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Speaker 1: Quest Loves Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic

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Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all?

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Speaker 1: This is QLs classic from November twenty second, twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: with Darius Rucker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Singer songwriter Darius Rucker talks about Hoody and the Bluefish.

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Speaker 1: I know those guys, right, They go for playing frat

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Speaker 1: parties to playing with the Dave Matthews Band to the

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Speaker 1: Grand Ole Opry and then going as a solo artist.

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Speaker 1: And he also talks about the obstacles he faced a

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Speaker 1: long way and yeah, by obstacles, we do being racism,

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Speaker 1: but we also speak of his love of hip hop

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Speaker 1: and other types of music and sports, and his strange

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Speaker 1: obsession of his spirit animal, the late Great Nate Dog.

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Speaker 1: So you don't want to miss that one, all right,

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Speaker 1: Darius Rucker Quest Loves Supreme.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Steve looks like a homest truck drivers.

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Speaker 4: Supremo, Roll Supremo, Supremo, Roll Call Supremo, something Supremo, Roll

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Speaker 4: call Supremo.

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Speaker 3: So some Supremo.

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Speaker 1: Roll His name is not Hoodie, Yeah, it's Darius.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mister Rucker. Yeah, if you're nasty.

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Speaker 5: Roll call Supreme did rhyme roll.

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Speaker 3: Some Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 5: My name is Sugar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm being wooed yeah by the podcast. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: could only want to be with you.

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Speaker 4: So Supremo roll call, Supremo, Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 5: I'm on paid Bill. Yeah, ready to rock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to South Carolina. Yeah, go game cocks roll.

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Speaker 6: Supremo, Supremo, roll cal Supremo, Supremo roll.

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Speaker 3: I got boss Bill's name.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well I forgive you who.

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Speaker 6: Suprema Sure, roll call Supremo Supremo role.

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Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, and I'm going country.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Up from.

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Speaker 5: Sam Roll.

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Speaker 9: I'm from the country. Yeah, that's where I'll be. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm showing a question everybody. Yeah, I'll come and seem something.

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Speaker 6: Supremo roll call, Supremo, Supremo, role called Suprema something So Supremo,

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Speaker 6: roll called Suprema something something Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 3: I haven't screwed up like that since episode four.

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Speaker 1: Jesus K, thank you Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 3: Practice time, and you know.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't around doing nasty darns.

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Speaker 2: Clearly did you not hear that?

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Speaker 1: Hop your reference, ladies and gentlemen, this horrible show. You

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Speaker 1: listening quest Love Supreme only on Pandora. My name is

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Speaker 1: quest Love. We got team Supreme with us super Steve.

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Speaker 1: Uh unpaid Bill who has looks new. We haven't seen

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Speaker 1: you in a while.

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Speaker 3: I cleaned.

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Speaker 2: Is that like a number's only jacket? It is?

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Speaker 3: You like it? You have a new girlfriend, don't you?

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Speaker 5: Uh, you're I didn't want to.

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Speaker 2: I'm not on bumble. I have a girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, what's as one as he used to have.

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Speaker 3: I was about to say that is the only reason

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Speaker 3: why you look brand right now?

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Speaker 2: Like I have to go to things, and I too

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Speaker 2: that I can't look like my usual You look great.

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Speaker 7: You don't look well enough to go to a thing?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no no. But he's glowing.

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Speaker 2: He's glowing, and I have a suit in the card.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow? Okay?

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Speaker 1: And uh boss bills here and he also looks as

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Speaker 1: good as I do.

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Speaker 3: Fan is somewhere handling. Uh.

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Speaker 2: He's getting in shape.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting getting married in his wedding suxceedo. Uh,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. Uh, I have to say that our

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Speaker 1: guest today is literally loved by millions at least at

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Speaker 1: least Yeah, it's rare. I think he might be the

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Speaker 1: first Diamond artist of a non greatest hits or or

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Speaker 1: a compilation to ever be on the show.

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Speaker 3: UH Grammy Award winning Uh baby fits. I don't think

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Speaker 3: the million people record, but I'm sure I wanted to

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Speaker 3: make sure question of Supreme emails from Search. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 3: I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 1: But I have to say that for for the last

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Speaker 1: twenty five years or twenty plus years, I won't our

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Speaker 1: guest has been entertaining millions and millions, uh, initially as

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Speaker 1: a frontman of Hoodie and the Bluefish and now as

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Speaker 1: an artist in his own right. Ladies and gentlemen, please

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Speaker 1: welcome to Quest Love Supreme Darius Rockett.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Anyway. How are you Today's.

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Speaker 10: I'm good man, how y'all doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good, not bad.

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Speaker 10: I like this. It's really laid bad.

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Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta say that.

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Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of the guests of the show,

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Speaker 1: many of which have had careers in the four and

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Speaker 1: almost five decades, UH, you're probably the first act that

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Speaker 1: I don't know intimately, as in like the back of

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Speaker 1: my hand. But I'm very curious about your journey on

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Speaker 1: your your your your whole life spent. It's like I

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Speaker 1: I know of you, I know of your music, but

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Speaker 1: I never know of you as a person and in

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Speaker 1: your beginnings. So I know that you're you were born

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Speaker 1: in Charleston, South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Charleston.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just uh this little neighborhood. Uh there was six kids,

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Speaker 9: you know. Uh that wasn't really around a lot if

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Speaker 9: at all. And uh just uh I had, you know,

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Speaker 9: lived in this little neighborhood, this great little neighborhood. We

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Speaker 9: had our neighborhood with the small houses and we had

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Speaker 9: the projects behind us, and you know, we fought every

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Speaker 9: But ever since I was ever since I heard Al

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Speaker 10: That's it. That really was for me. There was nothing

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Speaker 1: A year ago I did a show in Charleston and

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how close to New Orleans. It's almost

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Speaker 9: This always it's always been that way. We've always said

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Speaker 10: That, oh it's a great city.

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Speaker 3: Is it a musical city.

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Speaker 10: It's not as musical's normals, but it's a musical city.

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Speaker 9: It's music everywhere, you know, there's always bands playing and

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Speaker 8: Who are some like notable South Carolina folks, So you know,

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Speaker 10: About that rock Chris Rock.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well yeah, Chris Robert musical. There's not you know, Uh,

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Speaker 10: Uh you know who they.

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Speaker 9: Me uh Uh. James Brown's from like north was born

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Speaker 9: in North Augusta or something, but he lived in you know,

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Speaker 3: Close to Georgia was Charleston.

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Speaker 9: Oh, I'm probably two hours from Georgia too, from Augusta.

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Speaker 7: Are you're still there?

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Speaker 9: I thought I lived. I lived in the city for

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Speaker 9: a couple of years. I was making R and B

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Speaker 9: record back at the turn of the century. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Just I know.

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Speaker 10: In it was like seventeen years ago.

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Speaker 3: you said that your first musical memory was Al Green. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What was it about? Uh?

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Speaker 10: His voice that called his voice? Of course?

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Speaker 9: Al Green was her favorite, and so when he I

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Speaker 9: One of the worst days of my life was when

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Speaker 9: my voice changed. It's the true story. My voice changed

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah, my family was a big time in church musical,

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Speaker 9: the gospel group was named the Rolling Still.

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Speaker 7: Got scared when you said he wasn't around much.

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Speaker 9: I was like, oh, oh, actually the way I heard,

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Speaker 9: the Rolling Stones had a half hour Wow and that's

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Speaker 9: I don't like, they never did anything that the Stones

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Speaker 7: Happening you know South Carolina for life.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, they Yeah, they weren't doing anything. The

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Speaker 3: The secular where the Christian Rolling Stone.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, they started the show saying rolling Stone gathers

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Speaker 1: So were they uh kind of of like the Backwoods

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Speaker 1: Gospel Quartet exactly.

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Speaker 9: You know, they came out and did all those songs,

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Speaker 10: She had an amazing voice. She was really something special.

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Speaker 3: Was it? Of course? I guess when you're traveling with.

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Speaker 1: A gospel quartet or whatever, most kids that have the

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Speaker 3: So was it just was this a Baptist or seven

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Speaker 10: So we were Baptists.

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Speaker 9: We were straight Southern Baptists, man, and everything that comes

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Speaker 10: That's what we were.

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Speaker 3: Saturday service, Sunday.

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Speaker 10: Sunday service, Saturday service, you know.

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Speaker 10: It was never questioned you. You never had to wonder

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Speaker 7: And you still stayed to go to college.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we were a band for eight years before we

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Speaker 7: Though, Dude, your first band of roots?

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Speaker 1: I did thirteen years in that group before I got

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Speaker 9: Well, my problem was nobody in high school could play.

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Speaker 10: They played in the band, but nobody sick.

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Speaker 3: Like what was your I.

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Speaker 10: Wanted to be a singer.

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Speaker 9: But when you're from South Carolina, you hear so many

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Speaker 9: So I decided I was going to be a sportscast.

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Speaker 9: I wanted to talk about sports, you know, do the

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Speaker 10: Back in eighty four.

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Speaker 7: This is in high school, in college.

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Speaker 10: Was in high school. I decided that was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that also explains why he had Oberman ESPN era

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Speaker 9: I like sports, and I played sports until I was thirteen,

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Speaker 9: But when all my when all my friends were better

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Speaker 9: So around thirteen, I decided that I should probably concentrate

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 10: It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, So and where did you go to college?

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Speaker 10: To South Carolina?

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Speaker 9: Sophomore year, I meet this this kid. Hears me singing

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah those and uh and I'm singing some song

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Speaker 9: He says, you know, was that you? I was the

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Speaker 3: And you guys named yourselves study in the blue Fish.

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Speaker 9: Oh dude, I was still mad at myself about this ut.

