1
00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,400
Speaker 1: All right, be a fam, welcome back. I am back

2
00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,119
Speaker 1: with the Brown Table, and I have my friends, my

3
00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,000
Speaker 1: BA fam in person, well kind of virtually, but in person.

4
00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,760
Speaker 1: We got Yon Nelly Ivy League educated, the Humble hot

5
00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,119
Speaker 1: Shot from Brooklyn, New York.

6
00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:26,360
Speaker 2: Intro.

7
00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why I went, Maybe because George Foreman

8
00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,320
Speaker 1: just passed. So I was channeling like some boxing energy.

9
00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,520
Speaker 1: Rip you're not mad at him dying, well.

10
00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,640
Speaker 2: Not mad at the energy.

11
00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,920
Speaker 1: And also something okay, gotcha rip to the girl master

12
00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,200
Speaker 1: of all girl masters. He really did his big one

13
00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,080
Speaker 1: for like college students circa two thousand.

14
00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,400
Speaker 2: And every book out and every barbecue and every black

15
00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,280
Speaker 2: party in Brooklyn.

16
00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can make two paninis at a time. But

17
00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, oh man, I inherited my parents, George Foreman, Griddle.

18
00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,920
Speaker 1: I think they had like other things than just like

19
00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,880
Speaker 1: the press. The Michael Scott, you know, the one that

20
00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,160
Speaker 1: I forgot to introduce Chris and Chris.

21
00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,040
Speaker 3: I was like, at some point I'll get introduced. I

22
00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,880
Speaker 3: wasn't going to rush it, but I was like the

23
00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,160
Speaker 3: riddle speaking.

24
00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,400
Speaker 1: Of Brown University, where our Ivy League Humble Hot Shot

25
00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,600
Speaker 1: attended college. We're also joined by Chris Brown NG look

26
00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,960
Speaker 1: at that brown ambition.

27
00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,480
Speaker 4: I don't I to tell people my family is the

28
00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,920
Speaker 4: huge donor, say university, but we get you changing up

29
00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,360
Speaker 4: a little bit that way. They don't know directly that

30
00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,040
Speaker 4: it's my family.

31
00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,560
Speaker 3: But you know that's right.

32
00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:40,880
Speaker 1: Listen, clown college. You no, that's like a triple brown

33
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280
Speaker 1: brown ambition, Brown University. Yes, brown.

34
00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,600
Speaker 2: We only brought a brown university because I'm drinking from

35
00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,760
Speaker 2: my little college cup. And I was like, hold on,

36
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,440
Speaker 2: now they're not paying me to promote it, so let

37
00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 2: me cover it. But now we're promoting them anyway, so.

38
00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean half her back. Maybe they can pay you

39
00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,800
Speaker 1: to speak, and then it's all symbiotic. It's all connected,

40
00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,320
Speaker 1: you know what.

41
00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,520
Speaker 2: Actually I should have put that as my brown boost.

42
00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,840
Speaker 2: But they did buy a bunch of my books and

43
00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,280
Speaker 2: create an intro to personal financial literacy and the markets

44
00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,520
Speaker 2: for freshman seminar.

45
00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,239
Speaker 1: Yeh, nelly, that's kind of cool.

46
00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,400
Speaker 2: Oh but seriously, I was literally in tears. I was like, wait,

47
00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,280
Speaker 2: hold up, my book is all the sentiments.

48
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,799
Speaker 1: When are you gonna get your own library? When's that

49
00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:22,360
Speaker 1: going to happen?

50
00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:23,760
Speaker 2: I have to figure that out.

51
00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,920
Speaker 1: But got state schools, all right, So what's happening in

52
00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,960
Speaker 1: the world. We mentioned George Foreman passed away. Why am

53
00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,280
Speaker 1: I seeing Jonathan Major's face all over my feet everywhere

54
00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:33,639
Speaker 1: I live?

55
00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,679
Speaker 2: Girl? Because Meghan Goood is because Meghan Good is a

56
00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,160
Speaker 2: you know is what is? She just like doubly famous.

57
00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,160
Speaker 2: I just feel like there was a moment where people

58
00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,200
Speaker 2: were kind of like upset and like over him, didn't

59
00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,720
Speaker 2: want and then Meghan bought him back.

60
00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,960
Speaker 1: I just because what She's America's black sweetheart and now

61
00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:50,800
Speaker 1: he gets to benefit.

62
00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,040
Speaker 2: She was scared for her. I feel like she was

63
00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,239
Speaker 2: everybody's nineties like dreamgirl, even mine.

64
00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,079
Speaker 1: I mean, and it is still is Megan When her

65
00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,200
Speaker 1: and bow Wow did that one movie with skating, what

66
00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,200
Speaker 1: was it they were skating? I don't know.

67
00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's making good, I mean, but they do seem happy.

68
00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,320
Speaker 2: And I know this controversy around him and his violent

69
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,160
Speaker 2: passed and domestic issues.

70
00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,600
Speaker 1: With everybody and every celebrity couple seems happy, you know.

71
00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I guess a little bit that

72
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,480
Speaker 2: I have seen. But then again, I'm a hater because

73
00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,160
Speaker 2: I didn't like Rihanna with ASAP, So I don't know.

74
00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,160
Speaker 1: But oh what an a SAP do?

75
00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:26,640
Speaker 3: What do you do?

76
00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,040
Speaker 2: He just had some he had some ignorant interviews in

77
00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,960
Speaker 2: the past that I had seen, and I just wouldn't

78
00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,880
Speaker 2: let him go where he said some very misogynistic shit.

79
00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,840
Speaker 2: But you know what, maybe that was his eighteen nineteen

80
00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,560
Speaker 2: year old self. I don't know, but I just initially

81
00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,720
Speaker 2: when I heard the news, I was like, come on,

82
00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,560
Speaker 2: she can do way better. But then everybody in my

83
00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,160
Speaker 2: family was like, leave alone. She's happy, you're hating, And so.

84
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,720
Speaker 1: I know, I think we do. We care. We love Rihanna,

85
00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,480
Speaker 1: and we love making goods so much that you just

86
00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,680
Speaker 1: want it to be good on that.

87
00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,040
Speaker 2: Perfect man because they're the perfect women, so they need

88
00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,040
Speaker 2: perfect men. I don't know, that's just me. I just like,

89
00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,680
Speaker 2: come on, ladies, like we.

90
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,040
Speaker 1: Need What do you think about Jonathan Majors. Does someone

91
00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,920
Speaker 1: like Chris as a because I know as a female,

92
00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm just like dead dead it dead it Yeah, And

93
00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,680
Speaker 1: and he does. It's more than rumor. It's it's like,

94
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, there's been leaked audio, there's been footage, like

95
00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,400
Speaker 1: you know he was arrested, yes, yeah, so, but yeah,

96
00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm wondering Chris, like do you think about that? Or

97
00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,599
Speaker 1: you would you pay for a Jonathan Major's movie ticket.

98
00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,360
Speaker 4: You know, well, first of all, violence to gets women

99
00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,640
Speaker 4: by man never okay, So let me just throw that

100
00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,000
Speaker 4: out there.

101
00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,000
Speaker 3: You can never do that. That's what my dad thought me.

102
00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,520
Speaker 3: Correct its coming up, that's just you don't do that.

103
00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,200
Speaker 3: You never do that.

104
00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:41,760
Speaker 4: But after that came out, I was like, you know,

105
00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,640
Speaker 4: I can't support this. So, you know, is he a

106
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,480
Speaker 4: good actor, yes, but I mean there's a lot of

107
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,920
Speaker 4: other good actors and there's always an option to choose

108
00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,240
Speaker 4: what you want to go watch and who you want

109
00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,320
Speaker 4: to support. So to me, I'm like, hey, it's not

110
00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,640
Speaker 4: that hard to be like, you know what, I'm good.

111
00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,880
Speaker 4: I don't need to go see him in the movie

112
00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,640
Speaker 4: right now. But I think he's in the news because

113
00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,560
Speaker 4: he has I think his movie, which I thought was

114
00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,599
Speaker 4: an old movie, but it was like coming out and

115
00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,280
Speaker 4: that's why.

