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Speaker 1: Hello Texans fans, and welcome to the program that gets

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Speaker 1: you inside n RG Stadium and informs you and sometimes

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Speaker 1: entertains you. I hope as to what is going on

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Speaker 1: with your Houston Texans. I'm Mark Vandermeyer. Johnny Harris is

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Speaker 1: off last couple of days, getting some much needed rest,

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Speaker 1: although you know he's probably grinding away on the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two draft already the Harris two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: because one hundred wasn't enough. But dpcity who joins me

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Speaker 1: for segment number one? Then we're gonna have Frank Frangie,

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Jaguars, and then Johnny with Casey Keeler,

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Speaker 1: the coach of the sam Houston State Bearcats playing in

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Speaker 1: the National Championship Game on Sunday, and Andre Ware is

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Speaker 1: calling that on ESPN. But first, DP City lead writer

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot Com Texans TV. Personality. Do you like

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Speaker 1: being called a personality? Is that kind of I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with being called a personality.

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Speaker 1: It's better than some other things that I've been called. Think.

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Speaker 1: You know, often people on the air are called talent,

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Speaker 1: right you have the behind the scenes people and then

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Speaker 1: the talent. I always thought that such an insult. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people who are editing and producing and those people like

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Speaker 1: I think they're more talented than I am. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really that talented. They're the talented ones working

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Speaker 1: I don't know where your thoughts are on that. I

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Speaker 1: think personality, let's just um, let's just stick with that,

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Speaker 1: because you're right. I don't know. I think talent can

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Speaker 1: sometimes mean they're just things that we insert into different

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Speaker 1: up to look they're just talking, like the talking heads.

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Speaker 1: It's like another euphemism for talking heads. So I like personality.

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Speaker 1: It gives a little depth, It gives a little bit

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Speaker 1: more depth. I think you're right, but I think we

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Speaker 1: kind of are just propped up sometimes, certain people in

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Speaker 1: TV are. It's definitely true, they're just propped up, read

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Speaker 1: the teleprompter and go. I always say, you know how

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Speaker 1: good the news people are on TV when there's some

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Speaker 1: right then you see who's got the chops, who's got

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Speaker 1: the talent or not. When you have to just go

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Speaker 1: off the cuff and you have people talking in your

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Speaker 1: ear and they're going to Now let's go to the

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Speaker 1: buffalo by you because it's flooding. Oh no, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna go out to Katie because we have

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Speaker 1: something else going on out there that impresses me. The

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Speaker 1: people who handle that well, you know what. We don't

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Speaker 1: use teleprompters, which always surprises people. When we shoot our shows.

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Speaker 1: Drew never uses as teleprompter. We don't even have a teleprompter.

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Speaker 1: I think at this point in my career, if I

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Speaker 1: how to use one. But a friend of mine in

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Speaker 1: the TV business a long time ago told me that

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Speaker 1: the best TV people are the people that come from

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Speaker 1: just sort of talk things out. When you're on TV,

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Speaker 1: you have like thirty seconds. Get your best material on

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Speaker 1: right now, fast and furious. Anyway, let's get our best

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Speaker 1: material in here right now ourselves DP as. We have

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Speaker 1: a rookie Miniicamp going on right now, and later on

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a mandatory miniicamp. There's Phase two

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Speaker 1: starting up next week. We'll see how all of that

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Speaker 1: shapes up with the Houston Texans as many players have

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Speaker 1: been in the building working out. We all know it's

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Speaker 1: been a strange offseason in the National Football League, but

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Speaker 1: know what, at this point, I think it's more important

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Speaker 1: need to start building their chemistry, and it's what are

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Speaker 1: What was your reaction when they drafted Davis Mills. You

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Speaker 1: and I have not talked on the air about this.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's a good situation for him because

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're drafted number one or two overall

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And for Davis Mills, I equate him to

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Speaker 1: I've used the analogy of green bananas. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: because I like to have a lot of bananas in

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Speaker 1: Like you need him for everything. He needs to be

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Speaker 1: So I think the banana analogy is perfect. Think Davis

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Speaker 1: Mills is a nice green banana. You don't need him

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to move away from a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: Ever recently year, I think you should always have some

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Speaker 1: Lena Hidalgo, Harris County Judge is a Stanford alum, and

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Speaker 1: there's going to be some similarities to what sort of

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Speaker 1: I think any ties that you can have with players

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it's all going to look like.

