1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Bobby Brown. I am someone that everyone 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: knows is very focused on health and wellness. I never 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: seem to know enough. I never seem to be consistent enough. 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes I blame myself because I have a very fun lifestyle. 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: But I'm really interested in functional medicine because I do 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: believe that we're not just what our lab says, and 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: we're not just we're sick. We need an aspirin. So 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: what I'm excited about today talking to Will Cole is 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: that I have read his books. I have seen his 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: work online. He's the guy that is teaching people how 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: to eat plant based mostly vegetables, stand keto, and also 13 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: how to make the right choices and how to feel better. 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: He's the author of two books, Keto Terian and The 15 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: Inflammation Spectrum, and he's also a wildly respected functional medicine expert. 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: He works with brands like Goop and Mind Body Green. 17 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: I asked him to be the wellness expert on just 18 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Bobby dot com, so he's writing for me and I'm 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: just really excited to meet him. I know he's here 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: with his son, and I'm looking forward to the conversation 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: with Dr will Call. Welcome to my podcast, and congratulations 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: on your second book. Thank you so much. I really 23 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: appreciate your kindness and support, and yeah, I'm excited for 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: people to read it. And you are an official contributor 25 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: to my Just Bobby site, so we've done a couple 26 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: of stories already and you just have a lot to teach. 27 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I love writing, so the book 28 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: has been in a labor of love, and I love 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: writing articles even honestly more than books, I think, because 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: they're a short form and so many people read them. 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: But you seem like like one day you popped up 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: on my Instagram, like I've never heard of you, and 33 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: one day you popped up and all of a sudden 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: you were everywhere. I mean, seriously, and how many years 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: have you been out there doing the Willie Cole thing. 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: I've been doing functional medicine for eleven years, so this 37 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: isn't new to me. Like I think, the grind and 38 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a negative. I mean just 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: staying in my lane, staying focused and staying true to 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: what I love and I'm passionate about hasn't changed in 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: eleven years. But you know, it's cool that I can 42 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: connect with people, and because most of my patients are 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: online via webcam, I think it's just the nature of 44 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: my part of my job is talking to people online 45 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: and your writing and speaking about it. Where did you 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: get your background and functional medicine? So my doctorate is 47 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: from Southern California University of Health Sciences, which is an 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: integrative medicine school. There's m d s and dcs and 49 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: nurse practitioners and acupuncturists and oriental medicine doctors. And then 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: my post doctorate education and training is in functional medicine 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and clinical nutrition. That's through the Institute for Functional Medicine 52 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: or i FM. That's the body of doctors and trainers 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: that train the doctors at the fleveland clinics Functional Medicine Center. 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: So tell everyone that's listening who doesn't know what functional 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: medicine is, because it's all I care about. But a 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know what it is. And you're right. 57 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: When we talk about it so much, we forget the 58 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: fact that the majority of the population probably doesn't still know. 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: And that's okay, and that's what I'm here for. So 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: the differences between functional medicine and mainstream medicine, if you 61 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: had to break it down. First thing is we interpret 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: labs using it thinner reference range, So anybody that's listening 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: will know, hey, when I get my labs done, i'll 64 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: have my number and then i'll have this reference range. Well, 65 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: we get that reference range from a statistical bell curve 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: average of people who go to labs. People that go 67 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: to labs are not the healthiest bunch of people. So 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that have these symptoms, they 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: don't feel well, they go to their doctor and these 70 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: the doctor runs the basic tests and the labs come 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: back normal. Yeah, you're fine, You're just depressed. He's an antidepressant, 72 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: or you're just stressed out. You're just getting older, you 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: just need to lose weight. All these well intentioned reasons, 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: but they're basically saying, you're a lot like the other 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: people with health problems that we're comparing you too. So 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: in functional medicine, we're taking people with health problems out 77 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: of the reference range of where optimal vibrant wellness is. 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: That's the functional range where your body is functioning the best. 