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Speaker 1: This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: And it's not Monday morning at eleven am, but it

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Speaker 3: kind of sort of is because it's the second day

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Speaker 3: of the new year in the national foot's right, and

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Speaker 3: we have so much to talk about here on mix

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Speaker 3: Shots inside the STBBC podcast studio, and Mickey Spagnola has

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Speaker 3: returned from wherever he went. Everson Walls is in the

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Speaker 3: house as well, and we got a lot of catching

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Speaker 3: up to do.

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Speaker 4: We sure do. Last night, you know, I was here work.

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Speaker 2: Vicky's got his snowbeard going.

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 5: Ever since what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's no sense if you're out skiing to shave

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Speaker 4: excuse me.

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Speaker 5: Wow, So you know I didn't know you were living

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Speaker 5: like that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was just an annual ski trip for you.

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Speaker 2: It is, okay.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you know, way back, I used to go a

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Speaker 4: couple of times. Okay, now I'm limited to one.

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Speaker 2: And the big news is you came back healthy.

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Speaker 4: I did, thank god, not a prop. I don't ski

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Speaker 4: for a gold medal anymore.

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Speaker 5: Okay anymore anymore?

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Speaker 4: Before I did, tried to get better and better, you know.

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Speaker 3: So you timed it so that we could do mix

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Speaker 3: shots after the start of the new league.

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Speaker 2: That's why we'd have more to talk about. We wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be speculating.

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Speaker 4: And I think we probably need more than forty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: We succeeded.

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Speaker 4: Last night. I was working. It was my day to write,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, now I got to add that.

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Speaker 4: What No, wait, I gotta add. No, there's another one

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Speaker 4: I got to add, and uh. It just kept going

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Speaker 4: and going and going. After the Cowboys ended up with

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Speaker 4: signing over the or making it official. Five guys in

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Speaker 4: free agency and two trades, so actually six. I almost

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Speaker 4: forgot Jack. No. Five, Jack Sanbornan was the last.

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Speaker 2: One to go down last night.

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Speaker 4: Linebacker had been in Chicago, so I'm assuming Matt iberflus

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Speaker 4: knew all about him since he made the Bears as

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Speaker 4: a undrafted free agent out of Wisconsin linebacker, special teams player.

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Speaker 4: He's like, didn't start with Jack said, I know that's

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Speaker 4: how we got going. He's a younger Nick Vigil. Okay,

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Speaker 4: all right, start where you want.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's start with who we lost?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, well that is not also see ever since

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Speaker 3: got his finger on the pulse of the community.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 5: We want to know and we can bitch about. Let's start.

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Speaker 2: How about we start with d Law.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that one.

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Speaker 3: Second round draft pick in twenty fourteen, after eleven seasons,

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Speaker 3: here the four time pro bowler headed to the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: Aiden dirty and a lot of money, a lot of

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Speaker 4: money at him at a three year deal.

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Speaker 2: You see the guarantee on it.

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Speaker 3: I did not I did last night, And in fact

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Speaker 3: I told someone I bet the guarantee.

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Speaker 2: It came.

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Speaker 3: It was three years, forty two million, and I said,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I.

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Speaker 3: Landed on this, but I top of my head, I

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Speaker 3: said eighteen million. And sure enough, eighteen million guaranteed.

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Speaker 4: And that's eighteen million for a guy that's starting his

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Speaker 3: Well, he's going he's going to be thirty three next month,

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Speaker 3: and so it's pretty easy to figure out what the guarantee.

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Speaker 2: Is going to be for a thirty three year old.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it sounds great three years, forty two million

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Speaker 5: But he's thirty three years old.

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Speaker 2: He'll be thirty three next thirty three.

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Speaker 5: I was out of the league.

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Speaker 4: You weren't getting guaranteed players are.

