speaker 1: And one of the things I'm saying, like I said,

698
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Speaker 1: and I give kudos to you all for doing this,

699
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: but I want people to listen because I know there

700
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: are people listening to this podcast are like, Yeah, I

701
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: have this program that I want to pitch, or I

702
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: have this thing that I want to do, or I'm

703
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: currently doing a program. I want you to really hone

704
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: in on outcomes and feedback and grows. Yes, y'all talk

705
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: about outcomes and feedback.

706
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Speaker 6: I'm kind of curious for this last class because I'm

707
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 6: in Los Angeles right now and it feels like the

708
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 6: world is on a tilt from what's going on with

709
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 6: the writer's strike. And I think a lot of people

710
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 6: don't understand that while the writer strike is happening, all

711
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 6: the jobs in the middle are being impacted. I mean,

712
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 6: I'm hearing from friends they getting fired this week, next week,

713
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 6: that week. So how do y'all continue the motivation in

714
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 6: this special time? And I'm asking too for myself, I'm like,

715
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 6: what do you foresee?

716
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 5: Is this this impact on the industry?

717
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

718
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 6: Like where we're going from here? Because it doesn't seem

719
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 6: like it's getting I get it.

720
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 7: So many things are going through my head right now.

721
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 7: One the smoke and mirrors. We deal with that. So

722
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 7: we have worked with so many trying to partner with

723
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 7: so many organizations, and like this whole like just outward

724
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 7: facing illusion of what something is and it really isn't

725
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 7: It has been like we went into that so much,

726
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 7: and so anything that we got going on, we're not

727
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 7: putting it out unless it is really happening, Like this

728
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 7: is what we're doing, this is what has happened, This

729
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 7: has been committed.

730
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Speaker 4: We're not promising nothing unless it's you know, committed.

731
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 7: So we we really pide ourselves on being authentic and

732
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 7: what we deliver, what we promise, and what we create.

733
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Speaker 4: What we're creating in this space.

734
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Speaker 7: I think for me honestly is when when we talk

735
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 7: about the industry and what's happening, what I've learned is

736
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 7: that this project, in this program is more than just

737
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 7: about the industry, if that you know what I mean.

738
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Speaker 7: So one of our speakers we had come in, I

739
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 7: think Christine Swanson, she's a director, and Christine was talking

740
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 7: about just creatives, like when you're a creative, there's just

741
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 7: this natural being inside of you that you need to create.

742
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 7: It's not even about the money, like we will invest

743
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 7: our all in a project because it needs to be birthed,

744
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: like it's just it's it's just in our in our existence.

745
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 7: When you're creative to produce something and it means everything.

746
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 7: It's fuel just to have people believing and putting in

747
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 7: and supporting that, it's just it's almost like a part

748
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 7: of just breathing air, like you just have to create it.

749
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Speaker 7: And I think that beyond the industry stuff, there just

750
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 7: needs to be a space for black girls to create

751
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 7: authentically and to feel valid, validated, to feel value to

752
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 7: feel like their stories and they just need to be

753
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 7: heard exactly space to cry. I mean, there need so

754
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 7: much crime going on and it can't just need a

755
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 7: space like that. It's the girls and a dot women.

756
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Speaker 4: It's just but they.

757
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Speaker 6: Also want to make a career out of it too

758
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 6: as well, right they do.

759
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Speaker 7: But I think when you're when you're working with creators,

760
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 7: it's not the same kind of situation as somebody that's

761
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Speaker 7: just trying to get a job in corporate America.

762
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Speaker 5: But I'm on this.

763
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Speaker 6: I'm saying it because I'm in the hustle, because I

764
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 6: am a creator my life, and I see that things

765
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 6: are changing in a sense in that way of like

766
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 6: opportunities and you're going to have to be even more

767
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 6: creative about the opportunity, not just the idea.

768
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Speaker 1: Yes, And you know what interesting too that you know

769
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: obviously there's so many not so many, but you know

770
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Speaker 1: the emergence of you know, content creation as a kind

771
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Speaker 1: of media to be a creative in. And then of

772
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: course you know you have people who are editing, lighting, shooting,

773
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, tiktoks.