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: So that's the first thing we do differently, and that 80 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: gives clues as to why somebody is feeling the way 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: that they do, and then we run more comprehensive labs, 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: typically so things like microbiome issues like underlying gut problems 83 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: or toxicity, or chronic infections or hormonal imbalances, whatever is 84 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: relevant to the health history. We want to get to 85 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: the root cause. And then we realize we're all different 86 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: and there's not a cookie cutter, one size fits all 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: approach to getting well and applies to food, it applies 88 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: to natural medicines, applies to just about everything in life. 89 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: It's bio individuality. But how did you figure this out? 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: Did you grow up this way? I? Did you know? 91 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: My training and functional medicine is all like the formal 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: training and really understanding the research and science and how 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: to apply this in someone's life. But as far as 94 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: food is medicine and all like, the wellness space predates 95 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: functional medicine. For me, I grew up in a home 96 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: that was interested in well this before it was cool. 97 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm from the countryside outside of Pittsburgh, not the mecca 98 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: of of wellness. My dad was like one of those 99 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: bodybuilders in the eighties. I thought it was normal for 100 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: people's Dad's to be like looped up with like baby 101 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: oil and like turquoise petos. But he was interested in 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: food and wellness, and that was the genesis of of 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: my perspective on food and the difference between what I 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: was eating at home and what my friends were eating 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: at school, and that evolved over over the years until 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: I was formally trained in this space. Growing up, what 107 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: was a normal dinner that your mom would put on 108 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: the table, It was vegetables like wild rice. In the 109 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, that willness space was a little bit different. 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: It was that crunchy granola earth, the whole foods plant 111 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: based approach with some clean proteins and things. That's basically 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: what I was eating. And like raw dairy, they go 113 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: and get the raw dairy, which is kind of controversial, 114 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: I guess today, but it's making a comeback, and there's 115 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: different institutions that talk about the benefits of these types 116 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: of foods that people would have eat for thousands of years. 117 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: As my mother would open up a can of vegetables 118 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and she'd cook it, and I would get punished because 119 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: I wasn't eating the vegetables because they tasted disgusting. Canned vegetables, aren't. 120 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: They're terrible. I don't. I don't remember the last time 121 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: I had a can to anything. You know, I grew 122 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: up a different decade than you did, so things have 123 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: changed a lot. But I'm kind of a self obsessed 124 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: health fanatic, always searching for how can you feel better? 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: How can you do this? And you know your books. 126 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: Your first book is called Keto Tian. Now, keto is basically, 127 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: you eat fat and it burns fat. Yes, that's counterintuitive, right, 128 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: it is counterintuitive, but yeah, but you can't be having 129 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: a piece of toast with it. No. There are keto 130 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: breads that are maybe with almond flour and cilium husk 131 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: and things like that. I mean, there's some good brands 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: out there like Unbun. I have no connection to them financially, 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: but they're a good brand that I know. Other' based 134 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: out of Canada, actually in Toronto, and have had them 135 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: in a few restauran ons in Toronto and Vancouver. But 136 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: you can buy them here in the States too. It's 137 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: called Unbunn. But Keto Terian is in a conventional ketogenic diet. 138 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: It's a mostly plant based approach, which is too seemingly 139 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: polar opposite views of foods, but as a show in Ketoterian, 140 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: it's actually not. And yes, the ketogenic diet is a 141 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: high fat, moderate protein, low carb diet. But what you 142 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: put into that paradigm or the as umbrellas of high fat, 143 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: moderate protein, low carb is up to you. It's the 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: way they advocated in keto Terian is they have go keto, 145 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: but let's do it in a clean way. And I'm 146 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: not advocating everyone to be in ketosi is forever and ever. 147 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Either we talk about cyclical approach or doing it seasonally 148 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: or doing it when you want to reset, Like a 149 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: lot of women do a cyclical keto Terian approach, but 150 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: they'll increase their carbs around their period or their ovulation. 151 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: They'll increased feet, potatoes, and fruits. But then they go 152 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: back into ketosis their other days of the month and 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: they feel fantastic. It helps boost their brain and they 154 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: helps lower inflammation levels, helps with their fat burning, all 155 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the things that a lot of people are struggling with today. 