WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Expected More? 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:18.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:22.120 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:26.480 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:31.840 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:38.120 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.960 It is Wednesay, October twenty third, twenty nineteen, season fifteen, 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.599 in episode number seventy. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:48.479 The Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.200 At the start, it is our final show of the week. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.000 There will not be a Break tomorrow or Friday or Monday. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.200 There will be a joint show though tomorrow, so you 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.160 guys stay tuned for that. Actually, it's gonna be really excited. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.520 It's really exciting. I'm looking forward to hearing that Nick 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:06.160 will be on with Brian and Jesse and Nate and 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.959 Shannon's gonna host it. So there's gonna be a ton 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.480 of opinions. Sometimes they have enough powder keg. Yeah, I 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.360 don't know if they have enough microphones to go around 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.920 for those guys, but it will be interesting listening. So 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.520 makes you check that out. Today, though, before we get 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:21.480 out of here for the week, we're gonna talk a 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.199 little bit about expectations. Yesterday we talked about the offense. 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.240 We went down through the entire offensive roster of the 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.080 guys at play and gave you our opinions as far 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.360 as where we expected them to be and where they 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.240 are after seven weeks into the season. We'll do the 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.520 exact same thing today on the defensive side of the ball, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.319 and uh and just kind of get this whole thing rolling. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:40.920 One thing I didn't get to yesterday, I want to 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.560 ask real quick before we get into the defense, was just, 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:48.240 overall for the offense, where do you guys think they are? 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:55.800 Are they at expectations, above expectations or below expectations? Nice 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.240 little debt. I don't know everybody's thinking. I don't know 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.680 how to I know how to answer that, because like this, 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.960 this team should be better than four and three. Okay, 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:05.640 take me, let's let's tip. Let's break you down a 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:10.600 little bit. Take me back to m August August. What 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.280 did you think this offense would be? Running, passing? What 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.680 did you think this offense would be? That's I guess 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.560 that's that's why. I struggle to answer, because, like, just 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.600 if you're looking at it statistically, I would say it's 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.359 either at or above, Like Dak is playing great, that 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.639 the passing is there, Gallup has taken a step, Witten 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.360 has been what you thought he'd be, Cooper's on his grind. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.360 They're scoring a lot of points for the most part, 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:39.680 with the one exception being New Orleans, and you're seeing 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.880 the elements from Kellen Moore that we thought we would 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.160 see at least to a degree, maybe not as much 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.480 as we'd prefer, but it is there. But they're four 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.639 and three, So I would say I would probably say 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.440 at I guess I would say that as well. They 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.840 lost a couple of games already this year their offense 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.240 and they haven't really won any like shootout game games 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.200 where they had to have the offense like that, So 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:09.079 I would say probably at the expectations, it's just been 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.440 so inconsistent. You know, you've seen them having great games 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.840 and then you've seen others that it's like, what the 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.919 heck are you doing now? I'll say this, I definitely 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:23.000 was one that did not truly believe on Kellen Moore 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.639 and what he could do. I think he somewhat exceeded 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.960 my expectation in that aspect, because I expected to come 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.679 in here and just see the same things over and over, 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.400 at least during training camp. In those first games and 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.560 even in the preseason, we saw new elements. We saw 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.200 him trying new things and just being more fun in 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:48.840 a way, you know, less predictable. Although people can argue 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.320 that in these past games, oh, they've gone back to 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.960 being predictable and all that. But at the beginning of 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:58.080 the season that's where I think he impressed me in 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.320 that aspect. Now it just kind of disappear all of 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.320 a sudden, but I still have hope that they can 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.560 build on from this Eagles game and keep that moving forward. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.360 They've only stunk once in seven games, right, I mean, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.080 it hasn't always been perfect again, But again, like offensively, 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.600 that's no the offense, that's what we're talking. You know. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.040 The one thing I will point out is I think 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.080 you can say in spurts and games, because there were 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.000 certainly spurts are periods of the Jets and the Packers 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.880 game with the offense was really not good. So they 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.239 kind of got it together at some point, it wasn't 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.760 enough and at a soon enough time where they still 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.320 could win the game. But I would say, if you 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.360 look at it from that standpoint, I would probably say 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.800 they've probably had eight quarters or probably even less than 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.680 that more. Yeah, probably an eight quarters seven eight quarters 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.240 of bad offense this season? Would you guys agree with that? 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.800 And Dolphins was one of two of them? So we'll say, 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:54.680 so if you want to say the Dolphins, I was 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:59.400 actually thinking too, from from Packers and UH and Jets 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.160 and then pretty much they the offense really didn't do 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.960 its job against New Orleans. So all right, we'll just 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.800 say ten and ten quarters they've played to how many 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.400 twenty eight? Yeah, so that's a third of the time. 