774
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

775
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think there's a very huh nothing.

776
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Speaker 5: I just said, but not right now. This ship is

777
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 5: shut the fuck down.

778
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: This is a big deal. This is his story.

779
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: So I'm just I'm literally like, how do you encourage people?

780
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 5: I get it, we would need to get our creativity out.

781
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 5: We just need to be able to say it.

782
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 6: But after we do that and we realize we also

783
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 6: want to make money because we want to be able

784
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 6: to do this for a living so we don't have

785
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Speaker 6: to have a regular job, how do we encourage the

786
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Speaker 6: youth that it's gonna be all right, you're gonna.

787
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Speaker 7: Be up collab, collaboration, building our own, building our own

788
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, y'all said, were good building our own ship

789
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 7: and say, yeah, they're to create, create our own opportunities.

790
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: And that's why platforms that have been.

791
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 7: Designed us to be independent creators are also revenue makers,

792
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? And so and sometimes that's

793
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 7: that's where the cross worlds are in life, when you

794
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 7: are were I go there, go through the publishing right

795
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 7: where somebody and I'm only getting a percentage? Or do

796
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 7: I go independently and make my money? And so and

797
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 7: if you go independently, you can do more if we

798
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 7: come together.

799
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Speaker 4: As a course.

800
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 7: So I think that this is kind of leveraging us

801
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 7: in an opportunity way to think outside of the box

802
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 7: of just kind of situating ourselves to work for someone

803
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 7: or for our created creativity to be like received, like

804
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 7: keys accept my work.

805
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 4: You know, Yes, I bring my team.

806
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 7: I built a team and we're gonna build and we're

807
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 7: gonna put this ship out here because we know it's great.

808
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, and it's gonna be received.

809
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: It's a good time, you know what.

810
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: A girlfriend of mine sent me a sent me a

811
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Speaker 1: video of KICKI Palmer, who who I just I don't know.

812
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: She's she's a fave.

813
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: Okay, So I was watching talking about advice to young

814
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: black women creators and she has said something very similar

815
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: in the sense of that she said, you know, never

816
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: be afraid to create at every single level where you are,

817
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: no matter even if it's a small thing.

818
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Speaker 2: She was just like, and it reminds me also too.

819
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Speaker 1: I've been on lots of panels and people say, well, oh,

820
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: advice you give young artists. And it's interesting because I

821
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: told my own child this. I said, Look, community is everything.

822
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: People think it's about who's above you, who's going to

823
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: give you the opportunity, and it's almost never the person

824
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: above you. It's always the person too you're left and

825
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: your right. Who's your biggest resource. It's your homegirl, your

826
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: friend who does this, or this person you met at

827
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: this thing or that thing, and kind of pulling together community.

828
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: And it's like, yes, people who are further ahead than

829
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: you may have wisdom for you, and they may actually

830
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: open up a door for you, But who helps you

831
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: to execute is the strength of the community that you have.

832
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Speaker 1: And that's kind of what Kiki Palmer was saying, was that, look,

833
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: your biggest resources, who can help you to make it

834
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: happen at the level where you are and that and

835
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Speaker 1: I feel like for us and particularly with black women,

836
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: this is a thing we have always understood. This is

837
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: something that we always have known. This is also a

838
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: practice that we've always done. And even though they threatened

839
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: to take away certain things in spaces and those spaces

840
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: get threatened, we're always at the bottom of those spaces anyway, and.

841
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: So we're already Yeah.

842
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: That's that's that's you know. It started off like a

843
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: you know, something free for the internet, you know, yeah,

844
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: but the consistency of it, ooh, consistency you know, creating

845
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: something and being intentional about it, like on a regular basis.

846
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: I know, the AGA and myself, you know, we definitely

847
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: did those those thirty two dollars gigs, you know, because

848
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: we wanted to Yes, you know, because we wanted to perform.

849
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes you won't make any money, you know,

850
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 3: sometimes it'll just be enough to put in your gas

851
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: tank or to buy your transpass to get where you're going.

852
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: But you know, if it's something that you really want

853
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: to do, you find your ways, you continue to do it.

854
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: You don't give up.