156 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: And your new book is called the Inflammation Spectrum, So 157 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: how is that different than the first book. I talk 158 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: about the inflammation spectrum, this concept that inflammation exists on 159 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: a continuum like from mild symptoms like mild background fatigue, 160 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: low grade anxiety, digestive problems, to the other end of 161 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: the inflammation spectrum, which is autoimmune conditions or diabetes or 162 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: whatever else you're thinking of when it comes to health problems, 163 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: and then everything in between on that continuum. But I 164 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: mentioned it in passing because beta hydroxy better rate is 165 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: the key tone that your body produces and keytosis, it's 166 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: an anti inflammatory, it's a natural weight lower inflammation. So 167 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: I talked about this concept of the inflammation spectrum, and 168 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: like a paragraph of keyto Terian, I was able to 169 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: in the inflammation spectrum to have a deep dive into 170 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: this concept, to have a whole book amount of research 171 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: and data and practical tips for people to start to 172 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: lower inflammation beyond the ketogenic diet. So the inflammation spectrum 173 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: isn't a ketogenic book. So you could be healthy and 174 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: not be keyto No. Absolutely, yeah, the goal of keto 175 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: how I see it as a tool to gain metabolic flexibility. 176 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: Most people are always in sugar burning mode. They're there. 177 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: It's like kindling on a fire, even if you're eating 178 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: healthy foods. If it's breaking it on into sugar. It's 179 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: like kindling on the fire, and you to keep putting 180 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: kindling on all day longer, you're gonna get hungry and 181 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: irritable and beyond a blood sugar roller coaster. So all 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: ketogenic diet is and the way I advocated to do 183 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: it is like more of a keto terian, mostly plant 184 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: centric approach. And that could be pest Caytian keto, vegetarian keto, 185 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: or Viking keto. And what about grass fed meats? And 186 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm not against either. Yeah, I eat grass fed beef. 187 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: It's just not the central part of my diet, but 188 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: I'll have it. I want people to find that grace 189 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: and lightness to wellness and not be overly dogmatic. And 190 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: that's really the heart of the inflammation spectrum to it's 191 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: finding food peace and not being overly obsessed with all 192 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: this content on content on content when it comes to health, 193 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: it can be confusion for people. But what if you're 194 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: eating mostly that way and you still feel inflamed. That's 195 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: most of my patients. They're very well read people. They've 196 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: had to reach church on their own because doctors will 197 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: say there's nothing wrong with you, even though they know 198 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: there's something wrong with them, or they're told it looks autoimmune, 199 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: but we don't really know for me at that point. 200 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: We mentioned this in the Inflammation Spectrum because at the 201 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: back of the book it's like, Okay, maybe you feel 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: better and fifty percent better, and that's what I see. 203 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Oftentimes patients will say, yeah, I'm better than I was, 204 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: but I'm definitely not where I need to be. It's 205 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: way better than I would be if I wasn't doing 206 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: all these things, but I know there's something keeping me back. 207 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: And that's when a functional medicine doctor comes in because 208 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: we can run labs and pinpoint things that's beyond food, 209 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: and we talk a little bit about it in the book. 210 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: We talk about the viral infections, We talked about the 211 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: underlying gut problems. You talk about the mold toxicities or 212 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: heavy metal problems. That is, yes, food will help that, 213 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: but oftentimes with those sort of more complicated cases, are 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: these multiple chemical sensitivities, these histamine intolerances or oxalate problems. 215 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: That's beyond the basics. At that point you have to 216 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: lean into a bit more with advanced protocols, and that's 217 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: what functional medicine is here for. And you don't think 218 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: it's too much information making people completely neurotic. It is 219 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: there is too much information for people to receive it. 220 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Oftentimes there's too much information for the vessel that contains it, 221 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: and that creates anxiety and stress about something that certainly 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: I that's not why I'm writing when I'm writing, but 223 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: it's definitely something we need to talk about because at 224 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: some point when we have all this content and our fingertips, 225 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: the blogs and the books and the podcast and all 226 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: that stuff, which is great, and I'm part of that conversation, 227 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: but at certain point people need to know and use 228 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: self control to say, I need to pause this and 229 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: keep it simple and only take in and digest what 230 