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Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Falcons Audible,

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Speaker 1: presented by AT and T. And yes you got the

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Speaker 1: normal three faces, but folks, we got a fourth face

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Speaker 1: on the set today and ones that if you have

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Speaker 1: any knowledge of the Atlanta Falcons, which we know you

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Speaker 1: have plenty of it. You know this gentleman sitting to

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Speaker 1: Derek Rackley, DJ Shockley, Dave Archer and none other than

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick joining us here. Yeah, we don't normally get

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Speaker 1: rid of we're rolling with the stun. It's been a while, man,

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Speaker 1: it's good to see first of all, to see you man,

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Speaker 1: how you've been doing. I've been doing great, man. The

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Speaker 1: family is good, life is good, and it's just mistatic

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Speaker 1: to be him. Yeah. Hey, Arch demand being on the

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Speaker 1: course Art, That's what I know. Yeah, he's been playing.

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting. I'm waiting to get him him first started

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Speaker 1: doing it right. He gives out there and he's got

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Speaker 1: these really really nice cloth us and stuff and he's

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Speaker 1: swinging it and ball going over there. I would never forget. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, a good friend of ours, uh Alan ross

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Speaker 1: Yeh had his golf tournament. I went out there and

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Speaker 1: I remember everybody just out there just hitting whack. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm hitting it. I'm like, first off, he begged me

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Speaker 1: just come out and just hanging the car. And I

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Speaker 1: having a good time. And I tried to hit it

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Speaker 1: I went and told my backyard up that day, I

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Speaker 1: went and found like a used club damn in my backyard.

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Speaker 1: We all watched this dude play and there was nobody

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Speaker 1: better and no more exciting to play on the field.

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Speaker 1: But I've never seen to du more frustrated with the

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Speaker 1: game than the golf games that day. You know, I

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Speaker 1: just couldn't understand how I could roll pass like everything

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Speaker 1: else and then like so easy, and then this little

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Speaker 1: but Toby was just driving and I'm like, that's so beautiful,

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Speaker 1: like that's what golf is all about. And it's like

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Speaker 1: I couldn't even I couldn't even hit the ball. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, y'all know how golf is the golf life

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Speaker 1: when you started, when you're hitting it, you know, the

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Speaker 1: kind of the theme around the league is like quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are generally like fantastic golfers. Like you hear about guys

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Speaker 1: like Tony Romo's getting invitations to different PGA Tour events.

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Speaker 1: Right before you came. Chris Chandler was a fantastic golfer.

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Speaker 1: A lot of quarterbacks and special teams guys. Some people

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Speaker 1: would say it's because of their hand eye coordination. Other

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Speaker 1: we would probably say they have so much time. But

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Speaker 1: that wasn't the case necessarily for Mike. He's telling you

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Speaker 1: that that was not necessarily his game. But the interesting

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Speaker 1: part is the competitive fire, no question right. Mike was

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Speaker 1: high WoT that, I tell you, no exaggeration. I went

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking divvied up my back. It was divots

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Speaker 1: Davis And I was like, you know what, I never

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Speaker 1: and today, you know, go take divots out of somebody

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Speaker 1: else's yard. Yeah, okay, so look you can see how

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Speaker 1: this is gonna go. We could sit here and talk

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Speaker 1: bunch of former teammates. Of course, me and DJ were

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Speaker 1: Mike was playing covering us as part of the media,

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Speaker 1: so we have all kinds of memories. But let's do

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Speaker 1: start more broad picture here, and Mike, I'll start with you,

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Speaker 1: like playing in Atlanta is a little bit different here

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Speaker 1: how things were when you started coming out of Virginia Tech,

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Speaker 1: coming down from Blacksburg. Obviously, you brought that team to

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Speaker 1: I don't know what has to happen. And I felt

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Speaker 1: first year I really wasn't ready but you know, all

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Speaker 1: I came a year before you, Mike, and the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I came from Minnesota, we did not come from

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Speaker 1: And you guys will remember this, DJ, You not because

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Speaker 1: you came a few years after, but tickets when you

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Speaker 1: forty eight dollars a pop my first year, right, And

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Speaker 1: but after Arthur Blank bought the team and just injected

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Speaker 1: They loved their stars. Mike was there's nobody bigger than

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Speaker 1: this team, and I think they're starved through that again. Man, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: part of it. And it's crazy because I remember first

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Speaker 1: just you send back and you like, people are like crying,

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Speaker 1: And it was cool though, because you got to see it.