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Speaker 3: And so if you look at the going rate for

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Speaker 4: No, you know, and he only played four games last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And if you remember, if we look back at it,

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Speaker 4: out of the market of Seattle. Certainly did. But I

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Speaker 4: three weeks ago something like that, and I said, are

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Speaker 4: you healthy, You're ready to go? He goes, yeah, and

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Speaker 4: from what I was told, had the Cowboys been in

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Speaker 4: you remember, he had a list frank injury to his

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Speaker 4: come back from. But he when I asked him, he goes,

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. I'm rehabbing. I said, well, do

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Speaker 4: you want to? I mean, eleven years you want to play?

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Speaker 4: And he goes, I need to. I go, what do

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Speaker 4: you mean? He goes, I just had another child. He said,

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Speaker 4: a probably good chunk of health insurance. You know what,

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Speaker 4: some reason, you know, over the years, and I don't

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Speaker 4: it started with his rookie year when he fractured his

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Speaker 2: You're young.

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Speaker 4: And he was just a good guy.

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Speaker 5: Well, he was a leader in the locker room. Yes,

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Speaker 6: He was the one that everyone always looked towards to

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Speaker 4: And he would say, a locker room guy. But he's

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Speaker 6: He's a locker room guy that makes plays when we

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Speaker 4: And if you remember his rookie year, I want to

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Speaker 5: Well, dang, we can't just lament on him this whole time.

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Speaker 3: What about its lament on Rico Rinco Dowdell is now

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Speaker 3: Carolina Panther. And of course the Cowboys signed Javonte Williams

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Speaker 3: and I haven't officially announced that yet, but Javonte Williams

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Speaker 3: Rico's got incentives. They can get it up to double

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Speaker 4: Just a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: One year deal for Rico and one year deal for

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Speaker 3: they made that move. They've got Cuba Hubbard, and then

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Speaker 4: So which do you think took place first? The Cowboys agreeing.

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Speaker 3: With I'm going to assume because the contracts are so similar.

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Speaker 2: They probably tol Rico.

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Speaker 3: This is what we're willing to spend on a running back,

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Speaker 2: The market and then he got the same thing basically.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, the Cowboys had to make their move,

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Speaker 2: and I assume that's why it happened.

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Speaker 3: And he's close to home, right, Yeah, he's from Carolina.

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Speaker 4: So so this puts another mark on the Cowboys drafting

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Speaker 4: or running back. I would think, right, they were going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they could.

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Speaker 3: Sign an another veteran running back and they're still drafting

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Speaker 4: At some point draft right exactly.

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Speaker 3: Javonte Williams is two years younger than Rico o'dowdell. Now

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Speaker 3: don't know if he has the same explosion that he

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Speaker 3: there's that much difference between Rico dowdell and Javonte Williams. Right,

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Speaker 3: And so's and that's why they wind up in the

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Speaker 4: Actually, it's probably a and I mean, depending on what

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Speaker 4: happens in the draft, a good sign for Deuce Vaughn,

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Speaker 4: then maybe he'll get a little bit more of an

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Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis, there's the next one is Jordan Lewis out

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Speaker 4: And when I wrote my column, it was like the

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Speaker 4: it down, they get somebody, and then another one pops up,

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Speaker 4: and Jordan Lewis was that they couldn't touch that money. No,

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Speaker 4: I heard about that one thirty million, ten million a

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Speaker 6: And somebody who was one of the favorites in the

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Speaker 6: locker room. Yes, yes, from what I heard, everyone was

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Speaker 6: very happy for him, hated to see him go, but

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Speaker 6: glad to see someone get as much money as he

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Speaker 6: as he got because everyone felt that he deserved it

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Speaker 6: considering how much heart that he played with throughout the

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Speaker 6: entire career.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was and just a good soldier. I mean

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Speaker 4: really and played the slot. Well, so I looked this

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Speaker 4: up and he couldn't pass this up, right. He played

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Speaker 4: eight years with the Cowboys. He totaled twenty one million

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Speaker 5: He just got twenty He just got.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, right, seventeen and he got twenty million guaranteed

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Speaker 4: twelve point five million his first year. So yeah, So again,

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Speaker 4: when teams have money available like that under the cap,

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Speaker 5: Fame about it. We talked about it all right.

