Speaker 1: Paul from Jen.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi Jen, is that you? Yes?
Speaker 3: This is Jen.
Speaker 2: Well, Jen, it's an honor, a privilege, and an honor
Speaker 2: to talk to you. How's it gone?
Speaker 3: Not that great?
Speaker 2: Well? Do you want to talk about it? Or do
Speaker 2: you want to talk about something else to distract from it?
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I kind of want to get
Speaker 3: your input on it, to be honest. So, like, I
Speaker 3: just recently went through a breakup, and so this guy
Speaker 3: I was with for seven years actually left me for
Speaker 3: someone he says he met online that he met like
Speaker 3: in two weeks, and she actually lives in a different
Speaker 3: country on top of that, so it's kind of like
Speaker 3: hard to get over it.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. When a guy says he met
Speaker 2: a woman on the internet in a foreign country, there's
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, realistically, I could give a funnier number,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna give a realistic number, A tw fifteen
Speaker 2: percent chance twenty twenty twenty. All people meet each other
Speaker 2: online pretty frequently these days, twenty percent chance she's not
Speaker 2: a real person.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because, like throughout our breakup, he kept saying that,
Speaker 3: like he's never fell in love like the one he
Speaker 3: has with her. And like all he could really think
Speaker 3: of is imagining her face and her voice while he
Speaker 3: was at work and mine to you be like, like
Speaker 3: I said, seven years together, he had a ring, he
Speaker 3: was ready to propose, we were like planning on having
Speaker 3: kids to I'm just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that things
Speaker 2: didn't work out. Man, hmmm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's definitely one of those things because like he
Speaker 3: told me too, that he told his parents before me
Speaker 3: that he was going to break up with me out
Speaker 3: of the blue.
Speaker 2: He told his parents before you that he was going
Speaker 2: to break up with you. Yeah, how long ago was
Speaker 2: all this?
Speaker 3: This was like the week of Thanksgiving on top of
Speaker 3: all that.
Speaker 2: What have you been doing since?
Speaker 3: Definitely still going through it emotionally because you know, obviously
Speaker 3: this is someone who I thought I was going to
Speaker 3: build a life with, and you know, he was very
Speaker 3: like emotionally abusive throughout the whole process, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of like different, completely different person from what I meant.
Speaker 3: And so it's definitely like something you would think that
Speaker 3: you would probably be like, you know what, like I
Speaker 3: need to move on, Like this is not who I
Speaker 3: was with, But you know, when you plan a future
Speaker 3: with someone's kind of hard to forget all that.
Speaker 2: Bro, life's fucking crazy, it really is. Yeah, it's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm oh, I'm like it's so hard
Speaker 2: to uh, I guess, like trust people, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you should be able to,
Speaker 2: but it's hard.
Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, Because like it really was like someone ripping
Speaker 3: a rug from underneath you kind of scenario because it
Speaker 3: just happened out of nowhere, and like he was just like,
Speaker 3: we need a break up. I'm not in love with you,
Speaker 3: and you know, I want to break up with you
Speaker 3: before I meet the one, before I can open my
Speaker 3: heart to someone. Mind you be he's already talking to
Speaker 3: someone these last those last two weeks, well going on.
Speaker 2: Well look here's the thing, And I know it's hard.
Speaker 2: This is a difficult perspective to tap into it at
Speaker 2: this very moment. But it's it's like these like breakups
Speaker 2: and ship they're kind of always a good thing mm hmmm,
Speaker 2: because like you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna be,
Speaker 2: if you gonna marry a fucking guy and have kids
Speaker 2: and get a house and really just you know, do
Speaker 2: a intertwine your existences and you know, with a kid
Speaker 2: and just just really fuck your lives together, you know,
Speaker 2: like a Barbie and a Ken Doll. Right then then
Speaker 2: then it should be somebody who's who's who's sure about you?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And if if this guy is not sure about you,
Speaker 2: then it's I think it's a good thing that you guys.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a it's quite a relief.
Speaker 2: I think that you know, at least this happened, you know,
Speaker 2: the timing of this is a lot fucking better than
Speaker 2: it could have been. And it could have been, you know,
Speaker 2: because you don't want to be you don't want to
Speaker 2: you don't want to have this conversation after Thanksgiving dinner
Speaker 2: with the whole family and kids house, Right, So I
Speaker 2: mean count that as a as as a good aspect
Speaker 2: of all of this, even though there's there's you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're I'm sure you're in a state of turmoil.
Speaker 2: What so I I look, I know it's all fresh,
Speaker 2: but are we are we gonna? Are we gonna go
Speaker 2: find ourselves? Of fucking European hunk? Now he's got his.
Speaker 3: Like I obviously like I'm not like him. So like
Speaker 3: seven years. To me, it's seven years, so like I'm
Speaker 3: still madly in love even though he's freed me over.
Speaker 3: But like on top of all this, you know, when
Speaker 3: I was trying to find this girl's number to talk
Speaker 3: to her, I ended up finding out he was talking
Speaker 3: to a dude back in August, and me and this
Speaker 3: guy started talking, and he apparently told this guy that
Speaker 3: he's been single for three years and that my car
Speaker 3: was his car, and all these stuff that I bought him,
Speaker 3: Like was apparently think he bought himself, when that's not
Speaker 3: even true. So he was trying to select at the
Speaker 3: same time, so.
Speaker 2: He was flexing. He's a little gay and he's got
Speaker 2: an international lady.
Speaker 3: I yeah, everyone, well, how how how old is this guy?
Speaker 2: How is this guy?
Speaker 3: He's twenty eight?
Speaker 2: Okay, he's going through like a he's you know what
Speaker 2: is unfortunate. He's going through a midlife crisis. That's what
Speaker 2: people think. People think midlife crisises happened at like fifty,
Speaker 2: but no one lives to one hundred. That's ridiculous. This
Speaker 2: guy's probably gonna you know, you know a lot of
Speaker 2: people die at sixty. I don't know when this guy's
Speaker 2: gonna die. I'm not gonna say anything, but it sounds
Speaker 2: like he's going through a crazy midlife crisis or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because everyone was telling me that, like are you
Speaker 3: sure he's not drugs or something or what is he doing?