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Speaker 1: Me being from Atlanta, you always knew it was passionate fans.

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Speaker 1: and then when I got here, it's totally different. It's crazy. Well, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's a that's a great place to lead into. Mike,

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Speaker 1: tell what culture? We hear the word culture all the time.

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Speaker 1: You guys had a culture here. You were a big reason.

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Speaker 1: Why what is that? What is culture? And how do

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Speaker 1: You know. Coach Reeves did the best he could to

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Speaker 1: Now you got ludicrous, you got out cash, got everybody's

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Speaker 1: So our culture came from just a melting part of

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Speaker 1: as players saying like we're gonna buck around. And was

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Speaker 1: in videos him and him and Tip was in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I got pride out. I got pride at it, Okay.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite movies Guys is Bad Boys Too, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and so Martin Lawrence. So they got that scene where

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Speaker 1: It was cool to see that. Yeah, man, I got

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Speaker 1: it was things like that to help let's create culture

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Speaker 1: get your opinion for somebody like Desmond Ritter because everybody

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Speaker 1: talks about it, specifically for the quarterbacks. When you come

430
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Speaker 1: into the NFL at some point, the game slows down

431
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Speaker 1: as a quarterback. When did you feel like the game

432
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: finally started to slow down for you? At the end

433
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Speaker 1: of my rookie year and I spot played for Chris

434
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: a couple of games and it didn't go well. I

435
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: remember a game against Chicago that was brutal or like

436
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 1: could like single handedly whipped this. I know, y'all, y'all um,

437
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: they big ted Washston. It was like like a really

438
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: good defense Mike Brown as safety. I don't even know

439
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: how I remembering all these guys. It was like a

440
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: night man. Then Dallas and then a couple game and

441
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Speaker 1: then a couple of games and all of a sudden,

442
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Speaker 1: Chris go down seconds to the last game of the

443
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: season against Miami, and you know, coach res looked at

444
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: me and say you're ready. I'm like, let's go. And

445
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: I go in and have a phenomenal game. And he

446
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: started me the next week against against Saint Louis when

447
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: it was the greatest show on turf and had a

448
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: pretty good game, and you know, it slowed down at

449
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: the end, and then going into year two, I was

450
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: in total control. Yeah, you know, to a point where

451
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: I even had a couple of arguments with coach Reeves. Coach,

452
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: I love you to death in peace, but I had

453
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: to tell coaching coach, give it to me, give me

454
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 1: the game, plane, open it up. We got one hundred

455
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: and ninety plays, Call one hundred and sixty up, come on,

456
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah. And he really heard me out and

457
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: he knew that I was serious about it, and I

458
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: was ready for that moment. It was against the Carolina Panthers,

459
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: like week five or something, and everything changed from that moment. Man.

460
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: I was just ready to like take it on as

461
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: a passer, as a runner, you know, control the whole game.

462
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: You know, whatever it took. I was ready to be

463
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: that guy. What would you say that has been ridder

464
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: right now? If you could talk to him about just

465
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Speaker 1: being a young quarterback trying to make it in this like,

466
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: I would tell him enjoy being a rookie, the same

467
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: thing thing I used to used to tell Shot like,

468
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: You're in a good position to learn, and you know

469
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: there's never really no rush you behind the guy who

470
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: has experience, who knows the game, understands been through the fire.

471
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: He's gonna go through more fire. You're gonna be able

472
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: to learn vicariously through him and everybody else who who

473
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: stepped behind the center and take a snap. Um, So

474
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: you know this is a precious time, and you know

475
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: he'll find out quick if you get thrown out there

476
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: early the severity of you know, playing a position, as

477
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: we all know. But as of right now, it's soaking

478
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: in learning as much as you can make those mistakes

479
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: and correct them and and feel good about where you

480
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Speaker 1: at each and every day and just try to continue

481
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: to get better. You're not the only one that had

482
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: a nightmare in Chicago. I had to play against eighty

483
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: five been so it's it's it's interesting. Mike that you

484
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: brought up being healthy, and you said the bears because

485
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 1: I remember back when we were playing, they had that

486
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: whole like reputation that they were trying to hurt you

487
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: and that the defense was if they got you, you die.