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Speaker 6: We didn't have anyone else besides Darren Woodson that could

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Speaker 6: He's going from a hybrid linebacker to base our hybrid safety.

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Speaker 2: Finally, man, Jordan Lewis tweet, I found it tweets.

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Speaker 3: A lot through all his tweets, I had to find

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Speaker 2: Man, oh, he didn't like that Luca trade.

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Speaker 3: On January sixth, he tweeted, No, no other Nickel, No

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Speaker 3: know this. Other Nichols aren't doing what I'm doing. Secondaries

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Speaker 3: aren't doing what we're doing.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 3: We do not two to one read. We do not

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Speaker 5: Have to carry a guy down the field.

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Speaker 6: But then you also have to wrestle with this guy

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Speaker 2: And then you think what you're saying is defensive coordinators

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Speaker 5: And the guys mickeyside.

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Speaker 4: We got a small nickel and I only have two

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Speaker 5: And we start run like this is not third down.

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Speaker 6: So that's why you're looking at us giving up historically

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Speaker 4: Well, if you think about it the year before when

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Speaker 2: Now we got a new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: And what it tells me is Matt Ibraflu Matt Eberflus

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Speaker 6: Can use this guy maybe playing with safety instead of

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Speaker 3: And you got both safeties coming back and Donovan Wilson

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Speaker 3: And Marcus Bell's was blown up to three years nine million.

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Speaker 4: the guy that did it before shut the Bible.

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Speaker 2: He had to find.

444
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: He just opened the Bible. He just opened it and

445
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Speaker 4: started reading whatever age.

446
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 6: Because he knew I'm going to burn in hell because

447
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 6: everybody just said that burning hell.

448
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: You know in college, he's reading the wrong thing.

449
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: And we all started laughing because we knew the idiot

450
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: before who was making who was making fun of herschel

451
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 4: Walker because he went to Georgia with herschel Walker and

452
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: he said he was in one of his classes and

453
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 4: he's like herschel couldn't even read something like that. And

454
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 4: he gets up there and screws up. Wait to show him, buddy, anyway, Okay, go,

455
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Speaker 4: So we moved back to Cavante.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Comante Terpin is next on the list.

457
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Speaker 3: Yes, And it was announced as a three year, eighteen

458
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: million dollar deal for Kmantee.

459
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: And it was supposed to be three years, could be

460
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: up to eight. Everybody out there was like, oh, by god,

461
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 4: they gave him six million dollars a year. Well, the

462
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 4: truth of the matter is it was three years, thirteen

463
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: point five million dollars. He got a three point six

464
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 4: million dollars signing bonus and guaranteed five million dollars. Okay,

465
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 4: So he was a restricted free agent. I think we

466
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 4: talked about this last time that they were going to

467
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: have to tender him at a second round to get

468
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: right of refusal. And if you refuse to get a

469
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: second round pick back, well that was going to cost

470
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 4: five point three million dollars right against the cap. Well,

471
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 4: by doing what they did, they saved two million dollars

472
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: against the salary cap by giving him a bonus. And

473
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 4: they've done this before with special teams. Guys. I can't

474
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: remember the guy's name. It was a defensive back bill

475
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: from Italy by Texas.

476
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: Yes, you said that, Keith Davis.

477
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 4: And they did the same thing with him one year.

478
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 4: Instead of paying him the restricted, they gave him a

479
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: two year deal, paid him a little bit of signing bonus.

480
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 4: You get your money, but it doesn't all count against

481
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: the cap. So basically, in twenty twenty five, his base

482
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 4: salary is one point four million, the pro ration on

483
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 4: his signing bonus one point two million. He's got five

484
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 4: hundred thousand roster bonus meeting games played. So they reduced

485
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 4: his deal to two point five six million and saved

486
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: you know, and it doesn't sound like a lot, right,

487
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 4: but I figured out if you take the Cowboys top

488
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: five salary cap hits for this year, it's one hundred

489
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 4: and twenty one million. So if you save two million dollars,

490
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 4: that's basically two first year players, right, So every million

491
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: dollars counts when you're looking at this stuff.

