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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan zegura.

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Speaker 2: Us are live on a Friday edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: A blustery Friday edition of the program merely Bo the

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Speaker 2: great ze little zip up.

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Speaker 3: Zip Yeah, so our business for locking in little business.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I said that the one day,

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Speaker 3: but then you seem to like it.

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Speaker 2: I've done a couple of months that was good. Be

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Speaker 2: careful out their kids. The the wind is whipping. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's high wind advisories.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna have a heavy car load to the ground.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 2: We we're fine, but again I'm I'm worried about the

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Speaker 2: greater good and the the the tractor trailer semi trucks

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Speaker 2: are really. Be careful out there, kids, be very very careful.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. I set against, set against, go go back

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Speaker 3: to bow singles, set against the orange backdrop, you're because

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Speaker 3: that's a shark fin gray almost looks like a brown.

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Speaker 2: It almost does look like a seal, like a seal brown,

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Speaker 2: like a little.

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Speaker 3: All right, that looks all right, even us that does

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Speaker 3: look good.

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Speaker 2: Such a soft just really do a great job, botch

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Speaker 2: stars because they did some four the one too busy.

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Speaker 5: Too busy, too busy.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine you just had that in black with

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Speaker 3: just whichever brownie you like better, just sitting.

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Speaker 6: Right there there.

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Speaker 3: Great, that's the way to do it. Or I like

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Speaker 3: the one that's got a little bit of the higher neck.

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Speaker 3: I think that's that's the I was gonna say, like,

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Speaker 3: but it's something like something like, yeah, yeah, that one,

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Speaker 3: the full down, Yeah, the camo and the that's a

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Speaker 3: nice one. Yeah, that's I have. I have my the

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Speaker 3: grove one that well aware, and I have the sneak one.

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Speaker 2: I'm well aware, well aware of the various various we have.

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Speaker 2: Oh I should you mentioned the grove and the snead.

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Speaker 2: Some real possibilities for US boys down in the central

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Speaker 2: Ohio area that we can discuss. Oh that perked the

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Speaker 2: give give yous in the middle of some scrolling paying

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Speaker 2: attention to MAC basketball, all of a sudden, some opportunities.

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Speaker 4: Basketball going on.

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Speaker 2: Is your tea still in it is your team still

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Speaker 2: in it?

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Speaker 6: Go straight to hell?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guess what Miami is not either?

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Speaker 3: No, they're not, says the wind is nuts blowing everywhere cars.

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Speaker 3: Miss Kate, be safe, to be safe.

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Speaker 2: You're a mother of the prince who was promised for

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Speaker 2: God's sake, Master Luca young Z Little, He's got to

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Speaker 2: come on now, Yes, be safe. Do you think you

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Speaker 2: know one thing that we've been going to the combine

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Speaker 2: all these years and we indeed all low these many years.

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Speaker 2: And when we were there about I don't know, six hours,

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Speaker 2: I would say probably not even this year. Certainly by

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Speaker 2: the time we got to Tuesday. We drove over Monday

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Speaker 2: and then Tuesday was our first day. Malik Willis was

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Speaker 2: going to sign with the Miami Dolphins. Yep, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 2: was going to sign with the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: Also true.

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Speaker 2: The only thing we didn't know is how are the

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Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals going to eradicate themselves from Murray? And how

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Speaker 2: were the Dolphins going to eradicate themselves for tuap? And

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Speaker 2: then we also said with too, well, the next logical

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Speaker 2: place seems like it might be Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we tried to talk Kyler to Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: But we did.

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Speaker 2: But it is Kyler to Minnesota in the worst kept

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Speaker 2: secret of all time, makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 3: Just like Kyler being the first pick in that draft

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Speaker 3: to Arizona came full circle, didn't it. Kyler is when

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Speaker 3: they talk Kyler at the combine, you know what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Lock in, lock in, It's the no brainer place to go.

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Speaker 6: Justin.

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Speaker 3: Jefferson's got to be thrilled.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Adison and Jefferson of course. And now you get

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Speaker 2: O'Connell with him, like if Kyler takes to it, that's dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Now Kyler so believes in himself, which he should. Now

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Speaker 3: what's very cool about this and I didn't know this,

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Speaker 3: but he grew up a Vikings fan. Do you see

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Speaker 2: Yea, like a little guy.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Who had the who do we have on last week?

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Speaker 2: Who reiterated that he's he was voted the best high

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Speaker 2: I don't remember his say, the best Betool football prospect

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Speaker 2: crazy because they've had some players.

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Speaker 3: They've had some good ones, a few. One of the

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Speaker 3: things I thought was very interesting about his contract is

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Speaker 3: it's a one year contract obviously for the minimum. Because

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Speaker 3: he's getting paid by Arizona. He has a no tag clause.

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Speaker 3: So he believes that he is going to do so

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Speaker 3: be a possibility that he could come out of this

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Speaker 3: with an average of the top five quarterback salaries.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a that's a big bet on himself.

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Speaker 2: So the average of the top five quarterbacks has got

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Speaker 2: to be fifty million.

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Speaker 3: It's not small, it's it would be forty sixish, I think,

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Speaker 3: because remember Danny Dimes at the transition, which was thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: They said it saved him about eight million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, so it'd be forty sixish.

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Speaker 3: But by next year could very well be fifty. So

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Speaker 3: he is he has a no tag. He will put

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Speaker 3: He wanted that in his deal that they cannot tag

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Speaker 2: Believe in yourself the way Kyler believes in himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's incredible. Well, he goes and he lights it up.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, here's why it's really smart. You go

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Speaker 2: and you light it up.

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Speaker 3: There is no way that the Wolfs, the owners of

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Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, are going to let him leave just

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Speaker 3: like Sam Darnold did and go win a Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: Nope.

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Speaker 3: So if he plays well and is let's call it

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Speaker 2: It's a very tough division.

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Speaker 3: He could be very good and they could still have

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Speaker 3: a tough year, yeah, because that divisions loaded. But that

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Speaker 6: In the league.

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Speaker 3: And they won't let him walk if he's good. Absolutely not.

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Speaker 3: Now the question becomes, does anybody is there who in

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Speaker 2: I would be surprised if Minnesota made him available this

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Speaker 3: If Kyler's lighting it up mid season.

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Speaker 2: Now you're talking, yeah, yeah, I would be surprised if

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Speaker 2: McCarthy was available this like right now. Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 2: I think that you would because somebody who liked him.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely for sure. Kids every day on my phone

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Speaker 2: call them McCall McCarthy, your kid might be your best.

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Speaker 2: I think your kid is is g Man's you know who? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's that good. I can hear him saying

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Speaker 3: You have to like know the kids.

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Speaker 4: I have a luminary on hold for you there on

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Speaker 4: a Friday to interrupt, But I believe our punter, yes,

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Speaker 3: Beautiful balls he Cory, you got us, buddy?

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Speaker 7: Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Congratulations man, It's so good to have you back for

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Speaker 2: one more year. How did this come about? How excited

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Speaker 2: are you to to remain a Cleveland Brown?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm stoked. You know this is you know,

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Speaker 7: I've always made it clear since I've been here that

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Speaker 7: this is where, you know, I'd like to finish out

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Speaker 7: my career for another you know, hopefully five or six years.

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Speaker 7: But uh, yeah, you know it's always a long process,

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Speaker 7: especially being a punter. Uh, you kind of have to

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Speaker 7: wait for bigger deals to get done unless you know

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Speaker 7: you're the number one on everybody's board. So uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: it's kind of same go around his last time, wait

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Speaker 7: that worked for both of us to run it back

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Speaker 7: one more time.

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Speaker 3: Which I'm thrilled about because there was a part of

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Speaker 3: me that was fearful even as early as this week,

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Speaker 3: that I might not see you again, and yet I'm

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Speaker 3: going to. So I'm delighted. This is an absolute treat

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Speaker 3: and we're thrilled to have you back. The boys backsaw Rex,

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Speaker 3: He's excited, Andre Schmidt's excited. So we're going to keep

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Speaker 3: again right new special teams coordinator, an opportunity to get

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited for you know, me and Byron had

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Speaker 7: kind of how he wanted to play the game. And

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Speaker 7: you know, he brought some ideas up that I think

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Speaker 2: That you liked.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I like to hear that. I like to hear

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Speaker 3: that because I mean, first three years with the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 3: you're around, you know, forty nine ish yards of punt

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Speaker 3: and one of the top in the league. Ye had

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Speaker 3: the longest putt in the league, you know, three out

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Speaker 3: of four years at one point there. And that's one

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Speaker 3: of the things that you've been such a weapon for us,

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Speaker 3: right Your ability to flip the field has been an

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Speaker 3: absolute weapon for the Cleveland Browns, and so I'm excited

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Speaker 3: to see that again. I'm excited to see you just

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Speaker 3: how much goes into not only the punt, but the

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Speaker 3: kind of punt you're gonna hit, where you're trying to

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Speaker 3: punt it, the coverage that goes with it.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot more complicated.

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Speaker 3: Than you know, when you're playing in the street and

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Speaker 3: you're like, we're gonna do a punt. It's just like

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Speaker 3: just yeah, just dude, even though we enjoy watching you

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Speaker 3: kick it as.

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Speaker 7: Far as you can, yeah, and I love doing that,

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Speaker 7: you know, and obviously you know it's coverwards wasn't going

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Speaker 7: were just like, look, just let's take their work, turn

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Speaker 7: out of it and hit fair catch balls and just

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Speaker 7: you know, it's not worth the risk at this point.

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Speaker 7: And but you know, the last four or five weeks

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Speaker 3: That would be That would be fantastic. Yes, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. It's good smart, smart, smart smart,

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Speaker 3: That's great? And by the way, everybody in Cleveland wants

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Speaker 3: So I couldn't be happier for you, brother, Oh.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate that. I mean, we honestly could not do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well you're a good egg, that's right, Yes he is.

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Speaker 2: And we're glad. We're glad, glad you're still ours, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations on the new deal. We're thrilled you're going to

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Speaker 7: Oh, thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it all right there, it's beautiful, beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've gotten it. I got talked to all

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Speaker 3: was signing the cap number now for talking about roughly

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Speaker 3: for the Browns this year three hundred and forty million.

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Speaker 3: The percentage of what he occupies is significantly smaller than

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Speaker 3: it was when this deal was signed in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: And so you keep pushing out, the cap keeps going up,

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Speaker 3: you keep getting some of these benefits back from insurance

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Speaker 3: and other things, and then you're able to You're in

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Speaker 3: a very very good spot. So this is a good thing,

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Speaker 3: certainly for the for the Browns.

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Speaker 2: we go the rich attempting to get richer. The Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Rams discussed trading this per Diana Rossini trading for

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Speaker 2: AJ Brown before dealing for Trent McDuffie. While dialogue has

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Speaker 2: slowed down, the Rams continue to monitor things with interest.

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Speaker 2: I bet they would so.

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Speaker 3: I don't see how POOKA Davante and a J. Brown

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Speaker 3: would all co exist.

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Speaker 2: I think Sean McVay says, I'll deal with the problem

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Speaker 2: when it's my problem.

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Speaker 3: I think it'd become a problem.

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Speaker 2: It might, It might, it might, but Puka and AJ

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Speaker 2: would be nuts. Yeah, and DeVante was unbelievable in the

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Speaker 2: red zone.

