1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: From the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: voter number eighty three, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rob Parker. A very special lockout audition 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: of Inside the Parker. Coming up on the program, we'll 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: talk with USA Today Baseball writer Bob Nightingale. Also, we'll 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: talk with former MLB writer Steve Marcus from Newsday, That 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: and much more. Let's go up to lead off, It's 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: getting rocked. Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. Number One, it is a official 13 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: a lockout in Major League Baseball. The cb A expired 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, December one, and the two sides met briefly 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and uh called it a day and kind 16 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: of like nothing special. Nobody's expecting this deal to get 17 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: done fast. I do not believe there's gonna be a 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: stoppage and play. I just think this is the the 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: course that both of these have to kind of follow, 20 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the players and the owners. The owners kind of want 21 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: things to stay the way that they are. They want 22 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: expanded playoffs and things like that they saw in when 23 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: they had sixteen of the thirty teams playing in the playoffs, 24 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: and more TV money and stuff like that. And the 25 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: players want a universal d H and they want to 26 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: shorten the length of players becoming free agents. Instead of 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: having to go six years before you're free, they want 28 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: to move it up so that it's like four years. 29 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: And especially because some teams now are playing this non 30 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: competitive game where they stripped down their team and they 31 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: don't want to pay any veterans and guys are on 32 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: the wayside, and they only want young guys who aren't 33 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: making any money. So they want to kind of make 34 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: it so that teams can't play that game, and that 35 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: veteran players don't get squeezed out, and that younger players 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: can get paid faster. Think about this. Aaron Judge, in 37 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: all the years he's played with the Yankees still as 38 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: another year before he gets paid. Yeah, I mean one 39 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: more year. So I think that's where it is. But 40 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I do believe we've seen in the last three or 41 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: four UM lockouts they've lasted around eighteen twenty days something 42 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: like that. As long as uh, these teams, these sides 43 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: get together by February one and spring training is on target, 44 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: we should be good. Number two, My goodness. Major League 45 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: Baseball owners certainly didn't act like they had their panties 46 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: in a bunch when it came to the players and 47 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: the c B A and all that, because they went 48 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: on a spending frenzy. I mean, my head is still 49 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: spinning with all the deals. How about the Texas Rangers 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: A half a billion dollars on two middle and fielders. 51 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: I love Corey Seeger and Marcus Simian, but my goodness, 52 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Rangers fan, you're going out 53 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: to buy jerseys and tickets in the whole nine yards. 54 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: They got a beautiful ballpark down there. They need to 55 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: get it packed, so they're not messing around. Their payroll 56 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: was low, so they added some money and some firepower. 57 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: And the Mets with their new owner Cohen, uh, he's 58 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: not playing around. They went out adding some new outfielders, 59 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: some lumber us and and they went out and got 60 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: an ace picture in Max Scherzer, who pitched for the 61 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Dodgers last year after being traded from the Washington Nationals. 62 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: So the Mets are making noise. It's surprising, though, the 63 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Dodgers quiet, the Yankees really quiet. They haven't done anything really. 64 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: Uh that's interesting, um, but other teams are moving around, 65 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: moving players, and it's exciting. It does feel like a 66 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: kind of an NBA. I didn't realize there were so 67 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: many free agents and names and and the other one 68 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: too is uh, there's some teams who normally don't get 69 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: involved in this, like the Mariners maybe, like of late 70 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: and the Tigers of late, and they all made deals 71 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: as well. So this is good for baseball, This is 72 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: good for fans number three all right, enough, already the 73 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: accolades just keep flying the way of two way stars. 