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Speaker 1: As you all know, we have Candice Parker. She has

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Speaker 1: like having that conversation, Um, that was really tough, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you. And I do think it was

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Speaker 1: one of those things where kind of surpassed my expectations.

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Speaker 1: Like I remember when I decided to go, and it

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Speaker 1: was just like on Twitter and on Instagram it was

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Speaker 1: a way bigger deal than I thought it was going

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Speaker 1: to be. And I just remember, the hardest conversation is

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Speaker 1: when you're not going back and you have to call somebody.

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Speaker 1: And I have a tremendous relationship with Eric Columan, and

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Speaker 1: it was difficult for me to call and tell him,

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Speaker 1: you know, um, but I wanted to tell him, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have it break and you know,

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Speaker 1: be all over. So I just think that that was

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Speaker 1: the difficult part. I don't know if it was just

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Speaker 1: the respect. I mean, yes, but at the same time,

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Speaker 1: it was just happiness, you know, like I felt like

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Speaker 1: I was gonna be happy in Chicago. So my book goes,

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Speaker 1: my boob, this is such a biased interview, and I

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Speaker 1: don't hear nobody's mouth. So my book goes to Chicago,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very happy and you locked in and I'm

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Speaker 1: one of a thousand people text and you talk about

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come to a game. You're a bitch. I

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Speaker 1: kind of tickets like I'm calling me not her words,

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Speaker 1: not her words, But I know how busy it is

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Speaker 1: that I get it, but I just wanted I was

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Speaker 1: just like I called Christine, who is a friend of ours.

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Speaker 1: Everyone who's listening, and we'll tag Christine in this episode,

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Speaker 1: um CEO of the Academy and our called Christine. It's like, okay, great,

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Speaker 1: I got a great idea. Let's go on Sunday. This

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Speaker 1: is because you guys want on it Sunday. I got

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Speaker 1: a great idea. Let's go on Sunday to watch our

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Speaker 1: buo play in Chicago. I think it'll be great. Given

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Speaker 1: us time to blah blah, She's like an even better idea.

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Speaker 1: We already got tickets. If you want to join us

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Speaker 1: and maybe hook us up as well, then you can

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Speaker 1: meet us. And I was like, okay, okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So we go, we watch you play, and here's my favorite.

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Speaker 1: As you all know, Chicago Skuy lost one game and

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Speaker 1: that happened to be bad leg carry game to give

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Speaker 1: it our bad luck asses. Okay, I brought that battle

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Speaker 1: overtime over, thank god, but we stuck. But the point

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Speaker 1: of the matter is is that I bought a bad

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Speaker 1: mojo and I'm sorry. Watching you play though, for me

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Speaker 1: as a media member, I felt like and someone could

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Speaker 1: say different, someone can even say when you won in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, it was different. But I felt like, finally

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Speaker 1: and no matter how you say what you want to say,

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Speaker 1: the things that happened, it could have been different. But

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Speaker 1: watching you play against the Mercury was to me, not

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Speaker 1: you per se, but just the finals were special. It

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Speaker 1: felt special, didn't feel special to you, didn't feel like, oh,

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Speaker 1: everybody's paying attention. I don't know what where the ship came.

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Speaker 1: I know we're on what year twenty six of the

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Speaker 1: w B A and seven? What do you last year?

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Speaker 1: But next year? So I'm always adding one more. Okay, so,

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Speaker 1: but it felt special. It took years, but didn't it

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Speaker 1: feel special? And like everybody finally like respected you all?

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Speaker 1: Or no? Was that just me watching? No? It definitely

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Speaker 1: felt different this year. I mean I've been a part

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Speaker 1: of you know, you're at fifteen and you're at twenty

484
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Speaker 1: you're twenty five now, and where they bring back and

485
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Speaker 1: honor the players, and it was like even the stuff

486
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Speaker 1: was different, like we got a ring last time. This

487
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Speaker 1: time we gotta jacket into Louis Vuitton. Like it was

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Speaker 1: like look at look at growth. You know, like I

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Speaker 1: just feel like everyone was watching people who didn't people

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Speaker 1: I know, I have a like a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: we got you live in l A. You know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in the know not and you know

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Speaker 1: the famous people were like we're on a barny and

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Speaker 1: watched w BA game w'st the finals. I'm like, why,

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Speaker 1: how couldn't body do that? Really? Tell me? Like who

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Speaker 1: are you interested in? I mean, listen, this is the

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Speaker 1: time is the time is now, honestly, and that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: The time is now. And I think it's there's a

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Speaker 1: bitter sweet part of it because I feel so much

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Speaker 1: joy watching the game grow and watching it get to

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Speaker 1: where it should be. And I think the the other

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Speaker 1: part is just I feel sadness because for me, my

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Speaker 1: journey's coming to an end, you know. Um so I

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Speaker 1: think I feel I'm glad that it's I'm glad I've

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Speaker 1: had a hand in this, because I definitely wanted to

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Speaker 1: leave the game better. However, it's like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like I wish it would have been like this.

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Speaker 1: When I was a year two or three, I interviewed

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Speaker 1: Don's Daily and I asked her, this is literally just

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Speaker 1: a week and a half ago and we just aired it,

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Speaker 1: and I said, what do you think of what just happened?