488
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: I think Greg blacktive coordinator, right, like, those were the

489
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: times where real heated between us and the bad. It

490
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: got so bad my grandmother noticed it. My grandmother was like,

491
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: was like seventy one. My grandmother called up Dan Reeves, Hey,

492
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: what what happened in that game? And why was they

493
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: talking to and why was they talking about what they

494
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: were saying something like take my knees out of something?

495
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: And why was they talking about taking his knees out

496
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: of them? Like broma? How you get the audio? Come on, Grandma?

497
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: And then grand Grandma stop normally falling up here like

498
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Speaker 1: I'm something baby, I'm not a baby girl. I can't

499
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Speaker 1: handle up. So, yes, we had a serious few going

500
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Speaker 1: on with them, and uh, you know, I don't know

501
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: how Grandma called winning was going on. She had my

502
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: back to the to the forest. And I never beat

503
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: Chicago man to this. I never could be her like

504
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: in all my years, and it still drives me nuts. Yeah,

505
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: It was definitely a great defense that they had at

506
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: that time. That was part of the reason why they

507
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: were so competitive. Fence wasn't that great, but their defense

508
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: was shut down at those times. Mike, we talked a

509
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: little bit about you mentioned when when Matt Schaub was

510
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: drafted it you kind of learned from him a little bit.

511
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: Not necessarily a veteran. Recently, Tom McClure got elected to

512
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: go into the Ring of Honor here for the Atlanta Falcons.

513
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: So if there was some veterans around when you played,

514
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: because obviously Desmond ritters in a very similar the rookies

515
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Drake London a similar situation. Who were some of the

516
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: veterans when you were playing that maybe you pulled aside

517
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: or you asked a conversation to our question too, because

518
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: you knew they would help get you down the right path.

519
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 1: It was always Ward Warred was he was like my

520
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: worst critic but a best friend at the same time.

521
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: And you know w was he was big bro. He

522
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: was a big bro throw and through couldn't get nhing

523
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: around him. Um, Sean Jefferson sound was amazing Yu and

524
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: always leaning on Sean and on the defensive side, I

525
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: always talked to edge as but um it was a

526
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: great man. And Keion Kapner. You know, those guys really

527
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 1: kind of help keep me in check. And you know,

528
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: you know those guys was great veteran dudes for the

529
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: locker room. And I could see why Dan brung him in.

530
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: I love that you mentioned those guys because as I

531
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: think about all four of those, those were four guys

532
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: that will tell it to you, real, tell it straight

533
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: to all four of them, Like Sean Jay will get

534
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: in your face with his eyes wide open and he

535
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: would cuss you up and down and he no, one

536
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: ain't good up. And if you want to play like

537
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: it's got to be better, he gona he gonna, he

538
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna get you wrapped up. Yeah, like I seen him

539
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: do it on plenty of occasions. So Sam is definitely

540
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: that guy. I love that, love that. Let's say you

541
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: have a you made so many highlights. There were so

542
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: many things that you did that were unbelievable. Is there

543
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: is there one that sticks out to you? One Michael

544
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: Vick play that's kind of this. I know, the signature

545
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: play that people will go to is the Minnesota Run,

546
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: and that was unbelievable. I mean, I saw so like, so,

547
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: is there one that sticks out here that's hard? I

548
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: mean it was. It was a play against Green playing

549
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: in the playoff game, the game that we won, where

550
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: the name of the defense and number ninety four, and uh,

551
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: he hit me on the sideline and I just remember,

552
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: I just I just threw him. I just threw him

553
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: off me and spent back around and I came back

554
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: through the middle and I was one on one with

555
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: like a safety and and I was just like you done,

556
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: And I gave him a move and I hit him

557
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: with one and and and when I hit him with

558
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: the move, he disappeared and I'd seen the end zone

559
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: and then he hit my leg like he like nipped

560
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: my leg and I and it was like we beat

561
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: him twenty seven to seven and scored have been thirty

562
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: five to seven. But I wanted that touch it down

563
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: bad all because of everything that transpired during the play.