74 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Show Hey, oh Tani, show hey won the one Edgar 75 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: Martinez d H Award. I mean, show Hey, who's twenty 76 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: seven years old, has already been stockpiling the awards. Of course, 77 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: he was American League MVP. He was unanimous and uh, 78 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: you know now he's gotten this award for uh d H. 79 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: He also won um the Silver Slugger Award at d H. 80 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: He was named to the first Team All All MLB 81 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: at d H, and he also got the Commissioner's Historic 82 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: Achievement Award, So the awards just keep piling up for 83 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: show Hail Tani. No one's gonna argue with you, no 84 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: one's gonna fight you. It's was that kind of year, 85 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: and um, as we move forward, we just want to 86 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: see this guy continue to play both ways, and hopefully 87 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: the Angels can get enough pitching to go with Otani 88 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: and Trout and make a run in the playoffs. We 89 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: love to see him on the big stage, prime time 90 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: show Hail Tony, pitching and hitting and doing all those things. 91 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto, 92 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: if I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer 93 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: and broadcaster, older new Let's welcome in USA Today baseball 94 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: writer Bob Nightingale, one of the best in the business. 95 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining Inside the Park. About how you doing? Yeah, 96 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: doing great yourself, man, I'm not as busy as you 97 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: with this flurry of action in Major League Baseball. The 98 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: largest free agent contracts by total value in one offseason. 99 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: How surprised are you that owners have cab parkers. Yeah, 100 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm very surprised. I'm usually these things get drawn out. 101 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: I wish it was like this every year. It's like 102 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: NBA style, and so just with the flory activity every 103 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: every turn to get their deals down before the blackout tomorrow. 104 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: In uh in teams are trying to get the rosters. 105 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: So you know what, let's get this thing done so 106 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: at least we get fans buy in teas and tickets 107 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: to look how we used to improved our team, no 108 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Big winners, Uh, the Mets, I want 109 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: you to talk about that. Of course, Max Suer's at 110 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: three years, hundred and thirty million dollars. They've batted some 111 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: pieces offensively as well. Texas Rangers swing big. They get 112 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: Corey Seeger three five, Marcus Simeon who hit forty five 113 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: home runs at second base last year for Toronto, to 114 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: get him for one seventy five? Who was the biggest winner? Well, 115 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: I gotta be Texas Rangers, right, And they spent five 116 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: or sixty million dollars on five million on two infielvers 117 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: with Corey Siger and Mark and Marcus Simeon, so I 118 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: gotta go with him. Uh. You know met met second 119 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: making their moves. So you know, Mets are trying to 120 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: get relevant again. Uh, we'll see what happens. Uh. You know, 121 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Texas and they've had this money. They got a bran 122 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: new ballpark, and they gotta do something. They had to 123 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: do something. So I think they're saving their money for 124 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 1: the time. That's right. And now you know they should 125 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: start drawing some paintings with the people they got. Yeah, 126 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 1: they got a beautiful ballpark down there. I've been there. 127 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I was there for the World Series in Uh. It's 128 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: a great place. And you're right, you gotta bring put 129 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: people in the seats. How about the Mets insures that 130 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: do you like this? I mean, obviously you add a 131 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: guy like this. He did have a dead arm at 132 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: the end of the year with the Dodgers. Uh, you know, 133 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: didn't get the Dodgers where they wanted him to go. 134 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: But adding him to a rotation can't hurt you, ken it. No, 135 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: you know he remember he pitched out a bullpen in 136 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs two and uh he put a lot of 137 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: innings on his arm. So I think he'll be fine. 138 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's still you know, I say, young contender 139 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: all these uh, all these years later, the thirty seven, 140 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: but he pitches like the twenty seven. So and he 141 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: can change the culture and dynamic in that clubhouse too. 142 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: To ma sure, you know these guys are competitive and 143 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: you know not not to give up in the way 144 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: they uh, you know, just fell apart last year at 145 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: the Seams. Bob, how surprised were you with the Hobby 146 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: Bias deal with the Tigers? The Detroit Tigers spending some money. 