WEBVTT - Is My Ambition a Trauma Response? 

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<v Speaker 1>All right, be a fam, welcome back. I am back

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<v Speaker 1>with the Brown Table, and I have my friends, my

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<v Speaker 1>BA fam in person, well kind of virtually, but in person.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Yon Nelly Ivy League educated, the Humble hot

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<v Speaker 1>Shot from Brooklyn, New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Intro.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I went, Maybe because George Foreman

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<v Speaker 1>just passed. So I was channeling like some boxing energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Rip you're not mad at him dying, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Not mad at the energy.

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<v Speaker 1>And also something okay, gotcha rip to the girl master

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<v Speaker 1>of all girl masters. He really did his big one

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<v Speaker 1>for like college students circa two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>And every book out and every barbecue and every black

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<v Speaker 2>party in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can make two paninis at a time. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh man, I inherited my parents, George Foreman, Griddle.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they had like other things than just like

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<v Speaker 1>the press. The Michael Scott, you know, the one that

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to introduce Chris and Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, at some point I'll get introduced. I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't going to rush it, but I was like the

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<v Speaker 3>riddle speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Brown University, where our Ivy League Humble Hot Shot

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<v Speaker 1>attended college. We're also joined by Chris Brown NG look

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<v Speaker 1>at that brown ambition.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't I to tell people my family is the

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<v Speaker 4>huge donor, say university, but we get you changing up

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit that way. They don't know directly that

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<v Speaker 4>it's my family.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, clown college. You no, that's like a triple brown

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<v Speaker 1>brown ambition, Brown University. Yes, brown.

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<v Speaker 2>We only brought a brown university because I'm drinking from

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<v Speaker 2>my little college cup. And I was like, hold on,

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<v Speaker 2>now they're not paying me to promote it, so let

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<v Speaker 2>me cover it. But now we're promoting them anyway, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean half her back. Maybe they can pay you

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, and then it's all symbiotic. It's all connected,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I should have put that as my brown boost.

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<v Speaker 2>But they did buy a bunch of my books and

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<v Speaker 2>create an intro to personal financial literacy and the markets

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<v Speaker 2>for freshman seminar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeh, nelly, that's kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but seriously, I was literally in tears. I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>hold up, my book is all the sentiments.

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<v Speaker 1>When are you gonna get your own library? When's that

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I have to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>But got state schools, all right, So what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. We mentioned George Foreman passed away. Why am

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<v Speaker 1>I seeing Jonathan Major's face all over my feet everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>I live?

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<v Speaker 2>Girl? Because Meghan Goood is because Meghan Good is a

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<v Speaker 2>you know is what is? She just like doubly famous.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like there was a moment where people

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<v Speaker 2>were kind of like upset and like over him, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want and then Meghan bought him back.

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<v Speaker 1>I just because what She's America's black sweetheart and now

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<v Speaker 1>he gets to benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>She was scared for her. I feel like she was

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's nineties like dreamgirl, even mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and it is still is Megan When her

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<v Speaker 1>and bow Wow did that one movie with skating, what

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<v Speaker 1>was it they were skating? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it's making good, I mean, but they do seem happy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know this controversy around him and his violent

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<v Speaker 2>passed and domestic issues.

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<v Speaker 1>With everybody and every celebrity couple seems happy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. I guess a little bit that

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen. But then again, I'm a hater because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like Rihanna with ASAP, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh what an a SAP do?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>He just had some he had some ignorant interviews in

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<v Speaker 2>the past that I had seen, and I just wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>let him go where he said some very misogynistic shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, maybe that was his eighteen nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>year old self. I don't know, but I just initially

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<v Speaker 2>when I heard the news, I was like, come on,

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<v Speaker 2>she can do way better. But then everybody in my

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<v Speaker 2>family was like, leave alone. She's happy, you're hating, And so.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I think we do. We care. We love Rihanna,

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<v Speaker 1>and we love making goods so much that you just

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be good on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect man because they're the perfect women, so they need

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<v Speaker 2>perfect men. I don't know, that's just me. I just like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, ladies, like we.

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<v Speaker 1>Need What do you think about Jonathan Majors. Does someone

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<v Speaker 1>like Chris as a because I know as a female,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like dead dead it dead it Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>and he does. It's more than rumor. It's it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's been leaked audio, there's been footage, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know he was arrested, yes, yeah, so, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering Chris, like do you think about that? Or

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<v Speaker 1>you would you pay for a Jonathan Major's movie ticket.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, well, first of all, violence to gets women

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<v Speaker 4>by man never okay, So let me just throw that

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<v Speaker 4>out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You can never do that. That's what my dad thought me.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct its coming up, that's just you don't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You never do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But after that came out, I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't support this. So, you know, is he a

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<v Speaker 4>good actor, yes, but I mean there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>other good actors and there's always an option to choose

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<v Speaker 4>what you want to go watch and who you want

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<v Speaker 4>to support. So to me, I'm like, hey, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>that hard to be like, you know what, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't need to go see him in the movie

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<v Speaker 4>right now. But I think he's in the news because

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<v Speaker 4>he has I think his movie, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 4>an old movie, but it was like coming out and

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<v Speaker 4>that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>It was old because they couldn't release it because that's

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<v Speaker 1>when he was arrested and that's why they delayed it.

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<v Speaker 1>So now so a couple of years later, they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it is it safe now? Can we poke our

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<v Speaker 1>heads out?

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<v Speaker 2>Did people forget? Is it old news?

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's it, and that's when they intern it. Has

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<v Speaker 3>a short memory.

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<v Speaker 4>It kind of get throw like, you know, pushing under

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<v Speaker 4>the rug and then people are just gonna come back

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<v Speaker 4>out and see if they're okay again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, Honestly. I also think it has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the level of talent of the person, like and

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<v Speaker 1>how much like I do think Jonathan Major's he, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>objectively speaking, an incredible actor, you know, so intense on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen like he and I can see like the

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<v Speaker 1>how his career was just like taking off and taking off,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like in it on a time where

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<v Speaker 1>we have so few. I mean, there's some like incredible

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<v Speaker 1>blackmail actors, but we just lost chap Chapwick, those men,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like just yesterday, and you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see one of the few go down like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do feel like if they're really really talented,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Chris Brown is still selling out shows.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I understanding, Because one, he messed up my

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<v Speaker 4>name years ago, because I think we're Almos sage my

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<v Speaker 4>entire life, He's messed up my name and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, how is he back famous again? I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, Wow, Chris Brown's that old, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you remember when he came out and he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just fifteen? Is not that one of his lyrics?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even I don't ever go looking for him,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what he looks like anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a baby when he came out at fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, even if it's been twenty years, the man

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<v Speaker 2>is still making music because he started so young.

