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Speaker 1: Start asking the questions and understanding what it is you want.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily Abadi here.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode two hundred and forty of Hurdle,

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Speaker 3: a wellness focused podcast where I connect with everyone from

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Speaker 3: your favorite athletes to top experts and industry CEOs about

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Speaker 3: their highest highs, toughest moments, and.

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Speaker 2: Everything in between.

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Speaker 3: We all go through hurdles in life, and my goal

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Speaker 3: through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate

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Speaker 3: yours and move with intention so that you can stride

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Speaker 3: towards your own big potential and of course have some

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Speaker 3: fun along the way. For today's episode, I am chatting

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Speaker 3: with Sammy Clark. She is the creator of Form, an

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Speaker 3: app that boasts all aspects of physical, mental, and nutritional wellness.

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Speaker 3: Started in August twenty twenty one by Sammy and her

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Speaker 3: teen Today, form has more than twenty thousand active users,

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Speaker 3: and in our episode we are talking about how she

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Speaker 3: did it. Sammy, originally from the Temecula region of California,

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Speaker 3: has a undeniable passion for fitness and wellness that sparked

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Speaker 3: her interest in being an entrepreneur, something that she never

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Speaker 3: expected for herself. A dancer throughout childhood before moving to

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles at seventeen to pursue modeling.

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Speaker 2: Finding fitness completely transformed her life.

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Speaker 3: She decided to pursue her passions, get certified in multiple modalities,

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Speaker 3: and take things to the next level. During the pandemic,

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Speaker 3: all of us stuck inside, Sammy got creative and that

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Speaker 3: is where form began.

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Speaker 2: Her positivity iss.

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Speaker 3: I love her holistic point of view on wellness, and

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Speaker 3: in today's episode, Sammy also gets vulnerable about the difficulties

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Speaker 3: she's had over the last few years of building her business,

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Speaker 3: how comparison seeps in, and where her mind goes when

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Speaker 3: that happens. How she manages to keep a positive mindset

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Speaker 3: and wish even her biggest competitors well on her journey

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Speaker 3: toward helping her girlies, as she calls them, live healthier, happier,

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Speaker 3: more motivated lives. Sound familiar. Really enjoyed this conversation with

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Speaker 3: Sammy and truly just so impressed by what she's built

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Speaker 3: co founding this company with her best friend, Sammy Bernstein.

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Speaker 3: I definitely was taking a few notes during our conversation,

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Speaker 3: and I know it's one that you're gonna love. Make

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Speaker 3: sure you're following along with Hurdle over on social It's

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Speaker 3: at Hurdle podcast. I am over at Emily a Body

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Speaker 3: and if you have a second, click on over to

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Speaker 3: the show notes and click the link to the Weekly Hurdle.

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Speaker 3: It's a newsletter that comes out every Friday. I would

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Speaker 3: same motivation and inspiration you love from the show.

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Speaker 2: With that, let's get to hurdling today.

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Speaker 3: I am sitting down with Sammy Clark, She's the creator

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Speaker 3: of form. How are you doing today, Sammy?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing so good. Emily, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good. You have like a great energy to you

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. I honestly, you know, I had my

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Speaker 1: morning routine. I had a good work at it. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm just feeling the Friday feels.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you like just kind of put down

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Speaker 3: the runway for me to ask you about this now.

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Speaker 3: So the morning routine, where does it begin for you?

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Speaker 3: What time does it begin for you? Give us the info.

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Speaker 1: So this year and twenty twenty three, I'm actually so

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Speaker 1: focused on it starting in my night routine, which isn't

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Speaker 1: get ready and have that cup of coffee and here

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Speaker 3: I literally was joking with a friend the other day,

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Speaker 3: Many Beverages as Possible.

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Speaker 1: It's so true. I'm like, I also feel like for me,

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Speaker 1: you doing these you know, supplements or powders whatever, drink beverages,

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Speaker 1: that be your like morning ritual that you've already chosen yourself.

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Speaker 3: And a couple of things to double click on right

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Speaker 2: And someone might hear.

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Speaker 3: That and think, Okay, that sounds like very freeing, but

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Speaker 1: I actually love that you brought that up, because when

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Speaker 1: I actually needed that consistency and that thirty days of like,

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Speaker 1: let myself have, Like a one day pass is what

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Speaker 1: Do that for thirty days is how I started. And

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think what you're really getting into here

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Speaker 3: get closer with yourself, to get closer and really be

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, And I really loved to say this. I'm

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Speaker 3: You're like, there is an intuition, it does exist, you know.