492
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: Well, and when you look at the details of his contract,

493
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: he really wants to play offense.

494
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: Yes, he's that's where the intent of the incentives we

495
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: want him to play.

496
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Speaker 3: The incentives are one and a half million dollars for

497
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: catches and playoffs in twenty twenty seven and in twenty

498
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: six twenty seven, one and a half. He's got a

499
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: chance to have multiple bonuses up to a million and

500
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: a half dollars basically if he play his offense and

501
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: if this team is successful.

502
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Speaker 2: And they had a great interview.

503
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Speaker 3: I thought we ran it last night that Patrick no

504
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: c Walker did with him after he signed the contract,

505
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: and he was talking about maybe being used more on

506
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 3: offense with the with Schottenheimer.

507
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: Now, and you know Cavante. Cavante talks as fast.

508
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: As he runs, but he's like, he wants to be

509
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: a weapon on offense and he'll play tight end if

510
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 3: he needs to be.

511
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Speaker 2: He needs to play tight end. Whatever. That's what happened,

512
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: world's smallest tight end.

513
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: That's what happens with people from Louisiana or talk fast

514
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: in laws. But you know, from what I heard that

515
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 4: Schottenheimer would like to incorporate him a little more into

516
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: the offense.

517
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Speaker 2: I think he I heard McCarthy was going to do

518
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: that too.

519
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he never did. Right, thirty one catches last year. Yeah,

520
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: that was a career high, like four hundred and some yards,

521
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: I want to right off the top of my head. So, yeah,

522
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: because when he was named the UFL Offensive Player of

523
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: the Year that last year there, Yeah, he was a

524
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: great returner, but it was his wide receiver stuff that

525
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: really got him noted as a kind of all around

526
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 4: football player. So that was a good signing.

527
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Speaker 5: Somebody like Turpin.

528
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Speaker 6: You've got to have a game plan ready for someone

529
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 6: like him, someone with that kind of talent, you want

530
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 6: to make sure that the game plan allows him to

531
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Speaker 6: be used as best as possible. And what I've always

532
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 6: seen with him is offensively, we almost almost made the play.

533
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 6: It was almost the play we needed. It was almost

534
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 6: set up just perfect for us. But you know, one

535
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 6: block wasn't made here, one block wasn't made there. Terpin

536
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 6: is the kind of guy you got to set it

537
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 6: up perfectly to where once the play is called, your

538
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 6: guy that run into perfection, Because he's that guy. If

539
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 6: you run into perfection, it's a guaranteed touchdown. We're not

540
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 6: talking about just getting a first down. He's the guy

541
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 6: that when you do it correctly and you set him

542
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 6: up correctly, you're talking about going for touchdowns. And that's

543
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 6: what I think. He should be more susceptible to running

544
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 6: touchdowns as opposed to just getting first downs. That's what

545
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 6: I want to see from him.

546
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Speaker 4: And here's another thing that gets overlooked. So they bring

547
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: him back. He's a first team All Pro returner, right. Well,

548
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: they also made sure that they and they didn't have

549
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: to spend a lot. They brought back their deep snapper,

550
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 4: Trent Sigg, and then they brought back Brian Anger, and

551
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: I was told there were other teams looking at Briant

552
00:31:53,840 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 4: the right. Yes, and and for anger, you keep that

553
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 4: kicking operation all together, the snapper, the holder, and the kicker, who,

554
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: by the way, led you with one hundred and fifty

555
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: points last year, which.

556
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Speaker 3: It was.

557
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 4: It ties for second most points in a single season

558
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: with Emmitt Smith, who had twenty five touchdowns the twenty

559
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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five season.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Dak Prescott is the oldest player on this

561
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: Cowboys offense. He'll turn thirty two in July. Okay, who's

562
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: the second oldest player on this Cowboys offense? On the offense,

563
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: on the offense, who's on the current roster, who's the

564
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: second oldest player on this offense?