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<v Speaker 1>Heyh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. He started at fifteen twenty years that

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<v Speaker 2>was right, But it's so true. I do think, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm talking to a lot of people in my experience,

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<v Speaker 2>which is obviously very anecdotal, a lot of the younger

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to say generation. Younger girls

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<v Speaker 2>in particular concerned me because they overlook a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff around Chris Brown and make excuses and say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh no, but but but but, like he's twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty up to twenty five, twenty six years old girls,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, why are you still on Kris Brown

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<v Speaker 2>like that, going to his concerts, doing all this and

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<v Speaker 2>his music? Oh no, no, I love Chris Brown. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. And it's like, okay, is it a generational thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really sure what it is, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll make excuses out the wall zoof of this man.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I, you know, it's just an observation that

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<v Speaker 2>I have noted.

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<v Speaker 4>I thow time, right, because like he if you're if

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<v Speaker 4>you're young enough, right, that happened when they were probably

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<v Speaker 4>even like maybe not even live or a little baby.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like a grade.

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<v Speaker 2>Third grade, righte Wahlberg.

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<v Speaker 4>He just some crazy stuff, but happens so long ago.

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<v Speaker 4>People are just like, you know, they don't think about

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<v Speaker 4>it anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So voided out. Probably, I just feel like what Jonathan what?

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<v Speaker 1>What bothers me the most is his like he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>almost adopted this persona of like some kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, reform Yogi master. Like he's just like

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<v Speaker 1>so he's like this forced again. I keep going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the quote that came out from that trial where

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<v Speaker 1>he had told his girlfriend she needed to be like

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<v Speaker 1>the credit to his MLK, to his Martin Luther King junior,

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<v Speaker 1>and be that level of poise and stature. And I

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<v Speaker 1>see he's like putting on that show as he is

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<v Speaker 1>this like dignified you know, actor, this this this dignified

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<v Speaker 1>you know, performer and creator and it just comes off

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<v Speaker 1>so forced and so it's so much bullshit. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel any humility, you know, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>the wow I hit rock bottom, I begged I I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like Harry said to Voldemort, like try

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<v Speaker 1>for some remorse home skillet, like before you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>eat that wand out of your hand, and your own

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<v Speaker 1>rebounding death curse kills you like I need him. I

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<v Speaker 1>think redemption, the path to redemption is painful. It should

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<v Speaker 1>be painful. There should be remorse, there should be statements,

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<v Speaker 1>there should be work, active work. He has an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to rehabilitate himself publicly and to actually be an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>example for other men who have chosen violence and have

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<v Speaker 1>not have not healed them healed their inner demons, and

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and he has an opportunity to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like until I see that level of

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<v Speaker 1>humility and grace like in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, I mean, or really any level, because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be clicking away.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't it just get swept onto the rug? Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he has.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm engaged now, yeah, yeah, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Crying on whatever show to tell you how she means

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<v Speaker 2>so much to me, and it's like, wait, did you

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<v Speaker 2>just get a whole? What happened in between? It was

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<v Speaker 2>like nothing there was. They just swept it under the rug,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, and it wasn't really addressed, at least

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<v Speaker 2>not by him and his pr folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, thank you. I need an apology tour. I

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<v Speaker 1>need a good one. What else is happening? Can we can?

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<v Speaker 1>I confess something? Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Go?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to confess us. What am I gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>about my Tesla? Y'all? What am I going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like such a fucking clown.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant it before.

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<v Speaker 1>I was literally thinking about that on the ride. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there a bumper sticker I could put on this

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<v Speaker 1>car before you before you slash my tires?

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<v Speaker 2>Please?

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<v Speaker 3>Please?

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<v Speaker 1>It's paid off. I've had it since twenty twenty one?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, please? Is U?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you see the thing where? I think it's a

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<v Speaker 4>company called Polestar They do the other electric car. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're under Volkswagon or Vobo. I forgot the company that,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're offering incentives for people to trade in their

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<v Speaker 4>Tesla's if they want to come over.

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<v Speaker 1>I need one of those. I need Rivian I would

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<v Speaker 1>love a Rivian because, you know, like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Rivian is now the progressive. I feel like brands are

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<v Speaker 1>so politicized now.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally benefiting from Tesla's downfall, totally exactly. You know, my

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend's brother works at let me not play his business all.

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<v Speaker 2>He does work at Rivan though, But it's so funny, girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look you what if you want to make it happen,

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<v Speaker 2>I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>I would, I would g I will publicly, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>put my car, put the Tesla in like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those machine like metal shredders. I'll do whatever, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like for to do a stunt like that to get

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<v Speaker 1>a different car, because I I feel gross. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>gross riding around in that.

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<v Speaker 2>You definitely need a ghost machine. Go to a black

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<v Speaker 2>owned business that does like custom stickers and get one

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<v Speaker 2>that says I bought this before Elon went crazy, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you're supporting a black owned business. Is creative business

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<v Speaker 2>and making sure people know your position, covering yourself because.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to just get rid of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing now, but but at scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, while you're in you need something to let people know.

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<v Speaker 2>Putting nothing on your Tesla and just leaving it parked

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<v Speaker 2>outside in New York City is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just wanted to make it look like that,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a niece, like a Nissan and logo to

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<v Speaker 4>be like alt or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I would let them slide on that. That's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 2>They doing something, you know, as opposed to literally doing

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<v Speaker 2>nothing where you don't have any stickers. You don't you

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<v Speaker 2>act like, oh, there's nothing. That to me is a

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<v Speaker 2>little bizarre because now you just don't think there's anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like people. I can feel the parents drop

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<v Speaker 1>at kids school pickup and drop off. I can feel

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<v Speaker 1>other drivers looking in the car to see who's driving it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, I'm a black woman. I must say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's incongruous, like I would explain it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't have time and like just to see

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<v Speaker 1>the like, oh, I'm gonna get a sticker, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>but what's this pollstar? People like what kind of car

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<v Speaker 1>is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What am I gonna be talking about it? But look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know is it evy? You gotta say yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go test driving versus a rivie because

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<v Speaker 2>otherwise you won't know right, like you just gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>test driver. But everyone is talking about full Star, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is the one I want that Montesla. I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>that a couple different, in particular black women, black women

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm friends with, who have posted that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okayy want to help the other black woman who's your friend.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a doctor too, so you know, trying. She's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to not look like she pulls up to the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>and Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, well, I'm thinking about our listeners real quick, and

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<v Speaker 1>which I always do, but y'all need to be leaving

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<v Speaker 1>some reviews please. Just as a reminder, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>y'all to go to Apple Podcasts and leave a review

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<v Speaker 1>for the show because it's been quiet over there and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I should probably read one out loud

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<v Speaker 1>because when we used to read reviews out loud, people

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<v Speaker 1>will be like, oh, well, we get my review read.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to pull up a review because do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true, honestly, you know what it is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of your loyal, loyal, loyal fans who come back Timetime

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<v Speaker 2>again have probably left reviews in the past. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to post if you updated and want to just

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<v Speaker 2>say I've been rocking with the pod since back in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, because those are those types of

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<v Speaker 2>comments really really make a difference to review algorithms.