147 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: They weren't that bad last year. They actually got off 148 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: to a bad start and we're around five hundred. You 149 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: like this move, well, I dear Union. You know they 150 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: weren't gonna spend three hundred million dollars on Seeger or 151 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: a uh or Carlos Korea, but they wanted a short 152 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: stop and uh there are five and six time out there. 153 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a nice move. I thinek it was 154 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: gonna be Hammer Trevor story. So you know Bias as 155 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: a charismatic player, energetic player where I think the fans 156 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: will relate to him and I think he'll shell will 157 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: help self tickets. Guest is Bob Nineale, baseball writer for 158 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: USA Today. The Corey Seeger deal, and let's talk about 159 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. They've lost people, uh people obviously Surezer Seeger, 160 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: a couple of people, just big names that have left 161 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. What about Seegers leaving the Dodgers. Did this 162 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: seem like this was going to be um a foregoing 163 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: conclusion when they traded for trade uh Turner? Yeah, absolutely, 164 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: And they had told Turner to just a stay with 165 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: us here, You'll be our short stop next year. So 166 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: remember now, and then they tried to trade Seager two 167 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: years ago for Francisco Lindorm when he was still in Cleveland. 168 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: So I think the writing was in a wall. Uh, 169 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: tremendous talent, but you know I heard a lot. I 170 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: don't think they loved his defense at short so you know, 171 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: I think once they played Turner, the writing was on 172 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: the wall that Seger was gone. How about the Mariners, 173 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: they had a nice run, they just felt short of 174 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they go out and get the American 175 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: League Cy Young win a Robbie Ray. I love that move. 176 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: I did too. I thought they get him a good 177 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: price too, and a uh yeah, they came on strong 178 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: at the end. Uh. You know that team is young, 179 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: up and coming, so they got a real chance. I mean, 180 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: they better make the playoffs after twenty years, it's embarrassing 181 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: and poffs, you know, two thousand and one, with the 182 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: resources everything they have so uh, if they don't make 183 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know next year, you know, some people 184 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: should get fired. I mean it's a joke, Bob. Let's 185 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: talk about some guys who haven't been uh signed yet 186 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: and what's the likelihood of deals getting done? Um for 187 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman, call Us Karea, Chris Bryant, you mentioned story, 188 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Trevor's story, Who's available, Nick Costiano's who's available? Marcus Stroman, 189 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: any of these guys getting signed, and especially the big 190 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: guys in Freeman and Correa. Well, you know Karel, you know, 191 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: he's a singer guy. He he deserves more than you know, 192 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: find observes more than Francisco or so he's looking for 193 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, ten years over million dollars. Uh, you know, 194 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't think the Yankees will go that route. 195 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: I think the Yankees love their top two prospects. So 196 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: you get a Envalds and Simmons or a or you know, 197 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: maybe bring back den Ggorius just for a holdover. I 198 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: don't see him to spend that money because they love 199 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: the shortstop prospects. Uh. They Dodgers, you know, and they 200 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: said terms and shortstop you know, but you know, do 201 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: they do something there and say you know what, Uh, 202 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: you only sign that you only signed for one more year. 203 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: We gotta grab a shortstop here. So, I mean there's 204 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: musical chairs and Korean story or so the last two 205 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: guys standing now, Houston is a shortstop. Houston already operate Korea. 206 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: You know her fifty million, you know, weigh light. But 207 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: when you see no so story makes all the sense 208 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: in the world in uh in Houston, you know, we'll 209 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: see about you know, strolling or something like that. I mean, 210 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: the price tag has given me a high. Uh, someone's 211 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: going to do it. You know, maybe maybe the Dodgers 212 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: go after him, you know, after after losing, after losing Scherzer, 213 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe they'll look maybe they'll lose Kershaw 214 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: as well. Right, and Uh, Freddie Freeman, is he coming 215 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: back to Atlanta? The Yankees involved the Dodgers anybody like that? Yeah, 216 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: I can't get confirmation. I think that Dodgers got to 217 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: be involved. I mean, Max Munza has a torn uh 218 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: l u c l Who knows when he's coming back? 219 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: I know, you know Freeman wants to uh shan Atlanta. 