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Speaker 1: Like how special? She was like, it was special. Those

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Speaker 1: girls can who they ball And she was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't even think I have it. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: think you could. I think you're ball with him. I

516
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Speaker 1: think you get rough and tough with the girl. She

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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's different. It's you know, there's the

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Speaker 1: nuance of the game. The game has changed in nuanced ways,

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Speaker 1: but fundamental. She's like, yeah, I got it, and she too,

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00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: was just like it was Candice, I don't think you

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Speaker 1: understand it because you're in the middle of it, and

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Speaker 1: I understand what it feels like to have a lot

523
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Speaker 1: coming at you so you can't process it all at once.

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Speaker 1: But it was his story and when you when you

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Speaker 1: produced the special about the Olympics and the women, like,

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Speaker 1: that's what this will be. When you do the doc

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Speaker 1: on this, it will be what you went through, why

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Speaker 1: you decided to leave, and what it meant and how

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Speaker 1: people were invested. What the w n b A has

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Speaker 1: always been missing, in my opinion, are these personal stories

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Speaker 1: where people are invested and they were invested in your

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Speaker 1: personal story of what you did. And while I heard

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Speaker 1: from someone that we know closely that she was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just about to go home and win a chip.

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Speaker 1: You said that, my g what I'll call you didn't work.

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Speaker 1: You said that, you said that, you said that before

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Speaker 1: ship went down. Y'all breaking news exclusive here on Naked

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Speaker 1: She was like, I'm going home to win a chip. Correct. Yeah,

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00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: it was always the the goal and the feeling. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I'm a big believer and put into the universe, um,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also a big believer in like you know,

542
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Speaker 1: sometimes it's like the energy is the way it's supposed

543
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Speaker 1: like it's supposed to happen. Like it's almost like the

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Speaker 1: it like wills its way. And even when we went

545
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Speaker 1: through the adversity that we went to through, I mean

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Speaker 1: we were two and seven at one point. Um, yeah,

547
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Speaker 1: we were bad for a while. Like it was just

548
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Speaker 1: like all of us still showed up to the gym

549
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: and worked out. Allie quickly best shooter in the entire

550
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Speaker 1: world showing up, I could join their breakfast club and

551
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: we shot together, and you know, god a relationship, like

552
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Speaker 1: in terms of just built a relationship with Khalia Copper

553
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Speaker 1: and just watching her kind of explode onto the scene.

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Speaker 1: You know. For me personally, I think it was just

555
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Speaker 1: kind of like it was supposed to happen, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we just had to do our part. And Lander

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Speaker 1: salutes one of the best point guards to ever play

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Speaker 1: the game. Uh, And I think that the world woke

559
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: up inside and so to be able to, like, I guess,

560
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Speaker 1: have my story be a part of so many other

561
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: stories that are just so great. I think, Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: people fall in love with the story, and they also

563
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Speaker 1: fall in love with getting a no new people. And

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00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: I think the world got to know Kalia Copper and

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00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: Corney vanderslot if you were sleeping under rock and didn't

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Speaker 1: know how she played. And Stephanie Dolson and ali Qui

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Speaker 1: every everyday You're welcome. Thank you, You're welcome the world.

568
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: I will say this anybody listening. That's the perfect teammate

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Speaker 1: answer because you you dishing it out point. Are you

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Speaker 1: making sure everybody get off love? And I respect you

571
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: for that because that is a true story. It was not.

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Speaker 1: That's what I love about us. That's how we play like,

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00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: that's how you play, and that's how we should play.

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Speaker 1: On the other side of the break, we talked to

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Speaker 1: Candice about whether or not she's gonna retire. I hope

576
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Speaker 1: not find out when we come back. Every champion and

577
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Speaker 1: care every Chappi is to be a champion, a Chappi

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Speaker 1: and they carry Chappi and they care with Chappion. Champion

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Speaker 1: and carry Chappi and they carry Chappi sports and then

580
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Speaker 1: the team making they can work Chappion and carry Chappi.

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Speaker 1: Is to be a Chappion, a champion. They carry Chappi

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Speaker 1: and the Chappi and they care with Chappi and they care.

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Speaker 1: We had to pay our bills. We appreciate y'all staying

584
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Speaker 1: with this you know your girl needs all of her

585
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Speaker 1: change so she can be cute in the streets. Those

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Speaker 1: bills need to be paid without further Ado, w NBA Champion,

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Speaker 1: two times w NBA Champion, can't this pooka all naked?

588
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: I hesitated to talk about what I thought wasn't fair.

589
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: And I think during the finals a lot I saw

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00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: some things that just weren't fair. Because you are my friend,

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00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: and I know that people know you're my friend, but

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00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: I can't point out what's not fair. So I had

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Speaker 1: my um, someone who worked with me. Her dad was

594
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: a NBA reth for about five years. I said, you

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00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 1: watched the finals, give me your take on what happened,

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00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: and she talked about how people were afraid to criticize

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Speaker 1: what went down with one of the greats in Diana Trossi,

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00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: And okay, can I just can I make this statement

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Speaker 1: before you finish your head. I'm sorry, I just gotta

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Speaker 1: make closet. In order for women's basketball, women's sports and

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00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: general to go to the next level, there has to

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00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: be criticism, like if you turn on first take, if

603
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: you turn on just anything, like they're debating on skill.

