WEBVTT - “I GOT DUMPED FOR AN INTERNET GF”

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<v Speaker 1>Paul from Jen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hi Jen, is that you? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>This is Jen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jen, it's an honor, a privilege, and an honor

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to you. How's it gone?

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<v Speaker 3>Not that great?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Do you want to talk about it? Or do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about something else to distract from it?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess I kind of want to get

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<v Speaker 3>your input on it, to be honest. So, like, I

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<v Speaker 3>just recently went through a breakup, and so this guy

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<v Speaker 3>I was with for seven years actually left me for

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<v Speaker 3>someone he says he met online that he met like

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<v Speaker 3>in two weeks, and she actually lives in a different

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<v Speaker 3>country on top of that, so it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>hard to get over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the thing. When a guy says he met

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<v Speaker 2>a woman on the internet in a foreign country, there's

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, realistically, I could give a funnier number,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna give a realistic number, A tw fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>percent chance twenty twenty twenty. All people meet each other

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<v Speaker 2>online pretty frequently these days, twenty percent chance she's not

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<v Speaker 2>a real person.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy because, like throughout our breakup, he kept saying that,

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<v Speaker 3>like he's never fell in love like the one he

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<v Speaker 3>has with her. And like all he could really think

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<v Speaker 3>of is imagining her face and her voice while he

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<v Speaker 3>was at work and mine to you be like, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, seven years together, he had a ring, he

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<v Speaker 3>was ready to propose, we were like planning on having

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<v Speaker 3>kids to I'm just like, what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that things

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work out. Man, hmmm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, It's definitely one of those things because like he

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<v Speaker 3>told me too, that he told his parents before me

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<v Speaker 3>that he was going to break up with me out

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<v Speaker 3>of the blue.

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<v Speaker 2>He told his parents before you that he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to break up with you. Yeah, how long ago was

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<v Speaker 2>all this?

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<v Speaker 3>This was like the week of Thanksgiving on top of

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<v Speaker 3>all that.

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<v Speaker 2>What have you been doing since?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely still going through it emotionally because you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>this is someone who I thought I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>build a life with, and you know, he was very

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<v Speaker 3>like emotionally abusive throughout the whole process, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like different, completely different person from what I meant.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's definitely like something you would think that

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<v Speaker 3>you would probably be like, you know what, like I

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<v Speaker 3>need to move on, Like this is not who I

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<v Speaker 3>was with, But you know, when you plan a future

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<v Speaker 3>with someone's kind of hard to forget all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, life's fucking crazy, it really is. Yeah, it's fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm oh, I'm like it's so hard

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<v Speaker 2>to uh, I guess, like trust people, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean you should be able to,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely, yeah, Because like it really was like someone ripping

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<v Speaker 3>a rug from underneath you kind of scenario because it

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<v Speaker 3>just happened out of nowhere, and like he was just like,

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<v Speaker 3>we need a break up. I'm not in love with you,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, I want to break up with you

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<v Speaker 3>before I meet the one, before I can open my

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<v Speaker 3>heart to someone. Mind you be he's already talking to

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<v Speaker 3>someone these last those last two weeks, well going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well look here's the thing, And I know it's hard.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a difficult perspective to tap into it at

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<v Speaker 2>this very moment. But it's it's like these like breakups

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<v Speaker 2>and ship they're kind of always a good thing mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>because like you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna be,

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<v Speaker 2>if you gonna marry a fucking guy and have kids

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<v Speaker 2>and get a house and really just you know, do

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<v Speaker 2>a intertwine your existences and you know, with a kid

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<v Speaker 2>and just just really fuck your lives together, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a Barbie and a Ken Doll. Right then then

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<v Speaker 2>then it should be somebody who's who's who's sure about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And if if this guy is not sure about you,

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<v Speaker 2>then it's I think it's a good thing that you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a it's a it's quite a relief.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that you know, at least this happened, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the timing of this is a lot fucking better than

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been. And it could have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't want to be you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to have this conversation after Thanksgiving dinner

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<v Speaker 2>with the whole family and kids house, Right, So I

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<v Speaker 2>mean count that as a as as a good aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of all of this, even though there's there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you're I'm sure you're in a state of turmoil.

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<v Speaker 2>What so I I look, I know it's all fresh,

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<v Speaker 2>but are we are we gonna? Are we gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>find ourselves? Of fucking European hunk? Now he's got his.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I obviously like I'm not like him. So like

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<v Speaker 3>seven years. To me, it's seven years, so like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still madly in love even though he's freed me over.

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<v Speaker 3>But like on top of all this, you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to find this girl's number to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to her, I ended up finding out he was talking

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<v Speaker 3>to a dude back in August, and me and this

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<v Speaker 3>guy started talking, and he apparently told this guy that

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<v Speaker 3>he's been single for three years and that my car

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<v Speaker 3>was his car, and all these stuff that I bought him,

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<v Speaker 3>Like was apparently think he bought himself, when that's not

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<v Speaker 3>even true. So he was trying to select at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He was flexing. He's a little gay and he's got

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<v Speaker 2>an international lady.