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Speaker 1: You know. I like Nico Collins. I like his size.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's been a while since the Texans

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Speaker 1: be on the field doing the pregame show yea, in

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Speaker 1: a costume. I'm promising that Elvira, remember Elvira Mark, We

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Speaker 1: gotta go a little bit more current like color television shows.

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Speaker 1: All Right. I knew i'd get busted for that, all right, DP,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for being all right. You talked about

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and Frank Francie, the voice of the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: joins us. Next, how's it going to North Florida? How's

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer handling everything so far? Trevor Lawrence, Tim Tebow, anybody.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it all next on Texans Radio. It's

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Mark Vandimer with you, joined now by my buddy,

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Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Frank,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Great to have you on. A

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Speaker 1: lot of hype, a lot of mania around the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: in North Florida right now. What's it like, Mark, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me on. Good to talk to you. And yes,

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Speaker 1: there's been more mean we'll have a mania writer, we

444
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Speaker 1: had mins Humania, you know, we've had Tebow Mania, We've

445
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Speaker 1: got Trevor Mania. We're not afraid of mania around here.

446
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Speaker 1: We're a long way from playing a football game, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: these are kind of fun times for sure. Well tell me,

448
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Speaker 1: let's start with Urban Meyer because we haven't caught up

449
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Speaker 1: for a while. We didn't have our combined visits. So

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Speaker 1: what's it like to have him around because I know

451
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Speaker 1: you covered him in college, and you covered college football

452
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Speaker 1: very closely on your show in Jacksonville, and now he's

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Speaker 1: the head coach of a pro football team. How is

454
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Speaker 1: it and how's it going to be for him? He

455
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Speaker 1: is a Here's what I'll tell you. He is his organized,

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Speaker 1: attentive to detail, locked in on what he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Anybody I've ever been around in any industry, he's that guy.

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Speaker 1: He knows what he wants to do, and that's why

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Speaker 1: he's been so successful. He's been easy to work with,

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Speaker 1: very loose and laid back, which is a little bit

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Speaker 1: different than he was before. Now, look he had he

462
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Speaker 1: hadn't lost the game yet either, But I think he

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Speaker 1: is a He's not as intense as he once was.

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Speaker 1: He'll tell you that. He'll tell you he's learned from that.

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Speaker 1: But the attention to detail and the organizational structure that

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Speaker 1: made him so good, I think is still there. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. The fun thing is Mark. Everybody's excited. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's been a tough go here, man. You know that.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen out of fourteen losing seasons, the nine out of

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Speaker 1: the last ten double digit loss seasons, fifteen straight losses

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Speaker 1: and last year. It's been a tough go. It's been

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Speaker 1: a tough go for the Jaguars for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and I think everybody understands that, and I think for

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Speaker 1: that reason, anything to get excited about or be optimistic

475
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Speaker 1: about is pretty cool. And I think people are excited

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Speaker 1: about him. About Trevor, there's a palpable buzz that we

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Speaker 1: haven't had around here in a long time. All right,

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Speaker 1: So what about Trevor? I know the fans have to

479
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Speaker 1: be excited, media, everybody. What do you think of him

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Speaker 1: coming in here and the kind of pressure that's on

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Speaker 1: him as the number one pig and he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: save the franchise and everything like that. I know you've

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Speaker 1: answered and talked about this a lot, answered a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions, But what are you thinking right now as

485
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Speaker 1: he was just drafted and getting acclimated to the Jaguar

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Speaker 1: way of doing things the new way anyway? Yeah, a

487
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Speaker 1: couple of things. Mark number one NFL quarterbacks hard, all right,

488
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Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's hard. There's three hundred and thirty

489
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Speaker 1: million Americans and we have a heck of a time

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Speaker 1: finding thirty two of them, you know, So it's it's

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Speaker 1: a hard job. We all know that. I will say

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Speaker 1: this about him. He's been the guy everywhere he's been.