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Speaker 9: First we were the Wolf Brothers. Then we decided to

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Speaker 10: And I used to be a real asshole. I used

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Speaker 9: And this guy had big eyes, and I called him Hoodie,

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Speaker 9: And we were told that by everybody we gotta go

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Speaker 10: And we just didn't want to do it. We wanted

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Speaker 7: How how long had you been?

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Speaker 9: We played three hundred shows that year, but you know

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Speaker 9: we got big Grunge was king. Nobody was trying to

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Speaker 9: fifty five fifty. Shirley Hamphill, We're watching We're Washing Hamphio

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Speaker 3: I think I know that routine.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's where we got it from.

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Speaker 2: But when did you guys start writing songs? Because I

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Speaker 9: We started writing songs eighty nine because it was the.

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Speaker 3: Cover was that you guys play covered Yeah, we.

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Speaker 9: looking out because you know, Dave Matthews got huge. We

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Speaker 9: that's how big the scene was back back then, that

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Speaker 9: But we made we didn't even care about a record deal.

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Speaker 9: We were making good money.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna ask, what would you how would

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Speaker 1: thought that you guys were more of a jam band

451
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: with pop sensibilities. Absolutely, like not all the way fish,

452
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 1: but kind of in that length, Like would you consider

453
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: because I never considered it country pop or straight ahead

454
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: pop or I think there's musicality and.

455
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 9: Absolutely we were jam band with with with with that

456
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 9: pop such ability because none of us could play well

457
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 9: enough to be a jaman. Nobody, nobody, nobody wanted to

458
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 9: hear our guitar player player solo for ten minutes. Nobody

459
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 9: definitely wanted to hear me play a solo because I

460
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 9: still can't play so so, but we had that Jampan

461
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 9: feel about us. So that's what we always that's what

462
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 9: we always thought we were.

463
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: I see, Okay, So at what point does Atlantic come

464
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: in the picture?

465
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 10: Like, how does Yeah? They came in ninety A.

466
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 9: Lanta came out at the end of ninety two and

467
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 9: started talking to us, and everybody was but everybody was

468
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 9: talking to us, I mean, and we met this guy

469
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 9: that we liked, and so we went with Atlantic and

470
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 9: I remember making Cracked Review. And there's some people right

471
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 9: now that if you talk to them, they'll tell you

472
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 9: they signed us, but they didn't. They lie, and uh,

473
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 9: Danny Goldberg was president of Atlantic at the time, and

474
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 9: people went in. People at Atlantic went in and told

475
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 9: Danny Goldberg that you can't put Cracked Review out. Told

476
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 9: him that if one guy told him, if you put

477
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 9: Cracked Review out, we will be the laughing stock of

478
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 9: the music business because it wasn't grunge, and everybody was

479
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 9: buying up the grunt and grunge was everything, you know.

480
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 9: Kirk Cobbaine and Pearl Jam and those guys, they were everything,

481
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 9: and they told him to not put on. Danny just

482
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 9: told him we're putting the record out, and you know

483
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 9: the rest, I guess.

484
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: Just it Okay.

485
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: So obviously the one factor that meet you guys you

486
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: need was the fact that a black lead singer and

487
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: this band, Like, how as far as once the majors

488
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: got to you guys and at least we're recording you

489
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: to sign to the label, like, was there hesitancy as

490
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: far as that like, was that ever? The subthing was

491
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: that the ever the white elephant in the room. Oh absolutely,

492
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: how are we going to sell this in the marketing?

493
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 9: And that was always I mean, I don't know how

494
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 9: many times people say, yo, Lenny Gravitz that I was like, yeah,

495
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 9: but we don't sound like Lady Gravitz.

496
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: Guys weren't hippified.

497
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: That's the thing you were so dude's next door, Yes exactly,

498
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: k guys next door, Like, but that's the thing you weren't.

499
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't you guys weren't silly frat you weren't. It

500
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: was so normal that it worked, It was relatable. But

501
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm certain that someone said, like, well, just let the music,

502
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: you know, let the music speak for itself.

503
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 9: Like you notice, we're not there's little picture of us

504
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 9: on our first.

505
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: Record, the Motown Theory. Yeah, and that was on purpose.

506
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 10: That was on purpose. That was you have me for

507
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 10: Somebody wanted to do that.

508
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: You know.

509
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 10: They didn't want people to see, you know.

510
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 9: Because if they and if they saw me on the record,

511
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 9: they would have thought I was a drummer or the

512
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 9: basse player.

513
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: You know.

514
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 9: And and so when we actually when we started making

515
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 9: our first video, was like people, you know, they were

516
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 9: worried that, you know, the the video channels working to

517
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 9: play like you know.

518
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 10: I was like, well, you know, let's see.

519
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: So there's discussions of just doing an aerosmith and have

520
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: a narrative of the story.

521
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 9: And you guys, not exactly did bother you I always always.

522
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 10: You know, because to us it win a big deal.

523
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: Man.

524
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 9: We had just played frat houses where you know, I

525
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 9: was called nigger and all this stuff. We had just

526
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 9: busted our bus to get through where we were going

527
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 9: through the South playing all those shitty gigs that you know,

528
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 9: I look back on and go, I can't believe we didn't.

529
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 9: You know, I didn't have to fight our way out.

530
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 7: Of that, you know exactly.

531
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 9: And so when we got there, I was like, man,

532
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 9: we still got We're on the big stage. Now we

533
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 9: still got to deal with this crap.

534
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 7: How did your bam it? How did they deal with

535
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 7: because this is something new for them.

536
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 9: I'm sure it was, yeah, but I mean, you know,

537
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 9: they they were thinner skin than I was. I knew

538
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 9: that if I was going to do this, I had

539
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 9: to have thick skin. I knew that the instant we

540
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 9: started playing in the South that if I was going

541
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 9: to do this, I gotta have thick skin. And we're

542
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 9: gonna be fighting everywhere we play.

543
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: And damn I forgot because you're the front man, and

544
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: I know there's always some asshole or a heckler or

545
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: beard or sure, so how you must be have like

546
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: marksmen like that.

547
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: I am pretty.

548
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 8: Of those clubs with the cages around Rose Pay one

549
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 8: of those.

550
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, like Blues Brothers places that had the fence around

551
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 9: this day.

552
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 3: You guys never played Rong Hide just for kicks. We

553
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 3: played Roigh that night.

554
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 9: Didn't even know it picked it.

555
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: Oh man, that dog that is that is brave?

556
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: Like does would that ever give you an anxiety?

557
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: Because I don't know.

558
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean, at the most I would probably fear facing

559
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: an audience that has indifference, but not you know, wondering

560
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: every night where's it going to come from.

561
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 9: I tell you the times when I got the most

562
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 9: scared or like, but you know, we took the gigs,

563
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 9: were go play the gig, But anxiety was playing those

564
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 9: frat houses in the South, like going to the University

565
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 9: of Tennessee and playing the freaking Kate, going to Presbyterian

566
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 9: and playing the KA House. And you know, I don't

567
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 9: know what it is like that, but back when we

568
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 9: were in school, KA was the old South frat. You

569
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 9: know they basically, you know, they should have three k's

570
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 9: instead of ka.

571
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: Was that ever a redemptive purple ring movement where it's

572
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: like where it's like when you get to that climatic

573
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: song and they're looking at each.

574
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 9: Other like, yeah, absolutely there was.

575
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: There was.

576
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 9: But then then we're lowing our shipped down and the

577
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 9: guy front and I hear this man that was a

578
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 9: good band, even though they had a nigger singer.

579
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 10: Oh heard it.

580
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 9: The guy was right there.

581
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 8: When he said, and what's crazy for you is you

582
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 8: had to go through both sides because it's like you

583
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 8: have that and then you're not black enough on the

584
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 8: other side, because I'm sure there were situations that you

585
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 8: you know, you wanted to do or even as far

586
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 8: as publications that you wanted to talk to and it

587
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 8: was like, wait, I'm here.

588
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 9: Absolutely, that's that. That's been the hardest thing for me

589
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 9: is to have to get it for most sides, Like

590
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 9: I've sold thirty five million records. There was one point

591
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 9: where I was in the biggest band in the world.

592
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 9: And you know, I've never been on the cover of

593
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 9: Ebony or Jet. I've had one story and Jet they

594
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 9: did a story. But who was in Bluefish in ninety six, right,

595
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 9: we just got.

596
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: The cover of Ebony.

597
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that it's it's even though he's

598
00:27:54,680 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: we're in different genres, there is it is a psychological

599
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: mind fuck to thrive in a business where categorically or

600
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: statistically the audience that's supporting you might not necessarily embrace

601
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: you in real life. And on top of that, the

602
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: people that you look like when you look in the

603
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: mirror aren't necessarily supporting you as well. So it's a

604
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: very weird thing.

605
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: Toby. It's well, I mean, there's a lot of acts

606
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: like that, but it's it's.

607
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 7: Still you know what's crazy.

608
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 8: Y'all should know that it trickles down to radio too,

609
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 8: because I've been told I'm come from radio, and I've

610
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 8: been told, Okay, black people aren't into that, like you,

611
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 8: we can't talk about that. Oh can we just talk

612
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 8: about No, black people don't. So it trickles down in

613
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 8: all kinds of ways. I don't want y'all to just

614
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 8: think like, you know.

615
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 1: Well, that's also the difference because he has a lot

616
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: of hits and I got one and that.

617
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: Half hits.

618
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: All right, So so the album comes out and it

619
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: becomes an unstoppable monster. Yeah, like and again I know

620
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: that no one planned any of this. It wasn't like

621
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: you were, oh god, no doing Michael Jackson posted on

622
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: the wall like.

623
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 10: No, not at all.

624
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: So at the point where it's like where your sound

625
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: skin numbers reports are coming in, deal like, oh guys,

626
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: another million, another million, another million, another million.

627
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Does it does it get scary?

628
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Because like, this is your first album and are you

629
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: already thinking like damn, now the second album has to

630
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: be just as good?