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00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: Well, it's not on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, the offensive line is the oldest is probably Terrence Steele,

567
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: who turns twenty eight in June. It's gets Cavante Turpin. Wow,

568
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: Cavante Turpin turns twenty nine in August.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I was trying to find somebody

570
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: that was thirty, and I'm going no one's thirty.

571
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Speaker 2: He turns twenty nine.

572
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Speaker 4: Nine.

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00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: Yes, And even when you go to defense, you've got

574
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: Donovan Wilson turns thirty or you just turned thirty and

575
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: Malie Cooker turns twenty nine in April. And aside from that, you've.

576
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: Got about Solomon.

577
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: The newly signed Solomon Thomas is twenty nine. He'll turn

578
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Speaker 3: thirty in December.

579
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Speaker 2: He was how young this team is?

580
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I guess happened quickly too. We should spend

581
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: time on him. That was one of Bill's favorites in

582
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: that draft.

583
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: YEP, Solomon Thomas, who is the third pick in the

584
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 3: draft in twenty seventeen.

585
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Speaker 2: Out of Coppell, Texas. He's coming home.

586
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: And I'll go ahead and say this that my son

587
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: in law is from coppel and his family their friends

588
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: with the Thomas family. And so when the Cowboys hired

589
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: Aaron Whitecotton as a defensive line coach, and he was

590
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 3: with the Jets the last four years or whatever, and

591
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: he was before that, he was at San Francisco and

592
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: that was where Solomon was. I texted them and I said,

593
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: I guarantee you Solomon's going to.

594
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: Be a Cowboy.

595
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 5: So I high five side.

596
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 3: When the signing happened. But that was as predictable a

597
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: signing as.

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Speaker 2: You could have.

599
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Speaker 5: You know what.

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00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: I looked up and I've followed him ever since he

601
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: was in high school. But and you talk about high character,

602
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: leader type guy, I mean, this is exactly who you

603
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: want on your football team. But I looked up his

604
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: the last two years and actually tweeted this out. So

605
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 3: let me go find the stats. You know, his number

606
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: of snaps the last two years. He's just under one

607
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: thousand snaps with the Jets with eight sacks I think

608
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen tackles for loss. OsO Digazua or the

609
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: last two years has around fifteen hundred snaps with twelve

610
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: and a half sacks and about the same number of

611
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: tackles for loss. He has more quarterback pressures than Solomon does,

612
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: but the stats the last two years are very similar.

613
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: So my point is, I think Solomon is a great

614
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: compliment to OsO Digazua here and where. You know Osa

615
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: has been getting eight hundred and fifty nine hundred snaps

616
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: a season, well, Solomon's been around five hundred, four fifty

617
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: to five hundred with the Jets and a rotation in

618
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: there or side by side in past situations Solomon has.

619
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Speaker 3: You look at his and this is why he was

620
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: the third pick in the draft out of Stanford. He

621
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: at it we when it came out, he was six

622
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: two two seventy three. He's now listed at two hundred

623
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: ninety five pounds thirty bench reps, strong as an ox

624
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: in there thirty five with a thirty five vertical and

625
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 3: a ten to five broad jut a and his cone

626
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: drill was under seven at six ninety five. And he's

627
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: got the athleticism and so in the right scheme, which

628
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: is Matt Eberflus scheme, and how he wants his lineman

629
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: to play in the backfield basically you know once that right,

630
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: and so I think that and the other thing about Solomon,

631
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: I mean the last couple of years he's been the

632
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year nominee for the Jets.

633
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: The things he does in the community.

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00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 3: As I texted his dad yesterday and said, man, this

635
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: is so great for Solomon and his life after football,

636
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: getting established in the community here in Dallas as a cowboy.

637
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: So anyway, I was just really thrilled for the for

638
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: the family.

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Speaker 5: So you look at that as a really good sign.

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00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: I like it from a yeah, from from what his

641
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: role point, yeah, yeah.

642
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: So was he defensive end, both defensive tackle.

643
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: He was a basically three techniques.

