1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Good afternoon everyone. Welcome to a special edition of Between 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers, proud 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: partner of the La Rams. I'm JB. Long. Joint is 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: always by Maurice Jones, Drew and DeMarco Farr. We're also 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: expecting Andrew Siciliano shortly. He's on another work related call, 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: but we expect him to join the panel as he's 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: able to. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thank you for being here. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Great to be here, Jabe, Look at that time I 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: have worked later on. I'm sorry I didn't feel like 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: wearing Rams and then changing again, you know, shoehorning us 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: into your schedule, both of you. The initial and I 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: mean initial fifty three man roster has been set. In fact, 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: the Rams already practiced with that group this morning, so 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: we'd like to take a look at each and every 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: position group and we thought we would attack it draft style, 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: where each person gets to pick the position group to 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: react to that he feels most passionately about, and the 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: decision is that the Rams made within. So DeMarco, if 19 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: you don't mind, I'm gonna give you the honor. You 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: can start anywhere you like, hordable'll follow your league. Oh 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: my god, there's so much to choose from quarterbacks. Interesting, 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: Perkins is interesting. Um, you know, I'll go with the 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: one that's still kind of up in the air for me. 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: I'll go with outside linebackers. Um, he kept Leonard Floyd. Obviously, 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: Hollins is going to be the earth starters, obo Oka 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: Ronk was going to be the key backup, I guess. 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: And then beyond the three that we knew, Chris Garrett, 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: who had a great game, great preseason versus the Raiders, 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: has made the club, so he is slotted as your 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: third right side outside linebacker. And then Tera Lewis, guy 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: who haven't we haven't seen that much of in preseason 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: or we want to see more out of made the club. 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: So I guess they're banking on him being a slow healer. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: But you know, if he does get healthy, you see 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: what he looks like, and he's got all the tools. 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: He's the guy you really want on your football team. 37 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Looks good getting off the bus. But that's still a 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: surprise for me. But that's that's the first one that 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: jumps out. I mean, I'm surprised by that. I thought 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: we'd see some change over there. But you know, Lewis 41 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: and or excuse me, Floyd and Hollins to start and 42 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: then Obo off the bench and we'll see where Lewis 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: and Garrett figure in. But yeah, I still I'm not 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: sure if you got any better than last season than 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: you are right now. But that's the one that jumps 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: out of me right now. You know, I had to 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: remind myself to Marco that this time last year, Justin 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: Hollins wasn't on anyone's radar, right, said, maybe Brandon Staley's. 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: And now he's a starter opposite Leonard Floyd that position, 50 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: So perhaps a lot can change here in the next 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: twenty four hours or so. Also, it's like, no, the 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: fact that Justin Lawler was the star of preseason one 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, right, We're all so high on him, 54 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: and then didn't hear much from him thereafter. So I'll 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: take it as a good sign that the Rams feel 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: better than that. Maybe necessarily we do right now about 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: the options that they have there if they can go 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: forward without Justin Lawler's contributions. But you're right, Lewis's knee, 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Obo Oka Ronco's stinger potentially has him starting the year 60 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: on injured reserve and then Chris Garrett's inexperience. I mean, 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: he's played and what a small handful of preseason games 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: across the last two calendar years. A lot of uncertainty 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: here at outside linebacker. That means said though the Rams 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: had just as much uncertainty last year on the edge, 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: didn't they and ended up with the NFL's consensus number 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: one defense. That's what I mean. I looked at notes 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: from last year and they're the exact same for this year, Like, Wow, 68 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: where are you going to get pressure off that right edge? 69 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: I hope it's Obo now, I hope it's Obo and Garrett, 70 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: because I think Hollins is your mixed down guy first 71 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: and ten second. In short, you definitely want him on 72 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: the field because he can hold the point and keep 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: that outside hand for he keep contained. But as far 74 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: as pass rushing, it's going to be a revolving door 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: until you find a guy that's going to be your 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: everyday guy. And I'll say this about Chris Garrett. Doesn't 77 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: have a ton of experience, but he knows where that 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: quarterback sets up and he can get there in a hurry. 79 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: So as long as you keep maximizing the pluses and 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: minimizing the negatives. I think he has a chance to 81 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: be a player this year that you can go thin 82 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: with that group. Well, I was gonna say, I mean, 83 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: we're not really asking much from those outside guys either, right, 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: We're asking you to set an edge against the running 85 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: game and then be able to try to bend the 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: corner while Aaron Donald don't allow the quarterback to escape outside. 