631
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 9: And I was I was the one that said of

632
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 9: the band, y'all know this is never gonna happen again, right,

633
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 9: I mean.

634
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: It was even as it was happening.

635
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 9: It got to like twelve million, and they, I mean,

636
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 9: they wanted to go. They wanted to chase Michael Jackson.

637
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 9: They wanted to put too more singles out. They wanted

638
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 9: to chase Thriller. They really really did. They wanted to

639
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 9: they wanted to put too more singles up, but we stopped.

640
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: It, respectful.

641
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 9: No, we want to make another record record, you know,

642
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 9: the same song as make another record, and uh, it

643
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 9: was it's getting crazy, but I knew it.

644
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: Dude.

645
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 9: We sold six million on the next record and that's

646
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 9: considered a flop. How how crazy is that we sold

647
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 9: six million records and it's considered a flop.

648
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 11: That's crazy Today, if anybody sells six million.

649
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: You can't.

650
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 10: Can't. It's not possible.

651
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: So okay, So when you get to Fairweather Johnson and

652
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: and and the other records, like, are you well, I mean,

653
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: what's the as far as you guys are concerned, Are

654
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: you guys still a tight knit you?

655
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 8: Oh?

656
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Because usually when bands get to that level

657
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: like you two dog, their entourage situation is the craziest

658
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen in my life. Like even Adam

659
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: Clayton has his own private plane, his own us, his

660
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: own like each band member and YouTube has their own world.

661
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: Like it's something I've never seen before. But are you guys? Like, Okay,

662
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna stay humble, stay on the same bus.

663
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: We were so tight.

664
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 9: I mean it was we felt it was still us

665
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 9: against the world and the party was on. Okay, I

666
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 9: mean we we were at that point when Fairweather came out,

667
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 9: we were raging. I mean it was like, I think

668
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 9: back to that time and when we get together, the

669
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 9: four of us talk, we say the same thing, thank

670
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 9: God for letting all four of us make it out

671
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 9: the end of that. And so that was something that

672
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 9: brought us together. We were just having so much fun.

673
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 9: We didn't care about the record. So the only thing

674
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 9: we loved is that the shows were bigger.

675
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 10: You know that. That's that's what we cared about. The

676
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 10: shows were bigger.

677
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 9: We're getting to play as much as we want, having

678
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 9: a great time. I actually con afford to pay off

679
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 9: my student loan and get me a car.

680
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 3: First first check.

681
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 10: My student loan first check.

682
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, much just like thousand with you.

683
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 7: Your first loan was like twenty.

684
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 9: Exactly.

685
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: You know that the Obama's paid off their student loan

686
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: the first year of being in the White House.

687
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 5: Wow wow, really wow.

688
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 7: It was expensive too. They did had a lot of

689
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 7: schooling they did.

690
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: That's real, that's crazy.

691
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: So to play, what do you prefer like smaller intimate

692
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: settings or is it as intimate when you're playing in

693
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: the stadium.

694
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 9: Or oh definitely not today, I definitely. But if we

695
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 9: could play like a two three thousand sedter, that's perfect.

696
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: That's a good small small I love it.

697
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 9: That's not small. I mean small is a five hundred

698
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 9: the club, But that's that's I like that. But you know,

699
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 9: like last night, I pluay. You know, there was you know,

700
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 9: eleven twelve thousand people in this tennis stadium and you

701
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 9: just can't. You try to give it up, but you

702
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 9: can't see everybody. You can't, you know, you can't really

703
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 9: get it. And that's I like that because you know

704
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 9: that the checks are bigger, and you know you're still

705
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 9: and you you're doing all right, and you got all

706
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 9: these people here. But man, if I could play a

707
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 9: two thousand theater, I love it.

708
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: I gotta ask a question, So right now, where's your Grammy.

709
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: This This is a running joke on.

710
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: I have.

711
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 10: I have a man.

712
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 9: I have this little room where I watch football and write,

713
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 9: and I got my studio there, and there's a little

714
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 9: closet area. If you want to see my grammys right now,

715
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 9: I would have to take you to them. Like you

716
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 9: never walk in my house and see my Grammys, I'd

717
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 9: have to take you to Oh.

718
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: So it's not on the floor, it's not a doorstopper.

719
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 9: Or basically it's basically a bookend. Some books up there.

720
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 9: The two of them are holding some books up. But uh,

721
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 9: I mean, like I say, I'll say, any other I

722
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 9: don't have. I don't want people to walk in and

723
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 9: like there's not one platinum gold record on my wall

724
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 9: anywhere in my house. I don't have them. My sisters

725
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 9: and brothers have them all. I don't have my cousins.

726
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 9: I don't have any of them because I don't want

727
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 9: people walking into my living room and seeing all the

728
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 9: you know, eighteen times blaten Am and all that stuff.

729
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 9: It's like, I know what I did, you know, you

730
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 9: know what I did. I don't have to throw in

731
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 9: anybody's face. So my grammy is just a little they're

732
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 9: in the corner somewhere, just if you want to see them,

733
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 9: them to you, but you're.

734
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 10: Not gonna see it one less.

735
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: They're not in the bathroom.

736
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 10: Now, They're not in the bathroom. Yours in the bathroom?

737
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

738
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, nice?

739
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: So yeah in the bathroom.

740
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: When did you know that it was time to leave

741
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: the band and start your own solo career.

742
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 9: I got lucky if our drummer came in. We had,

743
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 9: you know, you tour every summer, and we were on

744
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 9: tour in the middle of the tour and our drummer

745
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 9: walks in and says, hey, man, you know, I don't

746
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 9: want to be a touring band like this anymore. I

747
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 9: want to just we we're touring too much, so I

748
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 9: don't want to be a touring band. And my first

749
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 9: thought was, Okay, I'm going to go do this country record.

750
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 10: Yes, I was like yeah.

751
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 9: I was like, cool, I'll go do I'm gonna do

752
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 9: my this country thing and see what happens.

753
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: But you didn't, right, huh you? As far as I'm concerned.

754
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: When I first met you two thousand and one, you

755
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: signed it in beach career.

756
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, but that was that we were still together.

757
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 9: That was we took a year off and I did

758
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 9: that record. Then we got back together and went back

759
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 9: on tour until two thousand and eight.

760
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I thought you left the group and then.

761
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 9: No, that we were just taking time off for that

762
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 9: then and then at two thousand and eight was when

763
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 9: two thousand and seven was when.

764
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 10: They called it.

765
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 9: They we just don't want to do this all the

766
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 9: time was okay, And we weren't that band who could

767
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 9: have said, Okay, we're gonna get a new drummer. We

768
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 9: just we're a band. When the four of us play,

769
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 9: we play. If the four of us are gonna play together,

770
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 9: we're not gonna play.

771
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: So the grass is always greener on the other side.

772
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Because I was shocked. Really, I just just as a

773
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: as a working musician, my thought is always about like

774
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: my livelihood and the people have to take care.

775
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 10: Of Yes, I mean too you can't.

776
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

777
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just with with black people.

778
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean I would think that everyone thinks like Okay.

779
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: I also feel like.

780
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so to.

781
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: Walk away from something so sure shot and I'm sure

782
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: I'm certain that by that point you know your guarantees

783
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: or nice yeah for you know, yeah, that time period

784
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: to make that every To make your your your grandparents night,

785
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: to make your grandparents' annual salary in one ninety minute

786
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: concert is great. So to walk away from that is

787
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: such a risk. Oh yeah, And I'm not even talking

788
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: about your standpoint because you're still here.

789
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 3: But for your band members, is.

790
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: It Was it a rastusism or was it like, well,

791
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: let's talk about him.

792
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 9: No, he had thought about it for a while. I

793
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 9: mean you could tell when he was talking to us.

794
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 9: And I think the band actually thought we might not

795
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 9: play for two years, maybe three years, and we'd be

796
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 9: out doing it again. And I'll be honest with me,

797
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 9: I probably thought to say thing because I was going

798
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 9: to make my country record in my basement with my buddies,

799
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 9: and because I didn't think I could get a record deal,

800
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 9: because I say all the time, if I was my brother,

801
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 9: I wouldn't give me a record deal because at that point,

802
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 9: who he had run his course on the radio. We

803
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 9: had done our thing, you know, if we were lucky,

804
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 9: if our records would go gold, you know, and it

805
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 9: was one you know, We're still had a touring band.

806
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 9: We were doing great, but nobody was out buying hoodie records.

807
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 9: And I thought to myself if if I'm the president

808
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 9: of the label or ain't our guy, I'm not going

809
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 9: to give the black lead singer of a pop band

810
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 9: that was big a record deal to do country music.

811
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 10: I mean, I just didn't think i'd get a record deal.

812
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 9: And Doc McGhee was my manager, and he talked to

813
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 9: president of Capitol and to give me a record deal

814
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 9: before before he said who I was. And then when

815
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 9: he said who I was, I got lucky because the

816
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 9: guy said, you know, I didn't really get that hooty thing,

817
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 9: but I always thought he was a country singer.

818
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: Who you were?

819
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 10: They were at dinner.

820
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 9: The story goes here at dinner and he's with Mike

821
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 9: Duncan and he says, I want you to give this

822
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 9: guy a record deal, and Mike was like who. And

823
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 9: they went around for an hour and Mike was like,

824
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 9: I can't give him deal with that, telling me and

825
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 9: Doc pull deal.

826
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 10: I'm Doc McGee, you you're gonna trust me on this.

827
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 10: One said all right, I'll give a deal.

828
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 9: I'll give a deal and said it was me And

829
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 9: they called me that night and I went and in

830
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 9: the next day and he gave me a deal. And

831
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 9: the favorite story that I hear is he said. When

832
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 9: I decided to give a record deal, I called the

833
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 9: thirteen people in Nashville that I thought were the tastemakers,

834
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 9: the guys that are running country music. He's called by

835
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 9: thirteen friends, and I thought would know that know this business,

836
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 9: are controlling this business. And I told them all I

837
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 9: was sudden you and twelve of them told me it

838
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 9: will never work. Wow, don't even do it. You're wasting

839
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 9: your money. The guy who produced my record for the

840
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 9: Rogers was the one guy who said, great idea, call

841
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 9: me when you do it. Yeah, really, yeah, he I mean, dude.