644
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: What he Okay, yeah, defensive, but he's versatile enough he

645
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: can play like did playing on the edge as well.

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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I thought that was so.

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00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: I think I think you're you're looking at I mean

648
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: Chauncey Golston.

649
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: What was his role on this?

650
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, same line, both right, and you know Chauncey. It

651
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: was announced as a three year, nineteen and a half

652
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: million dollar deal with the Giants, so you get Solomon

653
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: at two years up to eight million and so and

654
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 3: so I like, I like the move signing Solomon.

655
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 5: And by the.

656
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 4: Way that they got Osa done on a long term

657
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: deal saved a lot of cap space this year because

658
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: he was going to count if they had to franchise

659
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: them twenty five million doctors.

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00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: All right, we got others to get to.

661
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 3: We need to get this break in and we're back

662
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: with more mixed shots than just a moment.

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Speaker 2: At three o'clock when the new league year.

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Speaker 3: Kicked off yesterday afternoon what's going up on with these trades, Mickey.

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Speaker 4: Well, they gave up very little to try to kind

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Speaker 4: of patch or help patch holes going into the draft.

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Speaker 4: The first one that went down, they traded for cornerback

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Speaker 4: kaiyir Elam from the Buffalo Bills. He was a former

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Speaker 4: first round pick that only started twelve of twenty nine

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Speaker 4: games he played for the Bills, and they weren't going

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Speaker 4: to pick up his fifty year option. He was inactive,

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Speaker 4: he was hurt, and so I don't like your Is

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Speaker 4: he related to Andrew Booth kind of the same, except

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Speaker 4: Booth was a.

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Speaker 2: Second round but Booth was a forty second pick.

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Speaker 5: I just want to like, I don't like his tell

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Speaker 5: this this is.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not saying that they solved their cornerback products.

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Speaker 6: You would definitely not saying I could pick, just not

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Speaker 6: to say that.

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Speaker 4: So he sounds like he's got this guy.

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Speaker 2: One signing.

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Speaker 3: Ever since one signing we have neglected to mention is

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Speaker 3: the fact that Tumadoga is now a Jacksonville Jaguar.

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Speaker 4: What Nikky doesn't sound to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: It sounds it sounds like Tuma's walking back in the door.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we got this is Tuma's replacement for this guy,

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Speaker 5: well this guy.

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Speaker 4: Look, when you get a cornerback who was a former

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Speaker 4: first along with a twenty twenty five sixth round pick

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Speaker 4: and you only had to give up a twenty twenty

733
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Speaker 4: five fifth which was a compensatory pick for the Cowboys,

734
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Speaker 4: and a twenty twenty sixth seventh. Uh, they were just

735
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Speaker 4: looking to basically unload them for something.

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Speaker 5: Well they did unload them.

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Speaker 4: So, which gets us back to when we talked about

738
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Speaker 4: losing Jordan Lewis. Before they made that trade, the list

739
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 4: of linebackers other not named Deron Bland was pretty thin.

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Speaker 4: The list of cornerbacks, cornerbacks, I'm sorry, cornerbacks. Kaylin Carson

741
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Speaker 4: was probably the top of that list. Josh Butler, Heman Hall.

742
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Speaker 3: Josh Butler coming off ACL in November, right, he's not

743
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Speaker 3: gonna be ready for the start of.

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Speaker 4: Kicking Kmen Hall Andrew Booth, got anybody else? No, because

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Speaker 4: you know what Trayvon.

746
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Speaker 3: Troy Pride and Luke Barku Okay.

747
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Speaker 4: Like I said, and there's a very good chance Trayvon

748
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: Diggs not gonna be ready to start to see it.

749
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Speaker 2: And by the way, that sixth round pick that they

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Speaker 2: got in they got a sixth.

751
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Speaker 3: Back right, and so they pedal that moments later to

752
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Speaker 3: Tennessee for Kenneth Murray.

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Speaker 4: Which was another player you liked in that Green Notebook

754
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Speaker 4: kind out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: And let me first say this, I don't like all

756
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Speaker 3: players that come out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I probably you can speak for Missouri. Okay.