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Speaker 1: He was the star in high school before he ever

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Speaker 1: got to the high school team. He was the star

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Speaker 1: at Clemson before he ever signed. He has had these

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Speaker 1: expectations his whole life. Mark Now, that doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 1: necessarily going to be successful every time you take the

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Speaker 1: next step, but he has so far. He's got a

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Speaker 1: very low heartbeat. He's got life in perspective. Man. Everyone

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Speaker 1: made a big deal about the Sports Illustrated article when

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00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 1: he said, listen, if I lose, the world doesn't come

502
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Speaker 1: crashing down on me, and some people thought that means

503
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Speaker 1: he's not competitive enough, he doesn't care enough, which is hogwash.

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Speaker 1: He does and he is. He's just a guy that

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Speaker 1: has life in perspective. He's a priorities in order and

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Speaker 1: those are all cliches, but I think I think he

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Speaker 1: is that, So I think that'll help him. Who knows

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Speaker 1: how the first year guys gonna do. It's a hard

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Speaker 1: world out there, and look, the team was one and fifteen,

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Speaker 1: so they were more than just a quarterback away from

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Speaker 1: being good. But yeah, I think he's a down to earth,

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Speaker 1: very grounded kid. He'll do as well as he can.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited and I'm excited about being around him more.

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Speaker 1: You know, with the tear stuff, we're still not around

515
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Speaker 1: these guys very much. So I'm excited about getting to

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Speaker 1: know him better being around him. But I do think

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Speaker 1: he's a slow, heartbeat guy. Mark. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: laid back guy that I think all the pressure will

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Speaker 1: affect him less than it with others. Frank Frangie, Voice

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Speaker 1: of the Jaguars with US on Texans Radio. Frank, give

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Speaker 1: me two or three things that people are not talking

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Speaker 1: about that should excite Jaguar fans anyway about the upcoming

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Speaker 1: season and the next couple of years anyway, because I

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Speaker 1: know you play the hits a lot, or everyone's talking

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Speaker 1: about Tebow and Lawrence and Meyer. But what about things

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Speaker 1: that people are not necessarily discussing. Yeah, that's a great question. Mark.

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Speaker 1: I think Number one, the team will be faster. It's

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Speaker 1: been a slow team, they just said. It just hasn't

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Speaker 1: been very fast in college football or the NFL today.

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Speaker 1: You gotta run, man. The Alabama wins all the national

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Speaker 1: titles because they're faster than everybody in high the state.

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Speaker 1: In Clemson, everybody pays attention to Tom Brady and Gronk

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Speaker 1: and Mike Evans, but one of the reasons to have

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Speaker 1: to pay One thing last year is that defense can

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Speaker 1: really run. Their linebackers were really fast. You know this,

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Speaker 1: So I think the team will be faster. The one

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Speaker 1: thing Urban said is we got to get faster. They

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Speaker 1: drafted a lot of fast guys. They signed a lot

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Speaker 1: of fast guys in free agency, predominantly defensive guys. So

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Speaker 1: I think the defense will run a little more. It'll

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Speaker 1: look like that Steelers Ravens defense structurally at the it'll

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Speaker 1: be a three four out of the gate. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen and Tlevan Chason will be very

544
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Speaker 1: good outside linebackers, way better three four outside backers than

545
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Speaker 1: they were four three ends. And Josh Allen was pretty

546
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Speaker 1: good four three ends. So I think a faster defense,

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Speaker 1: more team speed, more at tent of the detail on defense,

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Speaker 1: special teams. That's the thing. Look, you gotta have quarterback play,

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Speaker 1: but in addition to quarterback play, you gotta run on defense.