220 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: Atlanta wants to keep him. But you know, Dodgers have 221 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: a gaping hole there, and he does live an uh 222 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: in Orange County, so it's not like he's moving across 223 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: country or like the Adams family lives right there. So 224 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense for a Dodgers to go after him, 225 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, if nothing else, for Atlanta to raise the 226 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: price tag up and give him that six years he 227 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: once no doubt. All right, last thing, Bob, We'll let 228 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: you go. Uh. The lockout, you kind of had to 229 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: get here to get people. You know, it's kind of 230 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: kind of be a rub. The last three or four 231 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: lockouts lasted around nineteen twenty days. What do you expect 232 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: on this one. It's just the thing that I found 233 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: interesting was just the flurry. I get it teams want 234 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: to put their rosters together, but it didn't feel like, hey, 235 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna put the players off. We're not signing anybody. 236 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Will wait, make them sweat? Where where is this negotiation? 237 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Will it be a long haul or will it be 238 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: about normal? I think it's short hauls. I mean, as 239 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: long as it's done before February one, and that's when 240 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: you know petchers and catches February. So as long as 241 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: you got two weeks to sign guys and you know, 242 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: two trades and that sort of thing. I don't think 243 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: it's a big thing now. I think they'll get it 244 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: done sometime and only in the mid Jay Ray. They'll 245 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: probably take a recess right now for you know, a 246 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: few days. I start negotiating again next Monday. That's almost 247 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: a force playing, like Okay, the owners want to force 248 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: the union's hand, you know, to sell on the bargain 249 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: with them, and knowing like you know, they don't want 250 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: to wait too long. You don't want the players are 251 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: going striking spring training or in the season. So I 252 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: think it's just a keim and negotiating tactic. The worse 253 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: the union to stay at the table with him and 254 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: uh and see what happens. Yeah, Bob, I'm with you. 255 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: That's the field that I get you, you know better 256 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: than I do, my man. Appreciate your insight, your knowledge. 257 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Mr Bob Nightingale one of the best in the business 258 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: from USA today joining us here on Inside the Parkard. 259 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Bob, here my pleasure. Take care Rob too, buddy. 260 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 261 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 262 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 263 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: search f s R. To listen live. Here comes the 264 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: big interview. Listen headler, It's so good. Now, let's welcome 265 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: in veteran baseball scribe Steve Marcus, who worked for Newsday 266 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: New York for forty seven years over three decades covering 267 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. One of my favorite people, good friend 268 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: of mine, Steve. Welcome to the podcast. How are you doing, buddy? 269 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: Very good, Rob, how are you doing great? And and 270 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: before I'm not gonna embarrass you. But before we get started, 271 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: I was a young sportswriter for the Daily News, just 272 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: starting out in nineteen six and d Steve barely knew me, 273 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: probably by site more than knew me. Knew me and 274 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: I had an incident in the Mets elevator at Chase 275 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: Stadium and basically, uh, one of the few black guys 276 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: covering baseball, and I get on the writer's elevator to 277 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: go down after a game and the elevator operator is 278 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: speaks to me very nasty. He was very nasty to me, 279 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: basically like, hey, you get off the elevator without even 280 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: asking to see my credential which I had on my belt, 281 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: and um, Steve Marcus jumped in and helped me in 282 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: a situation that was a little tough for twenty two 283 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: year old just starting out. Steve, you remember that day, 284 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: don't you. I do remember, Rob, and I appreciate you 285 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: bringing it up. I'd like to think if it wasn't me, 286 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: it would have been somebody else. Yeah, But Steve stepped 287 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: in and told the guy, a you know, why are 288 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: you talking to him like that? And be he has 289 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: a credential on his waiste, you know. And and it 290 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: was just the way the guy did it. Even if 291 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: he didn't recognize me, Steve, he could have easily said, hey, 292 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, can I see you credential? That's all he 293 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: had to say. Correct, people are the way they are, 294 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: not the way we would like them to