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Speaker 3: You also, in telling us about your morning routine, beyond

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Speaker 1: I would say I just changed it a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: And then obviously, if I actually wanted my dream morning routine,

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Speaker 2: Right, like a plan B.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we all need a plan B.

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Speaker 3: So you also told us that you started your journey

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Speaker 3: Now I have it in the routine and it's not

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Speaker 3: the only thing that I do. But when I started running,

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Speaker 3: I didn't like running, And so it's funny for me

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Speaker 3: because I didn't enjoy running, but I remember that I

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Speaker 3: enjoyed how running made me feel and I felt capable,

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Speaker 3: and noticing that and being conscious of that is what

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Speaker 3: kept me going back to running. So if you have

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Speaker 3: an inkling, the best thing that you can do for

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Speaker 3: yourself is at the very least yourself an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: try and then revisit how you feel. If you realize

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Speaker 3: that this thing that you're forcing yourself to do isn't

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Speaker 3: bringing you any source of contentment, then maybe it's time

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Speaker 3: to move on.

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Speaker 1: I love that so much. I might need to take

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Speaker 1: some tips from you, because I just started running, and

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Speaker 1: I am someone that actually still hates running even though

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Speaker 1: I'm attempting it. But the reason that I decided to

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Speaker 1: try it is because here was my new feelings. I

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Speaker 1: want to do one work out outside because I want

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Speaker 1: to be outside and I love the outdoors. I love nature.

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Speaker 1: I want to do something with a friend, so a

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Speaker 1: way to like or my partner like a way to

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Speaker 1: be with them, and for me, those two things that

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Speaker 1: I wanted to feel, I picked running to like connect

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Speaker 1: to and like you're saying, I don't love it, but

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Speaker 1: the feeling I feel afterwards and the feeling I feel

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Speaker 1: when I'm talking to my friends and catching up and

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Speaker 1: we're seeing the palm trees and blessed to live in

466
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, I see the beach. I'm like, this is

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Speaker 1: what I asked for, you know. So I connected to

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Speaker 1: those feelings and found actually a routine that matched it.

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Speaker 2: Right. Oh, I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 3: See both of us really resistant to it at the beginning,

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Speaker 3: but there are perks to it if you stick with

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Speaker 3: it and you decide that it feels good for you

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Speaker 3: and your body. So you also mentioned modeling back in

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Speaker 3: your early twenties. Now obviously not doing that in the

475
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Speaker 3: same way. Tell me when your passion for spending time

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Speaker 3: with yourself, moving your body, incorporating movement into your regular

477
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Speaker 3: routine became you thinking should I be doing this for

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Speaker 3: other people too?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Social media has everything to do with that. I

480
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Speaker 1: was posting at the time my modeling photos almost as

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Speaker 1: like my book, and when Instagram stories came out, I

482
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Speaker 1: started posting more personal things as everyone kind of did,

483
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Speaker 1: and I started sharing the workout routines. I was speaking

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Speaker 1: of the eating habits that I was leaning into, kind

485
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Speaker 1: of all of these things that were making me feel

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Speaker 1: the way that I felt, and I wanted to share it,

487
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to share it from my own experience,

488
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Speaker 1: and from there I just had an influx of questions

489
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Speaker 1: and girls just feeling so similar and how did you

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Speaker 1: get to where you were? And I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I could talk about this all day, like

492
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Speaker 1: this is this is something that I'm super passionate about.

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Speaker 1: So from there I kind of saw the ask for it.

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Speaker 1: And I wasn't too into modeling. It was a time

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Speaker 1: where I think it was paying the bills, but wasn't

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Speaker 1: my passion in life. And I took the initiative, got certified,

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Speaker 1: and decided to just take it all the way to

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Speaker 1: social media. So I was posting on YouTube, I was

499
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Speaker 1: doing free workouts on YouTube, free workouts on Instagram, and

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Speaker 1: just kind of sharing my knowledge for free, honestly and

501
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Speaker 1: just really getting knowledgeable on my side. And then it

502
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Speaker 1: wasn't until COVID hit. Obviously a lot of people needed

503
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Speaker 1: resources that were going to help them stay sane and

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Speaker 1: feel good in their home, and I knew my time

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Speaker 1: to step up again. I had that like gut punch

506
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Speaker 1: and I was like, it's your time. They need you.

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Speaker 1: So five times a week I did Instagram lives. Two

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Speaker 1: out of those times I had like guests come on

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Speaker 1: like yourself and kind of just talk about their journey

510
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Speaker 1: and how they're staying okay during this time. And from there,

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Speaker 1: I just really saw this community grow and this asked

512
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Speaker 1: for this place to bring what I have created into

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Speaker 1: this one stop shop. And so in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: I released form and here we are.

