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Speaker 1: It is Wednesay, October twenty third, twenty nineteen, season fifteen,
Speaker 1: in episode number seventy. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage Studios.
Speaker 1: At the start, it is our final show of the week.
Speaker 1: There will not be a Break tomorrow or Friday or Monday.
Speaker 1: There will be a joint show though tomorrow, so you
Speaker 1: guys stay tuned for that. Actually, it's gonna be really excited.
Speaker 1: It's really exciting. I'm looking forward to hearing that Nick
Speaker 1: will be on with Brian and Jesse and Nate and
Speaker 1: Shannon's gonna host it. So there's gonna be a ton
Speaker 1: of opinions. Sometimes they have enough powder keg. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know if they have enough microphones to go around
Speaker 1: for those guys, but it will be interesting listening. So
Speaker 1: makes you check that out. Today, though, before we get
Speaker 1: out of here for the week, we're gonna talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about expectations. Yesterday we talked about the offense.
Speaker 1: We went down through the entire offensive roster of the
Speaker 1: guys at play and gave you our opinions as far
Speaker 1: as where we expected them to be and where they
Speaker 1: are after seven weeks into the season. We'll do the
Speaker 1: exact same thing today on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: and uh and just kind of get this whole thing rolling.
Speaker 1: One thing I didn't get to yesterday, I want to
Speaker 1: ask real quick before we get into the defense, was just,
Speaker 1: overall for the offense, where do you guys think they are?
Speaker 1: Are they at expectations, above expectations or below expectations? Nice
Speaker 1: little debt. I don't know everybody's thinking. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to I know how to answer that, because like this,
Speaker 1: this team should be better than four and three. Okay,
Speaker 1: take me, let's let's tip. Let's break you down a
Speaker 1: little bit. Take me back to m August August. What
Speaker 1: did you think this offense would be? Running, passing? What
Speaker 1: did you think this offense would be? That's I guess
Speaker 1: that's that's why. I struggle to answer, because, like, just
Speaker 1: if you're looking at it statistically, I would say it's
Speaker 1: either at or above, Like Dak is playing great, that
Speaker 1: the passing is there, Gallup has taken a step, Witten
Speaker 1: has been what you thought he'd be, Cooper's on his grind.
Speaker 1: They're scoring a lot of points for the most part,
Speaker 1: with the one exception being New Orleans, and you're seeing
Speaker 1: the elements from Kellen Moore that we thought we would
Speaker 1: see at least to a degree, maybe not as much
Speaker 1: as we'd prefer, but it is there. But they're four
Speaker 1: and three, So I would say I would probably say
Speaker 1: at I guess I would say that as well. They
Speaker 1: lost a couple of games already this year their offense
Speaker 1: and they haven't really won any like shootout game games
Speaker 1: where they had to have the offense like that, So
Speaker 1: I would say probably at the expectations, it's just been
Speaker 1: so inconsistent. You know, you've seen them having great games
Speaker 1: and then you've seen others that it's like, what the
Speaker 1: heck are you doing now? I'll say this, I definitely
Speaker 1: was one that did not truly believe on Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: and what he could do. I think he somewhat exceeded
Speaker 1: my expectation in that aspect, because I expected to come
Speaker 1: in here and just see the same things over and over,
Speaker 1: at least during training camp. In those first games and
Speaker 1: even in the preseason, we saw new elements. We saw
Speaker 1: him trying new things and just being more fun in
Speaker 1: a way, you know, less predictable. Although people can argue
Speaker 1: that in these past games, oh, they've gone back to
Speaker 1: being predictable and all that. But at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season that's where I think he impressed me in
Speaker 1: that aspect. Now it just kind of disappear all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, but I still have hope that they can
Speaker 1: build on from this Eagles game and keep that moving forward.
Speaker 1: They've only stunk once in seven games, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it hasn't always been perfect again, But again, like offensively,
Speaker 1: that's no the offense, that's what we're talking. You know.
Speaker 1: The one thing I will point out is I think
Speaker 1: you can say in spurts and games, because there were
Speaker 1: certainly spurts are periods of the Jets and the Packers
Speaker 1: game with the offense was really not good. So they
Speaker 1: kind of got it together at some point, it wasn't
Speaker 1: enough and at a soon enough time where they still
Speaker 1: could win the game. But I would say, if you
Speaker 1: look at it from that standpoint, I would probably say
Speaker 1: they've probably had eight quarters or probably even less than
Speaker 1: that more. Yeah, probably an eight quarters seven eight quarters
Speaker 1: of bad offense this season? Would you guys agree with that?
Speaker 1: And Dolphins was one of two of them? So we'll say,
Speaker 1: so if you want to say the Dolphins, I was
Speaker 1: actually thinking too, from from Packers and UH and Jets
Speaker 1: and then pretty much they the offense really didn't do
Speaker 1: its job against New Orleans. So all right, we'll just
Speaker 1: say ten and ten quarters they've played to how many
Speaker 1: twenty eight? Yeah, so that's a third of the time.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's below expectations. Well, but here's a third
Speaker 1: of the time. But here's the deal. And this is
Speaker 1: where I maybe for me at least I look at
Speaker 1: it and say they're at expectations, is because I didn't
Speaker 1: think coming into the season they would be m you
Speaker 1: gave me the best offensively. I didn't think they would
Speaker 1: be the Saints with Breeze. I didn't think they'd be
Speaker 1: one of those offenses. I thought they'd be good. I
Speaker 1: didn't think they'd be great. And maybe this is what
Speaker 1: good is and not great. Well, the ranked first in
Speaker 1: the league in offense, so no one expected that, so
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of say that it's even at expectations.
Speaker 1: But it's a tricky question to answer it really is.
Speaker 1: I would I would say at good year four and three, yea,
Speaker 1: that number one offense hasn't really helped you as much
Speaker 1: as you would think it would. And really they were
Speaker 1: so good offensively in the four wins that that's what
Speaker 1: jade's those numbers when you say they're number one in
Speaker 1: the leagu Well, in those four games that they won,
Speaker 1: the offense was perfect. I mean they were really really good.