116
00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,000
Speaker 1: It was old because they couldn't release it because that's

117
00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,560
Speaker 1: when he was arrested and that's why they delayed it.

118
00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,919
Speaker 1: So now so a couple of years later, they're like,

119
00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,120
Speaker 1: is it is it safe now? Can we poke our

120
00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:17,520
Speaker 1: heads out?

121
00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Did people forget? Is it old news?

122
00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,880
Speaker 3: That's that's it, and that's when they intern it. Has

123
00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:23,640
Speaker 3: a short memory.

124
00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,600
Speaker 4: It kind of get throw like, you know, pushing under

125
00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,080
Speaker 4: the rug and then people are just gonna come back

126
00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,400
Speaker 4: out and see if they're okay again.

127
00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,279
Speaker 1: That's right, Honestly. I also think it has to do

128
00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,919
Speaker 1: with the level of talent of the person, like and

129
00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,400
Speaker 1: how much like I do think Jonathan Major's he, I mean,

130
00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:46,080
Speaker 1: objectively speaking, an incredible actor, you know, so intense on

131
00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,560
Speaker 1: the screen like he and I can see like the

132
00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,440
Speaker 1: how his career was just like taking off and taking off,

133
00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,599
Speaker 1: and I feel like in it on a time where

134
00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560
Speaker 1: we have so few. I mean, there's some like incredible

135
00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,360
Speaker 1: blackmail actors, but we just lost chap Chapwick, those men,

136
00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,360
Speaker 1: it feels like just yesterday, and you know, you don't

137
00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,479
Speaker 1: want to see one of the few go down like that.

138
00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,400
Speaker 1: But I do feel like if they're really really talented,

139
00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Brown is still selling out shows.

140
00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,560
Speaker 4: That's what I understanding, Because one, he messed up my

141
00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,200
Speaker 4: name years ago, because I think we're Almos sage my

142
00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,839
Speaker 4: entire life, He's messed up my name and I'm.

143
00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,440
Speaker 3: Like, how is he back famous again? I thought he

144
00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:21,720
Speaker 3: was dead.

145
00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,600
Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, Chris Brown's that old, Yes.

146
00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,120
Speaker 2: Don't you remember when he came out and he was like,

147
00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,919
Speaker 2: I'm just fifteen? Is not that one of his lyrics?

148
00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't ever go looking for him,

149
00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,240
Speaker 1: so I don't know what he looks like anymore.

150
00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,120
Speaker 2: He was a baby when he came out at fifteen.

151
00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,200
Speaker 2: So yes, even if it's been twenty years, the man

152
00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,520
Speaker 2: is still making music because he started so young.

153
00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,680
Speaker 1: Heyh yeah, yeah.

154
00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,160
Speaker 2: There you go. He started at fifteen twenty years that

155
00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,480
Speaker 2: was right, But it's so true. I do think, honestly,

156
00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,440
Speaker 2: when I'm talking to a lot of people in my experience,

157
00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,880
Speaker 2: which is obviously very anecdotal, a lot of the younger

158
00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,520
Speaker 2: I want to I want to say generation. Younger girls

159
00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,440
Speaker 2: in particular concerned me because they overlook a lot of

160
00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,000
Speaker 2: the stuff around Chris Brown and make excuses and say,

161
00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,840
Speaker 2: oh no, but but but but, like he's twenty twenty three,

162
00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,279
Speaker 2: twenty up to twenty five, twenty six years old girls,

163
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why are you still on Kris Brown

164
00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,400
Speaker 2: like that, going to his concerts, doing all this and

165
00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,400
Speaker 2: his music? Oh no, no, I love Chris Brown. I

166
00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,880
Speaker 2: don't know. And it's like, okay, is it a generational thing?

167
00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,160
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what it is, but I mean,

168
00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,840
Speaker 2: we'll make excuses out the wall zoof of this man.

169
00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,760
Speaker 2: So I I, you know, it's just an observation that

170
00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:28,520
Speaker 2: I have noted.

171
00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,880
Speaker 4: I thow time, right, because like he if you're if

172
00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,040
Speaker 4: you're young enough, right, that happened when they were probably

173
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,840
Speaker 4: even like maybe not even live or a little baby.

174
00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,320
Speaker 4: It's kind of like a grade.

175
00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,480
Speaker 2: Third grade, righte Wahlberg.

176
00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,320
Speaker 4: He just some crazy stuff, but happens so long ago.

177
00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,400
Speaker 4: People are just like, you know, they don't think about

178
00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:43,920
Speaker 4: it anymore.

179
00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,280
Speaker 1: So voided out. Probably, I just feel like what Jonathan what?

180
00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,680
Speaker 1: What bothers me the most is his like he's he's

181
00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,520
Speaker 1: almost adopted this persona of like some kind of like

182
00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, reform Yogi master. Like he's just like

183
00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,720
Speaker 1: so he's like this forced again. I keep going back

184
00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960
Speaker 1: to the quote that came out from that trial where

185
00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,200
Speaker 1: he had told his girlfriend she needed to be like

186
00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,920
Speaker 1: the credit to his MLK, to his Martin Luther King junior,

187
00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,440
Speaker 1: and be that level of poise and stature. And I

188
00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,840
Speaker 1: see he's like putting on that show as he is

189
00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:22,640
Speaker 1: this like dignified you know, actor, this this this dignified

190
00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, performer and creator and it just comes off

191
00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,920
Speaker 1: so forced and so it's so much bullshit. I don't

192
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't feel any humility, you know, I don't feel

193
00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,520
Speaker 1: the wow I hit rock bottom, I begged I I

194
00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's like Harry said to Voldemort, like try

195
00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,400
Speaker 1: for some remorse home skillet, like before you know, I

196
00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,120
Speaker 1: eat that wand out of your hand, and your own

197
00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:53,920
Speaker 1: rebounding death curse kills you like I need him. I

198
00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,560
Speaker 1: think redemption, the path to redemption is painful. It should

199
00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,520
Speaker 1: be painful. There should be remorse, there should be statements,

200
00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,000
Speaker 1: there should be work, active work. He has an opportunity

201
00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,800
Speaker 1: to rehabilitate himself publicly and to actually be an incredible

202
00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,600
Speaker 1: example for other men who have chosen violence and have

203
00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,559
Speaker 1: not have not healed them healed their inner demons, and

204
00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,400
Speaker 1: and you know, and he has an opportunity to do that.

205
00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,360
Speaker 1: And I feel like until I see that level of

206
00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,080
Speaker 1: humility and grace like in the meantime.

207
00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,280
Speaker 2: Though, I mean, or really any level, because I.

208
00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,240
Speaker 1: Will be clicking away.

209
00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,520
Speaker 2: Didn't it just get swept onto the rug? Like I

210
00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,200
Speaker 2: don't think he has.

211
00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm engaged now, yeah, yeah, totally.

212
00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,760
Speaker 2: Crying on whatever show to tell you how she means

213
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,160
Speaker 2: so much to me, and it's like, wait, did you

214
00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,880
Speaker 2: just get a whole? What happened in between? It was

215
00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,160
Speaker 2: like nothing there was. They just swept it under the rug,

216
00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,839
Speaker 2: I feel like, and it wasn't really addressed, at least

217
00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,560
Speaker 2: not by him and his pr folks.

218
00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, thank you. I need an apology tour. I

219
00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:02,280
Speaker 1: need a good one. What else is happening? Can we can?

220
00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,160
Speaker 1: I confess something? Girl?

221
00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:04,440
Speaker 2: Go?

222
00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,199
Speaker 1: I want to confess us. What am I gonna do

223
00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,960
Speaker 1: about my Tesla? Y'all? What am I going to do?

224
00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,960
Speaker 1: I feel like such a fucking clown.

225
00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,760
Speaker 2: I meant it before.

226
00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,920
Speaker 1: I was literally thinking about that on the ride. I'm like,

227
00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,720
Speaker 1: is there a bumper sticker I could put on this

228
00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,559
Speaker 1: car before you before you slash my tires?