842
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 9: When I started going to radio, I had radio guys

843
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 9: who are now my best buddies. You know, when you

844
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 9: need that extra spin to go to number one, you know,

845
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 9: and call them up. They'll play it two times in

846
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 9: a row. But when I started, they told me straight up.

847
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 9: I told people I'd never played I've heard people say

848
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 9: to me, I thought my audience would.

849
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 10: Never accept the black countries here.

850
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 7: I thought I had.

851
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 10: But it's been twenty five years. I came along, Charlie

852
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 10: Proud had done anything.

853
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: Well, let it not be said that you aren't familiar

854
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: with recording danger. Now the thing is that I I

855
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: thought that that was a natural thing, Like it wasn't

856
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: like I said, really, I felt like, oh, that makes

857
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: sense the same thing if Nald Richie were to make

858
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: a straight up country record or whatever. You know, well,

859
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: yes he did, but I was just saying that it

860
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: it makes sense to me only because, like, especially now

861
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: that I get to talk to a lot of country

862
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: acts that come on the Tonight Show, I'm slowly realizing

863
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: that damn country acts have a lot of things in

864
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: common with Soul seventies acts, Like there's there's a passion

865
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: there that I thought it was a perfect fit.

866
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: And so I mean, obviously, of course.

867
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 11: If you think about it, like Glass Night and the Pips,

868
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 11: the imagination now with Midnight Training Georgia, all countries.

869
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you have.

870
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 9: The porners sisters, they want to cantry Grammy.

871
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 11: Yeah, the first one was a country, so neither one

872
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 11: of us must be say good bye country something.

873
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, so I because I

874
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: know that you were working with dra and Videll and

875
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: and whatnot, what was that whole experience like doing that?

876
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 9: That's that's one of my that's still one of my

877
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 9: favorite records that I've ever been a part of. I

878
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 9: listened to that record probably three weeks ago. That was

879
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 9: so much fun. Man, work with those guys, work with

880
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 9: Jill and and work with you know, with the I

881
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 9: was working with the characters here and working with Jazz

882
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 9: out in the LA. Where did you record the I

883
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 9: recorded some of it here, some of them in Philly.

884
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was. I mean, I love that. I love that.

885
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 10: I still love that record.

886
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 9: I think we've had some great songs on that record.

887
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 9: You make me feel like I've sing the song.

888
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: You love Lizabon know that.

889
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 9: I mean only that, I hear.

890
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 10: So fun.

891
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: I want having.

892
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 10: You got so?

893
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 12: How would you got so?

894
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 10: Even got so? Help me too?

895
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 3: I love it.

896
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 7: What was that like working in the studio with her?

897
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 10: Oh? Great, she came in.

898
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 9: We started writing that song, and you know, I was

899
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 9: such a big fan, and and we start writing a

900
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 9: song and we get to the chorus and when we

901
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 9: started cutting, it was so sexy. You know, her voice

902
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 9: is so sexy, and I.

903
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 7: Was with her everything she gives us sex.

904
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 10: It was awesome.

905
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: So, uh speak of your at least for the transformation into.

906
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: Going to the country world. How hard was that adjustment

907
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: for you?

908
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 10: For me, it was easy.

909
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 9: I mean because I'm just I'm still still that kid

910
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 9: from South Carolina that thinks he got lucky.

911
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 10: So like they were surprised.

912
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 9: Like when we got the first single and I went

913
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 9: to my label, I said, I want to be the

914
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 9: new guy. I said, I don't want to be. I

915
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 9: want to start from the bottom and work.

916
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 10: My way up. They're like, well, we had these ideas.

917
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 9: I was like, well, I want to do a radio tour,

918
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 9: and they were shocked because they said they had talked

919
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 9: about it, but they didn't think I would do it.

920
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 9: And so I went to one hundred and ten radio

921
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 9: stations three or four day for five six weeks. I

922
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 9: mean every day, busting up, you know, talking to people,

923
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 9: shaking hands, kissing babies, playing for three people in the

924
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 9: conference room and doing all that.

925
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: How hard is it to.

926
00:42:54,680 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: Make them this attached themselves from what your past was.

927
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 10: That was the hardest part. That was the hardest part of.

928
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: How do you win that armless wrestling match.

929
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 10: To I just went in and was myself.

930
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 9: I just went in and talked, and that was me

931
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 9: and and I visited and you know, you got for

932
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 9: have lunch and drink some beers. And have a good

933
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 9: time and people liked me and I had actually had

934
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 9: a good song.

935
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 8: Was there anybody that was mentoring you like that, anybody

936
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 8: that went through the process like you did that change genres?

937
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 9: And No, that was something that somebody said to me

938
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 9: that I thought of. It was like so many people

939
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 9: that have gone from popped and tried to trying to

940
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 9: do country and I'm the only person that's that's made it.

941
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 9: And I was like, wow, I never even thought about that.

942
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 9: But I mean, I've had a career. I got eight

943
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 9: number ones, I get a Grammy, I got five number

944
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 9: one records.

945
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: It was it's it was crazy, so okay for a

946
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: person that's never played there but has heard about the

947
00:43:53,120 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: folklore of the Grand ol Opry, what is what is

948
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: the honor or the folkal of playing the Grand Old Opry?

949
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 9: And it's pretty sacred in country music.

950
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: It's it's like like, is it a jury that decides

951
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: we'll let you play this?

952
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 8: Or who?

953
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 10: He tried to play there for years. They wouldn't let us.

954
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 10: They would never let us on the stage.

955
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 9: They just said, you're not a country band, you know.

956
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 9: And so the first time I played it was pretty awesome.

957
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 9: It was just one of those out of buddy experiences,

958
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 9: because you know, and the day I got asked to

959
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 9: be a member was probably the first day I thought

960
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 9: I was a part of the country music.

961
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: So is it like the Friars Club or it's like, explain,

962
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: do you know, can you explain for audience and me?

963
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: What is so okay?

964
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: Assuming that you're a young start in Nashville, Like, is

965
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: your dream like one day.

966
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 9: Absolutely, your dream is one day be a member of

967
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 9: the Grand Opera? And yeah, the play because everybody once

968
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 9: you're if you're in the business, you could play it.

969
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 9: If you're a country singer, you could get on the opry.

970
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 9: But becoming a member, you know, it's just an honor

971
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 9: that that that everybody in Nashville is trying to get.

972
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: And what's like, what's a member like? Is it like

973
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: the Rock and Hall Hall of Fame or is it

974
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: it's not.

975
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: It's not.

976
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 10: It's more like the Friars Club is probably a better

977
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 10: way to describe it. It's it's a it's a big

978
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 10: fraternity of.

979
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 9: Musicians and we all give our time to the Opry

980
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 9: and you know the.

981
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 10: Charity stuff that the Opry does and all that.

982
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 9: Stuff, and it's It's like everybody wants to be a member.

983
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: So who initiates the idea? Like does your manager call

984
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: them and say, hey, oh, they have.

985
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: To come to you.

986
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 9: You have to come to you and say do you

987
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 9: want to be a member of the Grand Opery?

988
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 7: Are you the only pepper and a salt?

989
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 9: Were you?

990
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: Charlie as growing up as a kid with with like

991
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: limited uh television shows on but a lot of variety shows.

992
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: I definitely remember, like Charlie Pride always seen him on

993
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: these variety shows in the seventies. But I'm not that

994
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: familiar with his discography, So I did he get a

995
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: lot of play?

996
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 9: He got a lot of where we lived, Like I

997
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 9: was an AM radio kid, where I just sit and

998
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 9: flip through the radio and whatever song I liked, I'd

999
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 9: stop on it.

1000
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 10: And Charlie Pride, I.

1001
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 9: Mean, and even in our house because he was big

1002
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 9: in our house, because it was one of the only

1003
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 9: places you could see music. Yes, exactly exactly, And so

1004
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 9: you know I watched you.

1005
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I thought you said roll call.

1006
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 7: I quoted it in my role.

1007
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: Call there is that roll call was derivative of but it.

1008
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 7: Is also a dance in DC. We made up but.

1009
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 9: Continue and so he was really big and he was

1010
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 9: for me as a kid, I was always that kid

1011
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 9: who wanted to do something different, who always and I

1012
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 9: always thought it was cool that Charlie Pride was, you know,

1013
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 9: doing something that we weren't supposed to do. You know,

1014
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 9: we weren't supposed to sing coutry music. And this guy

1015
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 9: was not just saying country music. He was Entertainer of

1016
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 9: the Year two years. You know, he hosted the CMAS

1017
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 9: a couple of years, and I thought, this guy, you know,

1018
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 9: he was somebody I definitely looked up to as a kid.

1019
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: Uh have you.

1020
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: I know, it's well with a lot of singers in

1021
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: the business, like some of them are kind of slow

1022
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: to meet someone more successful. I'm not saying like you're

1023
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: idol or whatever you don't meet your heroes or whatever,

1024
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: but do you guys have a relationship.

1025
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 10: We're friends. We're definitely friends.

1026
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 9: We talk, we hang out when we when we can,

1027
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 9: and the whole ebony and jet thing.

1028
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 10: I didn't even think about that until Charlie said that

1029
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 10: to me.

1030
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 9: Never And when he said that to me is when

1031
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 9: I thought, I was like, Wow, I've never done it.

1032
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 10: I was like because that's those kind of things. I

1033
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 10: just let go because I'm like, it's just not gonna

1034
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 10: happen what I do.

