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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. I

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Speaker 1: had Francis and Godnuo and he lost his son a

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Speaker 1: Francis and god news son. Do you regret how things

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Speaker 1: played out with Francis because you talk about the heavyweight

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Speaker 1: some reason what he did. I think he defended his

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Speaker 2: Get something done. Are you? Are you disappointed with how

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Speaker 2: that played out?

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Speaker 3: Dana, No, because we did everything in our power to

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Speaker 3: try to make that John Jones fight, and it is

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Speaker 3: what it is.

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Speaker 1: He said that. Now I'm just going about what he said.

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Speaker 1: He said the UFC. I'm as scene assuming if the

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Speaker 1: UFC that's you said John Jones was afraid of him.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe John Jones was afraid of Francis?

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Speaker 3: Not only is John Jones not afraid of Francis, John

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Speaker 3: Jones is the baddest fighter to ever lift ever in

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Speaker 3: any combat sport. If you look at John Jones is

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Speaker 3: undefeated in the UFC right his He's got one loss

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Speaker 3: on his record. He lost to Steve Mazagatti, do you

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Speaker 1: And Steve Mazagotti, No, you're thinking of the other GUYI.

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Speaker 3: This is a guy that should have never ever been

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Speaker 3: period when the Athletic Commission was at its worst, and

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Speaker 3: John Jones did not lose that fight. John Jones destroyed

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Speaker 3: the guy that he fought in that fight, and this

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Speaker 3: guy fucked the fight up. John Jones is undefeated, never lost,

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Speaker 3: and he went through murderer's row. Then he goes out

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Speaker 3: for three years, right sits out for three years, comes

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Speaker 3: back and beats Cyril Gun like that easily. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: he does the same thing to Francis one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Does the same thing to Francis John Jones. Francis didn't

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Speaker 3: want to fight John Jones. John Jones is the scariest,

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Speaker 3: when you think about the lifestyle this guy was living

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Speaker 3: And John Jones is one of those guys that won't

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Speaker 3: truly be appreciated until he's gone. But I'm telling you

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Speaker 3: right now, when you talk about who the baddest man

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Speaker 3: who's walking out? It's fucking John Jones all day, every time.

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Speaker 1: Did you know when you first met him, did you

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Speaker 3: Not really, It was when we just started seeing him

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Speaker 2: And he's running through him. I mean, it's not.

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Speaker 3: For anybody to even try to say John Jones wouldn't

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Speaker 3: I mean that's that's just a fact. And uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: He had a fight, he tore he was supposed to fight,

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Speaker 1: But he thinks the better fight will be with Aspinaul

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Speaker 1: Stepe did have the bill. I think I owe him.

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Speaker 1: What's the fight do you think makes the first of all,

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Speaker 1: he has to fight Stepe. That's just that fight has

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Speaker 3: You have a guy who's looked at as the greatest

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Speaker 3: Horrendous and they don't know anything about the sport, and

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Speaker 3: But if John Jones beats Stepe, then aspinall it's just it's.

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Speaker 2: So he should be.

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Speaker 1: So if he beats Steepe, he beats Aspinall, he should

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Speaker 3: There's nothing for him to prove now. He already moved

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Speaker 3: what so the Perira fight? You think because Pereiro, I

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Speaker 3: Now when John Jones gets his hands on you, you're

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Speaker 1: What makes him so unique because there are a lot

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Speaker 3: John Jones has a great chin. John Jones is good

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Speaker 3: He's a killer. John Jones doesn't go in and try

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you love most about him. You

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Speaker 3: To get times to that. He's just he's the best.

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Speaker 3: And there is a dark side to John Jones. Wow,

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Speaker 2: You, you know.

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Speaker 3: And then John Jones the stuff that's gone on in

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Speaker 1: Yes, John Jones is a bad dude. Do you ever

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Speaker 3: We see it in the MGM Grand Lobby. People are

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Speaker 1: Right, Daniel, you guys have made some positive strides as

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Speaker 2: Where where do we standing on this?

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Speaker 1: How do we get Obviously, they're not gonna make football money,

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Speaker 3: Well, nobody really knows how much a lot of these

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Speaker 3: to know how much they make either, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: there's a narrative from you know, people that don't like

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is is that the money is

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Speaker 3: Start your own nixed martial arts organization, and you pay

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Speaker 2: Most of this narrative is by.

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Speaker 1: I look at you guys, Dana, You're like the NFL.

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Speaker 3: But then once you get into it and you start

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen the kids out there and he's doing his

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Speaker 3: You know what do I think of the Mike Tyson fighting? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I think that Mike Tyson has a puncher's chance against anybody.