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Speaker 3: De Montae Ams is like a goal line back.

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Speaker 2: He was terrible from a fantasy perspective, like they threw

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Speaker 2: it to him constantly down there was Yeah. Also this

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Speaker 2: uh Travis Ettien has been Travis Ettien or e T

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Speaker 2: n at t T E ten whatever.

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Speaker 3: Definitely not. He was definitely not divine a chan And

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Speaker 3: yet that's what it is, Travis Chan. Should we play this?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Play this? Play this here?

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Speaker 8: It is go ahead, going up, Travis Chan. So it

488
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Speaker 8: was like A C, H, A and E. And that's

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Speaker 8: how you always said Travis A Chan. When I went

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Speaker 8: to college, Uh, I kept telling about telling him in

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Speaker 8: my name like every day, every day, every day, and

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Speaker 8: like I was like four weeks they just couldn't get it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, it's eat like.

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Speaker 8: Is how you see it is how you say it

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Speaker 8: as so and that's that's that's that's that's how that became.

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00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 2: And it kind of took off because it was.

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Speaker 8: Easy for the pronouncers to say I didn't have to

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Speaker 8: just tell him. I don't have to correct them every

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Speaker 8: day to say my name. And just when I kind

500
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Speaker 8: of just started learning more about my last name and

501
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Speaker 8: how it came about and things like that, it's just

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Speaker 8: kind of stuck.

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Speaker 4: It made sense.

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Speaker 8: But uh, I'm very much open to uh being Travis

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Speaker 8: Hn again, just uh being myself. I don't have to

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Speaker 8: correct people here on how to say my name each

507
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Speaker 8: and every day, and I kind of love that, and uh,

508
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 8: that's just uh, just get back to me.

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00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 2: So it's it's clearly a Bayou Creole French pronunciation, and

510
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Speaker 2: so there that's how it happens. Has he been Travis

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Speaker 2: et t n or etn too long to go back?

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Speaker 3: No, it's interesting. How you know we had this with

513
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: to rod Tyrod. This is much different than that. I

514
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 3: also understand chan is not that hard to say. It's

515
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: certainly a then you know jackiet chan chan a chan.

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00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: It's also very on brand for Dabo Sweeney to be

517
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: like YETI and now, and that's very on brand for

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00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: Dabo to do that and just be like, well you're

519
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: at and et and us like I could totally see

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00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: him doing that. All it would take was the sports

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Speaker 2: information director at Clemson to just put a pronunciation A chan,

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00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: that's it, and then it would have been done as

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Speaker 2: a freshman like parents think.

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Speaker 6: What about.

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00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence has been with him the whole time.

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00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't how would Trevor Lawrence not know? Is why

527
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't the s ideat Clemson just be like.

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00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: A chan a chan? Yeah solved, we have the A

529
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Speaker 3: team now, we have the a chan. It's not hard.

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Speaker 3: That is it's not a hard pronunciation.

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Speaker 2: No, it is not. The Titans unveiled their in new

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00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: uniforms last night. Kyle Brandt m seated. There you go,

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Speaker 2: if you're watching it.

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Speaker 6: That's where he was. I wonder where he was.

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Speaker 3: Part of me was conspiracy theory. Nate was thinking that

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00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: after he went scorched Earth and had to take very

537
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: similar to ours. Yeah, that maybe they were like, you're

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00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: out for the rest of the week. But he was

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00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 3: there having a great time, and they're beautiful. It's great,

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00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: it's fantastic. It's it's just better. It's better that these

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00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: are uniforms that should be in the NFL. Of course

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00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: they should be for the Houston Oilers, but since they

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Speaker 3: can't be, I like this now. I will say I

544
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 3: saw the pictures of the helmets. Hell, let's he to

545
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 3: have a red face mask.

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00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: Obviously, I think this this is I think that powder

547
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 2: blue is a cheat code. So if you put powder

548
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: blue in anything, it wins. So if you take the

549
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: powder blue out of this, it's a pretty blah uniform design.

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Speaker 2: Quite honestly, I cannot I cannot stand the Tennessee and

551
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: the Titans above the numbers. Oh you know why we

552
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: need that. They've got a guitar string in the stripes

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00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: that you're never going to see, but that's what that

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00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: is supposed to be. Guitar strings in this. That's a

555
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: nice nod in Nashville, the Grand Old. They completely this

556
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: is the thing that's really amazing to me. They abandoned

557
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: the Navy entirely, which is the Tennessee Titans identity is

558
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: the Navy. I mean that's in it, like this is

559
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: a Houston Oilers. They're paying homage to the Houston Oilers,

560
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: which are beautiful. But I am surprised that if they were,

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00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: if they weren't just going to wear the Oilers uniforms

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00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: with that tea on the helmet, if they weren't going

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00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: to do that, then I am surprised that they did

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00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: not have some.

565
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: Navy blue in it at all. Is the swoosh Navy?

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00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 6: Maybe?

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00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 2: Honestly, it looks like Ole Missus uniforms to me, especially

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00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: with the white helmet with a white face.

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Speaker 7: Man.

570
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't like red face, man, it does so to me.

571
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: It reminds me of like when the Dolphins redd theirs.

572
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 2: Like it's hard to make those bad because the colors

573
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: are cool and all of it's cool, like they're good.

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00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: They're gonna look beautiful. They're an improvement of what they've

575
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: had big Lee. But I don't think they all the

576
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: way landed the plane.

577
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: The Titans when they started, when they had the white

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00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 3: they had a white lid with Steve McNair. It was

579
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 3: a white lid, but it had kind of like the

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00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 3: stripe was both navy.

581
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: Was navy and the baby blue. I think it was

582
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: all Navy on the stripe. And then they had the

583
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: tea with the fire yep on their uniform had navy

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Speaker 2: and over.

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00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had both. It had like I think powder

587
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: in the navy. Yeah, yeah, it had a little bit

588
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: of both. But like from the Tennessee perspective, they just

589
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: got rid of the Navy entirely, which I'm fine with. Yeah,

590
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: I think you should have kept some of it. And

591
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: I just even if it was in there should.

592
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: Haven't There should be an alternate that there should be

593
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: one jersey.

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00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: They just have a little piping this navy or putting

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00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: in the stripe like just a little yeah homage to that.

596
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: And then but I mean they're gonna be They're an

597
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: improvement of what they've been wearing.

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00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 6: Totally.

599
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: But it's not like the it's funny like in a

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00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: lot of instances the see there you go. I think

601
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: the guitar strings are gonna do that are entirely on

602
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 2: the on the TV. You're not gonna see those at all.

603
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: It's just gonna look like that.

604
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 6: For sure.

605
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: It's cool if you're wearing it. That should have been

606
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 2: a white The white should like the guard guitar strings

607
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: are over the baby that should have been a white stripe.

608
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: So I think those if now that we're looking at

609
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: this with this detail, I think that that is a

610
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: Navy and the guitar strings are Navy, and the slushes Navy.

611
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's where they're a little bit of the Navy.

612
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: So that's where they should have just had the striping

613
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: big stripe should have been white or red. There give

614
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 2: it that and then the red face mask. That helmet

615
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: is all missus helmet. That's exactly all miss is power

616
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 2: blue help.

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00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't Undertand why that's not a red face mask?

618
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah it should be.

619
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, the red would just make everything pop.

620
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: I do I do wonder if this is why the

621
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: oilers were or the Texans weren't allowed to have powder

622
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: blue as a primary. It got because they knew this

623
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: was coming and they couldn't have two teams in the

624
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: same division with the same color. That makes more sense.

625
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Then you can't wear powder blue ever, yeah, because they

626
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: own all shades of powder blue, Like I just don't.

627
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

628
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: So Yeah, a little a little red, white and blue

629
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: with a navy blue stripe and then the guitar sing

630
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: so and the slushes are so not at least it's

631
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: there for a little bit of that.

632
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

633
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: Now in the up close I do see it a

634
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: little bit.

635
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: But you're right. From far away, you're not gonna see.

636
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: You won't see that at all.

637
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: But it's these are great, These are massive improvements.

638
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope that Atlanta just does what does the

639
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: easy thing?

640
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Yes, do what we want.

641
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: Because the mock up of this, which was basically the

642
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: oiler's uniforms with that logo and the red face mask. Yep,

643
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: that's the helmet.

644
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, just do that.

645
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: Yep, you got it.

646
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 6: Yep.

647
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: And I saw that one bouncing around. It looks like

648
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: my hunches. They'll flip to it.

649
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: And I want the Broncos to do everything. Throwback the

650
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: white over the white on white Broncos with the that

651
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: ye helmet is fantastic.

652
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right. I'm told we might not like this.

653
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: This is Todd McShay and his people weighing in on

654
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: what we should do at number six.

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Speaker 9: Key additions include Zion Johnson, Titus Howard in a trade,

656
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 9: Tevin Jenkins re signed Okay and Elgin Jenkins as well,

657
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 9: and then throwing the linebacker Quincy Williams. Very clearly Andrew

658
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 9: Berry and the Cleveland Browns recognize.

659
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 10: We've got to fix this offensive line.

660
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 9: This is not about finding a quarterback this year that

661
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 9: can be twenty twenty seven's problem. We've got to get

662
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 9: our trenches better, especially on the offensive side, and then

663
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 9: eventually we've got to get some more weapons for when

664
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 9: we insert that quarterback or if, hey, if Deshaun Watson

665
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 9: shocks the world, or if or if Shador Sanders takes

666
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 9: that next big step, then great, then then that's a

667
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 9: that's a luxury for twenty twenty seven.

668
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 6: But we we.

669
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 9: Got to stop just plugging in quarterbacks thinking we fixed

670
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 9: all the problems if we don't have an offensive line

671
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 9: in this right supporting cast. So I appreciate what I

672
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 9: really appreciate what they're doing. I do, and then I

673
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 9: look at this. Now you've got here's how I see it.

674
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 9: You've got right tackle is Titus Howard, right guard is

675
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 9: Tevin Jenkins, center is elgend j Jenkins.

676
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 10: Left guard is Zion Johnson.

677
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 9: And now the question becomes Dwan Johnson or down Jones Hick, Sorry,

678
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 9: Dwan Jones or this pick at left tackle.

679
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 10: What makes that tricky is we've had this conversation.

680
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 9: The only left tackle at the top of this year's

681
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 9: tackle board is Monroe Freelan, who has eighteen starts and

682
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 9: is the least equipped to come in and really like that.

683
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 9: You feel great about Hey, plug and play first day

684
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 9: start left tackle, And if you're drafting someone at six,

685
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 9: he sure is hell better be plug and play first,

686
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 9: you know, But I don't know.

687
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: I don't know.

688
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 11: I don't know why, because this is what because you're

689
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 11: building your You're this is the year of the This.

690
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 10: Is one of these teams. It's just like the Jets.

691
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 10: This is one of those teams that don't lose too

692
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 10: many games.

693
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 11: Everyone gets fired, win enough, show some spark, let's see

694
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 11: what we're doing. Get a young nucleus. You bring in

695
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 11: the young offensive tackle from Georgia. The kid who's got

696
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 11: all the tools in the world, baptism by fire. This

697
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 11: year learns gets better, you know, kind of goes through

698
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 11: what Will Campbell went through this year. They ups and downs,

699
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 11: but maybe you got you find your starting left tackle,

700
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 11: and then when you take a tackle and when you

701
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 11: take a quarterback next year, you feel good about having

702
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 11: that young left tackle for at least another three years,

703
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 11: ideally four years, and a young quarterback for the next

704
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 11: I mean, that's that's a pretty if you have a starter,

705
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 11: a starting left tackle, and a starting quarterback in consecutive drafts.