1035
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 9: And then I thought, wow, Charlie Pride has never been

1036
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 9: on the cover of Ebony or I mean, I was

1037
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 9: like wow, And I was like, you know, I guess

1038
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 9: I kind of understand me.

1039
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 10: But that guy is I would, Oh you would? You

1040
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 10: should have one of that. He's he'll tell you too.

1041
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 7: Baseball player.

1042
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: He was a baseball player.

1043
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 10: I love what he Charlie.

1044
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 9: Charlie's one of the guys you love to hang out

1045
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 9: with because he loves to tell stories and I'll sit

1046
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 9: there for hours and just let him talk and just laugh.

1047
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 10: And he's you should have one. He's great.

1048
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: Dear, guys, have been doing please make this happen.

1049
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 7: Were you guys friends before you decided to do country or.

1050
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 10: We met when I started doing so when.

1051
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 8: He found out, Like, what is the first initial conversation

1052
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 8: that you guys?

1053
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 9: Our first conversation was he was hosting the Opry and

1054
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 9: I was on the opery that night, and him and

1055
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 9: I got there early so we could sit in the

1056
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 9: room just me and him.

1057
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 10: For an hour.

1058
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: Are laughing about getting there early?

1059
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, I don't know that about that.

1060
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Your country people get here.

1061
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: What you got me? Man, you got me. So you

1062
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: guys got there earlier.

1063
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 9: And we just sat and talked for like an hour,

1064
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 9: an hour and a half. We just sat in the room,

1065
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 9: just me and him and talked and I picked his

1066
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 9: brain about you know, but his life and my life

1067
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 9: and what I can expect and and I'll be honest

1068
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 9: with you.

1069
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 10: One thing I.

1070
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 9: Said to myself years ago, we were talking earlier about

1071
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 9: the frat house and all that stuff.

1072
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 10: I said to myself.

1073
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 9: Years ago, no matter what I go through, I can

1074
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 9: handle it because I can't imagine what Charlie Pride went through.

1075
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 9: I can't imagine what he went through to succeed the

1076
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 9: way he did. And I always said, if he could

1077
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 9: take that, I could take whatever they got to throw

1078
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 9: my way.

1079
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 8: But I'm almost scared for you because it's kind of

1080
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 8: like a semi resurgence of Charlie.

1081
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 10: Oh, you're right.

1082
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 9: And the funny thing is the only time I've ever

1083
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 9: really experienced something that was just so blatantly racist at

1084
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 9: one of my shows is we're playing a show in

1085
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 9: upstate New York. Upstate New York. I'm playing a show,

1086
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 9: and all of a sudden we see these six giant,

1087
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 9: giant rebel flax and these guys are walking around the

1088
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 9: crowd carrying real flax. So my boys are like, hell no,

1089
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 9: so we all go together and they went out no Darius,

1090
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 9: and these guys went out and grabbed these you know,

1091
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 9: grab these cats. And these cats were straight up we

1092
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 9: are the local chapter in the KK.

1093
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 7: Were to people don't know about the are you?

1094
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 9: We were like, y'all get out of here, y'all got

1095
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 9: to go.

1096
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 10: We kicked them out.

1097
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 3: It was three years some of the world is we're

1098
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: here to visiting?

1099
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 11: Thing about it all?

1100
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: Like why is that road playing?

1101
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 9: Hair Rosa, stay at ouse walls tied in here and

1102
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 9: then sit out here and tam world.

1103
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 13: Over us where no matter all, we got him here again.

1104
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: Gun, You don't guy, what you see in a.

1105
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 5: Glance on the street?

1106
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 6: What do you want to see?

1107
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 11: Okay, Well, since we're talking about this is really appropriate,

1108
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 11: can you talk about the song Drowning, which seems to

1109
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 11: be quite as relevant now as it was twenty years

1110
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 11: ago when it was first released.

1111
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 9: You know, we uh, the rebel flag used to be

1112
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 9: on top of our state house like it would be

1113
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 9: the US flags, the South Kin flag, and the red

1114
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 9: flag flying over the state House. So there was a

1115
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 9: big controversy that we just wanted it take him down.

1116
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 9: We wanted it take him down. And so one night

1117
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 9: I was out at the bars and there was this cat.

1118
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 9: He was a homeless cat and he uh, his name

1119
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 9: was Spider. We all call him Spider, and he's he's

1120
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 9: sitting on the thing. And so I went back in

1121
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 9: the bar and I grab two beers and I go

1122
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 9: down and I sit next to Spider and we start

1123
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 9: talking and we figuring about beer before I go to

1124
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 9: the next bar, and we start talking about the rebel flag.

1125
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 9: And he, you know, he knew the band, and he

1126
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 9: said to me one thing. He said, you know all

1127
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 9: the you know, all the hate, that hate that's going on.

1128
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 9: You said, you know, it's you the hate. And I

1129
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 9: went wow.

1130
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 10: He's like, well, I was like, what do you mean.

1131
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 10: He was like, you know they're playing with these white boys,

1132
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 10: You're the one they really hate.

1133
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: And I went wow.

1134
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 9: And I went home that night and I wrote Drowning

1135
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 9: and Drowning it's a protest song. I mean, there's no

1136
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 9: other ways you could say. It's a protest song. And uh,

1137
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 9: I just I wanted to. I was so frustrated and

1138
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 9: that night and I was so like taken aback by

1139
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 9: what spider it said that I sat down and you know,

1140
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 9: and I wrote it, and you know, when it came down,

1141
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 9: that was one of the songs they were playing at

1142
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 9: the State House when they were taking it down, and

1143
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 9: I thought that was pretty cool.

1144
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 8: Wow, that's do you stand it with the So now

1145
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 8: you know, now that the flag issue is down, now

1146
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 8: there's the statue issue. I'm just curious because I know

1147
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 8: South Carolina. You know, they've been pulling statues down around there.

1148
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 9: The thing that the thing that kills me about, Uh,

1149
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 9: all the people will go you know where you're forget

1150
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 9: the history. These are the people who came to be

1151
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 9: these patriotic Americans, and the South tried to destroy the Union,

1152
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 9: they tried to destroy what America was when America and

1153
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 9: also they could keep black people with slaves and they

1154
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 9: were terrorists and they were you know, and they want

1155
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 9: to keep that up. But all those were put up

1156
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 9: in the Jim Crow era and they were put up

1157
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 9: to to show black people we are still you know,

1158
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 9: we're still the man. We hate it, We're going to

1159
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 9: put all these things up, and people don't realize that,

1160
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 9: you know, that wasn't put up in eighteen eighty.

1161
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 7: We think that it was.

1162
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 9: They think that it was, but it was, and it

1163
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 9: was put up to doing Jim Crow to keep black

1164
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 9: people in their place, so to say. And so I'm

1165
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 9: good with taking them down.

1166
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: So based on what's going on now, I mean, how

1167
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: awkward is it doing press in that circuit, especially with

1168
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: what's going on now. I know that you're a big

1169
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: sports fanatic, and it's almost like every day you wake up,

1170
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: everyone America wakes up sort of panic stricken because they're

1171
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going to be reported next on the news.

1172
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: And second me.

1173
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: Turning on and now just dealing with the White House

1174
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: and the National Anthem and football and everything. I mean,

1175
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: how hard is it to just sell your product in

1176
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: that marketplace and and kind of step between, uh.

1177
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 3: You know, landmindes.

1178
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: Of of of avoiding being a spokesperson or content.

1179
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 10: And and the thing.

1180
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 9: For me, it's hard both ways because like I sing

1181
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 9: the Nashay, I was in London singing the national anthem

1182
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 9: just a little while ago. But I just the way

1183
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 9: I was raised, I can't kneel during the anthem. I

1184
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 9: understand why they do trust me. I've been stopped. I've

1185
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 9: been stopped for driving a nice car a million times.

1186
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 9: I got brothers and cousins and uncles and friends, and

1187
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 9: I'm totally with what the what what those guys are protested,

1188
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 9: you know, and I get a there. But then you know,

1189
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 9: like you said, you're all trying to sell a product

1190
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 9: and people want to talk about what's going on, and you,

1191
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 9: you know, you.

1192
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 10: Say the wrong thing. Look at the Dixie Chicks. You

1193
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 10: say the.

1194
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 9: Wrong thing one time, and your career could be over.

1195
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, career suicide country country, especially especially

1196
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 9: in country. You got, you got? The Dixie Chicks said

1197
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 9: one offhand thing. The day before they said that they

1198
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 9: were the most played band on country radio by far,

1199
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 9: the day they said that they haven't played since. I've

1200
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 9: never heard a Dixie Chicks song on the country read

1201
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 9: I listen to coutry radio all the time. I've never

1202
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 9: heard a Dixie Chick song. And that that you know,

1203
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 9: you look at that, and so you stay true to

1204
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 9: I stay true to who I am. You know I do.

1205
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 9: If you ask me a question, I'll answer. I answered

1206
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 9: the way that I want to answer it. But it's

1207
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 9: like it's such a fine line to walk out there,

1208
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 9: you know, because you want you always want to do

1209
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 9: the right thing, but then you have to think about

1210
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 9: you know, about this, about my career, about all this,

1211
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 9: and so it's tough getting it sold, but you've got

1212
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 9: to go out there and work.

1213
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like you you asked to be a

1214
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: spokesperson for race, but you seem to have. It seems

1215
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: to be this responsibility that's been put upon you just

1216
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: because of these lines that you seem to be walking.

1217
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: What is that like?

1218
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 2: I mean, like I don't think you know, Like I

1219
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: feel like some people they want to talk about race

1220
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 2: and it's very important to them, and this just feels

1221
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: like where you live and the genres that you jump

1222
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: between your automatically that's sort of yeah, whether whether you

1223
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: want it or not, which is.

1224
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 3: And it's just ridiculous, but like it's kind of part

1225
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: of being black.

1226
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 2: Well okay, white person. I'm just that I don't know

1227
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: what that's like.