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00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: They're debating on whether Russell Westbrook is a good fit

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Speaker 1: for l A. They're debating on whether James Harden is

606
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: going to be able to adjust to free throws. They're debating,

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00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, they're talking about Richard Sherman like they're talking

608
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: about these things, and it's like, I don't know if

609
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: it's our culture or what. But even within games where

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would be a successful broadcaster

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Speaker 1: of women's sports because when somebody comes down and makes it,

612
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: takes a terrible shot and doesn't do something within the offense,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, oh, well, you know she's but

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Speaker 1: when you got a good look like to criticize, no,

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Speaker 1: when But I think you cannot. You cannot look at

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Speaker 1: certain things within women's sports and not And I think

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00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: our culture is scared to criticize because we're women, because

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00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: we're women of color, and because of cancel society, you know,

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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: cancel culture, like that's what it is. But it's hurting

620
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: the game and it's hurting the audience. Like if I'm

621
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: looking at a terrible game, terrible possessions, I mean, like

622
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: the way guys call it out on the NBA games,

623
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Like but listen, I just you notice people hate Chuck.

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00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: They watch and maybe pissed. When I got the TNT game,

625
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: they mad because they like, if Chuck criticize me, I'm pissed.

626
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: Chuck tells so many stories you know this about how

627
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: players call him after and be mad at him, be

628
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: ready to fight him. I e. Jmond Green, who loves him.

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Speaker 1: Now you know what I mean. But and so does Katie.

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Speaker 1: Katie just did an interview with him. They want to

631
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Speaker 1: be respected. I feel like I casually mentioned what happened

632
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Speaker 1: with DT, and then there were other people who are

633
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: hardcore players who were like, but media really didn't say anything.

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00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't so much that they didn't care. They felt like,

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Speaker 1: do we talk about her shoving a rough like, not

636
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: once but twice? Do we talk about her um literally

637
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: disrespecting the rough again when they teeter her and she

638
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: trying to set the tone early? Do we talk about that?

639
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: Because you guys just moments ago declared her the go

640
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: I think that if you would ask her, she would

641
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: say the same thing I just said. Okay, criticize it, like,

642
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: critique it, and she's still going to do the same thing.

643
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna behave and be the same way. Like,

644
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: but you gotta talk about it like you talk about

645
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: people falling in love with stories and storylines, and but

646
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: if you don't criticize it or challenge it, then nobody's

647
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: talking about it. There's no debate, there's no barbershop talking

648
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: conversation like, none of that happens. And so it's like,

649
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, I remember when Russell Westbrook and

650
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant we're gonna play each other for the first time,

651
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: when Katie ended up going to Golden State. Do you

652
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: remember the storyline for the for the week and a

653
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: half before that game, it weren't even talking about the

654
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors and Thunder. It was talking about real

655
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: Russell in Katie shake hands like and then it was

656
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: showing their no one cares about the game. Nobody cared

657
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: about the cupcake soft cupcake Katie game out of a

658
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: line of shoes like, yeah, no one cared. It was

659
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: all about the stupid stuff go ahead. It was all

660
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: about that. So our game wants to If our game

661
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: wants to evolve and get to where we say we

662
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: want to get to, then we gotta have those conversations.

663
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: And we had to have people that aren't scared, and

664
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: we can't take a personal as player. But you will people,

665
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: but you will take it personal as players. And that's

666
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: okay because I take it personal. People criticize me, but

667
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: but it's fair. What you're saying to me, what I'm

668
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: hearing is that if you want people interested in if

669
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a sport, and you want

670
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: to and y'all want to be equal citizens, right, make

671
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: the same money, have the same advantages. We have to

672
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: be able to do the same thing, the good, the bad,

673
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: and the correct. I agree with you, And i'd also

674
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: add in that just women functioning in like not a

675
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: smooth situation, like I still have to do an interview

676
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: with whoever if I don't like for sure, you still

677
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: have to interview me, even if you don't like me,

678
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 1: Like I think that those are things too, Like that's

679
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: why they don't criticize this because like the next time

680
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: I walk up and stick a mic in your face,

681
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be mad at me. And it's like, who cares.

682
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: This is your job, this is my job. You gotta criticize. Yeah,

683
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: but God, let me tell you something. You actually all

684
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: be making it hard on us. Kevin Durant hated me

685
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: for a long time and told me I was lost.

686
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: I was like, oh gotcha, thank you, Jeremont saying they

687
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: all like you say something flippant, they don't ever forget.

688
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: They'll give you receipts. They remember when Dwight Howard he

689
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: was like, here, you talk so bad about me when

690
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: I left the Lakers, and I never forget it. When

691
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: I was just like, whoa, that was like three years ago.

692
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: He had receipts, and so it's uncomfortable, but we still

693
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: have to do it. I just want you to know

694
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I but you still have to do it. And and

695
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Now, I'm on both sides. I'm a

696
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: player and I'm that's where I was going next. And

697
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, when I covered the n C

698
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Double A tournament and a specific player didn't play as

699
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: well in the n C Double Tournament and I was

700
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: working out at a gym with him a year later

701
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and his dad he's like, yeah, my dad reminds me

702
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: all the time of like, you know, me not being

703
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: able to make a shot, or me like you criticizing

704
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: my game like that's been on repeat, Like that motivates

705
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: me to wake up. And I'm like, damn if I

706
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: have that impact, Like you're welcome, by the way. That's

707
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: that's okay, So I'll go ahead, give me some of

708
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: that check, sir, go ahead, and I'm just like, yeah.