855
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: And you know that ad position on television shows and films,

856
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: that person that goes and gets your coffee or brings

857
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: you your breakfast. You're in the space. It's not a

858
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: glamorous job. You're going to be there before everybody is,

859
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: you're going to leave after everybody leaves. But at the

860
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: entire time you have the opportunity to see how things work,

861
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: how you like it, how you don't, what you'll do

862
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: that's similar to what they're doing, and what you will not.

863
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: It's actually really beneficial to get on that lot or

864
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: to stand outside that video and watch how things are done.

865
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Speaker 1: If this is what you want to do, and for

866
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Speaker 1: your directors or writers or actors.

867
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to reinvent yourself in the middle too.

868
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get where you're going and you're you have

869
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: an established career, very much like a lot of these

870
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: writers that are on strike right now, you get to

871
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: a space where you where you want to be and

872
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: you're forced.

873
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: To reinvent yourself. You're forced to.

874
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Re enter into a space and recreate something new. And

875
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: you can't be afraid then either. Because that was one

876
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: thing that Keikeith Palmer was talking about, was like she

877
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: can keep Palmer ch how she's been working since you

878
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: five years old.

879
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: But she was like, you know, I ain't had nothing

880
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 2: to do. I ain't had no jobs.

881
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: So I started creating content on my Instagram page and

882
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: these little skits turn into a Facebook watch series, and

883
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: that series turned into a daytime Emmy, and that daytime

884
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: Emmy turned into an opportunity to be on daytime television

885
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: as a host. And these were none of these gigs

886
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: did she have prior to that time that she had

887
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: where she was just sitting there doing skits on her

888
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: Instagram page.

889
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: So I think those things applied.

890
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 6: That formula changes now though it's a small part of

891
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 6: that formula that changes. That means that now you consistently

892
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 6: make that content for yourself. At that part where she

893
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: got on the Today's Show, when she's a part of

894
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 6: the three, I think that where we're going to that

895
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 6: part is ending what doctor Jamika said, it's really about

896
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 6: building on independence, because that's what I'm trying to get

897
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 6: people to understand. I'm saying, there's a part of this

898
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 6: Hollywood story that is changing now. Hollywood is no longer

899
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 6: the place to go work in a big time studio,

900
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: work on big films, and those days are over, Like

901
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 6: this is a huge change with streaming services HBO not

902
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: doing like Game of Thrones type big projects anymore. So

903
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 6: I'm with you, doctor Jimmy, because I'm trying to be

904
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 6: positive about it, and you're right, it's definite opportunity for

905
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 6: us to create. It's just now these young people have

906
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: to think double time, Like not only do you have

907
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 6: to think about your creativity and your project that you

908
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 6: want to create, but how to get that out to

909
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 6: the people and then how to pay your people? Like

910
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 6: this is an interesting different business. Well right, all right,

911
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 6: but the music business was the slums. The music business

912
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: used to be the slums for the entertainment business now

913
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 6: and the TV's like but what I'm saying is the

914
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 6: TV and the film business used to be like the

915
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 6: big man in the sky, like why and that ship

916
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 6: is changing.

917
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: And that's an interesting part.

918
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 4: I will say.

919
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 9: Listening to the women who are in the industry as

920
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 9: they come to just being in a conversation with them,

921
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 9: it's tough, like there's nowhere around, like it's not trying

922
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 9: pretty pretty it up.

923
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: It is what this shit is wrong.

924
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 9: Okay, it's hard right now, but there is is very

925
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 9: necessary and that's the thing, and it's not stopping any

926
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 9: of them from creating. We had a panel of writers

927
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 9: in there yesterday and they were talking about their schedules, like, oh, yeah,

928
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 9: we go out there, we march in the morning, and

929
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 9: then I start writing at at nine, you know, nine

930
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 9: ten o'clock, because it's I'm not stopping my craft.

931
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 7: But this is necessary. It's worth the battle. It's worth

932
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 7: the fight. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.

933
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 6: I mean, they just say they should acknowledge that this man,

934
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 6: this may last for months and this is not gonna

935
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 6: be as w as it was started.

936
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: Because like, right now, we're writing and creating, and our

937
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: house has been in a month or two.

938
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Speaker 6: We're going to have to figure out how we're eating

939
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 6: exactly exactly.

