WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Wonderful Christmas Time

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The simply having a wonderful Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>time addition, as the Bengals move on after being the

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<v Speaker 1>Grinch that stole Christmas from Steelers fans and head to

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<v Speaker 1>Houston two days after the holiday to face the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, Dave Lapham joins me to put a bow

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday night shocking win and look ahead to what

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to take to make it two in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>My one on one player interview this week is actually

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<v Speaker 1>with a former player who started on the Bengals nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight Super Bowl team, and in our know the

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<v Speaker 1>post segment, we'll find out what's gone wrong in Houston

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<v Speaker 1>this year from one of the best NFL reporters out there,

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<v Speaker 1>John McLean from the Houston Chronicle. The Bengals Booth Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is presented by bud Light Seltzer. Refresh the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest

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<v Speaker 1>or computer by subscribing on Itune, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify,

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<v Speaker 1>or Podbean. It's the greatest thing since Darlene Love's annual

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas appearance on Late Night with David Letterman for nearly

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<v Speaker 1>every year from nineteen eighty six to twenty fourteen, when

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<v Speaker 1>the show ended, the Great Darlene Love performed her signature

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<v Speaker 1>song Christmas Baby, Please Come Home on David Letterman's final

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<v Speaker 1>late night show each year before Christmas. It was always

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic and helped raise the profile of a nineteen sixties

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<v Speaker 1>singing great who had never received the stardom she deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though the Letterman Show has been off the air

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<v Speaker 1>for nearly six years, the tradition continues as Darlene belts

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<v Speaker 1>out the song each year on the view. You can

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<v Speaker 1>check it out by searching for Darlene Love on YouTube. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to football, beginning with my podcast partner Dave Lapham,

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<v Speaker 1>and we start our chat by discussing Monday's win over

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<v Speaker 1>the suddenly reeling Pittsburgh Steelers. Think about, all right, Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have to bring their A game, Pittsburgh maybe bring their

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<v Speaker 1>C game. And that's what happened. I mean, Pittsburgh did

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<v Speaker 1>not play well, but part of that was because the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals were bringing their A game. I mean, honestly, they suffocated.

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<v Speaker 1>The suffocating, stifling defense was the Bengals, not the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals ran the football, They controlled tempo. They frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steelers by running the football the way they did.

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<v Speaker 1>The quarterback run package a big part of it. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't turn the football over Cincinnati Pittsburgh did. Pittsburgh basically

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<v Speaker 1>flipped the script. They ran the ball down your throat,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't make mistakes, and they played suffocating defense. Check

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<v Speaker 1>check check flipped the script on Pittsburgh win. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about this today. Lap. The Bengals are three

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<v Speaker 1>and one with two games to go. Right now, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got the third pick in next year's draft. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you really go back and look at the early portion

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<v Speaker 1>of the season before Joe Burrow got hurt. In Week one,

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<v Speaker 1>they threw a game winning touchdown pass with seven seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to go. AJ Green got called for a tikie tack

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<v Speaker 1>offensive fast interference. Randy Bullock missed a chip shot field

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<v Speaker 1>goal to four's overtime due to cramping in the calves.

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<v Speaker 1>They're want a wink, yeah, Calfman. Week three, seven point lead,

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<v Speaker 1>less than thirty seconds to go, Carson Wentz scrambles for

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<v Speaker 1>a game tying touchdown. There goes another win. Game ends

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<v Speaker 1>in an overtime tie. Week six, twenty one nothing second

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<v Speaker 1>quarter in Indianapolis, still up by six in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>wound up losing to the Colts. Week seven, three different

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<v Speaker 1>leads in the fourth quarter, including a touchdown pass with

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<v Speaker 1>one oh six to go. They allowed Baker Mayfield to

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<v Speaker 1>beat them with a TD pass of his own with

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<v Speaker 1>eleven seconds left. Week eleven, they go up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the field in Washington Borough. Had twenty one pass completions

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half, they had the lead in the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter when he blew out his knee. That's five

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<v Speaker 1>games that could have been wins, really should have been wins.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those are what just happened type of losses.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals probably should be eight and six with two

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<v Speaker 1>games to go. Yeah, and that's that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>best case if they win all the game, all those games.

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<v Speaker 1>If they only win three of them, they still have

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<v Speaker 1>six wins. I mean, you know, it's it's not as

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<v Speaker 1>desperate or as desolate a seasons as it sounds. And

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<v Speaker 1>in all of those wins, I mean, in the Philadelphia game,

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<v Speaker 1>if Carlos Dunlap had played against the Eagles like he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing for the Seattle Seahawks. Carson Wentz does not score,

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Dunlap makes a play on him. Carlos Dunlap, he

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<v Speaker 1>was in his mode where it's not that he couldn't play,

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't play, and they that whole thing blew up

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<v Speaker 1>and fell apart. But in that game, I can point

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<v Speaker 1>to a handful of plays where it's like, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>just give some kind of effort. And I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to put that loss just on that play with Carlos Dunlap.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you know, there were other players in that

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<v Speaker 1>football game, obviously. But I mean, if in fact, he

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<v Speaker 1>had stepped up to his ability in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>in any of those close games when he was still

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<v Speaker 1>with the team defensively, they'd have handful more wins potentially.

