WEBVTT - Mick Shots_3_13.mp3 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:09.920 Cowboys. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:17.000 This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.320 and the official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:31.680 Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.400 And it's not Monday morning at eleven am, but it 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.440 kind of sort of is because it's the second day 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:43.479 of the new year in the national foot's right, and 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:47.000 we have so much to talk about here on mix 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:52.959 Shots inside the STBBC podcast studio, and Mickey Spagnola has 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:58.520 returned from wherever he went. Everson Walls is in the 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.440 house as well, and we got a lot of catching 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:01.920 up to do. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:08.520 We sure do. Last night, you know, I was here work. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.240 Vicky's got his snowbeard going. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:10.520 I do. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.160 Ever since what's going on? 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.039 Well, there's no sense if you're out skiing to shave 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:18.720 excuse me. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.760 Wow, So you know I didn't know you were living 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:22.080 like that. 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.920 So yeah, it was just an annual ski trip for you. 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:28.400 It is, okay. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.640 Sometimes you know, way back, I used to go a 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.920 couple of times. Okay, now I'm limited to one. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.080 And the big news is you came back healthy. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.880 I did, thank god, not a prop. I don't ski 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.480 for a gold medal anymore. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.640 Okay anymore anymore? 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.640 Before I did, tried to get better and better, you know. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.840 So you timed it so that we could do mix 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.000 shots after the start of the new league. 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.280 That's why we'd have more to talk about. We wouldn't 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:57.160 be speculating. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.720 And I think we probably need more than forty five minutes. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:01.400 We succeeded. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.080 Last night. I was working. It was my day to write, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.640 and I was like, okay, now I got to add that. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.320 What No, wait, I gotta add. No, there's another one 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.320 I got to add, and uh. It just kept going 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.680 and going and going. After the Cowboys ended up with 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:23.000 signing over the or making it official. Five guys in 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:27.400 free agency and two trades, so actually six. I almost 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.440 forgot Jack. No. Five, Jack Sanbornan was the last. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.600 One to go down last night. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:38.560 Linebacker had been in Chicago, so I'm assuming Matt iberflus 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.320 knew all about him since he made the Bears as 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:48.560 a undrafted free agent out of Wisconsin linebacker, special teams player. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.800 He's like, didn't start with Jack said, I know that's 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.840 how we got going. He's a younger Nick Vigil. Okay, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.400 all right, start where you want. 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.280 All right, let's start with who we lost? 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.920 Okay, yes, well that is not also see ever since 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.440 got his finger on the pulse of the community. 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:07.000 That's right. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.320 We want to know and we can bitch about. Let's start. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.840 How about we start with d Law. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:16.840 Yeah, that one. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:22.120 Second round draft pick in twenty fourteen, after eleven seasons, 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:28.320 here the four time pro bowler headed to the Seattle Seahawks. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:31.640 Aiden dirty and a lot of money, a lot of 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.520 money at him at a three year deal. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:35.440 You see the guarantee on it. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.080 I did not I did last night, And in fact 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.480 I told someone I bet the guarantee. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:41.360 It came. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.800 It was three years, forty two million, and I said, 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:44.960 I bet the guarantee. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.400 I don't know how I. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.960 Landed on this, but I top of my head, I 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.440 said eighteen million. And sure enough, eighteen million guaranteed. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.600 And that's eighteen million for a guy that's starting his 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:56.440 twelfth year. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.920 Well, he's going he's going to be thirty three next month, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.440 and so it's pretty easy to figure out what the guarantee. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.760 Is going to be for a thirty three year old. 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.640 And yeah, it sounds great three years, forty two million 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.040 dollars and hopefully he can play three years. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.240 But he's thirty three years old. 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.000 He'll be thirty three next thirty three. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:16.000 I was out of the league. 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.640 You weren't getting guaranteed players are. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.479 And so if you look at the going rate for 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:28.560 someone of his ilk now coming off of major injury too, 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.400 that in that eighteen to twenty million dollar range would 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.440 be as one year salary. But that's why top of it, right, mean, 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.400 so I look at it as it's probably more of 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:44.159 a year and a half type guarantee and so, but 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.000 good for him. 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.680 No, you know, and he only played four games last year. Yeah, 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.320 he's very effective. It was very effective in those four games. 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.000 And if you remember, if we look back at it, 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.640 he was their best run defender as a defense end 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.200 by the way, for about ten years, and his pressures 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.720 were high. I hated to see that. I just had 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.600 a feeling that somebody was going to price the Cowboys 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:17.640 out of the market of Seattle. Certainly did. But I 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.920 knew he wanted to play. I ran into him here 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.280 three weeks ago something like that, and I said, are 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.440 you healthy, You're ready to go? He goes, yeah, and 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.839 from what I was told, had the Cowboys been in 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.640 anything last year, he would have been able to play 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.920 the last maybe in the month of the season and 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.760 the playoffs if they were in the playoffs. So if 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:50.640 you remember, he had a list frank injury to his 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:59.120 foot and I was told it was like nearly needed surgery, 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.599 but it didn't. And that was a tough one to 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:06.120 come back from. But he when I asked him, he goes, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.479 I'm ready to go. I'm rehabbing. I said, well, do 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.320 you want to? I mean, eleven years you want to play? 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.880 And he goes, I need to. I go, what do 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:20.240 you mean? He goes, I just had another child. He said, 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:25.840 I need health insurance. So I think eighteen million guarantees 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.760 a probably good chunk of health insurance. You know what, 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:33.880 he was such a good guy here, good teammate for 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:40.479 some reason, you know, over the years, and I don't 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.600 know bills around these guys, but at some point, when 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.880 you're around him that long, you sort of bond with 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.480 some guys, and I kind of bonded with it. And 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.600 it started with his rookie year when he fractured his 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:59.320 fifth metatarsal and he missed the first I want to say, 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:06.480 the first ten twelve games his rookie year rehabit, and 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.360 I told him, hey, no problem, I recovered from my 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.080 fifth fractured meditar, so you can do it too. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:14.720 You're young. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.280 And he was just a good guy. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.160 Well, he was a leader in the locker room. Yes, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.600 out about it. When things were going bad. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.920 He was the one that everyone always looked towards to 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.960 say something or get somebody going. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.040 And he would say, a locker room guy. But he's 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.040 a locker room guy that can play right. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.400 He's a locker room guy that makes plays when we 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.520 need him to make plays. So that's what makes the 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.640 loss to me so deep. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:45.160 And if you remember his rookie year, I want to 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:49.560 say it was in the playoff game against Detroit. He 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.840 made a play, recovered the ball and then fumbled it, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.160 and then he made a sack at the end to 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.760 seal the game and that got his career off and running. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.360 Well, dang, we can't just lament on him this whole time. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:08.600 What about its lament on Rico Rinco Dowdell is now 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.800 Carolina Panther. And of course the Cowboys signed Javonte Williams 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:18.480 and I haven't officially announced that yet, but Javonte Williams 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.880 reportedly is head the Cowboys. Uh, and it's very it's 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.920 a very similar contract for both of them. He's got 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.200 Rico's got incentives. They can get it up to double 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.120 the three million dollar base, but. 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:32.680 Just a one year deal. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.839 One year deal for Rico and one year deal for 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.319 Javonte Williams as well. So, and then you look at 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:44.880 Carolina's situation and they've got Cuba Hubbard. They've released Miles 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.600 Sanders obviously, and this was a couple of days ago. 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.679 They released Miles Sanders, so clearly they felt like they 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.000 were going to sign Rico or someone and uh so 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.720 they made that move. They've got Cuba Hubbard, and then 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.120 they've got the second round draft pick Jonathan Brooks out 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.040 of Texas, who suffer his second straight ACL injury last season, 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.839 so he's he's out. So they needed a second running 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:10.000 back to go with Chuba Hubbard. And so it's running 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.000 back by committee there. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:16.040 So which do you think took place first? The Cowboys agreeing. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:22.960 With I'm going to assume because the contracts are so similar. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.160 They probably tol Rico. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.840 This is what we're willing to spend on a running back, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:34.000 veteran running back, and he decided he wanted to test. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.800 The market and then he got the same thing basically. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.320 But in the meantime, the Cowboys had to make their move, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.480 and I assume that's why it happened. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.840 And he's close to home, right, Yeah, he's from Carolina. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:51.560 So so this puts another mark on the Cowboys drafting 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.560 or running back. I would think, right, they were going 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.800 to do that, yes regardless. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.640 Yeah, so they could. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.200 Sign an another veteran running back and they're still drafting 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:02.880 a running back. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.079 At some point draft right exactly. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.680 Javonte Williams is two years younger than Rico o'dowdell. Now 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:14.040 the Javante I loved him the Big Green Notebook, loved 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.720 him coming out of North Carolina. His second year in 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:23.600 twenty twenty two, suffered a knee injury. But he's come 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.280 back the last year or two and he's been I 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.240 don't know if he has the same explosion that he 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:34.240 had coming out of North Carolina, but he's been a 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.600 decent back, you know, to where I don't know that 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:41.120 there's that much difference between Rico dowdell and Javonte Williams. Right, 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.680 And so's and that's why they wind up in the 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.840 same pay range. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:50.600 Actually, it's probably a and I mean, depending on what 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.280 happens in the draft, a good sign for Deuce Vaughn, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.720 then maybe he'll get a little bit more of an 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:02.560 opportunity in Schottenheimer's offense. Then he got this rookie year, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.320 so we'll see where that one goes. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:10.440 Jordan Lewis, there's the next one is Jordan Lewis out 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:10.800 the door. 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.640 And when I wrote my column, it was like the 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:19.079 Cowboys were playing whack a mole. Bullshs up, they hit 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.559 it down, they get somebody, and then another one pops up, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:27.360 and Jordan Lewis was that they couldn't touch that money. No, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:31.800 I heard about that one thirty million, ten million a 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:37.040 year for a thirty year old slot corner. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.240 And somebody who was one of the favorites in the 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.680 locker room. Yes, yes, from what I heard, everyone was 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:47.520 very happy for him, hated to see him go, but 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.199 glad to see someone get as much money as he 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.720 as he got because everyone felt that he deserved it 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.040 considering how much heart that he played with throughout the 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:57.760 entire career. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:57.880 Here. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:04.160 Yeah, he was and just a good soldier. I mean 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:11.960 really and played the slot. Well, so I looked this 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.680 up and he couldn't pass this up, right. He played 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.920 eight years with the Cowboys. He totaled twenty one million 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:21.920 in cash. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.160 He just got twenty He just got. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:32.120 Yeah, right, right, seventeen and he got twenty million guaranteed 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:39.680 twelve point five million his first year. So yeah, So again, 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.480 when teams have money available like that under the cap, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:50.440 they can just wipe you out and it doesn't matter 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.760 if they make a mistake because the amount of money 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:59.200 they have available it absorbs any mistakes you might make. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.200 It's not like, oh god, we just spent twenty million 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.560 and look what happened. You know, It's like, okay, you 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:06.600 take out the eraser. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:07.719 He's in Jacksonville. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.480 Jacksonville, Yes, yes, Jacksonville. 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:12.520 So what are you gonna say? Bill? 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.040 I always going I'm looking it up right now, George, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.120 because I was going to ask you about this, But 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.160 before I ask you about it, I want to find 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.880 exactly what he tweeted out. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.959 So let me hold that thought for just a moment. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:29.200 About Jordan Lewis, it was basically what was asked of 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:32.520 him as a slot corner in this league and playing 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:38.920 man and carrying receivers downfield. He judged more as a 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:44.000 slot corner than what other cornerbacks are last season, what 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:45.959 other cornerbacks were asked to do. 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:49.600 And that we're just talking, that's just talking past defense. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.400 We're not even mentioning the run defense where he really 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:57.120 showed me what a stubborn person he is. 0:13:58.000 --> 0:13:59.400 So is the pause. 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:04.520 He refused to be picked on as the little guy 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.040 in the middle of all that confusion. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.400 So the slot corner are usually in man or can 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:09.640 you zone or both? 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.319 Well, slot corner usually you're going to be in man, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.080 know depending on the team that you play with. So 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.800 you've got to be able to cover not just one 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.760 side of the other, the middle of the field. So 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.720 that means that the wide receiver has two ways to 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.280 go every time he's down the field. So you can't 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.360 play the sidelines like you usually can if you're playing 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.760 a corner back position. At safety, you know you have 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.520 to worry about playing man to man. Safeties don't worry 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.880 about playing man to man, and he has to play 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:47.000 run defense as if he's a linebacker and at someone 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.760 in his size. That's something that I was very impressed 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.080 with because I didn't have to do that until I 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.720 got to the Giants, and then of course that was 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.520 continued Belichick with the Browns. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.840 And I really took a lot of pride. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.680 In the fact that I was able to play that 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.280 slot position after not really playing it at all my 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.080 first nine years in the league. But it's a mentality 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.800 that you have to have, and the referees they kind 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.520 of give you a little leeway inside because they know 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.480 it's a tough job. But I used to try, and 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.120 I used to try and put as much hands on 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.840 those wife hands possible. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:23.840 You got to put this. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.160 You gotta get the hands on them first impede their progress. 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.040 But at the same time, you have to know when 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.960 they're trying to run the ball, So you've got a 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.680 lot of things going on, especially on third down. You 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.200 have to think third and short, what they're gonna do, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.800 third long, what they're gonna do. And Jordan Lewis did 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.800 all of that very well. His anticipation during his entire 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.440 career here, I thought was very impressive. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.960 Say and that gets overlooked and should be a feather 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.320 in Darren Woodson's pro Hall of. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.120 Fame about it. We talked about it all right. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.040 We talk about his ability to play the run in 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:03.440 the slot and lead this franchise in career tackles. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.520 And he's doing it as a He did it as 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.760 a safety, right. He never tried to be a cornerback, 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.840 So to play that slot as a safety when you 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:18.600 have no cornerback history at all, that was pretty impressive. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.680 I can't believe the Cowboys actually asked him to do it. 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.000 We didn't have anyone else besides Darren Woodson that could 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.640 cover a slot and we could put down in the 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.400 back where he could really make things happen. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.080 I was just, you know, that's something that was very unusual. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.240 They fell into it, they really did, because when they 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.440 drafted him, and I know, we're getting off the freeze. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.840 When they drafted him, he had been a highbred linebacker 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.640 at Arizona State and. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.760 He's going from a hybrid linebacker to base our hybrid safety. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.560 And his rookie year, they knew he was going to 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:58.480 have to make the transition to safety, right, and Jimmy said, Okay, 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.680 we're going to have him play special teams and then 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:06.640 ease him into that position, right, And then I don't 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:12.000 the second year did the second year it was like, hey, Campbell, 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.439 we're putting him at safety, and then they realized he 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.440 could play in the nickel. And Jimmy told me after 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.240 that season he goes, you know, or later on he 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.159 told me that one of my biggest mistakes I made 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.879 with Darren Woodson is I didn't start him as a 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.680 rookie because I didn't think he'd be ready, and they 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:32.760 found out differently. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:37.480 Finally, man, Jordan Lewis tweet, I found it tweets. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.600 A lot through all his tweets, I had to find 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.040 the one, which was on January sixth. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.120 Man, oh, he didn't like that Luca trade. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:57.920 On January sixth, he tweeted, No, no other Nickel, No 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:03.840 know this. Other Nichols aren't doing what I'm doing. Secondaries 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.439 aren't doing what we're doing. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:06.080 Period. 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.199 We do not two to one read. We do not 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.240 zone drop. When you turn on the tape, all you 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.000 will see is us vertically carrying from first to fourth down. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.120 And that's how you know. Coxonville noticed somebody. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.159 I don't know how they figure it out because so 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.760 many guys playing the nickel and move around that he's 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.320 the highest paid nickel corner now in the league in history. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.320 Yeah, and so when you think about what he just 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:38.040 wrote about carrying carrying him down the field. That's why 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.960 they were running on them. So, well, you see we're 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.560 playing man to man. Uh huh, we're not playing zone. 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.000 You know, we're playing man to man. And now you 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.800 have to as a as a slot guy, you're really 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.400 a linebacker and you. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:51.800 Have to carry a guy down the field. 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.280 But then you also have to wrestle with this guy 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.240 if they run the ball, which they did a lot 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.040 of these last two years. 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.040 And then you think what you're saying is defensive coordinators 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:05.240 noticed that. Ye like, you go to the ball. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.560 And the guys mickeyside. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.840 We got a small nickel and I only have two 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:14.439 linebackers out there, well. 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.200 And we start run like this is not third down. 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:19.760 We start the game like this. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:24.280 So that's why you're looking at us giving up historically 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:26.560 bad games. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.680 Well, if you think about it the year before when 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.879 they would go into that big nickel, so he's in 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:37.800 the slot, and then they were playing curse curse as 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.760 the linebacker along with whoever was in the middle right, 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:46.240 and then when that guy got hurt, Bell had to 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.000 assume that spot. 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:52.320 And before we go to break, since you mentioned Bell, yes, Mark, 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:56.919 you one of the understated sightings as we focus so 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.280 much on an unrestricted free agents, is the fact that 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:02.680 Marquase Bell, a restricted free agent. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.200 Is back on a three year contract. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.359 And I bring it up because what we saw with 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:11.240 Marquise Bell two years ago with Dan Quinn as his 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.199 defensive coordinator, he saw so much in him that he 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.320 moves him to linebacker and he was basically the leading 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.520 tackler on this team after injuries at the linebacker position, 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:24.600 and then last year with Mike Zimmer as a defensive coordinator, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:26.560 he never got on the field on defense. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.480 Now we got a new defensive coordinator. 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:33.320 And what it tells me is Matt Ibraflu Matt Eberflus 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:36.680 has looked at the tape and decided, you know what, I. 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.159 Can use this guy maybe playing with safety instead of 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:40.840 a linebacker. 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.240 And you got both safeties coming back and Donovan Wilson 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:46.560 and Malie Cooker which you had last year. But it 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.880 looks like that Iberflus has a plan for marku east. 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:53.680 Bell and what they did, and we'll get into that 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:59.560 and the contract structure for Cavante Turpin. Both guys were 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:04.040 restricted did free agents, so Marquis Bell wasn't drafted but 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:08.560 if they tendered him for right of first refusal, it 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:13.000 was going to be three point two million dollars against 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.880 the cap. But signing him to a three year deal 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:23.400 and giving him a signing bonus, now his cap hit 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.719 for the first year is less than that three million 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.080 dollars because they spread out the signings, so they actually 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:36.560 saved money. And we can get into Turpens deal also 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.879 because it got blown up is three years eighteen million, 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.960 but the real numbers will come next. 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:48.760 And Marcus Bell's was blown up to three years nine million. 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.480 But I guarantee is six point two million guarantee, right, yes, 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.639 all right, we continue with more mixed shots. 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:59.359 In just a moment, Cowboys Football and Miller Lyte. What 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.240 a pair can cracks? 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:01.800 A kickoff? 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:06.840 Tailgate's going way past post game Sunday night overtimes followed 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:11.240 by Monday mornings Swager brisk it in the Smoker Miller 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:16.440 Lite and the Creek, America's team playing America's Greatest sport. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.480 Miller Lite the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 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