Speaker 1: And in the other three games, and really just in
Speaker 1: one of them, like you said, they were really really
Speaker 1: good Packer game just took it out. They wouldn't be
Speaker 1: first in the league. So that's why numbers are jaded,
Speaker 1: because they have all these stats and yards and all that.
Speaker 1: But I guess to that point, and yeah, they've had
Speaker 1: their struggles. They started slow, but like against New York,
Speaker 1: I mean Green Bay speaks for itself. They had like
Speaker 1: five hundred yards of offense in that game, but they
Speaker 1: put up four hundred against the Jets in a game
Speaker 1: that we would all agree they weren't good in so
Speaker 1: even when they're struggling, it's light years better than it
Speaker 1: was in the first half of last season. So and
Speaker 1: nobody gets I'm not going to praise anybody too much
Speaker 1: at four and three with the loss of the Jets,
Speaker 1: but I'll give them at expectation. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's go on. Enough flip to the defense. Let's go
Speaker 1: through these names. We got to start with what I
Speaker 1: think is the leader of this defense? To Marcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: has he been above at or below expectations? At expectations? Okay?
Speaker 1: For me, I was not what I thought you were
Speaker 1: gonna say, But okay, he's been at expectations. He's been.
Speaker 1: Really he's been a really good player. He's been very active.
Speaker 1: And how many sacks does he have? Three and a half?
Speaker 1: Maybe four? He's been He's I mean, I expected him
Speaker 1: to go out and get a lot of attention and
Speaker 1: do well, and I expect the guys around him to
Speaker 1: benefit from it. For me, he's at expectations. Allow me
Speaker 1: to contradict myself because I and I'm gonna keep defending him.
Speaker 1: I really do think he's played well below expectation. One
Speaker 1: hundred and eight million dollar contract that comes with pretty
Speaker 1: ridiculous expectations, and like maybe you could say you're never
Speaker 1: going to meet those, but that comes with the territory.
Speaker 1: Like when you get that kind of deal, that's what
Speaker 1: people expect. And I know he gets double teamed. I
Speaker 1: know he does a lot of stuff that fans don't
Speaker 1: necessarily see. And the thing that upsets me is when
Speaker 1: people are like, well, he just took his money and disappeared,
Speaker 1: Like that's clearly not true. But you signed a one
Speaker 1: hundred and eight million dollar contract, You're expected multi sack games,
Speaker 1: You're expecting game changing plays every week. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the type of stuff Khalil mac and Aaron Donald do,
Speaker 1: and that's the territory he's in with a deal like that.
Speaker 1: So even though I think he's played well, I would
Speaker 1: say below Amber, I think this is a hard one
Speaker 1: because you do have to look at what he does
Speaker 1: aside from just getting sacked, how he helps the defensive
Speaker 1: line in those other players. But I would probably lean
Speaker 1: more towards Dave's opinion on this, just because you did
Speaker 1: expect the pass rush to be so good at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this year, and he just wasn't regardless of
Speaker 1: him coming off that injury, regardless of Robert Quinn being suspended.
Speaker 1: He didn't have Robert Quinn last year and he was
Speaker 1: still performing at a high level, and this year it
Speaker 1: just it wasn't what you really expected it to be.
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn has helped the pass rush, sorry, he has
Speaker 1: helped the pass rush, but DeMarcus Lawrence, even though he's
Speaker 1: just now picking it up at this point in time,
Speaker 1: when you look at every single game, he hadn't necessarily
Speaker 1: met those expectations that you initially had with him coming
Speaker 1: in with that kind of money and contract. I will
Speaker 1: say this is that was easily his best game of
Speaker 1: the season against the Eagles against a good right tackle
Speaker 1: and Lane Johnson. He was active, He flashed in the
Speaker 1: run and in pass rush, strip sack. That's the guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what got him that contract in the
Speaker 1: first place. He's got a week to rest his shoulder
Speaker 1: and whatever else might be bothering him, so hopefully that's
Speaker 1: the start of a trend. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Robert Quinn at above or below expectations
Speaker 1: definite so far above which I mean you said yesterday
Speaker 1: you said at because you go back to I mean,
Speaker 1: you and I had a big argument, like you thought.
Speaker 1: I guess you thought he was this dude and I
Speaker 1: did not. I know he's been on bad Dolphins teams,
Speaker 1: but you hit thirty. Just in general, unless you play quarterback,
Speaker 1: you kind of expect some sort of drop off. Well,
Speaker 1: he's had a drop off, and everybody in the league
Speaker 1: thought he was. He was at a drop off, you know,
Speaker 1: or you don't get a sixth round pick for him.
Speaker 1: So the Dolphins thought it, the Cowboys thought it. Still
Speaker 1: paid him eight million a year, but he's on pace
Speaker 1: to have about thirteen or fourteen sacks and at six
Speaker 1: week seven, So yeah, I mean, he's up there. So
Speaker 1: i'd be I mean, i'd argue with you that you
Speaker 1: thought that that well what I thought and if you
Speaker 1: remember what I said, what I said was he would
Speaker 1: be he had the ability to be the top pass
Speaker 1: rusher on this team. That was what I said, because
Speaker 1: I said the argument we were having was about DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Larrence and if he continued to hold out, and what
Speaker 1: I said was the Cowboys actually put themselves in a
Speaker 1: great position because if they didn't have DeMarcus Larns to
Speaker 1: start the year. I think they have somebody who's capable
Speaker 1: to be able to come in and Robert Quinn and
Speaker 1: be their top pass rusher and give you what DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Larrens was given you last year. And that's what he's showing.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys to me, if the Cowboys really thought
Speaker 1: he was going to come in and be like this,
Speaker 1: then I think they overpaid for DeMarcus. But I know
Speaker 1: that's another top of DeMarcus is younger, right, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean you pay for youth in this league. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a whole other argument. I mean, you know, if
Speaker 1: Marinell is going to rotate the guys the way he does,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's worth paying one of people really shouldn't be
Speaker 1: paying a guy twenty one million a year. And it's
Speaker 1: great for DeMarcus he earns. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: earns that much money. But I'm just saying, like he
Speaker 1: is one of the best in the league. But in
Speaker 1: this defense, in this scheme, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he's not going to play that much more than
Speaker 1: Kerry Hider, then I don't understand what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: They bumped his numbers last week too, so maybe that'll continue.