229
00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,319
Speaker 2: Please?

230
00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,520
Speaker 3: Please?

231
00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,520
Speaker 1: It's paid off. I've had it since twenty twenty one?

232
00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,079
Speaker 2: Like, please? Is U?

233
00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,760
Speaker 4: Did you see the thing where? I think it's a

234
00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,959
Speaker 4: company called Polestar They do the other electric car. I

235
00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,880
Speaker 4: think they're under Volkswagon or Vobo. I forgot the company that,

236
00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,760
Speaker 4: but they're offering incentives for people to trade in their

237
00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,920
Speaker 4: Tesla's if they want to come over.

238
00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,880
Speaker 1: I need one of those. I need Rivian I would

239
00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,719
Speaker 1: love a Rivian because, you know, like I feel like

240
00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,840
Speaker 1: Rivian is now the progressive. I feel like brands are

241
00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,400
Speaker 1: so politicized now.

242
00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,920
Speaker 2: Totally benefiting from Tesla's downfall, totally exactly. You know, my

243
00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,000
Speaker 2: boyfriend's brother works at let me not play his business all.

244
00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,400
Speaker 2: He does work at Rivan though, But it's so funny, girl.

245
00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,640
Speaker 2: I'll look you what if you want to make it happen,

246
00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,679
Speaker 2: I got you.

247
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,920
Speaker 1: I would, I would g I will publicly, like you know,

248
00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,120
Speaker 1: put my car, put the Tesla in like one of

249
00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,240
Speaker 1: those machine like metal shredders. I'll do whatever, you know,

250
00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,040
Speaker 1: like for to do a stunt like that to get

251
00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,240
Speaker 1: a different car, because I I feel gross. I feel

252
00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,520
Speaker 1: gross riding around in that.

253
00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,600
Speaker 2: You definitely need a ghost machine. Go to a black

254
00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,560
Speaker 2: owned business that does like custom stickers and get one

255
00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,680
Speaker 2: that says I bought this before Elon went crazy, and

256
00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,719
Speaker 2: then you're supporting a black owned business. Is creative business

257
00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,400
Speaker 2: and making sure people know your position, covering yourself because.

258
00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to just get rid of the whole

259
00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,679
Speaker 1: thing now, but but at scene.

260
00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,360
Speaker 2: Time, while you're in you need something to let people know.

261
00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,720
Speaker 2: Putting nothing on your Tesla and just leaving it parked

262
00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,760
Speaker 2: outside in New York City is dangerous.

263
00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to make it look like that,

264
00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,640
Speaker 4: like it's a niece, like a Nissan and logo to

265
00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,920
Speaker 4: be like alt or something like that.

266
00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,680
Speaker 1: That's kind of funny.

267
00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,000
Speaker 2: I would let them slide on that. That's kind of funny.

268
00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,400
Speaker 2: They doing something, you know, as opposed to literally doing

269
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,480
Speaker 2: nothing where you don't have any stickers. You don't you

270
00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,439
Speaker 2: act like, oh, there's nothing. That to me is a

271
00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,880
Speaker 2: little bizarre because now you just don't think there's anything wrong.

272
00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,760
Speaker 1: I feel like people. I can feel the parents drop

273
00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,600
Speaker 1: at kids school pickup and drop off. I can feel

274
00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,439
Speaker 1: other drivers looking in the car to see who's driving it.

275
00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,960
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I'm a black woman. I must say, like,

276
00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,200
Speaker 1: I know it's incongruous, like I would explain it to you,

277
00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,000
Speaker 1: but I don't have time and like just to see

278
00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760
Speaker 1: the like, oh, I'm gonna get a sticker, all right,

279
00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,240
Speaker 1: but what's this pollstar? People like what kind of car

280
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:44,559
Speaker 1: is that?

281
00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,920
Speaker 2: What am I gonna be talking about it? But look,

282
00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,520
Speaker 2: I don't know is it evy? You gotta say yes,

283
00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,040
Speaker 2: you have to go test driving versus a rivie because

284
00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,320
Speaker 2: otherwise you won't know right, like you just gotta go

285
00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,480
Speaker 2: test driver. But everyone is talking about full Star, like

286
00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,320
Speaker 2: this is the one I want that Montesla. I've seen

287
00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,400
Speaker 2: that a couple different, in particular black women, black women

288
00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,520
Speaker 2: that I'm friends with, who have posted that.

289
00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,320
Speaker 1: Okayy want to help the other black woman who's your friend.

290
00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,440
Speaker 2: She's a doctor too, so you know, trying. She's trying

291
00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,240
Speaker 2: to not look like she pulls up to the hospital

292
00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,800
Speaker 2: and Tesla.

293
00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,480
Speaker 1: Wait, well, I'm thinking about our listeners real quick, and

294
00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,800
Speaker 1: which I always do, but y'all need to be leaving

295
00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,040
Speaker 1: some reviews please. Just as a reminder, I would love

296
00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,040
Speaker 1: y'all to go to Apple Podcasts and leave a review

297
00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,240
Speaker 1: for the show because it's been quiet over there and

298
00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I should probably read one out loud

299
00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,320
Speaker 1: because when we used to read reviews out loud, people

300
00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,360
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, well, we get my review read.

301
00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,200
Speaker 1: So I'm going to pull up a review because do it.

302
00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,880
Speaker 2: It's true, honestly, you know what it is a lot

303
00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,240
Speaker 2: of your loyal, loyal, loyal fans who come back Timetime

304
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,160
Speaker 2: again have probably left reviews in the past. But it's

305
00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,959
Speaker 2: okay to post if you updated and want to just

306
00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,040
Speaker 2: say I've been rocking with the pod since back in

307
00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,439
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, twenty sixteen, because those are those types of

308
00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,280
Speaker 2: comments really really make a difference to review algorithms.

309
00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,080
Speaker 1: My goal is to be like the Awkward Black Girl

310
00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,800
Speaker 1: YouTube channel of podcasts, you know how, like everyone likes

311
00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,080
Speaker 1: to tell Lisa like, I've been down with you since

312
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,200
Speaker 1: the ABG days. Yes, like I know, so let me

313
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,120
Speaker 1: let you know, let me know how long you've been

314
00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,520
Speaker 1: riding with BA when you leave that review, Well, here's

315
00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,040
Speaker 1: a sweet one, all right. This is from Natural End

316
00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,360
Speaker 1: to Issan, Oh Natural Intuition. She said. I love the

317
00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,680
Speaker 1: new picture. Thank you, She says, Mandy, you have transition

318
00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,720
Speaker 1: with grace. I love the new I love the new

319
00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,920
Speaker 1: new of the podcast and can't wait to keep listening.

320
00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,600
Speaker 2: I love the see girl they rocking with you. They

321
00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,760
Speaker 2: really are. And I will say I agree with that.

322
00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,040
Speaker 2: It is not easy to just keep it going and

323
00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,360
Speaker 2: act like everything's all good when you know you feel

324
00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,800
Speaker 2: like your other half and like the whole show's as

325
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,560
Speaker 2: totally different vibe. But you've really done it gracefully, I

326
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,960
Speaker 2: gotta say. And you just brought so much like fun,

327
00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,800
Speaker 2: creative energy coming up with new ideas, trying things, not

328
00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,520
Speaker 2: being afraid to try things. Like girl, I mean, I

329
00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,480
Speaker 2: know Brown Ambition is your baby, but you have really

330
00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,520
Speaker 2: really transitioned it nice. Yeah, we'll say, yeah, you really have.

331
00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,960
Speaker 3: Maddie is so creative, but I'm gonna be nice to you.

332
00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,240
Speaker 4: So you say you feel real bad when you, you know,

333
00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,200
Speaker 4: inevitably insult me.

334
00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:16,920
Speaker 3: Later on this episode.

335
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, eventually I might feel bad. Keep trying.

336
00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's so creative, so many great ideas. You

337
00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,080
Speaker 4: work so hard, So I'm very proud of you and

338
00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,440
Speaker 4: all the all the work you've transition.