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<v Speaker 1>And again it's not all Carlos Dunlap, obviously, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be ridiculous, that would be you know, small,

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<v Speaker 1>to try to put it on a guy that's not

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<v Speaker 1>even here anymore. But he was a factor while he

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<v Speaker 1>was here. And because honestly, when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>overall effort, it's not that they're not trying. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't playing smart enough football, you know, And you

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<v Speaker 1>can't when you're when you're in the situation that since

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<v Speaker 1>then any Bengals are in, you have very little margin

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<v Speaker 1>for error. You can't put yourself on your schedule so

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<v Speaker 1>often and turning the ball over, turn it over, turn

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<v Speaker 1>it over. I mean we're like a bakery. We're making

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers every Sunday, you know, and giving them to everybody. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the two games that they won, big games that they

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<v Speaker 1>won it at Paul Brown Stadium against two playoff teams

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<v Speaker 1>right now, playoff worthy teams, Tennessee in Pittsburgh. No giveaways,

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<v Speaker 1>no turnovers, if you keep care of the football and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can get it into the fourth quarter with

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win a football game and give your

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<v Speaker 1>defense a chance to do their thing. And they get

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways against Tennessee and they get takeaways against Pittsburgh. So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's that's the formula. But the formula

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<v Speaker 1>has been you know, just basically taken apart too many

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<v Speaker 1>times by giving the football away. It just just can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. That's the Lottom line. So you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>also is great about Monday's victory. It's caused major ajita

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<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh. I mean the sky is falling from eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and zero to eleven and three. They were hoping and

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<v Speaker 1>expecting to clinch the AFC North title on Monday night

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<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati. Well now it's a real question mark whether

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to hold off the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>is one game behind. Pittsburgh has to play the Colts

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<v Speaker 1>this week ten and four, then the Browns in the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season finale. Cleveland plays the Jets this week. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see New York winning back to back games after

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<v Speaker 1>beating the Rams last week. I want to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>something that I heard on Sports Center. This is former

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers defensive back Ryan Clark talking to host Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>Maine after the game on Monday night. All Right, Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>was the last unbeaten team. Now they've done threes three?

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<v Speaker 1>How far in your eyes have they fallen? When you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the whole AFC playoffs which aren't too far away, Kenny,

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<v Speaker 1>who can they beat? You tell me who can they beat?

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<v Speaker 1>Can they beat the Coats? No? Right? Can they beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Tennessee Titans in the playoffs? No? Can they beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Browns. We know they can't beat the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs. We know they can't beat the Buffalo Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>We look at this team play offense. They are playing

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<v Speaker 1>at such a deficit each game. There is no way

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<v Speaker 1>that they'll win. Tonight, they were getting stopped behind the line.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't convert third and one, fourth and one. The

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<v Speaker 1>past game was any fishing. There weren't their drops, whether

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<v Speaker 1>there were the incompletions, the passes that were blown up

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<v Speaker 1>interceptions by the Cincinnati Bengals. They made the Cincinnati Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>look like an All Pro Bowled caliber defense and they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been that all year. And so you think when

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing the Kansas City Chiefs, the Buffalo Bills, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland brown some of the better teams in the AFC,

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<v Speaker 1>that the Pittsburgh Steelers can win. They were eleven and old,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was fool's goal. You're now losing players on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you have injuries on offense, and you have a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that can't seem to make the right decision when that

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<v Speaker 1>is what you're expecting him to do as a Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers fan. As an alum, i Am said, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see them winning the game in the playoffs. So

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<v Speaker 1>to summarize, you're not high on the Pittsburgh Steelers right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Mayne putting the perfect capra on that so is

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<v Speaker 1>a Bengals fan. How great is it to hear the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers and their fans and their former players just absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>depressed for a change after losing a game at Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Brown Stadium? How does it feel? You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>ashen was a great description. And I think rol Aids

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<v Speaker 1>had a record sales week and it wasn't because of

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<v Speaker 1>overeating pre holiday food. It's because of the Steelers. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just trying to lessen that hard burn. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it really is. It is amazing to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh Steelers. Though offensively Dan, they're they're very hard to recognize.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they look nothing like they looked before. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like an impostor out there. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>now people are saying that the Steelers, it's Ben's done there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to extend Ben. They're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask him. He's got forty some odd million dollar cap

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<v Speaker 1>hit next year. What they normally do with them is

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<v Speaker 1>they say Okay, we'll extend you and you know, lessen

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<v Speaker 1>the load. There, ll give you a little bonus money

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<v Speaker 1>and help us give us some cap releaf. And now

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing that. They're not doing that with a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback like that. I mean, I love it. It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>How does it feel? I mean, boy, welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>real world reality in the National football You can suck,

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<v Speaker 1>can it? Honest? Question? Do they win again this year? Cults?

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<v Speaker 1>This week, Brown's the week after that? They have clinched

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<v Speaker 1>to playoff Berth. Not the way you're playing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and not the way they're playing. And you think, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>well they'll fix it. Well, I thought they'd try to

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball against Buffalo. You know, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>try to run the ball against Buffalo. No. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they try to definitely run the ball against the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't do it against Buffalo. No. I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like they can't run the football. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Connor obviously is a factor in the equation. But I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I mean running back is Snell. He was

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<v Speaker 1>far from their worst problem. They had much bigger problems

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<v Speaker 1>than that dude. That dude ran hard. I thought i'd

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<v Speaker 1>take him and my team is running back any day.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't the issue. Wasn't the issue that Snell was

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<v Speaker 1>in the backfield of o Connor. That's a bunch of crap.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's what they're saying, that's that's ridiculous, um. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that three Pro bowlers in that offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>former Pro bowl getting up there in years. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>ain't playing at that level anymore. And again, you know

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about it before. Losson gives Villain a wave

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<v Speaker 1>of fits, six quarterback hits in the quarterback sack, rolling

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<v Speaker 1>a wave of the six fight inch bend at the

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<v Speaker 1>waist tower of nonpower right now. I mean he got

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<v Speaker 1>he got torched around the corner quite a few times

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<v Speaker 1>by Carl Lawson. The Bengals finally beat the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy that led them to victory was Ryan Finley.

