WEBVTT - One on One with Maria Menounos

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I am solo today because I have an incredible guest

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about her life, her story. If you just

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<v Speaker 1>read what has happened to her and what she's gone through,

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<v Speaker 1>you would say this is a crazy, tragic story. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>when you listen to Maria Manunos, when you hear her voice,

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<v Speaker 1>you realize it is anything but tragic, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>all about her perspective. And Maria Manunos, if you don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you do. Journalists, television presenter, actress, hosted Extra

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<v Speaker 1>and E News and has been a TV correspondent on

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<v Speaker 1>Today's Show and you name it. Marie and I. I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to think if we've worked together. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we have it at points throughout the twenty plus years

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<v Speaker 1>we've both been in Hollywood together. I know we have

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<v Speaker 1>worked alongside each other on red carpets and at events

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously hosting The Bachelor and stuff for some twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Are pathsive crossed. She is a wife, a mother, an entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 1>She has an amazing podcast that she has started because

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<v Speaker 1>of all of the health stuff that she and her

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<v Speaker 1>mom have gone through. It's called the heel Squad. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into it. Let's welcome to the most dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Ever. Maria Manunos. All right, Maria Manunos, ringers off,

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<v Speaker 1>smile is on, We're good, We ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>We're ready, Chris, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>joining me. You are somebody I've wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>for quite some time. Not only do you just have

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<v Speaker 1>this amazing charisma and charm and wit, and I've always

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<v Speaker 1>loved to watch you and work alongside you as we

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<v Speaker 1>have for well, I hate to say it probably decades now,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have an amazing story as well that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people followed, and I know the audience to

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<v Speaker 1>the most Dramatic podcast ever will love diving into all

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<v Speaker 1>of this with you, and so I appreciate you being here.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are incredibly busy because I know you

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<v Speaker 1>have a two month.

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<v Speaker 2>Old Yes I do that ever happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I am amazed at the smile and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you look like you may have gotten five to six

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<v Speaker 1>hours of sleep which is pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, don't tell anyone. I'm definitely sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, so Athena, your beautiful daughter is sleeping through the night,

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<v Speaker 1>eating like all is good. Don't tell anybody. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a bad thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the pediatrician told me today, she goes, do not

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<v Speaker 2>tell anybody that she's sleeping through the night. They'll kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll be so pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of that's kind of a thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got lucky with my two kids. I had friends

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<v Speaker 1>who had the calligey baby, the ones who you had

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<v Speaker 1>to put on the uh washing machine or whatever to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of rock them asleep, or they drove them around

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood all night long. So I've heard the horror stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god that wasn't me, and apparently that's not you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I'm like I said, I'm even scared

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<v Speaker 2>to say it now. Seriously, what any bad juju coming

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<v Speaker 2>our way?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're smart, You're You're only two months into this.

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<v Speaker 1>So much can change, and it will, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I really think Chris, God just gave me the reprieve.

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<v Speaker 2>God was like, this, poor girl, she's gone through so much,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just give her a good baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, yeah, the least there.

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<v Speaker 2>Are good babies and bad babies. I don't believe there

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<v Speaker 2>are good babies and bad babies. They're all good.

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<v Speaker 1>There are more challenging children and less challenging, especially at

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<v Speaker 1>every stage, by the way, but especially when you start,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is just such it's such a change for

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<v Speaker 1>you and Kevin to go from this independent. We can

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere, do anything any reservation we want to. Now

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<v Speaker 1>your life is controlled by this little nugget. How much

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<v Speaker 1>has it changed?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? We weren't those people that were like,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't live normal lives. Chris like, I worked crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a human airplane. I did ten thousand jobs

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<v Speaker 2>at once. And then health crises hit our family and

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<v Speaker 2>so the last seven years was caretaking and cancer and

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. So we haven't had the normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Like even Kevin and I's courtship was ruined. We never

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<v Speaker 2>got like a proper courtship. We didn't get married until

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years in basically, you know, so everything happened later

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<v Speaker 2>for us. We were never those people were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we're like traveling here this summer. We never did that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff until the last few years. We've just started traveling

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and so, yeah, we are so grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for this change because it's what's been missing in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I've won this for so long. I've been really feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that that whole, and my parents kind of filled it

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<v Speaker 2>because I always looked at my parents like they were