940
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: And so they're they're acknowledging it.

941
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 9: So it's owning it, being real with it, and just saying, Okay,

942
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 9: let's not kind of you sugarcoat anything.

943
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: But we got to keep pushing for like what you're

944
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: gonna do?

945
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: No, man, there used to be this this I mean

946
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: but it still is. This song that we sang when

947
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: we were kids and it was like, what can you do?

948
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: Punchingella? Punch Andlla? What can you do? Punch and now?

949
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: And shoot, I could do it too, punching.

950
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: So basically somebody would get in the middle and do

951
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: something and the next person will be like, I could

952
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: do it too, Punchanella, punchingell, And then it's it's I

953
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 3: really feel, and I believe this wholeheartedly that the more

954
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: you can do, the better off you will be to

955
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 3: have multiple places that you feel that that that suit you.

956
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 2: You know, so.

957
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: In like theater, apprenticeships and fellowships, you you you iron

958
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: the clothes, the cast closes the costumes.

959
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 2: You you hang lights, you build sets.

960
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: You they don't pay you a lot, but you know

961
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: you can survive off of it.

962
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: And I really feel like the.

963
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: More you know about the total thing, the better off

964
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: you really are. So maybe right now you know you

965
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: were doing really well as a writer. Now you've got

966
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: to find something else to do or something else to write.

967
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 3: Maybe you don't eat as much as you would or

968
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 3: as great as you did before. But budget is exceptionally important,

969
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: and consider getting a job too outside of that.

970
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: And it's it's because it is what it is is.

971
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, some people are like, oh, I have I

972
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: only have an a plan.

973
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: A I'm not one of those people. I have a plan.

974
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: I've gotten up to them at this point.

975
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: If you in the music business, it ain't no choice.

976
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: If you're in the film industry, yeah, you know, if

977
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 3: you want to go back to the back, back, get back,

978
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

979
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: I was just looking at a clip of Sammie Davis Junior.

980
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: This this this dude that went played the drums and

981
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: then played the xylophones and then did a dance, dance,

982
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: did a sang three songs, did a.

983
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 6: Backflip hotel for somebody.

984
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 4: So seriously, that's what we're like.

985
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 7: People don't even realize when it comes to Black Girls

986
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 7: Film Camp, how many had me and Sierra even where

987
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 7: right now? Like people always ask like who's doing your

988
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 7: graphics and your me and touch any romo videos? That's

989
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 7: meant right there.

990
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 4: Program.

991
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: First of all, let me say something that the graphics

992
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: is popping and I love the colorway, the pink and

993
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: the blue and disgorgeous.

994
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: We love it.

995
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: You love to see it. We're doing it all, thank you.

996
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 4: See wearing a bunch of hats on the back end.

997
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: She's doing all the numbers, the budgets.

998
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 6: One hundred thousand dollars a year ain't no short raising

999
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 6: one hundred thousand dollars a year is not a show.

1000
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: That's well, you know what.

1001
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 1: I know that's not a short answer. But Sierra, please

1002
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: just give gift. Give the folks listen, just like a couple,

1003
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: like just a couple of little gems about that kind

1004
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: of thing. Because in order you can have all ideas

1005
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: in the world, but you got.

1006
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: To fund it.

1007
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the numbers. We can get the money in

1008
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 4: here and I manages it. Okay. We got to make

1009
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 4: sure everything is covered. We have to.

1010
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 9: We're last and on the list for everything. We make

1011
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 9: sure these girls are taking care of. We make sure

1012
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 9: that there is a camp. Everything else comes the place

1013
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 9: after that. But that takes a lot.

1014
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: Of a lot of time.

1015
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 9: And part of that is like not outsourcing for an

1016
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 9: accountant because you know, Sierra's a religistics and operations and

1017
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 9: finances and.

1018
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: I'm the HR department, Like you gotta know, I'm gonna

1019
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: plug it out. I'm gona think it out because we

1020
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: need that Tenji's over here, you know.

1021
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 7: And so it's just making those calls, making those decisions,

1022
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 7: making sure that everything just makes sense, making sure we're

1023
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 7: spending the money in the right places.