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: you can digest, because stressing about eating healthy isn't good 231 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: for your health. You know. Sometimes it's helpful to to 232 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: have a team that understands what you're going through too, 233 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: because oftentimes, again my patients are know what's up, but 234 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: their disillusion is what's right for them. So to have 235 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: someone like shed light on them and like hold their 236 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: hand proverbially speaking sometimes literally, just say it's gonna be okay. 237 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: We've seen this before. Let's walk you through this. Because 238 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: we are in a stage and age right now of 239 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: diet disillusionment and food fatigue on a mental, emotional, spiritual level. No, 240 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: I think it's so interesting, you know, I do. I 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: find the whole movement interesting. But most of this country 242 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: would never have a clue, and they also wouldn't have 243 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: the resources or finances to do these things. So I 244 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: think probably a lot of your patients are probably you know, 245 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: people that are educated, you know, have money. What do 246 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: people in the rest of the country do. Yeah, you 247 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: would think that most of my patients were like a 248 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: certain way, because I think that's the stigma that functional 249 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: medicine has around it, and I definitely, without a doubt, 250 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: agree that we need to improve access and affordability. But 251 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: on the flip side, if you look at my one 252 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: on one patients, my top patient based like career wise 253 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: or nurses teachers, they have a common level of spreadsheets 254 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: because we run labs and we can track data, and 255 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: we have a lot of engineers to like, working class 256 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: people that were crazy hours that just want to get better, 257 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: So you would think they'd be like one percent er elites, 258 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: but they're actually not. Most of my patients are. But 259 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: with that said, even those people there are people that 260 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: still we need to make it even more accessible and 261 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: more affordable. We aligned recently an online group class to 262 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: lower our overheads, to make it more affordable and accessible. 263 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Because I can talk to a hundred people and versus 264 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: doing a hundred separate hours, I can get all in 265 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: one class, so it's not the same as one on 266 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: one care, but it still is at least giving them 267 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: some support which can make powerful changes in someone's life. 268 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: I agree with you, we need to make it more affordable, 269 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: we need to make more accessible. But I think what 270 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: you're doing in the supplement space is amazing. Otherwise it's 271 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: like a waste land of junk stuff that you're providing 272 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: quality things, and we need to do more, like all 273 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: of us collectively, to democratize this information and the support 274 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: and the tools like supplements into their life because it's 275 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: it's needed, right And I'm very sensitive to you know, 276 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: to that subject because the products originally launched in Walmart, 277 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: and that's a very different consumer that you know, used 278 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: to buy my cosmetics at Bergdorf Goodman. When I've my 279 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: ninth book was called Beauty from the Inside Out. I 280 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: gave the book away to the first hundred people that 281 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: came in the store and they just didn't even know 282 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: what to do with it. And I just said, just 283 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: take one tip, do one thing, Swap your soda for water, 284 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: like you know, do those little things. And I think that, 285 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, the more that people will start to make 286 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: those changes. I love what Walmart is doing. I mean, 287 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: the largest supplier of organic foods in the United States 288 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: that I know of, other places like Costco. So I mean, 289 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm from Pittsburgh. I'm from a working clast town, and 290 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm used to making this practical. And it's so interesting 291 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: that most of my patients are online. They're not from 292 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: big cities. Oftentimes they're from small towns. They don't have 293 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: access to functional medicine. So I'm used to making this 294 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: practical one realistic. So talked to about intermittent fast thing. 295 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: I know you are a fan of it. I am, 296 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: and you do it every day. I do it during 297 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: the work week, so normally Monday through Friday. I'm doing 298 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: it not because it's like a big deal or I'm like, 299 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: this is my program. I just eat when i'm hungry. 