WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Darius Rucker

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Loves Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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<v Speaker 1>episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>This is QLs classic from November twenty second, twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>with Darius Rucker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Singer songwriter Darius Rucker talks about Hoody and the Bluefish.

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<v Speaker 1>I know those guys, right, They go for playing frat

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<v Speaker 1>parties to playing with the Dave Matthews Band to the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Ole Opry and then going as a solo artist.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also talks about the obstacles he faced a

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<v Speaker 1>long way and yeah, by obstacles, we do being racism,

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<v Speaker 1>but we also speak of his love of hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>and other types of music and sports, and his strange

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<v Speaker 1>obsession of his spirit animal, the late Great Nate Dog.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't want to miss that one, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Rucker Quest Loves Supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, Steve looks like a homest truck drivers.

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<v Speaker 4>Supremo, Roll Supremo, Supremo, Roll Call Supremo, something Supremo, Roll

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<v Speaker 4>call Supremo.

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<v Speaker 3>So some Supremo.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll His name is not Hoodie, Yeah, it's Darius.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mister Rucker. Yeah, if you're nasty.

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<v Speaker 5>Roll call Supreme did rhyme roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Some Supremo roll call.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Sugar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm being wooed yeah by the podcast. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>could only want to be with you.

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<v Speaker 4>So Supremo roll call, Supremo, Supremo roll call.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm on paid Bill. Yeah, ready to rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shout out to South Carolina. Yeah, go game cocks roll.

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<v Speaker 6>Supremo, Supremo, roll cal Supremo, Supremo roll.

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<v Speaker 3>I got boss Bill's name.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well I forgive you who.

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<v Speaker 6>Suprema Sure, roll call Supremo Supremo role.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, yeah, and I'm going country.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Up from.

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<v Speaker 5>Sam Roll.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm from the country. Yeah, that's where I'll be. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm showing a question everybody. Yeah, I'll come and seem something.

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<v Speaker 6>Supremo roll call, Supremo, Supremo, role called Suprema something So Supremo,

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<v Speaker 6>roll called Suprema something something Supremo roll call.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't screwed up like that since episode four.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus K, thank you Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>Practice time, and you know.

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<v Speaker 7>Wasn't around doing nasty darns.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly did you not hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>Hop your reference, ladies and gentlemen, this horrible show. You

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<v Speaker 1>listening quest Love Supreme only on Pandora. My name is

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<v Speaker 1>quest Love. We got team Supreme with us super Steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh unpaid Bill who has looks new. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>you in a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I cleaned.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like a number's only jacket? It is?

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<v Speaker 3>You like it? You have a new girlfriend, don't you?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, you're I didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not on bumble. I have a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, what's as one as he used to have.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to say that is the only reason

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<v Speaker 3>why you look brand right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have to go to things, and I too

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<v Speaker 2>that I can't look like my usual You look great.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't look well enough to go to a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no no. But he's glowing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's glowing, and I have a suit in the card.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh boss bills here and he also looks as

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<v Speaker 1>good as I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Fan is somewhere handling. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting in shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's getting getting married in his wedding suxceedo. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen. Uh, I have to say that our

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is literally loved by millions at least at

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<v Speaker 1>least Yeah, it's rare. I think he might be the

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<v Speaker 1>first Diamond artist of a non greatest hits or or

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<v Speaker 1>a compilation to ever be on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>UH Grammy Award winning Uh baby fits. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>the million people record, but I'm sure I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure question of Supreme emails from Search. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to say that for for the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years or twenty plus years, I won't our

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<v Speaker 1>guest has been entertaining millions and millions, uh, initially as

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<v Speaker 1>a frontman of Hoodie and the Bluefish and now as

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<v Speaker 1>an artist in his own right. Ladies and gentlemen, please

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Quest Love Supreme Darius Rockett.

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<v Speaker 10>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. How are you Today's.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm good man, how y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good. I'm good, not bad.

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<v Speaker 10>I like this. It's really laid bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta I gotta say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for a lot of the guests of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>many of which have had careers in the four and

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<v Speaker 1>almost five decades, UH, you're probably the first act that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know intimately, as in like the back of

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<v Speaker 1>my hand. But I'm very curious about your journey on

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<v Speaker 1>your your your your whole life spent. It's like I

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<v Speaker 1>I know of you, I know of your music, but

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<v Speaker 1>I never know of you as a person and in

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<v Speaker 1>your beginnings. So I know that you're you were born

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<v Speaker 1>in Charleston, South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>Charleston.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, just uh this little neighborhood. Uh there was six kids,

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<v Speaker 9>you know. Uh that wasn't really around a lot if

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<v Speaker 9>at all. And uh just uh I had, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>lived in this little neighborhood, this great little neighborhood. We

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<v Speaker 9>had our neighborhood with the small houses and we had

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<v Speaker 9>the projects behind us, and you know, we fought every

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<v Speaker 9>day and it just it was one of those things.

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<v Speaker 9>But ever since I was ever since I heard Al

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<v Speaker 9>Green at the age of four, all I wanted to

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<v Speaker 9>do was be a singer.

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<v Speaker 10>That's it. That really was for me. There was nothing

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<v Speaker 10>else I ever wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, Uh, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>A year ago I did a show in Charleston and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize how close to New Orleans. It's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a a cut. It almost felt like I was

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<v Speaker 1>in New Orleans, like in the French Quarter. How long

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<v Speaker 1>has it always had that sort of vibe or is.

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<v Speaker 9>This always it's always been that way. We've always said

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<v Speaker 9>that we were like New Orleans cousin, you know, and uh, because.

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans is one of my favorite cities. When I

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<v Speaker 1>went there, I was like, oh, I went out almost

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<v Speaker 1>consider like if I had to be one of those

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<v Speaker 1>people that like my grades back down south like in

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<v Speaker 1>there later years, like I'd consider this and considering what

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the United States heard or knows about Charleston,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, and to still say that that's how great

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<v Speaker 1>my time was in the weekend there.

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 10>That, oh it's a great city.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a musical city.

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<v Speaker 10>It's not as musical's normals, but it's a musical city.

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<v Speaker 9>It's music everywhere, you know, there's always bands playing and

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<v Speaker 9>and just always something to do with music.

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<v Speaker 10>For sure.

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<v Speaker 8>Who are some like notable South Carolina folks, So you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm just thinking.

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<v Speaker 10>About that rock Chris Rock.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well yeah, Chris Robert musical. There's not you know, Uh,

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<v Speaker 8>it might be Darius Rutgers.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh you know who they.

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<v Speaker 9>Me uh Uh. James Brown's from like north was born

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<v Speaker 9>in North Augusta or something, but he lived in you know,

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<v Speaker 9>in Augusta, So that was he's really known to be

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<v Speaker 9>more from Georgia, right, But how.

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<v Speaker 3>Close to Georgia was Charleston.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, I'm probably two hours from Georgia too, from Augusta.

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<v Speaker 7>Are you're still there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>I thought I lived. I lived in the city for

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<v Speaker 9>a couple of years. I was making R and B

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<v Speaker 9>record back at the turn of the century. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 9>lived here. But uh, I love I love it the

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<v Speaker 9>turn of the century.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I know.

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<v Speaker 10>In it was like seventeen years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>There stop, wow, no more years? Yeah? Please? So, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you said that your first musical memory was Al Green. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What was it about? Uh?

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<v Speaker 10>His voice that called his voice? Of course?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, you know, and those records, you know, those

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<v Speaker 9>records that will eventual produce were so still when I

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<v Speaker 9>put them on today, they're they're the sound is my mom.

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<v Speaker 9>Al Green was her favorite, and so when he I

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<v Speaker 9>just wanted to be Al Green.

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<v Speaker 10>Like.

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<v Speaker 9>One of the worst days of my life was when

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<v Speaker 9>my voice changed. It's the true story. My voice changed

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<v Speaker 9>and I tried to sing it Al Green, so I

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<v Speaker 9>couldn't sing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I cried so initially sort of a not soprano but

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<v Speaker 3>an alto. Yeah approach, you were singing, yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Registered all that stuff. Yeah, and my voice changed and

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<v Speaker 9>went straight to a baritone. I cried for like two days.

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<v Speaker 9>I couldn't say there you go, very white, true, true, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just changed with it. So was your family musical as

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<v Speaker 3>well or was it just you?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah? Yeah, my family was a big time in church musical,

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<v Speaker 9>like everybody sing in church. My dad had a had

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<v Speaker 9>a little uh gospel group, and believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 9>the gospel group was named the Rolling Still.

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<v Speaker 7>Got scared when you said he wasn't around much.

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<v Speaker 9>I was like, oh, oh, actually the way I heard,

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<v Speaker 9>the way my relationship I have with my dad was

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<v Speaker 9>every Sunday morning on w p a L in Charleston,

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<v Speaker 9>the Rolling Stones had a half hour Wow and that's

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<v Speaker 9>where I heard my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>McDowell's sort of lawyer.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't like, they never did anything that the Stones

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<v Speaker 9>evenw what was.

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<v Speaker 7>Happening you know South Carolina for life.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, absolutely, yeah, they Yeah, they weren't doing anything. The

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<v Speaker 9>Stones didn't like that's.

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<v Speaker 3>The secular where the Christian Rolling Stone.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, they started the show saying rolling Stone gathers

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<v Speaker 9>no moss.

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<v Speaker 1>So were they uh kind of of like the Backwoods

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<v Speaker 1>Gospel Quartet exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, they came out and did all those songs,

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<v Speaker 9>never really wrote anything, just did all the old spirituals

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<v Speaker 9>and stuff. And they, I mean they were great. I

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<v Speaker 9>mean he was a tenor and he was great. And

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<v Speaker 9>my mom had an amazing voice. Like I used to

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<v Speaker 9>sneak in the living room when my mom was cooking

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<v Speaker 9>and clean in the kitchen and I'd sit in the

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<v Speaker 9>living room just to watch to listen to her sing.

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<v Speaker 10>She had an amazing voice. She was really something special.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it? Of course? I guess when you're traveling with.

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<v Speaker 1>A gospel quartet or whatever, most kids that have the

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<v Speaker 1>experience have to have church all week, not just on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 3>So was it just was this a Baptist or seven

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<v Speaker 3>day of Venice?

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<v Speaker 10>So we were Baptists.

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<v Speaker 9>We were straight Southern Baptists, man, and everything that comes

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<v Speaker 9>with it.

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<v Speaker 10>That's what we were.

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday service, Sunday.

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<v Speaker 10>Sunday service, Saturday service, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean we went to we went to church

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<v Speaker 9>at like nine and got out at three. We were

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<v Speaker 9>there all day. It was an all day thing, and

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<v Speaker 9>it was you know, that was just the way we

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<v Speaker 9>were ready to go eat at night. Yeah, in the

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<v Speaker 9>night service exactly. You love the night service because you

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<v Speaker 9>know you can get some sweep tato pie up in there.

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<v Speaker 10>You love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever sing with.

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<v Speaker 9>The I sing with the choir. I never sang with

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<v Speaker 9>his group.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, okay, how were you when you sing in the choir? Ah?

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<v Speaker 9>God, I started singing in the choir when I was

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<v Speaker 9>I guess eleven or twelve, and I sang for three

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<v Speaker 9>or four years in the choir.