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Speaker 3: For livy, Fight guys that box for a living and

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Speaker 2: That he says he wants to fight Canilo. Understand what

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Speaker 2: Jake, Jake needs these guys.

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Speaker 2: He lost. It is what it is. I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the guys that were involved in that

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Speaker 3: Ronda Rousey greatest athlete I've ever worked with.

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Speaker 3: the UFC and women, all these other women were training

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00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: to beat her, you know what I mean. She had

439
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: taken so much on her shoulders at the time, it

440
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 3: was literally impossible for her to keep growing as a

441
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: fighter during that period.

442
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: God, so now we see UFC fighters becoming movie stars.

443
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: We see Ronda Rousey. We've mentioned to her Connor McGregor,

444
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: he was in his own movie. Ronda's been in several movies.

445
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: Are you pleased with do you like do you like

446
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: that your fighters UFC that they're becoming so big that

447
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: they're able to brand out and even grow the UFC

448
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: even more.

449
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 3: Well, you have Connors and Ronda's that are very unique.

450
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: It's hard to take those two and compare them to

451
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: all the rest you look at. We already talked about Connor,

452
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 3: but if you look at Ronda, she came in and

453
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: flew the UFC up for women, opened the doors for

454
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: all women to come in. She's written books that have

455
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 3: been New York Times bestsellers. She's written, Uh, she just

456
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 3: wrote a screenplay for her own story. She went into

457
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: the WWI and became a star, sponsorship deals, She's done.

458
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: There's things Ronda's done that will never be done again.

459
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 3: So you're looking at very unique.

460
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: Very unique situations, and everybody's not that. But you know, Dana,

461
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 1: you know everybody comes with the aspirations of being in

462
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: their female being Ronda Rousey or being Connor McGregor.

463
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: As you should.

464
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: And what happened with Nunez another I love a man

465
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 3: of noon as we have an incredible relationship.

466
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Speaker 2: Is she coming back?

467
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: Huh?

468
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: Is she coming back?

469
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: She could come back. There's the possibilities she could come back.

470
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: But again, a very unique individual in her own right,

471
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: you know, very powerful woman that is looked at as

472
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 3: the goat now female fighting, you know, married to another

473
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: female fighter, so very inspirational and big in the gay

474
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 3: and lesbian community, you know, now a mother. You know,

475
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: she blazed her own trail in UFC. Like everybody's journey

476
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: is different and not the same. You know, as an

477
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: athlete and as a human.

478
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: I read that you were the one that really got

479
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: Rock into social media. What's what's your relationship with the Rock?

480
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: I have a great relationship with him. Uh, you know,

481
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: we probably talked a couple of times a month. And yeah,

482
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: at the time, he wasn't on social media, and I

483
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: was like, are you nuts? Do you have any idea

484
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: how big you would be on social media? And da

485
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: da da da dad.

486
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: And I actually the people that ran my social media,

487
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: I put on his to get him up and started

488
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 3: and kind of get him going. And obviously, you know,

489
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: the guy's a trailblazer now and in social media and

490
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 3: one of the biggest followed humans on Earth.

491
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: And he loves he loves UFC because he's doing a

492
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: doc Is he doing a doc Loork like Mark Kerr.

493
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: No, he's doing He's doing a film film, a film

494
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: based on the Smashing Machine.

495
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, do you have any I mean, did you

496
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: have any influence on that? Did you Like?

497
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that I influenced it. That was all him,

498
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: but I've obviously helped behind the scenes.

499
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, power slab Oh, I love it. I love it.

500
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there are very few times that

501
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: there are two slabs.

502
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: Is normally just one slab day?

503
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: No?

504
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: No, No, it's it's like fifty to fifty. Yeah, go

505
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: to decisions or knockouts. Yeah, there's there's way more back

506
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: and forth than people realize because all you see on

507
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: social is the viral side of it. But this thing

508
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 3: is a beast. It's the most successful thing that I

509
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: have ever been a part of in my career in

510
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: such a short amount of time, in sixteen months. This

511
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: thing is only sixteen months old. We have more more

512
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 3: followers than like the NHL, PGA, NASCAR and many many others,

513
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 3: and we're about to take over Major League Baseball too

514
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: here pretty soon on all social platforms and billions billions

515
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: of views and just sixteen months ibadah on. This thing

516
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: is off the charts. The revenue is unbelievable and we

517
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: have more sponsors in sixteen months than the UFC had

518
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: in eight years.

519
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: How do you train for power slant? So what's starting

520
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: to happen now? This is the same.