300 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm normally not hungry in the mornings because I'm more 301 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: fat adapted and I'll break my faster on noon, so 302 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: I do time restricted feeding, typically do twelve pm to 303 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: six pm. I'll get my calories in and making sure 304 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: that I'm eating enough twelve to six Yeah. Yeah, um, 305 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: you know that doesn't That's definitely not a New York 306 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: dinner time. We're not saying, Okay, honey, let's five o'clock, 307 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: let's go out to dinner. Yeah. No, it's it's a 308 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: tighter window, and sometimes I'll push it to seven. The 309 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: whole point is, let's find a rhythm and balance for 310 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: your body. And it's not being again obsessive about this. 311 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: It's just I feel like we need a garbled body 312 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: a break from always eating food, which requires a lot 313 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: of energy. So it's just saying a little break. Other 314 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: ideas would be like doing eight am to six pm window. 315 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: That just goes back to not eating too late, but 316 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: you have all day long to eat and allowing your 317 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: body too fast throughout the night until you break the 318 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: fast at breakfast eight am or around there. It's an 319 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: amazing way to enhance the top a g or Sellu 320 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: recycling of great anti aging notchanism. So I like I 321 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: sit on earl grade tea in the morning. Earl Grade 322 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: tea is black tea with bergamont, which Bergamont has been 323 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: shown in the scientific literature to enhance cellular recycling. You 324 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: don't trying coffee? I do occasionally, it's not like my 325 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: first go to. And what's the worst thing you eat? 326 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Probably too much sugar. So I do a cyclical keyto 327 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: terry and approach. But it'll be a healthier version of it. 328 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: It'll be like coconut sugar, but still it's still sugar. 329 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: And I am a big peanut butter addict, so like 330 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: eats way too much peanut butter. Nothing with peanut butter. 331 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: I hear there is something wrong with peanut butter. It's 332 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: like almond butter is better peanut butters inflammatory? Is that 333 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: not true? Peanut butter gets shamed a lot, especially in 334 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: the paleo world. Peanuts are higher in what are called aflatoxins. 335 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: They're like potential like mold toxins that are peanuts are 336 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: basically moldy. I get Valencia peanuts, it's organic, it's lower mold. 337 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: It's reputable brands, but generally conventional peanuts are higher in 338 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: these toxins. And it's a legume which can be higher 339 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: in luctance that some people have problems with it but 340 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: not everybody, which is back to my point of the 341 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: inflammation and spectrum. It's finding out what your body loves. 342 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: My body loves peanut butter a little bit too muce. 343 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: My body loves vodka. I don't know. I I do tetos, Okay, 344 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: there's a better vodka for me. I don't know. But 345 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: what's how does alcohol fit on being healthy? And my 346 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: body doesn't love vodka, my mind does. I'll take that back. 347 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: I say any inflammation spectrum to go off of it 348 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: during the inflammation calming time because we wouldn't give the 349 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: lover extra support there. But people can bring it back 350 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: in and I actually talk about which alcohol is to 351 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: focus on which ones to bring it back in first. 352 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: The amount to test back in definitely can be used 353 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: in small amounts and if someone has a healthy relationship 354 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: with it. And Vodkast specifically because you're not adding like 355 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: other sugars and things like that, because it's distilled, it's 356 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: not having the same gluten as beer. I call beer 357 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: gluten juice. It's more problematic for people who have gluten problems. 358 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: But even though it comes from wheat. Oftentimes certain vodkas 359 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: can come from wheat distill processed removes that because I 360 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: guess tetos is cool. Yes, I mean, I've tried Keen vodka. 361 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: You know I've tried. I've tried them all. I don't 362 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: care if because Tito's is very well respected, is that 363 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: inflammatory alcohol? Though? It's going to be impacting the liver, 364 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: And it definitely could raise inflammation because you're slowing down 365 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: liver function to some degree and downregulating the liver's ability 366 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: to do other jobs. So yes, in a way, it 367 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: could raise inflammation levels. But there's different mechanisms to take 368 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: in the consideration. Because when you talk about insulin and 369 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: blood sugar, that's going to raise inflammation. There are some 370 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: people that drink alcohol moderately responsibly that they actually see 371 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: lower instant levels and lower blood sugar levels. I'm not 372 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: saying alcohols and anti inflammatory, but I'm saying it's just 373 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: not it's we don't want to oversupply it too much. 374 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't think that low sugar alcohol is like the 375 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: worst thing you could do. And what about your kids? 376 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: How do they deal and do they ever come home 377 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: from there? You probably don't know if they're like eating 378 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: the drunk at their friend's house, you know, shoving ho 379 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: hoes in their mom. They're my kids are pretty funny. 