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<v Speaker 3>So because you were i'd assuming you were born in

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<v Speaker 3>the late sixties.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, sixty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm guessing. I promise. I wasn't going to say

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<v Speaker 3>no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Years to grow up down South.

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<v Speaker 3>Post civil rights period.

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<v Speaker 1>At least I considered the Mason Dixon line to be

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What were your childhood experiences like in those formative years,

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<v Speaker 1>like the first ten years of your life.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, we're born a year after we got to write

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<v Speaker 7>the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it was, you know, it was like we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a adult size.

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<v Speaker 3>Was it like hey, a new day or like, how did.

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<v Speaker 10>You know it was still bad? It was still bad.

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<v Speaker 9>I remember being six and my mom and her friends

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<v Speaker 9>organ She was a nurse, and they organized this big

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<v Speaker 9>march because they were getting paid so much less than

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<v Speaker 9>the white nurses. So they organized this big boycott in March,

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<v Speaker 9>and I just remember that being you know, get our

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<v Speaker 9>you know, people putting death threats in our mailbox and

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<v Speaker 9>stuff like that. It was it was it was the

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<v Speaker 9>South doing it, you know. I always say the one

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<v Speaker 9>thing about growing up where I grew up is you

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<v Speaker 9>always knew who didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 10>It was never questioned you. You never had to wonder

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<v Speaker 10>if this.

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<v Speaker 9>Guy, it's this guy everybody's but down there you knew

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<v Speaker 9>who didn't like you, and they made no bones about it.

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<v Speaker 7>And you still stayed to go to college.

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<v Speaker 10>And I mean, my family was there. Where was I

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<v Speaker 10>gonna go? You know?

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<v Speaker 9>And once I started playing music in college, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we were playing that little circuit down there, and where

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<v Speaker 9>was I gonna go?

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<v Speaker 3>Were there bands? And in your high school experience.

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't. I didn't. My first band was who the

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<v Speaker 10>Blowfish Really could start? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 9>Wait, seriously, that was my first band?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, how lucky. We just tried this band, thinking, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, were the biggest band you guys were around

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<v Speaker 3>for a while before.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, we were a band for eight years before we

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<v Speaker 10>get a record.

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<v Speaker 7>Though, Dude, your first band of roots?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, I meant, oh, but I considered like I

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<v Speaker 1>did work with my dad's group, Like okay.

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<v Speaker 8>Your daddy's group, but I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>I did thirteen years in that group before I got

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<v Speaker 1>my wings. Oh wow, Now that's amazing because usually people

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<v Speaker 1>have to.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, my problem was nobody in high school could play.

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<v Speaker 9>Like I didn't have anybody in my high school that

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<v Speaker 9>was a guitar player. I had one guy to play guitar,

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<v Speaker 9>and I don't know, I don't know one drummer or

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<v Speaker 9>bass playing.

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<v Speaker 10>They played in the band, but nobody sick.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was no high school curriculum for music or nothing.

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<v Speaker 9>There was, but there wasn't anybody gonna, let's start a band,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, like I I sing in the high school

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<v Speaker 9>choir and and all that stuff, show choir and all

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<v Speaker 9>that stuff. But it wasn't like anybody was trying to

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<v Speaker 9>start a band, and you know, so I just never did.

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<v Speaker 9>And then when I got into college and I met Mark,

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<v Speaker 9>I was like, hey, man, let's let's jam and we

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<v Speaker 9>started the band.

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<v Speaker 1>So being as though musical aspirations weren't like in your

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<v Speaker 1>your high school years or whatever, like what did you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be when you grew up?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what was your I.

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<v Speaker 10>Wanted to be a singer.

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<v Speaker 9>But when you're from South Carolina, you hear so many

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<v Speaker 9>times that you're never going to make it from South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 9>and so you got to decide you'll do something else.

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<v Speaker 9>So I decided I was going to be a sportscast.

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<v Speaker 9>I went to school for broadcast journalism.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and sportscaster.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I wanted to talk about sports, you know, do the

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<v Speaker 9>sports on the six o'clock news was my goal. That

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<v Speaker 9>was way before ESPN or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Back in eighty four.

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<v Speaker 7>This is in high school, in college.

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<v Speaker 10>Was in high school. I decided that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that also explains why he had Oberman ESPN era

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<v Speaker 1>L video. Of course, now it's making sick, so okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that most down South towns are football towns,

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<v Speaker 1>college towns. Like you, weren't a sports guy at all.

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<v Speaker 9>I like sports, and I played sports until I was thirteen,

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<v Speaker 9>and I just and uh, it was it was tough

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<v Speaker 9>to realize that I wasn't going to play in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 9>But when all my when all my friends were better

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<v Speaker 9>than me and they weren't going to play in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 9>So around thirteen, I decided that I should probably concentrate

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<v Speaker 9>a little more on singing. And so that's when I

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<v Speaker 9>really started trying to become a singer, just trying to

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<v Speaker 9>learn how to sing, and really just from listening to records.

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<v Speaker 9>I've never had a voice lesson in my life. It

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<v Speaker 9>was just listening to records and singing a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 10>It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, So and where did you go to college?

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<v Speaker 10>To South Carolina?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So that's basically in your freshman or sophomore year,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys.

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<v Speaker 9>Sophomore year, I meet this this kid. Hears me singing

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<v Speaker 9>in the shower and I come out of the shower.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, we had those big community showers with no just.

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<v Speaker 10>Jail house showers.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah those and uh and I'm singing some song

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<v Speaker 9>in there and he hears me and.

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<v Speaker 10>I walk out.

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<v Speaker 9>He says, you know, was that you? I was the

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<v Speaker 9>guy's like, I played guitar. Let's see if we know

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<v Speaker 9>any of the same songs. And we went to his

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<v Speaker 9>room and knew about ten of the same songs and

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<v Speaker 9>decided we were gonna I thought. I told him, we

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<v Speaker 9>get us a gig at this chicken wing joint. And

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<v Speaker 9>that's how all started.

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<v Speaker 3>And you guys named yourselves study in the blue Fish.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh dude, I was still mad at myself about this ut.

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<v Speaker 9>First we were the Wolf Brothers. Then we decided to

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<v Speaker 9>get a whole band, and and there's two guys. One

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<v Speaker 9>guy I sang with them, and one guy had these

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<v Speaker 9>really big eyes.

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<v Speaker 10>And I used to be a real asshole. I used

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<v Speaker 10>to give people's nicknames all the time.

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<v Speaker 9>And this guy had big eyes, and I called him Hoodie,

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<v Speaker 9>and everybody started to call him Hoodie, and.

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<v Speaker 10>His roommate and best friend who.

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<v Speaker 9>Literally found out it was his boyfriend, and uh, he

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<v Speaker 9>had these big.

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<v Speaker 10>Cheeks and he played he played trumpets.

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<v Speaker 9>He had these big dizzey gillaspie cheeks and he'd do

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<v Speaker 9>that thing, and so I started calling him in the Blowfish.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm certain that even now do they know this story.

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<v Speaker 10>V H one did a thirty minute special.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certain right now at the family table, facegiving like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they tell us there all the time.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm going to ask the dumb question in the

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<v Speaker 8>room because somebody's listening, and somebody's thinking it, who is

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<v Speaker 8>a fish?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>What I did not who?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, don't look at me. It was somebody listening right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Who thought, so you.

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<v Speaker 1>At what point are you guys like Okay, let's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you escape South? Because I wouldn't imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>Charleston is a music town like Nashville. Oh no, Or

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like, hey, why don't we go to Nashville? Like

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was like, we got to go to

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<v Speaker 1>New York to make it.

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<v Speaker 9>And we were told that by everybody we gotta go

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<v Speaker 9>to Nashville or New York or La or Atlanta to

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<v Speaker 9>make it.

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<v Speaker 10>And we just didn't want to do it. We wanted

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<v Speaker 10>to stay in Columbia.

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<v Speaker 9>And uh so we were playing a circuit back and

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<v Speaker 9>back then you could play from the New York down

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<v Speaker 9>to Florida and the Tennessee and every place had a club,

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<v Speaker 9>and so we would just play the same clubs every

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<v Speaker 9>six weeks. And so after a while we started doing

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<v Speaker 9>great at these clubs. Like I think the last year

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<v Speaker 9>before we got a record deal, we each made fifty

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<v Speaker 9>grand just playing club.

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<v Speaker 7>How how long had you been?

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<v Speaker 3>So we played better?

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<v Speaker 9>We played three hundred shows that year, but you know

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<v Speaker 9>it was and we didn't get a record that when

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<v Speaker 9>we got big Grunge was king. Nobody was trying to

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<v Speaker 9>sign a band like Cootie the Bluff, and we put

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<v Speaker 9>out a little EP called Kuchie Pop and we sold

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<v Speaker 9>fifty five fifty. Shirley Hamphill, We're watching We're Washing Hamphio

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<v Speaker 9>do her stand up and she said her daughter saved

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<v Speaker 9>her whole Couchie Pop.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I know that routine.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, and that's where we got it from.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what I think I remember that?

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<v Speaker 9>And absolutely, And so we named the Kuccie Pop and

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<v Speaker 9>we sold like fifty sixty thousand copies of it out

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<v Speaker 9>of the back of our van, just selling it at

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<v Speaker 9>shows and at these Mama Pop record stores. And that's

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<v Speaker 9>when and it was before Billboard had computers, so you

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<v Speaker 9>still had to call the stores. And people were calling

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<v Speaker 9>these stores in the Southeast, going who's selling and we

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<v Speaker 9>were like number three and number four and the people

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<v Speaker 9>who is this? Who do even bofish Man and they

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<v Speaker 9>all came down looking. So this is around like eighty

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<v Speaker 9>nine ninety that's around ninety one ninety two when it

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<v Speaker 9>really started to take off.

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<v Speaker 2>But when did you guys start writing songs? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like.

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<v Speaker 9>We started writing songs eighty nine because it was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cover was that you guys play covered Yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 9>Covered forever Yeah, And it's so funny down to up

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<v Speaker 9>looking out because you know, Dave Matthews got huge. We

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<v Speaker 9>we played frat parties with Dave Matthews. That's how I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>that's how big the scene was back back then, that

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<v Speaker 9>scene was so good and it's not that way anymore.

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<v Speaker 9>But we made we didn't even care about a record deal.

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<v Speaker 9>We were making good money.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was gonna ask, what would you how would

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<v Speaker 1>you categorize yourselves? Because from me, from me seeing you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and we like there have been a few are those

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<v Speaker 1>big giant festivals were like the roots were on like

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<v Speaker 1>the ninth Stay the backlock stage, you guys are headlining,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would I rarely hear people describe I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought that you guys were more of a jam band

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<v Speaker 1>with pop sensibilities. Absolutely, like not all the way fish,

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<v Speaker 1>but kind of in that length, Like would you consider

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<v Speaker 1>because I never considered it country pop or straight ahead

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<v Speaker 1>pop or I think there's musicality and.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely we were jam band with with with with that

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<v Speaker 9>pop such ability because none of us could play well

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<v Speaker 9>enough to be a jaman. Nobody, nobody, nobody wanted to

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<v Speaker 9>hear our guitar player player solo for ten minutes. Nobody

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<v Speaker 9>definitely wanted to hear me play a solo because I

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.160
<v Speaker 9>still can't play so so, but we had that Jampan

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 9>feel about us. So that's what we always that's what

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<v Speaker 9>we always thought we were.

