Speaker 1: Now let's get to some headlines, or should I say
Speaker 1: advice from Charles Barkley in regards to me. Barkley, who's
Speaker 1: a friend and a brother, appeared on Outkicks Don't at
Speaker 1: Me Podcasts with Dan Dawkish. Dan asked Barkley about the
Speaker 1: myriad of places I've been seeing recently talking about sports,
Speaker 1: politics and even acting on General Hospital in recently.
Speaker 2: Law in Order.
Speaker 1: Here's what Barkley had to say, take a look at
Speaker 1: this place.
Speaker 3: So I don't want to be on TV more. I
Speaker 3: want to be on TV less. I don't think that's
Speaker 3: the stephen A. Smith method right now. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's hotelience. That's not listen, that's not As a matter
Speaker 3: of fact, I was in a studio last night and
Speaker 3: I see he's going to be on Law and Order tonight.
Speaker 3: I mean he's already on the he's already in General Hospital.
Speaker 3: Now he's gonna be on Law and Order tonight. And
Speaker 3: I was just laughing. I'm like, yo, man, you're starting
Speaker 3: to be too much right now. Like you're gonna be
Speaker 3: on CNN, you're gonna be on Foxing Friends, Now you
Speaker 3: on General Hospital, now you're on Law and Order. I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 3: knock it off. Stop being on every TV show because
Speaker 3: at some point people are going to regret. They're gonna
Speaker 3: be like, they're gonna get sick of you, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna be like, yeah, I probably did too much. But
Speaker 3: once you do too much, it's too late, and then
Speaker 3: people don't take you serious. And I think he's gotta
Speaker 3: be careful in that aspect.
Speaker 2: First order of business as a full warning. Anything I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say a full warning, just the heads up. Anything
Speaker 2: that I say.
Speaker 1: That is critical of Charles Barkley is all in fun.
Speaker 1: That is my friend, that is my brother. I love
Speaker 1: him dearly. I always have, I always will. He is
Speaker 1: as real and as authentic as it gets. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, weeks ago when he was critical of
Speaker 1: me as it pertained to my response to Lebron James,
Speaker 1: when Lebron James and I, you know, had our little spiel,
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley and I spoke on the phone, and what
Speaker 1: he said publicly is exactly what he said privately.
Speaker 2: That's my guy. But that doesn't mean I.
Speaker 1: Always agree with him, and it doesn't mean that I'm
Speaker 1: devoid of the right to call him a flaming hypocrite
Speaker 1: when it's called upond. Do y'all have any idea how
Speaker 1: many commercials Charles Barkley does a year? He'll tell us too.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Charles Barkley in two commercials? Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: By the way, the cat that you work with at
Speaker 1: least twice a week during the NBA season, it's Seaquille.
Speaker 1: Can we count the amount of endorsements he has? How
Speaker 1: often he's seen everywhere? What new product he's pitching? Did
Speaker 1: you say that about him?
Speaker 2: No? You didn't. But when it comes to me, I
Speaker 2: need to be careful.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, Dan dowcketsh see you know, you
Speaker 1: know slickly brings up you know, me with politics and
Speaker 1: all of.
Speaker 2: This other stuff.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it Charles Barkley who made news for years talking
Speaker 1: about his aspiration to run.
Speaker 2: For the governor of Alabama.
Speaker 1: Because that's where he's from before starring and orbing.
Speaker 2: And all of this other stuff. Wasn't that him?
Speaker 1: I mean, it just amazes me how people could say
Speaker 1: some of the things that they say.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it absolutely positively blows me away.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I'm not the one with commercials everywhere. I'm
Speaker 1: working Fox and Friends. Know that involves early mornings. That's
Speaker 1: a rare appearance that almost never happens.
Speaker 2: That's not accurate. ESPN is the worldwide leader.
Speaker 1: They have a multiple of multitude outlets, plus they put
Speaker 1: me on their dot com sites.
Speaker 2: Outside of that, you saw them.
Speaker 1: You see me occasionally on Sean Hannity occasionally. You see
Speaker 1: me pretty much weekly on Chris Cuomo's show on News Nation.
Speaker 1: He's a friend and he asked me to come on,
Speaker 1: and I come on.
Speaker 2: Where else have I been seen? Can we really really
Speaker 2: get to the heart of the matter.
