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Speaker 2: What do we have, Prystal, A lot of very interesting

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Speaker 2: We're going to cover this immigration rate at a Hyundai

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely right. And so it shows you the

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Speaker 2: And you know, I do think that Trump increasingly has

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Speaker 2: fire whoever they want without giving cause that these agencies

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00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: that are supposed to be independent. We've seen similar things

433
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,640
Speaker 2: with regard to you know, they basically dismantled the Department

434
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 2: of Education. Previously, you would have assumed that seems like

435
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: something that Congress has to do, not the executive. Well,

436
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: the Court has allowed that to go forward, and so

437
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: it truly has allowed the Trump administration to consolidate a

438
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: massive amount of power without us getting any real logic

439
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: or reasoning from the Supreme Court about how they're thinking

440
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: through these things or whether even they would rule ultimately

441
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 2: on the merits in this direction. So this is just

442
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 2: the latest in what has been an extraordinary series of

443
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: victories for the Trump administration with the Supreme Court.

444
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, your right to explain on the shadow docket. It's

445
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: a big complicated, like you said, because they did not

446
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: rule on the merits. It was Justice Kavanaugh writing, I believe,

447
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: for the majority of six' three to come through on

448
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: the shadow docket to allow the injunction to be lifted

449
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: without ruling on. Eventually it is also a consequence of

450
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the extraordinary like legal action and extraordinary

451
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: behavior that's been taken on the part of The trump.

452
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: Administration but it's certainly something to. Watch, okay turning now To,

453
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: epstein some extraordinary new information being released by The House Oversight.

454
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: Committee you'll all remember the story about the so called

455
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 1: birthday book For Jeffrey, epstein which included a letter allegedly

456
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: From Donald. Trump The White house claimed that it was a,

457
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: forgery that it was a, fake that it didn't. Exist

458
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: The Wall Street journal was actually Sued Rupert murdoch and

459
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: others By Donald trump personally for, defamation claiming that no

460
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: such letter ever. Existed they said that they never even

461
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: showed them the. Letter, well the letter has now been

462
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: released to The House Overside. Committee it is part of

463
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: several pages now released by The Oversight committee from the

464
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: so Called Birthday book directly from the estate Of Jeffrey.

465
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: Epstein so let's make that very. Clear this was from

466
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: the estate Of Jeffrey. Epstein this so called Birthday book

467
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: that was compiled By Glainne, maxwell has a lot of

468
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: other luminaries and other interesting. People but the allegation from

469
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: The White house now is that it's a fake letter

470
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: which was actually planted in The epstein, ESTATE i guess

471
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: from the year two thousand and, three and since that

472
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: time has bubbled up that forgery to where we are right.

473
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: Now so just presenting, that we'll get to some of

474
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: The White house denials in a. Second but let's take

475
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: a look at the letter which was described for us

476
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: only by The Wall Street. Journal let's go and PUT

477
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: b four please up on the screen so you can

478
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: all see it now for. Yourself there it, is And

479
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: i'll remind you kind of the weird cryptic poem that

480
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: was written there in typeface. Voiceover there must be more

481
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: to life than having, Everything, Donald, yes there, is BUT

482
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: i won't tell you what it, Is, Jeffrey nor WILL

483
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: i SINCE i know what it. Is, Donald we have

484
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: certain things in, Common. Jeffrey, jeffrey, yes we, do come

485
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: to think of, It donald enigma's never. Age have you noticed, That.

486
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: Jeffrey as a matter of, fact it was clear to

487
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: me since the last TIME i saw, You, DONALD a

488
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: pal is a wonderful. Thing happy. Birthday may every day

489
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: be another wonderful. Secret DONALD. J trump with a. Signature they're,

490
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: Listed SO b five please just to go and show

491
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: everybody the initial understanding and statement from The White house

492
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: is quote time To News. Corp to open that. Checkbook

493
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: it's not his, signature defamation in all. Caps that is

494
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: From Taylor. Budowitch he is The Deputy White HOUSE tava

495
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: staff and a cabriage secretary there over at The White.