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<v Speaker 1>Statistically not exactly dazzling. He passed for eighty nine yards,

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<v Speaker 1>completing seven passes in the game. He did run for

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven yards, including a twenty three yard touchdown run,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, the guy got the job done. Here's wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver T Higgins on Ryan Finley's performance. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he was lay more confident. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>could tell he was running the ball, you know, really good,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know he was just just calm during the

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<v Speaker 1>whole game, and that's what you wanted to use. Quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Finley was moving on that touchdown run. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>know he had those kind of wheels? No? I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know he had those. That surprised me. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. I'm glad it worked out, aren't we all?

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Finleys timed at four point six five and the

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<v Speaker 1>forty yard dash when he was as Stella college student

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<v Speaker 1>at NSE States, So he is faster, I think than

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<v Speaker 1>most people realize. Now, the question is going into this

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<v Speaker 1>week's game against Houston, does he start again or if

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Allen's right knee is okay, is he back in

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<v Speaker 1>the starting lineup? What do you think? I think if

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Allen's right knee is okay, Brandon Allen starts, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they're limited offensively to what they can do

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<v Speaker 1>with Ryan Finley, and I think it worked defensively. They

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<v Speaker 1>allowed it to happen. They allowed it to work if

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<v Speaker 1>the defense wasn't playing the way they were playing, and

0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals had to throw the football more. Might have

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<v Speaker 1>been a little more exposure, but the whole thing, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>every you talk about complimentary football, the ying and yang

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<v Speaker 1>of that football game, the defense lifting up the offense,

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<v Speaker 1>the offense responding, you know, and when the defense gave

0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.000
<v Speaker 1>him opportunity with short fields, the offense capitalized two touchdowns

0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.199
<v Speaker 1>in the field goal, seventeen points on the three takeaways.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the kind of things that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do to pull off an upset like they did. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think two things. I think the Texans have

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<v Speaker 1>to prepare for both quarterbacks. Now they're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend some time on the zone read and all that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of thing. So and also it's going to make

0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:18.320
<v Speaker 1>them be a lot more assignment sound defensively instead of

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<v Speaker 1>backside defensive and crashing and pulling Giovanni Bernard down from behind.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to stay home a little bit, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>when Finley's a quarterback, because they've shown they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, so now they have to spend time in

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for it. They have to make sure their real

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<v Speaker 1>assignment sound, so they might not take as many chance

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<v Speaker 1>as defensively. So your running gab with Giovanni Bernard may

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<v Speaker 1>be better at the point of attack without extra clutter

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<v Speaker 1>because of other things that you have to concern yourself

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<v Speaker 1>with in terms of reads defensively. So there's some positive.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some positive trickle down to the next week when

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<v Speaker 1>an opponent springs something on the league, like the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>did with Finley with a run package Nobody, I mean Pittsburgh.

0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Tomlin was like, I gotta give those guys credit. And

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<v Speaker 1>during the course of the game it evolved. Finley said

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<v Speaker 1>that Zach Taylor during the game the touchdown run of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three yards, they never practiced that that run that

0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Giovanni Bernard ran. They never practiced him pulling it and

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<v Speaker 1>having a read option from the thing. And during the

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<v Speaker 1>course of the game, Zach saw what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, look, if the backside guy crashed and Highsmith crashed,

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<v Speaker 1>chased it down the line, scrims v crashes, pull it

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<v Speaker 1>and run. That was just an adjustment, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting he's getting killed about not making adjustments in

0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.000
<v Speaker 1>game adjustments and all that sort of thing. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge in game adjustment and it led to a

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<v Speaker 1>huge touchdown in the beginning of the fourth quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three yard John and Scamper. That was a big

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<v Speaker 1>difference in the football game. So it's it's very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see how Houston is going to handle it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that Brandon Allen, if healthy, will be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that they'll send out there. So they ran

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<v Speaker 1>a one times last week against the Pittsburgh team that is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, good at stopping the run. This week, they

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<v Speaker 1>faced the Houston team that has given up two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twelve yards to Derrick Henry one thirty eight to

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<v Speaker 1>Clyde Edwards a layer one thirty, Dalvin Cook one twenty six,

0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Nick Chubb one oh nine, James Conner one oh four

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt in the same game where Chubb went for

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<v Speaker 1>one twenty six. They're not stopping anybody. They're not one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty and a half yards a game. They're

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<v Speaker 1>allowing thirty first in the league five yards to carry.

0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.520
<v Speaker 1>They're allowing thirty second in the league. Did last teams

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<v Speaker 1>are efficiently pounding the football on them. The Bengals rush

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<v Speaker 1>for over one hundred and fifty yards against the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and forty some out of them courtesy the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that they are going to feature. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter who the quarterback is, the Bengals are going to

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<v Speaker 1>come out and say to the offensive line, who I

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to return intact to play in this

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<v Speaker 1>football game. I think for the first time they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 1>come off a good performance with an offensive line that

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<v Speaker 1>is physically and mentally intact to try to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the key. You don't just do it once in

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<v Speaker 1>a while, do it again and again and again and

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<v Speaker 1>see if they can control that Houston Texan front seven

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<v Speaker 1>and Giovanni Bernard in company and p Running and everybody

0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.280
<v Speaker 1>involved get after him. You'd after him, run the ball

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<v Speaker 1>down their throat and make it easy for the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and keep the defense off the football field against Watson.