709
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: But also as media, as long as here's the thing,

710
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: as long as you don't make it personal. And that's

711
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: the that's the line that I think some shouldn't, okay,

712
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: but don't make a person to make it personal. You're

713
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: an artist. So Candice, what do people say about you?

714
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: What's the biggest critique you hear about yourself that you

715
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: try not to stay personal, but you know it's somewhat

716
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: accurate of my game or of my personality because there's

717
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: two different things. Because here's the thing. I don't think

718
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: you should ever criticize something that you don't know, like,

719
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: for instance, like with the Ben Simmons situation. Right, My

720
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: whole issue with this whole thing is that it got

721
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: out house. You have never heard me disclose any conversation

722
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: that I've had with Derek Fisher to me because it

723
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: should stay in house. It should stay between him and I.

724
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Now we may talk about like, Okay, this is how

725
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: I felt, or like whatever, but I'm never gonna come

726
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: out and say something like Doc said or something like

727
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: Joel said, and then the next year you want them back.

728
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: And I understand it's a job, but at the end

729
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: of the day, that should be kept in house. To me, like,

730
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: why are you the same same example with Marcus Smart

731
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: and you can debate all the time, why are you

732
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: telling the media this about Jayson Tatum and you know

733
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown? Like shouldn't I be a conversation that you

734
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: keep in house in the locker room? So I just

735
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: I think my only issue is is then when people

736
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: first of all, take things that out of house that

737
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't be, second of all, make it personal and start

738
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: criticizing character and like personality and stuff that doesn't have

739
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: anything to do with basketball, why do you think doc Okay, no,

740
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go there. I would think doc or

741
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: or Joel said that because they thought something else was

742
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: leaked prior to so they were responding. So you're saying,

743
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: even if something else is leaked prior to, no need

744
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: to respond. Aren't you a better person if you don't?

745
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Like I know this is two wrongs, don't make it right,

746
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: But like so you did so they did that, so

747
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: then you're gonna go back and just do it like

748
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: that's why. I mean, that's the way that's mature a PC.

749
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: When I tell you you're a class act, not even

750
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: politically correct, You're just a class act. You know that,

751
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I just mean like if

752
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: I if I tell you something, you tell my secret,

753
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go spill all the secrets that you just

754
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: told me, just like one up you. I mean to me,

755
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: it's just like you're dropping down and stooping down to

756
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: like their level. Like I'm the type of person like

757
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say hi, hi, or but I'm not gonna

758
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: not be somewhere because somebody is uncomfortable, you know what

759
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean. With that being said, I'm not gonna not

760
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: be somewhere. No, you didn't, by the way, you know

761
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's your that's your take as a broadcaster,

762
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: as a player, and you have a very unique perspective.

763
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: The people who have never played the game consider and

764
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: say whatever they want, and you're right. A lot of grass,

765
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: especially on my part. Thank you for checking me and

766
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: letting me see it differently is personality. No, seriously, that's

767
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: not even so much about you weren't trying to check people.

768
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: But I'm like you're right. Sometimes I do my own

769
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: life his attitude, but sometimes also their attitude also reflects

770
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: how they play on the court, So so they're not

771
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: they're not separate. They usually a lot of cases go

772
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: hand in hand. So you find people criticizing personalities and

773
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: stock and and how and behavior if it affects their

774
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: behavior on the court. I say, let's talking about my boy,

775
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: like my favorite, you're I'll love to Kobe Bryant was

776
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: not loved by many players while he was alive. He

777
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: never maybe once or twice. We know him and Shack

778
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: had that big feud, but he never got I mean

779
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: sometimes he critique people, but people never was like, n't

780
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: fool with Kobe. He's not nice, he don't fool with us.

781
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: That stayed in house, Like I felt like that wasn't

782
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: It was known in our world, but that wasn't really known.

783
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: No one got on camera and was like, how we

784
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: get on No one gets on camera except for now, Scottie,

785
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: please stop it. Michael Jordan gets on my nerves. Very

786
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: few people. Then I understand what you're saying. There's a

787
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: there's a the layers to this and levels. Right, there's

788
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: layers and levels, and I feel as though there's a

789
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 1: certain responsibility as a friend, as a teammate, as a coach,

790
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: as within an organization, as media that when you break

791
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: that trust and you kind of cross that line, there's

792
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: like no going back from it. You know. Um, I

793
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: really love when somebody critiques my game because I'm gonna

794
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: go and show next year what I'm gonna do to

795
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: improve it. But when people critique things that they have

796
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: no idea, the under layer, Like that's like trying to

797
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: get in on family business. You have no idea. The

798
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: layers within family bays that layers that you have to

799
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: pull back with relationships, and you come in, don't don't

800
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, No, No, that's your cousin. You're like, you

801
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: have no idea, Like you know what I mean. So

802
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: it's like the media comes in and tries the critique

803
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: a layer that they have no idea, which is basically

804
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: a fundamental because my thing is is like attitude. Yeah,

805
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: sometimes we're not always correct, you know. Sometimes it's a

806
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: reason why I'm acting this way, or there's a reason

807
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: why you know. Um, but you're right, it does go

808
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: hand in hand on the court, and you do have

809
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: responsibility to do your job. Um, I said, you do, Like,

810
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: I don't care how much my clach passed me off.