87 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: So we're not asking you to be this dominant pass 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: rusher to win and two way goes or anything like that. 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: So you can go with some younger guys because it's 90 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: pretty simple there. Now. If it's someone that if we 91 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: don't have Aaron Donald, we need you to create a 92 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: little bit more passwords from the outside, I think then yes, 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: we may be looking for someone else, but for right now, 94 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: I think you can develop some of these guys in 95 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: the season goes along to get going and maybe Justin 96 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: Hollins has a little bit more in the tank to 97 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: rush the pastor I mean, he really didn't get a 98 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities last year because we're still shifting. We're 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: rotating guys with the Rams, are rotating guys every what 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: couple plays trying to figure out who can set an edge, 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: especially against the Niners last year and so far. And 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: Jay Deal, let's go back to you. The board is yours, 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: picking a position group and take us through it. Well, 104 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the safety position. I think the 105 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: preseason really solidified this group. I believe first you have 106 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: obviously Taylor rap Fuller. Those are your starters. I think 107 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Terrell Burgess is a great pickup. He'll be your big nickel. 108 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: I think in your sub packages when you want to 109 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: go more athletic, he'll drop down and play that mike backer, 110 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: the same as John Johnson did last year. But to 111 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: see Juju Hughes Jr. Reid go out there and make plays, 112 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean that that's huge. Obviously you have your special 113 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: team's demon as well. Is I just I just lost 114 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: his name? Give Tommy Javid. Yeah, Nick Scott, who's gonna 115 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: be He'll come in. He'll give you some defensive reps too, 116 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: but he's mainly there to be that special teams guy. 117 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: But it shows you that the Rams are comfortable. If 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: you can do their scheme the right way, you could 119 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: play well in games. They're comfortable keeping you right. All 120 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: we heard in the last couple of games, Juju Hughes 121 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: making big time breakups against Number one right going in. 122 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: He knocked the ball out against the Chargers when they 123 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: were throwing the ball to Josh Palmer. Right makes a 124 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: big play, there gets a JR. Reid, or they get 125 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: an interception. They're just constantly around the balls. You have 126 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: to try to find a way to keep those guys. 127 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: I think also, they're there a lot of these guys 128 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: on the back end of these other depth are gonna 129 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: be core special teamers, right guys. I gotta run down 130 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: on kickoff guys. They gotta be kickoff return guys. So 131 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what the bottom half does via 132 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: special teams. Now we talk about the starters. Fuller needs 133 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: to continue to be that free safety, that that high 134 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 1: guy to get interceptions, roam the middle of the field. 135 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: I want to see Taylor rat be a little bit 136 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: more aggressive in the open field, not miss as many 137 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: tackles as we saw the last couple years where you 138 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: got banged up and then Burgess. I want to see 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: you healthy because last year when he was playing, when 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: he was healthy, we were we were all raving about 141 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: how he could play. He's a guy that could cover 142 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: tight ends. He was a guy that can kind of 143 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: move around and be your joker piece, and so I 144 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: think you'll see more of a John Johnson roll for him, 145 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: and I think it allows the second year to be 146 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more versatile, to have more guys on 147 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: the field. DeMarco, I feel like you wanted to attack 148 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: on there at safety just he said something. I didn't 149 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: know what he meant. What's a kickoff? I don't know 150 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: what that is anymore? Are we still doing that today's NFL? 151 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: As long as long as uh Matt Gay is kicking 152 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: the ball out of the back of the end zone, 153 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: we should be fine. Right Like you could play if 154 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: you could play in Denver every week, great, we'll see. 155 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: It leads me to my pick for our next position group, 156 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: which is special teams. And the biggest question I have 157 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: on the roster right now is with Philoss of Raymond Kulay, 158 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: who is your kick returner. Maybe that's not the most 159 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: important role, but I don't get the sense that it's 160 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: too two out. Well, maybe it's Jake Funk. It's not 161 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: a major lingering question, but it is one that I'll 162 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: be curious to see how it resolves itself between now 163 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: an opening night. Okay, Johnny Hecker, we need to talk 164 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: about one of the longest standing rams and the fact 165 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: that but