Speaker 3: Because like it's just so weird, because like he was
Speaker 3: literally all of a sudden being a homophobe like towards
Speaker 3: the end, and so I'm thinking, like maybe he's like
Speaker 3: I can't find himself sexually, like I don't know, and
Speaker 3: like it's just such a weird scenario. Like in my head,
Speaker 3: it feels like a movie, but it's not.
Speaker 2: You said he was being a homophobe towards the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you know, we went to the gym and
Speaker 3: like one day and like he came coming out of
Speaker 3: the bathroom and I'm so pissed, and he was like
Speaker 3: I can't believe like all these people are doing rich
Speaker 3: in the sauna and I'm like, dude, like dropping, you
Speaker 3: don't have to look like if they're doing their stuff
Speaker 3: and go like blessing, be right.
Speaker 2: It sounds like he was. It sounds you know, this
Speaker 2: guy is like you know what, I feel bad because
Speaker 2: I'm about to get I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm about to say is giving him the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt. But it sounds as though this guy like, ah, fuck,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know how confident
Speaker 2: I am about to say. But he was like he
Speaker 2: he wanted to do the thing. He wanted to stick
Speaker 2: with the plane, he wanted to stick with the plan.
Speaker 2: But then he started having all these like gay thoughts,
Speaker 2: and he started he met this girl in Guatemala, and
Speaker 2: just life started to overtake and he tried to fight
Speaker 2: it a little bit, and that's why he was going
Speaker 2: off on these people in the sauna and shit. But
Speaker 2: but it just it, it took him in. And I
Speaker 2: don't know why all those things are happening. I don't
Speaker 2: know why he felt this crazy desire to make like,
Speaker 2: uh a left turn and and and and discuss, you know,
Speaker 2: discover things about himself that maybe he he he hadn't
Speaker 2: dived into previously. And it's it's a fucking damn shame
Speaker 2: that you are an innocent, uh, casualty in all of it,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, But whatever that's for his therapy, get
Speaker 2: go call this is yours.
Speaker 3: So it's funny too, because like I actually took this
Speaker 3: guy to confront him because he wanted closure and why
Speaker 3: he ghosted him. So we when we confronted him about it.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait you wait. So the guy wait wait,
Speaker 2: the guy that he was flirting with you and him
Speaker 2: got together to confront your ex.
Speaker 3: He knew where we lived because he googled his name,
Speaker 3: so he knew where we lived. He knew the apartment number, everything.
Speaker 3: He just asked if it was cool, if he can
Speaker 3: meet up. Then I was like, sure, that's fucking nuts, man,
Speaker 3: you just that's what I'm saying. It's like a movie.
Speaker 2: What happened when you confronted him and his wife and
Speaker 2: the guy from uh that he's cheating on her with
Speaker 2: fucking show up? What did he say?
Speaker 3: So we showed up at his dad's house because he
Speaker 3: would not come over to the apartment anymore, and so
Speaker 3: we knocked on the door and I told him, I
Speaker 3: was like, I brought you a friend. So he like
Speaker 3: he looked all surprised, and then he pretty much told
Speaker 3: the guy like the guy didn't not want to even
Speaker 3: look at him, and he told the guy like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know what, we had cool conversations. It was all cool,
Speaker 3: but then just the thought of doing anything with you
Speaker 3: just disgusted me.
Speaker 2: Oh he said that to the guy that he was
Speaker 2: started with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, wild right.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen back to you. What's your name again, Jen?
Speaker 3: Jen?
Speaker 1: Jen?
Speaker 2: Back to you?
Speaker 4: Jen?
Speaker 2: When's the last time he talked to your ex?
Speaker 3: This was on maybe like two weeks ago on Thursday,
Speaker 3: because we made plans on him taking up his stuff
Speaker 3: from storage and while my brother went with me because
Speaker 3: this is when he was having a screaming battle with
Speaker 3: me on the song about me being a psycho and
Speaker 3: being crazy and all this stuff. Because I told his
Speaker 3: current girlfriend, now they're official, I told her, hey, like
Speaker 3: if you really know the truth about him, like these
Speaker 3: are all the things that were leading up to the breakup,
Speaker 3: and like we were still seeing each other and sleeping
Speaker 3: with each other. And she was like, hey, you know
Speaker 3: what he told me he was single. Why are you
Speaker 3: making it like my fam. I'm like, I'm not blaming you,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what happened towards the end. And so
Speaker 3: he got all upset and called me and started screaming
Speaker 3: at me. And then that's when he was like, I
Speaker 3: need to take my stuff out of storage, which is fine.
Speaker 3: Then he shows up to storage with cops because he
Speaker 3: wanted the engagement ring back as well. So I gated
Speaker 3: back to him, and I was just kind of like
Speaker 3: wearded out because this is a guy too who's apparently
Speaker 3: like hates the cops, but he's been calling the cops
Speaker 3: lately on me.
Speaker 2: Crazy dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is a guy too that says he's
Speaker 3: going through a spiritual journey because he wants to connect
Speaker 3: to God.
Speaker 2: What is he going to, like live with this woman
Speaker 2: in her country or is she coming to the US?
Speaker 3: I don't know. He can't afford a plane ticket to
Speaker 3: the Philippines to go see her, so I don't know
Speaker 3: what his plans are.
Speaker 2: Well, look again, I'll say that's for that guy's therapy.
Speaker 2: Getto call what so? I mean you and you guys
Speaker 2: don't okay, And you guys don't have any kids or anything,
Speaker 2: and you never were married, so there's no divorce. Crazy crap.
Speaker 2: So okay, No, So what do you let me ask
Speaker 2: you this jen seven years? What's something you just ended?
Speaker 2: This one thing? What's something you always wanted to do
Speaker 2: but you couldn't because you had this boyfriend.