706
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 11: And I would do it that way. I get your

707
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 11: tackle first and then your quarterback.

708
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 10: Because mimle, we know it has you no good.

709
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 9: I kind of like maybe a guard spencer, as you know,

710
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 9: he's he's a He's a right tackle who maybe could

711
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 9: play left if he can hold up a tackle. But

712
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 9: I think a lot of people in the league are

713
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 9: viewing him as a garter center.

714
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I.

715
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 10: Think I think Freeling is the most likely pick.

716
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: I do.

717
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 9: I I don't think we should rule out totally with

718
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 9: all these additions.

719
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 10: That Carnel Tate could be. Yeah, could be the.

720
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Pick, correct, Yeah, Tate is the other name that I have.

721
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 9: Here, but I feel best about Spencer Freeling. Monroe Freeling,

722
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 9: who I've got it fourteen overall on my draft board

723
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 9: right now, going at number six, So.

724
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 10: Let's let's plug him in. I do think, just to.

725
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 9: Clarify, if it's gonna be a tackle, it just only

726
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 9: makes sense for what you just outlined and what I

727
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 9: started the conversation with that it's Spencer for that, it's

728
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 9: Spencer's it's not Spencer, it's Monroe Freeling. If it's not

729
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 9: offensive tackle, I think this this pick would likely be

730
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 9: Carnel Tate.

731
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 5: Okay, I agree.

732
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 10: I actually think that that this is one of the

733
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 10: easier scenarios.

734
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: All right, there you go, Why is that gonna make

735
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: Why do you think that was gonna ended.

736
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: Up with Carnel Tate?

737
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or was that you were that genuine that maybe

738
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: that wasn't sarcastic?

739
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I think they were literally we want

740
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: to go offensive line and then if Cardinal Tate happens

741
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: to fall, but we don't think he's going to be there, and.

742
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: We're I'll tell you what my bigger issue is is

743
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: they did all of that talking about offensive line and

744
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: the one who kind of is the fit is Monroe Freeling,

745
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: but he's only started eighteen games and he's incredibly raw,

746
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: so like he's not let's go no, no, no, not

747
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: at all, like it's going to take. He's a pound

748
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: of a big pound of clay, but he's going to

749
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: have to be molded. Now we got a guy who

750
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: can do that part of me.

751
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: Things like if you could sign Rashid Walker, because right

752
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: now Adam Sheffer saying his market hasn't materialized the way

753
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: that he thought it was going to. You can take Freeling,

754
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: but what if you take Tate at six and what

755
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: if you like move back up maybe to get Freeling,

756
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: You get Tate and freeling Freeling is not obligated to

757
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: play right away. You have all of a sudden, now

758
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: your backup tackles are freeling in Dwan Jones. Yeah, We've

759
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: never been a position like that. And by the way,

760
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: I think if Luke Whipler can start at center, Jenkins

761
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: can play guard, you'd have Tevin Jenkins, who's played plenty

762
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: as your backup guard. Alton Jenkins is now your backup center.

763
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 3: Hopefully you know, George Warhawk can get some out of excenter,

764
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: and that also our lines, like Katie Levison started games three.

765
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: Maybe he ends up being a guard. I think he's

766
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: built more like a guard. All of a sudden, your

767
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: line's a lot deeper than it's been in forever. Not

768
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: a post, So no, I'm not a post. Yeah I

769
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: like that.

770
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, long ways to go.

771
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 6: Yes.

772
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: Now, the other thing where you could look at is

773
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: if you take if you get Rashid Walker, who's only

774
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: twenty six, that could be your long term solution. You

775
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: could say, all right, we'll deal with that later. We

776
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: got Dwan now as our swing tackle who started many games.

777
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: I went through everything on the interior. You're now in

778
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: a position where maybe you're free to take Tate and

779
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: Caleb Downs, Trileub downs falls, or to do something you know,

780
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: more off book than having to say because right now

781
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: it feels to me like you've got two of your

782
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: first three picks are gonna be on the offensive line,

783
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 3: and one of them is going to be a wide receiver,

784
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: which I'm totally fine with. But now we got this

785
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: extra money, We've got an opportunity with a guy that

786
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: you know was the number five free agent on a

787
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: lot of people's top one hundred free agent lists out there,

788
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: who's been one of the best pass blocking left tackles

789
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 3: in the league. Which I'm surprised that he's out there,

790
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: but he is.

791
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 2: Six has to be a blue chip, cornerstone player.

792
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: Six overall has to be yes, And I want him

793
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: to be someone that scores the football me too.

794
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: I think we're on the record, we.

795
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: Both we're wondering about that.

796
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if they do, but no, like so

797
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: like to me, that's that that has to be that, Like,

798
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: that's that's got to be a dude. Yeah, so when

799
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: you pick that high, you got a it's got to

800
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: be a dude. All right, there you go. Coming up next,

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Speaker 2: and gentlemen, doctor z doc to z with a prediction.

818
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: Initial prediction on the winning margin for Jarvis Landry in

819
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: the off season acquisition poll at seventy percent. I do

820
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: think at some point you brought it down a little,

821
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: just for like a number six and two thirds. Yeah, yeah,

822
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: right on it. Seventy percent. Jarvis is your winner. Yeah,

823
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: no doubt, no doubt, no doubt about it. Jarvis Lanjury,

824
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: absolute legend and deserving of this honor. I thought it

825
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: was going to be Jarvis, so we seed it pretty well.

826
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: We thought it was gonna be Jarvis and Odell. Our

827
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: fans apparently would be thrilled to have Jervis.

828
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: Landry come back anytime. Maybe not so much on the

829
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 3: other but yeah, Jarvis won this appropriate appropriate.

830
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew certainly that he was. I mean I

831
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: said this yesterday. I knew that he was one of

832
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: the more popular players. I didn't realize he was that

833
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: much more popular than Amar, like to that.

834
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: Level, because Amar is very productive, very good player. But

835
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: Marii's quiet. He's quiet, he's not a talker. Jarvis was

836
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: like a culture force. Anything about hard knocks and bless

837
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: him and his speech about you know who we were

838
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: going to be contagious. Yeah, like, yeah, Jarvis on a

839
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: different levels.

840
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: He's a one man culture tornado.

841
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was high profile multiple time. You know,

842
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: he was just as quiet as Amari was. Now, they

843
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: were both very dedicated to their craft and excellent receivers,

844
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: but as quiet as Amari was, you're talking about, you know,

845
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: as loud and as a vocal and visible as Jarvis

846
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: Landry was, if that makes sense.

847
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there was a they just went about it

848
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: different ways. Jarvis was just so man. He was just

849
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: so outfront. Yeah, he was so out front. It's pretty

850
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: amazing how quickly like it all fell. Like I wonder,

851
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: like if this if I were to ask the seventy

852
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: percent of the people who and Jarvis is our guy.

853
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: I'd love Jarvis. I hope we have him on. I'd

854
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: love to have him on to celebrate his victory. But

855
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: like I wonder, how many people realize he only had

856
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: one thousand yard season with us. Yeah, it was eleven

857
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: hundred seventy four. He had six touchdowns. That was in

858
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: year two.

859
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, because in fact, Amari is the only one that's

860
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 3: had back to back thousand yard seasons in franchise history.

861
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: The other thing with Amari's or with Jarvis, he did

862
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: a lot of cool stuff, Like he threw it through

863
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: the touchdown back, like he did all that stuff too.

864
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: He threw Donovan Peoples Jones first NFL reception was from

865
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: Jervis Landry Cincinnati.

866
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

867
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So his last year here is twenty twenty one.

868
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: It ends up just being four years here. It felt

869
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: like it was more of it was four years in Miami,

870
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: four years here, and then he played one year in

871
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two with New Orleans and that was it.

872
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: He started three games twenty five for two seventy two,

873
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: and that was it.

874
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: If it was a memory serves, he ran like a

875
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: four to seven forty, and so he was a guy

876
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: that when he got the most out of his town,

877
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: was so tough, such a precise route runner, did everything

878
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: so hard, great blocker, great hands, all of it. But

879
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: that when he his athleticism dropped even a little bit

880
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 3: from where it was, it just became very difficult for him.

881
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

882
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 3: Now, he told an unbelievable story on his podcast. It

883
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 3: was with Leonard Fournette that he thought he was going

884
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: back to Atlanta, with Leonard Fournette, with Deshaun Watson. Yeah,

885
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: and in fact had calls with Arthur Smith about how

886
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: he's going to be used in the offense and had

887
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: his He was literally walking out of his house. He

888
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: had a car there to take him to the airport

889
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: to fly to atlant They were having dinner together, he

890
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: Leonard Fournette, DeShawn, I think Arthur Smith, and as he

891
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: was like about to walk out the door and get

892
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: into this car is when they found out that DeShawn

893
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: was going to the Brown So when people who forget

894
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: how that all went down, Yep, you know we talked

895
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: about you know, you didn't want Sam and he was

896
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 3: going to Atlanta. Yep, it was done, and then things

897
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: changed and he became a Cleveland Brown.

898
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 5: Yep.

899
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 2: The do you know where Arthur Smith is now?

900
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: I do.

901
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: He's the offensive coordinator at the Ohio State University, which

902
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: you've got to be pumped about.

903
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 4: The picture of him and Matt Patricia in Ohio State

904
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: year on day one of spring ball the other day.

905
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

906
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: It was a pretty pretty insane.

907
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: They are paying Patricia three point seventy five million bucks

908
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: to coordinate defense. They have a forty million dollar coaching

909
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 2: and football support staff.

910
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 3: Patricia has been was good right last year, he was elite.

911
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Elite they hadn't They probably had the best defense they've

912
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: had at Ohio State. And that's saying something. They were suffocating. Yeah,

913
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean just completely now. They had a traumbert of

914
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: guys are gonna go in the top ten in the draft.

915
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: That helps.

916
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: But he was of Avenger, so that helped. They were

917
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: doing things that you know a lot of others. Here's

918
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: what we're doing.

919
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

920
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 3: What I think is interesting is how does Arthur Smith

921
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: and what we know about his offensive style and what

922
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: he wants it to look like, how does that translate

923
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: to the college football game.

924
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: So they're going to run Ryan Day's offense, and he's

925
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: just going to coordinate it. So they don't change offenses,

926
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: so they stay spread, they stay all the stuff. But

927
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: he is it isn't. But he's also never coordinated in

928
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: an offense where you have a talent advantage almost always

929
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: for sure. So he's going to run Ohio State's off

930
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: and he's just gonna call it and coordinate it. So

931
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: that's the way it's going.

932
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 5: To go.

933
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 2: Because you can't I mean.

934
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: Under center.

935
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going to work. And so and you

936
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: would never do that when you have you know, Jeremiah

937
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: Smith and Chris Henry Junior, Brandon Ennis and all the

938
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: talent that they have, so they'll spin it all over

939
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: the place, is my guess. I'm guessing that the big

940
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: reason Ryan hired him was for the run game part,

941
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 2: because they struggled in short yardage last year. A lot

942
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: everything I've been told from the Ohio State perspective when

943
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: they go after these NFL coordinators or former head coaches

944
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 2: is they asked for a two years, give me two years.