we're supposed to keep our emotions and our 166 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: personal preferences out of this. But I think I speak 167 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: for all of us that we are glad to punt 168 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: another year, at least before the Johnny Hecker experience ends, 169 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: are we not? No, no question, Yeah, I don't think 170 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: that was a reality that any of us wanted to 171 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: reconcile with. Look nothing against Corey Bojorquez, but you know, 172 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: Sean mcface says all the time, consistency is the truest 173 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: measure of success, right, And Bojo had some great punts, 174 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: you had some unbelievable moments, But Johnny Hecker's track record 175 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: is too much to ignore. I think if you really 176 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: say that you're about it, then this is a signal 177 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: to your organization that you value it and that you're 178 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: going to continue to move forward in this way. And then, oh, 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: by the way, on the back end, to be able 180 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: to spin that into some value, the extra punter that 181 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: you had trading Bjorkez to the packers and basically elevating 182 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: your seventh round pick in twenty twenty three to a 183 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: sixth round pick. That's great credit less need in his 184 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: entire group for taking someone who was not retained by Buffalo, 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: not messing with your compic formula or anything, and turning 186 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: that into a valuable asset, not just for the preseason 187 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: when it turned out that, you know, Johnny Hecker had 188 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: to go on the COVID list, but also improving your 189 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: future draft hopes. I think that was really really well 190 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: navigated on special teams as a player. I mean, from 191 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: really making this a tough competition. I mean we there 192 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: in Denver. You saw some of those rockets that he launched. 193 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: You were like, oh boy, you know I felt the 194 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: same way you did. I want Johnny heckerback. I love 195 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: Johnny Hecker. I think Johnny Hecker is a future Hall 196 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: of Famer. But this kid's got a future. So wow. 197 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad that he punted himself into a situation where 198 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: he actually gets the job. But I think Johnny Hecker 199 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: is more than just a punter on this football team. 200 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: He's a leader. This is not a guy that you 201 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: want leaving your football team. You've already had too many 202 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: exits to begin with and you don't want that leadership 203 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: and that ability to leave the room. So credit to 204 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: Johnny for taking the deal or making this happen, keeping 205 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: this as an option, and credit to the team for 206 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: giving him the option to stay. Because, like I said, man, 207 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: this team is built on more than just players, is 208 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: built on culture. Johnny Hecker is a part of that culture. 209 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: He is that culture. So having him back is huge. 210 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: It's more than just punny. And I'll say this just 211 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, and Jabe, you talked about this 212 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: a little bit beforehand. You want Matt Gay as comfortable 213 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: on pats as possible, right, And that's what Johnny Hecker does. 214 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: He's the holder, He's the guy there. He's the one 215 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: that keeps that room light when things get a little tents, right, 216 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: So you want you want all that there with him. 217 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, when your offense does 218 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: have when it has that down drive or that down 219 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, three and out that way, we hope we 220 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: don't see he's the guy who's gonna flip field position. 221 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: And you talk about consistency. How many times have we 222 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: seeing the inside the twenty punts? How many times have 223 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: we seen inside the tin inside the five punts or 224 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: a guy that rockets won sixty seventy yards not only 225 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: in Denver but everywhere else, right, even in New York 226 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: when is humid and cold and all that stuff to 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: change field positions. So you want to make sure you 228 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: you know, again, you want to make sure you keep 229 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: that there because there's little things in the locker room. 230 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: And I'll say there's little things in the locker room 231 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: that people don't talk about. It's the chemistry in the 232 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: locker room that the glue. If he's part of your 233 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: nucleus regards to what his position is, you want to 234 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: keep it there because removing him he may take a 235 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: little bit more than just punning with him. And and 236 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: I think DeMarco you hit on that. Let's bring in 237 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Ceciliana, who's off his phone call and on between 238 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: the horns and Andrew, just to reset a little bit, 239 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: here's what you've missed so far. We've covered the edge 240 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: position group, we've covered safety, and we just talked about 241 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: special teams. And the other news item is that MJD 242 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: is wearing a tie. Other than that, you're all caught up. Well, sorry, 243 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm like long long time listener. First time caller. I 244 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: get to see MJD in a tie all the time 245 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: at the network when he actually comes into the network 246 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: like he did