Speaker 3: I really wanted to work in the music business, and
Speaker 3: I definitely will admit I kind of put that on
Speaker 3: the back burner because of him and his insecurities, and
Speaker 3: so like right now, like I want to try to
Speaker 3: refocus myself on that again, but it's you know, it
Speaker 3: still feels fresh and like the holidays are happening, so
Speaker 3: it just even sucks.
Speaker 2: What were his insecurities about you working in the in
Speaker 2: the music industry?
Speaker 3: So I had friends in bands and you know, stuff
Speaker 3: like that, So it's just as insecurities as like, you know,
Speaker 3: you're around all these guys eyes and like, you know
Speaker 3: what if they hit on you? Stuff. And I told him, like,
Speaker 3: if I wanted to be with someone like that, I
Speaker 3: could have. I have had the opportunity, but a lot
Speaker 3: of them aren't really the best boyfriend materials, and like
Speaker 3: I couldn't see myself with someone like that, but he
Speaker 3: just couldn't get over it.
Speaker 2: M So, are you going to try to pursue something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: I'm in the process of continuing my career path on that,
Speaker 3: but is just you know, I'm living in a fantasy
Speaker 3: land right now where like we would get back together,
Speaker 3: even though in my mind I know it's not the
Speaker 3: best idea in the sky.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I.
Speaker 2: I look, you were with this guy for seven years.
Speaker 2: You planned a whole life with him. I understand why,
Speaker 2: And this only happens like a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: It sounds so I understand while you're living in fantasyland.
Speaker 2: From my perspective and the perspective of the people listening,
Speaker 2: it's like, why would you ever want to talk to
Speaker 2: this guy again? But I'm not. I'm not. I won't
Speaker 2: be ignorant enough not to understand that, yes, you were
Speaker 2: with him for seven years and that that's going to
Speaker 2: take a while. But I'm fairly confident that after some
Speaker 2: time you will join the side of defence that I
Speaker 2: and the people listening likely are sitting on when they
Speaker 2: when they view this relationship. Yeah, but this is exciting.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, okay, you want to work in
Speaker 2: the music industry? Is there anything else?
Speaker 3: Just pretty much traveling, to be honest, because that's something
Speaker 3: I still have planned and you know we both have
Speaker 3: planned it. But like at this point, I don't want
Speaker 3: to stop just because I'm not with him anymore.
Speaker 2: Please, please, dear God, oh my God, the best thing,
Speaker 2: the best thing you could possibly do is if you
Speaker 2: and your partner had travel plans together, don't cancel him
Speaker 2: go where'd you get? Where are you planning?
Speaker 3: Well, I've always wanted to go to Spain, you know, Hawaii,
Speaker 3: like just places like that, like you know, adventuring, go.
Speaker 2: To Spain, go to Hawaii. There's hot, there's hot. But
Speaker 2: I mean, jen, the hunk population of Hawaii, it's about
Speaker 2: three hundred thousands, you know, just go by yourself and
Speaker 2: and and get hunked.
Speaker 3: Right, just see what he is? You know, Yeah, it
Speaker 3: just sucks. But you know, I don't know how people
Speaker 3: can just get over a relationship, especially.
Speaker 2: After it's not gonna I understand. I'm just I'm I'm I.
Speaker 2: I know I'm ignorant to your your particular don't know,
Speaker 2: but you know, I think I think eventually, hopefully time
Speaker 2: will will heal the wounds, you know, time hunks hunks,
Speaker 2: he'll Yeah, But are you still are you still friends
Speaker 2: with the with the with the guy like the.
Speaker 3: The guy he was hitting Funny, that guy just hits
Speaker 3: me up to see like if I'm in contact with
Speaker 3: my ex and if I have his number, and so
Speaker 3: I kind of just erased him off my phone because
Speaker 3: it just seemed like he's still won't isn't over whatever
Speaker 3: happened between them.
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of think, I mean listen, I mean, Jen,
Speaker 2: call me crazy, but I think that YouTube might be
Speaker 2: needing to plan a trip to Hawaii. Now that would
Speaker 2: be tell me, that wouldn't be a movie. That's a
Speaker 2: movie right there. You that guy going to Hawaii getting
Speaker 2: hunked out. That's a movie right there that I would watch.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to figure out the script.
Speaker 2: That's a Jett Appatow movie. You you're Leslie Man, who's
Speaker 2: the guy whatever? Who cares? Anyway? Well, Jen, how do
Speaker 2: you how do you? How do you feel?
Speaker 3: How do I what?
Speaker 2: How do you feel?
Speaker 3: I feel great after this conversation. I mean, like I
Speaker 3: definitely you know, needed to let it out because it's
Speaker 3: funny because he actually introduced me to you to like
Speaker 3: your podcasts.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I hope that when you think of this part,
Speaker 2: I hope that now that you have been introduced and
Speaker 2: he's in the Philippines and he's listening to, you know,
Speaker 2: other crazy podcasts, I hope I hope that you can
Speaker 2: associate this podcast yourself with it not being associated with him,
Speaker 2: so that you can keep listening and maybe buy a
Speaker 2: T shirt from my merch store at therapy Gecko dot
Speaker 2: com at some point.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure, that's on my Christmas list.
Speaker 2: Jane, is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: I mean, thanks for all your guys' advice, for sure,
Speaker 3: because I definitely need it.
Speaker 2: All right, take care, Jen.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Thank you, hunk City All from.
Speaker 4: My name is Omar?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 2: Is this Omar?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 2: Omar? What's going on?
Speaker 4: Just ship getting high? Playing City star lives, making like
Speaker 4: little people move around the only.
Speaker 2: Screen you're playing?
Speaker 4: What that game is? Like? Fucking sim City and just
Speaker 4: like make cities sounds. It's sucking sick.
Speaker 2: You're getting high and playing SimCity?
Speaker 4: Hell? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow? What made you want to interrupt such a beautiful
Speaker 2: life experience just to call me?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I wanted to hear what you have
Speaker 4: to say about life. You seem pretty wise, but someone I.
Speaker 2: Want to hear what I have to say about life?