0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Sean Watson's having an incredible year. Number one in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL in yards per pass attempt, number one in yards

0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:35.520
<v Speaker 1>per pass completion. He is second in yardage to Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Bengals head coach Zach Taylor on the Texans starting QB.

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<v Speaker 1>Just watching some of the highlight reels of this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>or he's unbelievable. He's one of the best players in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. There's no question about that. Every play is

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<v Speaker 1>alive until you see someone get him on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>or the ball hits the turf, because he just extends

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of plays that you don't think there's any

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<v Speaker 1>way they can be extended. And and really the other

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<v Speaker 1>person I see that does that as Lamar Jackson's well,

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<v Speaker 1>so all hands on deck for this guy. Tremendous playmaker.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a ton of respect for him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a great challenge for a defense. Named a

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowler earlier this week, third time in his four

0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.560
<v Speaker 1>year NFL career, he took Houston to the playoffs each

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<v Speaker 1>of the last two years, won a playoff game last

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<v Speaker 1>year with a tremendous individual performance against the Buffalo Bills,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the team has kind of collapsed around him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is having an incredible year. He is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a one man show. And Sam Hubbard earlier today

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about how hard it is to get him

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground six two two fifteen, and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>unusual strength for somebody that size. He's not a little quarterback,

0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.120
<v Speaker 1>but he's not a big one either, but he has

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<v Speaker 1>got unbelievable overall body strength and explosive this I've heard

0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:49.960
<v Speaker 1>him referred to as magician, escape artist, fearless, resourceful, creative,

0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.960
<v Speaker 1>He's all of it. I mean, his college coach called

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<v Speaker 1>him Michael Jordan. I mean that's about as high praise

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<v Speaker 1>as you can get. And Dan, he's one of these

0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:03.080
<v Speaker 1>guys where he extends and creates and ultimately the play

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<v Speaker 1>that he comes up with ends up being a better

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<v Speaker 1>play than what was called. You know, He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of guys. And they will live with his sacks.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll live with the forty four sacks because he makes

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<v Speaker 1>so many big plays in doing that. The only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that if he starts throwing a lot of interceptions, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably say time out, let's let's revisit this. But man

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<v Speaker 1>on his career at this point, ninety four touchdowns he's

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<v Speaker 1>accounted for seventy nine of them are touchdown passes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's had touchdowns rushing obviously to twenty seven interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety four touchdowns he's accounted for seventy nine by air

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<v Speaker 1>to just twenty twenty seven interceptions. That ratio they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to live with and let him play the

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<v Speaker 1>way he's playing. I think the Barras would like a

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<v Speaker 1>do over back in the twenty seventeen draft, they trade

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<v Speaker 1>it up to take Mitchell Trubisky number two overall, and

0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.440
<v Speaker 1>later in that draft the Chiefs took Patrick Mahomes. Two

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<v Speaker 1>picks after that, the Texans took to Shaun Watson. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, yeah, I think they'd want to do

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<v Speaker 1>over a redo safe pet right. The Bengals have seen

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to Shaun Watson once before. That was his first NFL start.

0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It was Week two of his rookie year Thursday Night Football,

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and he led Houston to a victory at Paul Brown Stadium.

0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.639
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't individually spectacular. He passed for one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five yards in that game. Do you know Atkins

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<v Speaker 1>sacked him a couple of times, but he made one

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.240
<v Speaker 1>big play and that was enough of forty nine yard

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown run in a thirteen to nine win. That was

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<v Speaker 1>back in the early portion of the twenty seventeen season

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<v Speaker 1>when the Bengals could not score a touchdown. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that touchdown run was are you kidding me, Serpentine? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna get him. I mean he was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was a forty nine yard touchdown run, but he probably

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<v Speaker 1>ran seventy yards back. I mean he was zigzag and

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<v Speaker 1>serpentine is a good word. I mean, it was an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible effort by him. The Texans started the year on

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<v Speaker 1>four and whacked Bill O'Brien and interim coach Romeo Crennell

0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is the oldest head coach in NFL his three he's

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:04.479
<v Speaker 1>seventy three. George Allis and Marv Levy coached until they

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.840
<v Speaker 1>were seventy two. Romeo's first head coaching job was in

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland from two thousand and five to two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens all one Division titles.

0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 1>It's similar to what the Bengals are facing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So here is Crenell on the challenge of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild in a division where the other three teams are loaded. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to compete versus an experience team who have

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<v Speaker 1>pieces in place, who have guys who play well together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And now you're got a young team and

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<v Speaker 1>young talent, and you're trying to figure out what they

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 1>can do well. And but you've got to play the

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<v Speaker 1>games to try to figure that out, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>end up taking a whipping a little bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>while that goes on and so through that education that

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.680
<v Speaker 1>they have to get. You know, like the third year

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:01.680
<v Speaker 1>we were able to win ten games in the third

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<v Speaker 1>year and almost made the playoffs. So it takes time.