a couple of weeks ago. Normally, though, 247 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm used to seeing you and JaMarcus at home. And 248 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: where is JaMarcus? I don't we have the cleaners here, 249 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: so JaMarcus may not be around. He's probably running. Knowing 250 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: how Andrew as our guests, we want to send it 251 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: over to you. Send it over to you next, and 252 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: you can take your pick. Here are the groups we 253 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: haven't touched on yet. Defensive line, inside linebacker and corner 254 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: on defense, quarterback, running back, receiver, tight end, and offensive line. 255 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: The entire offense is available to you. Okay, so let 256 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: me let me pull up my list here. Some surprised 257 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Bryson Hopkins is still here. Let's go to tight end, 258 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: although he did come on I think in the last 259 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: two preseason games, and maybe, just maybe there is a 260 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: sign there in those last two preseason games that he 261 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: grows into the role that they thought he would have 262 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: when they took him last year in the fourth round. 263 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: The micah Kaiser one is started interrupt, started to interrupt. 264 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean to make you take them all. Just 265 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: take one position group at a time. You name the 266 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: position group that that you're fascinated with, the decisions and 267 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: walk us through it. Okay, you're saying I can't draft 268 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: every position, JB. No killing me. Um, that one does 269 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: surprise me, and I think and you and I JB 270 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: talked about this after the game in Denver as we 271 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: were heading to the airport. Um, you have some luxuries 272 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: built into the roster here, and when you have Jacob 273 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Harris who clearly was making the team, and just look 274 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: at where he was lining up going back to May 275 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: in midicamp. You knewhim he was going to have a 276 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: prominent role and he proved that role. He deserved that 277 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: role when we saw him out there on the field 278 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: in the preseason. But he's not putting his hand down 279 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: and blocking any people here. So, uh, you know you 280 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: have him as kind of a luxury here as as 281 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: a tight end, but a joker, a swing player. So 282 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: I thought that you would potentially see Bryson Hopkins moved here. 283 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: He makes the team. Johnny Munt and uh and Tyler Higbee, 284 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: are you're clear two locks? That one was a bit 285 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: of a surprise for me. Have I said that three times. 286 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Yet a tight end. I see. I was gonna go 287 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: through all the positions I just started there, But I 288 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: will now shut up. There's still plenty of opportunity left. 289 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: We'll send it back to DeMarco. The floor is yours. 290 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Do you far take us somewhere else? Well? Okay, uh, 291 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: can we talk about the elephant in the room with 292 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins? He just mentioned it. I don't know what 293 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: you what you do with three quarterbacks? Is this a 294 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: deal to me made later or do you carry all 295 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: three during the regular season? But for Hortez, like Johnny Hacker, 296 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: same thing. I'm happy for Bryce Perkins that he played 297 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: his way into the NFL. He's on an opening day roster, 298 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: or at least on the roster right now. He made 299 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: it through final cuts. What happens from here, we don't know. 300 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: But carrying three quarterbacks I think is very very interesting 301 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: and looks. And I've answered this question about a thousand 302 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: times since the Raider game and definitely since Denver. I 303 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: still don't think he's a threat to John Wolford's spot 304 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: as the number two. I think it's been great. I 305 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: think it's been awesome. Look, here's the difference between preseason 306 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: and the regular season. And I told people this right 307 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: after the game, in a two minute drill. In the 308 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: regular season, a defense isn't going to send a three 309 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: man rush, as I mean, that's preseason stuff. So guys 310 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: have a tendency to look better than what they really 311 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: are in the preseason. But this guy played really well. 312 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: He played played his way onto the roster. But I 313 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: do not think, or please stop with the nonsense of 314 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins should be your number two. That is John 315 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: Wolford's spot. Everybody is fine with that, So be happy 316 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: for Bryan's Perkins, but keep lay Well easier. But let's 317 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: pump the brakes a little bit on him being the 318 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: number two. So I'll say that, Yeah, there's a couple 319 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: of elements to that that I like. One. I think 320 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: there will always be value for a Sean McVay quarterback. 321 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: That system is in such demand right now, So protect 322 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: that institutional knowledge that Perkins has gained through a couple 323 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: of years and a couple of summers, especially now with mcveay, 324 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: and preserve it in case another team gets quarterback desperate 325 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: down the road. It might also improve your chances if 326 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: you do have to put Perkins on waivers at some 327 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: point in the future, there might be a lesser chance 328 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: that someone attacks that having already solidified their quarterback room 329 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: and gotting into their getting into their game planning mode. 330 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: And then I'll just say this, dude, I don't trust COVID. 