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<v Speaker 1>My goal is to be like the Awkward Black Girl

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel of podcasts, you know how, like everyone likes

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<v Speaker 1>to tell Lisa like, I've been down with you since

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<v Speaker 1>the ABG days. Yes, like I know, so let me

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<v Speaker 1>let you know, let me know how long you've been

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<v Speaker 1>riding with BA when you leave that review, Well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet one, all right. This is from Natural End

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<v Speaker 1>to Issan, Oh Natural Intuition. She said. I love the

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<v Speaker 1>new picture. Thank you, She says, Mandy, you have transition

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<v Speaker 1>with grace. I love the new I love the new

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<v Speaker 1>new of the podcast and can't wait to keep listening.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the see girl they rocking with you. They

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<v Speaker 2>really are. And I will say I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not easy to just keep it going and

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<v Speaker 2>act like everything's all good when you know you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like your other half and like the whole show's as

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<v Speaker 2>totally different vibe. But you've really done it gracefully, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta say. And you just brought so much like fun,

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<v Speaker 2>creative energy coming up with new ideas, trying things, not

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<v Speaker 2>being afraid to try things. Like girl, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>know Brown Ambition is your baby, but you have really

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<v Speaker 2>really transitioned it nice. Yeah, we'll say, yeah, you really have.

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<v Speaker 3>Maddie is so creative, but I'm gonna be nice to you.

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<v Speaker 4>So you say you feel real bad when you, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>inevitably insult me.

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<v Speaker 3>Later on this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, eventually I might feel bad. Keep trying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it's so creative, so many great ideas. You

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<v Speaker 4>work so hard, So I'm very proud of you and

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<v Speaker 4>all the all the work you've transition.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hard to change things up like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, And I'm just so relieved. 'all don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been editing the show myself for the past few

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<v Speaker 1>months while I've been in between like working on this

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<v Speaker 1>network situation and like figuring out this new format. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been so much the level of stress. Plus my book.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh girl, I can't exactly like you know how you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like in it and you can't exactly you can't

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<v Speaker 1>zoom out because if you zoom out, you'll just self

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<v Speaker 1>combust literally implode. But it was all this stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>then I've had like three big book deadlines where I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to submit multiple chapters. I have another one tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and at the same time, and the podcast being brand new.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been but at the same time, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting. These are blessings. I don't want to complain,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is. I said twenty twenty five smelled like money.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that when the New Year changed over. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it really just smells, just smells like money.

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<v Speaker 2>So far to ask you, you girl, how did you do it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna be like, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even remember. I don't even know how I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just did it, and I just kept going like

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<v Speaker 2>that I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Have something to tell them four am wake up calls,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get enough sleep. I think sometimes you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like I don't. There's no like productivity hack. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>the hack is you work your ass off and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you can't sustain it at that level. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I wasn't gonna be able to edit the show forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't fool myself to think that, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>for the interim, like this is a temporary thing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to find an editor with all my free time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I finally did and like, now that's off my plate.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Carla and Courtney Black owned Latina after

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<v Speaker 1>Latina owned editing company. So very excited that, you know

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<v Speaker 1>my sister speaking in which I visited my sister in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>She's doing so much better. Be a faan I might

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<v Speaker 1>have shared a little bit. My sister donated a kidney.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a living donor, a god angel on earth, and

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<v Speaker 1>for all of her trouble, she ended up with a

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<v Speaker 1>very rare like complication. So for anyone who's thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>organ donation, Like I mean, already we knew it was

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<v Speaker 1>a serious surgery, but it's obviously quite common common ish.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, you really hoped, you know, the surgeon had

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<v Speaker 1>done like a gajillion of them, so you hope that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going to be textbook. But she had a

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<v Speaker 1>rare complication which caused her like severe, severe, like agonizing

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<v Speaker 1>nerve pain, which is it's the y'all y'all have experience

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<v Speaker 1>with like anyone who's ever had like a nerve pain condition,

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<v Speaker 1>chronic pain. But it's the worst thing about it is

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<v Speaker 1>the way that doctors don't really know how to treat it,

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<v Speaker 1>except for with really strong opioids, Like I mean, she

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<v Speaker 1>left the hospital with mad she left the hospital with

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<v Speaker 1>oxy with fentanyl patch. She had been on ketamine, like

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<v Speaker 1>there is dilouded. There's like these really strong and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't give these medicines to people who aren't dying

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<v Speaker 1>of cancer. Like that's how painful it was. But thank

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord. I mean, it took way too long. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been over two months, but she was able to finally

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<v Speaker 1>get some treatment to actually target the nerve that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>been damaged and set. The worst part is that your nerves.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's some surgical intervention. Obviously I'm not a neurologist,

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<v Speaker 1>but but for in her case, anyway, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>heal itself, you know, like there's probably not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be oh, if we just go in and put this

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<v Speaker 1>band aid there, you know whatever, that's not what they

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<v Speaker 1>would do. But you know what I mean, Like so,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was out of work, you know, and my

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<v Speaker 1>heart goes Plus what the medication she was on, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Mallory, don't be telling anybody. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't probably have said how many. But she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have them anymore. She's off of the really heavy ones,

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<v Speaker 1>which is part of the good thing. But it's so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to treat chronic pain. And then she burned through

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<v Speaker 1>her sick leave, burned through the FMLA even Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really tough.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so hard. Yeah, how's she doing now? Like percentage wise?