945
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: Is just give me a minimum of two Now, Patricia

946
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: took a big pay bump to stick around. There was

947
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: a lot of NFL interests. Chip Kelly bounced after one

948
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: year to go to the Raiders, So that's the idea.

949
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say is like, my perception

950
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: of Matt Patricia, based on his time as a coordinator

951
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: and his time in Detroit, could not have been more

952
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: different than the Matt Patricia that I met, Hunter's defensive

953
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: ordinator to Ohio State. So I'm curious to see if my

954
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith perception matches up as well.

955
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: We'll see. It is a great job, but it is

956
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 3: probably somewhat humbling to be there when you've been where

957
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: you are. I think it's a great job. I'm not

958
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: saying no, no, no, for sure an elite college one and

959
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: from Ohio State standpoint, it's like, listen, you have a

960
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, an offensive coordinator you want to get ready

961
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: for the league. You have a guy who is a

962
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: head coach in the league on an offensive coordinator and

963
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator in the league. You have a guy

964
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: who was a defensive coordinator and a head coach in

965
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: the NFL. It's your defensive coordinator. Like, where where are

966
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: you going to be better prepared for what the National

967
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: Football League is going to ask you than Ohio State?

968
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 5: Nowhere?

969
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 3: You.

970
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: Just so this is twelve years ago. Mark Bntoni, who's

971
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: the general manager there, Now, I was talking to him,

972
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: well over a decade ago. I'm like, everybody's talking about linebacker,

973
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: you wide receiver, you dude, be NFL you Yeah. And

974
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: that's what they've done their NFLU.

975
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: They give you some royalties.

976
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: Who says they're not. Let's go what do we got

977
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: we got? I love these college tournaments. Your Wildcats play tonight,

978
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: Let's go there. They got Iowa State in the semi

979
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: final the Big Ten. By the way, they got rid

980
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: of the glass court. Did you see that? Yes, the

981
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: glass court lasted a day, the.

982
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: One where they could change it out.

983
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was. People were slaving.

984
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 4: It is like Van Pella I saw last night and said.

985
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: It raised right, like, well now to be would.

986
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 4: Instead of instead of balking at it and going we're

987
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 4: above whatever criticism, We're going to leave it. Like three

988
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 4: of the four coaches left in that tournament and the

989
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: commissioner were like, yeah, out get rid of it. Yeah yeah,

990
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: and they did, and they did props to them.

991
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 2: Can you imagine they've wasted money on that? Whoever fit

992
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: the bill for that thing?

993
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

994
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Holy smokes, so that'll be fine, and then the

995
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 2: Max Semis tonight in town. You have UMass and Toledo

996
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: in the five o'clock game, and then you've got the

997
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: blood feud in the late game. Acrony Kit, you going,

998
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: g Man.

999
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 4: Maybe tomorrow night.

1000
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: Maybe tomorrow night, Young Gabril, he's got to go tonight

1001
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: to lift his flashes over.

1002
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 4: The confidence that can will take care of their business.

1003
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't, my boy. Johnny Gross is going to

1004
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: get it done. G two mac teams getting in. You'll think, well,

1005
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 2: they're getting.

1006
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: Auburn last night. Nice job. Hey, Bruce Pearl, where are

1007
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 4: you at today with that victory?

1008
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: Lab How about him yelling at the officials from the

1009
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: stand like a He was like a youth, like a

1010
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: basketball parent. This guy. Yeah, good grief, absolute joke of things.

1011
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: All right. Coming up next, we will recap free agency.

1012
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: You got to do it in six seconds.

1013
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 3: We're gonna recap free agency. We're going to change our

1014
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: outfits and we're going to do talk about some things.

1015
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: Tournament upsets sold.

1016
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Speaker 2: crush it there, my friend. The first week of NFL

1030
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: Free Agency is in the books. My friend, I ask

1031
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: you this question. It's an interesting in the way that

1032
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: this is phrased, because I think you could say that

1033
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 2: many need to have immediate impacts. Browns free agent signing

1034
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: you think will have the most immediate impact.

1035
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, as it relates to the shop,

1036
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: get it while it getting is good. Secondly, we're working

1037
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: on endorsements. So that's what that's what that's like.

1038
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: That was the least Oh, that's a nice littles a

1039
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: little taste. So what's going on.

1040
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1041
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: You know, if we were doing endorsements for the Pro Shop,

1042
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 2: we could have the gear on and say you can

1043
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: score this lovely item for merely fill in the blank.

1044
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: Could be like you can look this good. You could

1045
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 3: look this good too, well almost almost, but you get

1046
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: the idea. In the vicinity of the vicinity, right right, sure,

1047
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: for sure, all right, Browns free agent signing, I think

1048
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: we'll have the most immediate impact is a tie because

1049
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: Titus Howard was a trade. It's going to be a

1050
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 3: tie between Zion Johnson and Elton Jenkins.

1051
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: They both need to. All those guys do yeah, I

1052
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 2: mean they they're all they're all going to start. Yeah,

1053
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: so they gotta go.

1054
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: They gotta play well, they have to. I mean the

1055
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 3: reality is, thus far we have not free agent free agented,

1056
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: you know, a weapon. No, Jack Stole is here to

1057
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: the most catches. He has a season eleven. I mean

1058
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: he's here to block if he you know, and compete

1059
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 3: for a rocket spot. Try to get on the team.

1060
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: You're trying to get on the team.

1061
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 6: You know.

1062
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: Corey Bullhork has I don't consider him a free agent

1063
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 3: because he was with us, but he will have an

1064
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 3: amediate impact because he he's going to kick the ball, yeah,

1065
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: and he's gonna hold it is And I'm glad he's back.

1066
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: He could absolutely boom it. And I think that, you know,

1067
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: we got to make sure we cover, but let him

1068
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: boom it, let him live, let him thrive. I'm excited

1069
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: about that. But I think it's got to be it's

1070
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 3: got to be the guys on the offensive line. That's

1071
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: what everything we've done has been been about. It's the

1072
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: guys on the offensive line.

1073
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they they are all going to start. You

1074
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: expect them to. They've all got to play at the

1075
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: level of minimum of what they've been and hopefully they

1076
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: play even better. And and then that allows for you

1077
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: to attack the draft in a little bit different way.

1078
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: So it is critical that they're all really, really good

1079
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: and they all have to have an immediate impact. It's

1080
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: just that simple. And then we can attack the draft

1081
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: accordingly what team has helped themselves the most this free agency.

1082
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: As we pull this out now to the National Football.

1083
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 3: League, can we go through I feel like maybe you

1084
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: and I have the time to me and or three,

1085
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: we can do this, Yeah, and I'd like to do it.

1086
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,479
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just kind of throw out teams that I

1087
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: think have really helped themselves, and then maybe you and

1088
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 3: I can say which one has helped themselves?

1089
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 6: Like it?

1090
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: I like it?

1091
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: So I believe that the Buffalo Bills have helped themselves.

1092
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: You almost need a tracker. I got it.

1093
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go team. We'll go through this.

1094
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: So AFC East the Buffalo Bills. What site do you

1095
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: want so I can I'm.

1096
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 3: On the NFL dot Com Free Agency tracker or it's

1097
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: got team by team additions.

1098
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: That's what you need.

1099
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 5: That's what I need, we need.

1100
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: That's what we're getting there, all right, I'm getting there

1101
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 2: now free agency. This I remember this from Wednesday's program.

1102
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: I remember being saying, like, these guys got this sorted out.

1103
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: I usually go to ESPN, but their site in this instance,

1104
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: it's just not there. All right. I like where you're

1105
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 2: at AFC East. So what I'd like you to do?

1106
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: Let's that's pretty good.

1107
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: So the Buffalo Bills you bring in DJ Moore, yep,

1108
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: you keep Dawson Knox, who they like. You keep your center,

1109
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 3: Connor McGovern who they like. They keep their safety Sam Franklin,

1110
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: they keep their kicker, Tyler Bass. They like all of

1111
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 3: those guys. The two big additions though, are Dj Moore

1112
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: and Bradley Chubb. Yeah, and you're a team that's trying

1113
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: to win, you get a ten SAC guy, and you

1114
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: get maybe not a true number one receiver, but a

1115
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: guy who certainly will be the best receiver on your team,

1116
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: and that you've had since Stefan Diggs in DJ Moore.

1117
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: Massive upgrade. Yeah, so I think, yeah, they approached themselves

1118
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: as a true contender, let's go win it.

1119
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1120
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: So I think that they've really helped themselves as you

1121
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: go on here, I don't think anybody in our division

1122
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: would fit in the like. Really has helped themselves. Obviously,

1123
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: we've addressed our offensive line and Kevin Cole, you know

1124
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: he's got that chart we've got. We're the most improved team. Yeah,

1125
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: after a free agency, So thank you for that.

1126
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit surprised a weekend that New England

1127
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 2: hasn't done more to take advantage. I mean, they didn't

1128
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: get Dobbs on four year seventy. They get Draymond Jones,

1129
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: but I think and Vera Tucker too.

1130
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, they year deal. I mean I just did.

1131
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: I thought they were I thought they'd be in the

1132
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: mix and maybe they still will. I mean AJ Brown

1133
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: hasn't been traded, like there could be some other movement there.

1134
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 2: I have no idea what the Jets are doing. You're

1135
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 2: right in the AFC, nor if we can revisit uh,

1136
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: I mean you it's unscrupulous, but I think Baltimore did

1137
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: a hell of a job based on yes, yes it

1138
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: is what it is. But like they were able to

1139
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: get a top line defensive end and keep their picks.

1140
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like the way they did it,

1141
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: the way they did it, but it does feel like, yes.

1142
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 2: It does feel like they won a little bit. They

1143
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh a little bit too. That if if Rogers comes

1144
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: back and now Dowdell, who was really good last year

1145
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: in Carolina, two big receivers on the outside, they're gonna

1146
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: pair Pittman with DK. I mean, they're better than they

1147
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: were last year on paper, provided Rogers returns.

1148
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: And they brought in a good corner and Jamel Dean

1149
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: to pair with uh, Joey Porter Junior or they've been

1150
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: Santi Samuel. Yeah, they've gotten a little bit better. What

1151
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: here's the thing that I think is stunting. Once again,

1152
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 3: they are allowing themselves to be held hostage on the

1153
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: timeline of Aaron Rodgers and Seth Rollins. I thought made

1154
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 3: a great point earlier on a Thursday morning about that

1155
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 3: on Good Morning Football, is like, this isn't MVP Aaron Rodgers, No,

1156
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: not at all. Why are you letting him dictate your timeline?

1157
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: Like what if he ends up being like, no, I'm good,

1158
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: and then you've met every other quarterback that you'd have

1159
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 3: been interested in has signed in free agency?

1160
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: Bo, unless they already know he's always coming back, just

1161
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: like I believe they did. Yet last year we had

1162
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: this conversation all the time. Last year, they were behaving

1163
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: as if they knew they knew he was coming. I

1164
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: think they're behaving as if they know he's returning.

1165
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: So why wouldn't he just say it?