564
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: And I felt like if I had made him miss,

565
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: that would have been one of my greatest players. But

566
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: the fact that I took a defense in and like

567
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: threw him like six yards out of bounds. Wow, that

568
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: was my retribution to all the things that defenses did

569
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: to me. I think that was the only time green

570
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: Bay to that point, the only time green Bay had

571
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: ever lost a playoff game when it was below freezing.

572
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I remember that game so vividly, Mike, because

573
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: people will still ask me about that game, and it's

574
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: funny because it was, you know, snow was falling and stuff,

575
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: and they're like, was that game cold? And I was

576
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: like nope, And I was like, it's crazy what happens

577
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: when you win. Yeah, when you win in the playoffs,

578
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: and especially in that environment because of all the things

579
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: that were stacked up against us in that game. Like

580
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even remember the cold in

581
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: that game, all right, So so give me one, give me,

582
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: give me a Michael Vick moment. Yeah, I mean for

583
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm from Minnesota, Okay, so like that was it for me.

584
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 1: The part is I still have friends that I went

585
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: to high school with in Minnesota that will send me

586
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: a video clip of that play and they'll be like, hey,

587
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: do you remember this play? I'm like, dude, play. First

588
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: of all, I was sick during that game, but I

589
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: played through it. Yeah, But like the defense and like

590
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: two guys clide against each other and then Mike just

591
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: sails into the end zone and like that. But the

592
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: funny part is we saw that in practice all the time, right,

593
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: Like the best part of that was the classic what's

594
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: your So this happened my rookie year and I don't

595
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: even know Mike remember this, but I don't even know

596
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: what game it was, but I remember some happening in

597
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: the red zone and uh, maybe Nathan called to play

598
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: you wanted or something. You came to the side. I'm

599
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: so hot down you can't he said, next time, I'm

600
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: just gonna take off. Came back next series those just

601
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: seventy just just because he could. And I was like,

602
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: this crazy. He just said he was gonna take that.

603
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: He's like, I ain't listening no more. I'm just gonna

604
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: take off, and took off. And I was like, that's

605
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that he could do, you know

606
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Looked at like certain stuff in the game.

607
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: Will you're like, oh man, he's super talent. But he

608
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: was just all right, stuff, I'll tell you mine. And

609
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: he didn't even he wasn't even a play. Okay, post

610
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: this moment, he went off on Carolina. It ran for

611
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: like one hundred and forty yards. You had a Superman

612
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: dive in there. You did the Michael Jordan against Craig Elo.

613
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Jordan goes up, Elo goes like, comes down to Jordan

614
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: still in your touchdown dive. He took from the five

615
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: and you just stayed in the air. I said, how

616
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: did he do that? Okay? So it was the pre game. Okay.

617
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: The place is juiced because in oh three, Mike breaks

618
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: his legging preseason against Baltimore. There's a Paul that goes

619
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: over this team. You talk about the team. We're dead,

620
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: we can't We're done. That's it. Let's cash. I'll start

621
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: thinking about war. And so Mike works his way back.

622
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: He worked your way back. And so in December, we're

623
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna play Caroline at home and he announces I'm good,

624
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back. So the place is jammed. Okay,

625
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: it's as good a crowd as I can remember other

626
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: than the NFC championship game against Green Bay. Okay, in sixteen.

627
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: So Michael's ready, you know, he's coming back, And all

628
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they kind of kind of gets quiet,

629
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: and they start playing a little bit of music and

630
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: they showing the JumboTron just smoke, and I don't know

631
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: if you remember this, it's just smoke, and all of

632
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: a sudden, the smoke starts to clear and he's standing

633
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: on the ball and he says, I'm back, and the

634
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: place went. I still yeah, we didn't let people know

635
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: what I was coming back, so yeah, oh it was

636
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: a moment. It was a moment. I can I still

637
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: get chills down my back. I'm back and this place exploded.