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<v Speaker 1>It just won't happen overnight unless you have the pieces

0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.000
<v Speaker 1>in place already and then you can kind of build

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.640
<v Speaker 1>on that. But if you have to add the pieces,

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.119
<v Speaker 1>it takes time to add the pieces you need to

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<v Speaker 1>be competitive. Romeo Cornell does not have a great head

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.400
<v Speaker 1>coaching record, basically two wins for every or two losses

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<v Speaker 1>for every win, thirty two wins sixty one losses, but

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<v Speaker 1>as he mentioned, he did have a ten win season

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<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland back in two thousand and seven and they

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<v Speaker 1>did not go to the playoffs despite going ten and six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one year we went ten and four and didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. It was there, there weren't as many wildcard

0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>teams and the Pittsburgh Steelers went twelve and two, the

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Houston Oilers won eleven and three. We went ten and

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<v Speaker 1>four and stayed home. I mean, what was the loss

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<v Speaker 1>that year that You're like, how did we lose that game?

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Was there one or not? Necessarily? Now I think you know,

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 1>we pretty much pretty much lost it. Lost games that

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:08.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, it wasn't I get to really good teams. Yeah,

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>there was no there was no guarantee. We didn't. We didn't.

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.439
<v Speaker 1>We didn't lose to like the one in eight Browns

0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.080
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. You know, nothing like that took place.

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:20.320
<v Speaker 1>But and that's that's probably you know, Pittsburgh and Tennessee

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:23.119
<v Speaker 1>probably right now scratching their heads of saying, what happened?

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>What happened when we went to Cincinnati? What happened we

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:29.560
<v Speaker 1>did we? Uh? Did we have something that we shouldn't

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>have had in terms of food or drink? What happened

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>up there? So Romeo Cornell's got this record of sorts

0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>oldest head coach in NFL history. It might not last

0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>very long. Pete Carroll's sixty nine years old. It looks

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:45.639
<v Speaker 1>forty five. Yeah, he's a they say young. He is

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:49.240
<v Speaker 1>a young sixty nine years old Romeo Cornell. Watch him walk,

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 1>He looks his age. I mean, he's I understand what

0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>he's going through. I'm pushing that seven oh, that's seven

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 1>oh is coming sooner than I want. And boys, some

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:02.040
<v Speaker 1>some mornings and oil can you got to lubricate man,

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>You got to loop up the joints. Man, it's there.

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.439
<v Speaker 1>It's no joke. Old age is not fun. It's happening

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to me in the fifties. It's awful. Bill Belichick is

0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>sixty eight. So you got a couple of guys and

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Carol and Belichick that could very easily surpass seventy three

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>as head coaches if they choose to. They're obviously both

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.919
<v Speaker 1>still very much at the top of their games, very

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 1>much still there. I mean, and there's a little bit

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 1>of a connection in history all three of them. Romerio

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Cornell and Bill Belichick have a history, and Pete Carroll

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and Bill Belichick do. I mean, it's it's interesting that

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>coaching tree. When the when the really prime fruit falls,

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody picks it up, scoops it up, and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to cherish it for a long time. So the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>are in the market for a new GM and a

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<v Speaker 1>new head coach. They've already started interviewing candidates. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to a kind of a team sponsored podcast

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<v Speaker 1>about the Texans earlier today. They are pumping that up

0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.439
<v Speaker 1>heavily as their kind of sales message to the fans.

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<v Speaker 1>A new day is coming, a new year is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have a new coach. We'll have a new GM.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very interesting to hear a team just like openly

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<v Speaker 1>advertise the fact that you know, we've cleaned house and

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<v Speaker 1>you know the new era is about to begin. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, if I'm a general manager or a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, my biggest asset, everybody wants to work with

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson. If you have that, If you have that

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<v Speaker 1>as a centerpiece, as a starting point, as a foundation piece, man,

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>you've got something. And you know that's the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>Dan With Joe Burrow, you know two things, two boxes

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<v Speaker 1>that as we talk about Zach Taylor and what's gone

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<v Speaker 1>on with the football team, Mike Brown is going to

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<v Speaker 1>think two things and it's going to be pretty early,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty high in the list. Has he lost control of

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the football team? And I think based on the performance

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that he saw going into Pittsburgh, He's going to think

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't really lost control of the football team. He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't really heard. I don't think anything internally that would

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that he's lost control. And what's good for Joe Burrow.

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow couldn't have been more effusive in his praise

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>of Zach Taylor. So if Joe Burrow is going to

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<v Speaker 1>line up right behind Zach Taylor and push and support him,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a big piece. So you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of boxes might be checked in Zach's favorite I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying they're the only boxes, but I'm saying those

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of boxes as you're going through the

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<v Speaker 1>the evaluation process and considering what to do, those are

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 1>significant boxes. Yeah, if Joe Burrow was being honest and

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just being nice in front of the cameras, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have no reason to think that, you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the case. I think he was being a genuine

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<v Speaker 1>That is a pretty important voice to have in your corner,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. I mean, I think he really liked

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<v Speaker 1>working with with all of them. I think he really

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>liked working with Zach, Bryan Callahan, Dan Pitcher. I think

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>he really liked the trio of former quarterbacks and then

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow put in their heads together and coming up

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<v Speaker 1>with game plans and they listened to him and his

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<v Speaker 1>feelings and thoughts and opinions. He really liked it. He

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<v Speaker 1>really liked that whole process. Now, time for this week's

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>one on one player interview, and this week it's a

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>former player. I had a chance to discuss the current

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 1>team with a member of the nineteen eighty eight Super

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Bowl squad who is currently working as an analyst for

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus. When the Bengals celebrated their fiftieth season

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty seventeen, he was named the fortieth best

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>retired player in franchise history. A starting safety on the

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty eight Super Bowl team, the great Solomon Wilcot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always great to speak, Sally. I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>with a guy on this year's team that plays your

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>old position, Jesse Bates. Where does Jesse Bates rank among

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<v Speaker 1>NFL safeties these days? Well, in our database, according to

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus or PF as we had now been

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<v Speaker 1>rebranded now, he ranks among the top safeties in the

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<v Speaker 1>National Football League, particularly when it comes to coverage. Had

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<v Speaker 1>started off the season very well, but still has maintained

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.439
<v Speaker 1>his position among the top five safeties in the National

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Football League. We're talking about guys like Justin Simmons, guys

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like Minca Fitzpatrick, Jamal Adams. I mean, that's pretty good company.