1166
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: Because because he's a weirdo and he likes the he

1167
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: likes the attention. I guess I don't know he likes

1168
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: it too much. It's off putting to me, but like

1169
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: for sure, it seems like they're on the same page

1170
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 2: at least.

1171
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 6: YEP.

1172
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 3: I think the Houston Texans have held a little bit better.

1173
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: How Houston, what a what a bevy of moves?

1174
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of it's keeping. But in terms

1175
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: of you know, David Montgomery, they keep Kaymie Fairbairn, their kicker,

1176
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 3: who's now the highest paid kicker in the NFL. They

1177
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: keep e J. Sped who played well. But they bring

1178
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 3: in and they keep Sheldon Rankins, They keep Na Kwon Jones.

1179
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: They signed Logan Hall, they keep Daniel Hunter, that was big.

1180
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 3: They bring in Brayden Smith, and obviously they keep Dalton Schultz.

1181
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: So a lot of it's keeping. But I think they've

1182
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: done some some very good things to improve themselves there.

1183
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: Tennessee is certainly an improved team. Yep, in terms of

1184
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: the talent that they have. Now, do I think that

1185
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: they overpaid for some things? Absolutely? Wandale Robinson they paid

1186
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: a ton. Daniel Bellinger, they paid a ton. You know

1187
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: what's funny is you have two coaches who are like,

1188
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 3: let's just get in Robert sal and Brian Dable. Let's

1189
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: just bring back all the guys that got me fired before.

1190
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: Seems like it, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean this is

1191
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: all yeah strange.

1192
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 3: But they bring in Alante Taylor, they bring in Cordell

1193
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 3: flot So they got two guys there. They get John

1194
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: Franklin Myers. They signed Jordan Elliott, signed Jacob Martin, they

1195
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: get Jermaine Johnson in a trade, so they have massively

1196
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: overhauled their roster. Wandell Robinson is to me one of

1197
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: the stranger signings there.

1198
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are better.

1199
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: You keep Taekwon Thornton who I wanted, Kelsey's coming back,

1200
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker's there, and then a Looie Gillman who played

1201
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: really well last year. The former Charger played really really

1202
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: well for Baltimore when he went there, and he signs

1203
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 3: with Kansas City. So I think they got better the Raiders.

1204
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: You certainly from a talent standpoint, they're better. Why I'm

1205
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: not necessarily sure, but they're trying to give, you know,

1206
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: really surround their young quarterback.

1207
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: I think if he's decent, they they could be a

1208
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: little dangerous. And that if he's decent, that is the best.

1209
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: Division in football. Yeah, yeah, because if they're good, they're

1210
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: better than the Cardinals. Yes to be, you know, and

1211
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 3: then their top three I think could you know, maybe

1212
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 3: they don't go toe to toe completely with Seattle defending

1213
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: champs Rams Niners, but Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos are pretty darn good.

1214
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 5: YEP.

1215
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: I agree, So.

1216
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: We'll see there. But I think the Raiders have improved themselves.

1217
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 3: The Chargers certainly believe that they improved themselves, and they've

1218
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 3: tried to get significantly more physical. They kept Khalil Mack,

1219
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 3: which was very, very big for them. They bring in

1220
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 3: a center Tyler Biattish. They bring in a guard, Cole Strange,

1221
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: who was with us for a hot second. They bring

1222
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 3: in Charlie Cohler, and they bring in a true fullback

1223
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: in alec Ingold Keithon Mitchell. I think is a nice

1224
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: change of pace to Marion Hampton in terms of just

1225
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 3: a home run hitter.

1226
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 5: Yep.

1227
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: So that's what they've done in the NFC. I mean

1228
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: the team you got to look at, I think is Washington, Washington.

1229
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: It's Washington.

1230
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1231
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 3: You get a kwan Quo at tight end. You keep

1232
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: Laramie Tunsel there under a new contract. You resigned some

1233
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 3: of the guys on the line that did they played

1234
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 3: well for you. You bring in Chase on bringing a

1235
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 3: Mena who you sign a Dafe Oway to a big deal.

1236
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 4: Yep.

1237
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: You bring in Tim Settle, which is a guy that

1238
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: the Browns were introit in. You signed Leo Chanal, who's

1239
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 3: a linebacker we had talked about, and he signed Nick

1240
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 3: Cross who's a darn good safety.

1241
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: So that team is they're they're in a good spot.

1242
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 3: Yep, they are in a very good spot. I would

1243
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: say the rest of the NFC North, I don't see

1244
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: a whole lot of action there. NFC South Atlanta is

1245
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: definitely a better, yep than they were.

1246
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: Yep.

1247
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 3: Keeping Kyle Pitts was big, and then just just getting

1248
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: to a tongue of I low I think makes them better.

1249
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean he's gonna fit great. I

1250
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 2: know that the Carolina Panthers feel like they've they liked

1251
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: their offseason so far, and it's easy to see why.

1252
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 2: They've They added a lot of guys into the mix.

1253
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 2: So they have a little Lloyd on the back side

1254
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: of the on the at linebacker there and Jalen Jalen

1255
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: Phillips as well. So yeah, that that's a team that

1256
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: made the playoffs and wants to kind of cement their

1257
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 2: status atop. Even Kenny Pickett behind Bryce. I like that too.

1258
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, John Metchi showed some signs

1259
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: of life with the Jets last year, right, and now

1260
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 3: he's reuniting with his college quarterback, and so you wonder

1261
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 3: how that how that'll play out for them. Tampa, I

1262
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 3: think has gotten worse. I think that's pretty clear. And

1263
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 3: then you go to the NFC West. The Rams are better

1264
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: because they bring in Trent McDuffie and signed Jalen Watson,

1265
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: so they have now two loaded yep, the corners. They

1266
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: bring in Cam curl as well at safety, and then

1267
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: they're the Rams, so they improve some things they need

1268
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: to do. And then I think that the Niners are

1269
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 3: better because they got Mike Evans.

1270
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: Yes, they sure did.

1271
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, that just makes you significantly better. So

1272
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: those are the teams i'd say probably as we went

1273
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: through this, the Bills, the Commanders, Niners like Mike Evans

1274
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: to me, is that big of a move. I maybe

1275
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: I'm overstating it, but those feel like the most improved

1276
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: teams to me.

1277
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: I would add the Raiders to that. Raiders, yes, fair,

1278
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: They're drafted number one overall and I think you know,

1279
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: if Bendoz is decent, they could be win seven games.

1280
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know if that's what they want

1281
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: to do, but I think they could. They could have

1282
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: biggest head scratching signing so far. In free agency.

1283
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 3: That's a good question.

1284
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: Wandale Robinson at seventy eight has got to be on

1285
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: the top of the list. I also think Linderbaum make

1286
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: like making one hundred and fifty percent.

1287
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 4: That I do have, like Alec Pierce.

1288
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got one hundred and whatever he got.

1289
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: And then you trade your number one receiver.

1290
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1291
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, the one that the boye mafe at twenty

1292
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: a year seems like a lot. Wandale Robinson, that's the

1293
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: one that's hard at basically twenty million dollars a year

1294
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: is wild Alec Alec Pierce. You can at least say, listen,

1295
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: what is valued in this league? Right, chunk plays they

1296
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 3: directly translate to win. Yeah, And while Alec Pearce is

1297
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 3: not a one hundred catch guy or even a fifty

1298
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: catch guy at this point in his career, Alec Pierce

1299
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: has led the National Football League in yards per catch

1300
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: in each of the last two seasons. Yeah, twenty two

1301
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 3: point three, twenty one point three. His forty seven catches

1302
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: went for a thousand and three yards. So forty seven

1303
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 3: catches in fifteen games. It's three catches a game, and

1304
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: yet he averaged sixty six point nine yards per game. Now,

1305
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Speaker 3: is that sustainable?

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: He's out of two years in a row. Maybe it

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01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: is sustainable. I don't know the answer to that. But

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Speaker 3: if he can get involved a little bit more on

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Speaker 3: the intermediate plus do that, then all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: he's worth that kind of money. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: Alec Pierce is a guy that when he's lining up

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01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 3: out there, everybody's got to pay attention to. And it's

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Speaker 3: not just his ability to run behind the defense, which

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Speaker 3: he certainly can do. And again, this was a guy

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Speaker 3: that we talked about on this show come out of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: that we really liked and thought might be a good

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Speaker 3: fit for us. He's also six three two eleven and

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01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: when you watch his highlights, yes he's behind the defense,

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01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: but a lot of times he's making contested catches ye downfield,

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01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 3: and he's just strong, you know's how to high point

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01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 3: the ball and does a very good job.

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Speaker 2: He's his physicality really well.

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Speaker 3: Very well. By the way, another thing the factor in

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Speaker 3: with the Commanders is there's a lot of reports that

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Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuka is going to sign there. He and Jayden

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01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: Daniels are great friends from their time and Arizona State

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Speaker 3: z State. Yeah together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they both were at Arizona State. Jade then went

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01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: to LSU to finish, but they both they both were

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Speaker 2: at Arizona State at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like he would. They're really really tight. So if

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Speaker 3: you can get Brandon Ayuk add that to that mix,

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01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: that seems to be even better for the for the

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Speaker 3: Washington Commanders in terms of their off season performance. Yeah,

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01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: the Wandale Robinson won. I'm gonna go back to that

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01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: because I was talking about Pierce. Pierce has got at

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: least a one thousand yard season under his belt. He's

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Speaker 3: got you know, he leads the league in yards per catch.

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01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: Now Wandelle Robinson, to be fair, also had one thousand

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 3: yards last year. Wandelle Robinson's career yards per catch and

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01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 3: he guess twelve point eight nine point two.

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, I even went low.

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01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 3: Four years in the league, He's caught two hundred and

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01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 3: sixty eight balls, two hundred and sixty eight balls, two

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 3: thousand and four and sixty five yards nine point two

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01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: yards of catch. How many touchdowns do you think he

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: has on two hundred and sixty eight receptions.

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Speaker 2: I don't think many. I'm gonna go five.

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01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: Nine nine total, one one, three and four. He is

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Speaker 3: I don't get it, a very short area slot receiver,

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01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: high volume in that regard, but certainly not eighteen million

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01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's the one to me that jumps out,

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Speaker 2: especially when you look at like what Dobbs got in

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01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: some other he got more total than Dobbs. Dobbs was

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: seventy he was seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when did Dabel get fired.

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Speaker 5: In season?

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it in season this year?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, seems like it was.

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Speaker 4: It was in season? Yeah, yeah, uh, best trade Brian

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Speaker 4: dave All got fired November tenth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in season best trade. Maybe that hasn't happened yet.

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01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: Maybe not. I do think that, you know, I know

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Speaker 2: who are the big trades? Well, I mean the McDuff

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01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: one was a big one.

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Speaker 3: That's probably probably the best. Yeah, because DJ Moore definitely

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Speaker 3: fulfills they need. But it was met as being in

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Speaker 3: the it was regarded as being an overpay around the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rams got a top flight corner yep, on

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Speaker 2: a team in his prime, on a team that's ready

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Speaker 2: to go win the Super Bowl. That and they get

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Speaker 2: a top flight corner. And because of the way that

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Speaker 2: they actually have another one that's still there. They give

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Speaker 2: up twenty nine overall to get it. They weren't going

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: to get somebody at twenty nine overall as good as mcduffee.