be. Unfortunately, Rob, 295 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, but all right with the pleasant trees. Now. 296 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Steve is one of the hardest voters for the Baseball 297 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Something might consider him too hard and 298 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: last year he voted for No One on the Baseball 299 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame ballot. The last person he voted for 300 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: was Derek Jeter. And this year he's released his ballot 301 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: not too much work in it because again he has 302 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: voted for No One. Steve, why do you feel no 303 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: one is UH has qualified for a Hall of Fame 304 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: vote from Steve Marcus Well. First of all, Robby, I 305 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: would I would say that it's not that there's no 306 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: work putting put into a ballot that doesn't have any votes. 307 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: In fact, that they probably is maybe even a harder job. 308 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: I would like to think that I take this responsibility 309 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: seriously and I do do a deep dive on all 310 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: the popular candidates. The person I considered very strongly this 311 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: year was Scott Rowland UH. And I looked at his 312 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: statistics and I have to tell you, I feel like 313 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: he's a near miss. The third third base is one 314 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: of the UH is one of the most cherished, cherished 315 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: positions and the Hall of Fame, very few people have 316 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: gotten elected by the Baseball writers. UH. And I didn't 317 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: feel that Roland, you know, I didn't feel that he 318 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: matched Brooks, Robinson, UH, Mike Schmidt, you know, players players 319 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: of that ILK and therefore he became, you know, a 320 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: near miss to me, um in terms, I know you're 321 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: gonna get to the to the players U that have 322 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: this so called painted records. Yes, that's an easy one 323 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: for me, rob I don't I don't vote for guys 324 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: that have staying the game. Um, do I have now, Steve, 325 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: let me do I approve? No, But it's not it's 326 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: not a quote of lure. But I would say that 327 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: there's a large body of circumstantial evidence. Okay, here would 328 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: be my argument to you on that. Uh, do you 329 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: know if there's anybody in the Hall of Fame? Did 330 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: you vote for Mike Piazza? Did you vote for Jeff Bagwell? Yes, 331 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: his name was linked. Maybe you didn't have evidence his 332 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: name was linked to steroids that didn't bother you. I 333 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: thought it was parenthetically length and I thought I thought 334 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: that the that the link was gratuitous, to be honest 335 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: with you, and I thought that the link was gratuitous 336 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: in the case of Padre Rodriguez, so I voted for him. Okay. 337 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Pudge is another one who is in the Conseco book. 338 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Conseco even claimed that he used to stick Pudge, and Pudge, 339 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: who I covered in Detroit, lost forty pounds in one 340 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: offseason after the whole allegations against him. That didn't bother you. Um, 341 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: I was aware of that, and I would say that 342 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: that Conseco is um is not a reli. It's not 343 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: a reliable witness. Rob, I think you might agree. Here's 344 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: the only issue I have, and and I just I 345 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: do vote for Bonds. I do vote for Clemens. This 346 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: is their last year. I do believe they still have 347 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: a chance. And last year they got basically six vote 348 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: you need seventy five. Uh So there's a lot of 349 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: writers who have voted for them, and this is their 350 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: last year. I do not believe Kurt Schilling is a 351 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame has nothing to do with his politics. 352 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest bunch of garbage that has 353 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: ever been thrown out at the baseball writers, especially because 354 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: Mariano Rivera might be the biggest Donald Trump guy out there, right, 355 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 1: but he got a hundred percent of the vote. So 356 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: writers took into your political beliefs or who you side 357 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: with or who you vote for. Do you think Marianna 358 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: would have got a Uh. Marianna doesn't wear his politics 359 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: on his sleeve the way that Shilling does. But you know, 360 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: my my problem with showing is not so much as politics, 361 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: but you know it's homophobic. Uh, there's some race issues involved, 362 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: you know that to me? That to me is a 363 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: line in the sand. There is an integrity clause. That 364 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: is that is very often not that is very rarely invoked. UM. 365 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: I invoked the integrity the integrity clause with with with 366 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: a guy like our guest is Steve Marcus, longtime