638
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: He was back, all right. He went for one hundred

639
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: and forty on the ground, Carolina ran. Let me tell

640
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: you how my teammates at the time, Rack you wasn't

641
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: included in this, but they was all keyon rest, rest

642
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: in peace. Kan. They always pulling me to the side,

643
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: like they Mike, They say, you're milking this injury. I

644
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: need to go ahead and get back. I'm like, I

645
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: just want to be one hundred percent when I get

646
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: back out there. But yeah, they gave me a lot

647
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: of flats, so I felt like I had to rush

648
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: back for the team. Was a man, as as all

649
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: qbs do. We we need dudes around us. We do

650
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: them guys on the outside of the scale. Guys. You

651
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: got guys coming in like Mary on the real We

652
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: talked about enough about those guys. But you got some receivers,

653
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: got some new receivers in this new regime that's coming

654
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: in all bigger. You played with a lot of a

655
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: lot of really big, good receivers. Put Cal in that

656
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: category as well. How did you go about transitioning into

657
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: finding that feel for your receivers throughout it, especially when

658
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: you got some new receivers coming in. Yeah, it's just

659
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: reps because you gotta figure out, you know, you gotta

660
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: find out who can do what, who can get away

661
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: with um beating man? Who's better than zone? Like, can

662
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: we call an option route for you know, Kyle, Or

663
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: can we call an option route for take? What makes

664
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: sense for these guys and how did we put them

665
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: in the best position? So, you know, I think it's

666
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's just as much as just on the coaches,

667
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: on you as a quarterback as well to kind of

668
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: identify that. And that's what I think we was always

669
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: able to do, especially as I moved on and got

670
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: old and as I got years under my belt, I

671
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: was able to see a guy, look at him, know

672
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: exactly what he can do, put him in a position

673
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: where he can can be successful. And it all comes

674
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: with reps too. Like we was predominantly a run team,

675
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, so to speak. You know we had Ducky,

676
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: we had done so you know, we bore. He wanted

677
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: his carriage. He was gonna get his carriage about any means.

678
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: He crashed hard, you'll put the diesel in forward. So

679
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, you just you work with those guys. And

680
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: it's unfortunately guys like Pelliss Price I really didn't get

681
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: a chance to and I felt like he had a

682
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: lot of potential. But you know, like I said, it's

683
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: on the coach and the quarterback that know how to

684
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: use the guy. So you know with these big tigers

685
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: that that Mariolda got. Now, oh man, you got three

686
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: guys over sixty three. Yeah, you don't need no speedy

687
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Stow it up, Mike. You better. You played a long

688
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: time in the league, had a ton of success, and

689
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: you were able to see different pieces around a team

690
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: that makes up a winning franchise. So I'm gonna have

691
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: you kind of take off your nostalgiic hat for a

692
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: second and put on your analyst hat. We look at

693
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, but in your career, when you saw X,

694
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: Y and Z, whether that's offensive line, it's defense, it's coaching,

695
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: it's wide receiver that can take the top off the defense. Right.

696
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: What are the two or three things that you had

697
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: it at any of your stops that you felt like

698
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a special year. Teams specifically or just

699
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: position wise. Yeah, it could be like you could say

700
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: great offensive line. I had two receivers and they could

701
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: never lock either of them down or something like that. Yeah,

702
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: just talking personal experience. Um, when I got to Philadelphia,

703
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: like they was more predicated on defense, and when I

704
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: seen the defense and how they practiced and when I

705
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: practiced against them, I was like, hold on, this is

706
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: like I gotta step my game up because they rushed

707
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: in the past. It like I remember playing against Philadelphia

708
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: and two thousand and five and he played them in

709
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: the championship and it just couldn't get away from him.

710
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: And then you know, now I'm playing for him and

711
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we gotta we gotta shot. I

712
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: just gotta do my job, and you know, so great

713
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: I seen it in practice. And then I've seen Jeremy

714
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: McKinnon and DeShawn Jackson when they was in years one

715
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: and two and just I'm talking can float out, run

716
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: nobody can cover them one on one. And I wasn't

717
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: even starting at the time. And it's like if I

718
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: stopped on the field with them, it's it's curtains, it's over.