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Speaker 2: So and I think it's as fine for the Chiefs too,

1380
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: by the way, like they need some youth in there,

1381
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: so I think it kind of works for them. But

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Speaker 2: I like that trade from the.

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Speaker 3: Rams perspective, I think it's wild that Michael pitt was

1384
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: worth they traded. All the Steelers traded for was a

1385
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Speaker 3: sixth rounder and twenty twenty six and they got back.

1386
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 3: They dropped sixteen spots and got Michael Pittman.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty good deal for Pittsburgh.

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: Feels really good for Pittsburgh.

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 4: David Montgomery.

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Speaker 3: I liked that David Montgomery trade. A great deal for

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01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. I like the Titus Howard trade for US.

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01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: You had the trade with Tennessee where it was basically

1393
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: Jermaine Johnson the edge for Tavandre Sweat to the Jets. Yeah,

1394
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: they're really Obviously the big one would have been Max Crosby.

1395
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 3: But we all know what happened there, yeah, or maybe

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 3: we don't know what happened there, but nonetheless.

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it pains me, but actually what Baltimore

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01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: did for them is smart. I'm envious because they basically

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: they got ninety percent of the player that they were

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Speaker 2: going to get and they kept their picks.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 3: So I think the Rashan Gary trades a good trade

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: for Dallas.

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01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: Yep. Ranked the quarterback signings, well, we don't know them

1405
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: all yet, No, but the two of one I like

1406
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 2: for him and the organization.

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Speaker 3: I think Tua is excellent. To Atlanta, I'm gonna just

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01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: I'm We're just gonna say Kyler to Minnesota that would

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01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: be my number one. Two to Atlanta, and then Malik

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Speaker 3: Willis two. Yeah, Miami would be my my number three.

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01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: What is your favorite free agent signing that has not

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Speaker 2: involved a quarterback?

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: Mike Evans to the Niners.

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: Love it lots to like there. I do think that

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: for the perspective of how do you put one in

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: a position to succeed? And it's not my money. If

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Speaker 2: I'm the Raiders and you get Linderbaum even at one

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty percent of what the market used to be,

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01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: and you've over and I think you've overpaid in all

1420
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: of it, and it's a bit of a head scratcher.

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I understand what they're thinking, and it's not my money.

1422
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: And so if I'm going to draft a quarterback number

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01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: one overall, I've got to put him in a position

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: to succeed. And now I don't have to worry about

1425
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: pressure coming up the middle on him. Initially, for most

1426
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: young quarterbacks, that's what gets them. It's when the packet

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: collapses from the inside. And they sorted that out with Linderbaum,

1428
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: so it's too much center. They get the best center.

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01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: So that should solidify that that will put Mendoza in

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01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 2: a position to succeed. I'm not totally sold on him

1431
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: in terms of what he's going to be at the

1432
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: National Football League level, but guess what he's used to

1433
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: that he's been doubted only always, He's been doubted every

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01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 2: single game Indiana played, even though they were massive favorites

1435
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: in a lot of games. And and so I think

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01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: from their perspective, if you're trying to put that quarterback

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: in the best position, that one very much wins. I also,

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: you mentioned Montgomery. I think Pachecko is going to be

1439
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: a nice replacement for him in Detroit. Yeah, I mean

1440
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: he runs hard. That dude runs hard when he's healthy,

1441
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: does run very and now he doesn't have to be

1442
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 2: the bell cow. He just comes in behind your mirror. Gibbs,

1443
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 2: I kind of like that as they basically, I'm guessing

1444
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: that's cheaper for that.

1445
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: For a one year, one point eight million dollars deal.

1446
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: There's sometimes in Checko that maybe we.

1447
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: Don't maybe that is yeah, I don't know, that could

1448
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 2: be one year one point yeah, one point eight.

1449
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: That's like barely above the league minimum. Yeah, but Checko

1450
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 3: his first two years eight thirty and nine to thirty five,

1451
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 3: he had eight thirty and five average four point nine

1452
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 3: yards carry, then four point six. The last few years

1453
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 3: he's averaged three point seven three point nine yards carry

1454
01:06:58,840 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: in Kansas City, where.

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Speaker 12: Like in should be better, should be pretty easy to run. Yeah,

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 12: Wild week, Wild wild Week. One of the acquisitions. Who's

1457
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 12: going to have to play and play well for us

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 12: right away? As Titus howard Z went one on one,

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Speaker 12: we'll have that for you coming up next.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna have to have an impact right away. Before

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Speaker 2: he does that, though, he goes one on one with

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Speaker 2: Doc to Z.

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Speaker 3: Very happy now to welcome the newest member of the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns tackle guard does it all? Titus Howard Titus, Welcome,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you for having me. Man. I'm the sited

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Speaker 6: to be a part of Cleveland Browns.

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01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: Were you surprised when you got the news that you

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01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 3: were coming to the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 6: Uh, somewhat but not really.

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01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 13: Kind of had been, you know, talking to my agent

1481
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 13: and you know he kind of let me know how

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01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 13: the process was going, and you know he told me

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01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 13: to Browns and told me coach Warhop was going to

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Speaker 13: be here to o line coach me and don't have

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Speaker 13: a history in Houston. I was like, let's do it all.

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Speaker 3: Right, So let's go back to that. But you're you're

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01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 3: a natural at this. He led me right to it.

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01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 3: So twenty twenty two, George Warhop is your offensive line coach.

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Speaker 3: He's now the offensive line coach here and we obviously

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Speaker 3: if you look around, there's whereas Joe Thomas that Joe

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01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 3: Thomas has been here. George Warhop was his offensive line coach.

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Speaker 3: He loves Coach Warhop. What was that experience like in

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Speaker 3: twenty two with Coach Warhop and making it comfortable to

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01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: come here and there are other people Joxy's there was

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01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 3: down there in Houston while you were there? Now our

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: defensive line coach, what was it like with Coach Warhap Man.

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Speaker 6: Coach Warhow is all about ball.

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Speaker 13: He's all about productivity, getting the most out of players.

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Speaker 13: And you know me in twenty twenty two, I feel

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Speaker 13: like it was my turning point in my career. I

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01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 13: started getting the most out of my game and I

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01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 13: got better and Coach it was all because of Coach

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Speaker 13: when he stayed you know, on me every day making

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Speaker 13: sure I was doing everything I.

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Speaker 6: Was supposed to do.

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Speaker 13: He he coaches all the players the same, whether you're

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Speaker 13: the top paid guy or he was a guy on

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Speaker 13: the practice squad. You know, coach always made sure that

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Speaker 13: he took his time to coach all of us the

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Speaker 13: same way and just got a ton of respect for him.

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Speaker 3: Was there one thing that maybe that like, as you said,

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Speaker 3: that's when you thought you really started play your best football.

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Speaker 3: Was there one thing that he did, or one thing

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Speaker 3: that he said, or one thing that you know, he

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01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 3: brought out of you that you thought kind of that

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Speaker 3: was the moment.

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Speaker 13: I would just say, you know, he bringed that that

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Speaker 13: main streak out of everyone. Okay, you know, well his

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Speaker 13: place out of coaching, you gotta be ready to be

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01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 13: nasty on the field, and you know, Woohop's gonna bring

1521
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 13: that out of he. He gonna preach it every day.

1522
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 13: He lived by it. So guys in the room got

1523
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 13: to play that way or you can't play for him,

1524
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 13: you know. And that's the thing about him. And if

1525
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 13: you can't match his intensity, it's gonna be tough for

1526
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 13: you in that room. But he's a great coach. He

1527
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 13: got all the players I've known that play for him.

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01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 13: Got a ton of respect for him. Uh So I'm

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 13: ready for that.

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 6: That's good.

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01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm sure he's obviously, we know he's excited

1532
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 3: to have you here.

1533
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 6: What do you think about you that?

1534
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 3: Look back at your career. Youve obviously played some time

1535
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 3: at guard, but a lot of time at right tackle

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01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 3: as well.

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 6: Do you have a preference. I prefer tackle more. I

1538
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 6: see that.

1539
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 13: I see myself as a tackle, but you know, over

1540
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 13: my career I've had to move into guard.

1541
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a guy, you know, team first. So

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01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 3: have you guys talked about it yet? Have you said, Hey,

1543
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 3: what's the vision? When there's somebody trades for you, they

1544
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 3: you match the vision?

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01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 6: Division meet for me. Here's play tackle. Let's guess what

1546
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 6: I was traded for. So you know that's what I'm playing.

1547
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: You like to be on the right side, right side?

1548
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, so you know, we kind of talked about that,

1549
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 13: and I'm excited to be somewhere and have some stability

1550
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,480
Speaker 13: and position to be playing. Yeah, so I'm excited.

1551
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: For that former first round pick Alabama State. Yes, sir,

1552
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: have there been Are you the only first round pick?

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 6: For the first round pick?

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, yeah, that's pretty cool. Been in

1555
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 3: the league a long time. I your Instagram post to Houston,

1556
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 3: obviously that was a very special place still is probably

1557
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: to you and your family as well. But is there

1558
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 3: something exciting about, you know, going somewhere new, trying something

1559
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: You've seen the Browns a lot. I feel like we

1560
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 3: played you guys for a while there every single year,

1561
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 3: and one year twice got you in the playoffs as well,

1562
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 3: which you guys had a very good day that day.

1563
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: But is there something exciting about coming to kind of

1564
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: a new challenge and you know, coming from a place

1565
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 3: where you have been to the playoffs as much as

1566
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 3: you've had where you've had playoffs success, like you guys

1567
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: have had to a place where we're trying to get there.

1568
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: We're trying to get that playoff success.

1569
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 13: Is a sighting, man, I'm turned out to be here.

1570
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 13: You know, I feel great about the vision. Me and

1571
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 13: Andrew just got on talking. You know, the vision, you know,

1572
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 13: I feel about the direction of the program is going

1573
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 13: to be good.

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 6: Yeah. I kind of envisioned similar to Houston a couple

1575
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 6: of years ago.

1576
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 13: You know, we was going through our drought playoffs and football,

1577
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 13: and you know, we came to a year we had

1578
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 13: two first round peaks, just like a Browns dude this

1579
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 13: year and we kind of rebuilt the team up and

1580
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 13: I feel I kind of feel like we can do

1581
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 13: that here and I'm excited to be a part of that,

1582
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 13: to come in with winning pedigree, be a leader for

1583
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 13: the guys, and you know, get this.

1584
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 3: Thing going you've had, I would argue one of the

1585
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 3: tougher practice times now certainly down there Daniel Hunter and

1586
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 3: Will Anderson. Right now you get Miles Garrett, which at

1587
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 3: least you don't have to go against Miles Garrett now

1588
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 3: in games, but now you get Miles Garrett. Is that

1589
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: something that you always look forward to? And obviously Alex

1590
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: right played very well for us last year. Is that

1591
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 3: something you look forward to? Kind of that iron sharpening

1592
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 3: iron and getting to get those reps against the guys

1593
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 3: that think goodness hopefully make Sundays a little bit easier.

1594
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 6: Tell guys, I've been through it my whole career.

