1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Coronavirus. Hysteria isn't going anywhere. That's just one of my 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: predictions for twenty twenty one that I discuss on the 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: next episode of Rob Smith is Problematic. Why don't I 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: think the hysteria is going anywhere? Because all the power 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: grabs and government control that come along with it have 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: become a new religion for the left. As for politics 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: at Joe Biden presidency and the mainstream media, well, I've 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: got a lot to say about what you can expect 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Tune in and buckle up. Listen 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: to Rob Smith Is Problematic every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: this is new due to the virus. I'm recording from home, 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: so you may notice a difference in audio quality on 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: this episode of New World. I want to leap way 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: out of all the everyday stuff, the petty gossip and 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: whatever it is that people chat about on the various 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: talk shows, and I want to talk about the twenties. 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, when I was the twenties of course referred 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: to the nineteen twenties, and that was sort of a 20 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: roaring decade when amazing things were happening, and Americans were 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: doing all sorts of stuff. Lindbergh was flying across the 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: Atlantic coaching by himself and becoming an American hero. Prohibition 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: was in which meant that, just like with masks today, 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: many Americans were finding a way to get around the rules. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: And it was a time when women were beginning to 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: be truly liberated, coming out of World War One at 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: a time of substantial economic wealth. So looking back on 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: the twenties, then later on historians started arguing about what 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: it really meant. And I want to talk now about 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: the new twenties, the two thousand and twenties. I think 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: every once in a while I ought to step from 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: the immediate mess and all of the gossip and all 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: the little things that we focus on and try to 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: get a sense of what's out there. I describe it 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: as looking at a fog bank and trying to see, 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, what's that shape in the fog. Is it 37 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: a mountain? Is it a whale along the ocean? Is 38 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: it an airplane? What is it? You kind of see, 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: but you don't see. And I think that there's some 40 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: big things and we don't get around to them because 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: our current news media and our current political structure really 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: doesn't lend itself to this kind of a discussion. But 43 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I want to start overseas and then go to technology 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: and then come back here at home. Overseas, I think 45 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: the twenties are going to be the time that China 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: truly emerges as a worldwide figure, directly competing with US 47 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: and having alliances start to shape, so that you'll see 48 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: some countries that decide their futures with China as why. 49 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: I think particularly true in Africa and maybe to a 50 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: slightly lesser extent in Latin America. I wouldn't be at 51 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: all surprised in the twenties to see Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, 52 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: and potentially several other countries decide that they are really 53 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: part of an anti American Chinese alliance that will have 54 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: replaced the collapsing Russian alliance, as the Russians just economically 55 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: can't compete because they don't have any money and they 56 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: don't have an economy that produces anything. I think the 57 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: biggest single story of the twenties will be the rise 58 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: of China and the countervailing response of other countries, countries 59 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: like India, for example, which will strengthen itself directly in 60 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: response to the Chinese emergence. I think the second big 61 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: question people talk about black swans the idea of an 62 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: event occurring that nobody had thought about, So, in a sense, 63 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the rise of COVID. Certainly, if you were Donald Trump 64 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: and you were at the peak of economic growth and 65 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: everything was perfect in February, you'd have to say that 66 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: March brought a black swan in the form of COVID. 67 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: And I think they have to look for those kind 68 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: of events. And I think that you have to say, 69 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: with North Korea having nuclear weapons, with Iran getting nuclear weapons, 70 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: with Pakistan having nuclear weapons as well as India, what 71 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: are the dangers or the potential for some kind of 72 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: event to occur That it'sis the result of having so 73 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: many different variables moving simultaneously that you get a crisis 74 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: of crises, and certainly that could break out. You could 75 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: imagine stumbing into a huge fight between Israel and the 76 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Arabs on one side and I Ran on the other side. 77 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: You could imagine either Russia or China deciding to side 78 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: with Iran. A lot of different variables. I think you 79 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: also have to look at you think of the twenties 80 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: as a decade long process. What happens with the steady 81 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: increase in Islamist behavior when you look, for example, in Nigeria, 82 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: a place that we normally don't pay much attention to, 83 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: although it's the most heavily populated country in Africa and 84 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: where recently several hundred young boys were kidnapped by a 85 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: Islamist force Bokh, which is a part of a worldwide 86 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: coalition of Islamists. What happens there the danger, for example 87 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: sub satur and Africa being dislocated in a way that 88 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: you have a wave not one or two million people 89 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: as in Syria, but thirty or forty million people migrating 90 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: towards Europe on a scale that the European just can't 91 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: cope with. Also, when you look at the twenties as 92 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: a long decade, and you go back a decade and 93 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: you look at how much France has decayed instability to 94 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: confront Islam, and you look at the recent beheadings of 95 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: several people, for example, or the televised killing of a 96 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: policewoman in her home by an Islamist who was then 97 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: killed by the police. The French have a crisis. We 98 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: see no evidence that the trend line is going to change. 