1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Paul from Jen. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi Jen, is that you? Yes? 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 3: This is Jen. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: Well, Jen, it's an honor, a privilege, and an honor 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: to talk to you. How's it gone? 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: Not that great? 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Well? Do you want to talk about it? Or do 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: you want to talk about something else to distract from it? 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I kind of want to get 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: your input on it, to be honest. So, like, I 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 3: just recently went through a breakup, and so this guy 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: I was with for seven years actually left me for 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: someone he says he met online that he met like 14 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 3: in two weeks, and she actually lives in a different 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: country on top of that, so it's kind of like 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: hard to get over it. 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. When a guy says he met 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: a woman on the internet in a foreign country, there's 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, realistically, I could give a funnier number, 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna give a realistic number, A tw fifteen 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: percent chance twenty twenty twenty. All people meet each other 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: online pretty frequently these days, twenty percent chance she's not 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: a real person. 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: It's crazy because, like throughout our breakup, he kept saying that, 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: like he's never fell in love like the one he 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 3: has with her. And like all he could really think 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: of is imagining her face and her voice while he 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: was at work and mine to you be like, like 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: I said, seven years together, he had a ring, he 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 3: was ready to propose, we were like planning on having 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: kids to I'm just like, what the fuck? 32 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, I'm sorry, I'm sorry that things 33 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: didn't work out. Man, hmmm hmmm. 34 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's definitely one of those things because like he 35 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: told me too, that he told his parents before me 36 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: that he was going to break up with me out 37 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 3: of the blue. 38 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: He told his parents before you that he was going 39 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: to break up with you. Yeah, how long ago was 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: all this? 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: This was like the week of Thanksgiving on top of 42 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: all that. 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: What have you been doing since? 44 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: Definitely still going through it emotionally because you know, obviously 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: this is someone who I thought I was going to 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: build a life with, and you know, he was very 47 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: like emotionally abusive throughout the whole process, you know, kind 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: of like different, completely different person from what I meant. 49 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: And so it's definitely like something you would think that 50 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: you would probably be like, you know what, like I 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: need to move on, Like this is not who I 52 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: was with, But you know, when you plan a future 53 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: with someone's kind of hard to forget all that. 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: Bro, life's fucking crazy, it really is. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. 55 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm oh, I'm like it's so hard 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: to uh, I guess, like trust people, you know, Like 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean you should be able to, 58 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: but it's hard. 59 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, Because like it really was like someone ripping 60 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: a rug from underneath you kind of scenario because it 61 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: just happened out of nowhere, and like he was just like, 62 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 3: we need a break up. I'm not in love with you, 63 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: and you know, I want to break up with you 64 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: before I meet the one, before I can open my 65 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: heart to someone. Mind you be he's already talking to 66 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: someone these last those last two weeks, well going on. 67 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: Well look here's the thing, And I know it's hard. 68 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: This is a difficult perspective to tap into it at 69 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: this very moment. But it's it's like these like breakups 70 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: and ship they're kind of always a good thing mm hmmm, 71 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: because like you know, if you're gonna if you're gonna be, 72 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: if you gonna marry a fucking guy and have kids 73 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: and get a house and really just you know, do 74 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: a intertwine your existences and you know, with a kid 75 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: and just just really fuck your lives together, you know, 76 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: like a Barbie and a Ken Doll. Right then then 77 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: then it should be somebody who's who's who's sure about you? 78 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: Right? 79 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 80 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: And if if this guy is not sure about you, 81 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: then it's I think it's a good thing that you guys. 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a it's quite a relief. 83 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: I think that you know, at least this happened, you know, 84 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: the timing of this is a lot fucking better than 85 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: it could have been. And it could have been, you know, 86 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: because you don't want to be you don't want to 87 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: you don't want to have this conversation after Thanksgiving dinner 88 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: with the whole family and kids house, Right, So I 89 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: mean count that as a as as a good aspect 90 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: of all of this, even though there's there's you know, 91 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure you're I'm sure you're in a state of turmoil. 