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>And so he continues to make plays on the ball.

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>His ability to help the defense in pass coverage and

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>lock him down receivers tight ends. That's where he really

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>tends to send himself apart. Love to get in, love

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<v Speaker 1>to see him give a few more interceptions, but he

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<v Speaker 1>still comes up with the football time and time again.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's stick with a secondary and another guy having a

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<v Speaker 1>very solid season, Will Jackson. What do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>Will's play? You know, Will, after last year having a

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>down year, this year he's been much better. We love

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>to see him get back to some of the numbers

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 1>we saw him early in his career, particularly when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to locking down the top receivers weekend and week out.

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<v Speaker 1>But still he's a really good cornerback and ranking the

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<v Speaker 1>top half of corners around the National Football League. I

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>still believe he could be a top ten shut down

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 1>corner weekend and week out. We are visiting with Solomon Wilcox.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow, you tweeted the following, Sally,

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<v Speaker 1>good times are coming to the Queen City. So I

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<v Speaker 1>know how you feel about Joe. What did you think

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>of his play his rookie year? You know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>very much impressed, and I think a lot of us

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>who from Afar. We analyzed the game, We critiqued the

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>game to the eighth degree, and we were very much,

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<v Speaker 1>i think pleasantly surprised with the fact that he could

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<v Speaker 1>handle blitz protection, that he was a born leader, that

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<v Speaker 1>every single guy on the football team and in the

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>huddle and in the locker room sort of defers to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that if you take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>the ten games that he played, he had him at

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<v Speaker 1>every single game right up until the end, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>with the exception of maybe the Pittsburgh Steeler in the

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens game. But the fact that you could see

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<v Speaker 1>he tilt the competitive balance in the Bengals favor just

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<v Speaker 1>by being under center and in the huddle and being

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati Bengals quarterback. He averaged about forty one pass

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>attempts per game. I don't know that we've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie throw the ball as much to start a

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<v Speaker 1>career without going to training camp or preseason in the

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>history of our league. So the arrow was pointing up

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Burrow. You referenced his leadership. You played with Boomers,

0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Sias and one of the great leaders in franchise history.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see some of those qualities in Joe very

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 1>much so. And I always said that that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>believe Boomer sias had sat himself apart from all the

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<v Speaker 1>other quarterbacks around the National Football League. He played at

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>a time when there was some great ones. There was Elway,

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<v Speaker 1>there was Marino, there was Montana, But I'd take Boomer Siasen.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what kind of leader he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that wouldn't back down, and he was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that everyone in the locker room with instantly follow

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And you could see that from the moment Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 1>arrived at Paul Brown Stadium, he was the guy in

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the room. Everyone knew he was the guy in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no questions, no doubts about it. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>he stepped onto the football field without a lot of work,

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>without a lot of lead time, no training camp, no preseason,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he was able to dive into the

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>deep end of the pool and still help this team

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>improve in every single facet of the offense. I think

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it tells you what kind of player he can be.

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<v Speaker 1>We're approaching the end of the season. What should the

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Bengals prioritize this offseason? I think you prioritize one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>what's best for Joe Burrow, because what's best for Joe

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Burrow is what's best for the football team. What's best

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>for Joe Burrow is gonna be what's best for the

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>organization because I believe the wins will follow. If you

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<v Speaker 1>improve the offensive line and you protect him. Not only

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 1>does he play better, your running game gets better, your

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>receiver get better. The overall productivity of the offense is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get better. If you go out and get

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>an extra receiver, an extra running back, or extra tackle

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>are tied in. You get better around the quarterback that

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<v Speaker 1>is Joe Burrow, and now you're going to see his

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.120
<v Speaker 1>production spiked to the next level. You also can help

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.959
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback by improving defense, right, so you don't have

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to go out and score five six touchdowns a game,

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>but your defense is getting stops putting Joe Burrow in

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the short field after getting turnovers. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you have to look at it. Everything you do

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<v Speaker 1>is how do we play around Joe Burrow? How do

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<v Speaker 1>we improve around him and help him be better. That's

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>what the coachs did around Peyton Manning when he was

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<v Speaker 1>a former first overall pick and you can see the

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>ten win seasons just begin to stack up. The final

0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>road game of the year is coming up this week

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals head to Houston. The Texans had been

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<v Speaker 1>much better since they made their coaching change. They started

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>out oh and four, they've been close to five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense what are a couple of things the Bengals would

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>need to do to beat Houston in Houston this week? Well,

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>first of all, you got to get pressure on Deshaun Watts.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he is one of the top and most

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>prolific quarterbacks in the National Football League. This guy is

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be a winner, but you have to put

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>pressure on him. You have to contain him in the

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>pocket because he can break containment and he'll run while

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>all over the field. He'll make plays. And then you

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>have to be able to block JJ Watt on the

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>other side. And that's two of the areas where the

0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Bengals have struggled. One is getting pressure on the opposing quarterback.