380 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: They'll they're honest with me and they'll say like, hey, 381 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: I had this fine. I don't want to shame anybody, 382 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: at least of all my kids. Like my kids eat 383 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: gluten free because they both don't feel well when they 384 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: have gluten, so they kind of know they're not celiac. 385 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: They just have kind of that non celia gluten sensitivity. 386 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I think everyone does. I think everybody has it to 387 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: some degree. Yeah, some people can get away with it 388 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: in certain forms, in certain amounts. When I go to Europe, 389 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: it's amazing. I have no inflammation. I eat all the bread, 390 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: I want, fries, pasta, and I come home five pounds. 391 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, so you have to look 392 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: at is it the gluten or is it the hybridization 393 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: or the spraying and the facade. I think there's a 394 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: lot of variables to consider. But I see that a 395 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: lot patients going on vacation and they'll say, hey, in Europe, 396 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I had the things I would never have 397 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: at home, and I feel fantastic. Then I also think 398 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's that they're less stressed when they're on vacation. 399 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: I feel worse when I eat gluten free. I don't 400 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: know what. I don't know if it's a potato starch 401 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: or what's in it. Just because it's gluten free doesn't 402 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: necessarily mean healthier for you. But you're right, it's just 403 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: because it's gluten free doesn't necessarily mean we should read labels. 404 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: We should look at what's going on. Talk to me 405 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: about dairy. Dairy is in the inflammation spectrum. I put 406 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: dairy as one of the core four of foods to 407 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: avoid for a while and then bring it back in 408 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: and see what your body loves and hates. Many people 409 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: tolerate dairy, many people have no problem with dairy, and 410 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: some people do. So it's not a blanket statement, and 411 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: I apply that to almost every food, but the problem 412 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: with dairy dairy protein caseine can be a problem for 413 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: some people. Now, there are different types of subtypes of caseine. 414 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: There's beta A one case scene and beta A two. 415 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: The more ancient, like cows that would have been around 416 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: for thousands and thousands of years, have what's called beta 417 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: A two caseine, which our genetics haven't changed in about 418 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: ten thousand years, so the human race would have eaten 419 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: and been exposed to the Beta A two case scene 420 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: for the majority of human existence people that had cows, 421 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: but the very short period of time of human existence, 422 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: we now have a new case scene called Beta A 423 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: one case. So this not just with dairy protein, but 424 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: food supply and toxins and all of this mismatch between 425 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: genetics and epigenetics, or our genome, our DNA, and our 426 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: environment is really at the heart of a lot of 427 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: this research that's coming out and looking at why autoimmunities 428 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: on the rise, why are different chronic inflammatory problems on 429 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: the rise. So the problem may not be the dairy itself, 430 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: but what we've done to the cow livestock feed in 431 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: the United States. You mentioned going to Europe and getting 432 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: the nice sweet supply. People can get these A two 433 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: dairies that are in parts of Europe, they're in Africa, 434 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: they're in Australia, New Zealand and India, and people are 435 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: bringing in the cows to the United States. And that's 436 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: why you'll see more and more A to milk. Not 437 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: even heard of A two. So this is a thing. 438 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: It's growing and they want you to know because it 439 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: can probably charge you more for the a to milk 440 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: for the time being until supply demand kicks in and 441 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: makes it more democratized. But the moment they want you 442 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: to know because they're paying to get these cows out 443 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: here in the United States and then I'll like your 444 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: average cow. But they have this more of this ancient 445 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: case scene that is more in alignment with our microbiomes, 446 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: more alignment with our DNA. So there's more of a 447 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: synergy and symmetry amongst us in our food, which is 448 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: what we should be getting to more of as a 449 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: human race, because if we started doing that, we see 450 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: far less health problems, far less inflammatory problems. So if you, 451 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, are someone that have always done carbs and 452 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: you want to see what your body is like more keto, Yeah, 453 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: so I way, I recommend it in both Keto Terian 454 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: and the inflammation spectrum is to go at least four 455 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: weeks for like the lower inflammatory problems. And I give 456 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: them a quiz in the book so people can figure 457 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: out what you took. The quiz fled, but no shame there. 