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<v Speaker 2>my kids. I took care of them, I spoiled them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was time for me to have my little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>When they say that clock is ticking, whatever that is,

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<v Speaker 1>you were feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>That, I was, Yeah, I was scared.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not asking yourself those questions as a human being,

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<v Speaker 1>as you were about to be given another human being

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<v Speaker 1>to care for, you're crazy out of your mind. Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're just so arrogant that you think you're perfect

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<v Speaker 1>at everything. If you don't think that, you are not prepared.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand that because you are given a child,

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<v Speaker 1>a human then you just go home and that is

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<v Speaker 1>just not a normal thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was thinking yesterday the first time I drove

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<v Speaker 2>her in my car, and how slow they used to

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<v Speaker 2>call me Maria ANDRETTI. I love speed, I love driving.

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<v Speaker 2>I was triving like such a snail, so scared doing

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<v Speaker 2>the cross and the car, praying to.

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<v Speaker 1>God were you just looking in your rearview mirror the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time because when Josh was my first, my son

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<v Speaker 1>who's now a senior in college. By the way, it

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<v Speaker 1>will happen very quickly, so don't worry about any sleepless

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<v Speaker 1>nights or when she when she throws up on you

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<v Speaker 1>or what. Just enjoy it all. But did you drive

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<v Speaker 1>around that first day? I remember leaving the hospital and

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<v Speaker 1>just looking like, is this He's still back there? He's

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<v Speaker 1>still back there, Just constantly checking and looking like what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we had a fly home because she was born

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<v Speaker 2>in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, true, So Athena by the way, for people

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<v Speaker 1>that don't know, born via surrogate in Wisconsin, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you guys live in La.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know, we flew and got home. I

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<v Speaker 2>think by the time we landed in our actual home

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<v Speaker 2>it was like one o'clock in the morning. We had

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<v Speaker 2>been gone for three weeks, just you know, on baby

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<v Speaker 2>watch because we thought she was coming early, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course she came a day after her due dates, so

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<v Speaker 2>she really stretched our Wisconsin time out. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of you know, what's funny, it was the one

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<v Speaker 2>time in life that we had where we had nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do and just an abundance of time. So my dad, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would just go to different restaurants throughout Milwaukee, breakfast, lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and dinner, and we just enjoyed absolute, like peaceful nothingness

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<v Speaker 2>for so long, just anticipation and excitement. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>cool kind of together time. But yeah, we came in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night and it was just my

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<v Speaker 2>friends had already helped me set up the house, thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just all ran to our corners, unpacking, setting up,

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<v Speaker 2>getting her ready. And then the next day we took

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<v Speaker 2>a deep breath and we're like, Okay, we made it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of cheese curds in Wisconsin. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time. What was your relationship with the surrogate

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<v Speaker 1>and do you have a relationship now or will you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, they're family for life. They gave us the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest gift in the world, and we really built a

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<v Speaker 2>great friendship with them and love them. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've already come visit. They came out to visit two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks after we brought them out so they could go

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<v Speaker 2>to Disney, and we just we love them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious, obviously, It's hard to answer because this is

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<v Speaker 1>their perspective, But what is their feeling when they're around Athena?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they just excited because she's in such an amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>loving home and an amazing loving relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. Both of them were on my show

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<v Speaker 2>Heel Squad, and they talked about the journey with us

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<v Speaker 2>and how rewarding it was to see us that moment

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<v Speaker 2>we became parents, so they'll never forget that moment and

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<v Speaker 2>just how special it was. And her husband remarked on

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<v Speaker 2>hearing me talk to friends on the phone, He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>hearing you say it's so great to call people with

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<v Speaker 2>good news from a hospital for once. Yeah, he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that just moved me so much. And I realized, like

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<v Speaker 2>what we just did. And so when they came over,

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<v Speaker 2>it was great to have time to see her in

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<v Speaker 2>her environment and the kids, her kids or their kids

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<v Speaker 2>were so excited to see her in their environment and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of have that closure. And so, yeah, we're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>for an annual trip. We have a home in Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 2>so I said, every year, you guys got to come

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<v Speaker 2>in the summer and come visit and enjoy each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's very cool. What an amazing story, and just

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Athena will have that much more love