811
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta show up and perform, because you

812
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: look stupid if you don't write, nobody knows the underlying meaning.

813
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that I had to get the

814
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: family business. Nobody knows that. And that's the thing, like

815
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: I have gone through so much in my career of

816
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: just being immature and just being like they don't understand

817
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: what's going on behind the closed doors. But I'm going

818
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: out and playing and making myself look stupid because I'm

819
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: mad that something else didn't go my way or because

820
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: of this, or because like a coach did this, and

821
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm mad and I'm making myself look stupid. And so

822
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing is is like you

823
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: show up to work, you're doing a job. All the fans,

824
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: all the media, they don't know the underlying reason why

825
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: you're walking around with your lips poking out and you're

826
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: mad and you're not giving high fives and your energy

827
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: like they don't know that it's a reflection of you.

828
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: And so when I went to Chicago, like I took

829
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: that personal. I was like, I will not whatever happens

830
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: behind closed door. I still am representing me when I

831
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: step out on the court, Like that's and that's what

832
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: everybody sees. You talk about several people in your life

833
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: who I want to talk about that really have influenced you. UM.

834
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: Anybody who's been two minutes talking to you know that

835
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: your dad means a lot to you in terms of

836
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: your game and what he's taught to you. UM. You

837
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: talked about your older brothers. You talk about Pat Summit

838
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: May she also rest in peace. Uh. The year in

839
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: which she passed away, you gave a very emotional interview.

840
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: And she passed away from Alzheimer's, but you gave a

841
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: very emotional interview. That was the year that the Sparks

842
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: want their chip and you and you were like, you

843
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: had a a stellar game that night, like an All

844
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Star game. I'm not like you don't always do that,

845
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: but you really showed up and you play with such

846
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: a heavy heart. My first question is, well, what would

847
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: be or what was Pat's critique about you as a player,

848
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: a w NBA player, not the college player by the

849
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: w n B, A player rebounding UM. And it's like

850
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: it's weird because you know how that you have these

851
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: connections where it's like rebound, like, what exactly is it? Okay,

852
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to get another chance, an opportunity to

853
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: get another possession. It's an opportunity to you know, get

854
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: it back. And I just think that there's so much

855
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: like correlation between what she would critique me off on

856
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: the court that I grew off the court, um rebounding,

857
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: specifically offensive rebounding. She would always, yeah, I'm a good

858
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: defensive rebounder. An offensive rebounding. She was like, anytime you

859
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: go to the boards, you get the rebounds. So like

860
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: in college, like, why don't you go to the boards more?

861
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: And she's like that's energy, that's effort, that's want to.

862
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: And so I just know, like even now when I rebound,

863
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: it's like I like think of her all the time,

864
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, And I just feel as though like it's

865
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: taught me so many lessons off the court, you know,

866
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: just rebounding, getting things back, being better, um, and I

867
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: think that that's helped me like remember her all the time.

868
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What would she have said to you in

869
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: the spot in your decision to go to Chicago? What

870
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: do you think if you had to guess if you

871
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: called her and wanted her advice. Well, first, I think

872
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the thing I missed most about Coach was, like, you know,

873
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: in the years that she wasn't here, is like she

874
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: was my biggest advocate. I mean she was the toughest

875
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: critic on me at Tennessee. I mean nothing was ever

876
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: good enough, but she was also like my biggest advocate.

877
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Like I would hear other people tell me what she said,

878
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Coach said that, like because she would

879
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: never say it to me. Um, And so I forgot

880
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: your question, but I love you. Like if you would

881
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: have called her and said I think I'm leaving, I'm

882
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: I think that she would have answered it, just like

883
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: I called her with every other life decision. You know,

884
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: I remember being scared calling her when I was pregnant

885
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: with Layla and her telling me that I'm going to

886
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: be the greatest mom because I spent my Friday nights

887
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: in Knoxville babysitting kids all the time. And the next

888
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: morning I wake up and there's Tennessee stroller, Tennessee cheer

889
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: leaning outfit, Tennessee football jersey, baby onesies like all this stuff.

890
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: She was so excited for Layla to be born, um,

891
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 1: and I think she would have supported me and really

892
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: been excited about it. You're about to make me cry.

893
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: That's emotional. Wow. And by the way, how vulnerable were

894
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: you because that is scary. You just started your career pregnant.

895
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, what do you do? You

896
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: want to be the greatest mom ever? She she showed.

897
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: I mean, she she really honestly was present wherever she was.

898
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: You felt like you were the only person in the

899
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: world when she was there. And I think Tyler will

900
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: say the same thing in terms about her being a

901
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: great mom. And we felt like she was a great

902
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: coach and a great educator and a great everything because

903
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: we felt like I felt like I was the only

904
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: person in the world when she was where I was.

905
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: And it's like, honestly a gift. And so to watch

906
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: her balance and to set you know, to set a

907
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: schedule in which whatever she was doing was the most

908
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: important thing at that moment, it really taught me like

909
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: how to be a mom. You know, when I'm playing basketball,

910
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm playing basketball and I trust that I've put measures

911
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: in order to make sure my daughter is well taken

912
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: care of. And when I am a mom, I have

913
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: a non negotiable. I picked my daughter up from school

914
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: every day. You know this is my non negotiable, if

915
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: you know. And so I think that being able to

916
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: see her set those things has really like inspired me

917
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: as a career woman, but also as a mom. You're

918
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: so patient as a mother. I watch you with your daughter,

919
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: and you were so patient. Patient you are. You don't

920
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: even and you don't even. You don't even think you are.