458 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: But honestly, for most people, and I said this in 459 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: keyto Terian and the inflammation spectrum go eight weeks, because 460 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: that's going to really give your body enough time. And 461 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm talking to people with more chronic health problems, but 462 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: I'm even seeing this just across the board, and at 463 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: that point they can get a semblance of what their 464 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: biochemistry can do and give their body even a chance 465 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: to get metabolic flexibility. What has taken years to get 466 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: to where you're at today, or the person that's listening, 467 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna take more than a couple of days or 468 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: a week to move in the right direction. Now you 469 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: will start feeling better. I'm not saying that you're waiting 470 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: eight weeks to see anything, but you have to be 471 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: trending in the right direction and give your body that 472 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: time to start repairing and balancing and calming down. So 473 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: give me a day. Give me like you know people 474 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: that are listening, okay, they want to just kind of 475 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: before they even run out and by the book, give 476 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: them a day, like what are they having for breakfast, lunch, dinner, 477 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: and snack typical day. I will typically would fast in 478 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: the morning. If you want to have like a CHS. 479 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: C pudding bowl, you could have that in the morning. 480 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: You could add some hemp protein. You could have some 481 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: sauteid greens and like a grass fed like sausage. You 482 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: could have a smoothie with like coconut milk or almond 483 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: milk and em cyt oil and berries and lower fructoast, 484 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: higher healthy fat smoothie. And you shouldn't be agreed to lunch. Yes, 485 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: you're right. So if you are starving and irritable and hungry, 486 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: you're not probably not eating enough. And that's why I 487 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: think intament fastings should be leaned into, because sometimes people 488 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: do too much too soon because they think it's it's 489 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: the thing they should be doing, but they're doing too 490 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: much for their body, with their bodies ready for So 491 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: have this be a sense of grace and not just 492 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: be being aggressive for the sake of it. When you're fasting. 493 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: And then lunch, I'll have like a pesto zuta bowl, 494 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: like with zucchini noodles, get a spiralizer. They sell them 495 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: in like plastic things a Trader Joe's and Whole Foods, 496 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: and then there's alvocado oil dressing in there. And these 497 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: are recipes in the book. That's not a very filling 498 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: meal though, is it. Well, yeah, it's a big bowl. 499 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: And then you can add protein to that. You can 500 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: add some wild caught fish, you could do that. If 501 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: you eat meat, you can have organic chicken or a 502 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: grass fed beef like burger. If you didn't have a 503 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: smoothie in the morning, smoothie at lunch, that's quite filling 504 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: as well. You can have snacks if you want to 505 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: have some snacks, that's fine, especially at the beginning. Maybe 506 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: some toasted nuts. You can get some like spicy nuts. 507 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: You get some sweet nuts in there, and there's different 508 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: recipes for that if you're having those. And then for dinner, 509 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: some sort of wild cat fish, some saft taped vegetables, 510 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: some baked vegetables like Brussels sprouts. I love those. Um 511 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: sulfur rich vegetables help with the methylation which is needed 512 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: for healthy hormones and detox pathways. And then I love 513 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: these avocado fries in the book Avocado fries. Yes, they're 514 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: like sliced avocados and they're breaded with almond flower. Who 515 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: makes that for you? Your wife for you? Well, I 516 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: make them in my life, but my wife's definitely better 517 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: cooked than I. And then this chipotle a Ali dressing. 518 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 1: I got that recipe idea because I was at a 519 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: healthy event and they had them as this hotel. They 520 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: were amazing, and that's why I wanted to, like, we 521 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: need avocado fries. At the book I figured out way 522 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: to do it was so tasty. So I'm guessing in 523 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: your opinion, calories don't count. Calories matter, but they're secondary 524 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: to the quality of foods. Your body is more of 525 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: a you know, a chemistry lab, less of a calculator, 526 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: so to speak. You should be eating into your full 527 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: you should eat when you're hungry, so calories are a 528 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: part of that, but it's not the totality of it. 529 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating and I think your books are 530 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: amazing and for people that are listening, which books should 531 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: they buy first? I appreciate that. Yeah, So I would 532 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: say a good beginner book is the Inflammation Spectrum because 533 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: it looks at food as a whole. It's not honing 534 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: down on a certain way of eating. It's not specific 535 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: food paradigm. It's just looking at food and non food things. 