Speaker 2: What do I have to say about life? Sometimes I
Speaker 2: I wonder sometimes I'm I've been going back, you know,
Speaker 2: I've been think about a lot, but going back and
Speaker 2: forth about whether life is easy or hard? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Because sometimes I'm like, wait, this is this is easy,
Speaker 2: and then other times I'm like, wait, this is really hard.
Speaker 4: Did you get born into an easy life or a
Speaker 4: hard life?
Speaker 2: You say, born into an easy life or a hard life?
Speaker 4: Did you did you?
Speaker 2: Which one did you get? Say? Where are you from?
Speaker 4: I'm from London.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's why your phone is a little shitty
Speaker 2: and your accent is a little shitty too, so I
Speaker 2: can sort of only barely understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4: That's fair enough. I'll try and articulate a little bit harder.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, So what did you just say?
Speaker 4: Did you get an easy life or a hard one?
Speaker 4: Which one did you get born into?
Speaker 2: It's fun to make fun of British people because you
Speaker 2: know they're also just white, all right? So oh fuck?
Speaker 4: Sorry did you get did you get an easy life
Speaker 4: or did you get a hard one? Which one did
Speaker 4: you get born into? It?
Speaker 2: Born into?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I mean fu comparatively easy? God damn. I mean it
Speaker 2: depends on it depends on uh uh, your perspective, because
Speaker 2: I mean all my I mean, because look, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I think the right the bar for an easy life
Speaker 2: to me in consideration to all of the lives that
Speaker 2: are out there, is like if if you're born into
Speaker 2: a life where, like, you know, your parents don't beat
Speaker 2: the shit out of you, and you can eat food
Speaker 2: and drink water, that's pretty good. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's necessarily easy, but it's just pretty good.
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, it's pretty sweet.
Speaker 2: What about you? What do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I hell, yeah, dude, I'm privileged out. I got
Speaker 4: a three life. I grew up in Asia now I
Speaker 4: live in London. I'm living it up, living that dream.
Speaker 2: Where are you from? Where in Asia are you from?
Speaker 4: No? I grew up in Singapore.
Speaker 2: Oh I've heard of Singapore. Singapore is? Singapore is kind
Speaker 2: of rich, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cool when you're under eighteen, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Why is it cool when you're under eighteen but not
Speaker 2: cool when you're over.
Speaker 4: Eighteen Cause you can have like a fun sheltered time now,
Speaker 4: like you can go like cringe clubbing and shait. But
Speaker 4: when you grow up and you want to like do
Speaker 4: some cool shit like my weed and stuff, you can't
Speaker 4: do any of that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. So you just said, yeah, living in Singapore
Speaker 2: as a minor is cool because you can go to
Speaker 2: the club, but then once you turn eighteen you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to smoke weed.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you grow up and you want to do
Speaker 4: coolest stuff because you realize club is really lame. But
Speaker 4: you can't do cooler stuff. You can't say weed, you
Speaker 4: can't do drugs. You got to like live that cookie
Speaker 4: cut of corporate lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Why were you you were clubbing? How old were you
Speaker 2: when you were clubbing?
Speaker 4: You can go clubbing when you're like thirteen fourteen there
Speaker 4: because you're like expat so you like get into places easier.
Speaker 2: Really wait, so are you like so you're telling me
Speaker 2: there are clubs where there's like thirty five year olds
Speaker 2: hanging out with thirteen year olds.
Speaker 4: Bro, yeah percent, and like what's even with it? At
Speaker 4: the time, it is like you think it's normal that
Speaker 4: they're just like partying with you, getting new drinks, and
Speaker 4: then you grow up and you'reze, how cringe that is
Speaker 4: that this like dude who's like thirty is just like
Speaker 4: hanging out with eighteen year olds? Thinking as cool as fuck?
Speaker 4: When you liked makes oup where to go in high school?
Speaker 2: Goddamn? So how old were you? How old were you
Speaker 2: when you left Singapore?
Speaker 4: I think I left when I was seventeen.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you ever go back?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I used to go back when my parents said there,
Speaker 4: but I don't go back anymore.
Speaker 2: Do you still club Where are you now? Are you
Speaker 2: in London? Are in London?
Speaker 4: No? No? No, not really. I get a gig, but
Speaker 4: I don't go clubbing. I'm older now, I'm like thirty,
Speaker 4: so it's like a bit, you know, more chilling.
Speaker 2: What do you do with your life? Omar?
Speaker 4: I'm a YouTuber?
Speaker 2: Are a YouTuber? Are you?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 2: A YouTube? Has gotten so niche and so I feel
Speaker 2: like you're You're a niche YouTube? You you're a weed
Speaker 2: and sim City YouTuber those that's your nie?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, Like.
Speaker 2: You did a review on specifically the best strains to
Speaker 2: smoke while playing SimCity, that's your No.
Speaker 4: I wish I wish that was myself.
Speaker 2: That's hey sports, Just so you know, if you want,
Speaker 2: you can have that.
Speaker 4: It's hard to here, dude. It's illegal here. It's illegal
Speaker 4: and I think I'll get demonetized if I do that.
Speaker 2: Really? Is we weeds?
Speaker 4: Not?
Speaker 2: Is we legal in London?
Speaker 4: No? Everyone smokes weed, but it's all see.
Speaker 2: You're saying you're breaking the law right now?
Speaker 4: I mean, are you breaking a little fatually? If you
Speaker 4: say weeds O? You're in Canada?
Speaker 2: Why do you think I was? I'm not in Canaday?
Speaker 2: Do you think I was in?
Speaker 4: Oh? I don't know, that's what You're in? Galla? Who
Speaker 4: are you?
Speaker 2: I'm oh? Mar? I got a question? Is there? And
Speaker 2: it's okay if not. I'm enjoying talking to you. We
Speaker 2: can talk about all kinds of things. But is there
Speaker 2: a particular thing you wanted to talk about on the phone.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, There's a few things going on,
Speaker 4: but I don't know if I want to talk about them online.
Speaker 4: You know. What I've been playing with though recently, is
Speaker 4: like when you realize that you know nothing really means anything,
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to get psyched to do anything.