Speaker 1: Maybe they kind of realize, like, well, the guy that
Speaker 1: we pay the most is the best and should maybe
Speaker 1: be out there. Maybe he did it because if you remember,
Speaker 1: he had made it that before the game, like that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a problem. Somebody who was asking him
Speaker 1: about him being off the field, and he's like, that
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be a problem. Good, And so I think
Speaker 1: I do wonder if if whether it was initiated by
Speaker 1: him or by the coaches. I think there was somebody
Speaker 1: who made a decision and we got to have him
Speaker 1: on the field. But free. Let me reiterate, if you
Speaker 1: get the DeMarcus learns that played like the Eagle game,
Speaker 1: and that's most of the time. The No, you're not
Speaker 1: over paying for him, but if you if you're getting
Speaker 1: just as much help from the other guys, then it's
Speaker 1: probably not a good fit. Right, You still need him
Speaker 1: to be stud right. I would have said six to
Speaker 1: eight sacks is the realistic range for Robert Quinn, six eight,
Speaker 1: six to eight for Quinn for the whole season. That
Speaker 1: I would have said that sounded realistic and he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's there right now in October. So that's great, and
Speaker 1: d Law is a part of that. He is all
Speaker 1: And that was the beauty of all of this is
Speaker 1: that you now have, in my opinion, you got really
Speaker 1: two great pass rushers on both sides, and so if
Speaker 1: teams are going to decide, as you've noticed, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys have noticed over the last couple of games.
Speaker 1: Now DeMarcus is getting a little less double teams and
Speaker 1: Quinn's getting a few more double teams. And that's the point,
Speaker 1: Like you want teams to have to balance it out,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they may go one side and one sometimes
Speaker 1: times they may go to the other, and you expect
Speaker 1: the guy that has one guy he has to beat
Speaker 1: to win his matchup, and that's really what you want.
Speaker 1: The last time the Cowboys had anything like that was
Speaker 1: probably Greg Ellis and de Marcus ware Right, well, you
Speaker 1: had two legitimate pass rushers on the hither side. And
Speaker 1: the other thing, which we can get to this in
Speaker 1: a minute, but there's you know, the stats came out
Speaker 1: this week that they're both both of them are among
Speaker 1: the league leaders in terms of how often they're double teamed,
Speaker 1: which also says, you sure could use some help from
Speaker 1: your tackles to take the pressure off of those guys.
Speaker 1: You know, before he got here, I didn't know much
Speaker 1: about him. I ain't really watch him play or anything.
Speaker 1: It was just based on everything that I was reading,
Speaker 1: things that I was hearing about him. So I expected
Speaker 1: him to be good and oh, he's gonna be great
Speaker 1: next to the Marcus blah blah blah. We got to
Speaker 1: training camp and what I saw prior to him getting
Speaker 1: injured was not impressive. You saw it was seventy seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I mean it, yes, yes, it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: but it was still not impressive. But it was. It
Speaker 1: was nothing that was getting me excited about. But so
Speaker 1: that's why for me, at least, he definitely exceeded the
Speaker 1: expect patients, because after watching that little bit of training
Speaker 1: kim from him, I was just like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: not that great. So when he came in finally from
Speaker 1: the suspension and showed up what he can do and
Speaker 1: just elevated his game game, elevated his game game after game,
Speaker 1: yeah that was impressive to me. In all fairness, is tyrant.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of guys, he really does The
Speaker 1: great part about it is, and we were talking about
Speaker 1: this during training camp. Great part about it for Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn was he was having to go up against him
Speaker 1: in practice, but he's not gonna face very many weeks
Speaker 1: in the NFL anybody better than him. So if you
Speaker 1: can deal with that and start learning how to deal
Speaker 1: with that, you're going to be even better going up
Speaker 1: against the guys you have to go against every single weekend.
Speaker 1: I just saw him underground more often than I would
Speaker 1: have wanted. But yeah, he's been to Tyrant. He definitely
Speaker 1: is just stood all right, let's take our first break
Speaker 1: when we come back. We're gonna jump into the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle position. Do that when we come back. This is
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Speaker 1: Back to the brink, Welcome back into the second segment
Speaker 1: of the Break Life mis WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start,
Speaker 1: we're talking about expectations. We're talking about the defense and
Speaker 1: what they've done this season. Let's jump to the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle positions. You got guys like Malie Collins and Antoine Woods,
Speaker 1: Christian Covington and of course the rookie Triston Hill. How
Speaker 1: these guys performed above at or below expectation? All below
Speaker 1: for me? Everyone, all four of them, all four of them.
Speaker 1: I thought Christian Covington would do more. I thought Malie
Speaker 1: Collins would be like a stud like he was in
Speaker 1: training camp. He's been pretty good at times, but not
Speaker 1: like we thought. And I thought Triston Hill would play,
Speaker 1: and I thought that Antoine Woods would play more too,
Speaker 1: But he's been hurt. It's not necessarily his fault, but
Speaker 1: I thought we'd get more on all four of them.
Speaker 1: That's for them. I give Antoine an incomplete just because
Speaker 1: he's been hurt. You know, he was out for three
Speaker 1: weeks with a spraying knee. Pretty much agree with Nick
Speaker 1: about everything else. Like MALIEK. Collins is, he's played well.