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Speaker 3: Something that I want to make sure that I point

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Speaker 3: out is in that story. You made it a priority

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Speaker 3: to say and then I got certified, and I think

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Speaker 3: that that is just so important again to really make

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Speaker 3: note of because there are going to be so many

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Speaker 3: people in your feed when you go scrolling that may

521
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Speaker 3: look great just like you, but haven't taken the time

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Speaker 3: to make sure that the information that they're distributing is

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Speaker 3: information that can keep their followers safe. And so I, genuinely,

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Speaker 3: as a journalist who's constantly vetting experts, really have just

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Speaker 3: this deep appreciation for the fact that that was something

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Speaker 3: that was a priority for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I honestly have incredible people around me

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Speaker 1: that were like trainers that I worked with, and I

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Speaker 1: think that I knew how they were treating me, and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to treat my clients, my girls, the exact

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Speaker 1: same way of just taking care of them and understanding

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Speaker 1: their bodies to the max. So I definitely wanted that

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Speaker 1: to be a priority even in plates now that I

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Speaker 1: just got certified, same thing. Made sure to get that

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Speaker 1: certification just to give the highest priority to everyone's bodies

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Speaker 1: in these new forms of movement.

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Speaker 3: You said that you decided that you were going to

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Speaker 3: build this business build form during the pandemic. As someone

539
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Speaker 3: who grew up with an entrepreneur for a father, did

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Speaker 3: you feel like you had that same tenacity. Did you

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Speaker 3: feel excited by the idea of building a business.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I never knew that I

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Speaker 1: had that in me. I think when you're doing what

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Speaker 1: is right for you, you're kind of, I like to say,

545
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Speaker 1: like floating, like almost like you're just someone's like holding

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Speaker 1: your feet and somehow you're walking, but you don't really know.

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Speaker 1: How was the feeling that I was feeling, because it

548
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Speaker 1: almost was like I just continued to do what felt

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Speaker 1: right and that led me to here, which is being

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. And I look back at plenty of jobs

551
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: that I had where they were not for me and

552
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: they were not fulfilling, and it was working for someone else,

553
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: and there were just so many things to that that

554
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Speaker 1: I look back on. I didn't go to college. School

555
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: was just something I couldn't really engage in either, because

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Speaker 1: again I probably was not interested in a lot of

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Speaker 1: the things I was learning. Sorry, isn't that just so crazy?

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Speaker 1: Those side note Like I have gone to school in

559
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Speaker 1: so many different ways towards you know, getting education and

560
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Speaker 1: things I'm passionate about, But in school, I literally got

561
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Speaker 1: the worst grades. I couldn't pay attention. So it just

562
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: shows like when you're passionate about something, you'll listen and

563
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Speaker 1: you'll want.

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Speaker 2: To learn, Sammy.

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Speaker 3: This also shows that, like there's no one way right,

566
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Speaker 3: Like you learned that conventional education like didn't really feel

567
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Speaker 3: like it was serving you. Not to say that, like

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Speaker 3: conventional education is not worth your time, but for you.

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Speaker 3: You then decided, Okay, but this is where my passion is.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to focus on becoming the best I

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Speaker 3: can and executing on this thing that I am so

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Speaker 3: intrigued by.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And that's what I just continued to lean

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Speaker 1: into and I think about it. Someone once told me

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Speaker 1: when I was so lost, had no idea what I

576
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Speaker 1: wanted to do. I truly could not figure out what

577
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Speaker 1: my life purpose was, what my passions were. Again, I

578
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: was good at things, but it wasn't anything that I

579
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Speaker 1: wanted to dive my soul into. And they were like,

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Speaker 1: what is one thing that you could do that if

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Speaker 1: someone page you zero dollars, you still would continue doing it?

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Speaker 1: And for me it was just me living my life

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Speaker 1: of the wellness routines that I was doing and the

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Speaker 1: way that I felt that's what I was passionate about

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Speaker 1: with sharing with other people. So again, I think I've

586
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Speaker 1: just been so supported in my journey of continuing to

587
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Speaker 1: lean into the things that felt right, which has now

588
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Speaker 1: led me to an entrepreneur, which I am now like, Yeah,

589
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Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about the things that at the beginning

591
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Speaker 3: were just like comical that you told yourself you were

592
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Speaker 3: going to figure out how to do. Oh, because I

593
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Speaker 3: have some of these stories too, so I'm so curious

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Speaker 3: what yours are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I felt like I needed

596
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Speaker 1: to know how to do everything instead of being like

597
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know and let me ask other people who

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Speaker 1: do know. I think that was something I learned quickly.