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<v Speaker 3>Where is she yet? Getting back to normal?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly? Every day? I mean I was there for four

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<v Speaker 1>days and I think we had two good days and

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<v Speaker 1>two not so good days. And it really depends on

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<v Speaker 1>if she can stay on top of the pain with

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<v Speaker 1>her medication. So is she taking it at the right times,

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes you're sleepy and you miss a dose or

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<v Speaker 1>you're late with something, and then the pain it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up with the pain medication at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also she is my mother's daughter, as am I,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have a hard time. Actually, I'm really good

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<v Speaker 1>at taking a rest. These two though they on some

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<v Speaker 1>other ish they cannot sit still. They want to be

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<v Speaker 1>cooking and going out and about and cleaning dishes and

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<v Speaker 1>folding shit. And I'm just like you guys, I'm laid

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<v Speaker 1>up on the couch because whenever my mom is around,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fully fifteen again in my head. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I'm mom, dear, and so yeah, so she

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<v Speaker 1>she you know, would do a little too much and

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<v Speaker 1>then it would be a tough day.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's hard. Some people though, like they're just

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<v Speaker 2>wired that way. Like my oldest sister. There's nine siblings

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<v Speaker 2>in my family, and the oldest sister, the firstborn, she

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<v Speaker 2>is like she's like your sister and your mom. She

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<v Speaker 2>just cannot sit and rest. I mean, she just it

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<v Speaker 2>like it pains her to not be to not feel

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<v Speaker 2>productive in whatever way, whether she's doing laundry, cleaning, cooking, dusting,

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<v Speaker 2>something out in her garden doing stuff. Was like, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>what like she has a garden. She lives in New

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<v Speaker 2>York City, and she has a garden in her yard

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<v Speaker 2>so that she can constantly be doing you know, because otherwise, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like mentally, I think she feels drained when she's not

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote productive. But that is just it takes a time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. She feels drained by not doing something mentally

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<v Speaker 1>right mentally because that's the thing, right, Like, eventually the

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<v Speaker 1>draining switches over from your being mentally drained to now

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<v Speaker 1>physically your body's literally telling you.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to stop you need to chill. And then

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<v Speaker 2>eventually when it gets to that point, it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little late. No, it's never too late. But

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<v Speaker 2>of course it's late because you've been constantly pushing yourself

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<v Speaker 2>past the point of that is reasonable. But yeaht one point,

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<v Speaker 2>she she turned some which way. I don't even remember

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, but her ankle. She was just literally walking

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<v Speaker 2>and then turned around in the wrong direction or in

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong way on her foot and had to stop

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<v Speaker 2>and actually like go, she had to what happens, She

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<v Speaker 2>had to get a brace on her foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Get injured, and then you finally forced to sit.

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<v Speaker 2>Down exactly exactly. So, either you choose to rest or

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<v Speaker 2>your body's gonna force you to rest.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I prayably rest. I love not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me, give me a sake, and give me a chair.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go sit in it. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been going to the gym, You've been getting your

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<v Speaker 1>little steps in on them hills.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to be doing. I do like a good walk,

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<v Speaker 3>but I also please let me sit down. I rest.

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<v Speaker 3>Rest are best friends. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really good at just being a couch like decoration,

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>couch trotting as they say. You know what, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not very good at sitting in silence though, because

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:39.040
<v Speaker 1>my sister's house is so quiet, like there's no like

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<v Speaker 1>TV on. Listen, listen and shout out to my Wisconsin people.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom is always like, you don't you don't love

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<v Speaker 1>your Wisconsin heritage. I'm like mommy the way that when

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<v Speaker 1>I went I landed, she lives like in a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>town in Wisconsin too, shout out to Lacrosse and we

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<v Speaker 1>when I landed in the teenious plane, ever, we went

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<v Speaker 1>straight to the grocery store because again mom and sister,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't cook something. And I had took this video.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, y'all, y'all don't understand the number of ways

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<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin people know how to make a salad. And not

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<v Speaker 1>like a green salad. I'm talking mayo or some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like creamy substance, maybe a sour cream macaroni salad,

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<v Speaker 1>pistachio salad. Jello and the jello. The jello I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to show you guys after this, Like the there was

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<v Speaker 1>literally like gourmet perfect cubes of jello, just gallons of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, people just show up and buy this

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<v Speaker 1>much jello.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I'm trying to picture what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so like your salad in Wisconsin's usually a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of like mayonnaise is the ideal, maybe sour cream, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or some kind of yeah aoli situation, but probably mayonnaise.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the fluffs are made if I'm remembering correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>with like maybe maybe like a whipped cream because it's fluffy.

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<v Speaker 1>So like at Christmas, my mom my grandma would make

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<v Speaker 1>cranberry fluff, which would be like a mix of like

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<v Speaker 1>cranberry sauce and whipped cream. I think whipped up. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not endorsing it. I'm just saying there's a culture

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<v Speaker 1>y'all want to put. There's a culture in Wisconsin, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is it. It is the culture of fluffs and

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<v Speaker 1>mayonnaise salads, deli salads.

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<v Speaker 2>If they put it on something like like like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like flying or like a cheesecake with fluff on top

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<v Speaker 2>or something, but why they just eating the fluff.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the dish, see that I can't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a little dollipup fluff on your plate, on your

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<v Speaker 1>plate heritage fork spoon, Oh, you mean, like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you what is it pair well with.

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<v Speaker 4>What?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm why do you think that it has

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<v Speaker 1>different notes? The notes of the the cranberry fluff crisp

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<v Speaker 1>pairs really well with the orange jello. I would uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the orange jello and the shape of a cube, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would pair well with it. Also, maybe a broccoli salad,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, extra creamy would pair nicely with a fluff.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know you wash it down with some like

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<v Speaker 1>German or Irish beer, a Guinness. I don't know, bloom,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're going further and further away from where my

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<v Speaker 2>mind and stomach want to be.

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>And cheese curds. Just throw some cheese curds on top.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Question like is it just like yeah, people's stomachs just

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<v Speaker 4>like upset all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, First of all, I'm dairy free. It's yes. The number. Yes,

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>there were many jokes about how everyone had to take

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<v Speaker 1>some time with the porcelain God after certain meals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but what am I gonna say?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking this up and you're right, they got.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I'm right. It's my heritage. I am a

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<v Speaker 1>cultural ambassador for Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>Pineapples with marshmallows and pistachia pudding.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my mom always told me don't say yuck to

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<v Speaker 2>food because you don't want somebody's young, or you know, offensive,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody you don't want to or whatever. But at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Dominican moms are so shady and get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl. The stuff my mom be cooking, I know she

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<v Speaker 2>ain't talking, really, I know, I think. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>Chitlin's chills, mondongle, mondongle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very different than you have. I'm sorry Christ's blushing.