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<v Speaker 3>I yeah, everyone, well, how how how old is this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>How is this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>He's twenty eight?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's going through like a he's you know what

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<v Speaker 2>is unfortunate. He's going through a midlife crisis. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>people think. People think midlife crisises happened at like fifty,

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<v Speaker 2>but no one lives to one hundred. That's ridiculous. This

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<v Speaker 2>guy's probably gonna you know, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people die at sixty. I don't know when this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna die. I'm not gonna say anything, but it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like he's going through a crazy midlife crisis or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because everyone was telling me that, like are you

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<v Speaker 3>sure he's not drugs or something or what is he doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Because like it's just so weird, because like he was

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<v Speaker 3>literally all of a sudden being a homophobe like towards

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<v Speaker 3>the end, and so I'm thinking, like maybe he's like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't find himself sexually, like I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 3>like it's just such a weird scenario. Like in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like a movie, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>You said he was being a homophobe towards the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like you know, we went to the gym and

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<v Speaker 3>like one day and like he came coming out of

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<v Speaker 3>the bathroom and I'm so pissed, and he was like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe like all these people are doing rich

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<v Speaker 3>in the sauna and I'm like, dude, like dropping, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to look like if they're doing their stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and go like blessing, be right.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like he was. It sounds you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy is like you know what, I feel bad because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to get I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm about to say is giving him the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of the doubt. But it sounds as though this guy like, ah, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know. I don't know how confident

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<v Speaker 2>I am about to say. But he was like he

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to do the thing. He wanted to stick

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<v Speaker 2>with the plane, he wanted to stick with the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he started having all these like gay thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>and he started he met this girl in Guatemala, and

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<v Speaker 2>just life started to overtake and he tried to fight

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit, and that's why he was going

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<v Speaker 2>off on these people in the sauna and shit. But

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<v Speaker 2>but it just it, it took him in. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why all those things are happening. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why he felt this crazy desire to make like,

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<v Speaker 2>uh a left turn and and and and discuss, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>discover things about himself that maybe he he he hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>dived into previously. And it's it's a fucking damn shame

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<v Speaker 2>that you are an innocent, uh, casualty in all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, But whatever that's for his therapy, get

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<v Speaker 2>go call this is yours.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's funny too, because like I actually took this

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<v Speaker 3>guy to confront him because he wanted closure and why

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<v Speaker 3>he ghosted him. So we when we confronted him about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait wait you wait. So the guy wait wait,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that he was flirting with you and him

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<v Speaker 2>got together to confront your ex.

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<v Speaker 3>He knew where we lived because he googled his name,

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<v Speaker 3>so he knew where we lived. He knew the apartment number, everything.

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<v Speaker 3>He just asked if it was cool, if he can

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<v Speaker 3>meet up. Then I was like, sure, that's fucking nuts, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you just that's what I'm saying. It's like a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened when you confronted him and his wife and

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<v Speaker 2>the guy from uh that he's cheating on her with

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<v Speaker 2>fucking show up? What did he say?

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<v Speaker 3>So we showed up at his dad's house because he

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<v Speaker 3>would not come over to the apartment anymore, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we knocked on the door and I told him, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I brought you a friend. So he like

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<v Speaker 3>he looked all surprised, and then he pretty much told

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<v Speaker 3>the guy like the guy didn't not want to even

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<v Speaker 3>look at him, and he told the guy like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, we had cool conversations. It was all cool,

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<v Speaker 3>but then just the thought of doing anything with you

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<v Speaker 3>just disgusted me.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he said that to the guy that he was

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<v Speaker 2>started with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, wild right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, listen back to you. What's your name again, Jen?

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<v Speaker 3>Jen?

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<v Speaker 1>Jen?

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<v Speaker 2>Back to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Jen?

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<v Speaker 2>When's the last time he talked to your ex?

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<v Speaker 3>This was on maybe like two weeks ago on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>because we made plans on him taking up his stuff

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<v Speaker 3>from storage and while my brother went with me because

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<v Speaker 3>this is when he was having a screaming battle with

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<v Speaker 3>me on the song about me being a psycho and

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<v Speaker 3>being crazy and all this stuff. Because I told his

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<v Speaker 3>current girlfriend, now they're official, I told her, hey, like

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<v Speaker 3>if you really know the truth about him, like these

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<v Speaker 3>are all the things that were leading up to the breakup,

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<v Speaker 3>and like we were still seeing each other and sleeping

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<v Speaker 3>with each other. And she was like, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what he told me he was single. Why are you

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<v Speaker 3>making it like my fam. I'm like, I'm not blaming you,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you what happened towards the end. And so

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<v Speaker 3>he got all upset and called me and started screaming

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<v Speaker 3>at me. And then that's when he was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>need to take my stuff out of storage, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he shows up to storage with cops because he

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<v Speaker 3>wanted the engagement ring back as well. So I gated

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<v Speaker 3>back to him, and I was just kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>wearded out because this is a guy too who's apparently

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<v Speaker 3>like hates the cops, but he's been calling the cops

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<v Speaker 3>lately on me.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And this is a guy too that says he's

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<v Speaker 3>going through a spiritual journey because he wants to connect

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<v Speaker 3>to God.

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<v Speaker 2>What is he going to, like live with this woman

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<v Speaker 2>in her country or is she coming to the US?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. He can't afford a plane ticket to

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<v Speaker 3>the Philippines to go see her, so I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what his plans are.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look again, I'll say that's for that guy's therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>Getto call what so? I mean you and you guys

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<v Speaker 2>don't okay, And you guys don't have any kids or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and you never were married, so there's no divorce. Crazy crap.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, No, So what do you let me ask

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<v Speaker 2>you this jen seven years? What's something you just ended?

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<v Speaker 2>This one thing? What's something you always wanted to do

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<v Speaker 2>but you couldn't because you had this boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 3>I really wanted to work in the music business, and

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely will admit I kind of put that on

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<v Speaker 3>the back burner because of him and his insecurities, and

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<v Speaker 3>so like right now, like I want to try to

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<v Speaker 3>refocus myself on that again, but it's you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>still feels fresh and like the holidays are happening, so

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<v Speaker 3>it just even sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>What were his insecurities about you working in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the music industry?