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<v Speaker 3>I see, Okay, So at what point does Atlantic come

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<v Speaker 3>in the picture?

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<v Speaker 10>Like, how does Yeah? They came in ninety A.

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<v Speaker 9>Lanta came out at the end of ninety two and

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<v Speaker 9>started talking to us, and everybody was but everybody was

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.640
<v Speaker 9>talking to us, I mean, and we met this guy

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 9>that we liked, and so we went with Atlantic and

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<v Speaker 9>I remember making Cracked Review. And there's some people right

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<v Speaker 9>now that if you talk to them, they'll tell you

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<v Speaker 9>they signed us, but they didn't. They lie, and uh,

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<v Speaker 9>Danny Goldberg was president of Atlantic at the time, and

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<v Speaker 9>people went in. People at Atlantic went in and told

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<v Speaker 9>Danny Goldberg that you can't put Cracked Review out. Told

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<v Speaker 9>him that if one guy told him, if you put

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<v Speaker 9>Cracked Review out, we will be the laughing stock of

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<v Speaker 9>the music business because it wasn't grunge, and everybody was

0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.320
<v Speaker 9>buying up the grunt and grunge was everything, you know.

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.919
<v Speaker 9>Kirk Cobbaine and Pearl Jam and those guys, they were everything,

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<v Speaker 9>and they told him to not put on. Danny just

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<v Speaker 9>told him we're putting the record out, and you know

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<v Speaker 9>the rest, I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Just it Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously the one factor that meet you guys you

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<v Speaker 1>need was the fact that a black lead singer and

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<v Speaker 1>this band, Like, how as far as once the majors

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<v Speaker 1>got to you guys and at least we're recording you

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<v Speaker 1>to sign to the label, like, was there hesitancy as

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<v Speaker 1>far as that like, was that ever? The subthing was

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<v Speaker 1>that the ever the white elephant in the room. Oh absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we going to sell this in the marketing?

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<v Speaker 9>And that was always I mean, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 9>many times people say, yo, Lenny Gravitz that I was like, yeah,

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 9>but we don't sound like Lady Gravitz.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys weren't hippified.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing you were so dude's next door, Yes exactly,

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.760
<v Speaker 1>k guys next door, Like, but that's the thing you weren't.

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't you guys weren't silly frat you weren't. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so normal that it worked, It was relatable. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm certain that someone said, like, well, just let the music,

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, let the music speak for itself.

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<v Speaker 9>Like you notice, we're not there's little picture of us

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<v Speaker 9>on our first.

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<v Speaker 3>Record, the Motown Theory. Yeah, and that was on purpose.

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<v Speaker 10>That was on purpose. That was you have me for

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<v Speaker 10>Somebody wanted to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>They didn't want people to see, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>Because if they and if they saw me on the record,

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 9>they would have thought I was a drummer or the

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<v Speaker 9>basse player.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>And and so when we actually when we started making

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<v Speaker 9>our first video, was like people, you know, they were

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 9>worried that, you know, the the video channels working to

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<v Speaker 9>play like you know.

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<v Speaker 10>I was like, well, you know, let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's discussions of just doing an aerosmith and have

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<v Speaker 1>a narrative of the story.

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<v Speaker 9>And you guys, not exactly did bother you I always always.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, because to us it win a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 9>We had just played frat houses where you know, I

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 9>was called nigger and all this stuff. We had just

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 9>busted our bus to get through where we were going

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<v Speaker 9>through the South playing all those shitty gigs that you know,

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 9>I look back on and go, I can't believe we didn't.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I didn't have to fight our way out.

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<v Speaker 7>Of that, you know exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>And so when we got there, I was like, man,

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 9>we still got We're on the big stage. Now we

0:24:58.320 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 9>still got to deal with this crap.

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<v Speaker 7>How did your bam it? How did they deal with

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<v Speaker 7>because this is something new for them.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm sure it was, yeah, but I mean, you know,

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 9>they they were thinner skin than I was. I knew

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:09.719
<v Speaker 9>that if I was going to do this, I had

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.679
<v Speaker 9>to have thick skin. I knew that the instant we

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 9>started playing in the South that if I was going

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 9>to do this, I gotta have thick skin. And we're

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 9>gonna be fighting everywhere we play.

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<v Speaker 1>And damn I forgot because you're the front man, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know there's always some asshole or a heckler or

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 1>beard or sure, so how you must be have like

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<v Speaker 1>marksmen like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I am pretty.

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<v Speaker 8>Of those clubs with the cages around Rose Pay one

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<v Speaker 8>of those.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, like Blues Brothers places that had the fence around

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<v Speaker 9>this day.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys never played Rong Hide just for kicks. We

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:47.919
<v Speaker 3>played Roigh that night.

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<v Speaker 9>Didn't even know it picked it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, that dog that is that is brave?

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<v Speaker 1>Like does would that ever give you an anxiety?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at the most I would probably fear facing

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>an audience that has indifference, but not you know, wondering

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>every night where's it going to come from.

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<v Speaker 9>I tell you the times when I got the most

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 9>scared or like, but you know, we took the gigs,

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 9>were go play the gig, But anxiety was playing those

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 9>frat houses in the South, like going to the University

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 9>of Tennessee and playing the freaking Kate, going to Presbyterian

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 9>and playing the KA House. And you know, I don't

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 9>know what it is like that, but back when we

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 9>were in school, KA was the old South frat. You

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:40.840
<v Speaker 9>know they basically, you know, they should have three k's

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.919
<v Speaker 9>instead of ka.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that ever a redemptive purple ring movement where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like where it's like when you get to that climatic

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>song and they're looking at each.

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<v Speaker 9>Other like, yeah, absolutely there was.

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<v Speaker 3>There was.

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<v Speaker 9>But then then we're lowing our shipped down and the

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 9>guy front and I hear this man that was a

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.680
<v Speaker 9>good band, even though they had a nigger singer.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh heard it.

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 9>The guy was right there.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 8>When he said, and what's crazy for you is you

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 8>had to go through both sides because it's like you

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 8>have that and then you're not black enough on the

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 8>other side, because I'm sure there were situations that you

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 8>you know, you wanted to do or even as far

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 8>as publications that you wanted to talk to and it

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 8>was like, wait, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, that's that. That's been the hardest thing for me

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 9>is to have to get it for most sides, Like

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 9>I've sold thirty five million records. There was one point

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 9>where I was in the biggest band in the world.

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:33.679
<v Speaker 9>And you know, I've never been on the cover of

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.239
<v Speaker 9>Ebony or Jet. I've had one story and Jet they

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 9>did a story. But who was in Bluefish in ninety six, right,

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 9>we just got.

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<v Speaker 3>The cover of Ebony.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying that it's it's even though he's

0:27:54.680 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>we're in different genres, there is it is a psychological

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>mind fuck to thrive in a business where categorically or

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:18.400
<v Speaker 1>statistically the audience that's supporting you might not necessarily embrace

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you in real life. And on top of that, the

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>people that you look like when you look in the

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:31.199
<v Speaker 1>mirror aren't necessarily supporting you as well. So it's a

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>very weird thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Toby. It's well, I mean, there's a lot of acts

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 3>like that, but it's it's.

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 7>Still you know what's crazy.

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 8>Y'all should know that it trickles down to radio too,

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 8>because I've been told I'm come from radio, and I've

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 8>been told, Okay, black people aren't into that, like you,

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 8>we can't talk about that. Oh can we just talk

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 8>about No, black people don't. So it trickles down in

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 8>all kinds of ways. I don't want y'all to just

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 8>think like, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's also the difference because he has a lot

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>of hits and I got one and that.

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Half hits.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So so the album comes out and it

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>becomes an unstoppable monster. Yeah, like and again I know

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that no one planned any of this. It wasn't like

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you were, oh god, no doing Michael Jackson posted on

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the wall like.

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 10>No, not at all.

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>So at the point where it's like where your sound

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>skin numbers reports are coming in, deal like, oh guys,

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>another million, another million, another million, another million.

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Does it does it get scary?

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Because like, this is your first album and are you

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>already thinking like damn, now the second album has to

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>be just as good?

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<v Speaker 9>And I was I was the one that said of

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.240
<v Speaker 9>the band, y'all know this is never gonna happen again, right,

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 9>I mean.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>It was even as it was happening.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 9>It got to like twelve million, and they, I mean,

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 9>they wanted to go. They wanted to chase Michael Jackson.

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 9>They wanted to put too more singles out. They wanted

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 9>to chase Thriller. They really really did. They wanted to

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 9>they wanted to put too more singles up, but we stopped.

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<v Speaker 3>It, respectful.

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<v Speaker 9>No, we want to make another record record, you know,

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 9>the same song as make another record, and uh, it

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 9>was it's getting crazy, but I knew it.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 9>We sold six million on the next record and that's

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 9>considered a flop. How how crazy is that we sold

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 9>six million records and it's considered a flop.

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 11>That's crazy Today, if anybody sells six million.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 3>You can't.

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 10>Can't. It's not possible.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So okay, So when you get to Fairweather Johnson and

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:39.479
<v Speaker 1>and and the other records, like, are you well, I mean,

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>what's the as far as you guys are concerned, Are

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys still a tight knit you?

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, Because usually when bands get to that level

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like you two dog, their entourage situation is the craziest

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever seen in my life. Like even Adam

0:30:55.880 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Clayton has his own private plane, his own us, his

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>own like each band member and YouTube has their own world.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it's something I've never seen before. But are you guys? Like, Okay,

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna stay humble, stay on the same bus.

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 3>We were so tight.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 9>I mean it was we felt it was still us

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 9>against the world and the party was on. Okay, I

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 9>mean we we were at that point when Fairweather came out,

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 9>we were raging. I mean it was like, I think

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 9>back to that time and when we get together, the

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 9>four of us talk, we say the same thing, thank

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 9>God for letting all four of us make it out

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 9>the end of that. And so that was something that

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 9>brought us together. We were just having so much fun.

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 9>We didn't care about the record. So the only thing

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 9>we loved is that the shows were bigger.

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 10>You know that. That's that's what we cared about. The

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 10>shows were bigger.

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 9>We're getting to play as much as we want, having

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 9>a great time. I actually con afford to pay off

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 9>my student loan and get me a car.

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 3>First first check.

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 10>My student loan first check.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, much just like thousand with you.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 7>Your first loan was like twenty.

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 9>Exactly.

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You know that the Obama's paid off their student loan

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the first year of being in the White House.

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 5>Wow wow, really wow.

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 7>It was expensive too. They did had a lot of

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 7>schooling they did.

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 3>That's real, that's crazy.

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>So to play, what do you prefer like smaller intimate

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>settings or is it as intimate when you're playing in

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the stadium.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 9>Or oh definitely not today, I definitely. But if we

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 9>could play like a two three thousand sedter, that's perfect.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>That's a good small small I love it.

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 9>That's not small. I mean small is a five hundred

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 9>the club, But that's that's I like that. But you know,

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 9>like last night, I pluay. You know, there was you know,

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 9>eleven twelve thousand people in this tennis stadium and you

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 9>just can't. You try to give it up, but you

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 9>can't see everybody. You can't, you know, you can't really

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 9>get it. And that's I like that because you know

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 9>that the checks are bigger, and you know you're still

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 9>and you you're doing all right, and you got all

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 9>these people here. But man, if I could play a

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 9>two thousand theater, I love it.