921
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: You don't think. You talk to somebody you don't have kids,

922
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: and they watch you and they're like, God, she's so patient.

923
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: You're like, sweetie, think you No, you I'm telling you

924
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: you don't think you are, because somebody and somebody like

925
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: your family may tell you that you're not, or you

926
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: may say be more. You are a patient. I'm working

927
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: no legit, I was trust me. Pat will say, honey,

928
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: you have not even in Layla is a great kid.

929
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: But I just watch you talk to her, the loving

930
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: way in which you handle her, the way that after

931
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: you win a chip, you'd like, where's my baby, Let

932
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: me find her. I want you to know, in the

933
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: most important moment, you matter, like I'm not getting caught

934
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: up in this. You matter, like those things matter like

935
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: that's life changing for her, you know what I mean?

936
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: That would that would mean so much to me. There

937
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: are so many kids who have parents that are famous

938
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: who can't say my mom steps down from the moment

939
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: in which everyone is praising her to find me, to

940
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: let me know that I matter and I should be

941
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: celebrated in this moment. I mean, you're gonna make me cry,

942
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: you made us cry, make me cry, but why would

943
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: you like, are like come here, I'm like really about

944
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: to make me You're really about to make me cry.

945
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm gonna go there because I'm I'm getting

946
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: more in touch with my emotions. Um, my daughter is

947
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: everything to me. I owe her everything, just because I

948
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: think in this world as parents, we think that we're

949
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: teaching them and they teach us. She's taught me what

950
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: unconditional love truly is. And I say that with so

951
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: much love and so much respect and so much appreciation

952
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: because she has been my number one fan that allowing

953
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: me to reach my dreams, Like she's the inspiration. And

954
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: you know, we have this thing where sometimes when she

955
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do homework or sometimes I don't want

956
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: to go get on the freaking peloton I say, like,

957
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for you. You know, I'm getting on

958
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: the bike for you, Like I'm going to get on

959
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: this plane to Atlanta to go to Turner to work

960
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: for you. And it's like it's those moments that are

961
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: I think, are what where I'm most appreciative. You know.

962
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, like when we're celebrating over ruinning championships,

963
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: but it's like those other moments where it's like we're

964
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: just grinding it out and I'm can at you. Or

965
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: we're in China and we're there on Christmas and we

966
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: don't have a family, small outside she can go. We're

967
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: in Russia's minus thirty seven degrees. We're in Turkey, and

968
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: she's flipping and making the best of things. She's making

969
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: friends in Russia. I mean it's like I just waited

970
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: so easy. She's got an easy one. She is my heart.

971
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: She is my absolute entire universe, and I love I

972
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: love her, and I'm so grateful and thankful for her.

973
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: And uh man, she's taught me so much. Um, she's

974
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: taught me to be more patient, if that makes sense. Yeah,

975
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: I hear that all the time. Um, I think that

976
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: would be beautiful. Um, And I say to you, I

977
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: know that being a parent comes with a lot of guilt,

978
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: but you're doing a beautiful job. I mean, she is

979
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: just a lovely child. I to be in the environment

980
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: and have the access and the resources and the privilege.

981
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: She's lovely and humble and it is hard to maintain that.

982
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: So you're doing something right. And that's where I said,

983
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: your patience, UM, talk to me about Larry. So I

984
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: get this, guys, I'm gonna brag. I get these great

985
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: packages from Canadae because she's rich and she has all

986
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: these people working for she's very, very rich, and she's

987
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: not gonna give you, guys any money. I'm gonna ask

988
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: her for two dollars eventually, not yet, I haven't asked yet,

989
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: but I will. But she gives these packages. She sents

990
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: these beautiful care packages, like that that one when you

991
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: went to Chicago to said, take the surprise at your voice.

992
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: I wear that T shirt often. I should award today

993
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: I'd impact it. But take the surprise at your voice.

994
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: We'll get on die you because out shack often and appropriately.

995
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: But UM, you had this JBL speaker system you sent

996
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: out all we're doing. We're doing UM commercials right now,

997
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: and you gave the story about who your dad was

998
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: and how you grew up and it was just beautiful.

999
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: And then I have to the honor of meeting him.

1000
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: He's just a lovely man. Talk to me about his

1001
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: in fluence on you to like growing up, because I

1002
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: know he played basketball, but even now, my dad is

1003
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: one of those guys that like he just has like

1004
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: this like way of thinking, like you do it the

1005
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: right way, you do it, you know, to the best

1006
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: of your ability, like your great your greatest abilities shouldn't

1007
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: be measured with others because sometimes like you get it.

1008
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: He would always say, this one's younger. You get an

1009
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: A on a test. He said, that's a measurement on

1010
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: how you're doing in terms of everybody else. But like

1011
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: was that your best? So like you should measure yourself

1012
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: against yourself. Um. So, Like there would be often times

1013
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: where I'd have like forty in high school or to

1014
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: have like I remember I had like forty two twenty

1015
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: and something crazy, and my dad was like, I mean

1016
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: there was a stretch there where you know, you fancy.