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know a top of a bald head could blush. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I sent you a forty It took me forty six

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<v Speaker 1>seconds to film the number of salads up seafood salad

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>with imitation crabs we have. Look at the Just wait

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<v Speaker 1>till you see the jello. It'll come through finger. They

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<v Speaker 1>call it finger jello.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have to look probably two. This is like a

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<v Speaker 1>two finger jello. They make a healthy porsche. Okay, some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of macaroni salad. The jello took me out. Potato salad.

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Wait till you see the ham spread. Wait until you

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<v Speaker 1>see the ham salad.

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<v Speaker 2>Like lego blocks, all jello blocks, chicken rotisserie salad, Cashi

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 2>broccoli salad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I actually do, fuck with broccoli salad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually delicious if you don't over mao it look

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<v Speaker 1>at you Ellie's.

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<v Speaker 2>Face spread ham spread sounds and looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Bacon ranch salad, poppy seed chicken salad, bacon cheddar, rotelli

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<v Speaker 1>pasta salad.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's like half of it is missing off.

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<v Speaker 1>Summer fresh pasta salad of course, tuna salad, the o

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<v Speaker 1>G Macaroni Supreme. And I see peas, some peas in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I don't lie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I could have kept going. You learned something today.

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<v Speaker 1>I dedicate you know what. I dedicate this part of

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<v Speaker 1>the show to my grandma. Shout out to Doris Dutton

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<v Speaker 1>uh nay Ninimon from Brown Deer, Wisconsin. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>James Dutton, my grandpa, May they rest in peace, and

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>my mom, Laurie Dutton. If y'all didn't know, now you

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<v Speaker 1>know that's where I come from. I don't actually was

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>born in Georgia, born and bred around Atlanta, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have my Wisconsin roots.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was to say we're Wisconsin roots, because I

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<v Speaker 2>thought you were from Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom is from Wisconsin. She moved out. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a break lady. She moved from She. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>Irish Catholic, you know, family of five. Mom was a

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<v Speaker 1>school teacher, dad was a brick mason. Then at like eighteen,

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>her and her best friend were like, let's go to Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems hot, seems popping down there. I don't know

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>where they got their news at the time, so they

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>hop in the car. They don't go to college. They

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>move to Atlanta. They get jobs as waiters. She meets

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>my dad at an ihop. They're both waiters. I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into some of my brown boosts a

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but I'll do it now. But like having

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<v Speaker 1>to be I always felt this need to be sparkly

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>and fun and charming and successful and talented to warrant

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<v Speaker 1>my space in that family, like that side of the family,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like it was stories like that that

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<v Speaker 1>I was told from starting getting real deep. We went

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<v Speaker 1>from like finger jello to racial trauma. But but like, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, really and the bar in real life was

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<v Speaker 1>so low it was cranberry fluff and I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be Michelin star, you know what I mean, to

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<v Speaker 1>have a seat at that table. Really didn't need to

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>try that hard, but I yeah, I did. I from

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<v Speaker 1>a young age, I like I was so out of

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<v Speaker 1>felt so out of place on that side of the

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 1>family that I did think that in order to like

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<v Speaker 1>be accepted, it had to be exceptional. And that probably

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>came from them like looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At me, like you'll never be good enough?

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<v Speaker 1>Like who that black baby?

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's my pretty white bait?

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 2>They gave you that vibe if you'll never be good enough?

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>You didn't come from nowhere. You didn't You didn't come

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>into your head out of nowhere, right, that's yeah. Fact? Okay, girl,

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Well you know I couldn't help it, but look it

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 2>up and there's so many interesting things here. Flutter nutter.

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<v Speaker 2>The sandwich was made made of marshmallow, marshmallow and peanut butter.

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<v Speaker 2>Peanut butter, Yeah, that's delicious.

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Though you ever tried a peanut butter fluffed sandwich? Delicious?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Now that one is eating in wisconstant, But it

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>didn't come from it comes from the New England areas

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>of Massachusetts is where it started in the nineteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you got Watergate salad. What pistachio pudding whipped

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 2>topping in canned pineapple is called a watergate salad?

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 1>My grandma does did and what is it called pistachio?

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<v Speaker 1>We I don't know what. Why is the pistachio so popular?

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>But there is a pistachio pudding dessert that we do

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and we tear it up. It's neon green. Its delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at it now. Can you tell me why

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<v Speaker 4>there's cherries on top of this? Those little marachino cherries?

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<v Speaker 4>Why is that on this?

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<v Speaker 1>This not too much on my people?

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, all right, we're gonna take a quick break, ba fam.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that you weren't eating while you were listening

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to this. We might have made you regret that choice.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:40.959
<v Speaker 1>And if you're hungry, then maybe you should see your

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>pastor about that, or your spiritual guid guiter, your spiritual

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>guide to find out why. Be right back with our

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>brown booth Brown Break see you then? All right, we're back,

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>ba fam. I am joined by yan nellispinal In Chris Browning,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to do Brown Boost Brown Break.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys ready? You know what you're gonna do,

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>boost or break.

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<v Speaker 3>I am ready watergate salad.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we let Cris go first?

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Do it anything? I was ready? What would I

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 3>get for?

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>You're never ready? All right, y'all? Ellick, you can go first, girl,

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go first. My brown break is that I noticed

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the youngins in my family. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to use real banks. They've been hitting me up

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:31.479
<v Speaker 2>like oh the young yeah, like the the nineteen to

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty four to twenty five. They think cash Up is

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the bank. Like they set up their direct deposit into

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>their cash app. They have a cash app card, and

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>they think that they're banking, and I'm like, wait minute,

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Like that's if anything were to happen to cash Is

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 2>that FDAC in shirt. It's not FDIC shirt. Now, there's

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>a loophole where if you if you follow like three

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>steps or four steps, like if you set up direct deposit,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you get the cash up card. You do you have

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>a deposit of a minimum a certain amount every two

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 2>weeks or whatever. Then you get what's called passed through

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>FDIC insurance coverage through their partner bank. So it's not

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>because they are not a charter bank. Cash at Venmo.

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>They can't they PayPal, they can't give you FSC insurance

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>because they're not chartered banks, but they can pass through

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>the insurance of the bank that they're partnering with. They

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>hold your money while they show you the interface of

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the tech. So I try to explain that to my

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>nieces and to my brother, my younger brother, and I'm like,

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, and oh no, no, I have passed to FDS.