599
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Is Yeah, I felt like I needed to know it all,

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Speaker 1: especially with starting your own business. I didn't ask enough question,

601
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: so I would be like trying to build a website

602
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Speaker 1: on my own. I would be trying to, like, I

603
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: don't even know, edit YouTube on my own, which takes

604
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: literally so long for someone who's never done it. Editing

605
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: a YouTube video takes so long. And I think it

606
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Speaker 1: was just like me trying to do things that I

607
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: was not supposed to be doing. Was a lot of

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Speaker 1: what I did in the beginning of my journey of

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Speaker 1: starting a business.

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Speaker 2: So when you realize that.

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Speaker 3: It could be beneficial for you to ask other people

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Speaker 3: for help, a place that I can say that I've

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Speaker 3: been in is knowing that, but then also maybe not

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Speaker 3: wanting to spend on something like that. So how did

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Speaker 3: you manage that aspect of it?

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Speaker 1: That's so funny you said that, because literally the other

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Speaker 1: thought that came in my head was I I obviously

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like you get what you pay for.

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Speaker 1: And I think I just tried to cut too many

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Speaker 1: corners because I was started the business nervous of spending

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Speaker 1: too much in a certain area. You know, you start

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Speaker 1: a business, you don't know what's going to come in.

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Speaker 1: And I think I learned that quite quickly of you

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Speaker 1: get what you pay for. So I was hiring people

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Speaker 1: that were actually causing me more trouble and causing me

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Speaker 1: more stress of having to just do it myself. So

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Speaker 1: I think I really wrote down again, what are the

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Speaker 1: things that I absolutely love doing and I can do

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Speaker 1: in my sleep and I thrive in and I'm like

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Speaker 1: so good at What are the things that I absolutely

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Speaker 1: despise I'm not good at I need to give off.

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Speaker 1: And from there, I just prioritized what actually was going

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Speaker 1: to get the business up and running, and for me,

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Speaker 1: it was including someone to run operations. I am a creator.

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Speaker 1: That's where I started, was creating content and engaging with

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Speaker 1: my audience and creating these workouts and solidifying my craft.

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Speaker 1: And I needed to stay in that to be able

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Speaker 1: to run this business. So I found someone that could

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Speaker 1: actually run the back end instead of myself.

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Speaker 2: Instead of yourself. And once you did that, how did

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Speaker 2: it feel?

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Speaker 1: Empowering? It felt amazing, It felt like this is this

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Speaker 1: is right. It just felt so so right. And from

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Speaker 1: there that's exactly what I've done from every person I've hired.

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Speaker 1: It's always been intentional.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So talk us through then, what was like

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Speaker 3: the beginning growth phases then of the business? A timeline perhaps,

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Speaker 3: so when did form actually launch?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it launched August twenty twenty one, August first, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: One, being a year and a half in.

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Speaker 3: When did you feel on that timeline that you were

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Speaker 3: really picking up scheme?

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Speaker 1: I want to say, like June is like really coming

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Speaker 1: to mind for me, like this summer moment where I

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Speaker 1: started to see our community talking to each other. That

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Speaker 1: was so fascinating to me, and I think it's skyrocketed

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Speaker 1: business as well. Was seeing our community not just like

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Speaker 1: show up for me and for Form and like themselves,

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Speaker 1: they were then supporting each other and like communicating with

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Speaker 1: each other, which is something we really value now and

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Speaker 1: we have ways that we do that even more. But

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Speaker 1: I think that was a huge like oh shit, this

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Speaker 1: is happening.

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Speaker 2: It's really working for us.

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Speaker 3: That's so interesting that you say that, because I think

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Speaker 3: that some other people would have identified some sort of

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Speaker 3: like growth number or like through something like that into

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Speaker 3: the mix. But for you to hone in on this

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Speaker 3: fact that, like your community chatting with one another was

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Speaker 3: what actually brought you so much joy, I think that's

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Speaker 3: very indicative of like who you are at the epicenter

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Speaker 3: of this business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, I mean since I started this, it's

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Speaker 1: been community first, and I think that's where why I've

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Speaker 1: gotten to where I am and why the business is

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Speaker 1: so just beautifully organic, has blossomed because they are the

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Speaker 1: voices here and like them, communicating with each other is

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Speaker 1: also making those voices louder.

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Speaker 2: Now, how many active members does Form have?

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Speaker 1: We have twenty thousand members.