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: There's still nothing about me that thinks that this is 332 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: going to be a normal year. Put Perkins in a 333 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: separate developmental bubble if necessary, to the extent that that's possible, 334 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: so that you can hopefully avoid a situation like the 335 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos got a last year where they're starting Kendall Hinton, 336 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: because I think in an emergency situation, Bryke's Perkins as 337 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: someone with this defense that can win you. WOS go ahead, Andrew, 338 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna say I was on the Perkins thing. 339 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: He absolutely deserved to make it with the way he 340 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: played in those three games. But considering that you have 341 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: to put that quarterback on your active roster. If somebody 342 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: else had claimed Bryce Perkins, if he had been cut waved. 343 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that that would have happened, But the 344 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: RAM didn't think was worth the risk. To your point, 345 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: jab the institutional knowledge, I don't trust COVID either, and 346 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: you've seen the way looked Denver last year. Obviously we 347 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: were just there, had to deal with their COVID quarterback issues, 348 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: so it was safer to keep him then to let 349 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: him go. You look at the list, though, who on 350 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: this list might have been able to be kept if 351 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: you were willing to risk it with Bryce Perkins. I 352 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: would have been surprised if someone said, we like Bryce 353 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: Perkins so much that we are going to carry him 354 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: into week one in our fifty three. But I guess 355 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: the one thing I'll say about Bryce Perkins is, let's 356 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: not forget Seattle. Right. Seattle is now running the Rams offense. 357 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: Shane Waldron goes up there, Why wouldn't you put Bryce 358 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Perkins behind Russell Wilson. Yep, you see. So to me, 359 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I think this is a great strategic move. I think 360 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: you do keep him on this roster. Again. You guys 361 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: have spoke about highly about COVID. We know what it 362 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: can happen in certain situations. We've seen teams have outbreaks 363 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: last year, even now if the Tennessee Titans or have 364 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: an outbreak, right, So you just want to make sure 365 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: that you have everything ready to go. But I was 366 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: more concerned as if seeing you cut him and then 367 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: the Seahawks or the Cardinals pick them up, and then 368 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: that would make you a little bit upset because again 369 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: you're helping out your competitor, even though you don't believe 370 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: in the double agent stuff. M JD. Keep it for 371 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: a new position. You can go running back, receiver, offensive 372 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: line or d line, inside linebacker, or corner. I'll go 373 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: running back for five hundred, please, JV. I think there's 374 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: more work to be done there. You keep three guys, 375 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: which is fine, Michelle Henderson and Jake Funk, but I 376 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: think there's a little bit more work there to be done. 377 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: I don't think the Rams are done that. I think 378 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to address a little bit more. I 379 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: always believe you gotta have four guys available. Two guys 380 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: should be for special teams. Then you have your your 381 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: first and second down, third down guy, your your one 382 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: two puncher spil guys. Um. If let's not remember what 383 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: happened in Detroit, right, Todd Gurley, they only had two 384 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: on the active roster um the running back that just 385 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: went to Miami. I'm no way these guys I got 386 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown gets hurt and then Todd Gurley's only guy 387 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: you have left right SOE, now that's not that I 388 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: got a lot. I got a lot going on right now. 389 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: I got animals and people moving and stuff, you know. 390 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: But anyways, um, I just think there's a little bit 391 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: more work to be done there, both in the running 392 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: game and the passing game. So I'm excited kind of 393 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: see where the Rams go if they do claim some 394 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: guys off waivers, they go to the old veteran route. 395 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: What may happen Andrew take us somewhere different? What's left? 396 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: JB receiver, offensive line on the offensive side of the football, 397 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: D line off ball, linebacker or corner on defense? Okay, 398 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: let's go wide receiver. No real surprises there. I would 399 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: have loved if Tristan Jackson had made the team. I'm 400 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm partial obviously for Syracuse. Maybe if there's one surprise, 401 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: it's scronic. You know, as a seventh round pick, as 402 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: a late pick, you have to ask again, does this 403 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: guy get through waivers? And they didn't want to risk it. 404 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: I think the bigger question is after watching two to 405 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: get ninety five targets in three games, you know, great 406 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: to have him miked up by the way on the 407 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: remps