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I gotta ask a question, So right now, where's your Grammy.

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>This This is a running joke on.

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 6>I have.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 10>I have a man.

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 9>I have this little room where I watch football and write,

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 9>and I got my studio there, and there's a little

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.719
<v Speaker 9>closet area. If you want to see my grammys right now,

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 9>I would have to take you to them. Like you

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 9>never walk in my house and see my Grammys, I'd

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 9>have to take you to Oh.

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>So it's not on the floor, it's not a doorstopper.

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 9>Or basically it's basically a bookend. Some books up there.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 9>The two of them are holding some books up. But uh,

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 9>I mean, like I say, I'll say, any other I

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 9>don't have. I don't want people to walk in and

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 9>like there's not one platinum gold record on my wall

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 9>anywhere in my house. I don't have them. My sisters

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 9>and brothers have them all. I don't have my cousins.

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 9>I don't have any of them because I don't want

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 9>people walking into my living room and seeing all the

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 9>you know, eighteen times blaten Am and all that stuff.

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 9>It's like, I know what I did, you know, you

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 9>know what I did. I don't have to throw in

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 9>anybody's face. So my grammy is just a little they're

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.400
<v Speaker 9>in the corner somewhere, just if you want to see them,

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 9>them to you, but you're.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:17.479
<v Speaker 10>Not gonna see it one less.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 2>They're not in the bathroom.

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 10>Now, They're not in the bathroom. Yours in the bathroom?

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, nice?

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 3>So yeah in the bathroom.

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>When did you know that it was time to leave

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the band and start your own solo career.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 9>I got lucky if our drummer came in. We had,

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 9>you know, you tour every summer, and we were on

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:45.320
<v Speaker 9>tour in the middle of the tour and our drummer

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.760
<v Speaker 9>walks in and says, hey, man, you know, I don't

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 9>want to be a touring band like this anymore. I

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 9>want to just we we're touring too much, so I

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 9>don't want to be a touring band. And my first

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 9>thought was, Okay, I'm going to go do this country record.

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 10>Yes, I was like yeah.

0:34:58.239 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 9>I was like, cool, I'll go do I'm gonna do

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 9>my this country thing and see what happens.

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>But you didn't, right, huh you? As far as I'm concerned.

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>When I first met you two thousand and one, you

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>signed it in beach career.

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, but that was that we were still together.

0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:15.919
<v Speaker 9>That was we took a year off and I did

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 9>that record. Then we got back together and went back

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 9>on tour until two thousand and eight.

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I thought you left the group and then.

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 9>No, that we were just taking time off for that

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 9>then and then at two thousand and eight was when

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 9>two thousand and seven was when.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 10>They called it.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 9>They we just don't want to do this all the

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 9>time was okay, And we weren't that band who could

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 9>have said, Okay, we're gonna get a new drummer. We

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 9>just we're a band. When the four of us play,

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 9>we play. If the four of us are gonna play together,

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.400
<v Speaker 9>we're not gonna play.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So the grass is always greener on the other side.

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I was shocked. Really, I just just as a

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>as a working musician, my thought is always about like

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>my livelihood and the people have to take care.

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 10>Of Yes, I mean too you can't.

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's just with with black people.

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would think that everyone thinks like Okay.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I also feel like.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so to.

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Walk away from something so sure shot and I'm sure

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm certain that by that point you know your guarantees

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>or nice yeah for you know, yeah, that time period

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>to make that every To make your your your grandparents night,

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to make your grandparents' annual salary in one ninety minute

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>concert is great. So to walk away from that is

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>such a risk. Oh yeah, And I'm not even talking

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 1>about your standpoint because you're still here.

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.479
<v Speaker 3>But for your band members, is.

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>It Was it a rastusism or was it like, well,

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about him.

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 9>No, he had thought about it for a while. I

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 9>mean you could tell when he was talking to us.

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 9>And I think the band actually thought we might not

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 9>play for two years, maybe three years, and we'd be

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 9>out doing it again. And I'll be honest with me,

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 9>I probably thought to say thing because I was going

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 9>to make my country record in my basement with my buddies,

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 9>and because I didn't think I could get a record deal,

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 9>because I say all the time, if I was my brother,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 9>I wouldn't give me a record deal because at that point,

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 9>who he had run his course on the radio. We

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 9>had done our thing, you know, if we were lucky,

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 9>if our records would go gold, you know, and it

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 9>was one you know, We're still had a touring band.

0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 9>We were doing great, but nobody was out buying hoodie records.

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 9>And I thought to myself if if I'm the president

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 9>of the label or ain't our guy, I'm not going

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 9>to give the black lead singer of a pop band

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 9>that was big a record deal to do country music.

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 10>I mean, I just didn't think i'd get a record deal.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 9>And Doc McGhee was my manager, and he talked to

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 9>president of Capitol and to give me a record deal

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 9>before before he said who I was. And then when

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 9>he said who I was, I got lucky because the

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 9>guy said, you know, I didn't really get that hooty thing,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 9>but I always thought he was a country singer.

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 5>Who you were?

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 10>They were at dinner.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.359
<v Speaker 9>The story goes here at dinner and he's with Mike

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 9>Duncan and he says, I want you to give this

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 9>guy a record deal, and Mike was like who. And

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 9>they went around for an hour and Mike was like,

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 9>I can't give him deal with that, telling me and

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 9>Doc pull deal.

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 10>I'm Doc McGee, you you're gonna trust me on this.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 10>One said all right, I'll give a deal.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 9>I'll give a deal and said it was me And

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:13.920
<v Speaker 9>they called me that night and I went and in

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 9>the next day and he gave me a deal. And

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 9>the favorite story that I hear is he said. When

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 9>I decided to give a record deal, I called the

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 9>thirteen people in Nashville that I thought were the tastemakers,

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 9>the guys that are running country music. He's called by

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 9>thirteen friends, and I thought would know that know this business,

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 9>are controlling this business. And I told them all I

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 9>was sudden you and twelve of them told me it

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 9>will never work. Wow, don't even do it. You're wasting

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 9>your money. The guy who produced my record for the

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 9>Rogers was the one guy who said, great idea, call

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 9>me when you do it. Yeah, really, yeah, he I mean, dude.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 9>When I started going to radio, I had radio guys

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 9>who are now my best buddies. You know, when you

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 9>need that extra spin to go to number one, you know,

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:57.840
<v Speaker 9>and call them up. They'll play it two times in

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:00.400
<v Speaker 9>a row. But when I started, they told me straight up.

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 9>I told people I'd never played I've heard people say

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 9>to me, I thought my audience would.

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 10>Never accept the black countries here.

0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 7>I thought I had.

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 10>But it's been twenty five years. I came along, Charlie

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 10>Proud had done anything.

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, let it not be said that you aren't familiar

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>with recording danger. Now the thing is that I I

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 1>thought that that was a natural thing, Like it wasn't

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 1>like I said, really, I felt like, oh, that makes

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>sense the same thing if Nald Richie were to make

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:38.439
<v Speaker 1>a straight up country record or whatever. You know, well,

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 1>yes he did, but I was just saying that it

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.760
<v Speaker 1>it makes sense to me only because, like, especially now

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that I get to talk to a lot of country

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:55.759
<v Speaker 1>acts that come on the Tonight Show, I'm slowly realizing

0:39:55.800 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that damn country acts have a lot of things in

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>common with Soul seventies acts, Like there's there's a passion

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>there that I thought it was a perfect fit.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 3>And so I mean, obviously, of course.

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 11>If you think about it, like Glass Night and the Pips,

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 11>the imagination now with Midnight Training Georgia, all countries.

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, you have.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 9>The porners sisters, they want to cantry Grammy.

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, the first one was a country, so neither one

0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 11>of us must be say good bye country something.

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that, so I because I

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>know that you were working with dra and Videll and

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot, what was that whole experience like doing that?

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 9>That's that's one of my that's still one of my

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 9>favorite records that I've ever been a part of. I

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 9>listened to that record probably three weeks ago. That was

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.920
<v Speaker 9>so much fun. Man, work with those guys, work with

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 9>Jill and and work with you know, with the I

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 9>was working with the characters here and working with Jazz

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 9>out in the LA. Where did you record the I

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 9>recorded some of it here, some of them in Philly.

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, it was. I mean, I love that. I love that.

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:57.919
<v Speaker 10>I still love that record.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 9>I think we've had some great songs on that record.

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.640
<v Speaker 9>You make me feel like I've sing the song.

0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 3>You love Lizabon know that.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 9>I mean only that, I hear.

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 10>So fun.

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I want having.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 10>You got so?

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 12>How would you got so?

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 10>Even got so? Help me too?

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 7>What was that like working in the studio with her?

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 10>Oh? Great, she came in.

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 9>We started writing that song, and you know, I was

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.239
<v Speaker 9>such a big fan, and and we start writing a

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 9>song and we get to the chorus and when we

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 9>started cutting, it was so sexy. You know, her voice

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 9>is so sexy, and I.

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 7>Was with her everything she gives us sex.

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 10>It was awesome.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 1>So, uh speak of your at least for the transformation into.

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 3>Going to the country world. How hard was that adjustment

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 3>for you?

0:42:11.000 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 10>For me, it was easy.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 9>I mean because I'm just I'm still still that kid

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.959
<v Speaker 9>from South Carolina that thinks he got lucky.

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 10>So like they were surprised.

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 9>Like when we got the first single and I went

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 9>to my label, I said, I want to be the

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 9>new guy. I said, I don't want to be. I

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 9>want to start from the bottom and work.

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 10>My way up. They're like, well, we had these ideas.

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.439
<v Speaker 9>I was like, well, I want to do a radio tour,

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 9>and they were shocked because they said they had talked

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 9>about it, but they didn't think I would do it.

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 9>And so I went to one hundred and ten radio

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 9>stations three or four day for five six weeks. I

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 9>mean every day, busting up, you know, talking to people,

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 9>shaking hands, kissing babies, playing for three people in the

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 9>conference room and doing all that.

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 3>How hard is it to.

0:42:54.680 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Make them this attached themselves from what your past was.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 10>That was the hardest part. That was the hardest part of.

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 3>How do you win that armless wrestling match.

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 10>To I just went in and was myself.

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 9>I just went in and talked, and that was me

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:13.840
<v Speaker 9>and and I visited and you know, you got for

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 9>have lunch and drink some beers. And have a good

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 9>time and people liked me and I had actually had

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 9>a good song.

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 8>Was there anybody that was mentoring you like that, anybody

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 8>that went through the process like you did that change genres?

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 9>And No, that was something that somebody said to me

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 9>that I thought of. It was like so many people

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 9>that have gone from popped and tried to trying to

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.759
<v Speaker 9>do country and I'm the only person that's that's made it.

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 9>And I was like, wow, I never even thought about that.

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.359
<v Speaker 9>But I mean, I've had a career. I got eight

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 9>number ones, I get a Grammy, I got five number

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 9>one records.

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 1>It was it's it was crazy, so okay for a

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>person that's never played there but has heard about the

0:43:53.120 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>folklore of the Grand ol Opry, what is what is

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the honor or the folkal of playing the Grand Old Opry?