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>It says that on their site, and I'm like, okay,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 2>but that only protects you from the from the bank

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>that's holding the money going under. But there's nothing protecting

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 2>you from like cash up going under or you know,

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>or whatever in any case like PayPal or venbo whatever,

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 2>there's no protection around these. So I'm I'm just a

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 2>little nervous now, and I'm curious how wide spread this

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 2>is of, Like, is this a generational thing where these

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>younger generations are getting targeted by these apps that are

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 2>basically looking like banks, acting like banks, borderline calling themselves bank,

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>but they're not actually banks, y'all. Like we need actual

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>depository institutions. You need to go to a credit union,

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>you need to go to a community bank, you need

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 2>to go to a regular bank, like you need an

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 2>account that is actually protected and ensured. And I just

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 2>thought that people would get that, especially after like Silicon

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 2>Valley Bank and Signature Bank and some of the bank

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 2>failures from a couple of years ago. But I don't know.

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I think some of these youngins really do think that

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 2>with all the tech, the new kind of cool trendy

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 2>tech stuff, that they're covered or that that's that they

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 2>got what they need because they even you know, giving

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>debit cards and things like that.

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Benmo does that too. Is that the same thing?

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 1>It's always trying to prompt me for a debit card.

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, no thing care name.

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>They keep sending me notifications and emails and all that.

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just I'm curious about it. And I want

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 2>to encourage you. If you're listening to this and you

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 2>have a young en in your life, a young person

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>that you care about, check in with them. Make sure

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 2>they actually understand that these apps are technology that allows

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>you to engage with the money that you have sitting

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 2>in an account at a bank. But they are not banks,

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 2>so you gotta have yeah, whether it's a credit union

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>or a bank, accounts up don't be thinking that you're

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 2>banking and you have nothing but a cash app little

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 2>wallet and some cash in there, and don't leave the

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 2>money in the cash app or in the Venmo wallets

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>too long.

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're all doing that. That's probably why they're

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why they're offering debit cards. They're like, well,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>they're people are using it as a bank account anyway, right.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 2>So we might as well emulate that. But you're not

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 2>getting you know, high yield, you're not.

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Getting I bet those debit cards charge fees too.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Right, So we gotta I gotta look into that more

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.240
<v Speaker 2>because I was just so afraid of, like how normal

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>it was. My little brother like, yeah, I just use

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 2>cash up as my bank. I was like, hold up, bro,

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 2>not miss Beehulples little brother not having an those bank account.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 2>What's going on here? Like this is not acceptable, bro?

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, just talk to the young you know, check

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>in on them, because unfortunately, I do think these tech

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>companies go out of their way to make young people think, hey,

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 2>it looks like a bank, It functions like a bank.

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, when I log in, it has a debit card,

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and like it must dollar sign. Yeah, it holds my money,

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>it must be a bank. And unfortunately that it's just

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 2>not right.

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I think too, because like the banking

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 4>industry is still even though it's modernized, it's still behind, right,

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Like it's so easy to open up a cash app account, Venmo, PayPal,

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 4>all these sayings, it's so easy, Robinhood, you know, put

0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 4>all these accounts on your phone. Where banking really has

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 4>it and modernized that way, and I mean some reasons,

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 4>it's for good reason, you know, the regulations kind of

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:17.839
<v Speaker 4>make it me a little bit more difficult to open

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 4>up an account. But I mean, I think a lot

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 4>of people don't go to these like online banks where

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 4>it is a little more modernized. You can open it

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 4>up online. You don't got to go to a branch

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 4>and sign a piece of paperwork and all that stuff.

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think enough people know about it. And

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 3>but they do.

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Everyone knows about cash app and it looks it looks good,

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 4>it's easy to use, and some people just go that

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 4>way without thinking about you know, some other benefits. Like

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 4>you said, but you don't have a savings account really,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:39.919
<v Speaker 4>and then some of them do. But it ain't gonna

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 4>be FDIC insured it's this whole nonsense that it the

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 4>younger people kind of are in this weird middle ground.

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 4>This is like the best option of them in their mind.

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also it's not it's I don't even blame them.

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I do think they're being targeted. Like when you look

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>at the way that cash apps spends their money, they

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 2>have where Megan thee Stallion is teaching you what bitcoin

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>is to try to encourage you to go buy bitcoin

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.479
<v Speaker 2>on the cash app platform, and like, come on, now,

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>we all know who they're ultimately targeting when they put

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Megan the Stallion in their ads and not tell a swift.

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 2>So I do think that part of it is a

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 2>little bit like we have to hold them accountable because

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 2>they are actively targeting young black and brown consumers who

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 2>are the ones that are the furthest like a way

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to being served properly from banks in the first place.

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>And so it's just and already unbanked or under bank.

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Under bank for the most part, right, So it's just giving.

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 2>It's giving problematic a little bit.

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you get your paycheck deposited to your cash app?

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you can see that's yep. And again it looked

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>like a bank. It acts like a bank, it must

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 2>be a bank. That's not true.

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's okay.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 4>The older generations though, because I worked at bank for years,

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 4>like when I was in college, and the thing is like,

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 4>in I worked in a neighborhood I grew up in.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 3>It was a poor neighborhood. A lot of people will

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 3>get screw it over by the banks.

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 4>They were getting hit with all these over draft fees,

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 4>they were getting hit with all these other penalties that

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 4>were getting on check systems. So then they wouldn't have

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.240
<v Speaker 4>bank accounts. And so I think already for their probably

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 4>the parents of these kids, they grew up an environment,

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 4>especially if you're in a lower income area, where it's like,

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 4>don't go to the bank.

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>The bank is already gonna like it.

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 4>I can't, I can't open account anyway, So it's not

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 4>gonna teach me to go oput an account there. But

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 4>there's these new alternatives that kind of bypass all of that,

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 4>and I feel like it's created a really great environment

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 4>for people to be like, you know what, why even

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 4>go to a bank and deal with that. My family

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 4>and parents that have one anyways, let me go over here.

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 2>This is so much easier that's the fact.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a great point, all right, Chris, what's your boost?

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Like I caught up in your ellis breaks. I wasn't

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.239
<v Speaker 3>even thinking about it anymore, but you.

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Know, I would say my break is my brown break

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 4>is getting sick because I got sick last week.

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to my niece. Give me all the viruses

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>and diseases.

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Flavor did you get this time? Little influenza, little hand,

0:38:55.800 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>foot of mouthcocksacky, terrible word love saying.

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 4>It's just a regular old cold because she I went

0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 4>over there because I was I was visiting back.

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Home Corona with my brother.

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 4>Her nose was running the entire time, just a little

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 4>snap out that nose. And I know she got me.

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, she's all cute, but at some point she

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure she sneezed in my eye or something.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Then and now, if you.

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Started eating your lunch because you didn't want to eat

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it in the first half of the show because we

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>were talking about too many salads and you started right now,

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm also sorry.

