1 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Oh hey there, folks. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: It is Sunday, February twenty second, and we're coming back 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: on here because Christy Nomes says you should totally ignore 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: our earlier podcast today talking about TSA pre check. Welcome 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: to this unexpected episode of Aiming at DJ. If you 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: can't tell, there's a smile on my face, Robes, what 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: is happening with the federal government? We change our minds 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: about tsapre check being suspended? 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Yes, the Department of Homeland Security has reversed course. And yes, 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: late last night while most of us were sleeping around 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: eleven pm Eastern time, they quietly slip out, Oh yeah, yeah, 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: because of the government shutdown, we will no longer be 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: having TSA pre check or global entry until further notice, 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: until Democrats come to the table and actually create and 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: we can go forward in fund DHS. So then yes, 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: we do a podcast. People are freaking out, lax. We've 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: got some reports was in absolute chaos and turmoil, and suddenly, 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: following an outcry from passengers, the airlines actually released a 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: very effective statement. 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 4: They just kind of said never mind. About twelve hours later. 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't get much of an explanation. I haven't 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: seen yet at this point. But folks, this was a 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: very very big deal for this country and air travel 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: and commerce. And this was a big deal robes. And 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: you add the storm that's happening right now as we 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: look out the window and see snow falling here, Robes 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: just had the potential for causing chaos at airports, in 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: people's lives, and all kinds of things. This is a 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: big deal to tell twenty million plus people that are 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: part of TSA pre check, Oh, by the way, we're 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: putting you in the regular line. And hey, you regular 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: line people, you're about to get a whole bunch more 33 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: company exactly. 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: So it wasn't a up prioritizing anyone. 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: This was just about punishing basically American air travelers. And 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: then they were a lot of people, maybe cynics, you 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: would say, were suggesting that the administration was hoping that 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: pressure that outcry was going to force Democrats to say, 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: you know what, we're not going to be so specific 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: about the restrictions we want on ice agents, because. 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: That is what this is all about. This literally what 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: we have been dealing with in. 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: Terms of the government shutdown and this back and forth 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: over TSA PreCheck and air travel and funding. Part of 45 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: the government is all over the situation in Minneapolis. 46 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: And they are not missing a single paycheck. Please everybody, 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm just that reminder. This fight is over ICE funding. 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 2: Democrats want reforms before they fund ICE or fund DHS. 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: Right now TSA workers aren't being paid robes, but every 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: single ICE agent is wow because folks, they plucked into 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: the last big beautiful bill funding that carries the ICE Department. 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: Through this entire year. 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: So you're actually hurting everybody but ICE agents right now. 54 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: So some believe that the administration was trying to put 55 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: pressure on Democrats to remove these restrictions that they want 56 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: on ICE agents to fund the Department of Homeland Security 57 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: because their constituents were going to be upset that now 58 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: all of a sudden there's mass chaos at the airports. 59 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Looks like potentially for whatever reason, there was a reassessment 60 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: of the first few hours and the government reverse course. 61 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: This was their official statement. They didn't admit or acknowledge 62 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: reversing course. Most notable, they never even acknowledged this was 63 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: a change. 64 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: This is how they worded it. At this time. 65 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: TSA PreCheck remains operational with no change for the trial 66 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: public as staffing constraints arise, TSA will evaluate on a 67 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: case by case basis and adjust operations accordingly. 68 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: Okay, wait what what basically? 69 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: Wait? 70 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: Case by case? 71 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: That is so deeply non specific and concerning, because now 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: what they're saying is okay, So yeah, we're not going 73 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 3: to blanketly suspend TSA PreCheck, which they did say they 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: were going to do. Okay, fine, but if we need to, 75 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: if we see a staffing shortage, we reserve the right to. 76 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: Is what that seemed like? So at any point, at 77 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: any airport, at any time, you might not. 78 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: Be able to use your TSA PreCheck. 79 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: As Samuel L. Jackson would say, hold on to your butts. 80 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: It sounds like robes stand by. You might wake up 81 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: in the morning, we close your airport. 