339
00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,000
Speaker 3: That's hard to change things up like that.

340
00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, And I'm just so relieved. 'all don't even know.

341
00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,800
Speaker 1: I've been editing the show myself for the past few

342
00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,400
Speaker 1: months while I've been in between like working on this

343
00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,640
Speaker 1: network situation and like figuring out this new format. It's

344
00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,240
Speaker 1: been so much the level of stress. Plus my book.

345
00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh girl, I can't exactly like you know how you're

346
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,360
Speaker 1: just like in it and you can't exactly you can't

347
00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,600
Speaker 1: zoom out because if you zoom out, you'll just self

348
00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,920
Speaker 1: combust literally implode. But it was all this stuff and

349
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,600
Speaker 1: then I've had like three big book deadlines where I've

350
00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,560
Speaker 1: had to submit multiple chapters. I have another one tomorrow

351
00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,880
Speaker 1: and at the same time, and the podcast being brand new.

352
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,800
Speaker 1: It's been but at the same time, it's like it's

353
00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,560
Speaker 1: so exciting. These are blessings. I don't want to complain,

354
00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,760
Speaker 1: but it is. I said twenty twenty five smelled like money.

355
00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680
Speaker 1: I said that when the New Year changed over. I

356
00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,080
Speaker 1: was like, it really just smells, just smells like money.

357
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,400
Speaker 2: So far to ask you, you girl, how did you do it,

358
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,920
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be like, I don't know. I don't

359
00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:36,800
Speaker 2: even remember. I don't even know how I did it.

360
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,440
Speaker 2: I just did it, and I just kept going like

361
00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,320
Speaker 2: that I'll.

362
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,760
Speaker 1: Have something to tell them four am wake up calls,

363
00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,480
Speaker 1: don't get enough sleep. I think sometimes you have to

364
00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,560
Speaker 1: be like I don't. There's no like productivity hack. Sometimes

365
00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,240
Speaker 1: the hack is you work your ass off and you

366
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,360
Speaker 1: know that you can't sustain it at that level. I

367
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,000
Speaker 1: know I wasn't gonna be able to edit the show forever.

368
00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,840
Speaker 1: I didn't fool myself to think that, but I knew

369
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,840
Speaker 1: for the interim, like this is a temporary thing. I'm

370
00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,840
Speaker 1: going to find an editor with all my free time,

371
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,119
Speaker 1: and I finally did and like, now that's off my plate.

372
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,960
Speaker 1: Shout out to Carla and Courtney Black owned Latina after

373
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:22,679
Speaker 1: Latina owned editing company. So very excited that, you know

374
00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,520
Speaker 1: my sister speaking in which I visited my sister in Wisconsin.

375
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,479
Speaker 1: She's doing so much better. Be a faan I might

376
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,720
Speaker 1: have shared a little bit. My sister donated a kidney.

377
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,440
Speaker 1: She's a living donor, a god angel on earth, and

378
00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,840
Speaker 1: for all of her trouble, she ended up with a

379
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,920
Speaker 1: very rare like complication. So for anyone who's thinking about

380
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,359
Speaker 1: organ donation, Like I mean, already we knew it was

381
00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,199
Speaker 1: a serious surgery, but it's obviously quite common common ish.

382
00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,240
Speaker 1: So anyway, you really hoped, you know, the surgeon had

383
00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,040
Speaker 1: done like a gajillion of them, so you hope that

384
00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,280
Speaker 1: it's just going to be textbook. But she had a

385
00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,080
Speaker 1: rare complication which caused her like severe, severe, like agonizing

386
00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,840
Speaker 1: nerve pain, which is it's the y'all y'all have experience

387
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,040
Speaker 1: with like anyone who's ever had like a nerve pain condition,

388
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,520
Speaker 1: chronic pain. But it's the worst thing about it is

389
00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,000
Speaker 1: the way that doctors don't really know how to treat it,

390
00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,919
Speaker 1: except for with really strong opioids, Like I mean, she

391
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,320
Speaker 1: left the hospital with mad she left the hospital with

392
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,560
Speaker 1: oxy with fentanyl patch. She had been on ketamine, like

393
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 1: there is dilouded. There's like these really strong and they're like,

394
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,360
Speaker 1: we don't give these medicines to people who aren't dying

395
00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,640
Speaker 1: of cancer. Like that's how painful it was. But thank

396
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 1: the Lord. I mean, it took way too long. It's

397
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,320
Speaker 1: been over two months, but she was able to finally

398
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,120
Speaker 1: get some treatment to actually target the nerve that's that's

399
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,200
Speaker 1: been damaged and set. The worst part is that your nerves.

400
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean there's some surgical intervention. Obviously I'm not a neurologist,

401
00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,560
Speaker 1: but but for in her case, anyway, it has to

402
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 1: heal itself, you know, like there's probably not going to

403
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 1: be oh, if we just go in and put this

404
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,760
Speaker 1: band aid there, you know whatever, that's not what they

405
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 1: would do. But you know what I mean, Like so,

406
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: but she was out of work, you know, and my

407
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 1: heart goes Plus what the medication she was on, Like

408
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 1: I said, Mallory, don't be telling anybody. By the way,

409
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 1: I shouldn't probably have said how many. But she doesn't

410
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,560
Speaker 1: have them anymore. She's off of the really heavy ones,

411
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: which is part of the good thing. But it's so

412
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 1: hard to treat chronic pain. And then she burned through

413
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: her sick leave, burned through the FMLA even Yeah, it's

414
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 1: really tough.

415
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:37,840
Speaker 2: At that point.

416
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: That's so hard. Yeah, how's she doing now? Like percentage wise?

417
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 3: Where is she yet? Getting back to normal?

418
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 1: Honestly? Every day? I mean I was there for four

419
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,560
Speaker 1: days and I think we had two good days and

420
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,640
Speaker 1: two not so good days. And it really depends on

421
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 1: if she can stay on top of the pain with

422
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: her medication. So is she taking it at the right times,

423
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 1: And sometimes you're sleepy and you miss a dose or

424
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: you're late with something, and then the pain it's hard

425
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 1: to catch up with the pain medication at that point.

426
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,959
Speaker 1: And then also she is my mother's daughter, as am I,

427
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: and we have a hard time. Actually, I'm really good

428
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 1: at taking a rest. These two though they on some

429
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 1: other ish they cannot sit still. They want to be

430
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 1: cooking and going out and about and cleaning dishes and

431
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 1: folding shit. And I'm just like you guys, I'm laid

432
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 1: up on the couch because whenever my mom is around,

433
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm fully fifteen again in my head. I'm just like,

434
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm mom, dear, and so yeah, so she

435
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: she you know, would do a little too much and

436
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: then it would be a tough day.

437
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's hard. Some people though, like they're just

438
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 2: wired that way. Like my oldest sister. There's nine siblings

439
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 2: in my family, and the oldest sister, the firstborn, she

440
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,679
Speaker 2: is like she's like your sister and your mom. She

441
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 2: just cannot sit and rest. I mean, she just it

442
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: like it pains her to not be to not feel

443
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: productive in whatever way, whether she's doing laundry, cleaning, cooking, dusting,

444
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 2: something out in her garden doing stuff. Was like, girl,

445
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: what like she has a garden. She lives in New

446
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: York City, and she has a garden in her yard

447
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: so that she can constantly be doing you know, because otherwise, Yeah,

448
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: Like mentally, I think she feels drained when she's not

449
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 2: quote unquote productive. But that is just it takes a time.

450
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: That's crazy. She feels drained by not doing something mentally

451
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: right mentally because that's the thing, right, Like, eventually the

452
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: draining switches over from your being mentally drained to now

453
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: physically your body's literally telling you.

454
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 2: You need to stop you need to chill. And then

455
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 2: eventually when it gets to that point, it's like it's

456
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 2: it's a little late. No, it's never too late. But

457
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: of course it's late because you've been constantly pushing yourself

458
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: past the point of that is reasonable. But yeaht one point,

459
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 2: she she turned some which way. I don't even remember

460
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: what happened, but her ankle. She was just literally walking

461
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 2: and then turned around in the wrong direction or in

462
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 2: the wrong way on her foot and had to stop

463
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,719
Speaker 2: and actually like go, she had to what happens, She

464
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: had to get a brace on her foot.