Speaker 1: If he was just a dude, we would be it
Speaker 1: would be gangbusters. But I mean we talked this guy
Speaker 1: up all through training camp as just an absolute man
Speaker 1: eating monster beast, and he's been good. He hasn't played
Speaker 1: like that right well, and when you're on your last
Speaker 1: year of your contract, you tend to do better, and
Speaker 1: that's not something that he has. He's but he's not
Speaker 1: being impressive. I hate to be on pace guy, but
Speaker 1: he's on pace for like six or seven, you know,
Speaker 1: five six sacks, which is pretty good for a d tackle,
Speaker 1: but just all around his game. You know, he's had
Speaker 1: lapses against the run. Again. You know, they need a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle who can reliably push the pocket to help
Speaker 1: their ends out. I don't think they've had that. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Tristan Hill's not a bust. That's
Speaker 1: way too early to call him that. But pick fifty
Speaker 1: eight should not be a healthy scratch ever, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I would be interested to know, And
Speaker 1: if I catch one of these guys, I might actually
Speaker 1: ask them what the defensive coaches, particularly defensive front coaches,
Speaker 1: think of Malie collins play, because sometimes with a defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: what we see and what we evaluate is very different
Speaker 1: than maybe how they see it, because they know what
Speaker 1: he's being asked to do on every single play. I
Speaker 1: would be interested to know if they think he's actually
Speaker 1: playing better than we do, because maybe there are plays
Speaker 1: where are like, his responsibility here is just to occupy
Speaker 1: a guy. Really, that's his only responsibility, or to turn
Speaker 1: a guy because somebody else should be shooting a guy.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that, but I would be
Speaker 1: interested to see what they would honestly say about his play,
Speaker 1: because I do think at moments he's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: I just don't know about those other moments that I
Speaker 1: think are kind of gray area If that is the case,
Speaker 1: and they and they told you this answer about he's
Speaker 1: actually played great, we haven't asked them to do all
Speaker 1: that stuff, then that's definitely on them. Then they get
Speaker 1: they get a bad grade because what we saw a
Speaker 1: training camp going up against the Zach well, really Zach
Speaker 1: Martin wasn't there at camp, but still going up against
Speaker 1: the offensive line at training camp, he was dominant. He
Speaker 1: was what he was doing wasn't just taking up space.
Speaker 1: He was making plays. So if he's been asked to
Speaker 1: do anything other than that, then that's that would be
Speaker 1: a failure on their part in my opinion. Also, there
Speaker 1: were coaches at training camp who said, I mean and
Speaker 1: there were you know, Byron and Tank didn't practice and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, But coaches were saying, you know, he's
Speaker 1: the best defender at camp. He had the best camp.
Speaker 1: He consistently was dominant and just showed up every night
Speaker 1: when they turned on the tape. He's been good. He
Speaker 1: hasn't played on the level befitting of that type of
Speaker 1: preseason hype. And yeah, maybe he's a victim of his
Speaker 1: own success, but here we are expectations. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if Tyron Crawford's on your list or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you expected more from him. He
Speaker 1: was hurt, but we expected that he would come back
Speaker 1: and he would play, and he would be a guy
Speaker 1: that could play at end and tackle, and they've needed
Speaker 1: him and he obviously hasn't been I mean, did you
Speaker 1: really expect that though? Yeah, I'm epect him to play.
Speaker 1: He was out for so long with that injury, and
Speaker 1: just everything you heard and how you saw him. I mean,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, maybe we should have seen that coming. But
Speaker 1: I was more worried about Tank than Tyrone. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: respect the play. I expected him to play, and I
Speaker 1: mean I didn't. And then obviously when a guy comes
Speaker 1: back from injury, you don't expect him to go back,
Speaker 1: so especially with this you know medical staff, that typically
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. So when he was they were very cautious
Speaker 1: with him. He came back, he did well in the
Speaker 1: first two games, and then all of a sudden, he
Speaker 1: just couldn't play anymore. I think I think he played.
Speaker 1: I think he played three. To answer your great game, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've missed him big time because you're saying all these
Speaker 1: double teams on the outside, who's given the push on
Speaker 1: the inside. When you consider that that he's missed those
Speaker 1: to all those games, Antoine Woods missed a lot of games.
Speaker 1: Do you give any any deference to that when it
Speaker 1: comes to the defensive tackle position, and make you think
Speaker 1: that maybe you'll see if they can get some consistency
Speaker 1: with these four guys staying in the lineup, that they
Speaker 1: can be better here in the second half of the season. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a healthy eight man rotation.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, yeah, you could rotate at times,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that it's a it's a all
Speaker 1: just put another guy in there. I think there's a
Speaker 1: huge drop off, especially there at the tackle position from
Speaker 1: starters to backups, particularly Covington or or Tristan Hill, well
Speaker 1: both really all of them, I mean, because they don't
Speaker 1: give pass rush like Crawford could give you. I mean,
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods is gonna eat up blocks, but he's not
Speaker 1: really getting a lot of rush. Do you expect if
Speaker 1: that's the case, that you could see a guy like
Speaker 1: Hider and maybe they even decide at some point on
Speaker 1: certain downs to push Tank down and have him playing
Speaker 1: at tackle just to get a little more push up
Speaker 1: the middle. He's done that at times. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't like it. I actually I love it when colleges
Speaker 1: do that, Like they'll move guys to you know, basically
Speaker 1: play with four ends. I mean, I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: see it all the time, but like, if you could
Speaker 1: find a way to get Hyder and Tank on the
Speaker 1: field at the same time together instead of rotating them,
Speaker 1: that'd be fine with me. Maybe like a Nickel situation.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think that a Dorance Armstrong lests say,
Speaker 1: is giving you a little something, and you want to
Speaker 1: put him at defensive end in passing in rush downs
Speaker 1: and him slide Tank down and and maybe have Hyder
Speaker 1: at the other tackle. Now you got four guys that
Speaker 1: can get after the passer on a rushing down, on
Speaker 1: a passing down. Weel like you might be able to
Speaker 1: really get some push at all four of those positions. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't like that because I don't like, you don't
Speaker 1: have an elite player anywhere, because you're you're calling an
Speaker 1: elite pass rusher now just a tackle and I don't like.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I think you're paying him to
Speaker 1: be an elite rusher. I would rather just give me
Speaker 1: the best tackle I can have as opposed to Armstrong
Speaker 1: at the edge. But don't the best pass rushers in
Speaker 1: this league do that? Like you look at the way
Speaker 1: that they use a you know, um, Aaron Donald, the
Speaker 1: way they use Khalil mac Like, Oh, they'll move those
Speaker 1: guys around and put them in different spots in order
Speaker 1: to take advantage of particular matchups. Right, And you don't
Speaker 1: think he's that ye be paid like that? Oh, but
Speaker 1: you've just been saying. If you're gonna pay him like that,
Speaker 1: you gotta go at least but make him an elite
Speaker 1: rusher though I don't think he's capable. I think I
Speaker 1: think you put him over a garden center where they
Speaker 1: can get double teams. I don't think DeMarcus is that
Speaker 1: type of player. I think he needs to be on
Speaker 1: the edge. That's where he he's good at. I don't
Speaker 1: think he is the dynamic. I don't think he's on
Speaker 1: the cover of Madden type of player. I don't that's
Speaker 1: I think he's a great pass rusher, but I don't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just put him on the inside to go.