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 9>And it's pretty sacred in country music.

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>It's it's like like, is it a jury that decides

0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll let you play this?

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 8>Or who?

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.280
<v Speaker 10>He tried to play there for years. They wouldn't let us.

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.480
<v Speaker 10>They would never let us on the stage.

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:18.760
<v Speaker 9>They just said, you're not a country band, you know.

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 9>And so the first time I played it was pretty awesome.

0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 9>It was just one of those out of buddy experiences,

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 9>because you know, and the day I got asked to

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 9>be a member was probably the first day I thought

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:31.720
<v Speaker 9>I was a part of the country music.

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>So is it like the Friars Club or it's like, explain,

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 1>do you know, can you explain for audience and me?

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 3>What is so okay?

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Assuming that you're a young start in Nashville, Like, is

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>your dream like one day.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, your dream is one day be a member of

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 9>the Grand Opera? And yeah, the play because everybody once

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 9>you're if you're in the business, you could play it.

0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.320
<v Speaker 9>If you're a country singer, you could get on the opry.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:06.240
<v Speaker 9>But becoming a member, you know, it's just an honor

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 9>that that that everybody in Nashville is trying to get.

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And what's like, what's a member like? Is it like

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the Rock and Hall Hall of Fame or is it

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>it's not.

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 3>It's not.

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 10>It's more like the Friars Club is probably a better

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:18.959
<v Speaker 10>way to describe it. It's it's a it's a big

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 10>fraternity of.

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 9>Musicians and we all give our time to the Opry

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:24.440
<v Speaker 9>and you know the.

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 10>Charity stuff that the Opry does and all that.

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 9>Stuff, and it's It's like everybody wants to be a member.

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>So who initiates the idea? Like does your manager call

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>them and say, hey, oh, they have.

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 3>To come to you.

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 9>You have to come to you and say do you

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 9>want to be a member of the Grand Opery?

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 7>Are you the only pepper and a salt?

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 9>Were you?

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Charlie as growing up as a kid with with like

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 1>limited uh television shows on but a lot of variety shows.

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I definitely remember, like Charlie Pride always seen him on

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>these variety shows in the seventies. But I'm not that

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>familiar with his discography, So I did he get a

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of play?

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 9>He got a lot of where we lived, Like I

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 9>was an AM radio kid, where I just sit and

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 9>flip through the radio and whatever song I liked, I'd

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:21.799
<v Speaker 9>stop on it.

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 10>And Charlie Pride, I.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 9>Mean, and even in our house because he was big

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 9>in our house, because it was one of the only

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 9>places you could see music. Yes, exactly exactly, And so

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:36.360
<v Speaker 9>you know I watched you.

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, I thought you said roll call.

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 7>I quoted it in my role.

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Call there is that roll call was derivative of but it.

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 7>Is also a dance in DC. We made up but.

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 9>Continue and so he was really big and he was

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 9>for me as a kid, I was always that kid

0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 9>who wanted to do something different, who always and I

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 9>always thought it was cool that Charlie Pride was, you know,

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 9>doing something that we weren't supposed to do. You know,

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 9>we weren't supposed to sing coutry music. And this guy

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 9>was not just saying country music. He was Entertainer of

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 9>the Year two years. You know, he hosted the CMAS

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 9>a couple of years, and I thought, this guy, you know,

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 9>he was somebody I definitely looked up to as a kid.

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh have you.

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's well with a lot of singers in

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the business, like some of them are kind of slow

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to meet someone more successful. I'm not saying like you're

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>idol or whatever you don't meet your heroes or whatever,

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>but do you guys have a relationship.

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.720
<v Speaker 10>We're friends. We're definitely friends.

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 9>We talk, we hang out when we when we can,

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 9>and the whole ebony and jet thing.

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 10>I didn't even think about that until Charlie said that

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 10>to me.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 9>Never And when he said that to me is when

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 9>I thought, I was like, Wow, I've never done it.

0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.040
<v Speaker 10>I was like because that's those kind of things. I

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 10>just let go because I'm like, it's just not gonna

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 10>happen what I do.

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 9>And then I thought, wow, Charlie Pride has never been

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 9>on the cover of Ebony or I mean, I was

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 9>like wow, And I was like, you know, I guess

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 9>I kind of understand me.

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 10>But that guy is I would, Oh you would? You

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 10>should have one of that. He's he'll tell you too.

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 7>Baseball player.

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:12.360
<v Speaker 3>He was a baseball player.

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:13.480
<v Speaker 10>I love what he Charlie.

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 9>Charlie's one of the guys you love to hang out

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.319
<v Speaker 9>with because he loves to tell stories and I'll sit

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 9>there for hours and just let him talk and just laugh.

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:22.719
<v Speaker 10>And he's you should have one. He's great.

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Dear, guys, have been doing please make this happen.

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.040
<v Speaker 7>Were you guys friends before you decided to do country or.

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.280
<v Speaker 10>We met when I started doing so when.

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 8>He found out, Like, what is the first initial conversation

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:32.919
<v Speaker 8>that you guys?

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:36.680
<v Speaker 9>Our first conversation was he was hosting the Opry and

0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 9>I was on the opery that night, and him and

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.800
<v Speaker 9>I got there early so we could sit in the

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 9>room just me and him.

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:43.399
<v Speaker 10>For an hour.

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Are laughing about getting there early?

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Yeah, I don't know that about that.

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Your country people get here.

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 3>What you got me? Man, you got me. So you

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:15.280
<v Speaker 3>guys got there earlier.

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 9>And we just sat and talked for like an hour,

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 9>an hour and a half. We just sat in the room,

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 9>just me and him and talked and I picked his

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 9>brain about you know, but his life and my life

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.560
<v Speaker 9>and what I can expect and and I'll be honest

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 9>with you.

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 10>One thing I.

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 9>Said to myself years ago, we were talking earlier about

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 9>the frat house and all that stuff.

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 10>I said to myself.

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:38.000
<v Speaker 9>Years ago, no matter what I go through, I can

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.919
<v Speaker 9>handle it because I can't imagine what Charlie Pride went through.

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 9>I can't imagine what he went through to succeed the

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 9>way he did. And I always said, if he could

0:49:47.480 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 9>take that, I could take whatever they got to throw

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 9>my way.

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:51.800
<v Speaker 8>But I'm almost scared for you because it's kind of

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 8>like a semi resurgence of Charlie.

0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:57.080
<v Speaker 10>Oh, you're right.

0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.280
<v Speaker 9>And the funny thing is the only time I've ever

0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 9>really experienced something that was just so blatantly racist at

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:04.920
<v Speaker 9>one of my shows is we're playing a show in

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 9>upstate New York. Upstate New York. I'm playing a show,

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 9>and all of a sudden we see these six giant,

0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 9>giant rebel flax and these guys are walking around the

0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:19.879
<v Speaker 9>crowd carrying real flax. So my boys are like, hell no,

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 9>so we all go together and they went out no Darius,

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:25.560
<v Speaker 9>and these guys went out and grabbed these you know,

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.560
<v Speaker 9>grab these cats. And these cats were straight up we

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 9>are the local chapter in the KK.

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 7>Were to people don't know about the are you?

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 9>We were like, y'all get out of here, y'all got

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 9>to go.

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 10>We kicked them out.

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 3>It was three years some of the world is we're

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 3>here to visiting?

0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:46.279
<v Speaker 11>Thing about it all?

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Like why is that road playing?

0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 9>Hair Rosa, stay at ouse walls tied in here and

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:57.080
<v Speaker 9>then sit out here and tam world.

0:50:56.840 --> 0:51:06.280
<v Speaker 13>Over us where no matter all, we got him here again.

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Gun, You don't guy, what you see in a.

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 5>Glance on the street?

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:14.280
<v Speaker 6>What do you want to see?

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 11>Okay, Well, since we're talking about this is really appropriate,

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 11>can you talk about the song Drowning, which seems to

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 11>be quite as relevant now as it was twenty years

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 11>ago when it was first released.

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 9>You know, we uh, the rebel flag used to be

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 9>on top of our state house like it would be

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 9>the US flags, the South Kin flag, and the red

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 9>flag flying over the state House. So there was a

0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 9>big controversy that we just wanted it take him down.

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 9>We wanted it take him down. And so one night

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 9>I was out at the bars and there was this cat.

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 9>He was a homeless cat and he uh, his name

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 9>was Spider. We all call him Spider, and he's he's

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 9>sitting on the thing. And so I went back in

0:51:47.760 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 9>the bar and I grab two beers and I go

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.439
<v Speaker 9>down and I sit next to Spider and we start

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:53.360
<v Speaker 9>talking and we figuring about beer before I go to

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.360
<v Speaker 9>the next bar, and we start talking about the rebel flag.

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 9>And he, you know, he knew the band, and he

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 9>said to me one thing. He said, you know all

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 9>the you know, all the hate, that hate that's going on.

0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 9>You said, you know, it's you the hate. And I

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 9>went wow.

0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:05.920
<v Speaker 10>He's like, well, I was like, what do you mean.

0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 10>He was like, you know they're playing with these white boys,

0:52:07.600 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 10>You're the one they really hate.

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 3>And I went wow.

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 9>And I went home that night and I wrote Drowning

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 9>and Drowning it's a protest song. I mean, there's no

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 9>other ways you could say. It's a protest song. And uh,

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 9>I just I wanted to. I was so frustrated and

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:23.359
<v Speaker 9>that night and I was so like taken aback by

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 9>what spider it said that I sat down and you know,

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:29.200
<v Speaker 9>and I wrote it, and you know, when it came down,

0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 9>that was one of the songs they were playing at

0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 9>the State House when they were taking it down, and

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:33.319
<v Speaker 9>I thought that was pretty cool.

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 8>Wow, that's do you stand it with the So now

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 8>you know, now that the flag issue is down, now

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.239
<v Speaker 8>there's the statue issue. I'm just curious because I know

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 8>South Carolina. You know, they've been pulling statues down around there.

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 9>The thing that the thing that kills me about, Uh,

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 9>all the people will go you know where you're forget

0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 9>the history. These are the people who came to be

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:59.480
<v Speaker 9>these patriotic Americans, and the South tried to destroy the Union,

0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 9>they tried to destroy what America was when America and

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 9>also they could keep black people with slaves and they

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:09.359
<v Speaker 9>were terrorists and they were you know, and they want

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 9>to keep that up. But all those were put up

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:13.520
<v Speaker 9>in the Jim Crow era and they were put up

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 9>to to show black people we are still you know,

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 9>we're still the man. We hate it, We're going to

0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 9>put all these things up, and people don't realize that,

0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 9>you know, that wasn't put up in eighteen eighty.

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:24.319
<v Speaker 7>We think that it was.

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 9>They think that it was, but it was, and it

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 9>was put up to doing Jim Crow to keep black

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.920
<v Speaker 9>people in their place, so to say. And so I'm

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:32.959
<v Speaker 9>good with taking them down.

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So based on what's going on now, I mean, how

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 1>awkward is it doing press in that circuit, especially with

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.080
<v Speaker 1>what's going on now. I know that you're a big

0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>sports fanatic, and it's almost like every day you wake up,

0:53:56.360 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 1>everyone America wakes up sort of panic stricken because they're

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>not knowing what's going to be reported next on the news.