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Speaker 3: There are players that come out of Missouri that you

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Speaker 3: have watched for the last three or four years and

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Speaker 3: you're like, no, don't take him right right, okay, And

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Speaker 3: then there are other players you're okay, yeah, like Membo

762
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Speaker 3: would be one you would be on board with.

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Speaker 4: Nick Bolton linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Darius Robinson was another one that you liked, whatever,

765
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Speaker 3: but there have been plenty of others.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, be careful.

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Speaker 2: Well. Kenneth Murray was one of those that I liked

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Speaker 2: of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 5: I thought you were going to say dislike now you

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Speaker 5: was saiding it. No, That's why I said up that way.

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Speaker 3: And he's one that I like coming out. And he

772
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Speaker 3: went to the Chargers as a first un pick twenty

773
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Speaker 3: three overall, and then he wound up signing with Tennessee,

774
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Speaker 3: so he was he was in the twenty twenty draft.

775
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: And so he's been with Tennessee the last couple of

776
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Speaker 3: years and leading tackler for them last year. And what

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Speaker 3: he what When I look at his contract, what he's

778
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Speaker 3: got left on it, it looks like it's one year

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Speaker 3: at seven and a half million. Yes, you're right, but

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Speaker 3: I think it was a necessary You talk about ilicism.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: He has reminded me athletically of going back to College

783
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Speaker 3: of De Maarve on overshell, Right, okay, And so I

784
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Speaker 3: looked up and Kenneth is twenty six.

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Speaker 2: He'll turn twenty seven in November. All right.

786
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: Overshown ran a four foul wit let me find him here.

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Speaker 3: He ran a four five five at the combine. Kenneth

788
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: Murray ran a four five to two overshown at a

789
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Speaker 3: thirty six and a half vertical. Kenneth Murray a thirty

790
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: eight vertical overshown, a ten to six broad jump Murray a.

791
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Speaker 2: Ten to nine broad jump.

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00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 3: So athletically, he's right there with Overshown, but he's got

793
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: a lot more experience.

794
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 4: So why was he playing middle linebacker when he came out?

795
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Speaker 4: He was an outsider.

796
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Speaker 3: He played he played in the middle of ou of course,

797
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Speaker 3: they only had one linebacker field basically in Riley's defenses.

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Speaker 2: But but he was really good.

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Speaker 4: Well I saw this stuff about where he was rated

800
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Speaker 4: and everything. He led the Titans in tactics by the way,

801
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Speaker 4: ninety five so.

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Speaker 3: One and see Overshown is six two twenty so he's

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Speaker 3: twenty pounds.

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Speaker 4: Heavier than so that's why he is by the way,

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Speaker 4: and Overshown was not going to be ready for the

806
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: start of the season. And so I'm sitting there going,

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Speaker 4: if you don't resign Eric Kendricks, you got they.

808
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Speaker 2: Are now that he's Thereic Kendrick replacement, right, and they

809
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Speaker 2: But when.

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Speaker 3: Overshown gets ready and you have Murray and Overshown on

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Speaker 3: the field together, wow, if over Overshow can get back.

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Speaker 4: To play, because it was it was Maris lufoul and

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Speaker 4: it takes nothing away from Leofowl.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, he's right there.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be a starter.

816
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Speaker 3: And by the way, and back by the way, Jack Sanborn,

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Speaker 3: who was our lead story.

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Speaker 4: That's right, bick shots he started buried him.

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Speaker 2: He started three games for Chicago last year.

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Speaker 4: Well he had started. Where did I see that? I

821
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Speaker 4: made a note In twenty twenty three for Eberflus, he

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Speaker 4: started ten of seventeen games.

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Speaker 6: I heard he's very athletic. He is, no, he is

824
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Speaker 6: really elusively.