baseball 367 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: scribe put in forty seven years at Newsday in New York, 368 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: three decades covering Major League Baseball. We're talking about b 369 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: b W A, of course baseball writers, UM ballot, which 370 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: is my most prized possession. I will say that Steve, 371 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: and I like you take it very very seriously. And Uh, 372 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: one of the things that I look at when I 373 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: look at people is Bonds was never never tested positive, 374 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: never was suspended by Baseball. So I don't believe it's 375 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: my job two look in and decide whether or not 376 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: there's guilt. And I'm not saying that he did or didn't. 377 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: I just don't believe that if you, if the league 378 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: were to like not count his home runs or take 379 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: away his m v p s, then I think that's legit. 380 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: And if a guy Steve to me gets busted, I 381 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: haven't voted for Manny Ramirez. He got busted two or 382 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: three times after Baseball put in the rules, I think 383 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: that's an obvious case, Well, steroids were banned e D 384 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: testing didn't start to two thousand and three. So it's 385 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: it's a misnomer. I know you're not saying this, persee Rob, 386 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: but but it's a misnomer when when some people say, well, 387 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't illegal when they did it, that 388 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: that is a matter of fact, is not true. Uh, 389 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: it was on best behavior, and you know what that means. 390 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: So I vehemently would disagree with the with the position 391 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: that that somebody like Bonds should skate through. And also, 392 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: you know there's a there's a there's a thing that 393 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: about Bonds that well he was all of famous before 394 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: all of this started. Well, yeah, I heard the argument. 395 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: What I bought that in year one. I went along 396 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: with that, and I actually voted for Bonds in year one. 397 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: But then I sat down and are thinking about, say, 398 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what about all the guys that haven't 399 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: gotten in who we think, you know, played the game cleanly. 400 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: Andrew Jones is still waiting, Todd Helton is still waiting, 401 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: Jeff Kent is still waiting. Cecil Field had three hundred 402 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: nineteen home runs are up. Will Clarke has a three 403 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: hundred three or three lifetime batting average. Those guys didn't 404 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: get in, Yeah, but I don't. But my only argument 405 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: is I don't think those guys got in because they 406 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: their numbers weren't good enough. They weren't There are a 407 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of very good players, and I think this is 408 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: where people are letting in guys to me who just 409 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: aren't up to part. To me, Steve, my my biggest 410 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: thing is if we have to debate you, you're not 411 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. It's pretty simple. My point to 412 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: my point in mentioning those players, Rob is that if 413 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: those guys cheated before it was quote unquote illegal, right, 414 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: they would have had the numbers. So why why should 415 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: why should we put people in that we have a 416 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: really on suspicion that they did cheat, and these other 417 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: guys who played the game clean didn't get those numbers 418 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: there for R and N. But this is my this 419 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: is my only argument, is that you don't know, Steve 420 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: for sure, who was doing it and who was who wasn't. 421 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: I think that's the problem that I have. I believe 422 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: there are guys who have already been voted in, uh 423 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: because and we brought up a guy who you didn't 424 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: vote for but Mike Piazza, who has been voted, who 425 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: has voted and I think his seventh year. Uh, And 426 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: there are people who there was always stuff swirling around, 427 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: but people still voted for him. I think it's wrong. 428 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: If you could tell me that everybody in the Hall 429 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: of Fame was clean and didn't do it, then I 430 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: would be more apt to that. I don't believe that 431 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: that's the case. Because there's pudge, because there's back well, 432 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: because um, there are guys like that who have already 433 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: gotten in. Let me ask you about the two new 434 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: first year ballot guys of Wars A rod Alex Rodriguez 435 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: and David Ortiz. People love David Ortiz. Now a rod 436 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't believe a rod was suspended by Baseball. That's 437 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: going to nullify him with most most writers, I don't 438 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: believe Steve you'll get in. But David Ortiz is a 439 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: beloved figure, and for whatever reason, people don't talk about him, 440 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: you know, being caught in the Mitchell report or in 441 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: his name coming out where you on on David Ortiz? 