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<v Speaker 3>So I had friends in bands and you know, stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that, So it's just as insecurities as like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're around all these guys eyes and like, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what if they hit on you? Stuff. And I told him, like,

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<v Speaker 3>if I wanted to be with someone like that, I

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<v Speaker 3>could have. I have had the opportunity, but a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of them aren't really the best boyfriend materials, and like

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't see myself with someone like that, but he

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<v Speaker 3>just couldn't get over it.

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<v Speaker 2>M So, are you going to try to pursue something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the process of continuing my career path on that,

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<v Speaker 3>but is just you know, I'm living in a fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>land right now where like we would get back together,

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<v Speaker 3>even though in my mind I know it's not the

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<v Speaker 3>best idea in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. I.

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<v Speaker 2>I look, you were with this guy for seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>You planned a whole life with him. I understand why,

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<v Speaker 2>And this only happens like a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds so I understand while you're living in fantasyland.

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<v Speaker 2>From my perspective and the perspective of the people listening,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, why would you ever want to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>this guy again? But I'm not. I'm not. I won't

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<v Speaker 2>be ignorant enough not to understand that, yes, you were

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<v Speaker 2>with him for seven years and that that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a while. But I'm fairly confident that after some

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<v Speaker 2>time you will join the side of defence that I

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<v Speaker 2>and the people listening likely are sitting on when they

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<v Speaker 2>when they view this relationship. Yeah, but this is exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, okay, you want to work in

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<v Speaker 2>the music industry? Is there anything else?

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<v Speaker 3>Just pretty much traveling, to be honest, because that's something

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<v Speaker 3>I still have planned and you know we both have

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<v Speaker 3>planned it. But like at this point, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to stop just because I'm not with him anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, please, dear God, oh my God, the best thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing you could possibly do is if you

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<v Speaker 2>and your partner had travel plans together, don't cancel him

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<v Speaker 2>go where'd you get? Where are you planning?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've always wanted to go to Spain, you know, Hawaii,

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<v Speaker 3>like just places like that, like you know, adventuring, go.

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<v Speaker 2>To Spain, go to Hawaii. There's hot, there's hot. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, jen, the hunk population of Hawaii, it's about

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred thousands, you know, just go by yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>and and get hunked.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, just see what he is? You know, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>just sucks. But you know, I don't know how people

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<v Speaker 3>can just get over a relationship, especially.

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<v Speaker 2>After it's not gonna I understand. I'm just I'm I'm I.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm ignorant to your your particular don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I think I think eventually, hopefully time

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<v Speaker 2>will will heal the wounds, you know, time hunks hunks,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll Yeah, But are you still are you still friends

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<v Speaker 2>with the with the with the guy like the.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy he was hitting Funny, that guy just hits

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<v Speaker 3>me up to see like if I'm in contact with

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<v Speaker 3>my ex and if I have his number, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of just erased him off my phone because

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<v Speaker 3>it just seemed like he's still won't isn't over whatever

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<v Speaker 3>happened between them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I kind of think, I mean listen, I mean, Jen,

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<v Speaker 2>call me crazy, but I think that YouTube might be

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<v Speaker 2>needing to plan a trip to Hawaii. Now that would

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<v Speaker 2>be tell me, that wouldn't be a movie. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>movie right there. You that guy going to Hawaii getting

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<v Speaker 2>hunked out. That's a movie right there that I would watch.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have to figure out the script.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a Jett Appatow movie. You you're Leslie Man, who's

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<v Speaker 2>the guy whatever? Who cares? Anyway? Well, Jen, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you how do you? How do you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>How do I what?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel great after this conversation. I mean, like I

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<v Speaker 3>definitely you know, needed to let it out because it's

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<v Speaker 3>funny because he actually introduced me to you to like

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<v Speaker 3>your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I hope that when you think of this part,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that now that you have been introduced and

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<v Speaker 2>he's in the Philippines and he's listening to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>other crazy podcasts, I hope I hope that you can

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<v Speaker 2>associate this podcast yourself with it not being associated with him,

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<v Speaker 2>so that you can keep listening and maybe buy a

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<v Speaker 2>T shirt from my merch store at therapy Gecko dot

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<v Speaker 2>com at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure, that's on my Christmas list.

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<v Speaker 2>Jane, is there anything else you want to say to

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<v Speaker 2>the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, thanks for all your guys' advice, for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>because I definitely need it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, take care, Jen.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, Thank you, hunk City All from.

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Omar?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this Omar?

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<v Speaker 4>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Omar? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Just ship getting high? Playing City star lives, making like

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<v Speaker 4>little people move around the only.

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<v Speaker 2>Screen you're playing?

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<v Speaker 4>What that game is? Like? Fucking sim City and just

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<v Speaker 4>like make cities sounds. It's sucking sick.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting high and playing SimCity?

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<v Speaker 4>Hell? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? What made you want to interrupt such a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>life experience just to call me?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I wanted to hear what you have

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<v Speaker 4>to say about life. You seem pretty wise, but someone I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to hear what I have to say about life?

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<v Speaker 2>What do I have to say about life? Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder sometimes I'm I've been going back, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been think about a lot, but going back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth about whether life is easy or hard? Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Because sometimes I'm like, wait, this is this is easy,

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<v Speaker 2>and then other times I'm like, wait, this is really hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get born into an easy life or a

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<v Speaker 4>hard life?