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<v Speaker 1>in her life is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned health and cancer tumors, etc. Let's dive into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back. So you are living this life with Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>Life is good. And then you and your mom, who

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<v Speaker 1>has since passed away, both had brain tumors simultaneously. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to even say that, it is hard to wrap your

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<v Speaker 1>mind around.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was diagnosed in early September or late August

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen with glioblastoma stage four brain tumor, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a couple months later in April, I in twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>was diagnosed with the men in geoma, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>benign They didn't know at the time for sure what

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<v Speaker 2>it was, but you know, once they operate they can

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<v Speaker 2>get all the pathology back. And they confirmed it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I had the top researcher in my studio here and

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<v Speaker 2>she said it was like lightning striking to have this happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't happen, she said. So it was very strange,

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<v Speaker 2>but it definitely took me on a whole journey of

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<v Speaker 2>health and wellness and caretaking and shifting my whole life

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<v Speaker 2>into I think my purpose and my mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was going to ask you, and that your

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<v Speaker 1>researcher kind of took it away. I was wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>doctors ever said to you and your mom, like, how

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<v Speaker 1>this little cluster could have happened, if it's just this

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<v Speaker 1>weird once and a bajillion anomaly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't know, and they're not hereditary, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>technically connected in any kind of way, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just called it my gift from go because

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<v Speaker 2>it was my gift. It was my invitation to change

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<v Speaker 2>my life. And I am a much happier person now.

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<v Speaker 2>I am just so much calmer. I am, ironically, even

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<v Speaker 2>though you'll see there are more health battles that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived a pretty unhealthy life though I look healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in toxic environments, toxic you know situations. I

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<v Speaker 2>was eating fast food twenty four to seven just to

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<v Speaker 2>make the day because I was working twenty hours a

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<v Speaker 2>day and seven days a week, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was so hustle, hustle, hustle. I can do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I always say life is in your health

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<v Speaker 2>is an accumulation of your choices. So at some point

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<v Speaker 2>I got better about my choices. My best friend convinced

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<v Speaker 2>me to quit fast food, so I quit the fast

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<v Speaker 2>food and then you know, just eventually the wheels come

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<v Speaker 2>off the wagon. And I think that though we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot of research on IVF, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>IVF did me any favors either. Because you're introducing all

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<v Speaker 2>these synthetic hormones into your body. I knew it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a good energy for me. I felt it. I did

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<v Speaker 2>not like the idea, But hormones grow things. So now,

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<v Speaker 2>whether the brain tumor was in my head at that

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<v Speaker 2>point or not, I now started feeling extreme head pain

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<v Speaker 2>and other symptoms that led me to the brain brain

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<v Speaker 2>tumor discovery. Wow, and so who knows?

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<v Speaker 1>And you go through surgery, you get the brain tumor

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<v Speaker 1>taken out, but that wasn't the end for you. There

0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:52.319
<v Speaker 1>was cancer following a brain tumor. So when did you

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<v Speaker 1>get the cancer diagnosis?

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<v Speaker 2>So that was earlier this year. You know, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many things that have happened in my life. I also

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<v Speaker 2>the caretaking journey is really really arduous and painful and emotional,

0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.600
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people get cancer, taking care of

0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:12.520
<v Speaker 2>people with cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's a woman actually who created a clinic

0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.320
<v Speaker 2>in Mexico called Baja Dgate. That's where I took my

0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.760
<v Speaker 2>mom on two different occasions to help her when her

0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.760
<v Speaker 2>tumor was growing. And she created the clinic because she

0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.040
<v Speaker 2>got cancer taking care of her mother who had cancer.

0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.800
<v Speaker 2>And the clinic basically their whole mission is we don't

0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.320
<v Speaker 2>just take care of the patient, we take care of

0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.320
<v Speaker 2>the caretaker as well. So when my mom was getting

0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.080
<v Speaker 2>vitamin C infusions or whatever, so was my dad. He

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.320
<v Speaker 2>was right next to her. Now, I was also the caretaker,

0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:46.120
<v Speaker 2>but I had to keep on working.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never heard that that's really So they're making

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<v Speaker 1>a direct correlation between someone who has cancer and the caretaker.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have research on it. Yeah, but but that's

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<v Speaker 2>why she founded this this this place clinic and caretaking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you'll see, I'm pretty sure if I have

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<v Speaker 2>the statistic right, it was you know what, Actually, I

0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.360
<v Speaker 2>can pull it up because you're gonna it's gonna blow

0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:21.560
<v Speaker 2>your mind. And the caretaking crisis is such a major thing.