92 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: What so I I look, I know it's all fresh, 93 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: but are we are we gonna? Are we gonna go 94 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: find ourselves? Of fucking European hunk? Now he's got his. 95 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: Like I obviously like I'm not like him. So like 96 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: seven years. To me, it's seven years, so like I'm 97 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: still madly in love even though he's freed me over. 98 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: But like on top of all this, you know, when 99 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: I was trying to find this girl's number to talk 100 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: to her, I ended up finding out he was talking 101 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: to a dude back in August, and me and this 102 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: guy started talking, and he apparently told this guy that 103 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: he's been single for three years and that my car 104 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: was his car, and all these stuff that I bought him, 105 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: Like was apparently think he bought himself, when that's not 106 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: even true. So he was trying to select at the 107 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: same time, so. 108 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: He was flexing. He's a little gay and he's got 109 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: an international lady. 110 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: I yeah, everyone, well, how how how old is this guy? 111 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 2: How is this guy? 112 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: He's twenty eight? 113 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: Okay, he's going through like a he's you know what 114 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 2: is unfortunate. He's going through a midlife crisis. That's what 115 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: people think. People think midlife crisises happened at like fifty, 116 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: but no one lives to one hundred. That's ridiculous. This 117 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: guy's probably gonna you know, you know a lot of 118 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: people die at sixty. I don't know when this guy's 119 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: gonna die. I'm not gonna say anything, but it sounds 120 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: like he's going through a crazy midlife crisis or something 121 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: like that. 122 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, because everyone was telling me that, like are you 123 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: sure he's not drugs or something or what is he doing? 124 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: Because like it's just so weird, because like he was 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: literally all of a sudden being a homophobe like towards 126 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: the end, and so I'm thinking, like maybe he's like 127 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: I can't find himself sexually, like I don't know, and 128 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: like it's just such a weird scenario. Like in my head, 129 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: it feels like a movie, but it's not. 130 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: You said he was being a homophobe towards the end. 131 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you know, we went to the gym and 132 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: like one day and like he came coming out of 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: the bathroom and I'm so pissed, and he was like 134 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: I can't believe like all these people are doing rich 135 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: in the sauna and I'm like, dude, like dropping, you 136 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: don't have to look like if they're doing their stuff 137 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: and go like blessing, be right. 138 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: It sounds like he was. It sounds you know, this 139 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: guy is like you know what, I feel bad because 140 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: I'm about to get I don't know. I don't know 141 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: what I'm about to say is giving him the benefit 142 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: of the doubt. But it sounds as though this guy like, ah, fuck, 143 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know how confident 144 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: I am about to say. But he was like he 145 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: he wanted to do the thing. He wanted to stick 146 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: with the plane, he wanted to stick with the plan. 147 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: But then he started having all these like gay thoughts, 148 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: and he started he met this girl in Guatemala, and 149 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: just life started to overtake and he tried to fight 150 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: it a little bit, and that's why he was going 151 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: off on these people in the sauna and shit. But 152 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: but it just it, it took him in. And I 153 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: don't know why all those things are happening. I don't 154 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: know why he felt this crazy desire to make like, 155 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: uh a left turn and and and and discuss, you know, 156 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: discover things about himself that maybe he he he hadn't 157 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: dived into previously. And it's it's a fucking damn shame 158 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: that you are an innocent, uh, casualty in all of it, 159 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, But whatever that's for his therapy, get 160 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: go call this is yours. 161 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: So it's funny too, because like I actually took this 162 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: guy to confront him because he wanted closure and why 163 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: he ghosted him. So we when we confronted him about it. 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: Wait wait wait you wait. So the guy wait wait, 165 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: the guy that he was flirting with you and him 166 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: got together to confront your ex. 167 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: He knew where we lived because he googled his name, 168 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: so he knew where we lived. He knew the apartment number, everything. 169 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 3: He just asked if it was cool, if he can 170 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: meet up. Then I was like, sure, that's fucking nuts, man, 171 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: you just that's what I'm saying. It's like a movie. 