1017
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: He's told me probably like three or four times that

1018
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: he like good game, that he was proud of me.

1019
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: That I played the like his famous thing now is

1020
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: like you're still in search of a perfect game, like

1021
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: he would always he always tells me that. So he

1022
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: was one of those like motivating dads that I knew

1023
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 1: loved me. Like. I just remember as a kid riding

1024
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: home while he would like yell and cuss out my brother.

1025
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: He's about how they couldn't play basketball and how they

1026
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: were terrible and all this stuff. And I remember, just

1027
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: like I guess in a morbid way, like wanting that

1028
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: to be me. Like I remember just being like I

1029
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 1: can't wait till it's my turn and he's critiquing my game.

1030
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: That's just how it was. And I mean my memories

1031
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: are standing far more than basketball. I mean, Saturday mornings,

1032
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: we would get up play basketball, you know, work out.

1033
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: My parents both were a part of the AU program.

1034
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: My mom you know, kept stats and coach my dad

1035
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: coach um. But then on Sundays we'd watch old reruns

1036
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: of you know, World War two and color and we

1037
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: would go to museum ms And I mean he's really

1038
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: big on learning. He always has a you know, a

1039
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: little news stands check out. He always is getting a

1040
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: magazine from there. So I think I've gotten like my learning,

1041
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: like my my need to continue to learn from him. Um.

1042
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: And also it's like I hear myself when I'm parenting Layla.

1043
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Now it's weird, like I hear my dad, you know,

1044
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: talk about you know, like building that desire and and

1045
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: it's crazy. So he's he's an amazing guy, he really is.

1046
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: It just all makes sense to me. I know you

1047
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: haven't written the book, but you will, but it just

1048
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: all makes sense. Just everything just makes sense. I'm just

1049
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm bias, but and I keep saying

1050
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: that because I know I'll I'll go hard on DT

1051
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: and be like, I don't know Candice attitude, her her

1052
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: attitude is great. I don't know what you mean. You

1053
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: got to me to want I don't, No, I won't,

1054
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: I won't. I will be able to do it. And

1055
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: then if I do, I'm like, I'm I'm I'm taking

1056
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: myself out of this. I just qualified because it just

1057
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: all makes sense to me. Like I think about just

1058
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: where you are and you at trajectory, and it just

1059
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: all makes sense. And um, I'm just really really proud

1060
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: of you and so so grateful to be in your orbit. Um.

1061
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: And I don't have any surprise in my voice. You

1062
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: have a podcast called Moments, Tell me about it. It

1063
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: is about parenting. I think parenting for me is um

1064
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: my most important job, and I think it's the job

1065
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: that is the hardest. Um for sure, Yeah, it's the hardest.

1066
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: And so literally I talked to so many different parents

1067
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: about their upbringing and then also Moments. Guys, wherever you

1068
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: get your podcasts, I don't know what is I mean

1069
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: here you are an amazing broadcast, sir. Get guys. I'm

1070
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: talking to the to the actual microphone right now, because

1071
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: this is where the people are listening. Guys, I'm talking

1072
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: in the microphone. I remember when you were like, I

1073
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: think I want to do this, and as when I

1074
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: was at ESPN and I was like, girl, yes, and

1075
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: then you kind of mentioned it to the executives. I'm like,

1076
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: girl yes, and then you're like, let me talk about girl, Ramona,

1077
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: and it was just and now to see you in

1078
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: full circle and I believe and and this isn't biased

1079
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: at a place that allows you to be you and

1080
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: like you grow and they support you and they really

1081
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: believe in you, Like it is so beautiful to watch

1082
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: you flourish in this environment. Um, what are your future plans?

1083
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: Do you do you play for? Do you have this

1084
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: thing where you're like, I would pay for three more years,

1085
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: five more years, ten more years. I'm making up something

1086
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't know and then then I'm gonna do full time.

1087
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: Tell me because I need to know, because most importantly,

1088
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: I need to know where I can borrow the five dollars.

1089
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: When I can borrow the five dollars, neighbors, I'm moving in.

1090
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: You got I'll sleep in. Your office is big enough

1091
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: for me. I can just got lots of dollars here,

1092
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: so I'll know where you listen. And first of all,

1093
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: I know that you're saying all these kind of things

1094
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: about me. I really appreciate your support because I've leaned

1095
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: on you so much throughout the years, and you are

1096
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: always available and you always tell me what I need

1097
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: to hear. Um. And I don't know if you remember this,

1098
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: but you came to a Sparks game and it was

1099
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: the first time I met you. And it was at

1100
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: the Sparks. I mean, I had we had done, you know,

1101
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: met in passing, but it was the first time we

1102
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: ever really had a conversation. And I remember, you know,

1103
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: the Sparks organization was like Carry Champions coming to the

1104
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: game tonight, like whatever. And you are one of those

1105
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: people that when people ask me, like, you know, who

1106
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: are your mentors? Who do you want to be like

1107
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: like you're it's Carry Champion, it's you know, Robin Roberts,

1108
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: it's Michael stringing my people. Those are the three that

1109
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: I honestly have really leaned on and been fortunate enough

1110
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: to have, as you know, roll my holes. But also

1111
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: just like the realness that you that you tell me

1112
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: and that you keep your real with me, and it's genuine,

1113
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: and I think it's really important. You know, we talked

1114
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: about trying to get into rooms, but it really is

1115
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: important to like have a group of friends that we

1116
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: have in those circles that like really uplift and empower

1117
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: and really cheer for, you know, and I think you

1118
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: are one of those people that are really cheer for.

