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Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks. It is Thursday, August twenty eighth. She

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Speaker 1: they love her for it. Welcome to this episode of

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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. Robes. This is a story a lot

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Speaker 1: of people will remember. The woman has now been charged.

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Speaker 1: But on its face, without knowing the details the facts

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Speaker 1: of this, that a woman called an eight year old

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Speaker 1: boy the inWORD and then she raised over eight hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars from supporters, that sounds disgusting on its face

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Speaker 1: to some.

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Speaker 2: I think it is disgusting and should be to anyone

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Speaker 2: who's listening. This is a woman. It's not disputed. It's not.

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Speaker 2: She's accused of calling an eight year old black boy,

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Speaker 2: who also has special needs who is autistic, the N

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Speaker 2: word repeatedly, and then harassing a man who called her

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Speaker 2: on it. All caught on video, So again indisputable. The

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Speaker 2: fact that she is now being rewarded significantly, raising nearly

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Speaker 2: now has a new round of pleas out there for

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Speaker 2: more donations because of these charges that have just been

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Speaker 2: against her, she will be able to raise more money.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that she's able to profit off of horrific,

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Speaker 2: hate fueled speech is deplorable. There's nothing that's okay about that.

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Speaker 1: So we will now explain what we're talking about. A

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Speaker 1: lot of you will remember this incident because it did

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Speaker 1: spark protest. National African American organizations got involved in this.

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Speaker 1: But this is a woman by the name of Shiloh Hendrix,

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Speaker 1: yes right, Shiloh Hendrix in Rochester, Minnesota, but in April

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Speaker 1: and an intense at a playground there and little eight

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Speaker 1: year old boy, black boy with special needs, he's autistic, yes,

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Speaker 1: and he was wandering around. He grabbed an apple sauce pack,

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Speaker 1: I believe from another family's bag. So he grabbed, yes,

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Speaker 1: an apple sauce pack that wasn't his. His dad chases

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Speaker 1: and confronts the lady like did you just call him?

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Speaker 1: Did you just call him the inward? She does not

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Speaker 1: infuriating part of it, besides calling the inWORD, is that

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Speaker 1: I called him what he was And all of this

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Speaker 1: But that is the incident we're talking about. But now, Rope,

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Speaker 1: she is facing charges. Yes, it's a misdemeanor, but she

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Speaker 1: is facing charge for what she did, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And she not only didn't she not only said I

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Speaker 2: word repeatedly, repeatedly. I just wanted to point that out.

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Speaker 2: She then goes on camera and says it to the

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Speaker 2: just NonStop. So it was appalling, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: And it's still out there people. It's bleeped out, thankfully,

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Speaker 2: that is there. So yes, she is now being charged,

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Speaker 2: and she's now using the fact that she's being charged

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Speaker 1: Okay, so the charge is misdemeanor, but still it's a

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Speaker 1: misdemeanor disorderly conduct for as they say, wrongfully and lawfully

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Speaker 1: engage in offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous or noisy conduct, or

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Speaker 1: to alarm, anger, or RESI and others. That's fair.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that all reads.

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Speaker 1: It was the language she did. Now when she did

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Speaker 1: this back in April, Like you said, Ros, she's now

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Speaker 1: had a couple of rounds of fundraising. It's almost like

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Speaker 2: Tied to headlines.

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Speaker 1: Right, damn, that's right. So she tied it to headline.

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Speaker 1: So after the initial we now she claims, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure a lot of stuff did come her way that

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Speaker 1: she claims she was getting death threat She claimed her

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Speaker 1: was being harassed. I wouldn't doubt that necessarily. So she

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Speaker 1: doesn't go to what's the one go fund me, Right,

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Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people do. But this is

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Speaker 2: What is it called give Send Go. It's a Christian

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Speaker 2: name is Shiloh, and I have been put into a

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Speaker 2: very dire situation. I recently had a kid steal from

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Speaker 2: I called the kid out for what he there you go.

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Speaker 2: Another man, who we recently found out has a history

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Speaker 2: has caused my family and myself great turmoil. My social

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Speaker 2: Security number has been leaked to my address and phone

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Speaker 2: number have been given out freely. My family members are

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Speaker 2: being attacked. My eldest child may not be going back

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Speaker 2: to school. Even where I exercise has been exposed. I

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Speaker 2: am asking for your help to assist in protecting my family.

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Speaker 2: I fear that we must relocate. I have two small

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Speaker 2: cannot and will not live in fear. That was her post,

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Speaker 2: That was.

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Speaker 1: The initial, and the donation stuck.

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Speaker 2: Off started pouring it.