1595
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 13: I started my career off as rookie having a block

1596
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 13: JJ Watt every every day in practice, every rail, every

1597
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 13: one on one drill. Go to From that, you go

1598
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 13: to Jonathan Grenard, Jonathan Grenard to Will Anderson, Will Anderson,

1599
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 13: Danil So I've been I've been doing this my whole career,

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01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 13: and I think that's like you said something a little

1601
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 13: by as Sharper's iron like, going against those guys every

1602
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 13: day of practice, it is only gonna make the game easier. So,

1603
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 13: you know, going against Will and Daniel every day, I

1604
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 13: practice those guys with two of the best guys in

1605
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 13: the league. When I got out there on Sundays, it

1606
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 13: was easy for me. So I got to tell you,

1607
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 13: I got a ton of respect for those guys. We're

1608
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 13: actually gonna have to play those guys this year, so

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01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 13: I'm excited for that game. I'm looking forward to is

1610
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 13: that when you circle, you circle that sure, yeah, absolutely right,

1611
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 13: you know, but I got a ton of respray for

1612
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 13: those guys over there. I know to work those guys

1613
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 13: put in. But you know, to go against Miles Gayer

1614
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 13: every day, the type of player he is. I played

1615
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 13: against him a couple of times. I know it's gonna

1616
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 13: be work. I'm ready.

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01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, so, well gonna work.

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01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,640
Speaker 3: We're excited to see it, and that's part of the

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01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 3: fun thing.

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: One thing that's gonna be interesting here the softseason is

1622
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: as of now, it's been saying we're gonna have a

1623
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,879
Speaker 3: quarterback competition. You happen to know one of those quarterbacks

1624
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 3: pretty well who played pretty darn good football with you

1625
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 3: down there in Houston. And Deshaun Watson, are you kind

1626
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 3: of excited to get back with him and see kind

1627
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: of where this takes you, guys now in another iteration.

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01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,879
Speaker 6: So yeah, me and Deshaun I have a good relationship.

1629
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 13: We used to hang all the time in Houston, met

1630
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 13: him and Tombs and the guys used to hang out

1631
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 13: and stuff like that. Deshaun is a great guy, a

1632
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 13: ton of potential. You know, we know what he can

1633
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 13: do on the field. I'm glad to see he's he's here,

1634
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 13: He's back healthy now and you know, decided to see

1635
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 13: them boys compete, man and work. I know, I'm all,

1636
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 13: I'm gonna do everything I can up front to give

1637
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 13: them all the time and.

1638
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 6: The day to do what they gotta do.

1639
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: Do you like pass blocking or run blocking more?

1640
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 13: I like Bob, but I like pass blocking more, you know,

1641
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 13: because it's just something about being in space against those

1642
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 13: guys and being able to block him and space out

1643
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 13: of tackle.

1644
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 5: You know.

1645
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 13: I feel like when people see do that, they know

1646
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 13: how hard it is to do. And if you're a

1647
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 13: guy who can be a really good pass block and block.

1648
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's good for your career, it's good

1649
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:34,759
Speaker 3: for a lot of things, good for your bank account,

1650
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 3: it's good for a lot of things. In the NFL, well,

1651
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 3: we talked earlier mentioned Joe Thomas. As we're sitting here,

1652
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,560
Speaker 3: he's over there the Hall of Famer. He's gonna be

1653
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 3: around a lot. And I don't know if he's somebody

1654
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 3: whose tape you ever watched in the past, but I'm

1655
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 3: sure he will make himself available to you.

1656
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, Coach Warhap used to talk about him all the time,

1657
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 13: you know, and you know, the vertical said, the vertical set,

1658
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 13: that's his game.

1659
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 6: That's something I watched that.

1660
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 13: I used to watch them when I was in college

1661
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 13: because I used to vertical set all the time in

1662
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 13: college when I first because when I first started playing

1663
01:14:59,280 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 13: for the line.

1664
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 6: Knew nothing about it.

1665
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 13: So like I would just go on YouTube and type

1666
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 13: in Bess offensive tackles in the NFL, and Joe Thomas

1667
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 13: show up, Tyron Smill, those guys will show up. So

1668
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 13: I was used to like learn from a lot of

1669
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 13: them and watch them as you know, transition to playing

1670
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 13: offense line because I was playing tight end at the time,

1671
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 13: and then moved off of salone.

1672
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:19,959
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm looking.

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 13: Forward to meet them in person, and you know, to

1674
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 13: pick his brain and learn whatever I can learn, because hey,

1675
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 13: you can never know enough, you know, so as much

1676
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 13: as I can learn from him, and then he can,

1677
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 13: you know, put some knowledge on me, I will listen.

1678
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,759
Speaker 3: Well, he's a scientist about two things. Obviously, playing tackle,

1679
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: playing tackle, the National Football League, and meet I don't

1680
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 3: know if you're a meat eater or not, but he's

1681
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 3: got his own beef cell.

1682
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 6: You're going to be.

1683
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 3: You'll be in very good hands. Those are the two

1684
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 3: things that he's most passionate about right now. So as

1685
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 3: you come here to Cleveland, then obviously kind of your story,

1686
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 3: come first only first round pick in the history of

1687
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 3: your college. That's pretty darn cool. Seven years in Texans

1688
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 3: now hear it, come to Cleveland. What's something you want

1689
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 3: Browns fans to know about? You're not necessarily about you

1690
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 3: as a player, if that's what you want it is,

1691
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 3: that's fine, But something you want Browns fans to know about,

1692
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: you know, when they see Howard on the back of

1693
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: your jersey, that that that's something you want them to think.

1694
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 13: About, Yes, sir, when they see how on the back

1695
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 13: of their jersey. They just gotta know a guy who's

1696
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 13: gonna do whatever he got on the field to win,

1697
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 13: you know, a guy who's the team first guy, stand

1698
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 13: up guy. You know, everyone around the building going to

1699
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 13: see what type of person I.

1700
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 6: Am day in the day out. You know, I'm gonna.

1701
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 13: Try to be a best leader I can be on

1702
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 13: the field and all to feel if any guys need me,

1703
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 13: I'm always here for him. As far as fans, you know,

1704
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 13: I'm gonna try to be a positive role model outside

1705
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 13: of football in the community to you know, help those

1706
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 13: are the less fortunate, you know, because at the end

1707
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 13: of the day, I come from a background with being

1708
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 13: less fortunate. So whatever I can do to you know,

1709
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 13: reach out to people in the community and they see

1710
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 13: that side of me.

1711
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 6: You know, I'm looking forward to that.

1712
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: Well, we're certainly looking forward to seeing you on the

1713
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 3: field and very happy to have you here in Cleveland.

1714
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 6: Tis.

1715
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for the time, and welcome to the

1716
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns.

1717
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: better or worse, higher or lower. In honor of March Badness,

1728
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 2: We're gonna rank the top ten upsets in NCAA tournament history.

1729
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: So this is a bold one. What's the one that

1730
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 2: hurt you guys the most?

1731
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 3: Oh, Santa Clara beating Arizona in nineteen ninety three, for

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01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 3: sure for me, for young young Nate Zago, peak of

1733
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 3: Zago's powers, Arizona basketball number one, Baby, you'd that was?

1734
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 3: That was my time? Now they would go on to

1735
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 3: win the national title a couple of years late, a

1736
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 3: couple of years later, ninety seven, right, it was yeah,

1737
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: ninety six in the night.

1738
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, ninety eight.

1739
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 3: Maybe now it'd be ninety five into ninety six, Okay,

1740
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 3: because I was in college at Emory, so.

1741
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: Ninety five UCLA, I think they won. Sure, I'm going

1742
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 2: to say it's ninety six ninety seven because UCLA is

1743
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: a national champ in ninety five. Ninety six is Kentucky,

1744
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: ninety seven is Arizona. Ninety eight is Kentucky. That's the

1745
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 2: way I have it in my mind's eye.

1746
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 3: You might be right, because I was still in Atlanta

1747
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 3: at that time. Ninety four was Arkansas, ninety seven that

1748
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 3: makes sense, Yeah, ninety six and ninety seven, Yeah, so

1749
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 3: I was still I was still in Atlanta. I was

1750
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 3: in Atlanta.

1751
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 6: Yep.

1752
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a great time. They breathed Kansas, North

1753
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 3: Carolina and Kentucky first teemed to ever defeat three one

1754
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 3: seeds in a trimmer? Are they still the only? Has

1755
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 3: anybody else on that?

1756
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know? I know, I mean rarely. It doesn't

1757
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: happen as more because we have more upsets now than

1758
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 2: we ever have. I mean, the last decade, the tournament

1759
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: has netted a ton of upsets, and we go over

1760
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: some of these big ones, and there's a lot of

1761
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: critical ones. I loved Kansas growing up, and they they

1762
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 2: had there's a ton of them for them. Ali Farochemanesh

1763
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: beat them with Northern Iowa once when they were a

1764
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 2: very good seed, they lost the elite. I'm sorry they

1765
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 2: lost in the second round to Rhode Island the year

1766
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: after they'd lost to Arizona when they were the number

1767
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: one overall seed. The following year with rayfel Friends and

1768
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce, they lost to Rhode Island with Catino Mobiley

1769
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 2: and Tyson Wheeler. So those are some bad ones. The

1770
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 2: one that hurt me the most personally was when Ohio

1771
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 2: State was the number one overall seed in two thousand

1772
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,759
Speaker 2: and eleven and they were playing They played the first

1773
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: set of games here and then they went to Newark,

1774
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: and I remember when the select when the draw came out,

1775
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 2: the only thing that was kind of a problem for

1776
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 2: that Ohio State team was length. So that was Jared

1777
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 2: Sollinger's freshman year. He was a consensus All American, Deebler

1778
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 2: and Lighty and Beaufort and all those guys, Aaron Kraft,

1779
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: and the only thing that they didn't have was length.

1780
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 2: And Jean Smith, the athletic director at Ohio State, was

1781
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: the selection chair. And when the brackets came out, they

1782
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 2: had Kentucky and North Carolina in their regional. Kentucky was

1783
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 2: the four seed, Carolina was the two those are the

1784
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: two longest teams in the tournament, and they put them

1785
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: both in their regional and Brandon Knight hit a shot

1786
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: in the lane that gave Kentucky a two point lead,

1787
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: and then William Beauford missed a shot at the buzzer

1788
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: that would have won it for Ohio State. But they

1789
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: were the number one overall seed and they were bounced

1790
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,520
Speaker 2: in the sweet sixteen.

1791
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 3: So it's not on this list that we have here.

1792
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 3: The other one that didn't hurt me personally, but when

1793
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: you say tournament upsets, the one that immediately comes to

1794
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 3: my mind as Princeton beating UCLA. Yes, yeah, that like

1795
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 3: to me was the most shocking. That was a was

1796
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: that the Obannon.

1797
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 2: Brothers, the Abandon brothers won it in ninety five, so

1798
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 2: that was probably ninety six when they were trying to repeat.

1799
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: Would be my guess that would have been like Toby

1800
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: Bailey was a sophomore in Charles O'Bannon and those guys

1801
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: would have probably been that group where they just backed

1802
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: doored him to death.

1803
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1804
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Princeton almost beat Georgetown. That would have been a six.

1805
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 3: So that was a thirteen to four and they beat

1806
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 3: him forty three to forty one. That felt like a

1807
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 3: bigger deal.

1808
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: Well, because they were defending champs. Do I have that right?

1809
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: That was ninety six.

1810
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 3: It was ninety six.