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 3>And second me.

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Turning on and now just dealing with the White House

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and the National Anthem and football and everything. I mean,

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>how hard is it to just sell your product in

0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 1>that marketplace and and kind of step between, uh.

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, landmindes.

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Of of of avoiding being a spokesperson or content.

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<v Speaker 10>And and the thing.

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<v Speaker 9>For me, it's hard both ways because like I sing

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 9>the Nashay, I was in London singing the national anthem

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 9>just a little while ago. But I just the way

0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 9>I was raised, I can't kneel during the anthem. I

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 9>understand why they do trust me. I've been stopped. I've

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:52.919
<v Speaker 9>been stopped for driving a nice car a million times.

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 9>I got brothers and cousins and uncles and friends, and

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 9>I'm totally with what the what what those guys are protested,

0:54:59.320 --> 0:55:01.440
<v Speaker 9>you know, and I get a there. But then you know,

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:04.040
<v Speaker 9>like you said, you're all trying to sell a product

0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 9>and people want to talk about what's going on, and you,

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 9>you know, you.

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 10>Say the wrong thing. Look at the Dixie Chicks. You

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 10>say the.

0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.879
<v Speaker 9>Wrong thing one time, and your career could be over.

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 9>I mean, you know, career suicide country country, especially especially

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:20.280
<v Speaker 9>in country. You got, you got? The Dixie Chicks said

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 9>one offhand thing. The day before they said that they

0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 9>were the most played band on country radio by far,

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.439
<v Speaker 9>the day they said that they haven't played since. I've

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 9>never heard a Dixie Chicks song on the country read

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 9>I listen to coutry radio all the time. I've never

0:55:33.719 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 9>heard a Dixie Chick song. And that that you know,

0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 9>you look at that, and so you stay true to

0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:40.879
<v Speaker 9>I stay true to who I am. You know I do.

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 9>If you ask me a question, I'll answer. I answered

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:44.799
<v Speaker 9>the way that I want to answer it. But it's

0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.399
<v Speaker 9>like it's such a fine line to walk out there,

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.279
<v Speaker 9>you know, because you want you always want to do

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 9>the right thing, but then you have to think about

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 9>you know, about this, about my career, about all this,

0:55:53.320 --> 0:55:55.399
<v Speaker 9>and so it's tough getting it sold, but you've got

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:56.160
<v Speaker 9>to go out there and work.

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't sound like you you asked to be a

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 2>spokesperson for race, but you seem to have. It seems

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 2>to be this responsibility that's been put upon you just

0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>because of these lines that you seem to be walking.

0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 3>What is that like?

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I don't think you know, Like I

0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like some people they want to talk about race

0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:16.240
<v Speaker 2>and it's very important to them, and this just feels

0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 2>like where you live and the genres that you jump

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 2>between your automatically that's sort of yeah, whether whether you

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 2>want it or not, which is.

0:56:24.719 --> 0:56:27.399
<v Speaker 3>And it's just ridiculous, but like it's kind of part

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 3>of being black.

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Well okay, white person. I'm just that I don't know

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:32.200
<v Speaker 2>what that's like.

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Whenever I'm in this situation, I have a fear of like,

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>oh God, please don't let an awkward statement happen.

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Please, I just want to I just want to go

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:41.839
<v Speaker 3>to Starbucks and get my coffee. I live that every

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:42.720
<v Speaker 3>day and whatever.

0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:47.359
<v Speaker 9>So yeah, like I did the CBS Saturday Morning thing

0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:50.560
<v Speaker 9>and it goes so crazy because I did the CBS

0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:53.000
<v Speaker 9>Saturday Morning thing and you know, I was doing exactly

0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:55.960
<v Speaker 9>what you're saying. Don't let me say something awkward something,

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 9>you know, And because I started talking about the.

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 3>EMU, not even you, I'm just from with other people.

0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.280
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, oh yeah, coming like some question or something that

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.359
<v Speaker 9>that gets me to say something. And then I go, well, right,

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 9>come on man, you know, like you know, it's just

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 9>it's a fun line.

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:12.880
<v Speaker 8>Plus you're like a double agent in a way, so

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 8>I feel like you have information, you know what I mean,

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 8>you don't. I'm sorry if we're asking to me question like,

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 8>oh I know there's I'm like, what do you do

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 8>when they talk about the NRAs.

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:22.720
<v Speaker 3>It's so much.

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:23.600
<v Speaker 7>They're all your fans.

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 8>Man, it's fascinating. You're fascinating. You should be on the

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 8>cover of Ebony.

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, make it happen you please.

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, how hard is it to navigate a career and

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 1>a personal life?

0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Like away from your career? Like, are you a twenty

0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 1>four hour I have to constantly tour.

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I have to always make music.

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Is it just like, Okay, I want time off to

0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, have a family life for that sort of thing, Like,

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:02.200
<v Speaker 1>how hard is it to.

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 9>I think that's probably the main reason I live in Charleston.

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 9>It's because the place where I live, everybody knows me,

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:11.240
<v Speaker 9>like I've been living there. I've been living in the

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 9>same neighborhood for twenty years now. Everybody knows me. They've

0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 9>they've you know, I grew up with a lot of

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 9>people like I played the show the other night and

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 9>I knew half the people in the crowd. And so uh,

0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:25.360
<v Speaker 9>because I don't have to work all the time. I

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.360
<v Speaker 9>love being off. I love being with my kids. I

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 9>love being home with the family. I love that. And

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:32.680
<v Speaker 9>so I lived there so I could just have a

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 9>normal life because really, outside of my job, my life's

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 9>pretty pretty normal, you'd be. I mean, like, people are

0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 9>surprised when they hang out with me because I go

0:58:40.000 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 9>to I go to Walmart and Target every day.

0:58:41.920 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 8>I go to the grocery store every day.

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I do.

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you wouldn't see me. I love it.

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 8>What's it like being around because all your brothers and

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:51.800
<v Speaker 8>sisters are still in the area too, righte, So not

0:58:51.840 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 8>to be all up in your business.

0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 3>But since you did.

0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 8>But since you did have such a successful band, you

0:58:57.640 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 8>are such a successful artist, do you to I've learned

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.480
<v Speaker 8>this request let retire people like are there certain people

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 8>that you like?

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 7>You know, like certain your older brothers and sisters. You're like,

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 7>don't worry about.

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 3>It, you have a hanger on.

0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 9>There was, yes, there was a minute question.

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:16.200
<v Speaker 7>Made it pretty.

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:17.960
<v Speaker 9>There was one thing I said to my sisters and

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 9>brothers when cracked reviews started taking off. You know, I said,

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:24.280
<v Speaker 9>I love you guys. I said, I love you guys.

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.680
<v Speaker 9>And you guys will never be kicked out of your house. Okay,

0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:29.800
<v Speaker 9>you always have a car. But we are not rich.

0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 7>I am rich.

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:33.520
<v Speaker 10>I will take care of you.

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:34.280
<v Speaker 3>I will make sure.

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.320
<v Speaker 9>I will make sure you never ever if you're if

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 9>you're four months late on your on your mortgage, call me.

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 7>You're not getting a new house.

0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 9>But you ain't getting a brand new house just because

0:59:42.760 --> 0:59:44.439
<v Speaker 9>you want to have and I'm not writing a check

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 9>for it.

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 3>And and where were you?

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 7>You don't have as many brothers and.

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:51.840
<v Speaker 10>These they know they can call me anything.

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:52.200
<v Speaker 3>They know.

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 9>If they called me and say, you know, Darius. I'm

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 9>gonna buyd I'm gonna be there in a minute with

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.240
<v Speaker 9>cash or check or whatever you need. But don't expect

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.720
<v Speaker 9>me to change your life this. I can't change it

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:04.200
<v Speaker 9>because I want to. I want to stay this way.

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:05.760
<v Speaker 9>I don't want to be broken. I have not a

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:09.200
<v Speaker 9>nate fear of being broke some day. I grew up poor,

1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:11.600
<v Speaker 9>you know what. I have to just great fear being

1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:12.800
<v Speaker 9>broke some day, and I haven't it.

1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I just want to take about seventeen seconds to appreciate

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:24.120
<v Speaker 1>this moment. First, the Dyla siren, Okay, because it's just

1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:29.880
<v Speaker 1>hit me that there's a black man in this business

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that has went diamond, Yes, that shows up on time early, early, early,

1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't have uh street dreams and aspirations. Because naturally,

1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking even whatever, I mean, even whatever, my my

1:00:52.760 --> 1:00:59.160
<v Speaker 1>faux humble approach, you know, even I'm thinking like, okay, Diamond, Yeah, definitely,

1:00:59.440 --> 1:01:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have a yacht and twelve houses and blah

1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>blah blah.

1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:06.640
<v Speaker 2>But twelve oh for your record collect You just have

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:08.120
<v Speaker 2>storage spaces for your record collection.

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they got to have a home too, No,

1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying that you're you're totally going against

1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the narrative of someone that.

1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Should. I mean, just every person I know that's in

1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:23.960
<v Speaker 3>your position.

1:01:24.440 --> 1:01:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Has family and friends that they have to carry on

1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:29.760
<v Speaker 1>their back.

1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:32.320
<v Speaker 3>They have to show up late. You know.

1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:38.400
<v Speaker 1>There, I know someone who's ex wives live in a commune,

1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:48.680
<v Speaker 1>a gated commune. I showed you, Oh, I'd like to

1:01:48.680 --> 1:01:52.400
<v Speaker 1>see we have, But you said that, you know, like

1:01:52.640 --> 1:01:56.160
<v Speaker 1>if the mentality, especially with black folks, like if one

1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of you is rich, we all rich?

1:01:58.640 --> 1:01:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Where not?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know how to say the word no?

1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:05.520
<v Speaker 12>Oh, well, you were smart enough to do it early,

1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:10.920
<v Speaker 12>which means that you might have had foresight that this

1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:13.200
<v Speaker 12>might be a big thing.

1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:16.600
<v Speaker 9>Yeah. I mean when it started taking off, I realized

1:02:16.600 --> 1:02:18.600
<v Speaker 9>it was going to be a big thing.

1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.720
<v Speaker 1>And and how how hard could you How long could

1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you sort of squelch and hide?

1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I had to do that. I still have my first car,

1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm still driving my same you know.

1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:36.880
<v Speaker 7>It's I have.

1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:38.080
<v Speaker 10>I have one house.

1:02:38.200 --> 1:02:40.080
<v Speaker 3>I keep it just for it's not very big.

1:02:40.120 --> 1:02:42.439
<v Speaker 9>I got one house, not very big because I didn't

1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:43.760
<v Speaker 9>want a big house, because I didn't want my kids

1:02:43.760 --> 1:02:44.960
<v Speaker 9>to be able to get lost in it. You know,

1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:47.000
<v Speaker 9>you got twenty five hour square foot house.

1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:47.479
<v Speaker 2>You could.

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<v Speaker 9>You cannot find your kids if you want to. I

1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:53.080
<v Speaker 9>got a nice house. I drive a free car, you know,

1:02:53.480 --> 1:02:53.880
<v Speaker 9>free car?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, damn. Marino told me a long time ago.

1:02:55.680 --> 1:03:05.400
<v Speaker 9>Let your let your community take care of you. Yeah, Charlie,

1:03:08.720 --> 1:03:11.360
<v Speaker 9>he told me that he's right, let your community take you.