Speaker 4: Like like I get that, like you know, the end
Speaker 4: game is that you're just enjoying every moment as it comes,
Speaker 4: because that's really all you get. You don't get the future,
Speaker 4: you don't get the past. You just get now, right,
Speaker 4: But like, I don't know, when you do that forever,
Speaker 4: it feels reckless and you're like, damn, in like ten
Speaker 4: years time, I'm gonna fucked up because all I was
Speaker 4: doing it's focusing on the present.
Speaker 2: Is your version of focusing on the present getting high
Speaker 2: and playing sim City?
Speaker 4: No, not all the time?
Speaker 2: What's your version of focusing on the present?
Speaker 4: I guess heating isthing like I don't know, like going
Speaker 4: out to dinner, going to the pub, getting fucked up?
Speaker 4: All right, shit like that.
Speaker 2: So you're thirty, right, yeah, do you feel like you
Speaker 2: fucked up your future?
Speaker 4: No? But I'm worried that I'll get there and it'll
Speaker 4: be too late. You know, you'll figure that out.
Speaker 2: Okay, what are you doing here?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: What do you I mean, what do you like? Give
Speaker 2: me some specifics. What do you think you fucked up?
Speaker 4: Well, it's just like, okay, so I'm a YouTube I
Speaker 4: aren't like pretty decent money, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: same and popularity that they're not solid things. But all
Speaker 4: my other thirty year old friends they have legit jobs there.
Speaker 4: They're like fucking some of them bankers. They I mean,
Speaker 4: they have a ship time, but they're earning ships on
Speaker 4: the cash. They're locked in for like a future that
Speaker 4: will last for ages, And it's just that security looks
Speaker 4: so sweet, but it's like the price you place that
Speaker 4: is very high, and it's just like, am I making
Speaker 4: the right choice for not doing that? Well?
Speaker 2: Omar, I have good news. If you want to talk
Speaker 2: about fake jobs, you've come to the right professional Geko.
Speaker 4: Good point. What do you think about the future? Like,
Speaker 4: how are you? How do you are you? Are you
Speaker 4: worried about these things?
Speaker 2: Dude? If you want to know my real answer on this,
Speaker 2: I just like am thinking, I've thought about a few things.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm just right now. I'm just
Speaker 2: like I do like and I'm gonna get practical with
Speaker 2: you right now. I'm just like, Okay, let me like
Speaker 2: save as much money as possible so that, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I can like have a nice cushion before I, you know,
Speaker 2: ever have to get a real job if I ever do.
Speaker 2: But and I think about that a lot. I think
Speaker 2: about the future. I think about like, oh man, when
Speaker 2: am I gonna you know, I I because you know, right,
Speaker 2: we're in the same but I have no security in
Speaker 2: what I do really but h and you know, and again, bruh,
Speaker 2: I think about this every single day. I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm twenty I'm almost I'm twenty six
Speaker 2: next week, and I'm like, what the fuck am I
Speaker 2: going to be doing when I'm like forty? You know,
Speaker 2: am I still gonna be imagine?
Speaker 4: Like, you know, I be squashed? You have the classic
Speaker 4: YouTube is ship. I can't imagine being like a fifty
Speaker 4: year old dude being like yo, I can send off
Speaker 4: a squaes click my link, Like, I just can't imagine
Speaker 4: doing that, right.
Speaker 2: I Mean, here's the thing, though, is I will you
Speaker 2: you you have to understand that certain things are outside
Speaker 2: of your control. So for me, I'm like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: how hard I work is in my control. So that's
Speaker 2: why you know, I again post clips for my to
Speaker 2: promote the podcast, and I work really hard to make
Speaker 2: sure that the show is good, and I work as
Speaker 2: hard as I can to be the best Gecko as
Speaker 2: I can. And uh, outside of that, I mean, none
Speaker 2: of this shit is really in my control. All the
Speaker 2: people listening could be like, hey, you know what, this
Speaker 2: is fucking stupid and turn it off, and you know,
Speaker 2: then I, you know, have to go. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I've I've talked when I
Speaker 2: talk to my friends and family about this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: They always tell me that I'll figure it out, and
Speaker 2: I've started to try to want to believe them that,
Speaker 2: you know, I have. I feel a certain sense of
Speaker 2: confidence and security and my own brain and my own
Speaker 2: skills and my own experience that you know, I'll be
Speaker 2: okay regardless of what happens to the sure I'll figure
Speaker 2: it out. And you know whatever, I mean, if it's
Speaker 2: just if it's purely a money thing, I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a thousand different ways to make money in the in
Speaker 2: the world, So you know, I'm sure I'll figure out
Speaker 2: uh something, But for now, I'm almost I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a there's you guys are balancing actor, right, because
Speaker 2: the more I stress out about the future and the
Speaker 2: more I wonder what the hell I'm gonna be doing
Speaker 2: when I'm thirty seven, the less I'm focused on doing
Speaker 2: what on what I'm going to be doing when I
Speaker 2: am right now alive? You know, So I'm like robbing
Speaker 2: from Yeah, I'm like, I'm robbing from my present geckoss
Speaker 2: to think about, you know, how I'm gonna afford to
Speaker 2: eat food when I'm you know, forty five. So uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I I don't know. I don't. I think
Speaker 2: about this stuff all the time. I mean, what do
Speaker 2: you think?
Speaker 4: I mean? I thinking about it all the time too.
Speaker 4: It's like, to be honest, I'm just we like. It
Speaker 4: also starts to play back to this thing where like
Speaker 4: you know, people like, oh you have on your own
Speaker 4: is your memories? Because I don't even like really know
Speaker 4: if my memory is even legit?
Speaker 2: Do you do?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, You're like you trying to
Speaker 4: recall something? You know? Am I even remembering that? Is
Speaker 4: this just like some boss? It's like right where else
Speaker 4: I going at that point, because it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: when you're living in the now, you're trying to create
Speaker 4: create memories for later, so you like have a really
Speaker 4: good life in your head. But it's like I don't
Speaker 4: really remember those things. So it's like I'm living for
Speaker 4: the now, but the now it's literally just as my bleeding.