719
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: And I don't have to use I don't have to

720
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: be a runner. I can probably you know, I could

721
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: throw it. And you know it's the thing now that

722
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: we're on this podcast, and look, it's mad love, man,

723
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: because that's first love. Yeah, but man, I always wanted

724
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: to play for Andy Reid. Yeah, the way he used

725
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: to let Donovan throw that rock. I used to be

726
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: over here. So yeah, all the disciples of all come

727
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: from the same still going on, right, I mean you

728
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: talk about he was with Farve, that wasn't bad. That

729
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: was your Patrick Mahomes. So it ain't been bad, right.

730
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: He let and he let Patrick. He let those guys

731
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: run it, man, and uh, you know, not not to

732
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: say that we weren't doing it right, but uh, coach

733
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: just he just it's just always something different and this offense. Well,

734
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: and so you guys all got to hear it here first.

735
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean you might think Michael Vick, he was a

736
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: running quarter. He always wanted to run. And Mike's telling

737
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: you right now. He wanted to go somewhere where he

738
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: could air. And don't let him fool you. Now, he

739
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: had one of the tightest spirals that I ever seen him.

740
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: But it was weird, but it came around the wrong way.

741
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. In looking at quarterbacks and shot

742
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: and I talk about quarterbacks all the time and stuff,

743
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: and I know you do too. Like one of the

744
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: prettiest motions you'd ever see. Yeah, it was because you're taught.

745
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: And you tell me if I'm wrong, you're taught. When

746
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: you're thrown, they want you to hit hit that, hit

747
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: that far thigh with the handy. Just to emphasize following through.

748
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you got guys. You'll see guys throwing the

749
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: poll the string right, they'll be right here, not him. Yeah,

750
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean it was all the way through, and it was.

751
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: It was the prettiest motion you ever seen in your life.

752
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: It was different throwing motion. And it's something I worked

753
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: on for years. And you know, like I said, a

754
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: lot of coaches just never tried to change a lot

755
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: of things that I did no wrong or you know

756
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I did right. They were

757
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: just you know, I had good coaching for the most

758
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: part nine. But they also say, man, just do you

759
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: empathize and do you if it all came down to it.

760
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: So that's the type of liberty quarterbacks need these days

761
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: in order to be successful. Yeah, before right before we

762
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: get out of hire, obviously, I want to I want

763
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: to get my dude a little love. Um. I remember

764
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: the first time walking into the FI City when I

765
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: got drafted Mike. I know he'll remember this. My first

766
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: time ever walking into the fire, walking into Flyery Branch

767
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: and I walk around the corner that's headed to like

768
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: where the equipment room and you know where the training room.

769
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: I come around the corner. First guy I see it

770
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: is Mike and I'm like, damn, I know. I'm like,

771
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be in the room with I'm

772
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: not gonna be sharing the team with him, but the

773
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: first guy I'm gonna walk in the building and I'm like,

774
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: he don't know my name, you know what I'm saying.

775
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: Walk around the color and I say, this is like

776
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: people ask me all the time, what kind of dude

777
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: is he? What is he like? And I was like,

778
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: he the most genuine dude you'll know, most laid back guy,

779
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: real cool, you know. And I walk around the corner

780
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: and as soon as he see me, I see his

781
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: hand opened up and I'm like, oh, he's find the

782
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: damn up. He said, he what's up? Glad to have

783
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: you on the squad. And I'm like, in my mind,

784
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm blown. I'm like, I'm like, this man the face

785
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Yeah, and you know, he offering all

786
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: a branch to me, you know what I'm saying. And

787
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: I just want people to know, like that's the kind

788
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: of dude there is all the time. And people only

789
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: see you know what I'm saying him on the field.

790
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: They see him, you know now doing this thing on Fox,

791
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: but genuine dude man. And I think that's why all

792
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: his teammates always loved them. Everybody always ride for him.