1811
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they were defending champs, and so there was

1812
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of like people thinking that that would happen.

1813
01:20:57,080 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: Which one hurt you the most? Gibbet anything, Duke.

1814
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I've got a little mercer, I've got LEI Yeah,

1815
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 4: that stupid game. By the way, those fans calling for

1816
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: Duke the other night as they were winning. Okay, that's fine.

1817
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 4: I'd like a rematch. I'd like to make that well again.

1818
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety six, I was a freshman at Bowling Green

1819
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 4: State University. Earl Boykins beat him eight, nine game. Derek Diles, Wow,

1820
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 4: Duke team Duke was eight seed.

1821
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 2: The cow got you Hurley senior year. That's right, I'll

1822
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 2: tell you the one from the Duke perspective.

1823
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 3: Wasn't that Like was that the good cow?

1824
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: It was fresh But Duke was a one or a

1825
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 2: two seed and they were like an eight or a whatever.

1826
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 4: Like it was ninety three.

1827
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the year. Because then the ninety four

1828
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: they got back to the final Grand Hills senior year

1829
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 2: lost to Arc Corlis Williamson in Arkansas.

1830
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 3: All that.

1831
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 2: The the one of you know, the the other ones

1832
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: that are that are really painful historically, or like Duke

1833
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 2: beating UNLV when UNLV was undefeated, because that would have

1834
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 2: been history and it would have been back to back.

1835
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 2: And that's the best college basketball team I've ever seen.

1836
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: Where those those that UNLV team. And then the other

1837
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: one that doesn't get talked about as much. Kentucky went

1838
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 2: to the Final four in twenty fourteen undefeated and lost

1839
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: to Frank Kamiski and Wisconsin. And if they played ten times,

1840
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,240
Speaker 2: Kentucky wins nine. Devin Booker didn't even start on that

1841
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: team that was here. Oh that game was here. No, No,

1842
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 2: not the regional to get him to their final.

1843
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the sweet sixteen in the in the regional were here,

1844
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 4: and I remember looking at that Kentucky team going, how

1845
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 4: are they Like? They've got all these great players and

1846
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 4: there was no wow factor whatsoever with them. They almost

1847
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 4: they should have gotten beat twice when they were here.

1848
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 2: So that was Karl Anthony Towns, the Harrisons and then

1849
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: and Devin Booker and all those guys were on that team.

1850
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 3: All right, Cal beat when Cal beat Duke. Duke was

1851
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: an eleven point favorite in that game. To cool, Basketball

1852
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 3: Reference has all that the those like what was and

1853
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 3: everything Duke was the they should have that. That does

1854
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: not appear second round. It's a second round matchup. Duke

1855
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 3: was twenty four and seven. Cal was twenty one and eight. Yeah,

1856
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: they should have that. Siege should be there.

1857
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: That's old. I got it.

1858
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 3: Three six three six.

1859
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh three six. So it was a sweet sixteen game.

1860
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 3: This says Midwest second round.

1861
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: But he would have to be no, you know, two

1862
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: three would play in the Sweet sixteen, so that would

1863
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: be a second second round. So three six, So that

1864
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 2: wasn't that crazy?

1865
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 3: Like and then you listen when you lose to a

1866
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 3: team that's got Jason Kidd and Lamon Murray in the

1867
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 3: college basketball Like, what.

1868
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: Would I just say about Santa Clair Arizona the guard

1869
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: for Santa Clair Steven We didn't know who Steve Nash

1870
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: was at the time. We found out later for who

1871
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: he was, but we had no idea who he was.

1872
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: Lamon Murray goes for twenty eight and ten. It's eleven

1873
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 3: of seventeen from the floor. Jason Kidd goes for eleven,

1874
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 3: fourteen assists and eight boards and four steals.

1875
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: This dad's a duke.

1876
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 3: That's Bobby Hurley, Grant Hill, Thomas Hill, Antonio Lang Cherokee Parks.

1877
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: Well they're going for three straight national titles. So they

1878
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 2: won the previous two and then they're going for three.

1879
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 4: Graduated.

1880
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, the funny thing about this Cal team. Todd Bosman

1881
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 3: was the coach of course. Well he lasted like Brian Hendrick,

1882
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: Alfred Grigsby and kJ Roberts. Had to be like, how

1883
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: in the world are we playing on a team with

1884
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: Jason Kidd and Lamon.

1885
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 2: Well, no, their whole class was loaded. He basically had

1886
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: like a fab five he had. I think a lot

1887
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: of those guys were freshmen, were they as j Kid

1888
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 2: was a freshman. Yeah, they had a class of young

1889
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: guys that were kind of it was it was kind

1890
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: of like a it wasn't a fast year. Were we

1891
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: saying this one? This would have been ninety three, Cow

1892
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: ninety two ninety three.

1893
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,759
Speaker 3: Brian Hendrick was a senior. Let's see if Alfred Griggsby,

1894
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 3: I've just never heard of either any of those guys. Yeah,

1895
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: Griggsby would have been a sophomore.

1896
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 2: So and Murray was a year older than kid. If

1897
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: memory serves, I think Murray was a sophomore. Kid was

1898
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 2: a freshman. That's right. Yeah, So they had a couple

1899
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: of recruiting classes back to back. Yeah, that were that.

1900
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: But they were six Like it wasn't Yeah, they weren't terrible. No, No,

1901
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: I think the loss last year for Duke is one

1902
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: of the worst. When you look at what Kannepple and

1903
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg are doing, I think that's goodness.

1904
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: That's they couldn't bound the ball.

1905
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the one they couldn't make, Like, couldn't

1906
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,919
Speaker 2: Leg's averaging twenty seven a game in the NBA Canupples,

1907
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: shooting better than anybody ever as a rookie, and they

1908
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: somehow lose. I mean to me, that's a brutal one

1909
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: on this list. So we've had two sixteen ones in

1910
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 2: the last decade, Fairley Dickinson over Purdue in twenty twenty

1911
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 2: three and then Maryland Baltimore County beating Virginia in twenty eighteen.

1912
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 2: What's cool about UVA is they win it the next year.

1913
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: So they lose it in twenty eighteen, then they win

1914
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: it the next year. Of these I would go back

1915
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: to one of those ones in the nineties because at

1916
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 2: that or even like oh one like Hampton beating Iowa State.

1917
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: That's Marcus Say, Marcus Fraser I think was the guard,

1918
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: the forward from Iowa State. They had a couple of

1919
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: pros on that team. Iowa State losing as a two fifteen.

1920
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: That one jumps out some of these ones that have

1921
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: happened recently. Some of this is a product of one

1922
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: and done versus twenty two and twenty three year olds. Yes,

1923
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: guys who have played together teams. Shocking to me at

1924
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 2: this point. I think there are some other ones that

1925
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:26,879
Speaker 2: were the ones.

1926
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 3: In the nineties are Yeah, because getters, Yeah, those are

1927
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 3: the ones.

1928
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 2: When you look, it just seemed impossible for those teams

1929
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 2: to lose.

1930
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 3: By the way Cal beats Duke and then the next

1931
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,440
Speaker 3: week they go on or the next game they play Kansas,

1932
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 3: Kansas ends up losing to North Carolina. I want to

1933
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: say in that either the final four of the.

1934
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: Regional they lose to North Carolina in the final four.

1935
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: North Carolina beats Michigan in the final. That's christ that's

1936
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: Chris Weber Mantra. Do you remember who was on this

1937
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: Kansas team. This is the nineties, that's ninety three. I

1938
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,839
Speaker 2: would say that's Jock Vaughan. No, then it would be

1939
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 2: before that Island. Oh yeah, yeah, before Jack Vaughan. Like

1940
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 2: Mark Randall maybe on that team.

1941
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 3: No, the best player on the team, or at least

1942
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,599
Speaker 3: the best scorer on the team. And just by looking

1943
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 3: at a couple of game box scores, but I remember

1944
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: his name. He's the one whose name I remember is

1945
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 3: rex Walters.

1946
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: Oh, rex Walters. He was a Cal transfer, I want

1947
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,440
Speaker 2: to say, started at Cal, ended up at at Kansas.

1948
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: So then the garden next to him was it a

1949
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,560
Speaker 2: Donnas Jordan Donnas Jordan rex Walters in the backcourt. I

1950
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 2: guarantee you Mark Randall's on the team. He's got to

1951
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: be on the team.

1952
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 3: The ten players who played on in this particular game

1953
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: where Donnas Jordan rex Walters starters were Donnas Jordan rex Walters,

1954
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: Richard Scott, Eric Pauley uh and Darren Hancock. The top

1955
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 3: three three guys on the bench who played Steve Woodberry,

1956
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 3: Patrick Ritchie and Greg Oaster. Tag the youngsters a tag

1957
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 3: off the bench, not even a starter, well.

1958
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: He was, he would have been there a senior the

1959
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: year that they lost to Arizona.

1960
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 3: He would have been maybe a freshman that was his

1961
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 3: sophomore year. Yeah, and then he became a full time

1962
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 3: starter that very next year.

1963
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, it's a I love it. And by

1964
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: the way, Rex, it's pretty amazing.

1965
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 3: Right, was a Northwestern transfer.

1966
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: So who's Jared hass Is the cow transfer. Yeah, he's

1967
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: the one who went from cal to Kansas's what's pretty

1968
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 2: crazy about this is that this stuff happened thirty some

1969
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 2: years ago and it's still this branded into our minds. Yeah,

1970
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 2: to even remember some variety of it is pretty crazy.

1971
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 2: It's crazy, and it speaks to how different the sport

1972
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: was then. Yes, now I do think this tournament that's

1973
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: going to take place next week is going to be

1974
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 2: unbelieable because this freshman class is unbelievable and the transfer

1975
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 2: porter has made some really good teams. But in those days,

1976
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 2: you got a guy for three and four years yea

1977
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: were teams. Yeah, I mean Grant Hill played four years

1978
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 2: at Duke, probably been the first pick in the draft

1979
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: after his sophomore year, but played he played four years. Yeah,

1980
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, so just a totally different sport and you

1981
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,959
Speaker 2: got to know guys, you know, we don't get that anymore. So, yeah,

1982
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 2: I love it though. I love the tournament. I absolutely

1983
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 2: love it, Florida Gulf Coast.

1984
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, part of it is that we I also think

1985
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 3: my consumption of sports was very different back then. I

1986
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 3: think a lot of our consumption of sports were very different.

1987
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 6: Back then.

1988
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: We didn't have anything else. No, we didn't have screens,

1989
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 2: we didn't have Xbox, we didn't have these things.

1990
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 4: We had one channel showing the NCAA tournament and me

1991
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 4: with the USA today with all sixty four teams and

1992
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 4: their and their capsules, trying to figure out who.

1993
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 2: Who is who? You're exactly right, Yeah, you couldn't because

1994
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 2: at that and for when we were kids, there wasn't

1995
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: even an ability to watch everything. You couldn't even buy it,

1996
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 2: like you got the game, you got yep, and that

1997
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: was it. Yeah, so it's uh, yeah, it's wild.

1998
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy. My my late eighties, early nineties sports

1999
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 3: knowledge is so much better than what happened this year.

2000
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Oh, there's no doubt. Yeah, babe, it's

2001
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 2: what you did totally. It's what you did, and what

2002
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,639
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2003
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2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
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