Speaker 4: So it's like, really weird, A is there any reason
Speaker 4: why I'm putting happy into this? Now? I've kind of
Speaker 4: lost my point. But basically it's fucking complicated and I
Speaker 4: can't figure it out.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So I mean, well here's here, there's another
Speaker 2: aspect of all this stuff that I was thinking about.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is true. I don't
Speaker 2: know if I agree with this, but it's a thought
Speaker 2: that I've explored in my head, which is that kind
Speaker 2: of bro in general, security is like kind of a myth.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree with that, but but
Speaker 2: I do. I do think about it. I mean, think
Speaker 2: about the pandemic. Right, like a bunch of people who
Speaker 2: like had you know, quote, real stable jobs just got
Speaker 2: fucking fired, you know, and you know, layoffs happen all
Speaker 2: the time. People get with real secure jobs get fucking fired.
Speaker 2: And hey, besides even that, people get people who are
Speaker 2: in like good health have fucking brain aneurysms and die
Speaker 2: when they're fifty. And people get into car accidents and
Speaker 2: die when they're thirty, even though they had security and
Speaker 2: they had good health and this and that. So so
Speaker 2: I mean security, it's like you can you can get
Speaker 2: pretty short that everything's gonna be okay, but that's that's
Speaker 2: like the best you could never you could never be
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure that everything's gonna be okay. You
Speaker 2: is never unless if you like, stayed inside your room
Speaker 2: and eight lettuce and did push ups and never left
Speaker 2: and anything. But you can't live like that. And even
Speaker 2: if you did look like that, you'd only get to like,
Speaker 2: you know, ninety percent sure that everything's gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: But even but that version of life is not things
Speaker 2: being okay. So I you know, security does feel like
Speaker 2: a myth in that way. You can never be one
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure that everything's gonna be okay. And so
Speaker 2: to that point, I kind of surrender thinking about it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if I if I'm
Speaker 2: never gonna be one hundred percent sure that everything's gonna
Speaker 2: be okay, then why the what's the fucking point of
Speaker 2: worrying about if things are gonna be okay?
Speaker 4: You know, se man, you just you know, you just
Speaker 4: like let go with the flow. But that's not an
Speaker 4: active mentality you have to maintain like it's norse. It's
Speaker 4: not passive, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course no I'm talking about I'm talking a
Speaker 2: bunch of ship to you right now. But you know,
Speaker 2: after the stream is over, I'm gonna be like, what's
Speaker 2: my YouTube revenue for this for this uh month? And
Speaker 2: how am I.
Speaker 4: Gonna bro I I I created a straight up. It
Speaker 4: was like driving me instead, right, right right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh, Well what am I allowed to ask you
Speaker 2: what your YouTube channel is? Or are you trying to
Speaker 2: remain anonymous?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bouldering.
Speaker 2: What dude, what did you just say?
Speaker 4: Yeah, bouldering just such, boba, you'll find us rock.
Speaker 2: Climbing, bouldering, bullbark.
Speaker 4: The b o b a t.
Speaker 2: B o b a t oh bulbering, Man, you got
Speaker 2: you got it bro bulbering, bulbart.
Speaker 4: Just talking in complete, You'll be fine.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's nice talking me.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't have all that many people
Speaker 2: who I know that do actually know I have a
Speaker 2: good you know, I wish I could talk to I
Speaker 2: wish I had more people to talk to about having
Speaker 2: a fake funny job.
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. Man. It's like it's it's leading. Everyone's
Speaker 4: all serious, and it's like, can someone else, Like my
Speaker 4: parents have no idea what I did. Your parents know
Speaker 4: what you do?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but like they understand it to fine understand.
Speaker 4: Like your fucking parents fully understand how he dressed them
Speaker 4: as a gecko because of the casting your back down.
Speaker 2: My parents understand that I dress up as a gecko
Speaker 2: and talk to people on the phone and uh do
Speaker 2: tours and make videos and stuff. Fad Ugh, my dad
Speaker 2: used to be in the chat, but I don't think
Speaker 2: he's in the chat anymore. Wait, there's a couple. There's
Speaker 2: like a dude and the wait, there's a dude in
Speaker 2: my chat right now who says he watches you?
Speaker 4: Oh? Hell yeah, what's up?
Speaker 2: That's cool? How many subs do you have?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Now that's sick?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: Are you happy? Are you still?
Speaker 4: We're kind of like, you know, what're like on the
Speaker 4: you know, when your channel was like peaking before. We're
Speaker 4: on like the down end of our peak. But that's okay.
Speaker 4: We we opened the gym in real life.
Speaker 2: Open you opened the gym.
Speaker 4: In real life? Yeah, because we didn't want to run
Speaker 4: on YouTube, so we were like we need to make
Speaker 4: something brick and mortar. So we we opened the gym
Speaker 4: in London.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's see, that's something I want to do. I
Speaker 2: want to I want to diversify my life, you know, like,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I love I love doing the podcast and
Speaker 2: the podcast is sick, but I'm like, oh what else
Speaker 2: could I also I'm thinking about that, I'm like, what
Speaker 2: could I do in real life? That's like, you know, it.
Speaker 4: Keeps like the It keeps like the creativity fresh as well.
Speaker 4: Doing ship in different aspects that all that kind of related.
Speaker 4: It like helps you just get ship coming out of
Speaker 4: your mind.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel like. Ah what oh he hung up?
Speaker 2: Well that sucks. Well wow, that's a real bummer way
Speaker 2: to end that call. Hold on, let me see if
Speaker 2: I can get him back. No, I don't think I can.
Speaker 2: But that's okay. We were on the We were on
Speaker 2: the much as he much as he said we we
Speaker 2: we had peaked much as he said he had peaked
Speaker 2: in his channel. I think we had peaked in that call.
Speaker 2: That was a good call. Shout out to what's his
Speaker 2: name again, Bobert, Bouldering Bobert. Shout out to Bouldering Bobert.