521
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: These are all the same questions people ask me about

522
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: UFC in the old days. I'm like, God, this is garbage.

523
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: You jump on top of another guy, you can do this,

524
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: you can do that. It's human cock fighting. Now this

525
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 3: because as soon as money gets involved and you can

526
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: actually start to make a living doing this, people start

527
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: taking it serious and people start So when when athletes

528
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: come in to slap, we put them through the Performance

529
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Institute and they go go through the same type of training.

530
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 3: We measure them for force, velocity, speed, you know, and

531
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: people are actually starting to train and take this thing

532
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: serious because there's real money involved now, I mean, I'm

533
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: just I mean, And this thing was global overnight. This

534
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 3: thing started in Russia and Poland That's where I started

535
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 3: to see this stuff coming from. And uh, you know,

536
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: we pull massive numbers in places like Southeast Asia, India, Brazil.

537
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: There's already two knockoff leagues in Brazil, and you know,

538
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: you're starting to see these smaller leagues pop up all

539
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: over the world.

540
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: Now. So when you first saw it, you was like,

541
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: so when you first saw power Slap, what was the

542
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: first thing that went through Dana whitees mass This is crazy?

543
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 2: What the hell is this? Exactly?

544
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: And I was fascinated and I started to watch it,

545
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: and I started to dig deeper and take a deeper

546
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: dive into it. And I was looking at some of

547
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: these numbers that were coming out of Russia and Poland

548
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: three hundred and fifty million views on YouTube and stuff

549
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: like that. And our YouTube channel is massive now, right,

550
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: And you want to realize something, So I started putting

551
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: this thing on UFC's YouTube. Yeah, number one, two, three

552
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: and four all time video views or power Slap on

553
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: USC's YouTube. When you think about Connor McGregor Habib, you

554
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: think about brock Lesner, Ronda Rousey, some of the big

555
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: stars that we've had in some of the big moments. Yeah,

556
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: so the second biggest thing on my social media ever

557
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: now is Max Holloway knocking out Justin gate J.

558
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Yes.

559
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Number one is power Slop. When he called it in

560
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: the play, I'm a massive number one, right, what about

561
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: celebrities participating in power slap It.

562
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: Will eventually happen. No, it'll eventually, I wanted to Shannon,

563
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have you pretty sure.

564
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: Hell, I don't want I don't want to be a

565
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: no UFC. I don't want to get choked. I don't

566
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: want to get kicked, at least in boxing data. I

567
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: ain't got to worry about but too d right here

568
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: in UFC, you gotta worry about kick but that slap.

569
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: Man, I know.

570
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: And they got your hand behind your back and they

571
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: already know what's going to happen because they got two

572
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: people to catch you because they know you about to

573
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: go down.

574
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: These guys are so tough man, so tough and and

575
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: and the balls. It takes yeah out there and perform

576
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: on the world stage into this when you know it's

577
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: going to be the biggest thing virally on earth.

578
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: Nah, Well, I don't I tell you what. I hate

579
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: to be the first.

580
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: I hate the first athlete because he goes he's gonna

581
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: be the biggest, that's gonna be the both biggest viral movement.

582
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: Because when you get an athlete that does that, a professional,

583
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: next professional athlete.

584
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: This thing's been around for sixteen months and we have

585
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: six billion views over six billion dues. Yeah right, think

586
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: about that.

587
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: The first athlete to give the slap, he gonna do

588
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: a big adviody.

589
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: In the world. Eight billion people in the world. We

590
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: have six billion views in sixteen months.

591
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

592
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: I mean when you really wrap your head around how

593
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 3: big power slap is and the numbers that it pulls,

594
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: it's absolutely fascinating. And I love it because it's another

595
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 3: one of those things that people said, uh uh, this

596
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: won't work.

597
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Give me three football players and three basketball players that

598
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: you believe would be great MMA fighters.

599
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: You gotta well, you gotta start with the two goats.

600
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, Brady Man. You know, damn we

601
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: have Brady gonna be no MLA fights.

602
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, if you think about the mindset

603
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: that it takes to be great, that's that's number one.

604
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: It starts with the mindset. You gotta go with Brady

605
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: and you gotta go with your Okay, So let's get

606
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: those two out of the way. Jordan is a killer.

607
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: I've spoke about Michael Jordans many times. Never met him,

608
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: don't know, don't want to meet him. I like him

609
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 3: too much. I respect him too much. I love his

610
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: killer instant, don't want to meet him, respect him to death.