465
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: Get injured, and then you finally forced to sit.

466
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 2: Down exactly exactly. So, either you choose to rest or

467
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: your body's gonna force you to rest.

468
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: That's true.

469
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 4: That's why I prayably rest. I love not doing anything.

470
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 4: Give me, give me a sake, and give me a chair.

471
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go sit in it. I'm good.

472
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

473
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: You've been going to the gym, You've been getting your

474
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: little steps in on them hills.

475
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 3: I had to be doing. I do like a good walk,

476
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 3: but I also please let me sit down. I rest.

477
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: Rest are best friends. I love it.

478
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: I'm really good at just being a couch like decoration,

479
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: couch trotting as they say. You know what, I realized

480
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not very good at sitting in silence though, because

481
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: my sister's house is so quiet, like there's no like

482
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: TV on. Listen, listen and shout out to my Wisconsin people.

483
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: My mom is always like, you don't you don't love

484
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: your Wisconsin heritage. I'm like mommy the way that when

485
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: I went I landed, she lives like in a tiny

486
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: town in Wisconsin too, shout out to Lacrosse and we

487
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: when I landed in the teenious plane, ever, we went

488
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: straight to the grocery store because again mom and sister,

489
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: we don't cook something. And I had took this video.

490
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: I was, y'all, y'all don't understand the number of ways

491
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: Wisconsin people know how to make a salad. And not

492
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: like a green salad. I'm talking mayo or some sort

493
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 1: of like creamy substance, maybe a sour cream macaroni salad,

494
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: pistachio salad. Jello and the jello. The jello I'm going

495
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: to show you guys after this, Like the there was

496
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: literally like gourmet perfect cubes of jello, just gallons of them,

497
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, people just show up and buy this

498
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: much jello.

499
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to picture what that is.

500
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like your salad in Wisconsin's usually a mix

501
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: of like mayonnaise is the ideal, maybe sour cream, you know,

502
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: or some kind of yeah aoli situation, but probably mayonnaise.

503
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: And then the fluffs are made if I'm remembering correctly,

504
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: with like maybe maybe like a whipped cream because it's fluffy.

505
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: So like at Christmas, my mom my grandma would make

506
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: cranberry fluff, which would be like a mix of like

507
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: cranberry sauce and whipped cream. I think whipped up. I'm sorry,

508
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm not endorsing it. I'm just saying there's a culture

509
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: y'all want to put. There's a culture in Wisconsin, and

510
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: that is it. It is the culture of fluffs and

511
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 1: mayonnaise salads, deli salads.

512
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 2: If they put it on something like like like you know,

513
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: like flying or like a cheesecake with fluff on top

514
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: or something, but why they just eating the fluff.

515
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: It is the dish, see that I can't. I don't

516
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: have a little dollipup fluff on your plate, on your

517
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: plate heritage fork spoon, Oh, you mean, like, what do

518
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: you what is it pair well with.

519
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: What?

520
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm why do you think that it has

521
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: different notes? The notes of the the cranberry fluff crisp

522
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: pairs really well with the orange jello. I would uh,

523
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: the orange jello and the shape of a cube, Yeah,

524
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: that would pair well with it. Also, maybe a broccoli salad,

525
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, extra creamy would pair nicely with a fluff.

526
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: And you know you wash it down with some like

527
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: German or Irish beer, a Guinness. I don't know, bloom,

528
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

529
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: Whether you're going further and further away from where my

530
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 2: mind and stomach want to be.

531
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: And cheese curds. Just throw some cheese curds on top.

532
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: There you go.

533
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: Question like is it just like yeah, people's stomachs just

534
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: like upset all the time.

535
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: Yes, First of all, I'm dairy free. It's yes. The number. Yes,

536
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: there were many jokes about how everyone had to take

537
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: some time with the porcelain God after certain meals. Yeah,

538
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: but what am I gonna say?

539
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking this up and you're right, they got.

540
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm right. It's my heritage. I am a

541
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: cultural ambassador for Wisconsin.

542
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: Pineapples with marshmallows and pistachia pudding.

543
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: Wow.

544
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom always told me don't say yuck to

545
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: food because you don't want somebody's young, or you know, offensive,

546
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: somebody you don't want to or whatever. But at the

547
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: same time, whatever.

548
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: Dominican moms are so shady and get out of here.

549
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: Girl. The stuff my mom be cooking, I know she

550
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: ain't talking, really, I know, I think. I think it's

551
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: Chitlin's chills, mondongle, mondongle.

552
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: It's very different than you have. I'm sorry Christ's blushing.

553
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know a top of a bald head could blush. Here.

554
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: I sent you a forty It took me forty six

555
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: seconds to film the number of salads up seafood salad

556
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: with imitation crabs we have. Look at the Just wait

557
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: till you see the jello. It'll come through finger. They

558
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: call it finger jello.

559
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Is that what it is?

560
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: You'll have to look probably two. This is like a

561
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: two finger jello. They make a healthy porsche. Okay, some

562
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: kind of macaroni salad. The jello took me out. Potato salad.

563
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: Wait till you see the ham spread. Wait until you

564
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: see the ham salad.

565
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: Like lego blocks, all jello blocks, chicken rotisserie salad, Cashi

566
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: broccoli salad.

567
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: You know what I actually do, fuck with broccoli salad.

568
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: It's actually delicious if you don't over mao it look

569
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: at you Ellie's.

570
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: Face spread ham spread sounds and looks.

571
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: Bacon ranch salad, poppy seed chicken salad, bacon cheddar, rotelli

572
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: pasta salad.

573
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: Because it's like half of it is missing off.

574
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: Summer fresh pasta salad of course, tuna salad, the o

575
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: G Macaroni Supreme. And I see peas, some peas in there.

576
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: I told you I don't lie.

577
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: You know, I could have kept going. You learned something today.

578
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: I dedicate you know what. I dedicate this part of

579
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the show to my grandma. Shout out to Doris Dutton

580
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: uh nay Ninimon from Brown Deer, Wisconsin. Shout out to

581
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: James Dutton, my grandpa, May they rest in peace, and

582
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: my mom, Laurie Dutton. If y'all didn't know, now you

583
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: know that's where I come from. I don't actually was

584
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: born in Georgia, born and bred around Atlanta, but yeah,

585
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: I do have my Wisconsin roots.

586
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was to say we're Wisconsin roots, because I

587
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: thought you were from Atlanta.

588
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: But my mom is from Wisconsin. She moved out. She's

589
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: a break lady. She moved from She. I grew up

590
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Irish Catholic, you know, family of five. Mom was a

591
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: school teacher, dad was a brick mason. Then at like eighteen,

592
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: her and her best friend were like, let's go to Atlanta.

593
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: It seems hot, seems popping down there. I don't know

594
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: where they got their news at the time, so they

595
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: hop in the car. They don't go to college. They

596
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: move to Atlanta. They get jobs as waiters. She meets

597
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: my dad at an ihop. They're both waiters. I was

598
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: going to get into some of my brown boosts a

599
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: little bit, but I'll do it now. But like having

600
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: to be I always felt this need to be sparkly

601
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: and fun and charming and successful and talented to warrant

602
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: my space in that family, like that side of the family,

603
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: because I feel like it was stories like that that

604
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: I was told from starting getting real deep. We went

605
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: from like finger jello to racial trauma. But but like, yeah, exactly,

606
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: I thought, really and the bar in real life was

607
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: so low it was cranberry fluff and I was trying

608
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: to be Michelin star, you know what I mean, to

609
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: have a seat at that table. Really didn't need to

610
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: try that hard, but I yeah, I did. I from

611
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: a young age, I like I was so out of

612
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: felt so out of place on that side of the

613
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: family that I did think that in order to like

614
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: be accepted, it had to be exceptional. And that probably

615
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: came from them like looking.

616
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: At me, like you'll never be good enough?