793
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: I mean when he came at me, he should at

794
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: practice day. Everybody that's seen him, former players, former you know,

795
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: guys who played whatever it was, I mean so much

796
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: to me too, It means everybody. I can't say to

797
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: be able to come back to a place and like

798
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: it's so good to see y'all too, Like I can't

799
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: even lie, like today it's been an amazing day just

800
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: seeing everybody being able to talk to everybody, Like guys

801
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: out there, I don't even know coaching staff that I'm

802
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: so unfamiliar with, y'all knowing better than me. And I

803
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: come back and this like welcome me back with open arms,

804
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: and it's like we pick up what we left off,

805
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: and you know, the relationships gonna continue to get stronger

806
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: and tighter and better. And that's that's what it's all about. Mike,

807
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: last question before we let you go. I know all

808
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: four of us have probably gotten this question asked to

809
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: us in some variety, and I'm curious what your answer is.

810
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: But a lot of people ask me, what do you

811
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: miss the most that you're not playing in the NFL

812
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: around the guys. Man, I miss coming I miss coming

813
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: in every day and laughing and just you know, the

814
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: football was sometimes when we went out to practice, we

815
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: felt like we would have rather much stayed in the

816
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: locker room and just talk. Yeah, y'all know it, and

817
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: it hung out and when it was time to go

818
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: out there, you know, we're out there and we'll hand

819
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: a lot of business and we come back in and

820
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: you know, it's a party again. And man, we just

821
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: had from traveling to team events. Man we just we

822
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: just had We had a great time. And then especially

823
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: as I got older, I started wanting to spend more time,

824
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Like spending time with y'all became more important. So we

825
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: started golfing together, and I learned to golfing. It's going

826
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to golf tournaments and then boom, you know, it came

827
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: to an abrupt ending. But you know, I thank everybody

828
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: for making that time. Like I grew up with you guys,

829
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: and and that that's been a lot man. So we

830
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: shared a lot of great memories. And that's why we

831
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: can sit here right now, like I say, pick up

832
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: what we left off. It's real too, because I remember

833
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: about a couple couple of months ago Roddy got married

834
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: and all of us back in there. It was like

835
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: old times, you know, it felt like the locker room again.

836
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: That's the thing that it's hard to explain to fans

837
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: and not saying they don't understand there don't have it

838
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: somewhere in their lives, but the whole locker room experienced

839
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: um is different, you know, and it's it's there is

840
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: no there is no what you look like, what you

841
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: what you sound like, none of that stuff that we're

842
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,919
Speaker 1: all the same, right, Yeah, I mean when you're joking

843
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: about I mean, we should get on Billy White us

844
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: Johnson about how Bushy is mustach stupid stuff. But it

845
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: was so funny because but and I know, I know

846
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about when you can't replace that.

847
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about games. We all had

848
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: highlights and games and did things, but ultimately it comes

849
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: back those dudes you went out on the field with

850
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: and I know you had some you had some great moments,

851
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: like man, it's great to hear that because I think

852
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: that's probably the misconception out there about the NFL that

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Speaker 1: you you'd be asked ninety five nine percent of the

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Speaker 1: guys like what do you miss the most sitting on

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Speaker 1: that stool in your locker, hutting up with your teams,

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Speaker 1: joking Jones and whatever. On the plane. Yeah yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he just bought it up earlier the day he

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Speaker 1: was He still remember first time meeting, bringing biscuits to

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Speaker 1: the meat like stuff like that. You ain't going back

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Speaker 1: like shop shop. Yeah. Well, look, Mike, uh, we truly

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Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. Man, it's great to see you again,

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Speaker 1: one of the best all time they ever went this Jersey. UM,

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Speaker 1: it's great that they brought you back in the building.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an awesome move by the organization to

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Speaker 1: get a bunch of the former players to be around

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Speaker 1: the new generation, UM and talk to them and mentor them,

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Speaker 1: if you will, and and do do what we can

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Speaker 1: to kind of continue to advance this organization. So it's

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Speaker 1: great to see you. I'm glad to come back and

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Speaker 1: we're here on the Falcons audible. Truly fortunate that you

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Speaker 1: were able to sit in with us. So yeah, as

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Speaker 1: I once saw and a big JumboTron, he's back. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up, everybody, who thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us again. This is Mike Vick in town joining

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Speaker 1: us here on the Falcons audible, presented by AT and

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Speaker 1: t US three. We'll be back next week, probably not

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Speaker 1: as much star power, but we're gonna bring you everything

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Speaker 1: we got. Thanks a lot for joining us, everyone. M