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 2>People are gonna end the episode just nauseous. That's what's

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 2>gonna do you have.

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>A go to cold remedy? What do you do? Dudes

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>have the funniest things they do when they're sick to

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:37.680
<v Speaker 1>get better.

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, just rest it out.

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 4>That's all I do. I did nothing, rested out. Give

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 4>me some vitamin see and drip some tea. I have

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 4>eat about three bags worth the cough drops. Then you know,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 4>at some point and you start feeling bad.

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Bags just three.

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a friend who said he just drank gallon

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>after gallon of water to flush it out. I'm like,

0:39:54.320 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna unsalinate your blood and your fluids and and

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital.

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 2>People better talk a lot about dehydration, but there is

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 2>such thing as overhydrating. Chill out, chill out.

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Now, you can sweat it out. You have sweat it

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 3>all out. Yeah, take a bunch of naps and then

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 3>you know. It took me about a week.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that. I don't know. For some reason when

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 1>you said sweat it out, I started thinking about my

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:25.760
<v Speaker 1>brain moves really fast. It was like hot yoga, yoga, meditation.

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a sound bath tomorrow. I'm very excited about that.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>You never tried one, Chris.

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 2>You would like it, Chris, you would like it. I've

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 2>done a few of them, and especially since I moved

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 2>to Miami, they do a lot of them down by

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the beach, which is so beautiful. Every chance I get,

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll go on. It is so nice. So Mandy, where

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 2>are you doing?

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>This?

0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Is it at yoga studio?

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 1>It is at an actual sound like this is what

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.760
<v Speaker 1>they do. And so I've only done it once before,

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>but it was so exquisite. Like the feeling that I had,

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I just wish I could have floated and been. I

0:40:58.160 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't wish I had to get in the car and

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>drive after because I was just so it's just when

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you're really focused on the meditation and when you get

0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to them and it is a practice, like I have

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to do it and practice at it when you have

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a really good one, I genuinely, and I don't. I

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>don't have. I don't smoke a lot. I don't smoke

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 1>at all, really, but I don't take edibles. But when

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I have and I've had a little bit of a high,

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely it's crazy how you can produce that sensation

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>in your own body, like that calm and the humming

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>through you, and it was amazing. So the place I'm

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and that was at like my local nature preserve. You know,

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't anything special cool.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, but when I'm going to I didn't know

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.439
<v Speaker 2>what a sound bath was until one of my friends

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 2>invited me like two years ago. So the people listening

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 2>are like, she's going to a what a baff of

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:44.240
<v Speaker 2>what what.

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:45.960
<v Speaker 1>To do it? Just google it, go find one and

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>go do it.

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:47.280
<v Speaker 2>True?

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean they have. It's the one with the

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 1>bowls where they make them. That's not the sound because

0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't be relaxing, but they make them, and this

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>is the place that I'm going to. It looks so beautiful.

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>They have like beautiful chaise lounges that we're going to

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>lay in with like pillows. We're gonna be so comfy,

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>not on the hard floor the yoga matt like I.

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Was last time.

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 2>That's why I've done it. Yeah, I've done it.

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:13.359
<v Speaker 1>But that's not my boost though.

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that was a little half boost.

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>That was a half boost. That was just that was

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 1>just an ADHD tangent where we went down that little road,

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:26.320
<v Speaker 1>a little side show. But my boost boost her break break.

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 1>All right. So I'm writing this book, y'all know. It's

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 1>going to be called Brown Ambition, and I have the

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.400
<v Speaker 1>most incredible black woman publisher. Her name was Krishn Trautman.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Legis is the legacy lit at Hashet. It's an imprint

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:41.720
<v Speaker 1>at one of the top five publishers that really focuses

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>on amplifying b IPOC voices. And anyhow, I got this

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:50.240
<v Speaker 1>book deal almost two years ago, and I have been writing.

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've probably written one hundred and fifty thousand

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 1>words by now, and half of them will not end

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 1>up in the book. But I've just been writing and writing.

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>And one of the credible things is sometimes I'll just

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 1>have these like epiphanies as I'm writing. And I had

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>one of those when I was, you know, full up

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>on my macaroni salad in Wisconsin this past weekend. But yeah,

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>belly full of fluff really brought it out of me.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>But anytime I'm waiting for my children, I'm like, oh,

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna write all day. And so I had these

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.919
<v Speaker 1>like intense I had this intense writing session. And it's

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.720
<v Speaker 1>in the chapter where I talk about my therapy journey

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and how I have found a lot of the like.

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>So I use a particular kind of therapy called DBT

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that I did a I just graduated actually from a

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I might have told you guys a two

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like a twenty week DBT training thing and anyhow, And

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to connect the dots between how these like

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>skills that I've learned, these coping skills for stress can

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>really apply to you know, your finances and your career

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and all of that. And as I'm writing it, I'm

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>starting to think about just the word ambition and how

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.439
<v Speaker 1>I've always in Tiff and I talked about before too,

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like we always sort of had this this like dual

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>way of thinking about ambition. It's amazing, we want to

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>celebrate it, but ambition can sometimes drive us into like

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:17.239
<v Speaker 1>really unhealthy habits and really unhealthy ways of soothing ourselves.

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like if I just get this money, if I just

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 1>if I launched this business, if I get this you know,

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.359
<v Speaker 1>if I get this accolade, if I succeed here, then

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>what then, like in that blank, that blank space, like

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>what would you fill that with? What is it that

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you're really chasing? And I had said on my whole

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>life that it was around financial security, you know, raised

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>by a single mom, saw my mom go through a

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:45.439
<v Speaker 1>divorce financially you know, insecure, and then also my dad

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>had his issues, and I went to school thinking, well,

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I can't. I don't want to be unsafe

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:53.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't want to be insecureate that. So

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make as much money as possible. But

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:58.319
<v Speaker 1>in writing the chapter and peeling back the layers and

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I kind of talked about it a little bit earlier,

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>but I started to realize that and this was really

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of it was very like, it's sad,

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's also like, Wow, I'm understanding myself so much better.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I realize why my whole life, I've had this inner

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 1>drive to be successful, to be the best, and to

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>get the a's and the four point zero and get

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the best score and get into a good school and

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, join all the clubs and be the president

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of this and that and like, and then put so

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.880
<v Speaker 1>much on my plate that I wind up suffering because

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've taken on so much for not the

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>right reasons. I've taken on so much because I wasn't

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>chasing financial security. I was chasing like self worth. I

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 1>was chasing this idea that I have nothing else going

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>for me but the things that I can do, accomplish, earn,

0:45:54.239 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>get create, and I it's almost as if my like,

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.440
<v Speaker 1>so now my mind has caught up to like I

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>can intellectually, I get caught up to the to how

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I was processing and like why I was doing that.