1:03:11.360 --> 1:03:11.800
<v Speaker 7>Can't do that.

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:15.000
<v Speaker 9>Marino hadn't paid for a car since he was a rookie.

1:03:15.360 --> 1:03:17.080
<v Speaker 9>His kids get free cars dealership.

1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wait, that can happen. Ye have a.

1:03:20.760 --> 1:03:22.880
<v Speaker 7>Suburban man radio DJ get that.

1:03:23.080 --> 1:03:24.480
<v Speaker 9>I get a new one every six months.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know any d J gigs I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do to get my birthday gift downstairs?

1:03:29.800 --> 1:03:31.000
<v Speaker 7>Well, your birthday gift downstairs?

1:03:31.000 --> 1:03:32.520
<v Speaker 5>A no sigh, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>There ain't no suburban.

1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure maybe some cousins are listening right now, Yes

1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:44.000
<v Speaker 1>they are. Wait, how does that happen? Okay, now I

1:03:44.040 --> 1:03:48.880
<v Speaker 1>need you to mention. Marino told me, oh he did.

1:03:49.560 --> 1:03:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I did not know I could ask for the stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>Dude. You just get to get with the right guy.

1:03:56.600 --> 1:04:00.880
<v Speaker 8>And athletes know because they're always getting those those deals, because.

1:04:01.520 --> 1:04:07.000
<v Speaker 1>As I also come from management that uh, well them

1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:10.360
<v Speaker 1>free Well no, no, no, it's it's just they they they

1:04:10.800 --> 1:04:16.480
<v Speaker 1>successfully for the longest, talked us out of that lifestyle.

1:04:17.200 --> 1:04:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, Like again, I got my

1:04:20.040 --> 1:04:22.040
<v Speaker 1>license when I was thirty four.

1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:24.080
<v Speaker 3>I got my first car when I was thirty four.

1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:26.600
<v Speaker 7>It was traumatic, wow around.

1:04:28.480 --> 1:04:30.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we were a touring band.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the whole logic was even how I met Jimmy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I finally begged and begged and begged and

1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:35.920
<v Speaker 1>baked and big, let me.

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<v Speaker 3>Get a house in La please. First day out there,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's like, crap, gotta move back, you know,

1:04:43.640 --> 1:04:50.000
<v Speaker 1>East Coast. So whenever I try to really floss, you know,

1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:54.600
<v Speaker 1>it's it's always backfire. So I was even talked out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of would you like me to floss on your behalf?

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<v Speaker 10>Just give me the access to this what's.

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<v Speaker 8>Happening and don't floss. He don't flows Although I'm sure

1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:03.760
<v Speaker 8>those boots aren't cheap.

1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:05.720
<v Speaker 3>I know. I was like, I was looking at the.

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<v Speaker 7>Where did that snake come from? Ye?

1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:17.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get a picture that boost on Instagram later.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah. I like my boots.

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<v Speaker 9>I've had they made a rattlesnake?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes they are? Ye?

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<v Speaker 7>Did you kill it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Daris? Can you tell me? Is it rude? To ask

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<v Speaker 7>somebody they have like they have their license. Is that rude?

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<v Speaker 9>No, that's not rude.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I can't ask.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody not a driver's license, gun license that.

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<v Speaker 9>I can learn from you everybody's got a license.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, no, I asked, because he said he killed him.

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<v Speaker 9>Even I know I don't think you did he I

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<v Speaker 9>would have ran from the snake, but it let.

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<v Speaker 8>Me in my mind and think, Damn, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 8>Dari's hunts, like you know, you're in that world, blah

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<v Speaker 8>blah blah.

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<v Speaker 10>I got a gun license.

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<v Speaker 3>The other white people, of course you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all the white folks.

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<v Speaker 8>Question country not white, because you know it's more to

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<v Speaker 8>white people.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you, and why are you all the white questions?

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<v Speaker 7>You don't know about Southern country white neither business.

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<v Speaker 5>They're married a Southern white country person, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 10>She loves me too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 9>That you see that key and peels thing that they

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<v Speaker 9>did on me. They they schedule me and say we're down,

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<v Speaker 9>and we're down in Nashville and we're doing the show.

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<v Speaker 10>And I said, hey, I'm doing nice to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I love you.

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<v Speaker 10>We love Darius.

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<v Speaker 7>That's good.

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<v Speaker 9>I love it when you're on the standing labor means

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<v Speaker 9>you made it. I love that stuff. I don't care

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<v Speaker 9>what they say.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it all right? So what what are you not?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you about the cars? Aren't you?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean for you? Is it?

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still in my head even though I have a

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<v Speaker 1>question life after when was the last time? I'm still thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>like how do I get a free car? So as

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<v Speaker 1>far as your your career is concerned, like what would

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<v Speaker 1>you hope is your legacy? And as far as like

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<v Speaker 1>what you're at the end of the day, like is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything that you've not achieved besides eminine jet you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do electronic connections?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 9>No, The only thing, honestly, the only thing I haven't

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<v Speaker 9>done that I want to do is I'm ever since

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<v Speaker 9>I can remember, ever since really Notorious Big was was

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<v Speaker 9>killing it. I want to sing the hook on a

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<v Speaker 9>big rap record so much. I want I want to

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<v Speaker 9>be Nate Dog so bad. Oh, I'm dying to I

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<v Speaker 9>mean dying.

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<v Speaker 2>You can help dying too.

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<v Speaker 11>You know something, I know the Carolina connections, duet.

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<v Speaker 3>I want you have to get married now.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk to you way too high. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk to you after the show.

1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Because I have a project you might be interested in.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an album, but it's concerning that very person,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are the perfect person to do.

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<v Speaker 3>This the question love, I'm serious. Script, Everyone's like, what

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<v Speaker 3>are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 9>I want to say this. You could ask me to

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<v Speaker 9>sing pooh, pooh pooh. And the respect that I've have

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<v Speaker 9>that I have for you, and I love you and

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<v Speaker 9>I love the roots, I would do whatever you wanted

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<v Speaker 9>me to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it absolutely. Okay, I guess I will reveal

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<v Speaker 3>it because I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it a secret because of uh, well, twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>coming up will be uh somewhat of a notable anniversary

1:09:02.960 --> 1:09:06.400
<v Speaker 1>year for a lot of seminal classics and music of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety three. I've been we've been going back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth with the Dre camp trying to figure out a

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<v Speaker 1>way how to celebrate his twenty five year milestone with

1:09:26.600 --> 1:09:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the Chronic and Doggy Style both are in their twenty fives,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're still in the talking stage right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the one of these snags and the thing

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, who's going to be Nate Dog and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been racking.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still in I will cancel my tour.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think your manager will be happy about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And you can show up five minutes.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'll away for you all, and then.

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<v Speaker 7>We can talk about getting him in the museum. Hope

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<v Speaker 7>he's there. I just I'm assuming, Yeah, the Smithsonian.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm not in this spisode.

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<v Speaker 7>Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think I am.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't think we're gonna check on that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's probably one of the most amazing experiences

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<v Speaker 1>of any well for black people, especially to see that

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<v Speaker 1>museum in d C.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, yeah, it's we need more white folks to go see.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you know, you kidding. Have you seen the lines?

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<v Speaker 10>I know I've seen the lines.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, it is it's almost like I want more

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<v Speaker 1>black trust me.

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<v Speaker 7>We sold it out the first year and now it's

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<v Speaker 7>on them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it's it's you know, but it's I shall

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<v Speaker 1>make it. Shout out to Timothy and yes, her name

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<v Speaker 1>is Timothy.

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<v Speaker 7>No ebony because you're gonna be in the Smithsonian.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye, why.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides besides singing on a rap hook and see we

1:11:20.160 --> 1:11:23.040
<v Speaker 1>can make that happen. What are some of your other

1:11:23.120 --> 1:11:25.479
<v Speaker 1>bucket listing like, like, do you still get it itching

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<v Speaker 1>to do sports commentary?

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, I always tell the local sports guy

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<v Speaker 9>and Charleston that when I retire, he just's he's just

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<v Speaker 9>holding my seat for me, and he hates when I

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<v Speaker 9>say that. But I might do that when I But

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<v Speaker 9>like musically, I mean, I'm still so far above where

1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:43.479
<v Speaker 9>I thought that would ever be. There's really not much

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<v Speaker 9>else that I want to do. Really, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>I'm just I'm having a blast where I am. First,

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<v Speaker 9>I'd like to do this for four or five more

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<v Speaker 9>years if it's you know, but I want to be relevant.

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<v Speaker 10>If it's over, you know, I'll.

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<v Speaker 9>Still tour and everything, but I'm not gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 9>force it down anybody's throat or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there such thing as retirement.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think it's.

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<v Speaker 9>I think retirement means you just play, you know, fifty

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<v Speaker 9>shows a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just saying that if you can stop and

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<v Speaker 1>just let the checks come in or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the residual game is like as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like songs being licensed.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, I hate to admit that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have I mentioned the Friends thing already? Oh god, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I fell down. You guys are in one episode one

1:12:29.320 --> 1:12:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of yourselves in yes, okay, early earlier this summer, when

1:12:33.080 --> 1:12:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I took the one vacation I ever take a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Yang of Masters of None, Master of None fame

1:12:42.120 --> 1:12:46.800
<v Speaker 1>with Diseasin Sorry, directed a jay Z video in which

1:12:46.840 --> 1:12:51.360
<v Speaker 1>they perfectly mirrored a Friends episode, but Nerd asked me

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<v Speaker 1>had to watch both episodes to see if they had

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<v Speaker 1>it cut for cut, and then somehow I may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not have watched all two hundred and thirty. I

1:13:03.360 --> 1:13:06.080
<v Speaker 1>fell down a vicious rabbit, Friends rabbit. I don't know

1:13:06.120 --> 1:13:06.720
<v Speaker 1>why I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had nothing to do.

1:13:08.000 --> 1:13:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I was in Chef Gordon's backyard, and you know, literally

1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:14.759
<v Speaker 1>every day I watched season for season for seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know that there is a hoodie song in there.

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<v Speaker 1>But as far as like licensing songs for movies and

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<v Speaker 1>those things and commercials and that stuff, like, it's.

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<v Speaker 10>It's still pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's one able to retire and not have to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can you say no to that?

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<v Speaker 9>Not?

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<v Speaker 3>Family members?

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<v Speaker 9>Like, yeah, I could, I could retire right, I could

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<v Speaker 9>retire right now and live a pretty good life.

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<v Speaker 7>I looking at you. I'm not gonna rob you, Darius.

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<v Speaker 7>I just looking.

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<v Speaker 3>She's trying to get my face. Well, man, I thank

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<v Speaker 3>you very much for coming on that show. We appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>Congratulations on his brand new album as well too.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah the last time, thanks a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you watched two hundred and fifty episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's two hundred and thirty six ship, I've only seen one.

1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:07.280
<v Speaker 2>That's like, that's true, I've only seen one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a complete this man.

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<v Speaker 13>You know this is not gonna go over Well, there's

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<v Speaker 13>only one reason why somebody would watch all those episodes

1:14:21.160 --> 1:14:21.599
<v Speaker 13>of Friends.

1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:23.920
<v Speaker 2>What's that they have no real Friends.

