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Speaker 1: You did it.

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Speaker 2: You made it through the Halloween weekend. We're so glad

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Speaker 2: you were here. It's Brook and Jeffrey and this is

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Speaker 2: your Second Date Update podcast. So thanks to listen to

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Speaker 2: our full show yesterday, our Halloween show, which is always

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Speaker 2: so fun. Yeah, you know, before we get to our

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Speaker 2: brand new Second Date today, we do love to highlight

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Speaker 2: some of your coment.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Amelia said, this might sound creepy, but every day

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Speaker 3: I sit in front of my laptop waiting until you

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Speaker 3: guys upload a new episode. I'm a seventeen year old

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Speaker 3: entrepreneur in Ireland and I genuinely can't focus until I

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Speaker 3: hear you guys screaming in my.

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Speaker 4: Ear organized chaos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. We'll keep her out there, Amelia.

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Speaker 1: That's rad. Thank you, and your brand new Second Date

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Speaker 1: starts right now.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I'd like to invest five dollars in your startup company.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just want to put that up us right.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, conversion, Never mind, I'm backing out of our deal.

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Speaker 4: Second Date Update. Welcome back to Brook and Jeffrey in

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Speaker 4: the morning, another Second Date Update, and just like many

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Speaker 4: of our male listeners who come on to this segment,

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Speaker 4: today's listener James says he has no idea if he

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Speaker 4: did anything wrong on.

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Speaker 1: His first I'm sure it was not his fault.

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Speaker 4: No, probably not. She's like, well, he set my house

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Speaker 4: on fire. And he's like, oh, wait a minute, I forgot.

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Speaker 1: I forgot to tell him that that's a thing.

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Speaker 4: But there is a gray area in there. That's why

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Speaker 4: we're gonna implement this sound. Oh that's an RFA, a

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Speaker 4: red flag alert.

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Speaker 1: Oh I like it.

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Speaker 4: Anytime you hear that noise, we need to stop what

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Speaker 4: we're doing and discuss. Could she have maybe taken that

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Speaker 1: Okay, who's in charge of the sound? You are, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: that's a red flag.

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Speaker 4: Don't question who's in charge in this room ever.

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Speaker 1: Bro say the power is not in the right hand.

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Speaker 4: Turn off Brooks mike for the next ten seconds. Thank you,

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Speaker 4: let's welcome. Let's welcome James to the show. James, how

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Speaker 4: you doing, man? You don't have to be afraid.

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Speaker 2: Of I tried to hear what his voice sounded like

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Speaker 2: before he decided if it was a red flag, you

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Speaker 1: I'm scared the button's going to go off.

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Speaker 4: Don't say anything weird. His fingers literally on the buttons,

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Speaker 4: no pressure, Just tell us how your date went with

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Speaker 5: I went on a date with Chelsea.

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Speaker 4: Chelsea Okay, he remembered the name right away. I almost

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Speaker 4: We have a green flag button. There we go. This

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Speaker 4: is gonna get annoying, all right, So tell us how

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Speaker 4: how did you meet Chelsea?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so we met on a dating app.

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Speaker 4: That's where people meet now, Jess, I agree, But which

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Speaker 1: That's a green flag.

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Speaker 4: That's all right, off the buttons. It's it's a medium.

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Speaker 4: It's I'm always little questionable geting girls all the power.

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Speaker 4: But let's keep going. What did you and Chelsea bond

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could come across as high maintenance former server.

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Speaker 4: Eventually you found a table that was quieter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff's right, hits the button. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: That is exactly what people want on a date.

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Speaker 4: No, I know how it is. Once you get deeper

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's when you know you're with the right person.

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Speaker 4: And that's when your husband spits sunflower seeds all over

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Speaker 1: It's a habit that's annoying it.

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Speaker 4: It's the real hymn. Tell us this, was there any

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Speaker 1: Oh did you get turned down?

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Speaker 4: Did she reject you?

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Speaker 5: Not really? Like she drove me to my car because

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Speaker 3: Oh was it awkward or cute because a forehead kiss

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Speaker 1: It's like hair. Oh my gosh, yeah, got so much

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you're kissing your kid before you send

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Speaker 4: Okay, sure, And I totally could have buzzed you for

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Speaker 1: Agreement what taco spot has.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a good job, Jeff for being understanding of other

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Speaker 5: I just walked back to my car. She drove off

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Speaker 1: Were you just walking back to your car being like God,

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 4: You blew it, especially when you could have used tongue

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna fix.