dot com there to hear him joke about that 408 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: is how much do we actually see him in the 409 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: offense on offense on game day. Um, we're gonna see 410 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: him in the punt game, I think, but how much 411 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: are we actually going to see him line up and 412 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: do things in the offense with Matthew Stafford. That's the 413 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: big question for me, at least early. I'm with you 414 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: on Skronic. I mean, what an amazing impression he made 415 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: as a seventh round draft pick in training camp that 416 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: he makes this team despite playing less than one full 417 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: preseason game and not having a single target under the 418 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: lights at either Sofi Stadium or a mile high I mean, 419 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: that really speaks to the role that he's carved out 420 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: in the potential they see in him. M JD. I 421 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: don't think it's for receiver. I listened. Joe Dico meliss 422 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: is my special teams coach when I played, and if 423 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: he's a special team's demon, Joe d is gonna stand 424 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: on the table for him. So imagine having him and 425 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Jacob Harris running down a gunner. Right, So a lot 426 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: of these moves you gotta think of that third phase 427 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: of the game which we saw the Rams struggling a 428 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: lot last year. They want to make sure that they 429 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: have that Thursdase rolling and said a lot of these 430 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: guys are gonna keep because of that. Yeah, I mean 431 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: it's really six and a half receivers because I think 432 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: he quit Jacob Harris with one foot in that room, 433 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: even though the Rams that want to classify him as 434 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: a tight end DeMarco back to you, D line, inside linebacker, 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: corner or offensive line, Well, that's an easy one. I'll 436 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: go D line, Well a D of course. The reigning 437 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year, Joseph Day, I think has 438 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: a chance to be one of the better no cycles. 439 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: I think he actually was last year, but he's going 440 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: to ascend. I'm glad Bobby Brown made the team because 441 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: this is a young guy you need to have ready, 442 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: say week eight, he may be able to get in 443 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: the mix a little bit more. Being that two D 444 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: Greg Gaines is going to be here. Obviously. The one 445 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: that shocked me a little bit, Jonah Williams made the 446 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: team over Eric Banks. But these two guys were going 447 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: at it. I mean, play for play. They would make 448 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: big plays within two plays of each other. So they 449 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: knew exactly what was going on, but I've heard about 450 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams from the start of training camp, going through 451 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: mini camp watch out for this guy, so a little 452 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: surprised that he made it there. So I like the 453 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: depth as long as a Sean Robinson can bring it 454 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: and bring it like a starter, I mean, match the 455 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: intensity of Aaron Donald playing and play out with Sebastian 456 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: just today. I think that front line will be will 457 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: be spectacular. And when you start rolling Greg Gaines, Bobby Brown, 458 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams threw and Michael Hoyt a guy that made 459 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: the club. I think that strip sack, that front side 460 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: strip sack versus Denver, I mean, that's solidified it. I 461 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: thought he was on the team before, but that play 462 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: solidified it. You should have saw that sideline. Even the 463 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: veteran guys were like like like imitating what he just did. 464 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: That's a front side strip and recovery. I mean, that's 465 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: pro Bowl stuff what you just did there. So Michael 466 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: Hoyt making the team, I think that is your answer 467 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: to not having Morgan Fox. That's your joker, your wild card, 468 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: a guy you was slide in there during the middle 469 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: of a game that could take reps as a three 470 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: technique or a backup four and beat guys because you 471 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna give you. So I think 472 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: that interior pass for us just got a little bit better, 473 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: which is great. So we talked about outside linebackers. If 474 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: you fix that, I think your pass rush has a 475 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: chance to be special as long as a d and 476 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: these front line guys continue to be frontline starters. A 477 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: couple of news items on the D line, Sean McVay 478 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: saying that he doesn't think a Sean Robinson is going 479 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: to need to start the year on short term. I 480 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: R that's a great indicator. Unfortunate. Also, I wanted to 481 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: note that drafted rookie Ernest Brown the fourth couldn't find 482 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: a role initially on this team. Perhaps as a practice 483 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: squad candidate he might be able to grow into one. 484 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: All right, our list is get a little bit short. 485 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving. M Jenny d inside linebacker, corner 486 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: or O line I'll go corner. Very surprised to just 487 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: keep four guys. I mean, that's again that speaks to 488 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the versatility of your safeties. I guess in that situation. 