611
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: So take those two. Then, now let's get into the

612
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: next four, which is going to be tougher when you

613
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: talk about big explosive power. So Marcedes Lewis, he's a

614
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: huge UFC fan, yes, obviously an unbelievable athlete and whatever

615
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: has the mindsets been in the game forever. I'm gonna

616
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: go with him too, just because he's such a huge

617
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 3: fan of the sports and gets it and uh, you know,

618
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: you look at all his attributes.

619
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: As far as a physical.

620
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: Basketball, basketball these days is tough because they as tough

621
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: as they used to be.

622
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: I guess you'd have to go with Lambier. Let's go

623
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: with Lamber take World Metal Pieces.

624
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: I'll take him too. Now, you probably would to take

625
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Charles Oakley. Yeah, Oakley's another good one. You're right, Oakley,

626
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: big baby shack Man, Shaq too b too big, Yeah,

627
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: because you got you gotta Shaq seven to one, probably

628
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: three fifty.

629
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: Now imagine Shack on top of you, the Shack and

630
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: his heyday. We're not talking about Shack today or three.

631
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: He's three twenty five. I mean, you got a limit

632
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: you can pick in his hey day. When you see

633
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: Shaq back in the day, Oh yeah, Jack used to

634
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: bitch over four acts. You know, the speed, theg the power.

635
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: But you got a limit. You can only be two

636
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: sixty five. Yeah, Shaq was two sixty five in high school.

637
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: Now I gotta pick weight classes only, shit, I mean no, Yeah.

638
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: If I was just talking to.

639
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: Those guys that could, that could go in and you

640
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: think kick your ass, Shaq would definitely be one of them.

641
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Jay.

642
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: When you go back to James Johnson the football too,

643
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: and I think about some of these stuff, I mean

644
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: there's so many probably you know, big talented, physical Apple. Yeah,

645
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: you'd have to look at too. H Yeah, you'd have

646
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: to look at Peyton, right, Walter Payton.

647
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: It's definitely a mindset.

648
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: That's why I started with the guys that had the

649
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: mindset first. You know, Jordan and Brady both have the

650
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: winning whatever it takes to win, the mindset. Jordan, to

651
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 3: me is Jordan is the I mean in any sport.

652
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: When you look at the way Jordan was and when

653
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: you look at some of the clips on how physical

654
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: it got with him, and and you know.

655
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: He didn't care, no, no, he didn't.

656
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: He was sick at one hundred and four degree temperature.

657
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: Whatever it was. Everything about Jordan equals winner.

658
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: But he's like that in every aspect of his life.

659
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: And that's what I hear. He can't do. Let know him.

660
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: He can't do anything.

661
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: He can't do anything for fun, right, He's got to

662
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: be a competition, and it's got to be something involved,

663
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: normally a large or.

664
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: He has to be pissed at you. He has to

665
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: be pissed at you and not like it. He has

666
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: to create conflict, yeah, for him to have to want

667
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: to call it.

668
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: But if you beat him in something he's pissed at you,

669
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: he's going to double the stakes, you know. And I

670
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a fair comparison, but a

671
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: lot of people compare you and not in this aspect

672
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: because we know what transpirted off. The thing is that

673
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: you and Vince McMahon have a lot of similarities with

674
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: the way you conduct your business as far as him

675
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: running the WWE, he's no longer in charge there and

676
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: you running the UFC. How did you learn how to

677
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: run a business not ever being in business?

678
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: I did.

679
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: I did run businesses myself, but not at this level

680
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: right at this you know the type of finances.

681
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: Is it the same thing?

682
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: Can you can you run a business, a law level business,

683
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: and then take the same mindset and run a bit

684
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar business.

685
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: I think you can. I think you can. But I

686
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: was just very fortunate in that. Two things that I've done.

687
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: I always learned from other people, you know, the ability

688
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: to learn and see things and learn from certain people.

689
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 3: But I've also I'd say my biggest talent is building

690
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 3: a team. Nobody does anything by themselves. Build a team

691
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: around you that you can count on. So I've built

692
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: a team of people that when I say this is

693
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: what I want, I have the right people who can

694
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: implement what I want and get shit done that I

695
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: don't have to tell somebody something twice. You can't have

696
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: those type of people around you. If I got to

697
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: tell you something fucking twice, it doesn't work here. And

698
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 3: the other thing is I've also had the ability to

699
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: when I say I want this fucking done, I want

700
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: it done now. If I call you at two in

701
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: the morning, I expect you to answer the phone if

702
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: you work for me and all this other stuff. Yet

703
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 3: I also want my people to not miss their kids, practice,

704
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: not miss their kids, play, not miss their kids. You

705
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: know a lot of the things that happen in life

706
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: while you're building a business. So it's a very it's

707
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: a weird. Yeah, yeah, it's true.