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<v Speaker 2>You say, born into an easy life or a hard life?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Which one did you get? Say? Where are you from?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm from London.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, that's why your phone is a little shitty

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<v Speaker 2>and your accent is a little shitty too, so I

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<v Speaker 2>can sort of only barely understand what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fair enough. I'll try and articulate a little bit harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Okay, So what did you just say?

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<v Speaker 4>Did you get an easy life or a hard one?

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<v Speaker 4>Which one did you get born into?

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun to make fun of British people because you

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<v Speaker 2>know they're also just white, all right? So oh fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry did you get did you get an easy life

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<v Speaker 4>or did you get a hard one? Which one did

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<v Speaker 4>you get born into? It?

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<v Speaker 2>Born into?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean fu comparatively easy? God damn. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>depends on it depends on uh uh, your perspective, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all my I mean, because look, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the right the bar for an easy life

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<v Speaker 2>to me in consideration to all of the lives that

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<v Speaker 2>are out there, is like if if you're born into

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<v Speaker 2>a life where, like, you know, your parents don't beat

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<v Speaker 2>the shit out of you, and you can eat food

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<v Speaker 2>and drink water, that's pretty good. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's necessarily easy, but it's just pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. Yeah, it's pretty sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>What about you? What do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I hell, yeah, dude, I'm privileged out. I got

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<v Speaker 4>a three life. I grew up in Asia now I

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<v Speaker 4>live in London. I'm living it up, living that dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you from? Where in Asia are you from?

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<v Speaker 4>No? I grew up in Singapore.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I've heard of Singapore. Singapore is? Singapore is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rich, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's pretty cool when you're under eighteen, it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it cool when you're under eighteen but not

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<v Speaker 2>cool when you're over.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighteen Cause you can have like a fun sheltered time now,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can go like cringe clubbing and shait. But

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<v Speaker 4>when you grow up and you want to like do

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<v Speaker 4>some cool shit like my weed and stuff, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>do any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. So you just said, yeah, living in Singapore

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<v Speaker 2>as a minor is cool because you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>the club, but then once you turn eighteen you're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to smoke weed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, you grow up and you want to do

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<v Speaker 4>coolest stuff because you realize club is really lame. But

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<v Speaker 4>you can't do cooler stuff. You can't say weed, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't do drugs. You got to like live that cookie

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<v Speaker 4>cut of corporate lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>Why were you you were clubbing? How old were you

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<v Speaker 2>when you were clubbing?

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<v Speaker 4>You can go clubbing when you're like thirteen fourteen there

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<v Speaker 4>because you're like expat so you like get into places easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Really wait, so are you like so you're telling me

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<v Speaker 2>there are clubs where there's like thirty five year olds

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with thirteen year olds.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, yeah percent, and like what's even with it? At

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<v Speaker 4>the time, it is like you think it's normal that

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<v Speaker 4>they're just like partying with you, getting new drinks, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you grow up and you'reze, how cringe that is

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<v Speaker 4>that this like dude who's like thirty is just like

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<v Speaker 4>hanging out with eighteen year olds? Thinking as cool as fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>When you liked makes oup where to go in high school?

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<v Speaker 2>Goddamn? So how old were you? How old were you

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<v Speaker 2>when you left Singapore?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I left when I was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you ever go back?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I used to go back when my parents said there,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't go back anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still club Where are you now? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>in London? Are in London?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No? No, not really. I get a gig, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't go clubbing. I'm older now, I'm like thirty,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's like a bit, you know, more chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do with your life? Omar?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a YouTuber?

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<v Speaker 2>Are a YouTuber? Are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>A YouTube? Has gotten so niche and so I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're You're a niche YouTube? You you're a weed

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<v Speaker 2>and sim City YouTuber those that's your nie?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, no, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>You did a review on specifically the best strains to

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<v Speaker 2>smoke while playing SimCity, that's your No.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I wish that was myself.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hey sports, Just so you know, if you want,

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<v Speaker 2>you can have that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to here, dude. It's illegal here. It's illegal

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<v Speaker 4>and I think I'll get demonetized if I do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Really? Is we weeds?

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<v Speaker 4>Not?

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<v Speaker 2>Is we legal in London?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Everyone smokes weed, but it's all see.

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<v Speaker 2>You're saying you're breaking the law right now?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, are you breaking a little fatually? If you

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<v Speaker 4>say weeds O? You're in Canada?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think I was? I'm not in Canaday?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think I was in?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? I don't know, that's what You're in? Galla? Who

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<v Speaker 4>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm oh? Mar? I got a question? Is there? And

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>it's okay if not. I'm enjoying talking to you. We

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 2>can talk about all kinds of things. But is there

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 2>a particular thing you wanted to talk about on the phone.

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, man, There's a few things going on,

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 4>but I don't know if I want to talk about them online.

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 4>You know. What I've been playing with though recently, is

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:38.400
<v Speaker 4>like when you realize that you know nothing really means anything,

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of hard to get psyched to do anything.

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 4>Like like I get that, like you know, the end

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 4>game is that you're just enjoying every moment as it comes,

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 4>because that's really all you get. You don't get the future,

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 4>you don't get the past. You just get now, right,

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 4>But like, I don't know, when you do that forever,

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 4>it feels reckless and you're like, damn, in like ten

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 4>years time, I'm gonna fucked up because all I was

0:27:06.119 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 4>doing it's focusing on the present.

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Is your version of focusing on the present getting high

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 2>and playing sim City?

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 4>No, not all the time?

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>What's your version of focusing on the present?

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I guess heating isthing like I don't know, like going

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 4>out to dinner, going to the pub, getting fucked up?

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 4>All right, shit like that.