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Speaker 1: And it's just been a slow team. And Mark you

551
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Speaker 1: see him twice a year for the last ever many years,

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Speaker 1: Jags haven't run very well. That's seventeen team ran and

553
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Speaker 1: look how good they were. So I think more teams speed,

554
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Speaker 1: a better defense. I think that's happening too. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: no one's talking about We're all talking about Trevor and

556
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Speaker 1: Tebow and all the rest, Frank One about the other

557
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Speaker 1: two teams in the division, the Texans and Jags arrivals,

558
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: of course, but we had this in common. We don't

559
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Speaker 1: like the Titans and the Cults. So let's start with Indy.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of what they've done? And Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: how do you see that going? How do you project

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Speaker 1: that man? Man? There have been two Carson Wentzes. Mark.

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Speaker 1: There's been the guy that was probably headed for an

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Speaker 1: MVP before he got hurt. He looked like all the rage,

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Speaker 1: six to five athletic, big arm. Then there's a Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz that the story came out that maybe he wasn't

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Speaker 1: the best teammate in the world, maybe he's a little

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Speaker 1: bit immature, never really found himself when he came back.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know which Carson Wentz they're getting. I

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Speaker 1: don't know which Carson Wentz is the real one. Indianapolis

571
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Speaker 1: is a really well run franchise. They know what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: they know how to draft, they know how to sign players.

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Speaker 1: They've been good, they just haven't had quarterback play. When

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers got there, they were pretty good the one

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Speaker 1: year he was there. So if Wins is decent, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be good because they I think they know what

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Speaker 1: they're doing. In any of that, there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of respects for that franchise. The question comes down to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. I really like what Tennessee does. I think

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Speaker 1: Mike Rabele's a really good coach. He's a great leader

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Speaker 1: of leadership matter. There's a toughness to him. I think

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Speaker 1: he learned that. I think he was that guy anyway.

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Speaker 1: I think he learned it number one under urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: when he played when he was at Ohio State and

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Speaker 1: came back to try to learn how to be a coach.

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Speaker 1: Then certainly learned it with Belichick as player. I have

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Speaker 1: great respect for both of those, but having said that,

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Speaker 1: neither of those are elite yet there may be a

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Speaker 1: step away from that. I like Ryan Tannehill. I think

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Speaker 1: he's been good for them, So I think the Titans

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Speaker 1: are the team to beat in the division. I think

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Speaker 1: the culture a well run organization. The question mark for

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Speaker 1: me is quarterback. I just don't know which Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: they're getting Frank Frangjie, Voice of the Jaguars with US

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. All right, what about the rest of

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Speaker 1: the AFC? Is it the Chiefs, no question about it?

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Speaker 1: Are the Bills ready to take that next step? Your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Those are the two teams because they have the two quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and they have they have today's cornerback, kind of like

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has been for Houston. They can run, they

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Speaker 1: can throw, they're smart, they're well respected in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: So those are the two teams. I think Mahomes is

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Speaker 1: so good that I think they're gonna be tough to

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Speaker 1: beat until somebody figures that out. I look, Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: a good player, Buffalo's made great strides. I think Mahomes

606
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Speaker 1: is so good, mark, I mean so good historically good,

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna be tough to beat as long as

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Speaker 1: they have him. I would think the I think it

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Speaker 1: all starts with Kansas City and it's going to for

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Speaker 1: a while because everything you hear about Patrick Mahomes, he's

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Speaker 1: not just a really good player, but he works. You

612
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: know what made Brady so what continues to make Brady

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Speaker 1: so good, which made freaking Michael Jordan's so good, is

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Speaker 1: in addition to all the talent, those guys grind and

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Speaker 1: they work, and they eat right in the offseason, and

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Speaker 1: they and the teammates respond to them and they're great leaders.

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Speaker 1: I think Patrick Mahomes is that guy. Everything you hear

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Speaker 1: about him, he's all of that. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen isn't. He probably is. Two. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it starts with Kansas City. Man. All right,

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Speaker 1: what about the seventeen game schedule? Frank, how do you

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Speaker 1: see this playing out? What do you think of it?