708
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: But when I tell people, and people tell me share

709
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: and you're crazy, I say, you have to have people

710
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: as equally obsessed as you are.

711
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 2: In order for this thing to work.

712
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: People have to be bought in on the vision, especially

713
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: in the early days. Yes, it's easy to get people

714
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 3: on board for the vision now. Yes, But for me

715
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: to hire Craig war sorry, my head of production away

716
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: from Fox, for me to hire some of my guys

717
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: that are here legally from big law firms, and you know,

718
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: the greatest PR person in all of fucking business over there, Yes,

719
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: to keep her from going to somewhere else. The talented

720
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: production people that I have here, the talented salespeople that

721
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: I have here that work in sponsorship, all those jobs

722
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: are in New York and LA.

723
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: They're not in Vegas. Right.

724
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: You have to have people bought it on your vision,

725
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: and and and uh and and like you said, be

726
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: obsessed and love this as much as I do.

727
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: Obviously, NBA, NFL Roger Goodell Adam Silver, have you ever

728
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: spoken to those guys, Do you take any note from

729
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: how they conduct their league and what you can learn

730
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: or did you take anything from to different different.

731
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't put this on those guys. It was

732
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: their their predecessor, the guys before them. I would look

733
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: at the things like them reading canned statements from lawyers

734
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: that I always hated them. Being too corporate I always hated.

735
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: So I did learn a lot about the guys before them,

736
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: and people will always try to ask me, oh, Roger

737
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: Goodell doesn't do this, that and everything. You could run

738
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: the NFL. I wouldn't want the NFL because you got

739
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: thirty two bosses. Touch the NFL. Okay, and credit to

740
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: him for what he did. Say whatever you want about

741
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 3: Godel and Silver and all these guys. Those leaves continue

742
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: to go like this. They continue to make money, they

743
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 3: continue to thrive, they continue to do well. I don't

744
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: I don't point the fingers anything they do, and I

745
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 3: don't look to them for guidance or advice at all.

746
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: You're a very generous man, doll Well. Thank you.

747
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: You very generous to your workers, to people that believe

748
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: in that believe in you and see your vision. Like

749
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: you say it, I call to expect you to answer

750
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: the phone because I'm compensating you handsomely. I expect that,

751
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: but you are where did that generosity come from?

752
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: Well, it's not even that I'm compensating you. It's it's

753
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 3: this is a very unique business, and that this isn't

754
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: a nine to five. This isn't a you know, this

755
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: is a you'll hear that. It's true, though. This is

756
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 3: a twenty four hour a day, seven day a week,

757
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: three sixty five mad.

758
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 2: Fucking madhouse, I guess I'll call it.

759
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: And the hard part about this job is it's like

760
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: Groundhog Day, right, Every Monday is fight week, and we

761
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: you know, you get into this hamster wheel. So to

762
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: keep it fun and to keep it different and to

763
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: keep growing and to keep going to different levels, you

764
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: need I need people that work here that are accessible

765
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: and creative and can do things on the fly and

766
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: can turn things around in a minute. Fight fighters fall

767
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: all the time. We got to rip all the billboards down.

768
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: We've got to change all the marketing. We got to

769
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: sell a new fight. We got to do this. Any

770
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: people that are are ready to go. And but also

771
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: I understand how hard these people work and the sacrifices

772
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,479
Speaker 3: they make, and I try to reward them in many

773
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: other ways other than compensation. We do lots of fun

774
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: things around it. We throw killer parties out in this backyard.

775
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: We do concerts over and and the the arena that

776
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: we have next door, and I try to do fun

777
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: things and involve their families in it. I want the

778
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: people who work here, I want their kids and their

779
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: significant others to like the UFC and be a part exactly.

780
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: You know.

781
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: I hear stories where these big corporate companies will throw

782
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: parties and they don't even have a plus one. It's

783
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: just the people who work there having parties with the

784
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: people who work there. Right now, that's not what we

785
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: do here.

786
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: Do the employees when they're coming on, do they understand

787
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: what's going to be asked of them and then what's

788
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: demanded from them? Do they do you explain that to them?

789
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Or are they give it a great explanation? Do you

790
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: understand what you're about to embark up on?