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:15.039 So maybe it's below expectations. Well, but here's a third 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.960 of the time. But here's the deal. And this is 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.440 where I maybe for me at least I look at 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.880 it and say they're at expectations, is because I didn't 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.400 think coming into the season they would be m you 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.200 gave me the best offensively. I didn't think they would 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.919 be the Saints with Breeze. I didn't think they'd be 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.400 one of those offenses. I thought they'd be good. I 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.680 didn't think they'd be great. And maybe this is what 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.320 good is and not great. Well, the ranked first in 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.320 the league in offense, so no one expected that, so 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.440 it's hard to kind of say that it's even at expectations. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.719 But it's a tricky question to answer it really is. 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.200 I would I would say at good year four and three, yea, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.920 that number one offense hasn't really helped you as much 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:54.720 as you would think it would. And really they were 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.880 so good offensively in the four wins that that's what 0:05:58.120 --> 0:05:59.760 jade's those numbers when you say they're number one in 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.560 the leagu Well, in those four games that they won, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.240 the offense was perfect. I mean they were really really good. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.839 And in the other three games, and really just in 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.000 one of them, like you said, they were really really 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.880 good Packer game just took it out. They wouldn't be 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.640 first in the league. So that's why numbers are jaded, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.719 because they have all these stats and yards and all that. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.920 But I guess to that point, and yeah, they've had 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.960 their struggles. They started slow, but like against New York, 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.320 I mean Green Bay speaks for itself. They had like 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.080 five hundred yards of offense in that game, but they 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.200 put up four hundred against the Jets in a game 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.960 that we would all agree they weren't good in so 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.280 even when they're struggling, it's light years better than it 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.640 was in the first half of last season. So and 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.760 nobody gets I'm not going to praise anybody too much 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.559 at four and three with the loss of the Jets, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.440 but I'll give them at expectation. All right, let's move on. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.560 Let's go on. Enough flip to the defense. Let's go 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.000 through these names. We got to start with what I 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.240 think is the leader of this defense? To Marcus Lawrence, 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:59.320 has he been above at or below expectations? At expectations? Okay? 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:00.880 For me, I was not what I thought you were 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.200 gonna say, But okay, he's been at expectations. He's been. 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.960 Really he's been a really good player. He's been very active. 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.520 And how many sacks does he have? Three and a half? 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:16.040 Maybe four? He's been He's I mean, I expected him 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.920 to go out and get a lot of attention and 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.200 do well, and I expect the guys around him to 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.800 benefit from it. For me, he's at expectations. Allow me 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:30.080 to contradict myself because I and I'm gonna keep defending him. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:35.400 I really do think he's played well below expectation. One 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.720 hundred and eight million dollar contract that comes with pretty 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.200 ridiculous expectations, and like maybe you could say you're never 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.520 going to meet those, but that comes with the territory. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.600 Like when you get that kind of deal, that's what 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.040 people expect. And I know he gets double teamed. I 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.120 know he does a lot of stuff that fans don't 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.240 necessarily see. And the thing that upsets me is when 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.360 people are like, well, he just took his money and disappeared, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.480 Like that's clearly not true. But you signed a one 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.280 hundred and eight million dollar contract, You're expected multi sack games, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.280 You're expecting game changing plays every week. I mean, that's 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:09.200 the type of stuff Khalil mac and Aaron Donald do, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.160 and that's the territory he's in with a deal like that. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.600 So even though I think he's played well, I would 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.440 say below Amber, I think this is a hard one 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.000 because you do have to look at what he does 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.240 aside from just getting sacked, how he helps the defensive 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.200 line in those other players. But I would probably lean 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:31.760 more towards Dave's opinion on this, just because you did 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.920 expect the pass rush to be so good at the 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.080 beginning of this year, and he just wasn't regardless of 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:42.479 him coming off that injury, regardless of Robert Quinn being suspended. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.880 He didn't have Robert Quinn last year and he was 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.880 still performing at a high level, and this year it 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.400 just it wasn't what you really expected it to be. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:58.679 Robert Quinn has helped the pass rush, sorry, he has 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.560 helped the pass rush, but DeMarcus Lawrence, even though he's 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.120 just now picking it up at this point in time, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.280 when you look at every single game, he hadn't necessarily 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.800 met those expectations that you initially had with him coming 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.200 in with that kind of money and contract. I will 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.720 say this is that was easily his best game of 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.760 the season against the Eagles against a good right tackle 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.400 and Lane Johnson. He was active, He flashed in the 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:31.640 run and in pass rush, strip sack. That's the guy. 