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Speaker 1: Call It What It Is with Jessica Kepshaw and Camille Ludington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to a very special episode of Call It What

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Speaker 1: It Is?

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Speaker 2: Why is it so special this week?

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Speaker 1: And I can't even believe that I'm saying this, honestly,

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Speaker 1: This week is the one year anniversary of our podcast,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like it's gone so fast. Just this

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Speaker 1: week is traveling to Nashville and she's shooting nine to

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Speaker 1: one one. So our schedules were all over the place,

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Speaker 1: and we are trying to figure out how do we

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Speaker 1: celebrate this week when we can't get on the podcast together.

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Speaker 1: We can't just leave it a week without talk talking

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Speaker 1: to the crew, especially this week. So we came up

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Speaker 1: with this idea that we would have these individual podcasts

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Speaker 1: or individual kind of conversations with you this week to

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Speaker 1: make it a little more intimate and to celebrate being

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Speaker 1: on this journey with you, because you are you have

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Speaker 1: been so much of the magic that has been this podcast.

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Speaker 1: So this is me, just me talking to you guys,

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Speaker 1: celebrating one year. And in order to do that, we

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Speaker 1: came up with some questions that I am going to

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Speaker 1: run through and talk to you guys about. But the

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Speaker 1: first thing, the first question I want to tackle is

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Speaker 1: one thing that surprised me most about the podcast, And

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that's really surprised me is and Jess,

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this before, but for years and years

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Speaker 1: and years, I mean over a decade, you know. Obviously

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Speaker 1: we have gone out and done press for different projects,

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Speaker 1: even part of right, And when we're in these interviews

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Speaker 1: with people, they are often asking maybe a question or

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Speaker 1: two about our lives, which we touch on, you know,

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Speaker 1: very briefly, and then a lot of our questions are

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Speaker 1: of course about the characters that we play and their

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Speaker 1: lives and emotionally what they're going through. And when Jess

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Speaker 1: and I decided to do call It what it is,

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Speaker 1: we knew that we were going to have.

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Speaker 2: To be really vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: In order to make it work and really talk about

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Speaker 1: our own shit. And at first I was wondering, is

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Speaker 1: this gonna be hard?

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Speaker 1: How easy is it's going to be? It feels so vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: But in order for us to expect the audience and

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Speaker 1: the listeners to open up to us, we have to

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Speaker 1: do the same in return. And so the thing that

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Speaker 1: sort of surprised me most about the podcast in general

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Speaker 1: is organically how quickly that ended up happening for us.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's really a testament.

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Speaker 1: To you guys, because you guys received what we were saying,

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Speaker 1: and then in return, we're super vulnerable back with us

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Speaker 1: and super open and not judgmental, and you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Agree with everything we were saying, but it.

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Speaker 1: Was just it instantly felt like this little community, which

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Speaker 1: isn't so little anymore. I mean, I think we're almost

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Speaker 1: at five million downloads, which is wild, you guys, but

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Speaker 1: it does feel like a little community still, And I'm

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Speaker 1: so grateful for you guys from making it easier for

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Speaker 1: us to do this. That's the truth, because it is

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Speaker 1: sitting when you're sitting here and you're talking like joke

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Speaker 1: about you guys knowing you know my rxit.

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Speaker 2: CVS pharmacy.

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Speaker 1: These are little details about our lives that I didn't

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Speaker 1: know we were never tell necessarily anyone about. And so

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Speaker 1: that's just been such an incredible part of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and not just in general, probably has been what surprised

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Speaker 1: me the most is how organically we've just felt like

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Speaker 1: you guys sort of have opened your arms to us,

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Speaker 1: and then I hope in return that you feel like

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Speaker 1: we've opened our arms out to you. Okay, one thing

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Speaker 1: so fucking funny. And every time we ask you, guys.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this?

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Speaker 1: Give us your comments, give us your stories, give us

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Speaker 1: your questions. You guys were ready, like you came ready,

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Speaker 1: you came prepared, you came so open. And again, just

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Speaker 2: Okay, a moment that has shocked me over the past year.

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Speaker 1: The moment with Teresa Caputo when because you guys know this,

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad that I kept it in guest.

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Speaker 1: But you never really do that with your family, and

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Speaker 2: Be in like couple therapy with us. It was just

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was actually like a really fun episode,

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