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Speaker 2: Cash just a casual twenty thousand members.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's interesting as well, because I was I

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Speaker 3: was actually super intrigued to know what you were going

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Speaker 3: to say when you said that, because twenty thousand members

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Speaker 3: of the service versus one hundred and twelve thousand followers

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Speaker 3: on Instagram. Can we talk about maybe the discrepancy there?

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Speaker 3: And like what that makes you think?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. This is something we talk

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Speaker 1: about as a squad quite often. And then myself like

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Speaker 1: almost you know, a half a million across or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: a million across all the different socials. I wish I

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Speaker 1: had like a better answer, because again, we debate this

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Speaker 1: quite often too. I think it's people being ready for

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Speaker 1: that commitment, because when I talk to our community, let's

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Speaker 1: say that's not a part of it. They are still

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Speaker 1: feeding off of the free content. So it's the YouTube videos,

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Speaker 1: the lives, anything that's like that free moment out there.

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Speaker 1: And I tell people that when they are ready to

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Speaker 1: put the money down is like when the commitment starts

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Speaker 1: in the sense that we have the programs ready for

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Speaker 1: you to take it to the next level. We have

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Speaker 1: the food ready for you to take it to the

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Speaker 1: next level. And I think until someone really feels like

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Speaker 1: that's what they need, then they are good with like

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Speaker 1: the way that they are committing.

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Speaker 3: I think that that kind of holds true across the board, though,

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Speaker 3: Like when you invest in yourself, then that kind of

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Speaker 3: change the changes the emphasis or the attention that you

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Speaker 3: give anyone thing. So for instance, like I'm currently working

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Speaker 3: on rehabilitating what feels like never ending planter fasci itis,

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Speaker 3: But until I started spending, you know, a great amount

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Speaker 3: of money to see a physical therapist twice a week,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't ready to take it as seriously as I

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Speaker 3: am right now a month into that journey. And so

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Speaker 3: that happens, and it's hard though, Like it's it's a

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Speaker 3: frustrating place to be for sure. It's kind of exactly

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Speaker 3: like you were speaking about at the beginning of your

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Speaker 3: journey with form, when you wanted better quality content but

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Speaker 3: you weren't sure if you were ready to spend on it.

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Speaker 2: It's like you have to be ready to make that leap, Biggs, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean truly exactly like you said, it's all areas of

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Speaker 1: your life. I think about my skin journey like I

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Speaker 1: tried to do so many like twists and turns and

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Speaker 1: quick fixes to get my acne away. And the moment

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Speaker 1: that I actually went and saw specialists and actually had

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Speaker 1: quality people telling me this is what's going on, what

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Speaker 1: you need to do getting facials per month which weren't cheap,

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Speaker 1: but it literally cleared my skin. So I think it

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Speaker 1: is that commitment is going to is commitment to yourself

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Speaker 1: of like putting that money down is where I think

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Speaker 1: girlies once they do it, they're like, Aha, this.

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Speaker 2: Is augh the girlies. Aha.

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Speaker 3: A previous model now at the forefront of this budding

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Speaker 3: community twenty thousand strong and growing quickly. A lot of

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Speaker 3: those women may look at you gorgeous, like this woman

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00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 3: has it all together. What would you say your biggest

797
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: struggle has been over the last few years personally while

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Speaker 3: building this.

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Speaker 1: Community, comparison comes to mind strongly. I think there is

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in every space, not just mine,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of spaces, and I think if I

802
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: think there's been times where I ask myself, well, what

803
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: are they doing that I'm not doing? Why do people

804
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: like them and not me? There's definitely been those vulnerable

805
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: moments while starting a company. It's a very vulnerable thing

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Speaker 1: because you know, financially you're leaning on this moment, but

807
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: also it is such a self reflection of you believing

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00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: in this thing. And for me, it could be like

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Speaker 1: people don't believe in me, people don't believe in what

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Speaker 1: I'm projecting, So it could be a little of the

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Speaker 1: imposter syndrome coming through. I think that would be like

812
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: my battle through this time of just remembering first off

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Speaker 1: that there's space for all of us, and secondly, the

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Speaker 1: people that are going to connect to me are going

815
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Speaker 1: to connect to me and to stay in my own lane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, put the blinders on is like a huge piece

817
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Speaker 3: of advice that someone once offered me. And you're not

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Speaker 3: alone in you know, falling into that comparison trap by

819
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Speaker 3: any means.

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Speaker 2: And you know that.

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Speaker 3: So when you do find yourself with your wheel spinning,

822
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Speaker 3: feeling like you're a little bit in the mud, stuck

823
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: in that spot, how have you classically been able to

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Speaker 3: get out in the past.