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>The other is protecting our quarterback from the opponent's best

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher. So you've got to be able to get

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>after Deshaun Watson and you better block JJ Watt. Great

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is always Sally, appreciate the time. Happy holidays and

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us. Dan, Happy holidays to you and

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone with the Cincinnati Bengals. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Those Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now

0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>time for this week's Know the Faux Segment. Last year,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the Houston Texans won their division, beat the Buffalo Bills

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>in the first ground of the playoffs, and led the

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs twenty four nothing in

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the second quarter before getting mahomes and losing that playoff game.

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Now Houston is four and ten and in the market

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>for a new GM and a new head coach. John

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>McLean from the Houston Chronicle joined Lapping Me on the

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Bengals Game Plan Show this week and I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. First of all, go back to the last

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>game the last season against the Titans. The Texans have

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>been behind in double figures six consecutive games, including two

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>playoff games, and when they did it the first four

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>games this year and lost all four, they fired Bill O'Brien. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in fairness to the Texans, they have played the toughest

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>live seen in forty five years of covering the NFL.

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Five teams they played are in first place. The teams

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.879
<v Speaker 1>they played at a combined record of Mike plus forty five.

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like it. But still they have

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 1>not played well. The only player who's been consistently good

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>is Deshaun Watson. He's having the best season of this career.

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>He's on the page to set personal best in every

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>statest dig he leads the league and average per attempt.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Even though they traded DeAndre Hopkins, will Fuller suspended the

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>last five games, Randall Cobbs injured the last five games.

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Don't matter who they put out there with him, he

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<v Speaker 1>continues to play well. Now. One of the things interesting

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 1>about that is their offensive line returned intact. It was

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>in put it last year, and everybody had high hopes

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>for this line coming back. They were ninth and rushing

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>last year, so they were really good. Past protection or

0:34:56.920 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>run blotting was awful, and then in the last three

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>games the past protection has been off. The two Shawn

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<v Speaker 1>Watson creates some sacks because he holds the ball, but

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>he also gets away from a lot of sacks. Kind

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>of like Coodini. It's people are amazed the way he

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.839
<v Speaker 1>seems to have eyes in the back of his head,

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>and that comes from pocket awareness. But he's now been

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>sacked forty times and that's just been a bad habit.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>And they don't have injury excuses up front like they

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>do on their defense, where seven starters six have been

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 1>injured and one Bradley Roby, was suspended. But last year

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>they were nineteen rushing, this year their thirty second. They

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>are one point four yards a game for being the

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>worst rushing team in team history. That would be their

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:46.479
<v Speaker 1>expansion year two thousand and two. And then I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a column today they are on the verge of shattering

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the team record for fewest turnovers forced. They have eight.

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<v Speaker 1>If they don't get to eleven, they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>the second fewest since nineteen eighty. Last year they had

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. Year before, they had twenty nine. Romeo Canell's

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>first season here as defensive coordinator, they had a team

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>record thirty four. How many teams have a defensive linement

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>tide for the team league with intersetting right, that would

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>be J. J. Watt was one. They have three interceptions,

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>also lay Glow and one other thing. This team is

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.320
<v Speaker 1>on the pace to be worst against the run in

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.399
<v Speaker 1>franchise history. So they can't run, they can't stop the run,

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:33.319
<v Speaker 1>they can't force turnovers. Other than that, they're fine. Well

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that's a trifecta. There, can't run, can't stop the runner,

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and can't take take the ball away. Amen, let me

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:45.040
<v Speaker 1>ask you a question about O'Brien. In a two year period,

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>traded Clowney traded Hopkins a year apart. Didn't get a

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>first round pick in either of those trades, which to

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>me is almost mind boggling. Not one first rounder. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the biggest reason he's gone into There are other

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>reasons or what are the reasons that O'Brien is no

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>longer there? Well, that's nothing to do with clowning. You know,

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Clowney had done squats since he was traded from here,

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the guy that got Jacob Martin one of the three players,

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>he's had more sacks than Clowney. Coli'S having more surgery

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>now he's out for the year. But what the Hopkins thing.

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>Watson has played better without Hopkins, and he spread the

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>ball around no matter who they put on the field,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>utilize his tight ends more. But where they miss Hopkins

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>is down inside the ten yard line where they control

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>him the ball. Now, Will Fuller was on a pace

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to have more yards and touchdowns and a better average

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 1>per carry than Hopkins ever had when he got suspended,

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and that should have hurt should have hurt Watson, But

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I think the only place he's been hurt is when

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>they get close to the goal line. Defenses do not

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about them trying to run the ball

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>inside the five yard line. They know it's going to

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>be a pass or it's going to be a Watson

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>RPO or watch and draw. And when you can't run

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 1>inside the five, teams get to play a whole totally

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>different defense, which is the only thing they don't do

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>in their passing game is score more in close to

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the goal line. O' brien was fired because this organization

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>at the point they were owing four, you can put

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 1>up the debut played. You know this. You guys know this.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 1>A coach can scream and yell at people consistently if

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you're winning. But when you scream and yell at other

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 1>coaches and players and media and people in the office

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 1>and you're losing, it goes in one ear and out

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>the other and it teams to infuriate them, and some

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>other than them lash out, and it was just a

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>bad atmosphere over there. People didn't want to come to work.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>The organization was divided. So when they fired him, this

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>says it all. They fired him over for they elevated

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the popular Romeo Mail the interim coach. He was associate

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>head coach, and J. J. Watt put on Twitter a

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>picture of the roof and NRG Stadium open and sunshine

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>shining on the no comment, And then I asked him

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the next day when we had him on the zoom,

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I said, were you insinuating that the sun is shining

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>it NRG Stadium again? And he basically said, you guys

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>can read into it whatever you want, but we knew

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>what that meant. And it was felt like that universally.