1228
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm in this situation, I have a fear of like,

1229
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: oh God, please don't let an awkward statement happen.

1230
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 3: Please, I just want to I just want to go

1231
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 3: to Starbucks and get my coffee. I live that every

1232
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: day and whatever.

1233
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 9: So yeah, like I did the CBS Saturday Morning thing

1234
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 9: and it goes so crazy because I did the CBS

1235
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 9: Saturday Morning thing and you know, I was doing exactly

1236
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 9: what you're saying. Don't let me say something awkward something,

1237
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 9: you know, And because I started talking about the.

1238
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: EMU, not even you, I'm just from with other people.

1239
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh yeah, coming like some question or something that

1240
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,359
Speaker 9: that gets me to say something. And then I go, well, right,

1241
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 9: come on man, you know, like you know, it's just

1242
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 9: it's a fun line.

1243
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 8: Plus you're like a double agent in a way, so

1244
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 8: I feel like you have information, you know what I mean,

1245
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 8: you don't. I'm sorry if we're asking to me question like,

1246
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 8: oh I know there's I'm like, what do you do

1247
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 8: when they talk about the NRAs.

1248
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: It's so much.

1249
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 7: They're all your fans.

1250
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 8: Man, it's fascinating. You're fascinating. You should be on the

1251
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 8: cover of Ebony.

1252
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, make it happen you please.

1253
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: Okay, how hard is it to navigate a career and

1254
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: a personal life?

1255
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: Uh?

1256
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Like away from your career? Like, are you a twenty

1257
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: four hour I have to constantly tour.

1258
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: I have to always make music.

1259
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: Is it just like, Okay, I want time off to

1260
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, have a family life for that sort of thing, Like,

1261
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: how hard is it to.

1262
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 9: I think that's probably the main reason I live in Charleston.

1263
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 9: It's because the place where I live, everybody knows me,

1264
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 9: like I've been living there. I've been living in the

1265
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 9: same neighborhood for twenty years now. Everybody knows me. They've

1266
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 9: they've you know, I grew up with a lot of

1267
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 9: people like I played the show the other night and

1268
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 9: I knew half the people in the crowd. And so uh,

1269
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 9: because I don't have to work all the time. I

1270
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 9: love being off. I love being with my kids. I

1271
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 9: love being home with the family. I love that. And

1272
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 9: so I lived there so I could just have a

1273
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 9: normal life because really, outside of my job, my life's

1274
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 9: pretty pretty normal, you'd be. I mean, like, people are

1275
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 9: surprised when they hang out with me because I go

1276
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 9: to I go to Walmart and Target every day.

1277
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 8: I go to the grocery store every day.

1278
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: I do.

1279
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, you wouldn't see me. I love it.

1280
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 8: What's it like being around because all your brothers and

1281
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 8: sisters are still in the area too, righte, So not

1282
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 8: to be all up in your business.

1283
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: But since you did.

1284
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 8: But since you did have such a successful band, you

1285
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 8: are such a successful artist, do you to I've learned

1286
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 8: this request let retire people like are there certain people

1287
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 8: that you like?

1288
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 7: You know, like certain your older brothers and sisters. You're like,

1289
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 7: don't worry about.

1290
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: It, you have a hanger on.

1291
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 9: There was, yes, there was a minute question.

1292
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 7: Made it pretty.

1293
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 9: There was one thing I said to my sisters and

1294
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 9: brothers when cracked reviews started taking off. You know, I said,

1295
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 9: I love you guys. I said, I love you guys.

1296
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 9: And you guys will never be kicked out of your house. Okay,

1297
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 9: you always have a car. But we are not rich.

1298
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 7: I am rich.

1299
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 10: I will take care of you.

1300
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: I will make sure.

1301
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 9: I will make sure you never ever if you're if

1302
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 9: you're four months late on your on your mortgage, call me.

1303
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 7: You're not getting a new house.

1304
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 9: But you ain't getting a brand new house just because

1305
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 9: you want to have and I'm not writing a check

1306
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 9: for it.

1307
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: And and where were you?

1308
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 7: You don't have as many brothers and.

1309
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 10: These they know they can call me anything.

1310
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: They know.

1311
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 9: If they called me and say, you know, Darius. I'm

1312
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 9: gonna buyd I'm gonna be there in a minute with

1313
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 9: cash or check or whatever you need. But don't expect

1314
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 9: me to change your life this. I can't change it

1315
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 9: because I want to. I want to stay this way.

1316
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 9: I don't want to be broken. I have not a

1317
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 9: nate fear of being broke some day. I grew up poor,

1318
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 9: you know what. I have to just great fear being

1319
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 9: broke some day, and I haven't it.

1320
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: I just want to take about seventeen seconds to appreciate

1321
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: this moment. First, the Dyla siren, Okay, because it's just

1322
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: hit me that there's a black man in this business

1323
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: that has went diamond, Yes, that shows up on time early, early, early,

1324
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: and doesn't have uh street dreams and aspirations. Because naturally,

1325
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking even whatever, I mean, even whatever, my my

1326
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: faux humble approach, you know, even I'm thinking like, okay, Diamond, Yeah, definitely,

1327
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a yacht and twelve houses and blah

1328
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: blah blah.

1329
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: But twelve oh for your record collect You just have

1330
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 2: storage spaces for your record collection.

1331
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they got to have a home too, No,

1332
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that you're you're totally going against

1333
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: the narrative of someone that.

1334
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: Should. I mean, just every person I know that's in

1335
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 3: your position.

1336
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: Has family and friends that they have to carry on

1337
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: their back.

1338
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 3: They have to show up late. You know.

1339
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: There, I know someone who's ex wives live in a commune,

1340
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: a gated commune. I showed you, Oh, I'd like to

1341
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: see we have, But you said that, you know, like

1342
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: if the mentality, especially with black folks, like if one

1343
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: of you is rich, we all rich?

1344
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: Where not?

1345
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 3: How do you know how to say the word no?

1346
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 12: Oh, well, you were smart enough to do it early,

1347
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 12: which means that you might have had foresight that this

1348
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 12: might be a big thing.

1349
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean when it started taking off, I realized

1350
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 9: it was going to be a big thing.

1351
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: And and how how hard could you How long could

1352
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: you sort of squelch and hide?

1353
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: I had to do that. I still have my first car,

1354
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 3: I'm still driving my same you know.

1355
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 7: It's I have.

1356
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 10: I have one house.

1357
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 3: I keep it just for it's not very big.

1358
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,439
Speaker 9: I got one house, not very big because I didn't

1359
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 9: want a big house, because I didn't want my kids

1360
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 9: to be able to get lost in it. You know,

1361
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 9: you got twenty five hour square foot house.

1362
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 2: You could.

1363
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 9: You cannot find your kids if you want to. I

1364
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 9: got a nice house. I drive a free car, you know,

1365
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 9: free car?

1366
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, damn. Marino told me a long time ago.

1367
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 9: Let your let your community take care of you. Yeah, Charlie,

1368
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 9: he told me that he's right, let your community take you.

1369
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 7: Can't do that.

1370
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 9: Marino hadn't paid for a car since he was a rookie.

1371
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 9: His kids get free cars dealership.

1372
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, that can happen. Ye have a.

1373
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 7: Suburban man radio DJ get that.

1374
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 9: I get a new one every six months.

1375
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: Do you know any d J gigs I had to

1376
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: do to get my birthday gift downstairs?

1377
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 7: Well, your birthday gift downstairs?

1378
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 5: A no sigh, Yeah.

1379
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: There ain't no suburban.

1380
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure maybe some cousins are listening right now, Yes

1381
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: they are. Wait, how does that happen? Okay, now I

1382
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: need you to mention. Marino told me, oh he did.

1383
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 3: Wow, I did not know I could ask for the stuff.

1384
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 9: Dude. You just get to get with the right guy.

1385
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 8: And athletes know because they're always getting those those deals, because.

1386
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: As I also come from management that uh, well them

1387
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: free Well no, no, no, it's it's just they they they

1388
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: successfully for the longest, talked us out of that lifestyle.

1389
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like again, I got my

1390
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: license when I was thirty four.

1391
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 3: I got my first car when I was thirty four.

1392
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 7: It was traumatic, wow around.

1393
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 3: I mean, we were a touring band.

1394
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: Like the whole logic was even how I met Jimmy,

1395
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: Like when I finally begged and begged and begged and

1396
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: baked and big, let me.

1397
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: Get a house in La please. First day out there,

1398
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: I mean Jimmy.

1399
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: And then it's like, crap, gotta move back, you know,

1400
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: East Coast. So whenever I try to really floss, you know,

1401
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: it's it's always backfire. So I was even talked out.

1402
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: Of would you like me to floss on your behalf?

1403
01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 10: Just give me the access to this what's.

1404
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 8: Happening and don't floss. He don't flows Although I'm sure

1405
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 8: those boots aren't cheap.

1406
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: I know. I was like, I was looking at the.

1407
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 7: Where did that snake come from? Ye?

1408
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a picture that boost on Instagram later.

1409
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 10: Yeah. I like my boots.

1410
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 9: I've had they made a rattlesnake?

1411
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: Yes they are? Ye?

1412
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 7: Did you kill it?

1413
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

1414
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 7: Daris? Can you tell me? Is it rude? To ask

1415
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 7: somebody they have like they have their license. Is that rude?

1416
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 9: No, that's not rude.

1417
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 5: I don't think I can't ask.

1418
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 7: Somebody not a driver's license, gun license that.

1419
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 9: I can learn from you everybody's got a license.

1420
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 7: Well, no, I asked, because he said he killed him.

1421
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 9: Even I know I don't think you did he I

1422
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 9: would have ran from the snake, but it let.

1423
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 8: Me in my mind and think, Damn, I wanted to

1424
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 8: Dari's hunts, like you know, you're in that world, blah

1425
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 8: blah blah.