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of games, But I think I think

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Speaker 1: it's a tough game. I don't know that I loved

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Speaker 1: it for the players, for us all love it because

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Speaker 1: I'd love calling games like you. I mean, if we're

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Speaker 1: calling twenty games anyway, as a Playboy play guy, I'd

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Speaker 1: rather call seventeen of them account rather than sixteen of

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Speaker 1: them account for my life doesn't change very much. But

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Speaker 1: I will tell you I think it's it's tough for

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Speaker 1: these players. I think that it's it's it's a tough

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Speaker 1: go for the players. I believe that in all my heart.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of games, and I want

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Speaker 1: to see how people manage it. It's a long year.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen games was a long season. You know you have

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Speaker 1: ups and downs during it. I'll be interested to see

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Speaker 1: our team. We have a very early buy. We have

638
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Speaker 1: a bye right after London for the Jaguars, so and so.

639
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: You know that London trip can take a little out

640
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: of you. You've made it the in that it's a

641
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: six gets week six and then the bye. I think

642
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: early buys hurt teams. I think everybody would love to

643
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: have that week nine or ten buy. I think that

644
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: that that benefits teams and ours is early. It's a

645
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: long year. It's a it's a long year. I don't

646
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: necessarily think it affects who wins and who loses. But

647
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: I probably they didn't ask me, by the way mark,

648
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: But if if I've gotten a call, I probably would

649
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: have said, think long and hard before we had a

650
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: regular season game. All right, One more for you, Frank.

651
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: We are in Texas, you're in Florida. What's it been

652
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: like going through the pandemic in Florida because a lot

653
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: of positive reviews about the lifestyle. What has it actually

654
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: been like for a resident there? You know, it's funny.

655
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: Mark March through gosh, midfall was the same. Everywhere it was.

656
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: It was the most surreal world we'd ever been in.

657
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: Everything was from home. I did my radio show from

658
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: home the whole summer. It was totally bizarre. My wife

659
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: and I usually take these trips all over the country.

660
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: We go to Jackson Hole or Seattle or Canada or whatever.

661
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: We did nothing. We drove to a cabin in North

662
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: Georgia a couple of times. So from a lifestyle standpoint,

663
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: from probably March through the mid fall, it was weird.

664
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: After that, I think Florida has been a little ahead

665
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: of the curve in Texas as well, but I think

666
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: we have been Our life came back to normal. I

667
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 1: think we still took all the protocols, but life started

668
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: feeling more normal for us toward the end of the year.

669
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: In the beginning of this year, and I gotta tell

670
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: you now, around here, I know the CDC came out

671
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: yesterday and said you don't have to wear wear a

672
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: mask if you're fully vaccinated. I've been fully vaccinated for

673
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: a while. I'm older than you. I'm sixty two. Mark,

674
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm an old guy. So I so I've been I've

675
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: been fully vaccinated for a while. Here. Life feels pretty

676
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: normal now. Restaurants are packed. I don't know if they

677
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: are there. Restaurants are packed. We had that UFC event

678
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: here indoors about a month ago. I think the first

679
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: one in America was full and it was packed. Yeah,

680
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: I think the life feels more normal. I'll be interested

681
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: to see how that affects the football team. Right now,

682
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: there's a mini camp going on, a rookie mini camp,

683
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: but the interviews are still going to be by zoom.

684
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: I hope that ends. I think there's a difference to

685
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: I'd rather talk to Urban and the players on the

686
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: field and maybe walk with somebody afterwards. Sure, I don't

687
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: know when that's coming back, but as far as a resident,

688
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: I think life feels more normal than it has in

689
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: a while. Excellent stuff, Frank. We appreciate the visit as always.

690
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend. Thanks you do the same, Mark,

691
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Take care. There's my friend

692
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars and He's

693
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: also a friend of Johnny. He was a friend of

694
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Johnny's first, because Johnny's at a long time in Jacksonville

695
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: as the former head coach of Episcopal High School there

696
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: and doing a bunch of other stuff. Anyway, let's get

697
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: to Johnny next, because he catches up with Ksey Keeler,

698
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: the head coach of sam Houston State. The Bearcats in

699
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: the National Championship this Sunday. Feels weird to say that

700
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: we are in May, but it's a pandemic year and

701
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna play for the title. Andre's calling it on ESPN.