0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.720
<v Speaker 2>This is the message of what is what caretaking is

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the toll it's taking on women's bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>So forty three million unpaid caregivers, mainly women in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford found forty percent of Alzheimer's and dementia patient caregivers

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<v Speaker 2>die before the patient they're taking care of. Wow. Fort yes,

0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.200
<v Speaker 2>and Alzheimer's is about to overwhelm the system in the

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<v Speaker 2>next twenty years. So I don't have statistics on the cancer,

0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.160
<v Speaker 2>but that statistic on the Alzheimer's just shows you how

0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.800
<v Speaker 2>much of a whole caretaking takes on a person, So

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that that also was a problem. There

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<v Speaker 2>was also a really crazy statistic about the amount of

0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:14.440
<v Speaker 2>people that got diabetes after getting COVID, So post COVID,

0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I got a whole bunch of other shit that happened

0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.080
<v Speaker 2>onto immune wise, and I was trying to get to

0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.720
<v Speaker 2>the bottom of all of it. In the interim. I

0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:27.480
<v Speaker 2>got another one called type one diabetes last June, and

0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.000
<v Speaker 2>so I'm dealing with the type one diabetes. I'm having

0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.320
<v Speaker 2>these weird pains. I'm going to the hospital. They're telling

0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.560
<v Speaker 2>me I'm fine. Well, they missed a tumor that was

0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.800
<v Speaker 2>two centimeters in November last year that doubled in size

0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:43.000
<v Speaker 2>by January. Of this year, and that was on my pancreas,

0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:49.320
<v Speaker 2>and so they diagnosed me with this pancreas tumor and

0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I had surgery February sixteenth. They removed the tail of

0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.600
<v Speaker 2>my pancreas, my spleen, seventeen lymph nodes, and then I

0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.000
<v Speaker 2>also had a fibrary the size of a baby. So

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.879
<v Speaker 2>though I did not give birth to a baby, I

0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.840
<v Speaker 2>have a C section scar from the fibroid baby they

0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.919
<v Speaker 2>took out. And so that was the beginning part of

0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:17.119
<v Speaker 2>this year. And I'm lucky because this is exactly what

0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Steve Jobs died of. And so if mine was growing

0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.280
<v Speaker 2>that rapidly in two months, I'm like, do the math,

0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:24.919
<v Speaker 2>where would I have been by the time end of

0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.600
<v Speaker 2>June world around when Athena was born. So it was

0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.320
<v Speaker 2>really scary. But the thing that's scariest is when you

0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:35.600
<v Speaker 2>hear tumor on the pancreas, You're like, oh, I literally

0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.520
<v Speaker 2>looked at the radiologist. I'm like, so I'm a goner.

0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, that's usually not great.

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<v Speaker 2>Like white as a ghost, Chris, He's welling up. He's

0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.760
<v Speaker 2>so freaked out. He's like, you need to go to

0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.919
<v Speaker 2>the hospital right now. And I'm like oh my God.

0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.400
<v Speaker 2>And Kevin and I just numb, but having gone through

0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 2>so many crises, we're like, okay, just stay calm. We

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.479
<v Speaker 2>get to the doctor now. My doctor is like, this

0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.679
<v Speaker 2>better be the dumbest radiologist that ever happened in this world.

0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.359
<v Speaker 2>He's like, this would be the cruelest joke in the world.

0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.840
<v Speaker 2>We do an MRI, they confirm the tumor in the pancreas.

0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 2>He's now crying with me in the lobby, like.

0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.800
<v Speaker 1>What the yeah, that's worth a what the f.

0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.920
<v Speaker 2>And Kevin is like, We're going to be fine, guys,

0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.240
<v Speaker 2>stop crying. We're gonna be fine. We're going to be fine.