1426
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 10: I got a gun license.

1427
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 3: The other white people, of course you want to.

1428
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the white folks.

1429
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 8: Question country not white, because you know it's more to

1430
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 8: white people.

1431
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: I saw you, and why are you all the white questions?

1432
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 7: You don't know about Southern country white neither business.

1433
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 5: They're married a Southern white country person, thank you very much.

1434
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 10: She loves me too.

1435
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my goodness.

1436
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 9: That you see that key and peels thing that they

1437
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 9: did on me. They they schedule me and say we're down,

1438
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,919
Speaker 9: and we're down in Nashville and we're doing the show.

1439
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 10: And I said, hey, I'm doing nice to you.

1440
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: Hey, I love you.

1441
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 10: We love Darius.

1442
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 7: That's good.

1443
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 9: I love it when you're on the standing labor means

1444
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 9: you made it. I love that stuff. I don't care

1445
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 9: what they say.

1446
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: I love it all right? So what what are you not?

1447
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: What are you about the cars? Aren't you?

1448
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 3: I mean for you? Is it?

1449
01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 10: No?

1450
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm still in my head even though I have a

1451
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: question life after when was the last time? I'm still thinking,

1452
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: like how do I get a free car? So as

1453
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: far as your your career is concerned, like what would

1454
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: you hope is your legacy? And as far as like

1455
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: what you're at the end of the day, like is

1456
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: there anything that you've not achieved besides eminine jet you're

1457
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: gonna do electronic connections?

1458
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: No?

1459
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 9: No, The only thing, honestly, the only thing I haven't

1460
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 9: done that I want to do is I'm ever since

1461
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 9: I can remember, ever since really Notorious Big was was

1462
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 9: killing it. I want to sing the hook on a

1463
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 9: big rap record so much. I want I want to

1464
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 9: be Nate Dog so bad. Oh, I'm dying to I

1465
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 9: mean dying.

1466
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: You can help dying too.

1467
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 11: You know something, I know the Carolina connections, duet.

1468
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 3: I want you have to get married now.

1469
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 7: It's like.

1470
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: You know something.

1471
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm that girl.

1472
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk to you way too high. I'm

1473
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 3: going to talk to you after the show.

1474
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: Because I have a project you might be interested in.

1475
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: It's not an album, but it's concerning that very person,

1476
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: and you are the perfect person to do.

1477
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: This the question love, I'm serious. Script, Everyone's like, what

1478
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 3: are you talking about?

1479
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 2: Man?

1480
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 9: I want to say this. You could ask me to

1481
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 9: sing pooh, pooh pooh. And the respect that I've have

1482
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 9: that I have for you, and I love you and

1483
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 9: I love the roots, I would do whatever you wanted

1484
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 9: me to do.

1485
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 3: I appreciate it absolutely. Okay, I guess I will reveal

1486
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: it because I can't.

1487
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 1: Keep it a secret because of uh, well, twenty eighteen

1488
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: coming up will be uh somewhat of a notable anniversary

1489
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: year for a lot of seminal classics and music of

1490
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three. I've been we've been going back and

1491
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: forth with the Dre camp trying to figure out a

1492
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: way how to celebrate his twenty five year milestone with

1493
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: the Chronic and Doggy Style both are in their twenty fives,

1494
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: so we're still in the talking stage right now. But

1495
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: one of the one of these snags and the thing

1496
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: was like, yo, who's going to be Nate Dog and

1497
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: I've been racking.

1498
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 5: I'm still in I will cancel my tour.

1499
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 11: I don't think your manager will be happy about that.

1500
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: And you can show up five minutes.

1501
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll away for you all, and then.

1502
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 7: We can talk about getting him in the museum. Hope

1503
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 7: he's there. I just I'm assuming, Yeah, the Smithsonian.

1504
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 10: I'm not in this spisode.

1505
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 7: Are you sure?

1506
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 10: I don't think I am.

1507
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 7: You don't think we're gonna check on that?

1508
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's probably one of the most amazing experiences

1509
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: of any well for black people, especially to see that

1510
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: museum in d C.

1511
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,839
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, it's we need more white folks to go see.

1512
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: Because you know, you kidding. Have you seen the lines?

1513
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:36,759
Speaker 10: I know I've seen the lines.

1514
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: It's no, it is it's almost like I want more

1515
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: black trust me.

1516
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 7: We sold it out the first year and now it's

1517
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 7: on them.

1518
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 3: That's right.

1519
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's it's you know, but it's I shall

1520
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: make it. Shout out to Timothy and yes, her name

1521
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: is Timothy.

1522
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 7: No ebony because you're gonna be in the Smithsonian.

1523
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1524
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 5: Ye, why.

1525
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 3: Talk about.

1526
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: Besides besides singing on a rap hook and see we

1527
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 1: can make that happen. What are some of your other

1528
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 1: bucket listing like, like, do you still get it itching

1529
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: to do sports commentary?

1530
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 9: And you know, I always tell the local sports guy

1531
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 9: and Charleston that when I retire, he just's he's just

1532
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 9: holding my seat for me, and he hates when I

1533
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 9: say that. But I might do that when I But

1534
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 9: like musically, I mean, I'm still so far above where

1535
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 9: I thought that would ever be. There's really not much

1536
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 9: else that I want to do. Really, yeah, I mean,

1537
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 9: I'm just I'm having a blast where I am. First,

1538
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 9: I'd like to do this for four or five more

1539
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 9: years if it's you know, but I want to be relevant.

1540
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 10: If it's over, you know, I'll.

1541
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 9: Still tour and everything, but I'm not gonna you know,

1542
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 9: force it down anybody's throat or anything like that.

1543
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 3: Is there such thing as retirement.

1544
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 10: I don't think it's.

1545
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 9: I think retirement means you just play, you know, fifty

1546
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 9: shows a year.

1547
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying that if you can stop and

1548
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: just let the checks come in or whatever.

1549
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1550
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what the residual game is like as

1551
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: far as like songs being licensed.

1552
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: You guys, I hate to admit that.

1553
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: Have I mentioned the Friends thing already? Oh god, okay, yeah,

1554
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: I fell down. You guys are in one episode one

1555
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: of yourselves in yes, okay, early earlier this summer, when

1556
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: I took the one vacation I ever take a year.

1557
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: Alan Yang of Masters of None, Master of None fame

1558
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: with Diseasin Sorry, directed a jay Z video in which

1559
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: they perfectly mirrored a Friends episode, but Nerd asked me

1560
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: had to watch both episodes to see if they had

1561
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: it cut for cut, and then somehow I may or

1562
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: may not have watched all two hundred and thirty. I

1563
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: fell down a vicious rabbit, Friends rabbit. I don't know

1564
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: why I did it.

1565
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 3: I had nothing to do.

1566
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 1: I was in Chef Gordon's backyard, and you know, literally

1567
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 1: every day I watched season for season for seasons.

1568
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 3: So I know that there is a hoodie song in there.

1569
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: But as far as like licensing songs for movies and

1570
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: those things and commercials and that stuff, like, it's.

1571
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 10: It's still pretty good.

1572
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one able to retire and not have to Yeah,

1573
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: can you say no to that?

1574
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 9: Not?

1575
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 3: Family members?

1576
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 9: Like, yeah, I could, I could retire right, I could

1577
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,440
Speaker 9: retire right now and live a pretty good life.

1578
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 7: I looking at you. I'm not gonna rob you, Darius.

1579
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 7: I just looking.

1580
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: She's trying to get my face. Well, man, I thank

1581
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: you very much for coming on that show. We appreciate it.

1582
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 7: Congratulations on his brand new album as well too.

1583
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 9: Yeah the last time, thanks a lot.

1584
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,799
Speaker 2: Wait, you watched two hundred and fifty episodes.

1585
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 3: It's two hundred and thirty six ship, I've only seen one.

1586
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: That's like, that's true, I've only seen one.

1587
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: I'm a complete this man.

1588
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 13: You know this is not gonna go over Well, there's

1589
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 13: only one reason why somebody would watch all those episodes

1590
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 13: of Friends.

1591
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: What's that they have no real Friends.

1592
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 4: Show?

1593
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, way go, way to go.

1594
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 1: So what what what are your plans? Well with the

1595
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: new album, are you going to tour?

1596
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 10: What are you going to tour next year?

1597
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 9: We're going to do a few shows here at the

1598
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 9: end of the year, and then I'll probably take November

1599
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 9: December off and uh going to Australia I think at

1600
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 9: the end of February March while the go to Europe

1601
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 9: for a minute, then coming to the States.

1602
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 3: Didn't you play the Apollo recently?

1603
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I heard about that Thursday night.

1604
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 7: What was that like for you, that's like Ebony magazine.

1605
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 9: When we were kids. You guys know, when we were kids,

1606
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 9: we didn't talk about the Garden. We didn't talk about

1607
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 9: the Colisee, even Chlobe. We about playing the Apollo. And

1608
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 9: I always wanted to play the Pollow. And when they

1609
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 9: had the show, show Time at the Pollow, who you

1610
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 9: got to play on the stage? You play two songs

1611
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 9: on show Time at the Apollo. Our second record we

1612
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 9: played played the TV show Show at the Apollo.

1613
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 3: How did that come out? What was that like?

1614
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 9: It was? It was a little different, no booze.

1615
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I was drunk.

1616
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 9: But Thursday night, Thursday night, we set a record for

1617
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 9: white people in the Apollo. Yeah, it was, it was,

1618
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 9: it was. It was awesome, that's true. Yeah, they played

1619
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 9: the Apollo. McCartney played the Apollo too, so they probably

1620
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 9: had us. We were probably even.

1621
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:45,640
Speaker 3: But it was.

1622
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 9: It was.

1623
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 10: Greater than I ever thought it was.

1624
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 9: It was such a great show and be on that

1625
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 9: stage and we like broke out some Temptation songs and

1626
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 9: and all that stuff.

