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Speaker 1: Second date, update date. After a good but not great

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Speaker 2: Give out No, it's okay date okay, yeah, just.

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Speaker 1: A good not a great date.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna push you over the edge. Do you finally

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that's an option.

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Speaker 1: You could go with B play the waiting game and

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the same option as a option C.

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Speaker 1: Make up a story in your head about how that

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Speaker 1: person was probably some deranged psychopath, so it's justified that

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Speaker 1: But today's listener, Abby went a different route after going

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Speaker 1: on a good not great first date, so let's talk

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Speaker 1: to her about it. Abby, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: I thank you.

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Speaker 2: So are we gonna do that? We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: to you and then do nothing?

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Speaker 1: Is that the Yeah? We'll get to doing nothing in

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Speaker 1: a bit. But first, what's the name of this good

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Speaker 1: not great guy? His name is Luke? Oh Luke. That's

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Speaker 1: a good not even great name.

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Speaker 2: What terrible interro? I think the name Luke is nice?

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Speaker 1: Is like he's mad?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to set him up either as a

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Speaker 1: I just just call him normal then, right, normal in

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Speaker 1: the middle, sure, average, Luke Average. That sounds bad.

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Speaker 3: Honestly though, Like right at the beginning, I'm confused why

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Speaker 3: actually want to go out with most first date's just good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, successfully, Yeah, I think we need to hear more

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Speaker 1: Luke met and what you did for your date.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's a good dude. He has a good job.

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Speaker 4: He works in pharmaceutical industry, and I don't work in

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Speaker 2: Okay. Is that how you guys met through mutual friends

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No, we meant on the dating app.

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Speaker 4: We figured out that we live in the same part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it.

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Speaker 1: All sounds normal. Yeah, really good.

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Speaker 2: Average trying to avoid that word.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did the brewery go?

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Speaker 4: It was nice, like we chatted, we had stuff to

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Speaker 1: Like what you mean by that is like he checked

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Speaker 4: No, No, it was pretty normal, and I think so

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Speaker 3: Isn't just a quick thank you for the date like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it depends. I would say. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah? He did ask me out and I kind of

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Speaker 2: So how long ago was that?

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Speaker 4: This was two weeks ago?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So there was a weird thing that happened,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Luke was also there on a date.

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Speaker 4: Luke was also there on a date.

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Speaker 7: No, I mean, yeah, awkward.

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Speaker 1: But he's not doing anything wrong.

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Speaker 2: No, nobody's doing it.

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Speaker 3: She just ghosted it, and now she's back at the

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Speaker 1: What was the interaction between you two, Like, was there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we saw each other. We just kind

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Speaker 3: Wait, did you think he was cuter when he was

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Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, yeah, I mean, to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: How was the date with the new guy?

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Speaker 2: Nice, we'll call him in two weeks after this.

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Speaker 1: Clearly you were eyeing Luke over in the corner with

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Speaker 4: Well, I think I also didn't have anything to compare

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Speaker 4: and Luke was the first person I had dated at

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Speaker 3: It's like when you're in a competition and you have

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Speaker 2: They want to leave some room. Yeah yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: he got screwed in the judging.

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Speaker 1: You know, is that how you felt?

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I did that to him?

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Speaker 1: Conclusions Okay, So where's your head at now with Luke

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Speaker 4: The new guy was kind of whatever, and it made

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Speaker 1: Luke was also whatever, but he's less whatever.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so you texted Luke?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I texted him, was just like haha, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you didn't respond to him when he said that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know, But now maybe.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. Yeah, it sounds like you want what

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Speaker 6: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't know. Maybe Luke has moved on. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know, Okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: I hope you were like laughing a lot and looking

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Speaker 1: Too much fun or else Luke will be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Who says dating plays mine games on everybody not I.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna come back. We're gonna call this good

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Speaker 2: We won't use that as his nickname.

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Speaker 1: We promise we'll come up with something better and do

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Speaker 1: it with your second date update right after this hold

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Speaker 1: on second date update. What's the famous saying you don't

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Speaker 1: have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until after she met the second one she realized, actually,

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Speaker 1: maybe guy number one, Luke was slightly better. I pick

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Speaker 2: Who's the bear in this analogy? I really.

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Speaker 1: Brook, Obviously you're the bear, okay, and you're gonna maul

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Speaker 2: I always take the weakest link, you always do.

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Speaker 1: But that's how Abby ended up here looking for another

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Speaker 1: be calling average guy number two. Do you want us

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Speaker 1: just in case.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna stick with.

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Speaker 1: Commit like average week Sundays. Yeah, on the weekend, whole

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Speaker 6: For you to choose.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's pretty understanding though, Like you're back into

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a big danger of playing the field

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Speaker 1: right now in modern dating is there always seems to

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Speaker 2: For you, Jeff, it hasn't been forever decision.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong to committing to the first man who approaches you? Actually, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna dial his number right.

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Speaker 6: Now, Louke, Hey is this Luke? Who's it?

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Speaker 1: My name is Jeff. I'm on a radio show called

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Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 6: Luke.

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Speaker 5: This is this is real This is this is real

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Speaker 1: All we want to do is gently pry into your

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Speaker 1: It's more fun than it sounds. It's a segment we

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Speaker 5: Okay, uh, you're you're.