496
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: HOUSE a little bit of an issue, though because in

497
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: The New York times story in The Wall Street, journal

498
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: they've actually released other side by side photos Of trump's

499
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: signature from that time, period and they do appear to

500
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: look very. Similar so not a signature expert obviously or

501
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: any of. That you can judge it all for, yourselves

502
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: but certainly some of the story about how allegedly this

503
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: is a fake doesn't pass some of the smell, tests

504
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: considering that it does come from The epstein estate. Itself

505
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: by the, way, okay in terms of who leaked, this

506
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: it's very interesting originally Because, crystal some of the things

507
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: that have now come out from The epstein estate that

508
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: were released by The House Oversight committee appear to actually

509
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: have been a part of some exhibits in The Glaine maxwell,

510
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: Trial so that birthday book has probably had access both

511
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: BY us prosecutors in THE fbi since twenty, nineteen but

512
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: also obviously available to The Glaine maxwell legal. Teams so

513
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: still lots of speculation as to who originally leaked, it

514
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: but we can all go read it for. OURSELVES i

515
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: was reading some of it this. Morning it's unbelievably, creepy

516
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: and this is, Like i'm Taking trump out of. This

517
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: trump was one of many included with lude and, creepy

518
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: disgusting messages from literally some of the world's, richest most powerful.

519
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: People they're all writing in some sort of secret. Code

520
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: we have little children cartoon, drawings AND i, Mean i'm not, Exaggerating,

521
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: emily AND i will fully go through some of this stuff.

522
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Tomorrow but obviously the headline here is specifically About trump

523
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: and his, denial and as part of the reason, why you,

524
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: know immediately they started saying that all The epstein files

525
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: themselves were a. Hoax but you can see here the

526
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: story's not going, away and it's becoming more inconvenient for

527
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: The White house and for everybody else who has touched

528
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: this man over the.

529
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Years that was an interesting choice of language there at the.

530
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: End use it correctly.

531
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: Well worth regard to who leaked. IT i, mean it

532
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 2: is worth noting that Since Glene maxwell got her a little,

533
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: cushy moved to her low security club fed and she

534
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: had her nice little conversation with The deputy ag we

535
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: haven't gotten any more leaks, now, Haveway so that is

536
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: an interesting thing to. Note can we put the before

537
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: backup on the, screen because many people are noting this

538
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: did not look the way that we expected it to.

539
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: Look it is even more disturbing to see in. Person

540
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: and you, KNOW i thought that there's sort of an

541
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: assumption when you think of like a grown man drawing

542
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: a female, shape you expect giant. Boops that's What i'm

543
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: trying to. Say, Now, LISTEN i appreciate the inclusivity of

544
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 2: the small breasted woman. Community, Okay, however many are also

545
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: pointing out this actually looks like a prepubescent. Girl so

546
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: when you have The president of The United states writing

547
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: in this creepy ass code about the secrets they have

548
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: in common and, enigmas. Etc may every day be another

549
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: wonderful secret on this, image it is very hard to

550
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: come up with what an innocent explanation of what he

551
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: is referring to, is especially sagert to your point when

552
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: you put it in context of the rest of the,

553
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: book which is fucking. Disgusting can PUT b eight up

554
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: on the screen to give you a little taste of

555
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: what we're talking about in this. Book you can see

556
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: here a cartoon drawing Of Jeffrey epstein handing balloons to

557
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: little girls in the year they, say nineteen eighty, three

558
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: and then in two thousand and three the present, day

559
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: him receiving massage from you, know girls who are unclothed

560
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: or barely, clothed and it, says what a great, country

561
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: so seemingly a cartoon depiction of his.

562
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: Grooming, LITERALLY i mean it's a literal cartoon version of grooming,

563
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: yea including one of the girls with a je.

564
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: Tattoo OH i didn't didn't even notice that one on her.

565
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: Ass.

566
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i mean if you look at all of,

567
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: these many of them are indecipherable because they are all

568
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 2: speaking in this weird like eyes wide shut. Code so

569
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: the impression you come away with is a whole friend

570
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: group of extremely powerful and wealthy. Individuals Les waxner has

571
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: his contribution in, here many others, besides who all know

572
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: what's going on and are at the very least, aware

573
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: if not directly. Participate that is very much the impression

574
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: and come away from if you spend five minutes looking

575
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: at this disgusting.

576
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: Book, yeah, look it's all. Public you can all go

577
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: read it for. YOURSELVES i encourage you to. DO i,

578
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: mean we'll just pick the Crazy stimmich. Tomorrow i'll actually

579
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: cobate some, others by the, way some other interesting information

580
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: that we can. Connect we also have The trump one

581
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: that you MENTIONED b, Seven please we can put on the.