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Speaker 1: I usually start by remembering that if I'm comparing to them,

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Speaker 1: they also are an influence to me, Like I use

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Speaker 1: it as drive, I use it as they're just doing

828
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Speaker 1: things that I also can't wait to do, or that

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Speaker 1: I appreciate or I respect, So then I'll practice sending

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Speaker 1: them love because I don't want them to also have

831
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Speaker 1: any any feelings. Besides, you're doing amazing, So I'll practice

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Speaker 1: setting those like certain people that I am comparing to love,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll give myself that love right back, and

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Speaker 1: I'll focus on visualization. I love visualization, so I'll sit

835
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Speaker 1: with myself and visualize where I want to be, how

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Speaker 1: I feel in that moment when I do get there,

837
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Speaker 1: reconnecting to my dreams and what I actually want, and

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Speaker 1: then lastly, probably connecting to the community members I do

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Speaker 1: have that absolutely love what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm like chuckling a little bit here thinking about how

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Speaker 3: about twenty five minutes ago you spoke so candidly about

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Speaker 3: wondering if you had any intuition at all, and now

843
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 3: being so grounded in listening to what your inner voice

844
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Speaker 3: is saying and practicing utilizing that intuition so regularly.

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Speaker 2: It's really admirable.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I think when you thought you

847
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: never had one and then you find them, you just

848
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: never want him gone now, So I keep them really

849
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: close and lean on that intuition so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and also this practice of sending others love.

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Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about that.

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00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I think this is so powerful because say you

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00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: did something wrong and you've already apologized, this is just

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00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: for reference, and then you walk away, but you still

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00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: feel it in your body. Right, maybe that person has

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00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: already released it, they're like, great, thanks for the apology,

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00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: but you still feel it. And I personally feel like

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Speaker 1: we're now just holding that energy in our body and

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Speaker 1: it's just stuck there and it's interfering with like the

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Speaker 1: love and joy and all the other energies that actually

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Speaker 1: want to come through. So truly, it is a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think forgiveness is actually it's a gift for someone else,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a greater gift for yourself. So

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Speaker 1: I'll practice. I have like a color and mind that

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00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: is like my love color, and it's yellow. And when

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Speaker 1: I close my eyes, I pat I picture myself sending

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Speaker 1: this yellow light all the way to them, if they

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Speaker 1: could be all the way across the world, they could

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Speaker 1: be wherever they're at. And I know that that light

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Speaker 1: from my heart is connecting directly to theirs, and I

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Speaker 1: let that moment soak in and then I release it

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Speaker 1: and let it all all go.

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Speaker 3: That's so powerful. I was sitting here doing that a

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Speaker 3: little bit with you just now.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I feel like I just don't allow

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Speaker 1: certain unless I need to feel certain emotions, but I

877
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: don't allow them to one last and I don't allow

878
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: them to take up space of the good energy that's needed.

879
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: Right again, me comparing me having jealousy, me having any

880
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: of that is doing zero justice for myself or for them.

881
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 3: And that is also exemplary of the work that you've done,

882
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: because it takes a really it takes a while at least,

883
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: I'll say from my experience to get to a place

884
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: where you truly can understand the benefit of releasing the

885
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: things that don't serve you and getting to a place

886
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: also where you accept the things that you cannot change.

887
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, maybe this one situation may have made

888
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: me feel some kind of way, but now, after doing

889
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: this work, I understand that I control what happens next.

890
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: So for you, you've decided that.

891
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to send maybe light or love as a

892
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: response instead of sitting in these feelings that just aren't serving.

893
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: You exactly, and it's done.

894
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: Me wonders, did you learn that from someone else or

895
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: is that like a practice that you came up with

896
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: on your own.

897
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: I think I probably, to be honest, I don't have

898
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: anyone in mind that like taught me that specifically. I

899
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: think over all of the work that I've done, they've

900
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: connected in some way to be able to connect that

901
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: and do that. The one thing someone did teach me

902
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: and then maybe I turned it into my own was

903
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: kind of like picturing a chord connected to like almost

904
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: like an outlet connected to someone else. So someone else

905
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: that you are giving power to hold your emotions. You

906
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: feel this connection to them. And again, so say I

907
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: was jealous of someone, I am now connecting a chord

908
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: to them. So a way that they helped me visualize

909
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: is to cut the chord. So it's like you're cutting

910
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: the cord and now we've released that connection and that

911
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: energy of that emotion. So I think I started doing

912
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: that and then from there started the light one that

913
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: I do. Now.

914
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: I love that. I'm into it. I'm into it.

915
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: So again, at the front of a rapidly growing business,

916
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 3: what would you say in this time, one of the

917
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: best pieces of advice has been that someone has offered

918
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: you on your entrepreneurial journey.