Speaker 2: That's good talking to you. Let's collab. Should we do
Speaker 2: a collab? But what did he say he what kind
Speaker 2: of stuff did he say he makes? I'll go to
Speaker 2: his gym, That's what we'll do, Bobering Bobert. If you
Speaker 2: hear this, I'll go to your gym in London and
Speaker 2: we'll make a video. Maybe depends on how strenuous you
Speaker 2: want the activity to be. All right, thanks for calling, Bobert.
Speaker 2: Hey folks, it's Lyle. So we have reached the end
Speaker 2: of the phone call portion of this podcast because I
Speaker 2: wanted to end with an excerpt from this video that
Speaker 2: I just put out on my YouTube channel today, So
Speaker 2: to give some context, I was in Australia on tour
Speaker 2: over the summer and one day I went to the
Speaker 2: beach in my gecko suit and I filmed a video
Speaker 2: just running around talking to various strangers on the peer
Speaker 2: of this beach in the same freeform way that I
Speaker 2: talked to callers on this podcast, and the conversation that
Speaker 2: you're about to hear now is probably my favorite one
Speaker 2: from that day. So I had already been filming for
Speaker 2: like four hours. It was nighttime. I was done. I
Speaker 2: put my camera away and I was just walking around
Speaker 2: and this dude on the docks starts asking me why
Speaker 2: I am walking along the water in a frog costume,
Speaker 2: which is a good question, and we started talking and
Speaker 2: he told me he's taking a walk to clear his mind.
Speaker 2: So I asked him what he's trying to clear his
Speaker 2: mind from, and we just got into this very open,
Speaker 2: honest conversation as two complete total strangers on a pier
Speaker 2: at night and it was really cool, so I wanted
Speaker 2: to share it on here. So let us transport to
Speaker 2: the docks of Saint Kilda Beach in Melbourne, Australia to
Speaker 2: talk to a stranger. I walk around as a gecko
Speaker 2: and I just try to I'm like going on little adventures,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5: Yeah? And then what people lock your adventures?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess sometimes.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: What's your name? Man, Nice to meet you, Tim. What
Speaker 2: what brings you out to the docks this evening?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you be out here?
Speaker 2: Look, it's beautiful, It is beautiful. So you were saying
Speaker 2: to me before I turned this on that you were
Speaker 2: just going on a walk to like clear your head
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 5: Of course, what.
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff do you or you can't think of?
Speaker 5: Experience anxiety while you walk? Yeah, there's a little known
Speaker 5: staff and I've got a big footy game.
Speaker 6: My team's playing tonight, so I've want to try and
Speaker 6: relax before that.
Speaker 2: What's been like stress?
Speaker 4: And yeah, I've.
Speaker 6: Been working up in Broken Hill for three months and
Speaker 6: then I came back and worked three days this week
Speaker 6: after a ten hour drive. And now that's over. Relationship over,
Speaker 6: moved back in my house. Yeah, it's a change, So
Speaker 6: you need.
Speaker 2: To what what you what were you working at?
Speaker 4: What were you doing?
Speaker 5: I was a medical advisor on a medical TV show.
Speaker 2: Oh really, So now that that's over, what's uh what
Speaker 2: do you think you're going to do now?
Speaker 5: That's why I'm out here?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And you said there was
Speaker 2: there was a relationship. What how long were you guys
Speaker 2: together for a nice man? What do you think you're
Speaker 2: going to like go out on the dating scene again
Speaker 2: or are you going to wait a little bit?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Oh, I definitely had a bit of time for the
Speaker 6: dust as hittle. Yeah, and then and then see what's
Speaker 6: out there?
Speaker 2: What do you think makes like a good relationship?
Speaker 5: It's a good question.
Speaker 6: Used to always just be raw attraction was the most
Speaker 6: important thing. But but then if you've got that but
Speaker 6: no great human qualities, something to admire, yeah, something to
Speaker 6: bring your joy, yeah, and a good sense of humor,
Speaker 6: then you don't have much.
Speaker 2: It's hard because raw traction, it can, it brings, it
Speaker 2: brings the two people together, but it doesn't glue them.
Speaker 2: Do you think there was something that you learned from
Speaker 2: it at all?
Speaker 5: The recent finish one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to.
Speaker 6: If something's not right, then then acknowledge it and talk
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 2: I guess not.
Speaker 6: Not just internalizing everything and then because it won't it
Speaker 6: won't go away. You need to You need to find
Speaker 6: a way to express yourself and be receptive to the
Speaker 6: other person's perspective. And then if both of those things happen,
Speaker 6: you might be able to work it out but and
Speaker 6: make that relationship work. But you also might quickly be
Speaker 6: able to finish it and end it and then find
Speaker 6: something with someone else that does have that missing ingredient.
Speaker 5: That was troubling you with the last person.
Speaker 2: Are you Are you good at like being alone?
Speaker 5: I'm pretty comfortable, but I think I'm ready not to.
Speaker 2: Be fifty of like a good good friends and family
Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, although all my friends and family are sort of
Speaker 5: more involved with their own families.
Speaker 7: At this stage in life, so it's there's you know,
Speaker 7: there's a few out there, but it's not like it
Speaker 7: was when we're teens and twenties and everyone's in the same.
Speaker 2: Boat, right right. Do you do you do you have
Speaker 2: kids or do you want you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you do you keep in touch with like your
Speaker 2: your parents or your parents still around?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm talking to them ballet with them tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, man, that's nice.
Speaker 5: You have my birthday dinner on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Oh your birthday is this weekend. Have a birthday man,
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: How do you like when you how do you feel
Speaker 2: about your birthday? Like?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it a happy occasion or is it like a
Speaker 2: time for reflection?
Speaker 5: Okay, so it's a bit of both. Definitely the latter.
Speaker 5: And that's what again while I'm here, Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 5: mention it early, but.