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.840 I mean, that's what got him that contract in the 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.439 first place. He's got a week to rest his shoulder 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.000 and whatever else might be bothering him, so hopefully that's 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.080 the start of a trend. All right, let's move on. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.880 Let's talk about Robert Quinn at above or below expectations 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.240 definite so far above which I mean you said yesterday 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.200 you said at because you go back to I mean, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.400 you and I had a big argument, like you thought. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.240 I guess you thought he was this dude and I 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.640 did not. I know he's been on bad Dolphins teams, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:02.680 but you hit thirty. Just in general, unless you play quarterback, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.440 you kind of expect some sort of drop off. Well, 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.160 he's had a drop off, and everybody in the league 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.440 thought he was. He was at a drop off, you know, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.679 or you don't get a sixth round pick for him. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.400 So the Dolphins thought it, the Cowboys thought it. Still 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.720 paid him eight million a year, but he's on pace 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:21.800 to have about thirteen or fourteen sacks and at six 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.240 week seven, So yeah, I mean, he's up there. So 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.000 i'd be I mean, i'd argue with you that you 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.440 thought that that well what I thought and if you 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.760 remember what I said, what I said was he would 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.720 be he had the ability to be the top pass 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.480 rusher on this team. That was what I said, because 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.200 I said the argument we were having was about DeMarcus 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.040 Larrence and if he continued to hold out, and what 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.160 I said was the Cowboys actually put themselves in a 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.520 great position because if they didn't have DeMarcus Larns to 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:47.920 start the year. I think they have somebody who's capable 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.720 to be able to come in and Robert Quinn and 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.840 be their top pass rusher and give you what DeMarcus 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.720 Larrens was given you last year. And that's what he's showing. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.079 If the Cowboys to me, if the Cowboys really thought 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:59.520 he was going to come in and be like this, 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.240 then I think they overpaid for DeMarcus. But I know 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.000 that's another top of DeMarcus is younger, right, Yeah, but 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.520 I mean you pay for youth in this league. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.520 that's a whole other argument. I mean, you know, if 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.720 Marinell is going to rotate the guys the way he does, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.160 I don't know. If I don't know, I don't know 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:18.600 if he's worth paying one of people really shouldn't be 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.320 paying a guy twenty one million a year. And it's 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.400 great for DeMarcus he earns. I don't know if he 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.400 earns that much money. But I'm just saying, like he 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:28.200 is one of the best in the league. But in 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.920 this defense, in this scheme, I don't know. I mean, 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.360 if he's not going to play that much more than 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.160 Kerry Hider, then I don't understand what are we doing here? 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.200 They bumped his numbers last week too, so maybe that'll continue. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.760 Maybe they kind of realize, like, well, the guy that 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.760 we pay the most is the best and should maybe 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.000 be out there. Maybe he did it because if you remember, 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:47.640 he had made it that before the game, like that 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.240 he's gonna be a problem. Somebody who was asking him 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:50.960 about him being off the field, and he's like, that 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.679 ain't gonna be a problem. Good, And so I think 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.360 I do wonder if if whether it was initiated by 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.440 him or by the coaches. I think there was somebody 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.160 who made a decision and we got to have him 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.440 on the field. But free. Let me reiterate, if you 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.800 get the DeMarcus learns that played like the Eagle game, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:05.960 and that's most of the time. The No, you're not 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.280 over paying for him, but if you if you're getting 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.439 just as much help from the other guys, then it's 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.360 probably not a good fit. Right, You still need him 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.440 to be stud right. I would have said six to 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.960 eight sacks is the realistic range for Robert Quinn, six eight, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.400 six to eight for Quinn for the whole season. That 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.280 I would have said that sounded realistic and he's I mean, 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.960 he's there right now in October. So that's great, and 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.400 d Law is a part of that. He is all 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.120 And that was the beauty of all of this is 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.560 that you now have, in my opinion, you got really 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.679 two great pass rushers on both sides, and so if 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.920 teams are going to decide, as you've noticed, I'm sure 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.559 you guys have noticed over the last couple of games. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.800 Now DeMarcus is getting a little less double teams and 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.600 Quinn's getting a few more double teams. And that's the point, 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.600 Like you want teams to have to balance it out, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.560 and sometimes they may go one side and one sometimes 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:55.920 times they may go to the other, and you expect 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.960 the guy that has one guy he has to beat 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.240 to win his matchup, and that's really what you want. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.400 The last time the Cowboys had anything like that was 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.120 probably Greg Ellis and de Marcus ware Right, well, you 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.439 had two legitimate pass rushers on the hither side. And 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.360 the other thing, which we can get to this in 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.840 a minute, but there's you know, the stats came out 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.079 this week that they're both both of them are among 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.680 the league leaders in terms of how often they're double teamed, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.679 which also says, you sure could use some help from 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.000 your tackles to take the pressure off of those guys. 