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Maybe we don't. You wake up in the morning, you 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: got a TSA PreCheck. Maybe not. It's like, what are we. 84 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: This is yes, well they say Wall Street hates hates 85 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: when there's uncertainty. Yes, roads, I don't want you, and 86 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: I have a ton of flights to book and I'm 87 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: piping down a little bit. 88 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: Baby. This is this is this is not just a complaint. 89 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: This is not just Democrat Republic. Baby, they are toying 90 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: with us. 91 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 4: We are pawns, we understand. 92 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: So this we are being played. What can we do 93 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: about it? Nothing? 94 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 3: But here's what you can at least feel good about, 95 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: because the statement went on to at least add this 96 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: on nuggets. Courtesy escorts, such as those for members of 97 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: Congress have been suspended to allow officers to focus on 98 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: the mission of securing American skies. So at least now 99 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: we know the uber elite and the extra privileged won't 100 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: have courtesy escorts. 101 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 4: Okay, that that really okay? 102 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: So the extra two people who were on whatever duty 103 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: can now help scan your luggage. 104 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: I guess. 105 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: Okay, what was it from the statement earlier? You and 106 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: I both picked up on it. It seemed like it was 107 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: pitting people. Oh yeah, to say we're focusing on the 108 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: general population. That was the way they worded it to 109 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: make it seem as if as if we are you're 110 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: putting the elites against the non elite. It was titting 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: Americans against each other. This sounds like a continuation of 112 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: that narrative. 113 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: Correct, anyone who was a don't have you ever. I 114 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: don't even know anyone who's ever had a courtesy escort. 115 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: So I don't even know who they're pointing out. 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember TSA doing it. I've done 117 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: it before at the Atlanta Airport, got a courtesy escort, 118 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: but it was from the air it wasn't TSA. 119 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: So I don't understand that. 120 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: I don't either, like you can pay for that privilege 121 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: through your airline if you have certain status, or you 122 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 3: can actually pay a Delta representative. 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: But I've never heard of. 124 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 3: Yes, taxpayer dollars going to give someone a courtesy escort now. 125 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: So anyway, but at least you can rest assured that 126 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 3: your tax dollars aren't going there. 127 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: But this caused some crazy, crazy chaos in Lax. 128 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: I was reading the TSA PreCheck briefly did shut down 129 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: this morning at Lax. They were following what their government 130 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: entity told them to do. No more TSA PreCheck, so 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: they shut it down, and they said immediately created long lines, confusion, 132 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: widespread flight cancelations from winter storms on top of that 133 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: because folks out west are trying to get back east, 134 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: and it was absolute chaos. 135 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: And so the Lax Airport actually. 136 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: As of this recording, this was just about an hour ago, 137 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: had to put this out on x saying, Despite an 138 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: earlier announcement, the US Department of Homeland Security has confirmed 139 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: that at this time, TSA PreCheck remains operational. 140 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: You see all the caveats they had to put there. 141 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: Read it again. 142 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: They wanted to assign blame and allow for it to 143 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: change again. Despite an earlier announcement, the US Department of 144 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: Homeland Security has confirmed that at this time, TSA PreCheck 145 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: remains operational. If staffing constraints arise, TSA will adjust operations accordingly. 146 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: Guests are encouraged to arrive early and anticipate longer than 147 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: usual weights, so they're actually having to put out updates 148 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: to the government's initial I mean, this is just crazy. 149 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: So there's just all the headlines are about reversing course, 150 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: about confusion, different airports implementing different rules based on where 151 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: they are in getting information from DHS. 152 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: This we have to laugh to keep them crying. I 153 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 2: guess this is a tough day, and I'm looking out 154 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: the window. It's came out of the airports. But didn't 155 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: you say, though, babe, you're talking about lax But overwhelmingly 156 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: most airports didn't make a move at all this morning 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: with their TSA PreCheck. 