919
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: Your superpower is you, and for me, what that means

920
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: is always connecting it back to I am the only

921
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: me out there. So when those negative thoughts come through,

922
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: when the comparison comes through, when the decisions come through,

923
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: it's like I am the superpower and this company is

924
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 1: running because it's from me, my ideas and what I want.

925
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: I know that your partner is an entrepreneur as well.

926
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 3: How does that bode for your household?

927
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: It's an inspiring buzz in household over here, that's for sure.

928
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: I would say you feel the energy when you come

929
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: into this house. We're both in startups, so it's it's

930
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: definitely high energy and it's inspiring. We both have our

931
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: teams work out of here. We both feed off of

932
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: each other. We both support each other and communicate from

933
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: each learnings that we're both having, and I think we

934
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: both understand each other, which is kind of hard in

935
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur world. We both really really understand what we're

936
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: both going through.

937
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: How does that feel for you?

938
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh, it feels right. It feels it feels like I

939
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: can do anything because I have him also doing the

940
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: same thing.

941
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 3: You just feel really understood, understood, really beautiful now being

942
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: at the center of all of this programming. What do

943
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 3: you do on the days that you aren't feeling like

944
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: showing up perhaps or just going through something on the

945
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: personal side of things.

946
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'll say for me, a lot of

947
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: the days I have to show up and teach, so

948
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: obviously having new workouts come out weekly on form and

949
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: some days, just like everyone else who is not feeling

950
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: like working out or their bodies just not into it,

951
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: that is a tougher moment for me. So I think

952
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: I have an incredible team that I can lean on

953
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I checked in with myself, I need rest,

954
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: I need a moment. Can we push this? Move this?

955
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: So I'm really good about priorities and knowing when I

956
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: need to push myself and when something can actually be

957
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: stressed free and I can move it.

958
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: Love that.

959
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: I think that that practice is just so important in general.

960
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: Right if you get to a place where you're just

961
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 3: like I just don't feel like I have the capacity

962
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: to do X, knowing the opportunity and benefit that you

963
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: have to like reach out to someone and maybe put

964
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 3: your ego aside and be like help, Like what am

965
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: I supposed to do?

966
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: Please please tell me exactly.

967
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny, it is such an ego thing.

968
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: Like half the time, my team's like, of course we

969
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: can move it, and I'm like, we can.

970
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: Are you sure? So crazy?

971
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: Yeah? So crazy? Are you sure? So? I think? Yeah?

972
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean it only does everyone justice when I listen

973
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: to that, you know, because if I show up on

974
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: set and I'm not clear I'm not in it, it

975
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: can also not be a great workout.

976
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: What excites you right now, Sammy?

977
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: I would say this era we're in, or this energy

978
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: that I'm around, where people are wanting it all and

979
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: the best for themselves, at least who I'm following on

980
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: social or who I'm surrounding myself with. I just see

981
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: people really understanding that they can have their dream life

982
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: and they're doing what they can and learning how they

983
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: can have it. And for me, I'm like, yeah, we can,

984
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: we can have it all, and I love being surrounded

985
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: by that.

986
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 3: I recently did an episode on the show where we

987
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 3: were talking about how energy attracts like energy, and this

988
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: seems to be exactly what you're tapping into. Here is

989
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 3: this concept of knowing that you know who you are,

990
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: you know what you want to admit into the world,

991
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: and that is this positivity and this you know, kind

992
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: of motivational sphere. And so when you look around you

993
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: and you look at your life, you find that then

994
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: that is exactly what you see looking back at you.

995
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: But you can't just expect that to be there looking

996
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: back at you if you're not willing to be the

997
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: person that's going to give it right out.

998
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 1: Paradima preach exactly.

999
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 3: I love that for you though, I love like I

1000
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: mean because I also think that that is something that

1001
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 3: takes a while to cultivate as well.

1002
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I've just seen to piggyback on

1003
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: that too. The power of me doing the work has

1004
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: domino effected into the people in my life. You know,

1005
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: there's people in my life that I never thought would change.

1006
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: There's people in my life that I just thought that

1007
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: they they would stay the way they stayed. They don't

1008
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: want to, but they would stay that way. And the

1009
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: domino effect of just putting in the work yourself is

1010
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: so inspiring people are watching and also I think by

1011
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: energy is just like magically going into them as well.

1012
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: Like it's such a domino effect in my eyes.

1013
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: Have you.

1014
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: Had to walk away from individuals or situations that didn't

1015
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 3: serve you in pursuit of vibrating at this frequency.

1016
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, definitely have.

1017
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about that.