489 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: But obviously Jalen Ramsey is Jalen Ramsey, Darius Williams. What 490 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: he did last year, he needs to build off that 491 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: and keep going. You have Nick, Nick Long or David Long, 492 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: see mean David Long from Michigan. He's gonna need to 493 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: pick it up a little bit. Then you have your rookie, 494 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: and so that's awesome. I think that's good roche. I 495 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: think he showed a tremendous amount of promise in those practices, 496 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: more though more so than the games. Obviously he's a 497 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 1: drafted guys, you're gonna keep him. But you know that's 498 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: that's a that's not a lot of corners to have 499 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: in a game where you know guys getting nicked up 500 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: and banged up. Would you at Dante or Bronte Dante 501 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Dion or Bronte Harris h Dante Dion? I thought was 502 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: what it should have been the one to make it. Yeah, 503 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: he always seen the pick number fifty five, doesn't He 504 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: like always right on that roster bubble. And I would 505 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 1: be shocked if he plays this year, if he dresses 506 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: for someone be at the Rams or one of the 507 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: other thirty one teams. M JD. We know you have 508 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: to get to your day job. Will let you drop 509 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: off and Andrew DeMarco and I will finish it the 510 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: rest of the way. Thank you, guys. I'll see you later, Andrew. 511 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: I'll pass the baton back to you offensive line or 512 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: inside linebacker as we finish. Um, I'll go. I'll go 513 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: inside linebacker here where I was going for when I 514 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: just tried to take everything on the venue. MIKEA. Kaiser 515 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: is a guy that obviously has had a hard time 516 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: staying healthy, but he's a darn good football player here 517 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: and I O'shan said that they would love to have 518 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: him back if no one claims him. But you know, 519 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking that no one's going 520 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: to jump on mikeah Kaiser. But it really does speak 521 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: to how well Ernest Jones has played. And you know, 522 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: part of me was joking a couple of weeks ago. 523 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: Then in that first game at Sofi Raheem Morris might 524 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: have intentionally hit the wrong button on the opening drive 525 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: to throw Ernest Jones in the water to see if 526 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: he could swim without getting the play calls in his helmet. 527 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't intentional. It was actually just a legitimate mistake 528 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: from a guy who's also a rookie in the building. 529 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: But he has played that well. He has handled the 530 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: green dot well, and that's why a guy like MIKEA. 531 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: Kaiser is expendable. Also, Dravivian Howard coming back from injury 532 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: is huge. Jake Jervas obviously rarely came off the field 533 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: in the preseason, but that was an uphill climb for 534 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: a guy changing positions here. But give them credit for 535 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: always being around the ball and really being a survivor 536 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: here through multiple camps. Yeah, well said Andrew. Let me 537 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: follow up on that de Marco with maybe the untold 538 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: story of the Rams summer so far, and that is 539 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: their quiet confidence in Kenny Young and Troy Reader. Don't 540 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: you think like we haven't touched on that much in 541 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: trench starters. It seems in a way that I did 542 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: not anticipate. You know, I had a brief conversation with 543 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: a few coaches, and the first two guys they mentioned 544 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: were actually those two guys, especially Reader, and how well 545 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: they're playing, how world we're picking stuff up, how much 546 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: they're they're growing into their leadership roles. But yeah, I mean, 547 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about them at all this preseason, and 548 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: I remember all last season. About this time last year, 549 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: these were big question marks, you know. I mean like 550 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: this could be the reason why you don't make the playoffs. 551 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: Remember that going into twenty twenty and here we are 552 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. These guys are established guys that really 553 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: don't have to compete for their gigs. Um, so I 554 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: think that's great. Um, I think the depth is good. 555 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Michael Kaiser, but you're only as 556 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: good as your next play, and your best ability on 557 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: this football team is definitely availability. So you've heard the 558 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: old adage you can't make the club in the tub. 559 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: So I think you spent just one extra day too 560 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: many in that tub and they feel like they can't 561 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: trust you, and you might as well get started with Ernest. 562 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: With Ernest Jones, really, um, it's not like New England 563 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: and and and Cam Newton. I'm not sure what actually 564 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: went on there, but if you drafted God to be 565 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 1: your future, you might as well get started getting them 566 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: in there. So same with him. Eventually he's gonna be 567 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: your guy. I'm gonna like him this year and love 568 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: him next year, so you might as well let him 569 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: get the reps there. But it's just a shame like, 570 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: like Andrew said, Michael Kaiser is a good player, but 571 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: this is the what have you done for me lately? League? 