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like a dark cloud was lifted. What's O'Brian doing

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>these days? Nobody's heard about him or from him. What's

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he doing it? Do you know anything what he's doing? Yeah,

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>he's on the NFL radio every Friday doing a show

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>with Pat Kirwin and Jim Miller. Okay, I think you.

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he does predictions rundown or what.

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>He walked away with a lot millions of dollars with

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>two years left on his contract, and I think that

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Bill will get another job. He won four divisions and

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>six years one two playoff games. People here are saying, oh, man,

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 1>now to hire Marvin Lewis. I said, Bill o brian

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>won two more playoffs games than he did and won

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>more divisions than he did. No, you don't want Marvin Lewis.

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 1>And even though he has a totally different personality, but

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>O'Brien wants to coach. Some people think you'd be better

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:25.560
<v Speaker 1>in college where you can get away with that kind

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of dictatorship personality. He did a great job at Kent State,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>went into the worst situation in college football history and

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>did a really good job. But his heart was always

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. And people say, well, is he going

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to be an offensive coordinator? To give him another chance

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a head coach. Well, because of his personality,

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.919
<v Speaker 1>he would have to work for a really strong head

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 1>coach like he used to Bill Belichick. But now that

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 1>he has a taste to coaching for going into the

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>seventh year, and I don't know that he wants to

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. A couple more questions are John McClain in

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the Houston Chronicle, you mentioned Marvin Lewis. Houston is already

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>conducting a coaching search for after this season. It came

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>out publicly that the Jim Caldwell got an interview. I

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that was the first. What do you

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>think Houston is looking for? And although you don't sound

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>like you would approve of Marvin Lewis being hired, do

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you think there's a shot that he would get an interview. Well,

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 1>he might get an interview, but they're not good like Jim.

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>The Texans will never say this. I think they're going

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to hire an offensive coordinator, somebody like Eric b Enemy,

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Arthur Smith a Tennessee, or defensive coordinator like Matt Eberklos

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>from Indianapolis or Robert Salo from San Francisco was here

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.880
<v Speaker 1>for six years under Gary qbac. They're not going to

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>give the head coach of files say on personnel like

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>O'Brien had the last two years. They're done with that.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>It's going to go back to the way it was

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>with Charlie Cashley and Doc Capers, Rick Smith and Gary

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Kubiak and Rake Smith and O'Brien for a couple of

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>years before O'Brien was al Is trying to wrestle away

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>personnel from him and he finally got it. So they're

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>interviewing guys that are able to interview right now. Lewis Riddick,

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:15.440
<v Speaker 1>their own personnel director, Matt Bazzard, Jim Caldwell. He can interview,

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's smart to interview as many as

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>you can. Learn as much as you can about the

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>structure of an organization in case you don't know or

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>here good ideas. Check out what are the people think

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>about your players, your schemes. I would interview as many

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>as I can. I don't think you can get too

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>many opinions. And there's competition out there as well. But

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 1>what the Texans have two offers and Sean Watson good receivers,

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>they'll resign Will Fuller. They have two offense and tackles.

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>They need a running back on offense, and then they

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>need an overhaul on defense. Final question, John, will really

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>appreciate your carbon time. It's going to be defense. Defense

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>be a two parter for you. J J. Watt how

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>close is he to one? He was Defensive Player of

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the Year and the linebacker crew. I always thought the

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>linebackers were damned good down there in Houston, you know,

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>led by Merciless, and I know you've had injuries. McKinney,

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought, hell of a player against the run. What's

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 1>happened to the defense overall? And then I guess, more specifically,

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>how was JJ watt plan? Two years ago? They were

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>eleven and five. They gave up eighty two yards a

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>game rushing. They were third in the league against the run.

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.479
<v Speaker 1>They had Clowney playing opposite Watt. Clowney's not a great

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher, but he's great against the run. And he

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>had nine sids a year. He's never had double digits.

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.760
<v Speaker 1>They had Tyring mad to you at safety. They didn't

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>pay him. The Chiefs dead O'Brien got mad, didn't think

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Clowney was serious enough about football, and they weren't going

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to give him one hundred million. They were already playing

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Watt one hundred million. In retrospect, Clowney probably should have

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>taken their seventy five million, because you're never going to

0:43:53.920 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 1>make that. And so DJ reader there no stackle, as

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys know that he to state here for the

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 1>money they used to resign. Whitney merciless. Merciless like most

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>of the players on this defense and a lot on

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>offense have not played as well this year as last

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:15.120
<v Speaker 1>year for whatever reason, and so that's why they need

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the overall of the defense. Why is still their best

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>defensive player. They're good at inside linebacker for next season,

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>they're good at safety. They need at least two corners,

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>two outside linebackers, another nose tackle like DJ Reader, and

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe another defensive end. What is not the pass rusher

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he used to be? He can still get pressured, but

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>without anybody else on their defensive line who's a legitimate

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>NFL starter like Reader and Clowney. He's playing with guys

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that are be really good backups. He gets double teamed

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>on every play, and he's got five sacks, and he's

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>not the pass rusher he was two years ago playing

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:55.440
<v Speaker 1>with those other guys when he had sixteen. You're in

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