1:14:26.720 --> 1:14:26.920
<v Speaker 4>Show?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, way go, way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what what are your plans? Well with the

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<v Speaker 1>new album, are you going to tour?

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<v Speaker 10>What are you going to tour next year?

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<v Speaker 9>We're going to do a few shows here at the

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<v Speaker 9>end of the year, and then I'll probably take November

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<v Speaker 9>December off and uh going to Australia I think at

1:14:42.520 --> 1:14:44.519
<v Speaker 9>the end of February March while the go to Europe

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<v Speaker 9>for a minute, then coming to the States.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't you play the Apollo recently?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I heard about that Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 7>What was that like for you, that's like Ebony magazine.

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<v Speaker 9>When we were kids. You guys know, when we were kids,

1:14:55.800 --> 1:14:58.840
<v Speaker 9>we didn't talk about the Garden. We didn't talk about

1:14:58.840 --> 1:15:01.680
<v Speaker 9>the Colisee, even Chlobe. We about playing the Apollo. And

1:15:01.720 --> 1:15:03.800
<v Speaker 9>I always wanted to play the Pollow. And when they

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<v Speaker 9>had the show, show Time at the Pollow, who you

1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:07.759
<v Speaker 9>got to play on the stage? You play two songs

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<v Speaker 9>on show Time at the Apollo. Our second record we

1:15:13.520 --> 1:15:16.200
<v Speaker 9>played played the TV show Show at the Apollo.

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<v Speaker 3>How did that come out? What was that like?

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<v Speaker 9>It was? It was a little different, no booze.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, I was drunk.

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<v Speaker 9>But Thursday night, Thursday night, we set a record for

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<v Speaker 9>white people in the Apollo. Yeah, it was, it was,

1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:39.720
<v Speaker 9>it was. It was awesome, that's true. Yeah, they played

1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:42.120
<v Speaker 9>the Apollo. McCartney played the Apollo too, so they probably

1:15:42.160 --> 1:15:44.800
<v Speaker 9>had us. We were probably even.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was.

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<v Speaker 9>It was.

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<v Speaker 10>Greater than I ever thought it was.

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<v Speaker 9>It was such a great show and be on that

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<v Speaker 9>stage and we like broke out some Temptation songs and

1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:54.280
<v Speaker 9>and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 10>It was. It was nice, man, It was great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you mix up the repertoire of songs you like

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<v Speaker 3>to cover your show.

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<v Speaker 9>It always because I was I still love covers. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>a cover band singer. I mean, so we'll break out

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<v Speaker 9>like we break we do this thing where we do

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<v Speaker 9>uh Garth Brooks, Uh friends and no places right in

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<v Speaker 9>the no diggity Wow. It's crazy, I mean back to back,

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<v Speaker 9>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 11>Works to bring up my Garth Brooks analogy. What your

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<v Speaker 11>R and B record? Chris Gaines?

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<v Speaker 9>Remember that Chris Gaines Records Actually.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't concept my stuff, Like, oh, I thought it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a good concept.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not think of it think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>At home, but I think you he definitely got more tracks.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh yeah, definitely, definitely definitely. Garth kind of ran screaming

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<v Speaker 11>after that failed.

1:16:47.000 --> 1:16:50.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, it was weird. I think when he came

1:16:50.840 --> 1:16:53.200
<v Speaker 3>on our show. It was supposed to come on the show. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>One of his one of Garth's uh the Internet songs

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<v Speaker 1>like the extra songs that we do on the show

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<v Speaker 1>was from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. What was the name of his? Chris, Chris Gaines.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you have country friends.

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<v Speaker 9>You know like other countries with all those Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 9>the one thing about the community.

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<v Speaker 10>Country music community is real.

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<v Speaker 9>Try I got on my record, I got Luke Brian

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<v Speaker 9>Jason Aldean all one on the same song.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, those are my boys. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Question about the industry, the country music industry.

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<v Speaker 11>I have a pretty good idea of what most people's

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<v Speaker 11>grapes are within the R and B and hip hop industry.

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<v Speaker 11>What do you not like about the country music music industry?

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<v Speaker 9>Radio is so slow, Like right now on radio is

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<v Speaker 9>in such a slow burn with songs, and it takes

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<v Speaker 9>if you're not one of the five big ones, it

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<v Speaker 9>could take thirty weeks for your for your for your

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<v Speaker 9>song to go up to charts and number I think

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<v Speaker 9>my last number one took like forty weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the same system as so with hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of clear channel uh related stuff. Songs

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<v Speaker 1>are added way ahead of time, so you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're taking Beyonce's newest song that hasn't come out yet,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll pre program it. Wait, you know, weeks ahead of time?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is it more moment because I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with a lot of the record sales, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Walmart plays a bit like they're still buying

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<v Speaker 1>physical copy. Is radio still ten fifteen years behind as

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<v Speaker 1>far as ads and as far as the country world is?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh? Yeah, yeah, it's still they you know, they add it,

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<v Speaker 9>and you know, you get you're the most added song

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<v Speaker 9>of the week, and you still don't make the top forty.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't make the top fifty, you know, just because

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<v Speaker 9>you're getting spent. You're getting spun at three in the

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<v Speaker 9>morning and four in the morning, five and then.

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<v Speaker 10>It's a slow build.

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<v Speaker 9>They just want to build and they want to build,

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<v Speaker 9>and I don't know, it's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know why it's like that, And it's like

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<v Speaker 9>that for everybody Taylor, because I'm wondering, Okay, Taylor, like

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<v Speaker 9>Taylor's a unicorn and she.

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<v Speaker 8>Doesn't even new country automatic.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't count like Kenny Rogers. Well no, even than

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Rogers still get played on. Let me don't Scooby

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<v Speaker 1>do me yet? No, just meaning that she's more pop ubiquitous,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what I thought in the country. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, you know, are you chilling with like uh

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Musgraves.

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<v Speaker 10>Or yeah, absolutely, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Stapleton, Yeah, Chris.

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<v Speaker 9>Chris, I've written two three of my number ones together, or.

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<v Speaker 3>The real deal.

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<v Speaker 10>He's the real deal. This is how good he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was like every time he performs, man, we're

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<v Speaker 1>always like damn, he got us again, Like.

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<v Speaker 10>Dude, this is how good he is. When we write

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<v Speaker 10>a song.

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<v Speaker 9>He can't sing the demo because he sang the demo

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<v Speaker 9>to one of my number ones, and I wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 9>cut it because he so freaking good. I kept saying

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<v Speaker 9>to my producer, I haven't seen you.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you would be a Chris Stable to stand what

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<v Speaker 1>you married?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean like you he Yeah, he must be cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I would want Chris Stapleton on the Roots album, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how good he is.

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<v Speaker 8>But Darius record first because you already told him that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we already got that. But I'm just saying, that's

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<v Speaker 3>how dope he is, Like he's listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I should I I'm trying to look under the hood

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<v Speaker 1>to see, you know, what was there and you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's he's the real deal man.

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<v Speaker 10>And Chris is doing it without radio player.

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<v Speaker 9>Chris is never I don't think Christ has ever had

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<v Speaker 9>a record the top ten and he's got the number

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<v Speaker 9>one selling record. How's he killing Yeah? I don't know

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<v Speaker 9>he's killing it because people know it's real to go

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<v Speaker 9>in the shild and everything. I don't think Chris has

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<v Speaker 9>ever had a record in the top ten.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh so he's like too short maybe catching up in

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<v Speaker 7>that way though, Like there's a lot of people you progressive,

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I like him, so that's how progressive he is.

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<v Speaker 10>He's great, he's a real deal.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just it's off the chain.

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<v Speaker 8>So, man, have you ever seen gone to a club

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<v Speaker 8>and see another black person saying country? I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 8>see who's after Darius.

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<v Speaker 9>King Brown who's got a number one right now, His

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<v Speaker 9>record's number one this week King Brown. And there's a

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<v Speaker 9>couple of other young ladies that are coming that are

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<v Speaker 9>coming up that are trying to Mickey Guyton is one

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<v Speaker 9>trying to get a foothold, you know, trying to get

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<v Speaker 9>a hit. And uh, there's there's a few I think

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<v Speaker 9>me coming over and having success. I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 9>I open doors, but that that that A and R

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<v Speaker 9>person who would have looked at the CD and so

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<v Speaker 9>is the black person and throw it in the trash

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<v Speaker 9>probably gives it a listen now.

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<v Speaker 10>And and so there's there's Guy's coming along.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a black hockey player now too.

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<v Speaker 9>There's a lot of we're taking hockey. Yeah, there's like

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<v Speaker 9>fourteen of us at hockey.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're a.

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<v Speaker 2>Black hockey goalie too. Have you ever seen that that's

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate nominally that exists?

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<v Speaker 9>How could you say that? With Grant Furre was one

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<v Speaker 9>of the greatest ever.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Sports references Now we go super deep on college football

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 10>If you want to be good, goes Dems. You want

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<v Speaker 10>to go man.

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<v Speaker 2>Game Cock is not doing so well this year.

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<v Speaker 9>We'll talk about we're four, we're five and two. Who

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<v Speaker 9>take me at you again?

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<v Speaker 3>They'll just give it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I come from an Auburn My ex wife the same

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<v Speaker 2>one who's from Alabama, she is an Auburn fan. And

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be as a Jewish kid from Long Island. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what that's like until you get there, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's fucking insane.

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely sanity absolute.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it such a religion though?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they don't there's nothing else.

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<v Speaker 9>There's nothing else. There's no pro teams. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 9>pro teams in the area. Like we got the Falcons,

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<v Speaker 9>so we got Charlotte. But like and and and the

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<v Speaker 9>thing is, when you go to school for four or

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<v Speaker 9>five years, you you're invested in it. And when your

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<v Speaker 9>football team is I mean football is everything in the Southeast.

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<v Speaker 9>Everything Saturday stops. Saturday stops like my tailgating spot. It

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<v Speaker 9>was one of the few things I've spurs done.

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<v Speaker 5>The shoes.

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<v Speaker 9>So much money on this tailgate spot. But for me,

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<v Speaker 9>it's like I want to go be able to tailgate

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<v Speaker 9>without people, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Without people by my friends are there?

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<v Speaker 7>Isn't not Your tailgate spot is not outside.

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<v Speaker 9>You know what's out? You got a la since then,

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<v Speaker 9>I got me a big old it's called I got

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<v Speaker 9>a big old caboose that's in there.

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<v Speaker 5>I love these over Yeah tails crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awesome, Am.

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<v Speaker 10>And we get there four hours before the game. By

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<v Speaker 10>game time, hammered.

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<v Speaker 7>Darius was drinking choice.

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<v Speaker 9>I drink beer, but I like to drink. I'm a

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<v Speaker 9>whiskey drinker. I got my own whiskey out now backstage, whiskey.

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<v Speaker 10>If any of your drinks back whiskey.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have heard of.

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<v Speaker 9>It's good. Next time, I'll bring you a bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, we're all pulling out whiskey right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making whiskey notes even two pm.

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<v Speaker 3>Right eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>Five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we will show unannounced at your house anytime.

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<v Speaker 10>You'll welcome anytime my house in Charleston.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I thank you very much for coming on our

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<v Speaker 3>show today, record, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>On be having Sugar, Steve Unpaid and Boss Bill. It's

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