617
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: Like who that black baby?

618
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: Right?

619
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: Where's my pretty white bait?

620
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: They gave you that vibe if you'll never be good enough?

621
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: You didn't come from nowhere. You didn't You didn't come

622
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: into your head out of nowhere, right, that's yeah. Fact? Okay, girl,

623
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: Well you know I couldn't help it, but look it

624
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: up and there's so many interesting things here. Flutter nutter.

625
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: The sandwich was made made of marshmallow, marshmallow and peanut butter.

626
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: Peanut butter, Yeah, that's delicious.

627
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: Though you ever tried a peanut butter fluffed sandwich? Delicious?

628
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: Okay? Now that one is eating in wisconstant, But it

629
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: didn't come from it comes from the New England areas

630
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: of Massachusetts is where it started in the nineteen hundreds,

631
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: and then you got Watergate salad. What pistachio pudding whipped

632
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: topping in canned pineapple is called a watergate salad?

633
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: My grandma does did and what is it called pistachio?

634
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: We I don't know what. Why is the pistachio so popular?

635
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: But there is a pistachio pudding dessert that we do

636
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: and we tear it up. It's neon green. Its delicious.

637
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: I'm looking at it now. Can you tell me why

638
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: there's cherries on top of this? Those little marachino cherries?

639
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: Why is that on this?

640
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: This not too much on my people?

641
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: Y'all?

642
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Hey, all right, we're gonna take a quick break, ba fam.

643
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: I hope that you weren't eating while you were listening

644
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: to this. We might have made you regret that choice.

645
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: And if you're hungry, then maybe you should see your

646
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: pastor about that, or your spiritual guid guiter, your spiritual

647
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: guide to find out why. Be right back with our

648
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: brown booth Brown Break see you then? All right, we're back,

649
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: ba fam. I am joined by yan nellispinal In Chris Browning,

650
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: and we are going to do Brown Boost Brown Break.

651
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: Are you guys ready? You know what you're gonna do,

652
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: boost or break.

653
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: I am ready watergate salad.

654
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: Should we let Cris go first?

655
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do it anything? I was ready? What would I

656
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: get for?

657
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: You're never ready? All right, y'all? Ellick, you can go first, girl,

658
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: all right.

659
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: I'll go first. My brown break is that I noticed

660
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: a lot of the youngins in my family. They don't

661
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 2: want to use real banks. They've been hitting me up

662
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 2: like oh the young yeah, like the the nineteen to

663
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five. They think cash Up is

664
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: the bank. Like they set up their direct deposit into

665
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: their cash app. They have a cash app card, and

666
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: they think that they're banking, and I'm like, wait minute,

667
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: Like that's if anything were to happen to cash Is

668
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: that FDAC in shirt. It's not FDIC shirt. Now, there's

669
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: a loophole where if you if you follow like three

670
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: steps or four steps, like if you set up direct deposit,

671
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: you get the cash up card. You do you have

672
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: a deposit of a minimum a certain amount every two

673
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: weeks or whatever. Then you get what's called passed through

674
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: FDIC insurance coverage through their partner bank. So it's not

675
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: because they are not a charter bank. Cash at Venmo.

676
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: They can't they PayPal, they can't give you FSC insurance

677
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: because they're not chartered banks, but they can pass through

678
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: the insurance of the bank that they're partnering with. They

679
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: hold your money while they show you the interface of

680
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: the tech. So I try to explain that to my

681
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: nieces and to my brother, my younger brother, and I'm like,

682
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, and oh no, no, I have passed to FDS.

683
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: It says that on their site, and I'm like, okay,

684
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: but that only protects you from the from the bank

685
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: that's holding the money going under. But there's nothing protecting

686
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,719
Speaker 2: you from like cash up going under or you know,

687
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: or whatever in any case like PayPal or venbo whatever,

688
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: there's no protection around these. So I'm I'm just a

689
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: little nervous now, and I'm curious how wide spread this

690
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: is of, Like, is this a generational thing where these

691
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: younger generations are getting targeted by these apps that are

692
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: basically looking like banks, acting like banks, borderline calling themselves bank,

693
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: but they're not actually banks, y'all. Like we need actual

694
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: depository institutions. You need to go to a credit union,

695
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: you need to go to a community bank, you need

696
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: to go to a regular bank, like you need an

697
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: account that is actually protected and ensured. And I just

698
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: thought that people would get that, especially after like Silicon

699
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: Valley Bank and Signature Bank and some of the bank

700
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: failures from a couple of years ago. But I don't know.

701
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: I think some of these youngins really do think that

702
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: with all the tech, the new kind of cool trendy

703
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: tech stuff, that they're covered or that that's that they

704
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: got what they need because they even you know, giving

705
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: debit cards and things like that.

706
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, Benmo does that too. Is that the same thing?

707
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: It's always trying to prompt me for a debit card.

708
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no thing care name.

709
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: They keep sending me notifications and emails and all that.

710
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm curious about it. And I want

711
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: to encourage you. If you're listening to this and you

712
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: have a young en in your life, a young person

713
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: that you care about, check in with them. Make sure

714
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: they actually understand that these apps are technology that allows

715
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: you to engage with the money that you have sitting

716
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: in an account at a bank. But they are not banks,

717
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: so you gotta have yeah, whether it's a credit union

718
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: or a bank, accounts up don't be thinking that you're

719
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: banking and you have nothing but a cash app little

720
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: wallet and some cash in there, and don't leave the

721
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: money in the cash app or in the Venmo wallets

722
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: too long.

723
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: You know, they're all doing that. That's probably why they're

724
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's why they're offering debit cards. They're like, well,

725
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: they're people are using it as a bank account anyway, right.

726
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: So we might as well emulate that. But you're not

727
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: getting you know, high yield, you're not.

728
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: Getting I bet those debit cards charge fees too.

729
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: Right, So we gotta I gotta look into that more

730
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 2: because I was just so afraid of, like how normal

731
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: it was. My little brother like, yeah, I just use

732
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: cash up as my bank. I was like, hold up, bro,

733
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: not miss Beehulples little brother not having an those bank account.

734
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: What's going on here? Like this is not acceptable, bro?

735
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: So anyway, just talk to the young you know, check

736
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: in on them, because unfortunately, I do think these tech

737
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: companies go out of their way to make young people think, hey,

738
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: it looks like a bank, It functions like a bank.

739
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: You know, when I log in, it has a debit card,

740
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: and like it must dollar sign. Yeah, it holds my money,

741
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: it must be a bank. And unfortunately that it's just

742
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: not right.

743
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think too, because like the banking

744
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 4: industry is still even though it's modernized, it's still behind, right,

745
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 4: Like it's so easy to open up a cash app account, Venmo, PayPal,

746
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: all these sayings, it's so easy, Robinhood, you know, put

747
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: all these accounts on your phone. Where banking really has

748
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: it and modernized that way, and I mean some reasons,

749
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: it's for good reason, you know, the regulations kind of

750
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 4: make it me a little bit more difficult to open

751
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: up an account. But I mean, I think a lot

752
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: of people don't go to these like online banks where

753
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: it is a little more modernized. You can open it

754
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 4: up online. You don't got to go to a branch

755
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: and sign a piece of paperwork and all that stuff.

756
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: But I don't think enough people know about it. And

757
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: but they do.

758
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: Everyone knows about cash app and it looks it looks good,

759
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: it's easy to use, and some people just go that

760
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: way without thinking about you know, some other benefits. Like

761
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: you said, but you don't have a savings account really,

762
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 4: and then some of them do. But it ain't gonna

763
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: be FDIC insured it's this whole nonsense that it the

764
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: younger people kind of are in this weird middle ground.

765
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 4: This is like the best option of them in their mind.

766
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also it's not it's I don't even blame them.

767
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: I do think they're being targeted. Like when you look

768
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: at the way that cash apps spends their money, they

769
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: have where Megan thee Stallion is teaching you what bitcoin

770
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: is to try to encourage you to go buy bitcoin

771
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 2: on the cash app platform, and like, come on, now,

772
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: we all know who they're ultimately targeting when they put

773
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Megan the Stallion in their ads and not tell a swift.