1119
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: So doing that Arena show with you you wanted. First

1120
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: of all, I was like work, you did, all the work,

1121
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: You did all the work, Candice, I wasn't doing a thing.

1122
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: And you talk about your dad, how your dad thinks differently,

1123
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: you think differently, like you just look you triple thread.

1124
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: It's so hard for us to receive compliments. I get it.

1125
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: I hate it. I don't want to hear it. I'm like,

1126
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: thank you, unless you like, unless you're about to be

1127
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: a sugar daddy. I'm trying compliments, but you about to

1128
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: buy me something. I'm trying to hear it. You don't

1129
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: ship sometimes you just don't feel like buying it. You

1130
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: want to leave your cards in your pocket. Do you

1131
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: know how that's? Like? You like, can somebody but leave

1132
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: something today? Buying everybody everything? Everybody buy meet something today.

1133
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know when did this turn

1134
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: to after dark? But are you going to you don't

1135
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: know how long you'm playing? You're not gonna tell this.

1136
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: You haven't thought about it, you've been thinking it. I

1137
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: will know in the off season, okay, just like I

1138
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 1: will know when I can't get up and train. Um,

1139
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: it's coming. Like if I'm betting, I would definitely not say,

1140
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: you know more than two years or two seasons, you know,

1141
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm at peace, Like basketball was so much

1142
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: of my life. Like I used to when I when

1143
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: we would lose, I would lay in bed with Justine,

1144
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: my best friend. We would literally eat oreos and watch

1145
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: television and like drink bad tequila before days. We literally

1146
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: have a morning like we would have mourning, like until

1147
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: one day Leila at four walked in and was like, Mom,

1148
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: are you gonna get out of bed today? You know?

1149
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: Like so it's like I've really taken that and been like,

1150
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: I have to be more than basketball because at some

1151
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: point the loss is going to be basketball. Like it's

1152
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna play anymore, so I gotta do

1153
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: other things. And so I think I am fulfilled, you know,

1154
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: in terms of personal life. I am fulfilled in terms

1155
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: of like off the court stuff. And so when that

1156
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: day does come, I know it's gonna sting, and it's

1157
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: gonna be bitter sweet, and it's gonna hurt and it's

1158
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna suck. But I feel like I'm more prepared for

1159
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: it now than I was, you know, when basketball was

1160
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: the center of my entire universe. I see that and

1161
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: I feel that, and I cannot wait for the next

1162
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: chapter because you already a plant the seeds. It's gonna

1163
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: be special. And I am excited for you. I repeat,

1164
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: I am excited for you. Your story is still being

1165
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: written and it's a beautiful worldful. If you were Candice Parker,

1166
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: would you retire? You want to go out on top

1167
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: with a chip, You're gonna do it like Peyton Payton

1168
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: can play anymore though, So it just was apropos like

1169
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he has say strowing on was done

1170
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: Peyton Mann and can play anymore. He retired done. That's

1171
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: the way you should do it. Walk away, walk away,

1172
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: walk away. He's still on top. Seinfeld walked away, still

1173
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: on top. However, I still think my g has something

1174
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: left in her. But you have to decide what the

1175
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: opportunities are, right, It's not just about whether or not

1176
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: you can still play. Your body can probably do a Candice,

1177
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: not that you're asking for my opinion. Your body can

1178
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: probably do it. It's gonna be work because that's a

1179
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: physical grind, right, I hear that, y'all hear what's happening?

1180
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: When did you hear that little sound? That was me

1181
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: adjusting my bra and I don't here if you leave

1182
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: that part in, it's a physical grind, just like a

1183
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: brawls of physical grind. But I'm sure there are other

1184
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: things that are involved. She hesitated because I felt like

1185
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: she wanted to give me the news but I mean,

1186
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't have to have it. All I can say

1187
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: is we would love to see you, whether you want

1188
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: to do it or not, see how selfish we are

1189
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: as fans. I feel like this year's championship really solidified

1190
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: the w n b A. It's been it's been twenty

1191
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: five plus years, and it really solidified the w n

1192
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: b A, meaning we finally started to respect it. Not

1193
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: we because I loved it, but we're paying attention, were involved,

1194
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: We're invested, we know the players names. Candice was a

1195
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: huge reason for that. Sorry to say that DT huge

1196
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: reason for that. I don't care if it was choreographed.

1197
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: I don't care what people have to say in terms

1198
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: of how the finals played out, meaning the two teams,

1199
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: because the sky definitely one. But it was beautiful and

1200
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: it was good to see, and it was history withness.

1201
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: Her story, witness, her story, her story, not history, her story, witness,

1202
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: Cannice Parker. I love your friend. I love you for

1203
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: being who you are. I love you for inspiring me

1204
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: um and showing us it all can be done. But

1205
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: most importantly, I love you for saying I'm gonna let

1206
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: my storytell itself. I'll remain quiet. That's the biggest takeaway,

1207
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: so damn hard for me to do, but thank you

1208
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: for sharing it and showing it. See y'all next time.

1209
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: A naked