791
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: I think they do, yeah, And I think I think

792
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: it's at a level now where people realize, you know,

793
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: we have an intern program here too. Okay, And in

794
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: my opinion, we have the best intern program in all

795
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: of sports. Kids come here and actually do stuff, they

796
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: actually learn and our hands on with with real business

797
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: that's happening in the UFC. And every time the interns

798
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 3: come they meet with me and then when they leave

799
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: they with me and uh, we've hired many interns. Wow, yeah,

800
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: many interns work here. My right hand guy, who is

801
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: my right hand guy, started here as an intern.

802
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah. He is in the day.

803
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: To day shit with me all day every day, professionally

804
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: and personally. He was an intern here at this company.

805
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: You live in Vegas, we know it's the scripts just

806
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: right up the street. You like to partake in gambling,

807
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: I do. I've heard the story that you've won a

808
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: couple of million dollars and they've asked you not to

809
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: come back and partake anymore.

810
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's having a few times.

811
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 3: Actually, what's your game, well, Blackshack, I've been playing pretty

812
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 3: much my whole life.

813
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: I just started to get into bakara now, okay, and

814
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: money really change hand in baccarat. I love it. It's

815
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: it's been fun.

816
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: I've been playing for like two and a half three months,

817
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: and yeah, I gamble almost every night.

818
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Every night almost, I can't say every night, but hold on,

819
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: how do you live in Vegas? You?

820
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: How do you live in Vegas? And you stand and

821
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: can see those I told you that I love adversity,

822
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: I love conflict. I love if I don't have it,

823
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: I create it. So yeah, gambling is one of my

824
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: favorite hobbies. I love to do it.

825
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: So I should probably take up fucking bowling or burden. Yeah.

826
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: Not only do I love everything about gambling, I love

827
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: everything about this city, this city. First of all, I

828
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: love America. I love this country and one of the

829
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: things that I love about this country is that it

830
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: is truly the land of opportunity.

831
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: Right. You and I are both proof.

832
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: Of that, right right, doesn't matter where you come from,

833
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: or how you were raised or anything else. If you

834
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: have the right mindset and you go after something, it

835
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: can happen in this country. Yes, I look at Vegas

836
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: as like a little America. Vegas is exactly like America.

837
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: When you come to this city and you have the

838
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 3: right idea and you're willing to work hard enough, anything

839
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: is possible in this city. And there's nowhere else in

840
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: the world that you can go out with two hundred bucks,

841
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: have a great dinner, go out and party all night,

842
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 3: have a blast, see some shows, do this and that,

843
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: and come home with a thousand dollars. There's no other

844
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 3: place in the world that you can do that. This

845
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: city you can do that. But on the flip side,

846
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: this is also one of those cities that, if you

847
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: don't have the right mindset, can chew you up and

848
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: spit you out in two seconds. I can't tell if

849
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: this city was built for me or if I was

850
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: built for this city, but I love it and I

851
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: couldn't imagine living anywhere else.

852
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: Will you played blackjack? Are you playing single hand? Or

853
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: you have the table to yourself, or you will at

854
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: the table with buddy. I have a table to myself

855
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: and I played double deck. You played double deck.

856
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

857
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: And my strategy is this, I want to bet as

858
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: much as I possibly can in one hand. Let me

859
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: bet as much as I can. My goal before I

860
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: die is to bet a million dollar hand.

861
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: Well, you got a million dollars.

862
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: Hold on only I don't know if they still a

863
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: lie that we used to be benions No free bot right.

864
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: How do you know this? You're absolutely right. It's one

865
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: of the greatest stories that's never been. Yeah, there should

866
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: be a movie about Benny Benyon. Kay I made his grandson.

867
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't cool with his grandson. Okay, well his philosophy.

868
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: He was an old school Vegas gangster type dude. Okay,

869
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: you didn't fuck around on the horseshoe, you didn't go

870
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: in there and cheat, you didn't do any kind of stuff.

871
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: And guys would walk in and say what's the limit,

872
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: and he would say, your first bet is your limit?

873
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: How gangster is that? Yes, whatever, you could pay it,

874
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: whatever you put that in. He covered whatever your first

875
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: bet is, that's your limit. So if you wanted a

876
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: million dollar limit, your first bet was a million, none

877
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: of this. Five dollars, five dollars, five dollars a million.

878
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

879
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, do you know the story about Arnie that

880
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: came in there and he almost bankrupt Obinions?

881
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: I do? I do. There's so many great stories on

882
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: a Binions.

883
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I used to go take the

884
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 1: pictures and they had all the A thousand dollars bills

885
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: million dollars.

886
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was a million dollars. Yeah, how do

887
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: you have this?

888
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: I used to have I'm not gonna lie. I used

889
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: to have the stomach to be able to go and

890
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: I play. I wouldn't play like you play, and I play.