442 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: And why do you think he gets a chance to 443 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: skate more so than a guy like a Rod Well. Well, 444 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't believe that he should get 445 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: a chance to escape. And so I didn't vote for him. 446 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: Why didn't I vote for him? I believe he has 447 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: a stain on him, and and and just because the 448 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Baseball Commissioner, Rob Manfred came out and said his name 449 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been, uh, you know, listed on some two 450 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: thousand and three report that that was not that was 451 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: not clear and convincing to me, Rob either in in. 452 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: In an addition, you're talking about a guy that was 453 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: a released player. He was a released player by the Twins, 454 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he became a big star 455 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: during the steroid era and beyond. So I have I 456 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: have a lot of questions about that. Yeah, Big Poppy's 457 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: a great as He's a terrific guy. He's a great 458 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: interview as you know everybody that. Yeah, and I and 459 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: I and I believe to a lodge extent that a 460 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Rod has reconfigured his life. Another guy that was a 461 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: terrific interview, A guy that called me during his problems, 462 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: did a lot of stories on him. I kind of 463 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: like him, but I can't vote for him. Were getting that, 464 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: you know, we get to, well, what are the degrees 465 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: of culpability here, A rod's an easy no. You know, 466 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe maybe Ortiz isn't an easy no, but he's still 467 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: a no for me. Okay, and and let me finish 468 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: with this, uh as we go fall word. Um. I 469 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: respect everybody who has a ballot. There of four hundred 470 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: ballots out there, four hundred and one thing cast it 471 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: last year, and everybody has a right like one thing 472 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: that I think people miss is that you have that's 473 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: your ballot. You have the right to do with it. 474 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: I could disagree with you on your ballot, but that's 475 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: your ballot. And I respect what people put on their 476 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: ballot and their time and their energy. What did you 477 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: make of, as a guy who has voted not voted 478 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: for anybody, what did you make of Derek Jeter not 479 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: being unanimous and one person not voting for him? Do 480 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: you think that was? And I'm just asking you to guess, 481 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you don't know somebody not casting a 482 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: ballot for a vote for anybody, or somebody purposely not 483 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: voting for Derek Jeter. I mean, the only thing I 484 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: could think of there that it was purposeful. And what 485 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: I what I don't like is again you and I 486 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: agree that you know, this is a responsibility to have 487 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: this ballot, and I think all the ballots should be 488 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: should be made public and should be transparent. I mean, 489 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: I put my ballot on a Twitter and I got 490 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: one point two million people telling me that I'm crazy, 491 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm too old, etcetera. You know, I don't like that. 492 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: It's a little hurtful. I don't like my family to 493 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: see it. But I believe it's a responsibility that comes 494 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: with doing this. No, no doubt, I make my public 495 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: as well. It shouldn't be some secret society. I'm willing 496 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: to put my name to it. That is my ballot, 497 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: it is my vote. And Steve, I'm gonna call you 498 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: with sugar nut, but I still love you anyway. Um, 499 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: Steve Marcus one of my favorite people, longtime baseball scribe 500 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: more than three decades coverment baseball in New York. That 501 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: it's always great to be in the press box with 502 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: Steve and hang out and talk and stuff with Steve. 503 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: We will talk and this will be interesting. I'm going 504 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: to say, Steve and make a prediction that Bonds and 505 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: Clemens get in at the last vote. It could be, 506 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: it could be. Sentiment could rule today, all right, Steve 507 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: Marcus appreciate it. Thanks for joining the podcast. Thanks Rob. 508 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: In the words of New York TV legend the late 509 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until 510 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: next time. Rob Parker out. He can't get it. This 511 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: could be an inside the Parker to see you next week. 512 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: Save that time, say