172 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: What happened when you confronted him and his wife and 173 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: the guy from uh that he's cheating on her with 174 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: fucking show up? What did he say? 175 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: So we showed up at his dad's house because he 176 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: would not come over to the apartment anymore, and so 177 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: we knocked on the door and I told him, I 178 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: was like, I brought you a friend. So he like 179 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: he looked all surprised, and then he pretty much told 180 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: the guy like the guy didn't not want to even 181 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: look at him, and he told the guy like, hey, 182 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: you know what, we had cool conversations. It was all cool, 183 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: but then just the thought of doing anything with you 184 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: just disgusted me. 185 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: Oh he said that to the guy that he was 186 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: started with. 187 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, wild right. 188 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, listen back to you. What's your name again, Jen? 189 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: Jen? 190 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Jen? 191 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: Back to you? 192 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: Jen? 193 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: When's the last time he talked to your ex? 194 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: This was on maybe like two weeks ago on Thursday, 195 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: because we made plans on him taking up his stuff 196 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: from storage and while my brother went with me because 197 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: this is when he was having a screaming battle with 198 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: me on the song about me being a psycho and 199 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: being crazy and all this stuff. Because I told his 200 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: current girlfriend, now they're official, I told her, hey, like 201 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: if you really know the truth about him, like these 202 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: are all the things that were leading up to the breakup, 203 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: and like we were still seeing each other and sleeping 204 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: with each other. And she was like, hey, you know 205 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: what he told me he was single. Why are you 206 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: making it like my fam. I'm like, I'm not blaming you, 207 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm telling you what happened towards the end. And so 208 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: he got all upset and called me and started screaming 209 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: at me. And then that's when he was like, I 210 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: need to take my stuff out of storage, which is fine. 211 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: Then he shows up to storage with cops because he 212 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: wanted the engagement ring back as well. So I gated 213 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: back to him, and I was just kind of like 214 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: wearded out because this is a guy too who's apparently 215 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: like hates the cops, but he's been calling the cops 216 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: lately on me. 217 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: Crazy dude. 218 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is a guy too that says he's 219 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: going through a spiritual journey because he wants to connect 220 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: to God. 221 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: What is he going to, like live with this woman 222 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: in her country or is she coming to the US? 223 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. He can't afford a plane ticket to 224 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: the Philippines to go see her, so I don't know 225 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: what his plans are. 226 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: Well, look again, I'll say that's for that guy's therapy. 227 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: Getto call what so? I mean you and you guys 228 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: don't okay, And you guys don't have any kids or anything, 229 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: and you never were married, so there's no divorce. Crazy crap. 230 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: So okay, No, So what do you let me ask 231 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: you this jen seven years? What's something you just ended? 232 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: This one thing? What's something you always wanted to do 233 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: but you couldn't because you had this boyfriend. 234 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 3: I really wanted to work in the music business, and 235 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: I definitely will admit I kind of put that on 236 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: the back burner because of him and his insecurities, and 237 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: so like right now, like I want to try to 238 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 3: refocus myself on that again, but it's you know, it 239 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: still feels fresh and like the holidays are happening, so 240 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: it just even sucks. 241 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: What were his insecurities about you working in the in 242 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: the music industry? 243 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: So I had friends in bands and you know, stuff 244 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: like that, So it's just as insecurities as like, you know, 245 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: you're around all these guys eyes and like, you know 246 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: what if they hit on you? Stuff. And I told him, like, 247 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: if I wanted to be with someone like that, I 248 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: could have. I have had the opportunity, but a lot 249 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: of them aren't really the best boyfriend materials, and like 250 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: I couldn't see myself with someone like that, but he 251 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: just couldn't get over it. 252 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: M So, are you going to try to pursue something 253 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: like that. 254 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: I'm in the process of continuing my career path on that, 255 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: but is just you know, I'm living in a fantasy 256 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 3: land right now where like we would get back together, 257 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: even though in my mind I know it's not the 258 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: best idea in the sky. 259 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I. 260 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: I look, you were with this guy for seven years. 