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>So you're thirty, right, yeah, do you feel like you

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>fucked up your future?

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 4>No? But I'm worried that I'll get there and it'll

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 4>be too late. You know, you'll figure that out.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what are you doing here?

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 4>All right?

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 2>What do you I mean, what do you like? Give

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 2>me some specifics. What do you think you fucked up?

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's just like, okay, so I'm a YouTube I

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 4>aren't like pretty decent money, but it's like, you know,

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 4>same and popularity that they're not solid things. But all

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 4>my other thirty year old friends they have legit jobs there.

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 4>They're like fucking some of them bankers. They I mean,

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 4>they have a ship time, but they're earning ships on

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 4>the cash. They're locked in for like a future that

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 4>will last for ages, And it's just that security looks

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 4>so sweet, but it's like the price you place that

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 4>is very high, and it's just like, am I making

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 4>the right choice for not doing that? Well?

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Omar, I have good news. If you want to talk

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>about fake jobs, you've come to the right professional Geko.

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Good point. What do you think about the future? Like,

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 4>how are you? How do you are you? Are you

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 4>worried about these things?

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Dude? If you want to know my real answer on this,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I just like am thinking, I've thought about a few things.

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, I'm just right now. I'm just

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>like I do like and I'm gonna get practical with

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 2>you right now. I'm just like, Okay, let me like

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>save as much money as possible so that, yeah, you know,

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 2>I can like have a nice cushion before I, you know,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 2>ever have to get a real job if I ever do.

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 2>But and I think about that a lot. I think

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>about the future. I think about like, oh man, when

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>am I gonna you know, I I because you know, right,

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>we're in the same but I have no security in

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 2>what I do really but h and you know, and again, bruh,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I think about this every single day. I'm like, I'm like,

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm I'm twenty I'm almost I'm twenty six

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>next week, and I'm like, what the fuck am I

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 2>going to be doing when I'm like forty? You know,

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 2>am I still gonna be imagine?

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Like, you know, I be squashed? You have the classic

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 4>YouTube is ship. I can't imagine being like a fifty

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 4>year old dude being like yo, I can send off

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 4>a squaes click my link, Like, I just can't imagine

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 4>doing that, right.

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I Mean, here's the thing, though, is I will you

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>you you have to understand that certain things are outside

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>of your control. So for me, I'm like, all right, well,

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>how hard I work is in my control. So that's

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>why you know, I again post clips for my to

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>promote the podcast, and I work really hard to make

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 2>sure that the show is good, and I work as

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>hard as I can to be the best Gecko as

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I can. And uh, outside of that, I mean, none

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 2>of this shit is really in my control. All the

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 2>people listening could be like, hey, you know what, this

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 2>is fucking stupid and turn it off, and you know,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>then I, you know, have to go. But I don't know,

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean I've I've talked when I

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>talk to my friends and family about this kind of thing.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>They always tell me that I'll figure it out, and

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I've started to try to want to believe them that,

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, I have. I feel a certain sense of

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 2>confidence and security and my own brain and my own

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>skills and my own experience that you know, I'll be

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>okay regardless of what happens to the sure I'll figure

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 2>it out. And you know whatever, I mean, if it's

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 2>just if it's purely a money thing, I mean, there's

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 2>a thousand different ways to make money in the in

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>the world, So you know, I'm sure I'll figure out

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 2>uh something, But for now, I'm almost I'm like, you know,

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 2>there's a there's you guys are balancing actor, right, because

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 2>the more I stress out about the future and the

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>more I wonder what the hell I'm gonna be doing

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 2>when I'm thirty seven, the less I'm focused on doing

0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>what on what I'm going to be doing when I

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>am right now alive? You know, So I'm like robbing

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 2>from Yeah, I'm like, I'm robbing from my present geckoss

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 2>to think about, you know, how I'm gonna afford to

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 2>eat food when I'm you know, forty five. So uh,

0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, I I don't know. I don't. I think

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 2>about this stuff all the time. I mean, what do

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 2>you think?

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean? I thinking about it all the time too.

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 4>It's like, to be honest, I'm just we like. It

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 4>also starts to play back to this thing where like

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, people like, oh you have on your own

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 4>is your memories? Because I don't even like really know

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 4>if my memory is even legit?

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you do?

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, You're like you trying to

0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 4>recall something? You know? Am I even remembering that? Is

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 4>this just like some boss? It's like right where else

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 4>I going at that point, because it's like, you know,

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 4>when you're living in the now, you're trying to create

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 4>create memories for later, so you like have a really

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 4>good life in your head. But it's like I don't

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 4>really remember those things. So it's like I'm living for

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 4>the now, but the now it's literally just as my bleeding.

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, really weird, A is there any reason

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 4>why I'm putting happy into this? Now? I've kind of

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 4>lost my point. But basically it's fucking complicated and I

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 4>can't figure it out.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. So I mean, well here's here, there's another

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>aspect of all this stuff that I was thinking about.

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if this is true. I don't

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>know if I agree with this, but it's a thought

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 2>that I've explored in my head, which is that kind

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>of bro in general, security is like kind of a myth.