774
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: So I do think that part of it is a

775
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: little bit like we have to hold them accountable because

776
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: they are actively targeting young black and brown consumers who

777
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: are the ones that are the furthest like a way

778
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: to being served properly from banks in the first place.

779
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: And so it's just and already unbanked or under bank.

780
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: Under bank for the most part, right, So it's just giving.

781
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: It's giving problematic a little bit.

782
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: Do you get your paycheck deposited to your cash app?

783
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: Yes, you can see that's yep. And again it looked

784
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: like a bank. It acts like a bank, it must

785
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: be a bank. That's not true.

786
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's okay.

787
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: The older generations though, because I worked at bank for years,

788
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 4: like when I was in college, and the thing is like,

789
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: in I worked in a neighborhood I grew up in.

790
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: It was a poor neighborhood. A lot of people will

791
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: get screw it over by the banks.

792
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: They were getting hit with all these over draft fees,

793
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: they were getting hit with all these other penalties that

794
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: were getting on check systems. So then they wouldn't have

795
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 4: bank accounts. And so I think already for their probably

796
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: the parents of these kids, they grew up an environment,

797
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: especially if you're in a lower income area, where it's like,

798
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: don't go to the bank.

799
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: The bank is already gonna like it.

800
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 4: I can't, I can't open account anyway, So it's not

801
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 4: gonna teach me to go oput an account there. But

802
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: there's these new alternatives that kind of bypass all of that,

803
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 4: and I feel like it's created a really great environment

804
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: for people to be like, you know what, why even

805
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 4: go to a bank and deal with that. My family

806
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: and parents that have one anyways, let me go over here.

807
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: This is so much easier that's the fact.

808
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: That's a great point, all right, Chris, what's your boost?

809
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: Like I caught up in your ellis breaks. I wasn't

810
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: even thinking about it anymore, but you.

811
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: Know, I would say my break is my brown break

812
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: is getting sick because I got sick last week.

813
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: Shout out to my niece. Give me all the viruses

814
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 3: and diseases.

815
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Flavor did you get this time? Little influenza, little hand,

816
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: foot of mouthcocksacky, terrible word love saying.

817
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 4: It's just a regular old cold because she I went

818
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 4: over there because I was I was visiting back.

819
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 1: Home Corona with my brother.

820
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: Her nose was running the entire time, just a little

821
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 4: snap out that nose. And I know she got me.

822
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: You know, she's all cute, but at some point she

823
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: I'm sure she sneezed in my eye or something.

824
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: Then and now, if you.

825
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Started eating your lunch because you didn't want to eat

826
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: it in the first half of the show because we

827
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: were talking about too many salads and you started right now,

828
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm also sorry.

829
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: People are gonna end the episode just nauseous. That's what's

830
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: gonna do you have.

831
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: A go to cold remedy? What do you do? Dudes

832
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: have the funniest things they do when they're sick to

833
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: get better.

834
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: Go ahead, just rest it out.

835
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: That's all I do. I did nothing, rested out. Give

836
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: me some vitamin see and drip some tea. I have

837
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: eat about three bags worth the cough drops. Then you know,

838
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: at some point and you start feeling bad.

839
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Bags just three.

840
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: I had a friend who said he just drank gallon

841
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: after gallon of water to flush it out. I'm like,

842
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna unsalinate your blood and your fluids and and

843
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: in the hospital.

844
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: People better talk a lot about dehydration, but there is

845
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: such thing as overhydrating. Chill out, chill out.

846
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: Now, you can sweat it out. You have sweat it

847
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: all out. Yeah, take a bunch of naps and then

848
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: you know. It took me about a week.

849
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of that. I don't know. For some reason when

850
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: you said sweat it out, I started thinking about my

851
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: brain moves really fast. It was like hot yoga, yoga, meditation.

852
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm doing a sound bath tomorrow. I'm very excited about that.

853
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: You never tried one, Chris.

854
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: You would like it, Chris, you would like it. I've

855
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: done a few of them, and especially since I moved

856
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: to Miami, they do a lot of them down by

857
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: the beach, which is so beautiful. Every chance I get,

858
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: I'll go on. It is so nice. So Mandy, where

859
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: are you doing?

860
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: This?

861
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: Is it at yoga studio?

862
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: It is at an actual sound like this is what

863
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: they do. And so I've only done it once before,

864
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: but it was so exquisite. Like the feeling that I had,

865
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: I just wish I could have floated and been. I

866
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: didn't wish I had to get in the car and

867
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: drive after because I was just so it's just when

868
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: you're really focused on the meditation and when you get

869
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: to them and it is a practice, like I have

870
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: to do it and practice at it when you have

871
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: a really good one, I genuinely, and I don't. I

872
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: don't have. I don't smoke a lot. I don't smoke

873
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: at all, really, but I don't take edibles. But when

874
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: I have and I've had a little bit of a high,

875
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: I genuinely it's crazy how you can produce that sensation

876
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: in your own body, like that calm and the humming

877
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: through you, and it was amazing. So the place I'm

878
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: and that was at like my local nature preserve. You know,

879
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't anything special cool.

880
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Okay, well, but when I'm going to I didn't know

881
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: what a sound bath was until one of my friends

882
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: invited me like two years ago. So the people listening

883
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: are like, she's going to a what a baff of

884
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 2: what what.

885
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: To do it? Just google it, go find one and

886
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: go do it.

887
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: True?

888
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they have. It's the one with the

889
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: bowls where they make them. That's not the sound because

890
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be relaxing, but they make them, and this

891
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: is the place that I'm going to. It looks so beautiful.

892
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: They have like beautiful chaise lounges that we're going to

893
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: lay in with like pillows. We're gonna be so comfy,

894
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: not on the hard floor the yoga matt like I.

895
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 3: Was last time.

896
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: That's why I've done it. Yeah, I've done it.

897
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: But that's not my boost though.

898
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that was a little half boost.

899
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: That was a half boost. That was just that was

900
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: just an ADHD tangent where we went down that little road,

901
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: a little side show. But my boost boost her break break.

902
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: All right. So I'm writing this book, y'all know. It's

903
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: going to be called Brown Ambition, and I have the

904
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: most incredible black woman publisher. Her name was Krishn Trautman.

905
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: Legis is the legacy lit at Hashet. It's an imprint

906
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: at one of the top five publishers that really focuses

907
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: on amplifying b IPOC voices. And anyhow, I got this

908
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: book deal almost two years ago, and I have been writing.

909
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I've probably written one hundred and fifty thousand

910
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: words by now, and half of them will not end

911
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: up in the book. But I've just been writing and writing.

912
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: And one of the credible things is sometimes I'll just

913
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: have these like epiphanies as I'm writing. And I had

914
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: one of those when I was, you know, full up

915
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: on my macaroni salad in Wisconsin this past weekend. But yeah,

916
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: belly full of fluff really brought it out of me.

917
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: But anytime I'm waiting for my children, I'm like, oh,

918
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write all day. And so I had these

919
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: like intense I had this intense writing session. And it's

920
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: in the chapter where I talk about my therapy journey

921
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: and how I have found a lot of the like.

922
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: So I use a particular kind of therapy called DBT

923
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: that I did a I just graduated actually from a

924
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: I think I might have told you guys a two

925
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: like a twenty week DBT training thing and anyhow, And

926
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to connect the dots between how these like

927
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: skills that I've learned, these coping skills for stress can

928
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: really apply to you know, your finances and your career

929
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: and all of that. And as I'm writing it, I'm

930
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: starting to think about just the word ambition and how

931
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: I've always in Tiff and I talked about before too,

932
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: like we always sort of had this this like dual

933
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: way of thinking about ambition. It's amazing, we want to

934
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: celebrate it, but ambition can sometimes drive us into like

935
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: really unhealthy habits and really unhealthy ways of soothing ourselves.