99 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: So you would have to say that a decade from now, 100 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: France will probably be more Islamist than Christian, that the 101 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: government will be intimidated by the Islamist faction, and that 102 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: that will have effects across all of Europe. In terms 103 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: of Europe as a whole, I think the economic repercussions 104 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: of a government strategy of closing down and destroying businesses 105 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: will be felt at least for the first half of 106 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: the decade. People underestimate how easily governments can destroy economies 107 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: and how hard it is to restart those economies. So 108 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: some people who are looking naively out there and thinking, oh, 109 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: we'll be back to normal by next June, I can 110 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: just tell you, talking from Italy, that is not possible. 111 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: And in fact, given the radio which we have not 112 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: solved these problems, I'm not sure when tourism comes back. 113 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: If tourism doesn't come back, hotels and restaurants collapse, the 114 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Italian economy collapses, the Greek economy collapses. They're huge forces 115 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: out there. The other side of that is fascinating parallel 116 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: that's brought on by technology, which is the countries that 117 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: were really really important, because the Saudi Arabia being the 118 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: best example, Russia being the second best example. The combination 119 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: of oil and natural gas increases, combined with a really 120 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: dramatic breakthrough technologically in having new kinds of technologies, particularly 121 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: solar power, which is beginning to drop in price to 122 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: where it's going to be genuinely competitive. All of these 123 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: things are coming together. And if the current movement towards 124 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: a small, very safe nuclear reactor system totally different from 125 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: the Ziet nuclear reactors of the last seventy years. But 126 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: if we start getting a genuinely small, totally safe nuclear 127 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: reactor system, you're going to see huge decline in the 128 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: importance of oil and gas. Natural gas will begin to 129 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: be important as a petrochemical feed for things like plastics, 130 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: but the result will be very substantial dislocations in centers 131 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: of wealth. So all of these things that were going 132 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: on simultaneously. I was always struck by a comment of 133 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Bill Gates that you get less done in one year 134 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: and more done in five years than you expect, And 135 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I think the same thing happens here. Trend lines that 136 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: look tiny in one or two year perspectives, if they 137 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: keep building can look gigantic in ten years. You see 138 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: that this trend line pattern, say in cell phones, go 139 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: back and look a very few years ago at what 140 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: cell phones were like, how limited they were, how few 141 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: things they did. And now look at the worldwide pattern 142 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: of smartphones where you can watch your movie on the 143 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: internet versually anywhere in the planet. These things are all 144 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: just remarkable changes. Well, the same thing is going to 145 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: be happening over the next decade. It's going to happen 146 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: in terms of the ability to use computing, it's going 147 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: to happen in terms of the ability to generate energy. 148 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: It's going to happen in medicine, or they're going to 149 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: be all sorts of breakthroughs, and each of these will 150 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: have its own added complexity. Right now, we're learning the 151 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: hard way because of COVID that we've actually build in 152 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: a system that allows us to work and talk from 153 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: almost anywhere. So with things like zoom or go to 154 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: meeting or FaceTime, we just have amazing capabilities that thirty 155 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: years ago would have seemed like science fiction. All of 156 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: that is going to accelerate, and all of it's going 157 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: to interact with other patterns. You're also going to see 158 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: a revolution in military capabilities is the rise of drones 159 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: in huge numbers, very small drones with artificial intelligence. And 160 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: you're presently going to see, certainly the Chinese and probably 161 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: the United States and maybe Russia the old entire fleets 162 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: of drones, so that one of the challenges, for example, 163 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: of Taiwan could easily be twenty thousand drones coming across 164 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: and straight simultaneously, and then how do you deal with them? 165 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: What is your anti tiny drone strategy? Twenty is finally 166 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: over and a new year is here, but the coronavirus 167 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: pandemic is still ugoing and millions of Americans are hurting economically. 