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I agree with that, but but

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I do. I do think about it. I mean, think

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>about the pandemic. Right, like a bunch of people who

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>like had you know, quote, real stable jobs just got

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.959
<v Speaker 2>fucking fired, you know, and you know, layoffs happen all

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the time. People get with real secure jobs get fucking fired.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>And hey, besides even that, people get people who are

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>in like good health have fucking brain aneurysms and die

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>when they're fifty. And people get into car accidents and

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 2>die when they're thirty, even though they had security and

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 2>they had good health and this and that. So so

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean security, it's like you can you can get

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>pretty short that everything's gonna be okay, but that's that's

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>like the best you could never you could never be

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent sure that everything's gonna be okay. You

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>is never unless if you like, stayed inside your room

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>and eight lettuce and did push ups and never left

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>and anything. But you can't live like that. And even

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 2>if you did look like that, you'd only get to like,

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, ninety percent sure that everything's gonna be okay.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 2>But even but that version of life is not things

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 2>being okay. So I you know, security does feel like

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>a myth in that way. You can never be one

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent sure that everything's gonna be okay. And so

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>to that point, I kind of surrender thinking about it,

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like if I if I'm

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 2>never gonna be one hundred percent sure that everything's gonna

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>be okay, then why the what's the fucking point of

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>worrying about if things are gonna be okay?

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, se man, you just you know, you just

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 4>like let go with the flow. But that's not an

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 4>active mentality you have to maintain like it's norse. It's

0:34:58.160 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 4>not passive, you know.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course no I'm talking about I'm talking a

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>bunch of ship to you right now. But you know,

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 2>after the stream is over, I'm gonna be like, what's

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>my YouTube revenue for this for this uh month? And

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 2>how am I.

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 4>Gonna bro I I I created a straight up. It

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 4>was like driving me instead, right, right right.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, huh, Well what am I allowed to ask you

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 2>what your YouTube channel is? Or are you trying to

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>remain anonymous?

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's bouldering.

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:33.479
<v Speaker 2>What dude, what did you just say?

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:39.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, bouldering just such, boba, you'll find us rock.

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Climbing, bouldering, bullbark.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 4>The b o b a t.

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 2>B o b a t oh bulbering, Man, you got

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 2>you got it bro bulbering, bulbart.

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 4>Just talking in complete, You'll be fine.

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, it's nice talking me.

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I don't have all that many people

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 2>who I know that do actually know I have a

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>good you know, I wish I could talk to I

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 2>wish I had more people to talk to about having

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>a fake funny job.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too. Man. It's like it's it's leading. Everyone's

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 4>all serious, and it's like, can someone else, Like my

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 4>parents have no idea what I did. Your parents know

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 4>what you do?

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, but like they understand it to fine understand.

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 4>Like your fucking parents fully understand how he dressed them

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 4>as a gecko because of the casting your back down.

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 2>My parents understand that I dress up as a gecko

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and talk to people on the phone and uh do

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 2>tours and make videos and stuff. Fad Ugh, my dad

0:36:57.760 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>used to be in the chat, but I don't think

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 2>he's in the chat anymore. Wait, there's a couple. There's

0:37:02.520 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 2>like a dude and the wait, there's a dude in

0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 2>my chat right now who says he watches you?

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh? Hell yeah, what's up?

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>That's cool? How many subs do you have?

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>Now that's sick?

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 2>Are you happy? Are you still?

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 4>We're kind of like, you know, what're like on the

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, when your channel was like peaking before. We're

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 4>on like the down end of our peak. But that's okay.

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.439
<v Speaker 4>We we opened the gym in real life.

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Open you opened the gym.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 4>In real life? Yeah, because we didn't want to run

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 4>on YouTube, so we were like we need to make

0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:38.839
<v Speaker 4>something brick and mortar. So we we opened the gym

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:39.240
<v Speaker 4>in London.

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's see, that's something I want to do. I

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 2>want to I want to diversify my life, you know, like,

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, I love I love doing the podcast and

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 2>the podcast is sick, but I'm like, oh what else

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>could I also I'm thinking about that, I'm like, what

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>could I do in real life? That's like, you know, it.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Keeps like the It keeps like the creativity fresh as well.

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 4>Doing ship in different aspects that all that kind of related.

0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 4>It like helps you just get ship coming out of

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 4>your mind.

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>That's how I feel like. Ah what oh he hung up?

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Well that sucks. Well wow, that's a real bummer way

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>to end that call. Hold on, let me see if

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:26.439
<v Speaker 2>I can get him back. No, I don't think I can.

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>But that's okay. We were on the We were on

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the much as he much as he said we we

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>we had peaked much as he said he had peaked

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 2>in his channel. I think we had peaked in that call.

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 2>That was a good call. Shout out to what's his

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 2>name again, Bobert, Bouldering Bobert. Shout out to Bouldering Bobert.

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 2>That's good talking to you. Let's collab. Should we do

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>a collab? But what did he say he what kind

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 2>of stuff did he say he makes? I'll go to

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>his gym, That's what we'll do, Bobering Bobert. If you

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 2>hear this, I'll go to your gym in London and

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:07.239
<v Speaker 2>we'll make a video. Maybe depends on how strenuous you

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 2>want the activity to be. All right, thanks for calling, Bobert.

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Hey folks, it's Lyle. So we have reached the end

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 2>of the phone call portion of this podcast because I

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 2>wanted to end with an excerpt from this video that

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I just put out on my YouTube channel today, So

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to give some context, I was in Australia on tour

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 2>over the summer and one day I went to the

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.240
<v Speaker 2>beach in my gecko suit and I filmed a video

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:44.240
<v Speaker 2>just running around talking to various strangers on the peer

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 2>of this beach in the same freeform way that I

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 2>talked to callers on this podcast, and the conversation that

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>you're about to hear now is probably my favorite one

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 2>from that day. So I had already been filming for

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>like four hours. It was nighttime. I was done. I

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.720
<v Speaker 2>put my camera away and I was just walking around

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and this dude on the docks starts asking me why

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I am walking along the water in a frog costume,

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 2>which is a good question, and we started talking and

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.600
<v Speaker 2>he told me he's taking a walk to clear his mind.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 2>So I asked him what he's trying to clear his

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>mind from, and we just got into this very open,

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 2>honest conversation as two complete total strangers on a pier

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 2>at night and it was really cool, so I wanted

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 2>to share it on here. So let us transport to

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 2>the docks of Saint Kilda Beach in Melbourne, Australia to

0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 2>talk to a stranger. I walk around as a gecko

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and I just try to I'm like going on little adventures,

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying?