158 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: So I just saw that the DC Airport's funny enough, 159 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: people were checking out maybe reporters at Reagan National Adulles, 160 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: and they said, hey, they were waiting for the TSA 161 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: PreCheck to shut down. 162 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 4: They never even shut it down. 163 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, maybe they're like, we're gonna wait this 164 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: one out. We we think we know what's happening here, 165 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: and we're not going to put our folks in these 166 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: long lines. Because at LAX they said, imagine they initially 167 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: closed all the DSA pre checks. Everyone got into a 168 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: single security line. 169 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 4: I mean, imagine that at l a X. 170 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: Like when we were talking about it this morning, I 171 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: was imagining Atlanta Hartsfield, Like we know certain airports. The 172 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: idea that you would put everybody in one line. 173 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: Even the Atlanta TSA pre check line can get nasty. 174 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes it get long. 175 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: Look, they've got the TSA, they split it up to regular, 176 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 3: then they have Premium, then they have TSA, then they 177 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: have TSA with clear, then they have TSA with touchless 178 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: I D. 179 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: So you end up, you know, really diversifying your lines 180 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 4: in one Now, how is that possible? 181 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness? All right, Well. 182 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: There are reasons now conversations are being had about Christino. 183 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: This is another incident of DHS having to reverse course 184 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: or Robes try to navigate really pissing off the public. 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: And I am seeing that image of her once again 186 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 2: in that cabinet meeting, sitting at the end of the 187 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: table kind of head down and never got called on 188 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: in a two hour meeting. 189 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Rose, this is a this is an ugly one. 190 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 3: Look, you mess with people and their sense of security, 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: their sense of safety. 192 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: Certainly, we saw the disruption and the reaction to people. 193 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: To having ICE agents go into major cities Chicago, LA, 194 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: and yes, of course Minneapolis. So she's already making enemies 195 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: in that front. But then you now get involved in 196 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: folks trying to get to and from places. 197 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: Now you're messing with serious. 198 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: Issues that affect people's daily lives. And we're talking everybody. 199 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: Every buddy who travels is pissed at Christinome right now. 200 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: But Robes, the question is, and the question I'll have 201 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: for you, is anything going to change? Can she survive 202 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: this one? I well continue here on Amy and TJ 203 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: an episode. We didn't expect to be recording here, but 204 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: we needed to give an update because we did tell 205 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: this story earlier, Robes, it was the first thing we did. 206 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: We hopped on earlier than anticipated this morning because this 207 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: was a big story. To hear that TSA pre check 208 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: was being suspended. You got twenty million plus people who 209 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: are members of this who depend on it, who travel 210 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: every single week, and to hear it's going to be 211 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: shut down, it's going to impact them, not just those 212 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: twenty million, but everybody else in the other lines who 213 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: now have to deal with that. 214 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: So this was a big story. 215 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: But Robes, now another big story and another egg on 216 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: the face I guess Rose of DHS reverse course in 217 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: a matter of hours saying yeah, and you. 218 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: Just set another egg on the face of and you 219 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: said DHS. But I thought you were going to say Christina, 220 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: because now this is another public display of whoopsie, this 221 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: didn't go how I saw it was going to go, 222 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: and oopsie, Now let me try to make good on this. 223 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: So look, this is now in a row, two major 224 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: major about faces. 225 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 4: That we have seen. 226 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: Christino and Christinome obviously being removed from overseeing so much 227 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: of the ugliness in Minnesota initially and now like with 228 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: this air travel debacle, this is the debacle. 229 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 4: This was a mess today, And to do it. 230 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: On a day where a massive bomb cyclone, nor'easter or 231 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, blizzard warning, we are 232 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: looking out and it is just mass snow all the 233 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: way up and down I ninety five. You're really gonna 234 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: choose today, of all days, the Sunday after winter break 235 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: along the Northeastern corridor and everyone's running. 236 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: Get up. Now you're gonna take away to say pre check. 237 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: You made a very good point that people got up 238 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: today worried about something else with their air travel. You're 239 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: already freaked out about the storm. And I bet a 240 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: lot of people didn't know about this until they got 241 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: to an airport. Can you imagine, lax, if you're in 242 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: a hurry, can you imagine that traveler who gets to 243 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: that TSA pre check line to be told we're closed, 244 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: to a worker, to be told from a worker who 245 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: is currently not being. 246 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 3: Paid, who's probably not gonna feel too bad for you 247 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: because you have to go. 248 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Get in line regular line. 249 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 4: He isn't or she isn't getting paid. Correct. 