168 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: This week on Allow with Giano Caldwell, I dig into 169 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: how to best move forward, strengthen our economy and put 170 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: more money in your pocket with Charles payin the host 171 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: of Making Money with Charles Paying on the Fox Business Network. 172 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Charles is a best selling author and the founder and 173 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: CEO of Wall Street Strategies and independent stock mark research firm. 174 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Charles and I also discuss what to expect in twenty 175 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: twenty one, China's impact on our economy and its inspiring 176 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: story of growing up in poverty, and becoming one of 177 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: the leading voices on cable and television. Listen to Outlaw 178 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: with Giano CALLBLA every Monday in the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 179 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast. Artificial intelligence is going 180 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: to get more and more powerful. It is already true 181 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: today that with the right artificial intelligence you can learn 182 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: more about a patient from the artificial intelligence than from 183 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: the doctor. That you can have better surgery with robotics 184 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: and artificial intelligence than with a human doctor. All these 185 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: things are going to accelerate. I personally believe you're going 186 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: to see both breakthroughs and things like Alzheimer's because I 187 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: think the amount of computational power is getting big enough 188 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: we're going to see real breakthroughs in understanding how the 189 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: human brain works. And it's important to remember it's the 190 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: combination of biology and computing which enabled us to have 191 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: such dramatic breakthroughs with the COVID vaccines. Twenty thirty forty 192 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: years ago. We couldn't have done it physically. Now we 193 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: both have models of DNA, we have systems of analysis, 194 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: we have ability to run all sorts of models. And 195 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: this is true by the way, where aircraft, where you 196 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: now have literally a wind tunnel and a computer, and 197 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: the computer can, with stunning accuras tell you how different 198 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: designs will work, and you can do years of work 199 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: in an afternoon. Because of this kind of computational power. 200 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: All these things are going to come together and they're 201 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: going to change winners and losers. We're going to be 202 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: in a world where relatively small countries, countries the size 203 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: of Iran or Venezuela, could have a military capability much 204 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: more dangerous than anything you would have thought of twenty 205 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: or thirty years ago. All of that will have an effect. 206 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: If you look out for ten years, it's almost certain 207 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: that the gray world will be bigger than ever. And 208 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: by gray world, I mean all of the illegal criminal 209 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: behaviors that are the underside of the global economy, human trafficking, 210 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: which is a huge industry. People don't realize that there 211 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: are at least million people a year sold into slavery 212 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: somewhere around the world, about ninety percent of the female, 213 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: almost all of it involving prostitution. People don't realize it. 214 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: In addition to that, you have, of course drugs, but 215 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: in addition to those who have illegal weapons, and then 216 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: you have a legal transportation, who gets paid to bring 217 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: your illegal product, whether it's a human being or a 218 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: drug or a weapon, across the border. And then you 219 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: have a legal finance because all of that is happening simultaneously, 220 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's something you have to really think about. 221 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: All in my mind, all of these things are going 222 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: to be going on at once, and we're going to 223 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: find that there'll be entire countries, one of them has 224 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: probably Venezuela, which essentially will be gray world countries. That is, 225 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: virtually everything in the country will be illegal, but will 226 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: be legal in terms of the local government, which will 227 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: protect the illegal. And we're not really prepared to think 228 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: through living in that kind of world. Meanwhile, back in 229 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: the United States, we face a core crisis which I 230 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: think will be unavoidable. And I'll give you a couple examples. 231 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: We've built an edifice of enormously expensive colleges and universities, 232 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: and we've built them in such a way that it 233 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: requires two distortions. One distortion is a student loan program 234 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: in which the future basically gets indebted to the present, 235 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: and in which middle class and upper middle class students 236 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: get to borrow lots of money to stay in college 237 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: longer while taking fewer courses. As the college is raised 238 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: their costs because the professors have a natural desire to 239 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: have the highest possible salary the smallest possible amount of work, 240 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: and the administrators would like to have the maximum number 241 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: of administrators. And so as long as the government's willing 242 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: to subsidize it, they're just going to keep raising tuition 243 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: and fees and other things. And this has been a 244 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: cycle we've been in now for thirty years, and which 245 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: is clearly moving towards bankruptcy if you look at over 246 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: a trillion dollars in student loan debt. At the same time, 247 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: many of our best universities have built a very large 248 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: part of their portfolio on foreign students. In fact, there 249 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: are probably forty or fifty universities that absolutely have to 250 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: have Chinese students in order to be able to meet budget. Now, 251 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: as you look at all this, as college gets more 252 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: expensive and less necessary, because more companies are beginning to 253 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: say to people, look, you know, if you can do 254 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the job, just come to work for me. You don't 255 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: necessarily to have a degree. We'll get you the skills. 