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? And then what people lock your adventures?

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess sometimes.

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.240
<v Speaker 2>What's your name? Man, Nice to meet you, Tim. What

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 2>what brings you out to the docks this evening?

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 5>Why wouldn't you be out here?

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Look, it's beautiful, It is beautiful. So you were saying

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>to me before I turned this on that you were

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 2>just going on a walk to like clear your head

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 5>Of course, what.

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Kind of stuff do you or you can't think of?

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 5>Experience anxiety while you walk? Yeah, there's a little known

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 5>staff and I've got a big footy game.

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 6>My team's playing tonight, so I've want to try and

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 6>relax before that.

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>What's been like stress?

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I've.

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:40.160
<v Speaker 6>Been working up in Broken Hill for three months and

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 6>then I came back and worked three days this week

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 6>after a ten hour drive. And now that's over. Relationship over,

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 6>moved back in my house. Yeah, it's a change, So

0:41:58.800 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 6>you need.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>To what what you what were you working at?

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:02.399
<v Speaker 4>What were you doing?

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 5>I was a medical advisor on a medical TV show.

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, So now that that's over, what's uh what

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 2>do you think you're going to do now?

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 5>That's why I'm out here?

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And you said there was

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>there was a relationship. What how long were you guys

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:24.399
<v Speaker 2>together for a nice man? What do you think you're

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.879
<v Speaker 2>going to like go out on the dating scene again

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 2>or are you going to wait a little bit?

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I definitely had a bit of time for the

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 6>dust as hittle. Yeah, and then and then see what's

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 6>out there?

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 2>What do you think makes like a good relationship?

0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 5>It's a good question.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 6>Used to always just be raw attraction was the most

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 6>important thing. But but then if you've got that but

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 6>no great human qualities, something to admire, yeah, something to

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 6>bring your joy, yeah, and a good sense of humor,

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:04.799
<v Speaker 6>then you don't have much.

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 2>It's hard because raw traction, it can, it brings, it

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 2>brings the two people together, but it doesn't glue them.

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you think there was something that you learned from

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:16.879
<v Speaker 2>it at all?

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 5>The recent finish one?

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just to.

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 6>If something's not right, then then acknowledge it and talk

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 6>about it.

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess not.

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 6>Not just internalizing everything and then because it won't it

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 6>won't go away. You need to You need to find

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 6>a way to express yourself and be receptive to the

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 6>other person's perspective. And then if both of those things happen,

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 6>you might be able to work it out but and

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 6>make that relationship work. But you also might quickly be

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.760
<v Speaker 6>able to finish it and end it and then find

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 6>something with someone else that does have that missing ingredient.

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 5>That was troubling you with the last person.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Are you Are you good at like being alone?

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm pretty comfortable, but I think I'm ready not to.

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Be fifty of like a good good friends and family

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Yeah.

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, although all my friends and family are sort of

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 5>more involved with their own families.

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 7>At this stage in life, so it's there's you know,

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 7>there's a few out there, but it's not like it

0:44:55.920 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 7>was when we're teens and twenties and everyone's in the same.

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Boat, right right. Do you do you do you have

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 2>kids or do you want you?

0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you keep in touch with like your

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:11.919
<v Speaker 2>your parents or your parents still around?

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:18.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm talking to them ballet with them tomorrow.

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's cool, man, that's nice.

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 5>You have my birthday dinner on Sunday.

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh your birthday is this weekend. Have a birthday man,

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 4>Well.

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 2>How do you like when you how do you feel

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 2>about your birthday? Like?

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Is it?

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Is it a happy occasion or is it like a

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>time for reflection?

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so it's a bit of both. Definitely the latter.

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 5>And that's what again while I'm here, Yeah, I didn't

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 5>mention it early, but.

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 6>It's yeah, I guess you've there's got to be a

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 6>time in the year when you take stock and like

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 6>everyone does it a bit at Christmas or whatever, but

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 6>it's a more personal stock taking moment when it's your birthday,

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.280
<v Speaker 6>I think, And particularly as you get a bit older,

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 6>it's in and you're closer to the end and the start,

0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 6>you become more cognizant of all the of what's important

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:20.399
<v Speaker 6>and time and who you are and where you're going.

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you feel like the ride so far?

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Has it? Has it been a good Has it been

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 2>a good.

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Ride so far?

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Definitely? And I don't want to let the poll of

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 5>recent events sort of sour o the so my view

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 5>of the forty three almost forty three years.

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 4>To now.

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 5>But I've been very lucky and I should be very grateful.

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 2>What what do you feel like has been the best

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 2>part of the raid so far? Like the stuff you're

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the most grateful for?

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 5>It's a good question.

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:06.479
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I've had some amazing people in my life,

0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 6>and I've just had a lot of opportunities to do

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 6>things too, to study things, to to play sports and

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 6>music and express myself artistically, and.

0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 5>Those moments which you.

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.920
<v Speaker 6>Don't get a lot and you realize as life goes on,

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, it's just not going to keep happening. But

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.879
<v Speaker 6>I've had a lot of those and there will be more.

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 6>Sometimes you just got to make it happen a bit more.