0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.399
<v Speaker 2>I meanwhile, he's terrified because he knows we have a

0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.400
<v Speaker 2>baby on the way, and I'm just like, how could

0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.520
<v Speaker 2>God finally bless me with a baby and I'm not

0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be here for her. And then the more

0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought about it, the more I realized, well, maybe

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.360
<v Speaker 2>this doesn't make sense, Maybe this isn't the story that

0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking the worst case scenario. They started shifting my

0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 2>energy into possibilities. And I use this technique called choose

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.480
<v Speaker 2>wonder over worry, so I would say, I wonder what

0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.199
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be like when the doctor calls me

0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.040
<v Speaker 2>with good news next and he would, I wonder what

0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.359
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be like when I get to the

0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.480
<v Speaker 2>other side of surgery and I do great And it happened,

0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and so I started doing that and helped. But there

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 2>was a period that was scary, and my doctor didn't

0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.520
<v Speaker 2>show me the report, thank god, where they said they

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.320
<v Speaker 2>thought it was at our non rome and a carcinoma,

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the badst tumor that so I always get the good tumors,

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:18.200
<v Speaker 2>if you can have the worst tumors, but the best

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.040
<v Speaker 2>of the worst, right exactly. My mom wasn't so lucky.

0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.920
<v Speaker 1>But when did your mom pass away?

0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 2>My mom passed away two years ago in May.

0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I marvel at and I guess the only thing

0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you could do is is laugh or smile at this point.

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.880
<v Speaker 1>But I marvel at your attitude. And you mentioned how

0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it your philosophy has changed, life has changed. What was

0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.359
<v Speaker 1>the what was the impetus for that? Because you could

0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.840
<v Speaker 1>just as easily have gone down the other path of

0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:05.440
<v Speaker 1>being bitter, angry, pissed off at the world, and yet

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not. Because it did take your mom, and it

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:11.440
<v Speaker 1>did affect your dad, and it has clearly affected you

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and you've been through it. How are you this person

0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:17.280
<v Speaker 1>with such positivity?

0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I always do remember how blessed I am, and

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:27.679
<v Speaker 2>I always like, even with the brain to I'm like,

0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I've had an amazing life. Yes, there have been a

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of painful times, but I've lived a life that

0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, one percent of people could ever live. So

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.639
<v Speaker 2>if this is the end, this is the end. I had,

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, a great ride. I know I'm super blessed,

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and I also am always thinking so many people have

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 2>it way worse. Yes, I had my head, saw it open,

0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 2>and I've got all these cuts everywhere from the other

0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 2>surgeries and stuff. But I'm strong and i can handle it,

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and I have my family around me, and I'm good.

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I can do it. You know, when my mom was

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.920
<v Speaker 2>passing those six months we were on the East Coast

0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.160
<v Speaker 2>with her giving our safe passage. Sometimes my dad would

0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.320
<v Speaker 2>be like cooking and he'd break down and he say,

0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 2>why us, Maria, why so many things in our family?

0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, Dad, why not us? Why everybody else?

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.600
<v Speaker 2>We can't always think it's going to be someone else,

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:27.400
<v Speaker 2>or why is this unique thing happening to us? One

0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.600
<v Speaker 2>in three women and one and two men will get cancer.

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:35.399
<v Speaker 2>I just did stand up to cancer. That's the statistic people.

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>So what we need to do is we need to

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.520
<v Speaker 2>come to grips with bad Shit's going to happen. How

0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 2>are we going to handle it? I choose to go

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.399
<v Speaker 2>through it with humor. It doesn't mean that I don't

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 2>have my down moments. I was on my knees thinking

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I may not get to meet my daughter that I've

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 2>been dreaming of for so many years and struggled so

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 2>hard to get So I was crushed, but I didn't

0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:01.280
<v Speaker 2>stay there. It's how long you stay there. And and

0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 2>that's you know why I'm on this, Like maybe you

0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 2>call it a health crusade, whatever it is. With my show,

0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I want to help people get as healthy as they

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:16.320
<v Speaker 2>can to minimize and mitigate what might be coming. Right,

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 2>So some of us have made a lot of, you know,

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.119
<v Speaker 2>not so great choices. The mac truck's coming. Can we

0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 2>slow it down? Can we get it to veer to

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:24.919
<v Speaker 2>the left, right?

0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Or when it does hit you, you rebound from it quicker

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you have a better chance of surviving that hit. Yeah,

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:36.879
<v Speaker 1>but your I guess the best word is perspective. You

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:41.159
<v Speaker 1>have amazing perspective, And that's when I had read all

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>about your story. And obviously I've known you for years.