702
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: Let's get to that next. On Texans Radio, keeping your

703
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: company on a Friday evening, Mark vander Meer with you.

704
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: And of course there's football being played this spring in

705
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: the college level, and sam Houston State is in the

706
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: National Championship in FCS this Sunday, Andre calling the game

707
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: on ESPN, And of course the Bearcats are every year

708
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: in the Battle of the Pine Woods here at NRG Stadium,

709
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: not last year, COVID. You know the rest of the story.

710
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: But here's Johnny with Ksey Keeler to talk about the

711
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: game and some other stuff related to it. Man, I'm

712
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: so pleased to be joined our next guests. He will

713
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: be coaching on Sunday. That's a big thing because college

714
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: football is always Saturday, but this week it's Sunday, and

715
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: that means championship game Sunday for the Sam Houston Bearcats.

716
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Joining me right now because a guy I've got to

717
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: know through the year, I've become a big fan of

718
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: his teams, and that's Casey Keeler coach. First of all, congratulations,

719
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: how you doing Championship Week? What's the feeling? Oh? Yeah, thanks, Jo,

720
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, you know, I mean, this is why

721
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: I came here. I came to Sam Houston because they

722
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: told me that they would give me the resources to

723
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: go in a national championship. And you know, we're here.

724
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: We're here, We're one game away, and to win the

725
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: national championship this year, in my opinion, we're gonna beat

726
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: the best three teams. We have to beat the best

727
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: three teams in the country in three consecutive weeks, and

728
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: I'll buy the way. Mammoth probably around their seven or eight.

729
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, they're a pretty good football program. So to

730
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: beat North Dakota State and James Madison and then South

731
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: Dakota State. I think there are the best three teams

732
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: in the country keeping the Bearcats out of this, and

733
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: so it would be a great accomplishment. Then you get

734
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: that ring and it's gold and you have it for

735
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. So coach. Last Saturday, full disclosure,

736
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm sitting with some of your some of your favorite friends,

737
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: so I didn't get a chance to see the TV broadcast,

738
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: but after we were driving home sort of heard that

739
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: you were very calm at twenty four to three down

740
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: they have a little six minute run there where they

741
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: get the big lead. Why were you so calm in

742
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: a game in which you felt like, man, is this

743
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: thing slipping away? What were you thinking at twenty four

744
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: to three? And why so calm? For the first time

745
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: this season, I saw some panic in my Bearcats, and

746
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't be panicking with them. And I

747
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: thought of all the things that we've gone through to

748
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: get here, and I'm thinking, twenty my points is a

749
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: minor obstacle compared to the pandemic and no locker room

750
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: and all the other stuff you know we've dealt with.

751
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think that's I needed to be

752
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: that way for the players, and also I had a

753
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: belief that we've gone through a lot. This team can

754
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: rally now. My message was really simple. There's no plays

755
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: in the playbook to get us back to play on points, right,

756
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: we probably can find one that can get us back seven. Yeah,

757
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: we do that. We're gonna be fine. I think once

758
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: they understood that, and then once we got back that seven,

759
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 1: it was like here we go. And to think about

760
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: it down twenty one and then to go up eleven.

761
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: In you know, that short short period of time, it

762
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: was truly mind boggling and a great testament to our

763
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: kids in terms of how they took a deep breath

764
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: and just moved forward. Coach, when it's twenty seven, twenty four,

765
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: after Jakez has done his thing back to back plays,

766
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: which we'll get to him in a second, but on

767
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: the I keep calling an onside kick. I know you

768
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: didn't mean it for it to be an onside kick,

769
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: but I see that ball up in the air and

770
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at where the returner is and I'm like, well,

771
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: they got a shot of recovering this thing. I took

772
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: a second. We called that exacted that way. That's exactly

773
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: how I called I got the guys in the huddle

774
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: and our kicker and I have talked about this a

775
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: number of times. I said, the toughest ball to handle

776
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: is a full speed ball that just dies in midair

777
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: and straight down. And I was off the phones when

778
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: we kicked the first time and we put the momograph

779
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: and they we gave them the ball to forty yard

780
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: line and I said, guys, no, this is perfect. We

781
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: need to pound that ball as hard as we can,

782
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: let it hang in the air. It's gonna drop straight

783
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: down and we're gonna recover it. And so I got

784
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: the kickoff team together on the sideline. I told him

785
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: exactly what the plan was, and we executed to perfection.