936
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Like if I just get this money, if I just

937
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: if I launched this business, if I get this you know,

938
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: if I get this accolade, if I succeed here, then

939
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: what then, like in that blank, that blank space, like

940
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: what would you fill that with? What is it that

941
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: you're really chasing? And I had said on my whole

942
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: life that it was around financial security, you know, raised

943
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: by a single mom, saw my mom go through a

944
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: divorce financially you know, insecure, and then also my dad

945
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: had his issues, and I went to school thinking, well,

946
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I can't. I don't want to be unsafe

947
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: like that. I don't want to be insecureate that. So

948
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to make as much money as possible. But

949
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: in writing the chapter and peeling back the layers and

950
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: I kind of talked about it a little bit earlier,

951
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: but I started to realize that and this was really

952
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 1: it was kind of it was very like, it's sad,

953
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: but it's also like, Wow, I'm understanding myself so much better.

954
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: I realize why my whole life, I've had this inner

955
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: drive to be successful, to be the best, and to

956
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: get the a's and the four point zero and get

957
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: the best score and get into a good school and

958
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: you know, join all the clubs and be the president

959
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: of this and that and like, and then put so

960
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: much on my plate that I wind up suffering because

961
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've taken on so much for not the

962
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: right reasons. I've taken on so much because I wasn't

963
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: chasing financial security. I was chasing like self worth. I

964
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: was chasing this idea that I have nothing else going

965
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: for me but the things that I can do, accomplish, earn,

966
00:45:54,239 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: get create, and I it's almost as if my like,

967
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: so now my mind has caught up to like I

968
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: can intellectually, I get caught up to the to how

969
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: I was processing and like why I was doing that.

970
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: And what I've realized is like success in ambition, that's

971
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: a form of trauma response. Like success and ambition, it

972
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: can be a trauma response for me. It's a trauma response.

973
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: And you think about girls in school who you know,

974
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: act out as a trauma response. They're angry, you know,

975
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: especially on black girls, you know, the ones who were

976
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: acting out, getting into fights. What do they do? They

977
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: get arrested, they get suspended, you know, they get they

978
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: get put away, and no one looks at them and says,

979
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: what's what's going on? Why are you coping in this way?

980
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: But they get, you know, so they get that end

981
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: of the spectrum. And then you have me, who as

982
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: a response to trauma, I am over exceeding expectations. I'm achieving, achieving,

983
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: And no one ever stopped and said, are you okay?

984
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: Why are you taking Etceterrin in the morning so you

985
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: can stay up for class because you spent all night,

986
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, up working and studying because you have to

987
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: get an a and why are you not staying home

988
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: when you're sick because you don't want to miss a

989
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: day of school? You know why? And my mom was

990
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: never putting that pressure on me. And it's just like,

991
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting chills now because it's just I'm in the

992
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: middle of this process of just figuring that out. And

993
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: so I wonder be a fan, like how many of

994
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: y'all listening, Like how many of that? How many of

995
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: y'all does that resonate with? Because I do think the

996
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: high achievers, the ones who are, you know, getting everything

997
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: right and being perfect, I've seen in myself how that

998
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: can lead down a path to damage and destruction and pain.

999
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: And it's just been really eye opening and liberating to

1000
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: understand where that's coming from. And I hope that with

1001
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: this book with Brown Ambition, I can unlock that realization

1002
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: for a lot of people that success can be a

1003
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: trauma response. But now that we know that doesn't mean

1004
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: that we're not going to be out here doing incredible things,

1005
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: but it means we're gonna learn how to sit down.

1006
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna learn that we can rest that we're enough

1007
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: that I don't have to do all the things to

1008
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: be worthy that I can do what makes me happy

1009
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: and what is enough for me and find peace in that.

1010
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: And I got through that whole thing without crying, So

1011
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: shout out to so loved. So never We're never gonna

1012
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: have the right hair, the right skin color. I'm never

1013
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: gonna be black enough or white enough or whatever, rich enough,

1014
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: or yeah.

1015
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: My accent's too thick, I don't have the right connections,

1016
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: my network doesn't span wide enough. I'm never gonna get

1017
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: that promotion. It's like you constantly think that, but you know,

1018
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: to your point is if you finally face it and go, oh,

1019
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: this is why I've been like this, my whole life

1020
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: can be very free. I feel like that's a beautiful.

1021
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: Thing and why it can bring about so much good

1022
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: but then so much bad, and like how to find that?

1023
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: You know, how to be ambitious in a healthy way.

1024
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: And then I just and I was like, this is

1025
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: how I'm closing out the book. This is the best

1026
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: way to do it. So I think I've finished. I

1027
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: think I've written the last couple chapters of Brown Ambition,

1028
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: and I think I finally have answered for myself what

1029
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: I want the book to be. I didn't want it

1030
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: to be another how to you know, I have so

1031
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: much more to offer, I think than just then. Don't

1032
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: worry that's going to be in there. How to negotiate,

1033
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: how to you know, how to budget, how to pay

1034
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: off debt, how to be good at money even after

1035
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: you've been bad with it. All that is there, But

1036
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm also sharing a lot of that personal journey and

1037
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: it just it feels good. Makes me love myself a

1038
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: lot more. And yeah, at my big age, it's not

1039
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: too late, borant.

1040
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: That is so important. I mean it's hard when you're

1041
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: reading a book from somebody who doesn't have that relationship

1042
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: with themselves. You can tell, you can tell. So yeah,

1043
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: I love that for everybody who's going to read Brown Ambition.

1044
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love the day in there too, because

1045
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 4: I mean I've read so many money books where it's

1046
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 4: like you could tell they needed a number of pages,

1047
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: so they just start repeating the same thing about fifteen

1048
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 4: times in the book, and I'm like, all right, I

1049
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: got it, Like you know, you'll need to tell me

1050
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 4: this again. So I like that you're integrating more because

1051
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: I mean, money is bigger than that, whether whatever part

1052
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: of money you're talking about, it's bigger than so much

1053
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: of who you are and that stuff you deal with

1054
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: and the way you process that and understand it impacts

1055
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: the way you make decisions when it comes to your money.

1056
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 4: So I'm excited for this book because I know it's

1057
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: going to be It's not gonna be one of those

1058
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 4: typical books.

1059
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: It's gonna be something that gives a lot more than

1060
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: just advice.

1061
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell some stories, telling a lot

1062
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: of stories that to.

1063
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: That was That's one of the biggest things that I

1064
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: feel like differentiates books written by people of color in

1065
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: the finance and career and personal development space is that

1066
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: the stories that we have they not like us. They

1067
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 2: don't got these stories, they don't have these experiences. They

1068
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: don't and so it just colors your book in a

1069
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: very different in different pain strokes, in a different way

1070
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: that a lot of these classic money books they just

1071
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: can't They just can't do that. And that's okay. I've

1072
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: learned a lot from classic money books. I got a

1073
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: lot of them behind me. But it's a different interaction

1074
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: with a book written by somebody who shares some of

1075
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: the traumas that you're talking about and having experienced, and

1076
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: the discrimination in the space as well, like, let's just

1077
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: be real, that's what it is. And when somebody comes

1078
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: from that understanding, it's just so much easier for you

1079
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 2: to like let your guard down and take the book

1080
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 2: for what it's giving you and not constantly be questioning

1081
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: where it's coming from. Oh but you wouldn't understand this.

1082
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: Oh but your parents never did, never struggled with that.

1083
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: You can kind of just like let that go and

1084
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: really get from the book what it's meant to give you.

1085
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: At least that has been my experience, and that's why

1086
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: I chose to write a book too, because I just

1087
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, this is not easy for

1088
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: me to be reading book after book after book that's

1089
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: missing that secret sauce. The secret sauce is the stories

1090
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: I think ye won't see.

1091
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: I promise my sauces is sauce and not mayonnaise. Okay,

1092
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: it's that Georgia's southern souls.

1093
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, yes, it's not the Wisconsin, the Georgia.

1094
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for listening, Va fam, Please please please read

1095
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: a review. Thank you so much. Thank you to Nellie

1096
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: and Chris for joining me at the Brown Table this week.

1097
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: I'll see y'all Friday for the b a q A

1098
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: Bye