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:12.919
<v Speaker 1>And what I've realized is like success in ambition, that's

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:17.359
<v Speaker 1>a form of trauma response. Like success and ambition, it

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 1>can be a trauma response for me. It's a trauma response.

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And you think about girls in school who you know,

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>act out as a trauma response. They're angry, you know,

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>especially on black girls, you know, the ones who were

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>acting out, getting into fights. What do they do? They

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>get arrested, they get suspended, you know, they get they

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>get put away, and no one looks at them and says,

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>what's what's going on? Why are you coping in this way?

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>But they get, you know, so they get that end

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum. And then you have me, who as

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a response to trauma, I am over exceeding expectations. I'm achieving, achieving,

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>And no one ever stopped and said, are you okay?

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Why are you taking Etceterrin in the morning so you

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>can stay up for class because you spent all night,

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, up working and studying because you have to

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.799
<v Speaker 1>get an a and why are you not staying home

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 1>when you're sick because you don't want to miss a

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>day of school? You know why? And my mom was

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>never putting that pressure on me. And it's just like,

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting chills now because it's just I'm in the

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>middle of this process of just figuring that out. And

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 1>so I wonder be a fan, like how many of

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.480
<v Speaker 1>y'all listening, Like how many of that? How many of

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 1>y'all does that resonate with? Because I do think the

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 1>high achievers, the ones who are, you know, getting everything

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 1>right and being perfect, I've seen in myself how that

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>can lead down a path to damage and destruction and pain.

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And it's just been really eye opening and liberating to

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>understand where that's coming from. And I hope that with

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>this book with Brown Ambition, I can unlock that realization

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people that success can be a

0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>trauma response. But now that we know that doesn't mean

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 1>that we're not going to be out here doing incredible things,

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:05.439
<v Speaker 1>but it means we're gonna learn how to sit down.

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna learn that we can rest that we're enough

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 1>that I don't have to do all the things to

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 1>be worthy that I can do what makes me happy

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and what is enough for me and find peace in that.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And I got through that whole thing without crying, So

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:28.879
<v Speaker 1>shout out to so loved. So never We're never gonna

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 1>have the right hair, the right skin color. I'm never

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna be black enough or white enough or whatever, rich enough,

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>or yeah.

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>My accent's too thick, I don't have the right connections,

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 2>my network doesn't span wide enough. I'm never gonna get

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 2>that promotion. It's like you constantly think that, but you know,

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 2>to your point is if you finally face it and go, oh,

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 2>this is why I've been like this, my whole life

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 2>can be very free. I feel like that's a beautiful.

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Thing and why it can bring about so much good

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 1>but then so much bad, and like how to find that?

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, how to be ambitious in a healthy way.

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And then I just and I was like, this is

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 1>how I'm closing out the book. This is the best

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>way to do it. So I think I've finished. I

0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>think I've written the last couple chapters of Brown Ambition,

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think I finally have answered for myself what

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I want the book to be. I didn't want it

0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to be another how to you know, I have so

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>much more to offer, I think than just then. Don't

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>worry that's going to be in there. How to negotiate,

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.359
<v Speaker 1>how to you know, how to budget, how to pay

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>off debt, how to be good at money even after

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you've been bad with it. All that is there, But

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm also sharing a lot of that personal journey and

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>it just it feels good. Makes me love myself a

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 1>lot more. And yeah, at my big age, it's not

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>too late, borant.

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 2>That is so important. I mean it's hard when you're

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 2>reading a book from somebody who doesn't have that relationship

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 2>with themselves. You can tell, you can tell. So yeah,

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I love that for everybody who's going to read Brown Ambition.

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I love the day in there too, because

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:02.439
<v Speaker 4>I mean I've read so many money books where it's

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 4>like you could tell they needed a number of pages,

0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 4>so they just start repeating the same thing about fifteen

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 4>times in the book, and I'm like, all right, I

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 4>got it, Like you know, you'll need to tell me

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 4>this again. So I like that you're integrating more because

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, money is bigger than that, whether whatever part

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 4>of money you're talking about, it's bigger than so much

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 4>of who you are and that stuff you deal with

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 4>and the way you process that and understand it impacts

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 4>the way you make decisions when it comes to your money.

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 4>So I'm excited for this book because I know it's

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:28.200
<v Speaker 4>going to be It's not gonna be one of those

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:28.839
<v Speaker 4>typical books.

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be something that gives a lot more than

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 3>just advice.

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna tell some stories, telling a lot

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:37.879
<v Speaker 1>of stories that to.

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 2>That was That's one of the biggest things that I

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 2>feel like differentiates books written by people of color in

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:48.879
<v Speaker 2>the finance and career and personal development space is that

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the stories that we have they not like us. They

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 2>don't got these stories, they don't have these experiences. They

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.719
<v Speaker 2>don't and so it just colors your book in a

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 2>very different in different pain strokes, in a different way

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of these classic money books they just

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.239
<v Speaker 2>can't They just can't do that. And that's okay. I've

0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 2>learned a lot from classic money books. I got a

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of them behind me. But it's a different interaction

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 2>with a book written by somebody who shares some of

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the traumas that you're talking about and having experienced, and

0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 2>the discrimination in the space as well, like, let's just

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 2>be real, that's what it is. And when somebody comes

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.880
<v Speaker 2>from that understanding, it's just so much easier for you

0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:28.720
<v Speaker 2>to like let your guard down and take the book

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 2>for what it's giving you and not constantly be questioning

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 2>where it's coming from. Oh but you wouldn't understand this.

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh but your parents never did, never struggled with that.

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:38.360
<v Speaker 2>You can kind of just like let that go and

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:40.680
<v Speaker 2>really get from the book what it's meant to give you.

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 2>At least that has been my experience, and that's why

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 2>I chose to write a book too, because I just

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, wait a minute, this is not easy for

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 2>me to be reading book after book after book that's

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 2>missing that secret sauce. The secret sauce is the stories

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I think ye won't see.

0:51:56.000 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I promise my sauces is sauce and not mayonnaise. Okay,

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 1>it's that Georgia's southern souls.

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, yes, it's not the Wisconsin, the Georgia.

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, thanks for listening, Va fam, Please please please read

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a review. Thank you so much. Thank you to Nellie

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and Chris for joining me at the Brown Table this week.

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll see y'all Friday for the b a q A

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<v Speaker 1>Bye