1024
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 4: But again, it's starting with the core.

1025
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 9: What are the absolute needs, make sure the camp is

1026
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 9: taking care of them, make sure we have a camp,

1027
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 9: and then you know, we go from there and we

1028
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 9: can we can you know.

1029
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: Push and move and tramm if that means that.

1030
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 9: You know, we have a team of like at least

1031
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 9: five black women that come in and they help us

1032
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 9: on their coordinators and they help us on.

1033
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: With some of you know, take some of the load off.

1034
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 9: But you know a lot of times it's like, well

1035
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 9: we can't put that over here this year in the budget.

1036
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 7: So like I'm just gonna I'm gonna just pour it.

1037
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 7: You know, I'm gonna just take that on. I'll just

1038
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 7: add that to me.

1039
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 9: And it's but it's okay because like you know, then

1040
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 9: you know, when you see everything come together and once

1041
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 9: it all in folds, it's just so it's worth it

1042
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 9: for me in the end, you know, I don't need

1043
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 9: that much sleepy y you.

1044
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 5: Know, woman, you sound like a black woman over there,

1045
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 5: but that's me.

1046
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 4: That's me.

1047
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 7: But that's the thing though, when you're operating in your purpose,

1048
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 7: like even with the writer's strikes, one thing that was

1049
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 7: consistent about it is like even if they're not getting paid,

1050
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 7: if the industry isn't hiring them, they're like, I'm gonna

1051
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 7: write anyway like that, that's just that's my purpose.

1052
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 4: That that's what I'm here for.

1053
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 7: I'm gonna sing, I'm gonna write, I'm gonna create.

1054
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: Like it's gonna happen whether it's getting funded or not.

1055
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 7: So when the money and the opportunity you do come

1056
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 7: and the position as an alignment I got, I know.

1057
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: Here you go.

1058
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1059
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 7: So it's gonna happen regardless. This is this is what

1060
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 7: you are here to do you designed for a purpose.

1061
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: And so we won't be here always.

1062
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 9: I know we're gonna have you know, people knocking our

1063
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 9: door down, you know, and we will have you know,

1064
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 9: some more help and stuff on the back end. But

1065
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 9: right now we're good, like I'm having I'm doing what

1066
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 9: I enjoy, I'm doing what I love. And we had

1067
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 9: a call yesterday, we had to have a lasting to

1068
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 9: call with a production one of the production teams, and

1069
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 9: it was like, okay, hr department. I was like, yes,

1070
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 9: I have and don't let us have to have this

1071
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 9: conversation again.

1072
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 4: Okay to not deal with it. Okay, we don't need.

1073
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 10: More conversation after the break.

1074
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: I think having something accessible for our young girls is

1075
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: just all the things. You know. My daughter saw information

1076
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: about your camp last year and by the time she

1077
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: saw it, the deadline had already passed and she was

1078
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: really bummed. But she started to follow the information on

1079
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: the camp and when the application opened up this year,

1080
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: she was like, I'm not going to miss it. And

1081
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know anything

1082
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: about it. This is Lana, right, This is Lana. Lana

1083
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: has been on the podcast. By the way, yes, listen

1084
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: to the podcast, people who listen to podcasts.

1085
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: And what was her video?

1086
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 6: Because because y'all said that the video is the pitch,

1087
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 6: so what did Lana do?

1088
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: We're not going.

1089
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 3: Can't no, wait wait wait are you saying that that

1090
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 3: a video has to be created in order to become

1091
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 3: a part of the camp and a pitch video video?

1092
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 4: Okay?

1093
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 7: When they just talk about their film for one minute,

1094
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 7: it's a woman at pitch Okay.

1095
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: I tell you.

1096
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you after we talked about the camp. We're

1097
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: not talking about I just wanted to tell us one

1098
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: little part about it, part of the camp. So I

1099
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about this, mind you. This is all

1100
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: something that she followed that she was purposeful about. She

1101
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: wanted to do it, and she filled out the application,

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Speaker 1: didn't even tell us until after it was done and

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Speaker 1: it was submitted, and she said, okay, I did this thing,

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Speaker 1: and I want y'all to wish me love because I

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Speaker 1: hope that I get to do this because this is amazing.