Speaker 1: And this is a director that Charles Barkley, this is
Speaker 1: the director of all the folks out there.
Speaker 2: I'm making people very uncomfortable and I don't give a shit.
Speaker 1: You can sit there and talk about people not taking
Speaker 1: me seriously all you want to.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a serious brother. That doesn't mean I don't
Speaker 1: know how to laugh and smile and have fun. But
Speaker 1: I know who the hell I am.
Speaker 2: Talking about? Me on General Hospital?
Speaker 1: Why now, I've been on General Hospital for seven years.
Speaker 1: It's a soap opera. That's not a sports show. It's
Speaker 1: a different audience. I went on Law and Order, that's
Speaker 1: the first time I've been on primetime television for anything
Speaker 1: outside of working for ESPN.
Speaker 2: That's Law and Order. That's not sports.
Speaker 1: So if you're watching sports, chances are you're not watching
Speaker 1: those other things. You might not be watching soaps, you
Speaker 1: might not be watching Law and Order. So one would
Speaker 1: argue I'm reaching a different audience and I'm expanding and
Speaker 1: showing that I'm somewhat of a renaissance man, that I
Speaker 1: have the versatility to do the things.
Speaker 2: That I'm doing.
Speaker 1: People saw me acting, they say, hey, does a good job,
Speaker 1: and I'm supposed to scale that back because.
Speaker 2: Of my conspicuous presence. Last time I checked.
Speaker 1: That's what we're in this business for, and the people
Speaker 1: laughing and dismissing it. Are you trying to tell me
Speaker 1: you would turn down those opportunities if it came your way?
Speaker 2: Why are you in this business? Yes, it's easy for
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley to.
Speaker 1: Sit up there and say two commercials a year, even
Speaker 1: though that's a lie because he's definitely doing more than two.
Speaker 2: But when you're making the money that you're making, that
Speaker 2: you have been.
Speaker 1: Making for years, you could afford to turn down those opportunities.
Speaker 1: Don't bring up my contract now that was just signed
Speaker 1: last month. You've been making that money for years, So
Speaker 1: when we look at it from that standpoint, what's that about?
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, when you see me.
Speaker 1: At other places, whether it be podcasts or other shows,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Volunteer to go talk to these people y'all calling ask.
Speaker 1: Yet you'll call and ask and then say I want
Speaker 1: to be seen where you're the one to call or
Speaker 1: ask me to be seen? Could it be because I
Speaker 1: speak with substance that I have something to say that
Speaker 1: will draw viewers and listeners to your respective shows.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what we're supposed to be doing in this business?
Speaker 1: So Charles Barkler, you continue to do the great job
Speaker 1: that you've been doing for TNT and next year the
Speaker 1: start at ESPN.
Speaker 2: Unlets Shaq market the hell out of himself the.
Speaker 1: Way that he does significantly better than almost anybody on
Speaker 1: this planet, and let me do what I do. I
Speaker 1: have no desire to run office. I have no desire
Speaker 1: to be a politician. I love talking about politics. I
Speaker 1: love talking about social giving social commentary or social issues,
Speaker 1: and I love talking about sports. And if that's somehow,
Speaker 1: some way translates into me being in the mix and
Speaker 1: people talking to me about a potential political position, so
Speaker 1: be it.
Speaker 2: It's not where my interest lies. But I rule it
Speaker 2: out because I believe I could win.
Speaker 1: And I'll be damned if anybody, especially my friend and
Speaker 1: my brother, who did nothing for years other than play
Speaker 1: basketball yet repeatedly announced his desires to one day run
Speaker 1: for the governor of Alabama, is gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: tell me is a bit too much?
Speaker 2: It's too much. When I say it's too much, that's
Speaker 2: how I.
Speaker 1: Roll, respectfully, of course, And I'm be love for you,
Speaker 1: my brother, Dan Darkish.
Speaker 2: You're asking that question. I wonder why.
Speaker 1: If you're uncomfortable with the situation my brother, and you
Speaker 1: got questions to ask, just call me. I'll come on
Speaker 1: under one condition. You don't turn around and say, oh,
Speaker 1: he just wants to be on another show. I actually
Speaker 1: have things to say. I don't think anybody can deny that.
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that until a later date.
Speaker 2: Anyway,