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I know we're not like best friends, but I've always

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of kept up with your story because I knew you,

0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, God, her perspective is amazing. And that's

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:59.199
<v Speaker 1>the difference to me of people that become relentless and

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 1>perpetual victims as opposed to as you just said, very astutey,

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and I think you just crushed it. How long do

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you stay in that misery? How long do you remain

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a victim before you say, Okay, what do I do now?

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's time to get up, Rocky. It ain't about

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>how hard you hit, It's about how hard you can

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 2>get hit and keep moving forward. When I got out

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.480
<v Speaker 2>of brain surgery, Chris Kevin was filming me, because I

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, film everything. I want to know everything. Yeah,

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 2>And the first things I said out of surgery was

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that quote. And it's really, you know, there's certain things,

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>certain mantras like that life is happening for me, not

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 2>to me. Those are all mantras and quotes that help

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>me get back up. And you know the reality is,

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 2>no one's calming to save us, like we have to

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 2>save ourselves. We've watched all these Disney movies going to

0:23:56.200 --> 0:23:59.959
<v Speaker 2>be rescued, and we're the ones that have to rescue

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>ourselves and it's not easy. So you try to surround

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 2>yourself with good people, and humor is a really great

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.199
<v Speaker 2>way to get through a lot of things. And then

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 2>we have to look around and just say someone has

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 2>it worse. Doesn't mean we can't have our feelings. We

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 2>are entitled to our feelings, our emotions. It's going to

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>be harder some days than others, but we have such

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 2>a short time here. How do you want to live

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that time? So if that was my only you know,

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 2>two weeks or three weeks or three months, like you know,

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe I was headed towards Steve Jobs, how did I

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 2>want to live those moments? And I've watched enough inspiring

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 2>movies to say I'd rather be like them, And so

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 2>that always inspires me. Is those people who are quadriplegic

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and they're, you know, at the Olympics doing unbelievable things.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't know if I could do that.

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I really don't know. I don't know what it's you know,

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 2>what it's like to be in those situations, I can walk.

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 2>You have to think of what you can cand do

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 2>rather than what you can't do. And I don't know,

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's worked for me. And listen, I had

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.120
<v Speaker 2>a great role model. I watched my mom. We were

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 2>talking about this and crying at dinner last night, me,

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 2>my dad, and my mom's best friend. My mom heard

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>you have a brain tumor. She smiled. She went into

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:26.679
<v Speaker 2>surgery brain surgery with a smile. So what was I

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 2>going to do? Cry?

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I had a role model. I saw another way. And

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 2>so I think if enough of us see another way

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 2>to handle crisis, to handle something rough that happens in

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 2>your life, something you didn't deserve. Right, we always have

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 2>those moments when something should be happened and you're like,

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't deserve this. I'm a good person. Why would

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>this happen? Yeah? And by the way, you're entitled to

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>a little of it, of course, But then, how do

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to spin this? How do I want to

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 2>make lemonade out of this? Because lemonade is meant to

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 2>be made. God is pivoting you. I say God, you

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 2>can say Universe, you can say whatever you believe in

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>for me, God is pivoting you away from something for

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>a reason. God pivoted me out of so much I

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 2>didn't belong in for a reason, put me towards the

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 2>path I needed to be in. And so I just

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I've always just been like, God, take me where I'm

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 2>supposed to go. I'll be a good person, I'll work

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 2>really hard. Just show me the way. I don't know where.

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 2>People always thought I had some master plan in my

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>career or whatever. I'm like, I'm just going I'm gonna

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.160
<v Speaker 2>go wrestle here. I'm going to go do that over here.

0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 2>And I just did whatever was in front of me.

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 2>That felt good, and because I know that there's a

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 2>path and I know I'm going to be taken there,

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 2>and so I was. And that's what I'm doing every

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 2>single day, and I'm lit over it because I'm helping myself,

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm helping my loved ones, and I'm helping other people

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 2>take control of their health.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that perspective. I love the

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>attitude because I fully believe in that as well. Well.

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.600
<v Speaker 1>That look, head, take your moment, have a pity party,

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>but then figure out why what's next moving forward? I

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>fully have lived that myself and I love that. And

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 1>as you look back, I'm curious because I know now

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>there are thousands and thousands of people who look at you,

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>listen to you, listen to the Heel Squad, and now

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure reach out to you if you could. And

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is fair, but is there

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>one change? Is there one healthy habit? Is there one

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>moment where you look back you're like, that's the biggest

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>or that was the thing, okay.