582
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: Screen just just goes to show you, know the kind

583
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: of the crass nature that all these guys were talking

584
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: to each. Other so here it appeared to be some

585
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: check like one of those large novelty checks for twenty

586
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: two five hundred dollars signed by somebody who signs A

587
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Dj trump for To Jeffrey, epstein and the letter that

588
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: was written As jeffrey showing early talents with many women

589
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: sells quote fully depreciated blank To Donald trump for twenty two,

590
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: thousand five hundred dollars showed early people's skills, too presumably

591
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: in both of the. Cases Michael wolfe has pointed to

592
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: the fact That epstein And trump shared a, girlfriend which

593
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: maybe they're a wonderful secret and or they're enigma slash the,

594
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: depreciation but this is the tone that they're. Using, Yeah

595
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: and that's kind of WHAT i want to highlight is

596
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: that every person in his orbit just very obviously was

597
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: in on the quote. Secret and, LOOK i mean many

598
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: of these girls, like, YEAH i don't. KNOW i, mean

599
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: in some cases they're pointing to like eighteen to twenty

600
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: two year, olds which is creepy, legal but you, know

601
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: there is a children's section actually of the book with

602
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: handwritten notes literally from, children including one of what appears

603
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: to be a teenage girl of literally just photos of,

604
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: her like playing the. PIANO i, mean very very disgusting

605
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: to be included in the birthday. BOOK i don't know

606
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: if it was submitted by a. PARENT i don't know

607
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: what it, is but like handwritten stuff also written to

608
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: them in crayon and other types of. Drawings SO i,

609
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: MEAN i don't even have. Words, yeah for all of.

610
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: This it is really really. Gross it's.

611
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: Disturbing it's so.

612
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: Disturbing it connects to the political story as well as

613
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: The republicans kind of scramble on how exactly to respond to.

614
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: This my personal favorite was a new claim By speaker

615
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: of The house Of Mike johnson That trump was actually

616
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: AN fbi informant On Jeffrey. Epstein let's play b, one,

617
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: guys take a. Listen he's not saying that What epstein

618
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: did is a.

619
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 4: Hoax it's a, terrible unspeakable. Evil he believes that. Himself

620
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: when he first heard the, romhere he kicked them out

621
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 4: of very. Longgo he was AN nbi informant to try

622
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: to take this stuff. Down The president knows and has

623
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: great sympathy for the women who. Suffered he's. Unspeakable armed

624
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: it's detestable to. Him And i've spoken about this as

625
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: recently as point four hours.

626
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: Ago that's an extraordinary claim That trump was AN fbi.

627
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: Informant we have not yet ever seen a single document

628
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: or a release from The White house about. That by the,

629
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: way Remember trump himself said that he was mad At

630
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: jeffrey for stealing somebody from the massat or what do

631
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: you say from THE, spa which we believe Is Virginia,

632
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: goffrey who was one of the individuals who said he

633
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: was asked.

634
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: About it and he, said, YEAH i, Believe, SO i

635
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: believe that's What i'm talking.

636
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: About, okay so you know he said. It all, Right

637
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: i'm just taking that. Away he's never mentioned being AN fbi.

638
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: Informant speaker of The House mike jo.

639
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: Saying he was a white hat. Pedophile, actually it's, like,

640
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: what like WHAT b?

641
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: Two please Because Mike johnson is now, saying, GUYS i

642
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: misspoke actually about. That let's take a. Listen, well, yeah

643
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: what do you mean back when DID? I, WELL i.

644
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: Was referring to this in that long. Conversation was what

645
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: the victims attorney said more than a decade. Ago President

646
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: trump Kicked epstein out Of. Marilanco and he was one

647
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: of the only, people one of the only prominent. People

648
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 5: as everyone has, reported Not President, trump but everybody about,

649
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 5: that he was willing to hope law. Enforcement so after

650
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 5: this guy who was a disgusting child, abuser sex, trafficker

651
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: all their, allegations that's what they've. Heard so The president

652
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 5: was helpful in. THAT i don't know IF i use

653
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 5: the rag, terminalogy but that's a common knowledge.

654
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: And everybody knows.

655
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: That so there is much ado about.

656
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 4: NOTHING i think The president tell you this specifically about

657
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 4: this much.

658
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 5: SAID i was recounting what others have. Said The president

659
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 5: AND i have talked about The epstein evils many. Times

660
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: he's just disgusted by, it as everybody. Else he has

661
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 5: long had a history about acknowledging, that and he has

662
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 5: said repeatedly he wants everything to come out of all credible,

663
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 5: information everything for The american public to.

664
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Decide it was if he ever asked away a wire or,

665
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: ANYTHING i, THOUGHT i have No, No i'm not saying

666
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 4: THAT i have no information about that.

667
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: WHATSOEVER i was repeating what has been common knowledge for

668
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: a long. Time The president was helpful in trying to

669
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: Get epstein for the law enforcement. Gradst that's always been

670
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: my understanding of that's common. Knowledge it's the public's understanding

671
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 5: THAT i was not breaking news, There, okay.