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Speaker 2: They are in this analogy right now, Jeff, Just so

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Speaker 2: you know what the analogy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: This is a segment where we try to help listeners

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Speaker 1: and help figure out the reason why. And the girl

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, are you upset with Abby?

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Speaker 5: I'm not bad upset anymore.

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Speaker 7: I mean that makes sense, but you were well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm assuming you're talking about when you two ran

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it is one of those make her feel

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Speaker 1: I told you mind game is not involved in dating

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Speaker 7: I mean, she might be upset too because of the guy.

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Speaker 2: Wait what her guy?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I ran into the guy in the bathroom, like the

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Speaker 2: What happened? What did you say?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I just told him the truth, you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh would that you know what? He got ghosted?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Why wouldn't I tell the guy of the truth.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't ask you. I know you would have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's more of a bro code kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't okay you you warned this other guy that

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Speaker 5: If he not problem it's just ghosting.

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Speaker 2: Well it's not. It doesn't even matter because she's not

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Speaker 3: Like, honestly, I don't know, I don't know if she

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Speaker 5: Yeah, does she really come on?

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Speaker 2: She texted you and asked you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought she was just upset because of what

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Speaker 1: Well, it didn't sound like she was upset because she

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Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, I guess. I mean, he didn't

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. Now she does know about it,

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Speaker 5: Hey, you're telling me.

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Speaker 2: You're telling that's Abby?

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Speaker 5: Say Hi, are you joking? Running now? The way he's

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Speaker 4: I'm actually wondering if you're the one that's joking, are

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Speaker 4: would you tell him that I was going to ghost him?

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Speaker 5: Well, didn't you ghost in?

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Speaker 4: I mean I haven't exactly.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you obviously told him that because that's what

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Speaker 4: Okay, but I mean, first of all, it's none of

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Speaker 4: genuinely I would do it because I'm interested in going

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Speaker 7: I have to ask, are you planning on seeing him again?

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Speaker 7: I guess not calling on the radio about me.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not going to see this other guy. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: I reached out to the radio because looks like I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm not like saying I have to like toot my

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Speaker 4: first date doesn't always have to be like sparkles and

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Speaker 4: And so I was interested in you.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's nice, but like, if you're ghosting him again,

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Speaker 7: this is a pattern. No, if she sees him on

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Speaker 7: a date with someone else, you'll text him again.

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Speaker 3: She's only been in the dating world, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 5: Like you know what, that's that's true. I guess you've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I mean there's kind of an awkwardness happening

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Speaker 1: your guys' date was like? Because now I can kind

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Speaker 1: of understand what you were saying, ye or some downs?

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Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: Time.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can at least tell him that you're

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Speaker 3: not ghosting him anymore, because this counsels out that ghost

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Speaker 3: you texted.

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Speaker 1: Him and yeah, hey, yeah, so go ahead.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look like I'm realizing some things here. Isould

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Speaker 2: That's good. Look at that learning from mistakes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I am genuine, I'm being honest here.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 6: Bro?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe her?

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Speaker 3: Luke?

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Speaker 5: I believe her. I think my expectations are still going

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Speaker 5: to be low. If that's okay with you?

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Speaker 1: Should be. Oh what a romantic thing to say.

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Speaker 2: That's so good. I would love low expectations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, real, I would expect absolutely nothing from you

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Speaker 2: You can impress them with anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to cry now that we've set the

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Speaker 1: for it. I'm going to give the option to Luke first,

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Speaker 7: Buddy, I will say yes, but I have to say

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Speaker 7: I expectations are low, and I expect you to ghost

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, is it disappointing if she doesn't?

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Speaker 5: Now, Hey, we can only go up from here.

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Speaker 1: That's how there you go, Abby, You scored a date

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Speaker 1: high five can in a date and it'll be a

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Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, it will be if you still want it.

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Speaker 1: That is, are you still interested? We don't change your

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm interested in Luke.

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Speaker 2: I want to go on another date.

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Speaker 1: Right, same brewery for a third time in a row.

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Speaker 1: You're going to run into the other guy.

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Speaker 2: That bartender is gonna be like, what is happening.

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Speaker 1: Murky Jeffrey in the morning. I gotta say I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of proud of Abby on that one, because she had

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Speaker 1: changed her mind, but no, she stuck to her guns

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Speaker 1: and said, I don't care if Luke is bad mouthing

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Speaker 1: I committed to him early on and I am sticking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she really did.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say didn't bad mouth, because he kind

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Speaker 1: of did. But he was just like, hey, she didn't

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Speaker 3: But finally the truth, finally someone said, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: you're right.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done that. She even said she's gonna

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Speaker 2: tell the other guy she's not interested. Didn't no guy

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Speaker 2: bathroom talk is like that.

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Speaker 1: Each other our backs, We got each other's fronts. It

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Speaker 2: It's awkward to talk when you guys wrote the YEP together.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we're not actually talking, we're just having each other's backs.

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Speaker 1: Oh and it's a good time. All I'm asking, though,

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Speaker 1: is blind loyalty too much to ask?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you should be blindly loyal to anyone.

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