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Speaker 1: And she raised hundreds of thousands of dollars, to the

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Speaker 1: point that yes, we as we sit here, we'll give

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Speaker 1: going up. Literally right before we came on and record,

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Speaker 1: you pointed out yes, she had just received a new

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Speaker 1: I don't doubt that she got hate coming her way.

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Speaker 1: I don't doubt that she got some ugly, ugly stuff

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that somebody can't be forgiven

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Speaker 1: and okay, but it an outpouring of support for a

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Speaker 1: woman who is standing up for her right to call

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Speaker 1: t J shouldn't be shocked. Why am I shocked?

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I've never witnessed that in my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it doesn't go on, but to actually

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Speaker 2: continue like defiantly to say it that is really out there.

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Speaker 1: You actually made it clearer for me and worse for me.

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Speaker 1: Now show that video to like, just put it on

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Speaker 1: primetime television and let it loop and let everybody see it.

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Speaker 1: And after you see that, your reaction to it is, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm confused too. I don't know. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: that feels like a good use of your money when

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Speaker 2: there are so many people who need help.

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Speaker 1: So she updated us, right. She came back in June,

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Speaker 1: right after the initial post, and she raised hundreds of thousands.

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Speaker 1: She came back in June and gave us an update

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Speaker 1: their rows.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I do update.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So she's what she said in June.

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Speaker 2: Yep, she said, It's been quite some time since I've

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Speaker 2: given you all on update about my family and myself.

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Speaker 2: We are doing great. Great is in all caps. Big

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Speaker 2: things are happening regarding our future. Life changing events are

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Speaker 2: at play, and we have all of you to thank

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Speaker 2: you all updated when new events arise. Keep standing up

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Speaker 2: for yourselves and keep fighting for the first Amendment.

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Speaker 1: I take issue. What are we fighting for? Do you

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Speaker 1: really want to preserve the right you do have the right?

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Speaker 1: Do you want to fight for the right to call

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Speaker 1: a black child the inward to his face? You're saying,

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Speaker 1: stand with me so we can fight for this right

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Speaker 1: to do what I do did. If anybody takes issue

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Speaker 1: What she's telling everybody to come join me and support

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Speaker 1: me in standing up for my right to do what

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: She's taken something terrible that she's done and somehow made

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Speaker 2: it a rallying cry for her right to do that.

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Speaker 1: Is it a racist rallying cry? Is she just pulling

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Speaker 1: the wool over people's eyes as she found the right audience.

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Speaker 1: She has almost raised a million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand calling using the in words, and how

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Speaker 2: is that on a Christian fundraising site? I don't That's

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Speaker 2: also I don't understand that at all. I'm just as

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Speaker 2: That's the other question I have.

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Speaker 1: You know me, Robes, I'm always trying to give benefit

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Speaker 1: I can maybe give a benefit of the doubt to

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Speaker 2: No, there's nothing apologetic, not an acknowledgment of what she did.

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Speaker 2: In fact, she's saying she only called him what he was,

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Yeah, she doesn't think she said

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Speaker 2: like this, And if that were being rewarded, okay, maybe,

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Speaker 2: but still this woman maybe made into a millionaire for

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Speaker 1: So, yes, there's the update she gave us in June.

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Speaker 1: I believe it was. But she just was now officially charged.

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Speaker 1: She's facing charges for what she did. Yes, it took

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Speaker 1: it was worth them taking the time that they did.

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Speaker 1: So I guess just twenty four hours after she found

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Speaker 1: and you thought her other updates were doozies. You going

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ. We

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Speaker 2: are talking about Shiloh Hendrix, the woman who is caught

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Speaker 2: that she called an eight year old autistic black boy

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Speaker 2: the N word, and she defended her right to do so.

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Speaker 2: She said it was because she was just calling it

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Speaker 2: what he was.

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Speaker 1: Is first Amendment issue at all? Is it? Are are

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Speaker 1: you allowed to actually, I don't know this question. Are

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Speaker 1: you allowed to use? I mean that is hate speech?

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Speaker 1: Is it not?

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Speaker 2: It is? And she was. The whole charge against her

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Speaker 2: is the law states that you cannot be engaged in offensive, obscene, abusive,

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Speaker 2: that would absolutely And she didn't just do it once,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my discomfort has been misplaced. Yes, obviously the people

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Speaker 1: Wasn't there a time that you if you got caught

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Speaker 2: Words, Wow, that's telling. Well, look, you know, it's important

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening to us on this Thursday evening.

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Speaker 2: I'm Amy Robach alongside my partner T. J. Holmes. Have

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