572 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: And there's not enough lately there for Michael. All right, 573 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: then I'll round it out with a word on the 574 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: offensive line and let you guys react one at a time. 575 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: Not much to report here, right, Like a J. Jackson 576 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: college free agent from Iowa makes it that's notable. The 577 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: Rams are fed all along though, that they trust this group, 578 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: and they didn't draft it, they didn't interest it in 579 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: free agency. Other than the midsummer change at center with 580 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: Brian Allen pushing Bobby Evans down the depth chart. This 581 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: is kind of status quo. Two news items. Tremaine Ancram 582 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: might be headed for injured reserve, which would free up 583 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: a roster spot. Coleman Shelton placed on reserve COVID today, 584 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: so his spot not necessarily counting against the number of 585 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: fifty three for the time being. But Andrew and DeMarco 586 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: like fascinating that we finished on offensive line that none 587 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: of us thought it was compelling enough to talk about 588 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: until the very end, because the Rams kind of left 589 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: let it be this offseason and trusted that it would 590 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: sort itself. Out, and yet I feel like it's the 591 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: position group that the Rams season hinges on more than 592 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: any other. Great Drew, Yeah yeah, I mean Andrew is 593 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: going to be forty in December. I think he could 594 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: play forever, but he's still going to be forty in December. 595 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: And the health of this line, JB, You're totally right, 596 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: is going to go a long way into determining this 597 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: team's future. Everyone wants to talk about Matthew Stafford. It's 598 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: the low hanging fruit, it's the shining abject for the 599 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: TV talking heads here. But protecting Matthew Stafford is a 600 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: huge part of that equation and how this group does that. 601 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: You know, Honestly, one of the biggest stories in camp 602 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: happened three weeks ago, but it seems like old news 603 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: by now. And that's Brian Allen seemingly coming back from 604 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: the dead figuratively speaking on this roster and this depth 605 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: chart and winning the starting center job. You know, assuming 606 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: Coleman Shelton is okay and he comes off the COVID list, 607 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: it sure sounded like he's your number two option at center. 608 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: That's skates. They're gonna have to make another move because 609 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: the impression I got talking to people on the last 610 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: few weeks, is that if something were to happen to 611 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Allen, they prefer to have a number two center 612 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: rather than moving Austin Corbett back to center and therefore 613 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: affecting two positions. You'd have to find a right guard. 614 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: But I'm with you. This group isn't the sexiest group here, 615 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: and it's the group we didn't talk about much, I 616 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: know on our television broadcast, but it's a group that 617 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: could really swing the season. Totally agree, And I hate 618 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: to put this on a guy, but Brian Allen is 619 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: the key to the whole year. You've got to stay healthy. 620 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised about him being the starter. He was 621 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: going to be until he got hurt. Anyway, remember when 622 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: he and Noteboom were going to start and then they 623 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: both got hurt. So these are guys that they count on. 624 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: They know. It's just the health is an issue. So 625 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: if Brian Allen stays healthy, I think the offensive line 626 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: has a chance to do what they did a few 627 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: years ago, keep the same starting five throughout the entire year. 628 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: You do that, you've got some You've got some success there. 629 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: Like you said, Wit turning forty but looking at him 630 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: you would never know. But in case something happens to him, 631 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: Joe note, Boom I think is perfect for the swing tackle. 632 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: He can play just about anything on the offensive line, 633 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: safer center. So I think Boom floating around trying to 634 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: find a spot backing up Whitworth is going to pay 635 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: dividends there. But Brian Allen to me, if you can 636 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: stay on the field, stay healthy, stay tough, and stay 637 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: out there long enough, I think you have a chance 638 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: to keep this this whold line together and gel together, 639 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: which will keep Matt Stafford upright, which will make things, 640 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, great for the offense. DeMarco appreciate you always. Andrew. 641 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: I love this time of year because we get to 642 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: hang out with you more regularly. Have a great season 643 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: on your side of the equation. Thank you. It was 644 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: great the last month to hang with you guys. It's 645 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: always I'm always flattered how you guys welcome me back 646 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: as I then go a wall for the next eleven months. 647 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: So thank you to both to you for making me 648 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: feel at home. And again, sorry guys that I was late. 649 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh God, Andrew's never a wall. He's always got a 650 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: pulse of the rams. 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