786
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: Coach I took a moment right there to just watch

787
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: the sideline, to watch the fans on that side, to

788
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: watch the students on the other side. That was as

789
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: cool a moment as I've seen in football. And I

790
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: know you're in the moment in the game's going on,

791
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: and now you gotta think offense, get back out in

792
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: the field and we really gotta run going on. Was

793
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: kind of go through your mind as you get the

794
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: big two big touchdowns from Zzard. Now of a sudden,

795
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: you get the ball back and you get it in

796
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: great fuel positions. What are you thinking at that moment,

797
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: because there's chaos enjoy all around you. How do you

798
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: keep your head in that as a coach, Yeah, you know,

799
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: it was one of those like, Okay, we made the

800
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: big play. Now let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let's

801
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: finish off the series. So we're trying to calm some

802
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: guys down. Love the energy, but now let's go execute.

803
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: And that was kind of like we took what we

804
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: talked about in the locker room at halftime, that's just execute. Mean,

805
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Two things. First of all, we got

806
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of ourselves. They made some plays

807
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: and we started worrying about we gotta be collecting the

808
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: equipment or I mean, yeah and on that, just play

809
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: the next snap. So we took care of that and

810
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: then Okay, we got the momentum, we got the enthusiasm,

811
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: but we still have to finish off the execution. And

812
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: so that was kind of a fine line there because

813
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: you want to feed off that energy, but at the

814
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: same time you got to remind them we gotta go

815
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: now execute. But it was one of the coolest moments

816
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: for me in my career on that sideline feeling that

817
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: just total sway and momentum. Momentum such an interesting thing.

818
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: One play can just change an entire game in terms

819
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: of momentum. There's a number of plays in a row

820
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: that changed that game, and it was special to be there.

821
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: It did it in three minutes, That's the incredible thing.

822
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it did it in three minutes. Was just

823
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing to do. But then in the fourth quarter

824
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: you still got fifteen minutes to play and you hang

825
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: on for the win. So coach, I'm gonna go to

826
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: the week prior, how much did knocking off DSU at home,

827
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: knowing how you know what a big you know, a

828
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: big team that is in FCS. How much did that

829
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: play into those final fifteen minutes that you did it

830
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: the week before against NDSU. Now you got to do

831
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: it against another power. How much did that week before

832
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: play unto those final fifteen minutes. Yeah, And I think

833
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: the Mammoth game played into that also. I think the

834
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: South Suisiana game played into that also. I mean, any

835
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: anytime you can have experiences where it's you can lose

836
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: and then you go and win, that just builds confidence,

837
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: and these are things you can't You can't do this

838
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: in practice. You can't like simulate this in practice. I

839
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: mean I always talking about the legendary coach I played

840
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: for a Tubby Raymond, and he had this constant theme

841
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: that you cannot simulate a football game. It's impossible, and

842
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: you need to have real life experiences to grow from,

843
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, to grow as a team. And we've had

844
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 1: some real life experiences, especially in the last three weeks.

845
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: We've had some real life experiences, and I think it's

846
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: helped this team grow. Now. I know it's probably human

847
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: nature to look ahead a little bit. And you just

848
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: mentioned Delaware and I would imagine, I know, I was

849
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: one of them talking to my friends and such. Oh Man,

850
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: Casey gets a championship game, he faces his own lot

851
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: er team where he'll led to a national championship. It

852
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: won't be Delaware, And maybe that's a little bit of

853
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: pressure off you that storylines out, but it is South

854
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: Dakota State. This team made number one team in FCS.

855
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: How you feel about Seena jack Rabbits, You know, I

856
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: think if it would have been a Delaware thing like

857
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: two years ago or three years ago, four years ago.