250 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's rob and a reminder of folks Christinome that 251 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: last well Minneapolis, a lot was going wrong there and 252 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: they sent home and in right they acknowledged things weren't 253 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: going well. But it was that statement in how she 254 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 2: stood by it after what was it? It was it was 255 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 2: pretty's killing right, correct to which the statements she was 256 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: making didn't match up at all with any two eyes 257 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: that any human being had. And that was the one like, 258 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: how could she be saying this? And it was it 259 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: was so absurd, And that was the one that Robes 260 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: got her to the end of the table and say 261 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: quietly and correct. 262 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: And that is when we started using the term gaslighting, 263 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: where when someone tells you something is true and you're 264 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: looking at that same thing and knowing it's not, you 265 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: have to look at that person who's speaking complete falsities and. 266 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: Say, you are gaslighting me. 267 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: And that is exactly what it felt like this morning 268 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: when she and the announcement of closing tsa pre check 269 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: was to ensure basically so that you know, the regular 270 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: everyday traveler was going to have no This had nothing 271 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: to do with the everyday traveler. You were punishing everyone. 272 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: You put everybody in one single file line at every 273 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: airport around the country. That benefits no one except for 274 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: you're putting pressure on people, you want to make decision earlier. 275 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: And look, you start to see some of the headlines. 276 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: I know some places are more salacious than others, but 277 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: this one just jumped out Ice Barbie Sparks traveled chaos 278 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: amid petty fight with Dems, and that is what she 279 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: is looking at now. Those are the headlines she's up 280 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: against now, and especially considering that they had to pretty 281 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: quickly reverse course and recognize and they didn't acknowledge it 282 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: in the official statement, but clearly they recognized this wasn't 283 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: going their way. 284 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: God, Sabine, I'm sorry. 285 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: I always take it as a confidence. 286 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: Rose. 287 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: Well, you put it there just over nothing. We were 288 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: willing to do this to you, even if it didn't 289 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: impact your travel one bit. It impacted your stress level, 290 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: and we were willing to do that to you for 291 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: the sake of what. I don't know, if we ever 292 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: get to a point with politics, robes that at some 293 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: point all the US can look at that and say, 294 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: come on, y'all. 295 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and to see they reverse course so quickly, thankfully 296 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: they did, yes, But that just even feels ickier. They 297 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: were reading the tea leaves, they were measuring the public response, 298 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: and they recognized, oh, we're not going to win this one, okay, 299 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: So then their initial reasoning behind it wasn't valid because 300 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: if it really was to preserve the safety of the air, 301 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 3: and if it really was to consider the regular passenger, 302 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: then why would you reverse course? See that's the ickiness 303 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: of it, Like by doing that, you're acknowledging. 304 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 4: This was petty. 305 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: Without acknowledging right. 306 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: Exactly, this wasn't functional. This was this was putting pressure 307 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: on someone. This wasn't about valuing the American travelers experience 308 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: and safety as they said it was. 309 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: Because if that was the case, why would you reverse course? 310 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: What changed? 311 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: You know what? I would accept that they just say, 312 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: you know what, are bad, We made a mistake. We 313 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: called you some pain today because we thought this was 314 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: the best thing to do. Because this reach into that reason, 315 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: we apologize and let's move on. 316 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: You know what I would I would take that. 317 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: My shoulders would relax. 318 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: I would someone's admitting what's actually happening and we all 319 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: know what's actually happening. 320 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Well, happy traveling out there, folks. 321 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: We will probably be back on in three hours or so, 322 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: letting you know that they've what what could they do 323 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: that you're no longer allowed to do carry on. I 324 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: don't know, but folks, we always appreciate you hanging with 325 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: us because there is so much going these days, and 326 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: including a whole lot of Olympic glory we should be 327 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 2: talking about as well, and we will be congrats to 328 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 2: the hockey man. All right, folks, we'll talk to you soon. 329 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: For my dear Amy Robot up T. J. Holmes will 330 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: talk soon.