261 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: You planned a whole life with him. I understand why, 262 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: And this only happens like a couple of weeks ago. 263 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,359 Speaker 2: It sounds so I understand while you're living in fantasyland. 264 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: From my perspective and the perspective of the people listening, 265 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: it's like, why would you ever want to talk to 266 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: this guy again? But I'm not. I'm not. I won't 267 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: be ignorant enough not to understand that, yes, you were 268 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: with him for seven years and that that's going to 269 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: take a while. But I'm fairly confident that after some 270 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: time you will join the side of defence that I 271 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: and the people listening likely are sitting on when they 272 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: when they view this relationship. Yeah, but this is exciting. 273 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, okay, you want to work in 274 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: the music industry? Is there anything else? 275 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: Just pretty much traveling, to be honest, because that's something 276 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: I still have planned and you know we both have 277 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: planned it. But like at this point, I don't want 278 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: to stop just because I'm not with him anymore. 279 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: Please, please, dear God, oh my God, the best thing, 280 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: the best thing you could possibly do is if you 281 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 2: and your partner had travel plans together, don't cancel him 282 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: go where'd you get? Where are you planning? 283 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: Well, I've always wanted to go to Spain, you know, Hawaii, 284 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: like just places like that, like you know, adventuring, go. 285 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: To Spain, go to Hawaii. There's hot, there's hot. But 286 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: I mean, jen, the hunk population of Hawaii, it's about 287 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: three hundred thousands, you know, just go by yourself and 288 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 2: and and get hunked. 289 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: Right, just see what he is? You know, Yeah, it 290 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: just sucks. But you know, I don't know how people 291 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: can just get over a relationship, especially. 292 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: After it's not gonna I understand. I'm just I'm I'm I. 293 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: I know I'm ignorant to your your particular don't know, 294 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: but you know, I think I think eventually, hopefully time 295 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: will will heal the wounds, you know, time hunks hunks, 296 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: he'll Yeah, But are you still are you still friends 297 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: with the with the with the guy like the. 298 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: The guy he was hitting Funny, that guy just hits 299 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: me up to see like if I'm in contact with 300 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: my ex and if I have his number, and so 301 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: I kind of just erased him off my phone because 302 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: it just seemed like he's still won't isn't over whatever 303 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: happened between them. 304 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: I mean I kind of think, I mean listen, I mean, Jen, 305 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: call me crazy, but I think that YouTube might be 306 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: needing to plan a trip to Hawaii. Now that would 307 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 2: be tell me, that wouldn't be a movie. That's a 308 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: movie right there. You that guy going to Hawaii getting 309 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: hunked out. That's a movie right there that I would watch. 310 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to figure out the script. 311 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: That's a Jett Appatow movie. You you're Leslie Man, who's 312 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: the guy whatever? Who cares? Anyway? Well, Jen, how do 313 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: you how do you? How do you feel? 314 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 3: How do I what? 315 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: How do you feel? 316 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 3: I feel great after this conversation. I mean, like I 317 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: definitely you know, needed to let it out because it's 318 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: funny because he actually introduced me to you to like 319 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: your podcasts. 320 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I hope that when you think of this part, 321 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: I hope that now that you have been introduced and 322 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: he's in the Philippines and he's listening to, you know, 323 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: other crazy podcasts, I hope I hope that you can 324 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: associate this podcast yourself with it not being associated with him, 325 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: so that you can keep listening and maybe buy a 326 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: T shirt from my merch store at therapy Gecko dot 327 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: com at some point. 328 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, that's on my Christmas list. 329 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: Jane, is there anything else you want to say to 330 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go? 331 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: I mean, thanks for all your guys' advice, for sure, 332 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: because I definitely need it. 333 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: All right, take care, Jen. 334 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: Awesome, Thank you, hunk City All from. 335 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: My name is Omar? 336 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: Hello? 337 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: Hello? 338 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: Is this Omar? 339 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: What's up? 340 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: Omar? What's going on? 341 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: Just ship getting high? Playing City star lives, making like 342 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: little people move around the only. 343 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: Screen you're playing? 344 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 4: What that game is? Like? Fucking sim City and just 345 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: like make cities sounds. It's sucking sick. 346 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: You're getting high and playing SimCity? 