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Speaker 4: He's a younger replacement for nick Vic because he will

826
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Speaker 4: play special teams too. So these are just little things

827
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Speaker 4: they've done. Everybody wants a splash. But when you gotta

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Speaker 4: be careful, knowing that you're gonna spend money on MICHAEH. Parsons,

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Speaker 4: you know, you gotta kind of patch things together. Another

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Speaker 4: thing on elim which, by the way, you were talking

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Speaker 4: about forties. I think I saw he ran a four

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Speaker 4: three nine coming.

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Speaker 2: Out, and that's why you're a first round draft.

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Speaker 4: Pick, right A corner that can run.

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Speaker 2: So in good size to six', ONE i think got to.

836
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Speaker 4: Hope he can still run.

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Speaker 3: Now having said, That i've talked about guys THAT i

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Speaker 3: like In Solomon thomas And Kenneth.

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Speaker 2: MURRAY i got no idea on This Peyton turner from The.

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Speaker 4: Saints he didn't what.

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Speaker 2: Position he's a defensive. End he's six, six two. Seventy.

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Speaker 3: Uh he's got the traits that you're looking for with

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Speaker 3: like thirty five inch arms.

844
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Speaker 2: And like dila and but he hasn't.

845
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Speaker 3: Played, hey he's been hurt those two days he came

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Speaker 3: out Of.

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Speaker 2: Houston he came out Of, houston and he was hurt

848
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Speaker 2: a lot In.

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Speaker 3: Houston he got drafted in the first round twenty eighth

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Speaker 3: overall by The saints four years ago based on, traits

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Speaker 3: and he hasn't been able to either get on the

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Speaker 3: field or stay on the.

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Speaker 4: Field thirty one games he played in four, years no.

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Speaker 3: Starts so while we invest a couple of couple of

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Speaker 3: sacks last year because he's got, potential and you're you're

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Speaker 3: not investing. Much it's a one, year three million, dollars

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Speaker 3: two million dollar. Guaranteed it's a slightly above the veteran minimum,

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Speaker 3: basically and so you're taking a chance that maybe it'll.

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Speaker 4: Hit state probably looked at your draft notes and, said

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Speaker 4: here's what.

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Speaker 3: We, did exactly got and, that and others felt the same.

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Speaker 3: Way that's why he was a first round draft, pick,

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Speaker 3: right and you hope you tap into that.

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Speaker 6: Pootential undrafted free. AGENT i am appalled at some of the. Signings,

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Speaker 6: man what are we doing in this? CORNERBACK i, MEAN

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Speaker 6: i Remember romo talking about this, GUY i think doing the.

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Speaker 6: Game he was getting toasted up man as a. Cornerback

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Speaker 6: i'm just, man what are we looking? At here are

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Speaker 6: we looking?

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Speaker 5: At?

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Speaker 2: Oh Kaye? Elam?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, YEAH i mean and in, fact that's what, happened

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Speaker 3: like in the playoffs Against Buffalo Christian, benford who beat him,

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Speaker 3: out gets hurt And mahomes immediately picked On.

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Speaker 2: Eli yes he. Did and so that's what you're.

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Speaker 3: Doing and that's, why by the, way that's why we

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Speaker 3: spoke of him in the same terms Of tuma. Coming

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Speaker 3: he's got a lot to prove And peyton has a

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Speaker 3: lot to prove.

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Speaker 4: Also So elam his dad played, Here, Abram abram ABE.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe. Abe elam is old enough to.

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Speaker 4: Well came as a rookie in two thousand and, six

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Speaker 4: so that's twenty twenty seasons, ago, Right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's.

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Speaker 2: True, okay we'll have more on Ab.

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Speaker 4: Elam Ed eddie came, back played one year and then

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Speaker 4: came back in twenty, eleven played one more year and

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Speaker 4: in between played other places too as a.

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Speaker 2: Safety say, there.

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Speaker 3: He's probably listening to you dog his. SON i didn't

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Speaker 3: dog you, guys did know pull the.

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Speaker 4: Tape gotta, go you. Interpreted we'll be.

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Speaker 3: Back monday at eleven am with More Cayer Elam Go.

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