Speaker 6: It's yeah, I guess you've there's got to be a
Speaker 6: time in the year when you take stock and like
Speaker 6: everyone does it a bit at Christmas or whatever, but
Speaker 6: it's a more personal stock taking moment when it's your birthday,
Speaker 6: I think, And particularly as you get a bit older,
Speaker 6: it's in and you're closer to the end and the start,
Speaker 6: you become more cognizant of all the of what's important
Speaker 6: and time and who you are and where you're going.
Speaker 2: Do you do you feel like the ride so far?
Speaker 2: Has it? Has it been a good Has it been
Speaker 2: a good.
Speaker 4: Ride so far?
Speaker 5: Definitely? And I don't want to let the poll of
Speaker 5: recent events sort of sour o the so my view
Speaker 5: of the forty three almost forty three years.
Speaker 4: To now.
Speaker 5: But I've been very lucky and I should be very grateful.
Speaker 2: What what do you feel like has been the best
Speaker 2: part of the raid so far? Like the stuff you're
Speaker 2: the most grateful for?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: It's a good question.
Speaker 6: I mean, I've had some amazing people in my life,
Speaker 6: and I've just had a lot of opportunities to do
Speaker 6: things too, to study things, to to play sports and
Speaker 6: music and express myself artistically, and.
Speaker 5: Those moments which you.
Speaker 6: Don't get a lot and you realize as life goes on,
Speaker 6: you know, it's just not going to keep happening. But
Speaker 6: I've had a lot of those and there will be more.
Speaker 6: Sometimes you just got to make it happen a bit more.
Speaker 6: And I guess I'm reflecting on that. How do you
Speaker 6: make things happen? And when do you let things happen?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Do you do you feel as though with
Speaker 2: every passing year, like things happen naturally a little bit
Speaker 2: us and there's a little bit more of a kick
Speaker 2: to have to make them happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's definitely the wheels turn And I guess
Speaker 5: as if you get a bit creakier and older. You
Speaker 5: have to make them turn.
Speaker 6: As the years go by, they don't just it's less
Speaker 6: downhill skiing, more cross country?
Speaker 2: Does any Does anything get better as the years go by?
Speaker 2: Like what anything particular you notice is getting better?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: There is something about experience and wisdom that means you can.
Speaker 6: Enjoy things from outside a bit more, Like you can
Speaker 6: look at a situation and appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Without being caught up in it as much.
Speaker 2: Right, because you've been because because you feel like you've
Speaker 2: been there before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've been there. You've got some conspection.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 5: Sometimes that's yeah, is a bit of a shadow.
Speaker 6: But I think with that knowledge and awareness, there's some
Speaker 6: satisfaction and you can't you just don't. You don't get
Speaker 6: that from when you're there, you're coming up, you're doing
Speaker 6: it for the first time.
Speaker 2: Right, there's a little bit more emotion and raw anxiety
Speaker 2: because it's it's new.
Speaker 5: And then then maybe there's more adrenaline there too, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, more adrenaline, but that's not everything.
Speaker 6: And as you get older and you know, windows close, well,
Speaker 6: there's more closed windows and open windows. Sometimes it's good
Speaker 6: because you sort of accept that you're not going to
Speaker 6: be able to do everything in this life, and that
Speaker 6: acceptance has some.
Speaker 5: Well when you when you resign to that fact, there's
Speaker 5: some pace.
Speaker 2: I think so too, because like there's this there's a
Speaker 2: weird stress to like want to fucking do everything that
Speaker 2: there is to do, and then if you're not doing it,
Speaker 2: you're like you're beating yourself up about it. But then
Speaker 2: as you get as you kind of realize just you're
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to there's an acceptance and with
Speaker 2: that acceptance, that anxiety, that beating yourself up about not
Speaker 2: fucking doing everything, ever, it goes away a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's kind of this kind of kind of nice because
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: have to do everything. Sometimes just standing looking at cool
Speaker 2: buildings is like that's it. You know, it's good enough.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you you're talking about, like
Speaker 2: stuff you want to make happen? What is what is
Speaker 2: it that you want to make happen?
Speaker 6: Well, you've got to make a family happen. You go
Speaker 6: to you've got to make a career happen.
Speaker 5: You've got to.
Speaker 6: You know, I sort of move from dance for to
Speaker 6: dance floor rather than stay in the same venue and
Speaker 6: make that my permanent fixture. So I've got to find
Speaker 6: a place and stays my It's the thing I've.
Speaker 5: Got to make happen.
Speaker 2: How long have you been on this dance floor.
Speaker 6: For I've been back from another dance floor for a week,
Speaker 6: not quite a week. And now I'm gonna go overseas
Speaker 6: and that'll be another dance floor.
Speaker 5: Oh where are you gonna go? London, Portugal and Spain.
Speaker 2: Sick, what are you doing there?
Speaker 5: My friend's fortieth Oh cool.
Speaker 3: Man and.
Speaker 5: Her twin sister and yeah, just get out of the cold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're still good. You're going on a venture
Speaker 2: as you're making that's cool man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and that's great.
Speaker 6: But I also look forward to, you know, something that
Speaker 6: a lot of my friends have, which is security and
Speaker 6: stability and all the things I often think of boring,
Speaker 6: but there they also have.
Speaker 2: I was just talking to somebody over there about that
Speaker 2: whole conflict between stability and adventure. You know, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's it's a prevalent thing because because it also
Speaker 2: I feel like it ties into all the stuff we've
Speaker 2: been talking because it's like, you want to be able
Speaker 2: to do everything and that's like unstable but fun. And
Speaker 2: then there's kind of that acceptance. But with that acceptance
Speaker 2: comes a little bit more stability and security. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's nice. Man.
Speaker 5: We we've lost out a lot here, but I have
Speaker 5: enjoyed talking to you.
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed talking to mess to me, to Tim. Is
Speaker 2: there anything else you want to say to the people
Speaker 2: of the computer.
Speaker 5: Oh, how long? People of the computer.
Speaker 6: I wish you well in your adventure and finding your
Speaker 6: inner peace and out of pace and being happy along
Speaker 6: the road to that.
Speaker 2: I have regress to the night, nice contemplative conversation to
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