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Speaker 1: And she said, remember I told you about it last

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Speaker 1: year and I missed it and she did mention it

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Speaker 1: to me, but I didn't know. You know, I can

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00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: mentioned a lot of things mentioned to me, so she says.

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Speaker 1: So when I realized what it was.

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00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I really hope she makes this.

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Speaker 1: And so when she got accepted, it was like pandemonium

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00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: in my mind interview.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, she's amazing. Like, let's just go and

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00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 4: put it out there. Lana, is it okay?

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Speaker 2: That is?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna need to text Allana.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 5: I got questions.

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Speaker 2: Well, Lana's film in a nutshell.

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Speaker 1: In a nutshell, Lana's film is well started out as

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00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: a take on the Breakfast Club, and she wanted to

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00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: do a take on the breakfast club that was all

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Speaker 1: black girls. But then it also she wanted to kind

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Speaker 1: of she started. I said, you know what, when she

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00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: started talking to me about it, I said, you know,

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00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: it just reminded me of twelve Angry Men. And I

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Speaker 1: said it all takes place in that same room thing.

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Speaker 2: And I said, oh yeah, and she said, I know,

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Speaker 2: I don't call it.

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Speaker 4: Call it.

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Speaker 1: And so her film is called four Angry Black Girls,

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Speaker 1: I mean five.

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Speaker 2: Sorry five.

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Speaker 4: She said.

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Speaker 5: That also sounds like a play.

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Speaker 2: It could be.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is that I was just again, she

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00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: has been very adamant about doing this herself.

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Speaker 2: She's very independent.

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00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 1: She is extremely grateful for this opportunity.

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00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 7: Like her level of maturity to go on another level,

1143
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 7: like you know, we hauled.

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00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: The girls accountable and we pulled it, you know. You know,

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Speaker 4: so sometimes a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: We had yeah.

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00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 7: Lina, just yes, and her response because you know, we

1148
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 7: give them a schedule. These girls, them and their parents,

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00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 7: they sign agreement because there's so much money being invested

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00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 7: in them. So they have like a memorandum of understanding

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00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 7: that they got to sign because they're getting free technology

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00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 7: beats to a sponsor.

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00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: They are getting like repairs of beat headphones.

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00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 7: Like they nice flooded with thousands of dollars of supplies resources,

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Speaker 7: and they're playing for flights. They're flying to LA We're

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00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 7: flying them to Charlotte for their premiere. So it's like,

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00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 7: you know, there's this commitment. Sessions are required, Saturday sessions

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 7: are required.

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Speaker 4: You got to be on Zoom for three It's a

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Speaker 4: three hour commitment.

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Speaker 7: So there they're having to decide now shoot time to

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00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 7: shoot their films and some of them trying to get

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00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 7: one of them Saturdays off. You signed your agreement, right,

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00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 7: Solna was working some things out.

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00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: We knew she was having we knew it, but other

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00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: girls were reaching out to us.

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00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 7: She's not the same issues, but still and we were like,

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00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 7: we got to be consistent across the board.

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Speaker 4: We're weaklings. We say a weekly.

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Speaker 1: See no stop it. I want y'all to stop stop

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00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: stop stop it. No listen, I've and one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: that is that is exactly that it has to be

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00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: across the board. Lana had disaster after disaster, which I

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00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: as a mother it hurt me. But as a creative

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: I said, My husband and I both said to each other,

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00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: this is going to be so good for her.

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Speaker 2: To have gone through all of the challenges. This child

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Speaker 2: had been in tears.

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00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: She hadn't been in my lap, she didn't making phone

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00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: calls going through all of these different challenges. And so

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00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: if so, by the time it got to like the

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00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: fourth thing, I said, look y'all, listen this, y'all the

1183
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: my child about to break down over here, she'd have

1184
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: changed the ship. Like photos. These people don't dropped out

1185
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: on the child. Now y'all talk about she got to

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: be on camp on Saturday, and that's the only day

1187
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: that she can shoot this dad on Phil And now

1188
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: I was like, and so we kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to work it out, and Lana basically said no.

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Speaker 2: I said what I was. I committed to this.