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 2>And this is not being promotional. This is your accountability partner.

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Every day. I always say, if you want to get healthy,

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you got to hang out with healthy people. If you

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 2>want to make money, go be with people who are

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 2>making money, like you have to surround yourself with what

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>you want to be. And so I always tell people

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 2>listen to my show Ohel Squad because you're going to

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 2>be continuously exposed. It's a good brainwashing, and so you're

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna be continuously exposed to new techniques, new modalities, new

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>ways of thinking, new health experts, new health hacks. And

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>so my formula for people for their foundation is get

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 2>your circadian rhythm in in play. So that's getting outside

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>just before sunrise, seeing that change in light that sets

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>your circadian rhythm. It tells your body what time it

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>is and what processes it's going to start doing. And

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 2>then throughout the day, if any of you work in

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>fluorescent lighting, oh my lord, we got to kill the

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 2>fluorescent lights. Go outside, even if it's for two minutes.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Pretend you're a smoker and you need a smoke break.

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Just go outside and get that light in your eyeballs.

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Your eyes have your retinas have UV receptors. That light

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>is so important to your body. So I'm outside every

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 2>morning at sunrise. Just before I get that light, I

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 2>go inside. After fifteen minutes, I feed the dogs. I

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>go get Athena. I bring her outside where both I'm

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>in a bikini, she's in her little diaper, and I

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>feed her first feeding outside in that fresh early sunlight.

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>It's the most medicinal sunlight. We're told to stay away

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 2>from the sun and no, hold on, add some toxic

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>sunscreen on top of your skin. That's going to go

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to your body. And the common denominator across most are

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 2>all cancers is low vitamin D. But stay away from

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the sun and hold on, make sure you put that

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>toxic shit on your skin. Yeah, get in the sun,

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 2>build your solar callus very slowly, and get that medicine.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Your body is like a solar panel for your For.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>The light, guys, obviously Maria is not spinning her winter

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>in Wisconsin or Chicago.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, then you need red light inside.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And I was gonna say, I was asking if you

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>believe in the uh, the salt saunas, and.

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 2>The yeah, I do. So there's little red lights you

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 2>can buy for cheap, and you can at least be

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 2>getting that light in the winter months that you're missing

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>from being outside. So it's circadian rhythm getting the light.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Blue blockers, blue light toxicity I thought was bullshit. I

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 2>thought it was a scam, so we'd all go buy

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>new sunglasses or new glasses. It's not. It actually raises

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 2>your blood sugar. I'm Type one diabetic. For a moment,

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to heal that. But anyway, blue light actually

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 2>raises your blood sugar. It does all these bad things,

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's I mean, it does a lot of bad

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>things in young people, so very controversial. But Jack Cruise,

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>doctor Jack Cruse said, one of the worst things we

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>can do is put our kids in front of blue light,

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and that means tablets, phones, TVs, and so blockers are

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 2>really really important for during the day when you're in

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>blue light and then at night full blockers. So you'd

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 2>see Bono wearing those red glasses. Pretty sure he was

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>wearing blue blockers that whole time.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>We always thought he was just being cool.

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, block the light, the blue light from your indoor

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 2>lighting at night, and that helps to not interrupt your

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>circadian rhythms, so your body will produce melatonin at the

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 2>proper time. You have to eat your food before sunset.

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>It's actually becoming a thing now, so it's becoming the

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>cool thing to do early dinners. I've been doing them

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>before they were cool.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 1>So people in Boca Raton, they've eating their dinner at

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>four thirty. They've had it all along.

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>They've had it all along because you want your body

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>when it's producing melatonin to not be interrupted by having

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 2>dinner at a PM. And your body's like, wait, I'm

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>eating dinner now, and so you got so you add

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>that in and that is like my biggest thing for

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 2>right now. You do those things and ps, please get

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>a natural path on board. You got to know and

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>this is what I share on my show all the time.

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Chris is you have to know your team. You're the coach.