Speaker 1: He's that much better than a center in a guard
Speaker 1: I think they can they can neutralize him in them
Speaker 1: in the center. They well, they're neutralizing him on the outside,
Speaker 1: So move them around. Make it at least make it
Speaker 1: to where something they have to adjust to, right, and
Speaker 1: the something they gotta think about. Maybe they miss something
Speaker 1: in doing so. Maybe I'll take the cop out answer
Speaker 1: and just say it doesn't sound like something coaching stamon mean,
Speaker 1: is it fun? Yes, then they probably won't do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I was gonna say. I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say that it's crazy when you remember how much we
Speaker 1: talked about in praise about this team having so much
Speaker 1: depth everywhere on the team basically except for like maybe
Speaker 1: one position, but other than that, they had all these
Speaker 1: great death and all these young guys are looking so great,
Speaker 1: so much potential, and then all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: doesn't reflect on what they really have on to feel,
Speaker 1: aside from those veteran guys when they are producing, the
Speaker 1: backup guys are not mirror their level at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I do wonder if this defense, as time goes on,
Speaker 1: as guys are more healthy, as they've played a little
Speaker 1: bit more together, if this defense will get better, because
Speaker 1: I just don't have a hard time believing what they
Speaker 1: put up last year was just a farce. I think
Speaker 1: that I think they can get back to that. I
Speaker 1: just don't know what they got to do to get
Speaker 1: back to that. And we'll see over the second half
Speaker 1: of the year if they really can't find what they
Speaker 1: were last year. Let's move on to the linebacker position.
Speaker 1: You got Jalen Smith, Layton vander esh Shaan Lee, Joe Thomas.
Speaker 1: Where have those guys performed according to expectations below all
Speaker 1: across the board? No, well, Sean Lee and Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: have been great. I mean, Joe Thomas started rotating in
Speaker 1: you know and getting starter type snaps as quickly as
Speaker 1: like week two, and Sean Lee played great the other nights.
Speaker 1: He's made good use of his snaps. But what are
Speaker 1: we really saying, like the first round pick and the
Speaker 1: facto first round pick just got an extension, the wolf hunter,
Speaker 1: the predator whatever, all that good stuff, like not enough
Speaker 1: howling and not enough swiping. They were supposed to be
Speaker 1: and they still could be. They still could be. But
Speaker 1: like the narrative is that they are the two young
Speaker 1: studs that are going to shape this defense for the
Speaker 1: foreseeable future, and it hasn't been that. It just hasn't again,
Speaker 1: you know, just like I said with Tank just now,
Speaker 1: though like they played their best, their most recent game
Speaker 1: was their best game. Layton was playing great before he
Speaker 1: got hurt. Doesn't sound like his injuries going to sideline
Speaker 1: for too long. I thought Jalen was outstanding against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I tweeted it out before the show. You know, he
Speaker 1: had to play in pass coverage early on in that game.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm the one I'm talking about. If
Speaker 1: you watch it on ALL twenty two, it's even more
Speaker 1: impressive because he carries the running back to the opposite
Speaker 1: side of the field, diagnoses what's going on, races back
Speaker 1: to the middle, and just drapes himself. I think it's
Speaker 1: arts and he just breaks and I mean cleanly, no
Speaker 1: penalty breaks it up. Fantastic stuff. That's what got them
Speaker 1: the reputations that they have. They're athletic enough to do
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. They just haven't been doing it
Speaker 1: consistently the first seven weeks. Yeah. I thought one thing
Speaker 1: that was interesting to me in the Eagles game, and
Speaker 1: I think it was probably a function of Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: being out, but they stayed in their base defense a lot,
Speaker 1: even when early in the game when the Eagles were
Speaker 1: going three wide, they still stay in their base defense
Speaker 1: and had all three of those linebackers on the field,
Speaker 1: which forced the linebackers into coverage probably a lot more
Speaker 1: than they would normally be and I thought they handled
Speaker 1: extremely well. But again that may have just been a
Speaker 1: function of Anthony Brown being out and they felt like
Speaker 1: with Anthony out they needed to not go to Nickel
Speaker 1: as often as they may normally do that. But I
Speaker 1: thought it was they worked for them in this game.
Speaker 1: I just think that overall though, yeah, it worked, but
Speaker 1: I think that we expected more plays from that position,
Speaker 1: and you know, those catalytic type of plays and new
Speaker 1: contract or not. It doesn't really matter about about the
Speaker 1: new contract. I mean, I don't know fans are expecting that.