672
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Uh common knowledge not to. Me AND i follow this

673
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: thing pretty damn, closely DON'T? I and it literally so,

674
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: look apparently this all from the Attorney Brad, edwards who

675
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: quote confirmed That trump had offered helpful information during the.

676
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: Investigation but that is a basically side quote from The

677
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: epstein victim. LAWYER i don't even know what he's referring.

678
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: To there's no detail or any of. That And Mike

679
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: johnson spinned it into some sort of like grand. Gesture but, yeah, look,

680
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 1: BROADLY i, MEAN i think what this needs to fit

681
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: into is every time that you, think you, know because

682
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: everyone knows to a certain. Extent, oh of course everybody

683
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: knew around him, Knew but to see it in the,

684
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: cartoon in the way that these guys all talk to,

685
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: him it's really, sickening and especially WHEN i pair. It,

686
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: LOOK i mean the pedophile stuff and all the other

687
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: in the creepy grooming, behavior et cetera That epstein was up,

688
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: to that's the most salacious. Part and that's kind of

689
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: what everybody focuses. On but the part THAT i focus

690
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: on is his connections to, power which enabled, potentially you,

691
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: know The sweetheart deal of two thousand and, seven and

692
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: the heart of it is all in the money and

693
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: potentially in intelligence connections which, remain you, know totally unexplored

694
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: by the vast majority of the mainstream. Media to their,

695
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: credit they did actually publish a new investigation. Here can

696
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: we PUT b three up? THERE i highly recommend everybody

697
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: go and read this because this is really What i've

698
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: been talking about now for several months about The epstein.

699
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Case this is the heart of all of. It The

700
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: New York times EXPOS b. Three please to put it

701
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: up there on the, screen and what we learn from

702
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: it is just the. LOOK a lot of this was already,

703
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: public so you, KNOW i knew not much of this

704
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: was new information to, me but they've kind of put

705
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: it all, together and it's quote HOW Jp morgan enabled

706
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: the crimes Of Jeffrey. Epstein it details people have heard

707
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: me reference before The department Of Financial services fine Of

708
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: Deutsche bank previously and their relationship To. Epstein but you,

709
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: know the central character is this Guy Jess, staley FORMER

710
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: ceo Of, barclays A Jp morgan executive previously who worked

711
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: hand in glove With epstein over the. YEARS i, Mean

712
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: epstein was just enormously influential at this. Bank he got

713
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: away with stuff that, nobody not even high networth individual

714
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: people are getting away with hundreds of millions of. Dollars

715
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: they processed nearly a billion dollars in transactions in and

716
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: out of his. Account he's withdrawing hundreds of thousands of

717
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: dollars in. Cash he's wiring money all over the globe

718
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: for human trafficking. Purposes according to their own internal, REVIEW

719
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: Jp morgan executives and others who work on a human

720
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: trafficking squad are, like we need to shut this, down

721
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: and they're like, No and the reason why, is you,

722
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: know at certain Points epstein is more enormously influential to

723
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: introducing them to the highest and most powerful people in the,

724
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: world INCLUDING Bb nets On. Yahoo I've i've released that

725
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: email before and for, reference but you know they reference

726
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: it here at one point you know that Jess daley is, like,

727
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: hey we were able to secure a meeting With nets On.

728
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Yahoo this, is by the, way After epstein has been

729
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: convicted or has had the two thousand and seven non

730
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: prosecution agreement that he you, know please, guilty And epstein

731
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: is like, surprise, surprise you, know basically saying that he

732
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: broker to the. Meeting, obviously that also includes his previous

733
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: relationship with The Israeli Prime minister Aud, barrock which is

734
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: well known and which you've explored here on this. Show

735
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: but this is the heart of, everything AND i want

736
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: to give a shout out To Senator Ron wyden who

737
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: has been at the forefront of this and talking about

738
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: the suspicious activity reports and other documents that are held

739
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: right now by The Treasury. Department this is the heart

740
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: of the Real epstein. Story where'd the money come? From

741
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: who was he sending it? To for what? Purposes why

742
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Did Leon black pay him one hundred and seventy million? Dollars?

743
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Why nobody can answer that question, Seriously and it's it's

744
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: the unexplored nature that potentially holds the key to this entire.

745
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: Thing, Yeah wexner had an entry in the birthday book

746
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: CASE i wanted to give, you, know what you wanted

747
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: for the birth for your, birthday and he drew a

748
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: picture of some. Boobs so that was his. Contribution it

749
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: could go deeper With Jess daily, too who there were

750
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: many people AT Jp morgan ultimately Protected. EPSTEIN i want

751
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: to say it was just this one, dude but this

752
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: one dude was one of the if not you was central.