858
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: But I mean, I've been going for seven years and

859
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: now I don't know those kids. I mean, I know

860
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: Danny Rocco, he's a hell of football coach. The offensive

861
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: coordinator was an intern for me. But I mean, so

862
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: that's been it's almost I like, it almost feels like

863
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: a lifetime ago. But when you look at South Dakota State,

864
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: you go, we gotta be football, you know, coming in here. Um,

865
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: maybe the best team in the country, not called Sam Houston.

866
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: That's kind of how we look at life, you know.

867
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: But it's almost a carbon copy of a North Dakota

868
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: State team. Physical they are. The difference is this freshman

869
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: quarterback is playing a little bit better than their freshman

870
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: quarterback of the North Dakosata. That really is the difference.

871
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I think possibly what happened at North

872
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: Dakota State is they had the first round draft choice.

873
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: He took a lot of fall and now they got

874
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: on top of the freshman a little bit late in

875
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: the year before they decided to go to the direction

876
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: where South Dakota State made this decision earlier and have

877
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: gotten their freshman quarterback a lot of reps. But yeah,

878
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: they're very similar now. In terms of physicality, size, they play,

879
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: They play just so they played violent, like they just

880
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: played violently. It's very It's like looking at him, you know,

881
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: it's like looking at a Northly. They just aren't wearing

882
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: green and gold. That's the difference along those lines. Coach

883
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: last one, Eric Schmid. Throughout the year, there are times

884
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: I remember in the Nichols game, once he got on track,

885
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: he was phenomenal in a game he won seventy one seventeen.

886
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: I think it was he's had moments. He's also had

887
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: moms the other way, trying to kind of find his

888
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: footing and Fellow maybe the other day was kind of

889
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: that he's trying to find his footing. But when he did, Wow,

890
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: your offense took off. What do you expect from Eric?

891
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: What do you want to see from America? In his

892
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: championship game on Sunday? Yeah, I thought what James Madison

893
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: did was I thought they just they played really aggressive,

894
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: much more aggressive than even they have been, and they've

895
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: been very aggressive. So they were attacking us, and I

896
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: think when you attack like that, you're gonna get home sometimes. Yeah,

897
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: I think it was just a matter of us getting

898
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: to the speed of the game, finding some things that

899
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: we're working and then you know, getting him I don't

900
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 1: want to say settled down because he never gets rattled,

901
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: but just kind of in a rhythm. And once he

902
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: got in his rhythm, you know, and be honest with you, John,

903
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: when he does when he's in his rhythm, we're tough

904
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. I mean, if it's pulling the ball down,

905
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: if it's extending plays, if it's sitting in the pocket

906
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: and throwing, I mean, you know, he can do it all.

907
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean there's a reason why he's an All American

908
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 1: and voted to a number of All American teams. So um, yeah,

909
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: I think as he goes, we go, and that's very typical.

910
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: You think about the last three times I was in

911
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: the National championship game. I had to get named Andy Hall,

912
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: who is a fifth round picked by the Eagles. I'd

913
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: get him Joe Flacco's first round picked by the by

914
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: the Ravens. And then I had Pat devil And who

915
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: played three years with the with the Miami Dolphins. So um,

916
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: we're getting really good quarterback play, just like we did

917
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: the years I played for national championships at Delaware. Coach

918
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Speaker 1: can be sitting watching on Sunday. Best of luck. It's

919
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: been great to follow you all year. Thank you very

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00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: much for your time. Thanks you, I appreciate you. John

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Speaker 1: Harris with Sam Houston State head coach KC. Keeler. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for the show tonight. Go to Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans dot com for everything on rookie Minicamp this weekend. Tomorrow,

924
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: we'll have a whole bunch of stuff on there tomorrow afternoon,

925
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: so keep combing through the app. All the draft stuff,

926
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Speaker 1: all the stuff on Rookie Mini Caamp, all the schedule stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's all there Houston Texans dot Com and the Texans App.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Eddy for producing. Have a great night, everyone,

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Speaker 1: a great weekend, and go Texans.