Speaker 1: But still even before that, I think we would have
Speaker 1: thought that they would have taken that next step as
Speaker 1: those linebacking doo and it really hasn't happened. They haven't
Speaker 1: been terrible, but they haven't been as they haven't taken
Speaker 1: the step that we thought they would. But I will
Speaker 1: say this, it doesn't concern me in the long run,
Speaker 1: and I don't say this to too my own horn,
Speaker 1: but like you can go back and find podcasts and
Speaker 1: stories where like this is at least something that we
Speaker 1: speculated about, Like sophomore slums happened everybody. It's not just
Speaker 1: a quarterback thing. You give offensive coordinators a year of
Speaker 1: film to figure out what you don't do well, like whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, people have talked about Jalen's movement and I
Speaker 1: think he's fine, but like you can pinpoint things that
Speaker 1: he doesn't do well, like handling receivers in space. It's
Speaker 1: been a problem for him this year, and you know,
Speaker 1: you design concepts like that to take advantage of what
Speaker 1: he doesn't do well. Couple with you know, maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to call it false confidence,
Speaker 1: but you know, howling and swiping, that's a big part
Speaker 1: of their persona. Maybe maybe got a little ahead of
Speaker 1: themselves in terms of where they actually are as players
Speaker 1: because they're still both so young. But I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't worry about them in the long run because
Speaker 1: they have the athleticism and the mental makeup to be great.
Speaker 1: So I view it more as a stumbling block than like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, or the linebackers actually bad. No, it's
Speaker 1: just growing pains that go along with this and the
Speaker 1: coaching aspect of it. It's a good point because you
Speaker 1: look at what the Cowboys were able to do offensively
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen and how successful they were, and then
Speaker 1: the next year you saw a drop off and notice
Speaker 1: how other teams were able to attack them and adjust
Speaker 1: to that. So maybe same thing applies here when it
Speaker 1: comes to the defense. Very rarely does anybody's development just
Speaker 1: go in a straight line ever, Like it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: So there's gonna be ups and downs along the way.
Speaker 1: I think I think they're fine. They've shown they've had moments.
Speaker 1: They both played great against the Eagles. Hopefully again that's
Speaker 1: a trend moving up. All right, we're gonna take our
Speaker 1: final break, come back, we'll hit the secondary, and then
Speaker 1: Amber has a game for us. We'll do a little
Speaker 1: and see. Oh no, we'll do that when we come
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Speaker 1: jump right back in. Let's get to the secondary. Got
Speaker 1: cornerback position Byron Jones Cheetobeyo Woozier and then you got
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown Jordan Lewis. What do you think of the
Speaker 1: cornerback position? I think, um, Byron Jones as pretty match
Speaker 1: met expectations. Um, maybe even exceeded him winning because he
Speaker 1: was banged up. But he's played like I thought he would,
Speaker 1: not getting interceptions, but not giving up a lot of
Speaker 1: big plays. That's kind of wey did last year. And
Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. Um, I'll say met expectations for him.
Speaker 1: Let you guys handle the rest. I agree, you take
Speaker 1: the easy one. I agree met for buying. I mean
Speaker 1: it's honestly, it's kind of impressive. He has been as
Speaker 1: good as he has without a training camp basically, and
Speaker 1: I mean he doesn't get he doesn't get picks, but
Speaker 1: he never has so cheeto below what we saw at
Speaker 1: training camp. But maybe that's our fault for buying buying
Speaker 1: the hype to my I mean, well, but even at that,
Speaker 1: I still think that I don't think he's just training camp.
Speaker 1: I think even if you compare his play this year
Speaker 1: to last year, I think he's probably below the expectations
Speaker 1: you would have had coming off of last year, right
Speaker 1: you think. I think so. I think he's right there
Speaker 1: and honestly think he's about the same as he was,
Speaker 1: Like it looks very similar. Like defenses pick on him
Speaker 1: because they don't want to mess with Byron. He gives,
Speaker 1: he gets, he gets more than he gives, Like he
Speaker 1: gives up plays more than he makes him But his coverage,
Speaker 1: I'd say it all the time, like people get mad
Speaker 1: at mean, like his coverage is always good. It always
Speaker 1: seems like the throw is right where it needs to be,
Speaker 1: Like it's not like he's the most unlucky corner. I
Speaker 1: will show you. I will show you a guy that's
Speaker 1: a step and a half off coverage, you know, like
Speaker 1: I'll show you a guy that's beat, Like he's never beat,
Speaker 1: he just doesn't make the play. I wish you know.
Speaker 1: I've never coached or played dB in my life, but
Speaker 1: like look back for the ball man, I just that
Speaker 1: inn't that that's pretty normal dB one oh one it's
Speaker 1: not because he runs twenty five miles an hour. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean his athleticism bails him out in a lot
Speaker 1: of those situations. He's a hard a guy to get
Speaker 1: away from, but his coverage is usually good. He doesn't
Speaker 1: play the ball very well, he just doesn't. But he's
Speaker 1: he's made He's made some plays. I mean he had
Speaker 1: to pick in New Orleans. Nobody in the world wants
Speaker 1: to give him credit for that play against DeVante Parker.
Speaker 1: I think it was Parker. I mean like he raked
Speaker 1: that ball out of his hand, he was beaten, came back,
Speaker 1: broke up the touchdown, but it seemed like people like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the guy dropped it and he was
Speaker 1: beating I don't think so. Um still probably like just again,
Speaker 1: he's a victim of his own success at training camp,
Speaker 1: like he I think he looks exactly the same as
Speaker 1: he did last year, but he looked so much better
Speaker 1: at camp and it hasn't translated. So I would probably
Speaker 1: say below Anthony Brown kind of is what he always
Speaker 1: has been because I think him and Jordan would be
Speaker 1: at expectations for me. Yeah, and I you know, and
Speaker 1: I can hear people saying it. I hope. You know,
Speaker 1: I hope we see some more playing time for Jordan
Speaker 1: as we go amber If you agree, I'm asking, if
Speaker 1: you agree that Byron Jones is at expectations, do you
Speaker 1: think it's enough for you to be willing to give
Speaker 1: him a big contract this offseason? Well, with everyone that
Speaker 1: all these names, I would say they're right where I
Speaker 1: thought there would be, with the exception of Byron, just
Speaker 1: because of the kind of he was coming from and
Speaker 1: the fact that he was able to be ready for
Speaker 1: Week one that was impressive. But as far as contract goes,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I would want him to stay here.