1018
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a really confusing time, specifically when I

1019
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: really started seeing that I was asking for what I

1020
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: want and I was living it and I wanted to

1021
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: continue that, and anyone that was trying to bring that down,

1022
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: I knew I needed to let go. I mean, let's

1023
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: be real, we are evolving humans, and I think I

1024
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: had this vision in my eye that we are supposed

1025
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: to stay with the same friends, same people from kindergarten

1026
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: all the way till we're eighty, and by all means,

1027
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: some people do it. And I'm like, that looks so fun,

1028
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: Like you guys have the best memories. For me, I'm like,

1029
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: so evolving even in my relation, we're having to have

1030
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 1: strong communication because we're just so evolving that I did

1031
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: have to let friendships go and people go that were

1032
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: just not on either side serving each other anymore. And

1033
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: again I would call it confusing because you felt like

1034
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: you were doing something wrong, but it felt right. So

1035
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: it's emotional because you're losing a piece of you that

1036
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: you've invested in, you have memories with, but you also

1037
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: knew it was right for the both of you to

1038
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: let that time go.

1039
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: When you're losing that quote unquote piece of you. Though

1040
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: in this process, what do you gain.

1041
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: More people that are actually on that wavelength and that

1042
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: are going to teach you more things than you've ever

1043
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: even known? Like I want to be in a room

1044
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: and surrounded by people that I am inspired by, learning

1045
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: by elevating and evolving me, And that's what it gave

1046
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: space for those people to enter.

1047
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: Friend breakups are hard, right, Like, it's hard, it's emotional,

1048
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: Like you said, you have like all of these deep

1049
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: rooted memories, But knowing who you want to be is

1050
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: truly the most beautiful thing that you can do for yourself.

1051
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and even too it's doing them justice because

1052
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: I felt like I was also bringing that person down

1053
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: because I had things I wanted them to be at

1054
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: and they could feel it, so it was also not

1055
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: doing them any justice and any like love and feel good.

1056
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: So it actually is so good for them too to

1057
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: let them go on their own journey and they don't

1058
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: need to try and be with mine right now because

1059
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: it's not the time.

1060
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, my God, that whole concept of like you

1061
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 3: cannot want better for someone than they want for themselves,

1062
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: and knowing that it's not your obligation to help them

1063
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 3: get there.

1064
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: No, no, And let me tell you the amount of

1065
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: friends that I've actually come back into my life because

1066
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: they took the time they needed to figure it out

1067
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: on their own, but they knew that I was there

1068
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: and I was holding space for them when they were ready.

1069
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: It's so good for the both of you.

1070
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: So good, so good. Okay.

1071
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: Right now, someone comes to your Instagram page, they see

1072
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: this creator a form, a really just beautiful person inside

1073
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 3: and out. When you look in the mirror, Sammy, what

1074
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: is it you see looking back at you?

1075
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I see I see the honestly a lot of love.

1076
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: I see a really proud little Sammy. I just see

1077
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: her looking back at me, like You're doing great. You

1078
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: got this, just so much support and love and alignment.

1079
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 2: Beautiful.

1080
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: Right now, you have an opportunity, as you are to

1081
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: offer yourself a piece of advice back at the beginning

1082
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: of starting form. You're at this crossroads, you're getting out

1083
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 3: of modeling. Knowing what you know now, what advice would

1084
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 3: you offer her in that hurdle moment.

1085
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Start asking the questions and understanding what it is you want.

1086
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: Start asking the questions and understand what it is that

1087
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: you want. Sammy Clark, I'm so happy that we were

1088
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 3: able to do this before I let you go. Is

1089
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: there anything else that we should be looking forward to

1090
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: from Form in the coming weeks months?

1091
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: Give us the info.

1092
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: This was amazing, Emily, Thank you so much. Yeah, a

1093
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: lot of new programs coming out. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: of new girlies at the start of the new year,

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Speaker 1: so we have you know, beginner programs for anyone who's

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Speaker 1: never done pilate's needs an intro to movement, and then

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Speaker 1: we also have just so many incredible programs that support

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Speaker 1: all levels. And then this is a little teaser, but

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Speaker 1: we do have something in nutrition coming out shortly to

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Speaker 1: just allow everyone to have that success in the kitchen

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 3: And for the hurdlers who don't yet follow you, how

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Speaker 3: do they keep up with you?

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Speaker 2: Give us the details.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can follow myself at Sammy Clark on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok, and then Form you can follow us

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at Joinform. Website is joinform dot co.

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Speaker 2: Amazing.

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Speaker 3: I'm over at Emilybody and at Hurdle Podcast, another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.