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Speaker 1: I said I was going to be there on Saturday

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Speaker 1: and being on there on Saturday, and we're gonna fix it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna work it out.

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Speaker 1: And in that moment, I was so proud of my

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00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: child because she has been clear from the moment this started.

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Speaker 1: I am going to do one hundred percent my best

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Speaker 1: based on what is in front of me.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to show up. I'm going to do all

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Speaker 2: that is required.

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Speaker 1: So I was so again, thank you guys for giving

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Speaker 1: her this opportunity.

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00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: But the bigger thank you is just thank you.

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Speaker 1: For being in these girls' lives period, for creating this thing,

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00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: for giving life to this because as like from as

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00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: a parent, as a creative, it has opened me up,

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00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: like how can I be there for young girls when

1207
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: they're trying to be vocalists or performance like it has

1208
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: opened up a.

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Speaker 2: Thing in my mind. So, yeah, I tell you this.

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Speaker 7: Some of these girls, I'm not even gonna hold some

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00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 7: of these girls are more professional than some of the adult women.

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Speaker 4: And let's just be where we had not one problem

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00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 4: with any team director we went to l A. Okay,

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00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: we took these girls now on problem but as we

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Speaker 4: have many adults, we had to tap on the show.

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Speaker 4: How many does you said? Let me just make this

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Speaker 4: real quick. I mean, not one problem with these girls.

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Speaker 4: When I tell you, they show up and give them

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Speaker 4: the best selves.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, Like we have been so so floored,

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00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 7: so impressed, Like for real, I'm about to look.

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Speaker 6: You got a new organization. You need to be a

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Speaker 6: part of Jesus. And that's right, okay.

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Speaker 3: In l Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and throw Stacey

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Speaker 3: Muhammad in the mix too.

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Speaker 7: Speak listens already started building up for next year, like

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01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 7: a lot of black women in the industry have already

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 7: reached out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and from Black Star First Film Festival.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we are family.

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Speaker 3: There is a dream, or even the idea of a dream.

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01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: If there is a hope, if there is intention and

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01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: and dedication to something that you want to do, the

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01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 3: opportunities really are there. Maybe not a lot, maybe not

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01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 3: a lot at this moment, but there are some, and

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01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: you have to really believe in yourself and go out

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01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: and look for these things.

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01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: You may have to take a job that.

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 3: You feel is beneath you. You may have to do that.

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: Most people that really advance grow from the mud. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for listening to J dot l thepodcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, ladies. We're so proud of you.

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01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 3: Is a wonderful thing that you're doing for the spirit

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01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 3: of these young girls and exciting them and letting them

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Speaker 3: know that these things.

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01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: Are absolutely possible. Bless y'all. Bless you, bless y'all, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 5: How do you eat an elephant?

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Speaker 8: One by time?

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Speaker 11: Hey, listeners, is Amber the producer here. If there are

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Speaker 11: any aspiring black girl filmmakers in your community.

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Speaker 10: Keep listening.

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Speaker 11: To learn more about the camp and how to apply,

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Speaker 11: visit www dot Blackgirlsfilm caamp dot com. Applications for the

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Speaker 11: next year's cohort open in the fall. You can also

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Speaker 11: watch all of the past cohorts films on the website

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Speaker 11: as well. And a little update since the award ceremony

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Speaker 11: has happened, Lana's film won Best Costume and the Red

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Speaker 11: Carpet Award.

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Speaker 4: We are forever proud.

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Speaker 11: Of her and we'll forever stand Lana on this show.

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Speaker 11: We're also never surprised by her accomplishments. For more of

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Speaker 11: Lana the Great. Check out our episode from earlier this season,

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Speaker 11: Young John, and I'll drop all the links for Black

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Speaker 11: Girl Film Camp in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Hi.

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Speaker 3: If you have comments on something he said in this

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Speaker 3: episode called eight six six, Hey Jill, if you want

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Speaker 3: to add to this conversation, that's eight six six four.

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Speaker 5: Three nine five four five five.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to tell us your name and the episode

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01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: you're referring to. You might just hear your message on

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Speaker 3: a future episode.

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Speaker 11: Thank you for listening to Jill Scott Presents Jay dot ilthpodcast.

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