Speaker 1: But you know, don't ask me about money and contracts
Speaker 1: because that's just a whole mess. How they figure out
Speaker 1: where to divide their money and all that. Dave would
Speaker 1: probably have a better answer for when it comes to
Speaker 1: the cap money and blah blah blahy If for me,
Speaker 1: if it was my choice, I would keep him keeping
Speaker 1: whatever it takes keep him. I don't know about whatever
Speaker 1: it takes. Let me know how much? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for a fair price. Yes, I need the front office
Speaker 1: to get these deals done with Dak and Amari because
Speaker 1: I want a franchise. Byron Jones. That's what I would do.
Speaker 1: That's what I would do. How much My question would
Speaker 1: be how much is how much is it going to
Speaker 1: cost you? And I usually like to reserve the franchise
Speaker 1: tech for guys that I'm not quite certain who they are.
Speaker 1: I think they might be good, but I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to rent them for a year out of
Speaker 1: the question. No, that's like Dak would be. Dak would
Speaker 1: be an example of that kind of guy. If you're
Speaker 1: just if you get through this year, you're still like,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure if he's that guy yet, So
Speaker 1: I want one more year to rent him, even if
Speaker 1: I'm renting him at a premium, I'd rather rent one
Speaker 1: more year just to see before I have to commit.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I think that a Byron. I
Speaker 1: think Byron is Byron, like either either he's enough for
Speaker 1: you there or he's not exactly he is what he is.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm franchising him, which I just looked it up.
Speaker 1: It would cost you thirteen million to do that. I
Speaker 1: think I have to hold my franchise for a Cooper.
Speaker 1: No and that Well, so you say Cooper is the one,
Speaker 1: you'd use him if you don't have it, what's your
Speaker 1: first round pick? Lets you invest it all this in him.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, I'm absolutely losing using the tag on
Speaker 1: Cooper or Dak if they are unsigned. That's why they
Speaker 1: need to get these deals done before it happens, so
Speaker 1: you have it to use on Byron. My thing, I
Speaker 1: think the world of Byron. He's a good dude. He's
Speaker 1: great in coverage, He's an awesome player. He deserves to
Speaker 1: get paid. I don't want to get of that kind
Speaker 1: of money to a cornerback that doesn't get takeaways. Like
Speaker 1: that's why that's valuable, you know what I mean? Why
Speaker 1: not just go back to the because I need a
Speaker 1: badass corner to be on the field for me while
Speaker 1: I'm drafting more. Because Cheeto and Jordan are in a
Speaker 1: contract year. Next year, Anthony Brown is likely gone, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we don't know, but he's a free agent as well.
Speaker 1: So if you just let nobody else, if you basically
Speaker 1: he's your bridge, he's your bridge plays that you get
Speaker 1: to that guy. I franchise tag him with the intention
Speaker 1: of drafting more cornerbacks, and so you got Cheeto and
Speaker 1: Byron for another season. Next year, you can let Byron
Speaker 1: go when his tag expires, and by then you'll have
Speaker 1: more young corners against help you. And that sounds bad.
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds mean because I'm basically like, I'm
Speaker 1: using Byron for one more year. But if I'm going
Speaker 1: to pay that much money, it's you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like the d law thing, like if you're gonna
Speaker 1: pay that much to a pass rusher, he better be
Speaker 1: doing stuff like Khalil Mack and giving you short fields
Speaker 1: and stripping quarterbacks. And if I'm paying that much to
Speaker 1: a cornerback, good coverage isn't good enough for me. Gilmore
Speaker 1: and those guys they're making picks need I need picks.
Speaker 1: I need picks six. But I keep wanting to hold
Speaker 1: on to him just because, like, the Cowboys haven't really
Speaker 1: had good corners and they've struggled at that position. And
Speaker 1: it's until now that they finally have started to have
Speaker 1: somewhat of success at the position. So when you talk
Speaker 1: about Byron and letting him go in that aspect, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And then you see all these other guys
Speaker 1: that we didn't expect the Cowboys to sign and they did.
Speaker 1: You got Lyle Collins Jalen. They both signed. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they've called and said you want again. We learned that
Speaker 1: less in the hard way. Like I mean, maybe Byron
Speaker 1: would agree to a deal that would work for everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't ye he is. He is. He's not forgotten
Speaker 1: by us because we talk about everything, but like just
Speaker 1: in terms of like I don't remember the last time
Speaker 1: Byron was asked about it, Like he's not. You know,
Speaker 1: Cooper and Dak get asked about this stuff every day,
Speaker 1: even Jalen did to a degree, you know, he was
Speaker 1: like whenever Jerry's ready to write the check, like he
Speaker 1: would be asked about it if he stood in front
Speaker 1: of his locker and every week, like he doesn't do that,
Speaker 1: Byron has. He seems to be making an effort to
Speaker 1: not be in the limelight. Absolutely, um, But so he's
Speaker 1: just sort of he's interesting. Yeah, does that shock you
Speaker 1: at all? Not really, because he's never been that guy
Speaker 1: like he's he's an understated quiet and then on top
Speaker 1: of that, like you know, he probably he knows that
Speaker 1: there's some uncertainty with his but I would say he
Speaker 1: is a leader type guy. And that's where it does
Speaker 1: shock me a little bit. I think he's a type
Speaker 1: of guy that understands the importance of of leadership, and
Speaker 1: I don't I would think that you don't see that all.
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1: There's some people that are leaders, there's some that aren't.
Speaker 1: I just don't see that necessarily out of him. Maybe
Speaker 1: a guy that goes and works out all the time
Speaker 1: and athletically and all that, but not his job. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying a raw rock guy. I'm saying a leader.