891
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: You know, maybe five thousand here, maybe ten thousand dollars

892
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: hand there. But I don't have the stomach anymore because

893
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: you can't look at that when you're playing.

894
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: You can't look at that is money, right.

895
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Because you got to just look at that like this

896
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: is a glass or it's not a denomination at that

897
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: point in time.

898
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 3: And that's what I was always fascinated in. When I

899
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: was younger, I would go watch these guys play high

900
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: stakes black jack, and I would equate every bat to

901
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: what you could buy with it. You know, that's a

902
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 3: car that's in the hole, yells yeah. And I've always

903
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: been fascinated with it. And now I'm one of those guys.

904
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 3: But like I told you earlier when we started talking,

905
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 3: I have a crazy high tolerance for risk.

906
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: I clearly I love risk. And do you give yourself

907
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: a limit? Says Okay, I'm going to here. I'm gonna

908
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: play whatever the case may be. A million dollars. If

909
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: a million dollars, I'm out. If I win a million dollars,

910
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm out.

911
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: Yes.

912
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: So my strategy is always this, let me bet as

913
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: much as I possibly can. Right, Let's say it's a

914
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: three hundred thousand dollars hand, right, you win two or

915
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 3: three hens and you leave.

916
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: Didn't let you do that? Yeah? Yeah, you don't stay

917
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: there and play for hours. Uh uh.

918
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 3: And what a lot of these casinos try to do.

919
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 3: And this is the reason that I'm not allowed to

920
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: play in some of these. So I beat the Palms

921
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: twice for one point six million dollars. I got kicked

922
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: out both times. I literally have the heavyweight championship belt

923
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: they gave me in there. I was sixteen and oh

924
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: one point six million, and they asked me to leave twice.

925
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: And the way that they ask you to leave is

926
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: they drop your limits so that you can't pat that

927
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 3: much anymore. So they did it the Mirage did it

928
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: to me. The win they're the worst. Go to eat

929
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: it the win, eat it the win and hang out.

930
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: They'll get the greatest restaurants, but gambling at the win.

931
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: They're the biggest pussies on the strip in my opinion,

932
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: for what a big casino they are. But Caesar's Palace,

933
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: the Bellagio and the Venetian, those are the three real

934
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: real casinos in town that you can play big in

935
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: and they don't sweat you, they don't act weird when

936
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: you win or any of that stuff.

937
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't.

938
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: Oh So what I was saying is what most of

939
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: the casinos do. They fly you in, they put you

940
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: up in a hotel, and then they make you play

941
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: for a certain amount of hours.

942
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fuck that.

943
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 3: I'll go in and buy my own room, I'll pay

944
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: for my own dinner, and I'll walk out when I

945
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 3: want to. It's me versus you, Right, I'm one little guy,

946
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: you're a big casino company. Me versus you, one on one,

947
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: and I'll play one, two or five hands if I

948
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: want to.

949
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: So you do realize that you could potentially mess up

950
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: their quarterly report?

951
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: It just happened. Yes, I do realize that, And it

952
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: just happened. And you love that too. I love it.

953
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 2: When we're off camera, I'll.

954
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 3: Show you the quote during their Ernie's Call that that

955
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: that this just happened. Wow, in the month of April,

956
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 3: I fucked up their entire quarter.

957
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: Do you have a word about getting canceled, Dana?

958
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 3: What does that mean? Actually canceled? Canceled by who?

959
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

960
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: Canceled by who I obviously have in the UFC, and

961
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: in life, you have a fan base. Yeah, people that

962
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: love you regardless and do whatever it is you know,

963
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: that are in with you. Outside of those people in

964
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 3: my circle that I give a shit about, I could

965
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: care less. I could care less, and and I've seen

966
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: people talk about, oh well he has fuck you money

967
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 3: and all that other stuff. I equate it to being gay. Okay,

968
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: think about this in life back in the eighties, if

969
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 3: you came out and said you were gay, it could

970
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: destroy your career. It could destroy imagine living a life

971
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: where you can't.

972
00:48:58,880 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: Be who you really are.

973
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: Correct, It's it's got to be a horrible thing, right,

974
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: fuck that I am who I am. If you like

975
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: it or you don't like it, I don't give him

976
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: a fuck. That's your problem, not mine. So you're going

977
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: to have people who who do like you and don't

978
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 3: like you. This whole trying to cancel people thing, even

979
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 3: the thing when when when I did the the roast, No,

980
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: the interview with theovon and the guy from Peloton. I

981
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: don't know if you saw this, but the guy who

982
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: was running Peloton was sponsoring his show. He just stepped

983
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: down from Peloton actually within the last month, and he had.