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Speaker 4: Shows that you wanted it.

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Speaker 1: But you missed red flag yourself.

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Speaker 4: Green flag for effort. And how long has it been

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Speaker 5: It's been a solid two weeks flag finally when we

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Speaker 5: agree on yeah, any communication at all? Uh No, she

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Speaker 5: Hopefully you can help me. Like, did I somehow turn

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Well, the head's awkward, but that's not a deal breaker

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Speaker 1: Will we not use the sounders when we call her?

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Speaker 4: Well, at that point she's just going to be telling

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Speaker 4: the phone on the first try, red flag, she should

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Speaker 4: So hopefully she doesn't pick up for a few times.

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Speaker 4: But when she does, listen for second date update Red

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Speaker 4: Flag edition, we'll do it right after this. Hold on

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Speaker 4: second date update? Are you just joining us for the

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Speaker 4: the possible red flags?

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Speaker 1: Why would we not call it red flag? Green flag?

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Speaker 1: And we it was you Yeah, whenever you want.

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Speaker 4: It was a fun time, wasn't it? And several potential

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Speaker 1: That he could actually hear her. I wanted to listen.

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Speaker 4: Could have come across as he's a high maintenance guy. Also,

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Speaker 4: maybe she thinks he hates music. Nobody wants to someone

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Speaker 4: Proud Father kiss. Not a move you want to be pulling,

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Speaker 4: at least not on a first date. And then two

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Speaker 4: full weeks with zero communication from Chelsea not a good sign. Jeff, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The last two. I agree with Jeff, because even if.

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Speaker 4: You don't like a guy at all, you'll at least

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Speaker 4: drunk text him at two am one night, right, alexis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably high like a photo exactly.

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Speaker 4: Slip up will happen. So we are officially though, we're

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Speaker 4: It had a good run for at least half a segment.

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Speaker 4: But from now on, let's just try to use our

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Speaker 1: Do are ok Yeah, why are you saying.

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Speaker 4: That it's a group thing. Let's all agree together, all right.

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Speaker 4: I'm on an island. I will try to communicate all

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Speaker 4: on my own. And I haven't heard at all from James. James,

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Speaker 4: are you still on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here, okay, Okay, he's listening to your monologue

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Speaker 2: is what he was doing.

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Speaker 4: Okay, green flag for being a good listener.

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Speaker 1: That's why you wanted the quieter booth.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's just call Chelsea. We'll see if she answers.

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Speaker 4: Here we go, Hello, Hi, are we talking to Chelsea?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Chelsea. This is a radio show called Brooke and

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the Morning, Chelsea. Fun time.

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Speaker 1: Oh it feels forced.

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Speaker 1: It was like two weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a guy you went out with named James.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, remember spicy James.

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Speaker 1: It loves tacos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, especially he emailed us because he told us about

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Speaker 6: Wait, why why would I even tell you guys? Why

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Speaker 1: This is so weird because he's like disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was like such a cool compliment. He

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, make sure did you feel like that was

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Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe he was his authentic self. If that authentic

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Speaker 1: Whoa rude? That's so interesting. He didn't come across his

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Speaker 4: I felt like he was too timid. Yeah, since we

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Speaker 4: can we ask was it when he asked to move

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Speaker 4: annoying him? Well, I don't know. I'm leaving it open

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Speaker 1: The blank, not leading the witness at all.

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Speaker 4: No, No, Chelsea, was it that that was fine?

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Speaker 6: That didn't bother me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was sweet.

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Speaker 2: He said he wanted to be able to hear you better,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it wasn't good conversation because he made me

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know he has no idea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't hear any like any moment like that

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Speaker 6: So him and I had been getting to know each

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Speaker 8: And the app and like we did bond over our

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Speaker 1: Rude, that's interesting. Why do you think it's rude?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 7: What do you mean why do I think it's rude? Yes,

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, okay, I mean Brook, would you like it

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Speaker 4: they were like, no, no, no, no, don't I already know.