Speaker 1: Somebody understands the importance of the other guys in the
Speaker 1: room looking to you to at the example. And that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily Rara. That's saying, here's what we need to
Speaker 1: do as professionals. I think he's a very professional guy. Sure,
Speaker 1: so if he's a very professional guy and he understands
Speaker 1: the importance of leadership, then to me, he would be
Speaker 1: that guy that's setting the example for those other young cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: I mean, not to get in the weeds with like
Speaker 1: how the media is, but like if people were clamoring
Speaker 1: to talk to him, like where's Byron he's not talking,
Speaker 1: he would do it. Yeah, he just there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of demand for it, which is kind of interesting
Speaker 1: because he's an all pro cornerback. But you just they're
Speaker 1: just aren't a ton of people clamoring to talk to
Speaker 1: Byron Show. I noticed you guys. I'm sure you guys
Speaker 1: have noticed how much how much easier that is with
Speaker 1: Zeke this year, win or lose, he's the first person
Speaker 1: in the locker room that steps up to say I'm
Speaker 1: ready to talk. I think Nick would tell you that's
Speaker 1: been a thing for years. I was shocked when he
Speaker 1: when the whole thing was happening in seventeen with the
Speaker 1: you're suspended but now you're not and all this stuff
Speaker 1: Kansas City game comes to mind, stands right up there
Speaker 1: and talks through all of it. He's been that's amazing part.
Speaker 1: I just I think this would see it. To me,
Speaker 1: it seems like to me like he is, like we
Speaker 1: walk in the locker room. Zeke is daring, ready, like
Speaker 1: same he like he deservedly people knock his maturity for
Speaker 1: the off field problems he's had, but like in terms
Speaker 1: of professionalism, he's right up there with the best of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, they lost to the New York Jets, and
Speaker 1: you know, Taylor and Brad Sham do the Cowboys Hour
Speaker 1: on Monday night, like and he showed up, showed up
Speaker 1: and he you know, he did the interview. He was
Speaker 1: nice and gracious, like he's professional. He doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 1: get credit for it all the time. Sometimes going to
Speaker 1: those professionals colleges that that these guys go to helps.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really spend a little time making those
Speaker 1: guys are all that kind of stuff. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that it doesn't, but I mean these sec guys in
Speaker 1: Ohio State that they're just living in front of the
Speaker 1: cameras all the time, and you kind of get it.
Speaker 1: You're the star and that's pro. I mean, it really
Speaker 1: is pro football, just at a college level, right, I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, real quick, Xavier Woods and Jeff Blood the
Speaker 1: safety have been below I would say I would Jeff Heith,
Speaker 1: I would say, like, you know what he is and
Speaker 1: he's he's been at yeah, but well at but like
Speaker 1: that the play against the Jets just sticks in my cross,
Speaker 1: like who he like, it's that's Jeffith. Though it hasn't
Speaker 1: two yard to give up to That's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: it's so out of character for their whole buddy. But
Speaker 1: he has had moments when he has big plays were
Speaker 1: given up because he didn't have the right angle, because
Speaker 1: he didn't get to the right happen against the Lions
Speaker 1: last year. And so that's my point is, like Jeff
Speaker 1: will make plays for you, because we've seen the obvious career.
Speaker 1: He's probably one of them guys on this defensive actually
Speaker 1: will make a play. But he also will give up
Speaker 1: a play. Well, he's actually given up plays to too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to defend him, but used
Speaker 1: to the place people think about it of the Hall
Speaker 1: of famers like Adrian Peterson into the end zone and
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson over him, and maybe Jimmy Graham if he's
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer off, yeah, golf on the outside man, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: But Robbie Anderson. It's not even going to the Jets
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. And they put everybody I don't know
Speaker 1: about that Jets. They have their bars a little lower
Speaker 1: at these. I'll contradict myself again because everybody know, like
Speaker 1: I year lead for Jeff Heath all the time. I
Speaker 1: think he gets hated on more than he deserves. Great story,
Speaker 1: Saginaw State, all that good stuff. Um do you see
Speaker 1: his goat play though? Against Derek Carr. He did it again.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, yeah, Derek did the same, same exact play.
Speaker 1: I was like, learn, but I you know, and all
Speaker 1: that stuff is true for me. And like Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: is what he is. He's better than he than a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to give him credit for. But
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have deferred from upgrading that position for several years,
Speaker 1: which means that he should play at a level where
Speaker 1: that's justified. And when you're giving up ninety two yard
Speaker 1: touchdowns to Robbie Anderson, it's just not a good look.
Speaker 1: I get it. I just again, this all bad expectations.
Speaker 1: My expectations for him this year were what he's been,
Speaker 1: and that to me fits with what he's. He's he's
Speaker 1: the you know, he'll pop the receiver and set up
Speaker 1: Cheetoh for an interception, and he'll also give up a
Speaker 1: long game because he because the angle wasn't great, Like
Speaker 1: it kind of is who it is, you know, Chris
Speaker 1: ra shar he has taught about the safety position kind
Speaker 1: of made it seem like, oh, he can do without
Speaker 1: having another player, you know, he can work with these
Speaker 1: guys and take it to another level. And it hasn't happened,
Speaker 1: and I was a believer going into this year's draft.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well maybe, I mean it's Chris Roushard.
Speaker 1: We've seen him what he can do. Maybe he can
Speaker 1: take this safety position to another level. And it hasn't happened.
Speaker 1: And that's disappointed, honestly, And it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of questions as this goes on when you look at
Speaker 1: Triston Hill and how he develops. So I could have
Speaker 1: gone to safety, and what we heard was there's a
Speaker 1: very impassionate plea from Chris Rashard that hey, I got
Speaker 1: what I needed safety. We're good, right, Triston Hill is
Speaker 1: not a bust. But Juan Thornhill would not be inactive
Speaker 1: for this team. He just wouldn't be. And that's where
Speaker 1: this is going to get interesting over the next few
Speaker 1: years to see how those two guys careers develop, because
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a lot about whether that's the right
Speaker 1: decision or not. All Right, we appreciate you guys join us.
Speaker 1: We are back next week. Amber's gonna save her game
Speaker 1: until next two Tuesday. We'll get to that on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We're off Monday, too, aren't we. We're not doing shows
Speaker 1: on Monday, so I love doing the show. Next week
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be okay, all right, So then we appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys joining us for Nick, even Dave helm and Amercarcia.
Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eaglan. This has been The Break live on
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