753
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: Influential and we've also talked about this on the show.

754
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Previously these emails between them were. Revealed let me read

755
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: you the relevant section from The New York. Times they

756
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: Say staley Emailed epstein while sipping white wine in the

757
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: hot tub on the, island quote next time we're here,

758
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: together he, WROTE i owe you. Much other messages were

759
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: littered with apparent sexual. References that was. Fun say hi

760
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: to Snow, White staley emailed in twenty. Ten epstein responded

761
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: by asking which character he would like, Next beauty and The.

762
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: Beast staley, Answered so it could be, that you, know,

763
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: certainly part of How epstein is allowed to remain A

764
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: Jp morgan, customer even after you know that all of

765
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: his transactions are being, flagged and even after the non prosecution,

766
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: agreement research, time in, person, whatever is because of the

767
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: money that he's bringing. In you, know he's introducing them to. Net,

768
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: yeah he's introducing them TO e One musk all of

769
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: these big business, Deals Bill, gates. Etc that's certainly part of,

770
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: it but part of it could also be you, know

771
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: what Did epstein know About? Daley what activities was he involved?

772
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: In and that could have been part of the modus

773
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: operandi and Certainly epstein's collecting of these powerful. People that

774
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: was another thing is they would say to each other

775
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: internally within the, bank, well if all these rich and

776
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: powerful people trust, him then, like who are we to

777
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: throw him out on the. Street so that actively was

778
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: used as a protection. Mechanism, lastly just to go back

779
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: to The Republican, party The Mike johnson, thing which is.

780
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: Wild you, know it strikes me as just they're so

781
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: desperate to get out from under this to somehow jiu

782
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: jitsu this into Like trump is actually the good guy here,

783
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: somehow even though he's longtime friends With epstein and we've

784
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: got this birthday book thing and he won't release the

785
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 2: files and we know his names and the files all

786
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: of this. Stuff they're just throwing stuff at the wall

787
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: and seeing what. Sticks So Mike johnson put this thing out,

788
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: here people were, like what are you talking? About that's.

789
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: Ridiculous and then he had to be, like, OH i.

790
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: MISSPOKE i didn't mean it that. Way, okay Mister speaker

791
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: of The, house you don't know what it means to

792
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: be AN fbi. Informant, Sure but we also need to

793
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: recall the Way Jadie vance originally responded to the birthday book.

794
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: Revelations he was not the only, one but he went

795
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: particularly hard in the paint can PUT b six up

796
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: on the. Screen this is when the First Wall Street

797
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: journal story came out that just described the birthday, book

798
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: and he, says forgive my. Language this story is complete

799
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: and utter. Bullshit The Wall Street journal should be ashamed

800
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: for publishing. It where is this? Letter would you be

801
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: shocked to learn they never showed it to us before publishing.

802
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: It does anyone honestly believe this sounds Like Donald? Trump

803
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: they went hard on this, Story, sager as your recall

804
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: at the, time adamant that this was, fake that it

805
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: was a, forgery that the letter doesn't, exist. Etc and

806
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: now we have, it we can all see it with our,

807
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: eyes and they're desperately trying to go with. This oh,

808
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: well that's not his real. Signature it's just, unbelievable the

809
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: way they will lie to people and think that you

810
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: are so dumb that you will actually believe that this

811
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: was all invented and you know it's a plant and

812
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: it Was hillary Or comy or. Whatever and it's just

813
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: it's just wild to, me the brazen nature of the

814
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: way they will lie and spin and off the skate

815
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: and grasp at straws in order to may not just this,

816
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: story but any story that's uncomfortable for them go.

817
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: Away there's only one, defense and it's not a good.

818
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: One is that they shared a twenty two year, old

819
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: legal but creepy, girlfriend and that's what all the things were,

820
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: about and he was aware of, it and he was

821
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: connected to him for many, years and then they fell

822
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: out over a STOLEN spa employee and who he then,

823
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: groomed and you, know according To Virginia, gouffrey you know

824
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: obviously was abused for many. Years not exactly a tale

825
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Of White knight. Exactly and so you, know they have

826
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: to resort their highest and best defense is just to release,

827
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: everything because then you're just one of many people kind

828
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: of caught up in the. Web and we can look

829
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: for all sorts of connections that may or may not

830
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: just Include Donald, trump but include everybody but you, know

831
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: that's the that's the tack that they've. CHOSEN a lot

832
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: of people can see through. IT a lot of people

833
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: who are interested in this story are extremely fed up

834
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: with The trump administration's handling, it and they should. Be

835
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: they absolutely should be