256 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: We'll use online learning, we use apprenticeships, will use a 257 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: lot of different ways so that you can go ahead 258 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: and start earning a living. Right now, we have far 259 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: too many people paying far too much money to go 260 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: to schools from which they will get no economic advantage. 261 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: You could go out and become a welder, go to 262 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: work in the oil and gas industry, make one hundred 263 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: and sixty thousand dollars a year, do all of it, 264 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: just two years of education, and at the end of 265 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: five years you're so much better off than your sister 266 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: or a brother or a cousin who borrowed all that money, 267 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: got a degree for a program and will pay them 268 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: sixty thousand dollars a year, and now has this huge 269 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: debt hanging over. And so I think you're going to 270 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: see a real transition towards people who just decide to 271 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: go and earn a living and acquire the skills they need. 272 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: As the degrees become less and less important, so the 273 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: universities are going to find it harder to fill up 274 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: with Americans. And you see this, by the way, if 275 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: you watch advertising. When I land on a lot of airports, 276 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: there are three or four big ads for local universities 277 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: because they're desperate to attract students. At the same time, 278 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: if they suddenly don't get foreign students because they charge 279 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: foreign students as a rule, more than they charge American students. 280 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: And so I think you're going to see an enormous 281 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: cash crunch in higher education as part of the next decade. Lastly, 282 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: there's going to be an enormous fight between the teachers' 283 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: unions and government employee unions in general and the need 284 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: to rationalize the system and make it effective when you 285 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: learn how much we're paying, and of course this will 286 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: be highlighted by the consequence of COVID and the numbers 287 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: of billions and billions of dollars we paid to teach 288 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: to not show up and the number of students who 289 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: did not get an education. And as it sinks in 290 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: that we can't possibly compete with China with the current 291 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: education system, and we will have an enormous national security 292 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: pressure to profoundly reform the various unionized schools, and the 293 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: unions will fight it. This will be one of the 294 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: most bitter, intense fights of the twenties, and I think 295 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: the fate of America may depend on winning that fight. 296 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: So as you look at all this, I just kind 297 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: of wanted to get you to be thinking about all 298 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: these things. And finally, I just want to say that 299 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I was an optimist when President Trump announced We're going 300 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: to go to the Moon and to Mars, and I 301 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: was an optimist when Vice President Pence gave an amazing 302 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: speech at Huntsville on getting there. I have gradually become 303 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: a pessimist, and I believe the odds now are that 304 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: the Chinese will get there before us, unless we're saved 305 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: by people like Elon Musk and Jeff Basis on a 306 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: purely private basis, because I think that NASA's bureaucracy, combined 307 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: with congressional pork barrel, has crippled the ability of the 308 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: United States to spend money in a rational way, and 309 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 1: I don't think that it's very likely that we're going 310 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: to see that continue. So I think that what you're 311 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: going to find is that the momentum that's there, that's real, 312 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: that would be amazing, that should happen, may well get undercut. 313 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: And if it does get undercut, you should expect to 314 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: see the Chinese become the dominant force in space, and 315 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: that would have both psychological and diplomatic implications, as well 316 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: as military implications. So I think the decade of twenties 317 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: is going to be the decade of huge challenges, the 318 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: decade of huge choices, and the decade of either America 319 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: once again reinventing itself and becoming the leading entrepreneurial, dynamic 320 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: country in the world, or the decade in which the 321 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: Americans decided it was just all too hard and they 322 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: basically relaxed in a long period of living off their pensions, 323 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: golfing and hoping that the Chinese didn't notice the too sin. 324 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: So it's going to be exciting, and they'll be reporting 325 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: about it regularly and trying to get people to think 326 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: longer than just the next thirty second conversation on talk radio. 327 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: News World is produced by Gingwish three sixty and iHeartMedia. 328 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: Our executive producers Debbie Myers, our producer is Garnsey Sloan, 329 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. 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