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>You putting quarterback in the kicker position? Are you putting

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 2>the kicker in defense? No, know your team. Your Western

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 2>doctors are great at diagnosing mostly er your heart attack,

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>you broke your leg, stitch you up, give me a

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 2>life saving pancreas surgery, and diagnosing and prescribing, prescribing, very

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>good at prescribing. I mean they yes, it's a big

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 2>part of their their medical meeting, and so we love

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>them for what they're great at. Where they're weaker is

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>healing and getting to the root cause of something. They're

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>great at the band aids.

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.959
<v Speaker 1>And stuff, and in typically nutrition they spend about an

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 1>hour of med school.

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, on nutrition, and Hippocrates said, the father of medicine said,

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>let food be thy medicine. Why are we forgetting that?

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>So if you get a natural it doesn't make money.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 2>This is true.

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a whole different that's a different podcast for a

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>different time.

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 2>So get a naturopath on board. Yes, who's going to

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>spend two hours with you in an appointment and go

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>to the root cause of why you're having diest of

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 2>issues and if you're having excuse me, forgive me. Diarrhea

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>and flatulence and all that stuff, and gas and bloating.

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>None of that is normal. So you need to go

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 2>talk to a doctor. And so that's my formula.

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>God, that is huge. I love it. By the way,

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the passion behind everything you're talking about I love as well.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Before we go and we could go on for days

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>on this. I do love the quote that no one's

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>coming for you, you got to do this yourself. At

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the same time, I have to imagine that Kevin, your husband,

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>who has been there every step of the way, must

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 1>be a rock.

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he was. And you know who was unexpectedly a

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>rock was my dad. I don't want to tell my

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 2>dad because he had been through hell already. The last

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>thing I wanted to be like, oh, by the way,

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 2>now I have the other worst thing in the world, like.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>His two girls, is you know two loves.

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really, really rough and so but you

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>know what was amazing is he handled it so well.

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 2>He was such a rock, and it was what I

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 2>really needed. I needed to really get to be the

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 2>daughter and be taken care of. And I gave him

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>that that gift. A lot of us always try to

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.359
<v Speaker 2>protect our parents now I think it's like the trend right, yeah,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 2>but I now gave him the gift to be able

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>to be a dad and take care of me, and

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 2>I got that great gift right back. So it was amazing.

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And Kevin one hundred percent total rock, not gonna lie.

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>This one really frightened him. He was really scared, and

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 2>we were having conversations about how I wanted Athena raised

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 2>because we were so afraid in the first week when

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 2>we were waiting for information. But at some point he

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 2>shifted as well, and he was like, you're gonna be fine.

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, are you sure, And he's like, yes,

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're gonna be good. He's like, probably gonna

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>need surgery, but you're gonna be good. I'm like, okay,

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>but are you sure.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>He sounds like a wonderful guy, and I want it.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to have you back on again because the

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>podcast is Heal Squad by the way, with Mariamo Nunos,

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and this consider this a band aid of getting you

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>on this path. This was a small band aid on

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a bullet hole. For the rest of this please go

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 1>to Heal Squad. And I agree. You are the sum

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>total of the five best friends around you. You are

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the sum total of what you surround yourself with. Listen

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to people that believe in healing and proactive maintenance and medicine,

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and I totally agree.

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 2>So I won't ever just give into the diagnosis. I

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>always say, like, you don't know the story's ending, so

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:50.479
<v Speaker 2>why are you creating it by catastrophizing. Believe in hope,

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>believe in possibility. Okay, and if you're wrong, and you

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 2>know now you're that person that made the mistake, to

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>believe like you went through it with in a much

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 2>more peaceful way. And I read this really great quote

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>in a book recently. I'm going to have this guest

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 2>on my show, and she said, when they say it's incurable,

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>it just means they haven't found a medicine that goes

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 2>with it yet. So we are healing unhealable things all

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 2>the time. I've already done it. I got sidetracked with

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>this whole thing, and I'm getting back on it, and

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>eventually I'll tell the story of a miraculous healing that

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>did take place. And I'm already reversing all the conditions

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>that I've got. The autoimmune stuff are all reversing based

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 2>on the circadian rhythm, the blue light glasses and all

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the different healing things that I'm doing, and so healing

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>is possible. So just remember that.

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Healing is possible. I love that, Maria men who knows.

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. I really appreciate the time, and

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>we will do this again soon.

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.400
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0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.040
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0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:01.520
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