1627
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 10: It was. It was nice, man, It was great. Yeah.

1628
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: Do you mix up the repertoire of songs you like

1629
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 3: to cover your show.

1630
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 9: It always because I was I still love covers. I'm

1631
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 9: a cover band singer. I mean, so we'll break out

1632
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 9: like we break we do this thing where we do

1633
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 9: uh Garth Brooks, Uh friends and no places right in

1634
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 9: the no diggity Wow. It's crazy, I mean back to back,

1635
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 9: it's crazy.

1636
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 11: Works to bring up my Garth Brooks analogy. What your

1637
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 11: R and B record? Chris Gaines?

1638
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 9: Remember that Chris Gaines Records Actually.

1639
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 7: Don't concept my stuff, Like, oh, I thought it.

1640
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 3: Was a good concept.

1641
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: I did not think of it think about it.

1642
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: At home, but I think you he definitely got more tracks.

1643
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, definitely, definitely definitely. Garth kind of ran screaming

1644
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 11: after that failed.

1645
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 3: You know, it was weird. I think when he came

1646
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 3: on our show. It was supposed to come on the show. Uh.

1647
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: One of his one of Garth's uh the Internet songs

1648
01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: like the extra songs that we do on the show

1649
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: was from that.

1650
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 3: Uh. What was the name of his? Chris, Chris Gaines.

1651
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 7: Do you have country friends.

1652
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 9: You know like other countries with all those Yeah, that's

1653
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 9: the one thing about the community.

1654
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 10: Country music community is real.

1655
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 9: Try I got on my record, I got Luke Brian

1656
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 9: Jason Aldean all one on the same song.

1657
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, those are my boys. Yeah.

1658
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 3: Question about the industry, the country music industry.

1659
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 11: I have a pretty good idea of what most people's

1660
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 11: grapes are within the R and B and hip hop industry.

1661
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 11: What do you not like about the country music music industry?

1662
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 9: Radio is so slow, Like right now on radio is

1663
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,839
Speaker 9: in such a slow burn with songs, and it takes

1664
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 9: if you're not one of the five big ones, it

1665
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 9: could take thirty weeks for your for your for your

1666
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 9: song to go up to charts and number I think

1667
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 9: my last number one took like forty weeks.

1668
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: Is it?

1669
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: Is it the same system as so with hip hop

1670
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of clear channel uh related stuff. Songs

1671
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: are added way ahead of time, so you know, like

1672
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: if you're taking Beyonce's newest song that hasn't come out yet,

1673
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: they'll pre program it. Wait, you know, weeks ahead of time?

1674
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it more moment because I know that,

1675
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, with a lot of the record sales, like

1676
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, Walmart plays a bit like they're still buying

1677
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: physical copy. Is radio still ten fifteen years behind as

1678
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: far as ads and as far as the country world is?

1679
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 9: Oh? Yeah, yeah, it's still they you know, they add it,

1680
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 9: and you know, you get you're the most added song

1681
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 9: of the week, and you still don't make the top forty.

1682
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 9: You don't make the top fifty, you know, just because

1683
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 9: you're getting spent. You're getting spun at three in the

1684
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 9: morning and four in the morning, five and then.

1685
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 10: It's a slow build.

1686
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 9: They just want to build and they want to build,

1687
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 9: and I don't know, it's just the way it is.

1688
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 9: I don't know why it's like that, And it's like

1689
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 9: that for everybody Taylor, because I'm wondering, Okay, Taylor, like

1690
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 9: Taylor's a unicorn and she.

1691
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 8: Doesn't even new country automatic.

1692
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: She doesn't count like Kenny Rogers. Well no, even than

1693
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers still get played on. Let me don't Scooby

1694
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: do me yet? No, just meaning that she's more pop ubiquitous,

1695
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: and that's what I thought in the country. So I'm

1696
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, are you chilling with like uh

1697
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 1: Casey Musgraves.

1698
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 10: Or yeah, absolutely, I mean.

1699
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,839
Speaker 3: Chris Stapleton, Yeah, Chris.

1700
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 9: Chris, I've written two three of my number ones together, or.

1701
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 3: The real deal.

1702
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 10: He's the real deal. This is how good he is.

1703
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: Because I was like every time he performs, man, we're

1704
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: always like damn, he got us again, Like.

1705
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 10: Dude, this is how good he is. When we write

1706
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 10: a song.

1707
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 9: He can't sing the demo because he sang the demo

1708
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 9: to one of my number ones, and I wasn't gonna

1709
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 9: cut it because he so freaking good. I kept saying

1710
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 9: to my producer, I haven't seen you.

1711
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: Would you would be a Chris Stable to stand what

1712
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: you married?

1713
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 3: No, I mean like you he Yeah, he must be cute.

1714
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: I would want Chris Stapleton on the Roots album, like,

1715
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: that's how good he is.

1716
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 8: But Darius record first because you already told him that.

1717
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we already got that. But I'm just saying, that's

1718
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 3: how dope he is, Like he's listening.

1719
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: I should I I'm trying to look under the hood

1720
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 1: to see, you know, what was there and you know.

1721
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 3: But it's he's the real deal man.

1722
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 10: And Chris is doing it without radio player.

1723
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 9: Chris is never I don't think Christ has ever had

1724
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 9: a record the top ten and he's got the number

1725
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 9: one selling record. How's he killing Yeah? I don't know

1726
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 9: he's killing it because people know it's real to go

1727
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 9: in the shild and everything. I don't think Chris has

1728
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 9: ever had a record in the top ten.

1729
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 7: Oh so he's like too short maybe catching up in

1730
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 7: that way though, Like there's a lot of people you progressive,

1731
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 7: That's what I mean.

1732
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 3: I like him, so that's how progressive he is.

1733
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 10: He's great, he's a real deal.

1734
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 3: He's just it's off the chain.

1735
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 8: So, man, have you ever seen gone to a club

1736
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 8: and see another black person saying country? I'm trying to

1737
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 8: see who's after Darius.

1738
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 9: King Brown who's got a number one right now, His

1739
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 9: record's number one this week King Brown. And there's a

1740
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 9: couple of other young ladies that are coming that are

1741
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 9: coming up that are trying to Mickey Guyton is one

1742
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 9: trying to get a foothold, you know, trying to get

1743
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 9: a hit. And uh, there's there's a few I think

1744
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 9: me coming over and having success. I'm not gonna say

1745
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 9: I open doors, but that that that A and R

1746
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 9: person who would have looked at the CD and so

1747
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 9: is the black person and throw it in the trash

1748
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 9: probably gives it a listen now.

1749
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 10: And and so there's there's Guy's coming along.

1750
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 2: There's a black hockey player now too.

1751
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 9: There's a lot of we're taking hockey. Yeah, there's like

1752
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 9: fourteen of us at hockey.

1753
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 3: Now we're a.

1754
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: Black hockey goalie too. Have you ever seen that that's

1755
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 2: the ultimate nominally that exists?

1756
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 9: How could you say that? With Grant Furre was one

1757
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 9: of the greatest ever.

1758
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: That's true.

1759
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 2: Sports references Now we go super deep on college football

1760
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 2: right now.

1761
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 10: If you want to be good, goes Dems. You want

1762
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 10: to go man.

1763
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 2: Game Cock is not doing so well this year.

1764
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 9: We'll talk about we're four, we're five and two. Who

1765
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 9: take me at you again?

1766
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 3: They'll just give it up.

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01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: I come from an Auburn My ex wife the same

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01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: one who's from Alabama, she is an Auburn fan. And

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: it'd be as a Jewish kid from Long Island. You

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01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: don't know what that's like until you get there, and

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Speaker 2: it's fucking insane.

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01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,839
Speaker 10: Absolutely sanity absolute.

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Speaker 3: Why is it such a religion though?

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: Because they don't there's nothing else.

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01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 9: There's nothing else. There's no pro teams. I mean there's

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01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 9: pro teams in the area. Like we got the Falcons,

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01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 9: so we got Charlotte. But like and and and the

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01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 9: thing is, when you go to school for four or

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01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 9: five years, you you're invested in it. And when your

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01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 9: football team is I mean football is everything in the Southeast.

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01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 9: Everything Saturday stops. Saturday stops like my tailgating spot. It

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01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 9: was one of the few things I've spurs done.

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01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 5: The shoes.

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01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 9: So much money on this tailgate spot. But for me,

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01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 9: it's like I want to go be able to tailgate

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01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 9: without people, but.

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01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 3: Without people by my friends are there?

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01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 7: Isn't not Your tailgate spot is not outside.

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01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 9: You know what's out? You got a la since then,

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01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 9: I got me a big old it's called I got

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01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 9: a big old caboose that's in there.

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01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 5: I love these over Yeah tails crazy.

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: It's awesome, Am.

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01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 10: And we get there four hours before the game. By

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01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 10: game time, hammered.

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01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 7: Darius was drinking choice.

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01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 9: I drink beer, but I like to drink. I'm a

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01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,719
Speaker 9: whiskey drinker. I got my own whiskey out now backstage, whiskey.

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01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 10: If any of your drinks back whiskey.

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Speaker 3: If you have heard of.

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01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 9: It's good. Next time, I'll bring you a bottle.

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01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 3: Wait, we're all pulling out whiskey right now.

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01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm making whiskey notes even two pm.

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01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 3: Right eventually.

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01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 2: Five o'clock.

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01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: Yes, we will show unannounced at your house anytime.

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01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 10: You'll welcome anytime my house in Charleston.

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01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 3: Well I thank you very much for coming on our

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Speaker 3: show today, record, thank you.

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Speaker 1: On be having Sugar, Steve Unpaid and Boss Bill. It's

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Speaker 1: Laia and the newly nuptialed uh Fontigolo. This is Quest

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Speaker 1: Love signing off of course loved Supreme. We'll see you

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