984
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: Theovonne had.

985
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: Kennedy on his podcast, right, they called and said, you

986
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: need to take that episode down. What he's a fucking

987
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: Kennedy and he's a Democrat, and he's an American citizen,

988
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: and he has the right saying fucking think whatever he thinks.

989
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: You sell stationary fucking bikes for a living, and you

990
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: think because you spend money with THEO Vaughn, you have

991
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: the right to tell him to take another fucking American

992
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: down off his platform. Who the fuck do you think

993
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: you are? You arrogant, fucking piece of shit. Now, I'm

994
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 3: not trying to cancel Peloton or tell people, but I

995
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: ripped the Pelotons out of my fucking gym here at UFC.

996
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Did you rip them out of the gym that day?

997
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

998
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 3: I can't stand that stuff. That stuff makes me.

999
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: You don't like you don't like corporations of companies that

1000
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: bully people and dictate what someone can say and what

1001
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: they can show.

1002
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: Say, show talk about, promote, vote for any of that stuff. Man,

1003
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 3: It's like I you know, I was very liberal when

1004
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 3: I was younger. I lean more conservatively now because I'm

1005
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: all in for common sense. I want common sense. But

1006
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: I don't judge anybody by the politics. I don't discriminate

1007
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: against people. You know who, I discriminate against douchebags. Okay,

1008
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 3: if you're a douchebag, I probably don't like it.

1009
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

1010
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: But other than that, all this political bullshit and trying

1011
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 3: to cancel people, I'm I'm not.

1012
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 2: I'm not in man, not in.

1013
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: Do could you see yourself being a part owner of

1014
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: another professionals like an NFL team or an NBA team?

1015
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: Not really, I'm not.

1016
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1017
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: I couldn't see myself in that, in that sort of

1018
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 3: corporate structure. What me and the Fertitas like to do, Yeah,

1019
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 3: we take sports, niche sports that nobody thinks will work,

1020
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 3: and we build them into billion dollar businesses.

1021
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: That's what we do.

1022
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: Is it true that you move the birthdate of your

1023
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: child for a chulkladale fight.

1024
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: I did.

1025
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my son was supposed to be born, you know,

1026
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 3: they give you the due date when you think it's

1027
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: gonna happen, And it was a big chucolate l fight,

1028
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that's not gonna work for me.

1029
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to we're gonna have to We're gonna

1030
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: have to go and pull him out a little early.

1031
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: When people they saw the incident and you and your wife,

1032
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: what happened with you and your wife? How were you

1033
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: able to get past that, Dana, Because that had to

1034
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: be the toughest time that you had ever gone through

1035
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: in your life.

1036
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: There wasn't.

1037
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: COVID was really Yeah, COVID was way tougher than that.

1038
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: But the thing was, it wasn't about getting through it publicly, yes,

1039
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 3: it was about getting through it personally with my kids.

1040
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: Me and my wife. Me and my wife were fine.

1041
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 3: Me and my wife had whatever we you know, my kids,

1042
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: the kids had never seen that before. It was on

1043
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: the world stage. We embarrassed them, you know, and no

1044
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: kids want to see that. No, with your parents, everybody

1045
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 3: else can go fuck themselves. Okay, it had nothing to

1046
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 3: do with them. It was about my family. That's what's important.

1047
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: The people who know me and know her, they know

1048
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: us and we're fine. It was it was my kids.

1049
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 3: That was something personal between me and my family. So listen,

1050
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 3: people are going to have their people still talk about it,

1051
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: and people I would have an opinion too.

1052
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: I would have an opinion seeing that. You know what

1053
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: I mean.

1054
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: If that happened there on New Year's Eve, basically on

1055
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: stage at a club in Mexico, that probably isn't the

1056
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: first rodeo.

1057
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1058
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 3: I would say the same thing. But I know exactly

1059
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: who I am. My kids know who I am. I

1060
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 3: put my circle of people that I give a shit

1061
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 3: about know who I am, and that's what mattered to me.

1062
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: He's Dana White, not Joe Rogan Freig bro.

1063
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: All my life, grunting.

1064
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: All my life, sacrifice, hustle, peg the price, want a slice,

1065
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 4: got the all my life? I'll be grunting all my life,

1066
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 4: all my life, in.

1067
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: All my life.

1068
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 4: Second price us who play the price on the slice

1069
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 4: that you brought the dice? The swap all my life.

1070
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: I'd be grinding all my life.

1071
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: Mm hmm