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 6>And I guess I'm reflecting on that. How do you

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 6>make things happen? And when do you let things happen?

0:47:50.040 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. Do you do you feel as though with

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>every passing year, like things happen naturally a little bit

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 2>us and there's a little bit more of a kick

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 2>to have to make them happen.

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Yeah, it's definitely the wheels turn And I guess

0:48:13.320 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 5>as if you get a bit creakier and older. You

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 5>have to make them turn.

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 6>As the years go by, they don't just it's less

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 6>downhill skiing, more cross country?

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Does any Does anything get better as the years go by?

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Like what anything particular you notice is getting better?

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 5>There is something about experience and wisdom that means you can.

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 6>Enjoy things from outside a bit more, Like you can

0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 6>look at a situation and appreciate it.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 5>Without being caught up in it as much.

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, because you've been because because you feel like you've

0:48:58.040 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>been there before.

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you've been there. You've got some conspection.

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and.

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes that's yeah, is a bit of a shadow.

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 6>But I think with that knowledge and awareness, there's some

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 6>satisfaction and you can't you just don't. You don't get

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 6>that from when you're there, you're coming up, you're doing

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 6>it for the first time.

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Right, there's a little bit more emotion and raw anxiety

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 2>because it's it's new.

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.279
<v Speaker 5>And then then maybe there's more adrenaline there too, but.

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, yeah, more adrenaline, but that's not everything.

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:44.360
<v Speaker 6>And as you get older and you know, windows close, well,

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 6>there's more closed windows and open windows. Sometimes it's good

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 6>because you sort of accept that you're not going to

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 6>be able to do everything in this life, and that

0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 6>acceptance has some.

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 5>Well when you when you resign to that fact, there's

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 5>some pace.

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I think so too, because like there's this there's a

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>weird stress to like want to fucking do everything that

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 2>there is to do, and then if you're not doing it,

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like you're beating yourself up about it. But then

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 2>as you get as you kind of realize just you're

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be able to there's an acceptance and with

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 2>that acceptance, that anxiety, that beating yourself up about not

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 2>fucking doing everything, ever, it goes away a little bit.

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of this kind of kind of nice because

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know, I don't know if you

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:38.879
<v Speaker 2>have to do everything. Sometimes just standing looking at cool

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 2>buildings is like that's it. You know, it's good enough.

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 2>What do you what do you you're talking about, like

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff you want to make happen? What is what is

0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 2>it that you want to make happen?

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 6>Well, you've got to make a family happen. You go

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.480
<v Speaker 6>to you've got to make a career happen.

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 5>You've got to.

0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, I sort of move from dance for to

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:05.320
<v Speaker 6>dance floor rather than stay in the same venue and

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 6>make that my permanent fixture. So I've got to find

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 6>a place and stays my It's the thing I've.

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 5>Got to make happen.

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:20.320
<v Speaker 2>How long have you been on this dance floor.

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<v Speaker 6>For I've been back from another dance floor for a week,

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<v Speaker 6>not quite a week. And now I'm gonna go overseas

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<v Speaker 6>and that'll be another dance floor.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh where are you gonna go? London, Portugal and Spain.

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<v Speaker 2>Sick, what are you doing there?

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<v Speaker 5>My friend's fortieth Oh cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Man and.

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<v Speaker 5>Her twin sister and yeah, just get out of the cold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're still good. You're going on a venture

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<v Speaker 2>as you're making that's cool man.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and and and that's great.

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<v Speaker 6>But I also look forward to, you know, something that

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of my friends have, which is security and

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<v Speaker 6>stability and all the things I often think of boring,

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<v Speaker 6>but there they also have.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking to somebody over there about that

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<v Speaker 2>whole conflict between stability and adventure. You know, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's a prevalent thing because because it also

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it ties into all the stuff we've

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<v Speaker 2>been talking because it's like, you want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to do everything and that's like unstable but fun. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there's kind of that acceptance. But with that acceptance

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<v Speaker 2>comes a little bit more stability and security. I think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's nice. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>We we've lost out a lot here, but I have

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<v Speaker 5>enjoyed talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've enjoyed talking to mess to me, to Tim. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there anything else you want to say to the people

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<v Speaker 2>of the computer.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, how long? People of the computer.

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<v Speaker 6>I wish you well in your adventure and finding your

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<v Speaker 6>inner peace and out of pace and being happy along

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<v Speaker 6>the road to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have regress to the night, nice contemplative conversation to

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<v Speaker 2>have under the beautiful lights of Melbourne, Australia. Good times,

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<v Speaker 2>good day, late to beach. Hey, it's me again. If

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<v Speaker 2>you guys enjoyed that conversation, then please go check out

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<v Speaker 2>the full video on my YouTube channel YouTube dot com

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<v Speaker 2>slash lyle forever. I'll also link the video in the

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<v Speaker 2>episode description of this podcast. Doing these kinds of travel

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<v Speaker 2>videos is something I want to do a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>of in twenty twenty four. So your support in watching

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<v Speaker 2>them and listening to them and liking them and all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff helps me out a lot, because it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>the main direction that I want to go to, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, moving forward is doing a lot more talking

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<v Speaker 2>to people in various real life places. So definitely check

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<v Speaker 2>out the video if you want more of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's also a lot more videos like that on my

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash lyle forever. All right, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for listening to this podcast, and go kiss

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<v Speaker 2>a lion on the paw. It's an expression.

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<v Speaker 4>Really goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 5>Never Beacon goes to what AI's teaching you. Cloud in

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<v Speaker 5>the memorial Life Money is not really an expert