536 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: So it's not just about food that that bring inflammation up. 537 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: There's stress and social disconnection and social media addiction and 538 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: toxins and the lack of sleep that we talk about too. 539 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: So it's a real big functional medicine perspective and how 540 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: to get your life in check. Keto Terian is someone 541 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: can lean into it after that if somebody is already 542 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: in the wellness game for a while, both would be good. 543 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: But Keto Terian maybe a good fresh perspective on the 544 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: ketogenic diet. And how else could people find you? There's 545 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: um Now you are on the group podcast right with Shamus. Yeah, 546 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: it's group Fellas Groups Amazing and they asked Chamus and 547 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: I to be the first spin off for the podcast 548 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: We've launched in the spring. It's like really cool. We 549 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: talked about life transformations and we'll talk about yours. So 550 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: where else could people reach you? Besides everything? Is that 551 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: doctor will Cole dot com. You can go to doctor 552 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: will Coal dot com. You can take the quizzits in 553 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: the book. We offer a free webcam health evaluation if 554 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: people want to talk and see a functional medicines right 555 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: for them or consult with me right for them, or 556 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: the group class and on at doctor Will Cole on 557 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook and all that stuff. Okay, then I 558 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: just want to end with a speed round. What's the 559 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: last thing you ate? I had a grass fed burger 560 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: salad at Belcampo at Hudson Yards. What's the last exercise 561 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: you did? My peloton bike two days ago. What's the 562 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: last thing you bought other than that? Other than food? Oh? Man, 563 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: I can't even think about it. I've been intentionally not 564 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: spending money on like material things. You're such a hippie. 565 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: I know. I'm like such a hippie. I'm like giving 566 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: things away. Yeah, so I'm like I have too much 567 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: clothes and stuff I can't even tell you. Probably was 568 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: some non toxic maybe deodorant or something. I got a 569 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: target something that was probably last thing. And how do 570 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: you fall asleep at night? I have these essential oil 571 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: sprays that I spray on my face on the pillow 572 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: that's like lavender and orange peel and things like that. Yeah. 573 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: I just talked to my wife. We talked about the day. 574 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: And what's your last book you read? The last book 575 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: I read was Simon Cynic. We had him on for 576 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: the group Fellas. It's called Infinite Games. It's really fascinating read. 577 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: And what's your coffee? Order? Coffee, I'll just get black. 578 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: So then what's your take on bulletproof coffee. Are you 579 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: still fasting If you're having bulletproof coffee, it is because 580 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: it's not stimulating insulin and you meaning you're not having 581 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: carbs and you're just having healthy fats, which by all 582 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: means I think Dave ass Bray is on the amazing 583 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: things because he's giving people an alternative fuel source when 584 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: there's so much in sugar burning mode. This is a 585 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: good alternative because they're getting their body healthy fats, which 586 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: they need, their brain needs, their metabolism needs it, their 587 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: immune system needs it. But from a functional medicine like 588 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: geeky standpoint and things that I look at on labs, 589 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: sometimes people are having those and they're putting the butter 590 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: in it, and they their bodies actually don't do well 591 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: long term. From like a liquid fat standpoint, the coconut 592 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: oil and the butter can be a problem for some people. Again, 593 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: some people do fantastic with it, but some people don't. 594 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: Some people have intestinal promeability or leaky gut syndrome problems, 595 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: and that can create something called endotoxemia. Basically, the bacteria 596 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: toxins LPs like of polysac rides can create inflammation. So 597 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: they can be eating this healthy thing, but it's still 598 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: driving inflammation levels up. Without a doubt. It's better than 599 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: the standard American breakfast, But just because something is better 600 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean it's optimal for you. Well, I could 601 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: talk to you all day, and we will definitely take 602 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: this off offline because you're gonna have to tell me 603 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: why I flunked your test. We'll talk. Thank you so 604 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: much for being my guests, being on my podcast, and yeah, 605 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: a pleasure to meet you. Thank you. What's your son's name, Solomon? 606 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: Are you paying attention your Thanks for coming and sitting there. 607 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: I know it's boring. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, 608 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever 609 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.