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Speaker 1: That's wy I appreciate it when people tell me I'm

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Speaker 4: I get it, but it's kind of weird when it's like,

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Speaker 4: I've already heard it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I could see you being a little annoyed

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Speaker 1: It's the whole reason you never want to see him again.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, a big dealer or not. It made me mad.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was rude.

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Speaker 6: It gave me the ache.

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Speaker 4: I hate interrupt, but you did already tell us that

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Speaker 4: you made us mad. I'm just we're kind of short

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Speaker 1: That's a new story she hasn't heard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, new information, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, theoretically if he was listening. James.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Chelsea, I, oh my god, we're going to lead

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I had to go this radio route, but I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, James, did you hear the part where she didn't

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Speaker 4: like that you interrupted her story and said, no, I've

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but okay, it was a long story and I

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Speaker 3: The story was too long for you' I was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: I would cut someone off.

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Speaker 1: But you have to think of a more creative way

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you thought my story was too long and boring.

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Speaker 5: Not boring is just so sad, like when you told

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Speaker 7: Want okay, but you should let all that finish the story.

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Speaker 7: Like maybe I like to retell my stories sometimes because

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Speaker 7: sometimes you're not listening to the full thing anyway every

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Speaker 4: I may remember another fact that I forgot lost time.

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Speaker 2: Not only that, but if it's a sad story, you

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Speaker 1: Lad like that that.

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Speaker 2: I can see James where maybe that was a bad timing.

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Speaker 5: But we were trying to have a good fun night, Like,

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Speaker 5: why bring it down?

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Speaker 4: I didn't want Yeah, and you ruined that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like she was looking for like a safe

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Speaker 2: And a green flag right now, James would be you

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Speaker 2: just owning that mistake and apologizing, not trying to make

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And Chelsea, can I ask you, is that the

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Speaker 4: reason why at the end of the night you turned

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Speaker 4: just got the top of your of your skull.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Actually, after he interrupted me from telling my story, I

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Speaker 5: Was it for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can you are you a person that has ever

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: If you agreed to listen to your story in its

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Speaker 7: Then I would just be thinking the whole time.

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Speaker 6: Have I told the story? Or is he bored? Or like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's just not going to work.

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Speaker 1: She keeps making points that I can see what she's say.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I know I feel the same way.

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Speaker 5: There's like nothing I can say here.

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Speaker 1: Wow, say sorry, yeah, you never do it again.

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Speaker 4: I know what I want to say. I want to

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Speaker 4: ask if you two will go out on another date again,

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Speaker 4: and we'd be willing to pay for it. But that's

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Speaker 4: really comes down to you, Chelsea, if you're willing to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, it's no for me. I think you should

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Speaker 6: just take it as a learning lesson for his next date.

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Speaker 5: Okay, maybe maybe you should learn like how to read

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Speaker 5: a room and not like bring the whole room down.

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Speaker 4: You're not backing down.

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Speaker 5: No, she's being rude to me. She's not even giving

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Speaker 1: Stories about like her childhood dog die, That's what it

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Speaker 7: No, I rescued him from a tree and then he

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Speaker 4: Oh Brook, why would you even bring that up?

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Speaker 5: Brook?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Red flag for the segments that one. Yes, don't ask

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Speaker 4: these questions ever again, Jeffrey in the morning. All right, listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry I had to bring back the red flag

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Speaker 4: alert out of retirement at the end there, But Brooke

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Speaker 4: crossed the line. We all agree we need yea.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No one else wanted to closure on what happened

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think we needed any more details.

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Speaker 1: Id of trust that there was a reason to cut

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a little bit hard because I felt like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it was a debate like in high school,

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Speaker 2: I think she won by one point.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know it was a debate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she came out on top. But I also think

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Speaker 4: that they probably should have gone out again because it

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Speaker 4: talked about it. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: I think this girl has zero patients.

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Speaker 4: She should have brought it up during the date and said, sorry,

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Speaker 4: I think it's rude for you to interrupt me telling

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Speaker 1: Nobody likes doing that, jeff that's the confrontation.

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Speaker 4: That's true. But if you want to hear all of

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Speaker 4: our stories, the second day ones are awkward tuesdays. All

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Speaker 4: of our content is up online. You can check it

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Speaker 4: out wherever you get your podcasts at Brook and Jeffrey