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.840 You know, before he got here, I didn't know much 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.480 about him. I ain't really watch him play or anything. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.200 It was just based on everything that I was reading, 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.560 things that I was hearing about him. So I expected 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.640 him to be good and oh, he's gonna be great 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.920 next to the Marcus blah blah blah. We got to 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.120 training camp and what I saw prior to him getting 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:46.240 injured was not impressive. You saw it was seventy seven. Okay, 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.600 it doesn't matter. I mean it, yes, yes, it doesn't matter, 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:52.839 but it was still not impressive. But it was. It 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.079 was nothing that was getting me excited about. But so 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.560 that's why for me, at least, he definitely exceeded the 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.920 expect patients, because after watching that little bit of training 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.560 kim from him, I was just like, oh, this is 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.040 not that great. So when he came in finally from 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.480 the suspension and showed up what he can do and 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.920 just elevated his game game, elevated his game game after game, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.120 yeah that was impressive to me. In all fairness, is tyrant. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:24.120 I mean a lot of guys, he really does The 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:25.560 great part about it is, and we were talking about 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.560 this during training camp. Great part about it for Robert 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.160 Quinn was he was having to go up against him 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.880 in practice, but he's not gonna face very many weeks 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.280 in the NFL anybody better than him. So if you 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.480 can deal with that and start learning how to deal 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.160 with that, you're going to be even better going up 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.520 against the guys you have to go against every single weekend. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.600 I just saw him underground more often than I would 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.320 have wanted. But yeah, he's been to Tyrant. 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Let's jump to the defensive 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:09.320 tackle positions. You got guys like Malie Collins and Antoine Woods, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.040 Christian Covington and of course the rookie Triston Hill. How 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:16.639 these guys performed above at or below expectation? All below 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.200 for me? Everyone, all four of them, all four of them. 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.720 I thought Christian Covington would do more. I thought Malie 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.879 Collins would be like a stud like he was in 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.119 training camp. He's been pretty good at times, but not 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:29.119 like we thought. And I thought Triston Hill would play, 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:33.240 and I thought that Antoine Woods would play more too, 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.399 But he's been hurt. It's not necessarily his fault, but 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.680 I thought we'd get more on all four of them. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:41.320 That's for them. I give Antoine an incomplete just because 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.640 he's been hurt. You know, he was out for three 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.280 weeks with a spraying knee. Pretty much agree with Nick 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:50.080 about everything else. Like MALIEK. Collins is, he's played well. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.080 If he was just a dude, we would be it 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.400 would be gangbusters. But I mean we talked this guy 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.400 up all through training camp as just an absolute man 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:04.919 eating monster beast, and he's been good. He hasn't played 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.000 like that right well, and when you're on your last 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.679 year of your contract, you tend to do better, and 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.679 that's not something that he has. He's but he's not 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.760 being impressive. I hate to be on pace guy, but 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.000 he's on pace for like six or seven, you know, 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.760 five six sacks, which is pretty good for a d tackle, 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.040 but just all around his game. You know, he's had 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.280 lapses against the run. Again. You know, they need a 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.120 defensive tackle who can reliably push the pocket to help 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.560 their ends out. I don't think they've had that. And yeah, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.520 I mean, you know, Tristan Hill's not a bust. That's 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.119 way too early to call him that. But pick fifty 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.399 eight should not be a healthy scratch ever, you know, 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.280 I'm kind of I would be interested to know, And 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.280 if I catch one of these guys, I might actually 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.760 ask them what the defensive coaches, particularly defensive front coaches, 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.320 think of Malie collins play, because sometimes with a defensive tackle, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.480 what we see and what we evaluate is very different 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:03.399 than maybe how they see it, because they know what 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.679 he's being asked to do on every single play. I 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.200 would be interested to know if they think he's actually 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.320 playing better than we do, because maybe there are plays 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.160 where are like, his responsibility here is just to occupy 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.760 a guy. Really, that's his only responsibility, or to turn 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.040 a guy because somebody else should be shooting a guy. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.040 I don't I don't know that, but I would be 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:25.040 interested to see what they would honestly say about his play, 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:27.520 because I do think at moments he's been pretty good. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.480 I just don't know about those other moments that I 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.800 think are kind of gray area If that is the case, 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.160 and they and they told you this answer about he's 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.960 actually played great, we haven't asked them to do all 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.960 that stuff, then that's definitely on them. Then they get 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.639 they get a bad grade because what we saw a 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.640 training camp going up against the Zach well, really Zach 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.560 Martin wasn't there at camp, but still going up against 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.600 the offensive line at training camp, he was dominant. He 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:54.840 was what he was doing wasn't just taking up space. 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:56.960 He was making plays. So if he's been asked to 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.720