347 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 4: Hell? Yeah? 348 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: Wow? What made you want to interrupt such a beautiful 349 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: life experience just to call me? 350 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. I wanted to hear what you have 351 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: to say about life. You seem pretty wise, but someone I. 352 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: Want to hear what I have to say about life? 353 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: What do I have to say about life? Sometimes I 354 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: I wonder sometimes I'm I've been going back, you know, 355 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: I've been think about a lot, but going back and 356 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 2: forth about whether life is easy or hard? Oh yeah, yeah, 357 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 2: Because sometimes I'm like, wait, this is this is easy, 358 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: and then other times I'm like, wait, this is really hard. 359 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 4: Did you get born into an easy life or a 360 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: hard life? 361 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: You say, born into an easy life or a hard life? 362 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: Did you did you? 363 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: Which one did you get? Say? Where are you from? 364 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: I'm from London. 365 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's why your phone is a little shitty 366 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: and your accent is a little shitty too, so I 367 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: can sort of only barely understand what you're saying. 368 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: That's fair enough. I'll try and articulate a little bit harder. 369 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, So what did you just say? 370 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 4: Did you get an easy life or a hard one? 371 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 4: Which one did you get born into? 372 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: It's fun to make fun of British people because you 373 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: know they're also just white, all right? So oh fuck? 374 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: Sorry did you get did you get an easy life 375 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: or did you get a hard one? Which one did 376 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: you get born into? It? 377 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: Born into? 378 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 379 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean fu comparatively easy? God damn. I mean it 380 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: depends on it depends on uh uh, your perspective, because 381 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: I mean all my I mean, because look, here's the thing. 382 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: I think the right the bar for an easy life 383 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: to me in consideration to all of the lives that 384 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: are out there, is like if if you're born into 385 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: a life where, like, you know, your parents don't beat 386 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: the shit out of you, and you can eat food 387 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 2: and drink water, that's pretty good. I don't know if 388 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: it's necessarily easy, but it's just pretty good. 389 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, it's pretty sweet. 390 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: What about you? What do you think? 391 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: Yeah? I hell, yeah, dude, I'm privileged out. I got 392 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 4: a three life. I grew up in Asia now I 393 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 4: live in London. I'm living it up, living that dream. 394 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: Where are you from? Where in Asia are you from? 395 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 4: No? I grew up in Singapore. 396 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: Oh I've heard of Singapore. Singapore is? Singapore is kind 397 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: of rich, isn't it. 398 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cool when you're under eighteen, it's pretty cool. 399 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: Why is it cool when you're under eighteen but not 400 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: cool when you're over. 401 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: Eighteen Cause you can have like a fun sheltered time now, 402 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 4: like you can go like cringe clubbing and shait. But 403 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: when you grow up and you want to like do 404 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: some cool shit like my weed and stuff, you can't 405 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: do any of that. 406 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. So you just said, yeah, living in Singapore 407 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 2: as a minor is cool because you can go to 408 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: the club, but then once you turn eighteen you're not 409 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 2: allowed to smoke weed. 410 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you grow up and you want to do 411 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 4: coolest stuff because you realize club is really lame. But 412 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: you can't do cooler stuff. You can't say weed, you 413 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 4: can't do drugs. You got to like live that cookie 414 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 4: cut of corporate lifestyle. 415 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: Why were you you were clubbing? How old were you 416 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: when you were clubbing? 417 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: You can go clubbing when you're like thirteen fourteen there 418 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: because you're like expat so you like get into places easier. 419 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: Really wait, so are you like so you're telling me 420 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: there are clubs where there's like thirty five year olds 421 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: hanging out with thirteen year olds. 422 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: Bro, yeah percent, and like what's even with it? At 423 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: the time, it is like you think it's normal that 424 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: they're just like partying with you, getting new drinks, and 425 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: then you grow up and you'reze, how cringe that is 426 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: that this like dude who's like thirty is just like 427 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: hanging out with eighteen year olds? Thinking as cool as fuck? 428 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 4: When you liked makes oup where to go in high school? 429 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: Goddamn? So how old were you? How old were you 430 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: when you left Singapore? 431 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 4: I think I left when I was seventeen. 432 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: Okay, do you ever go back? 433 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? I used to go back when my parents said there, 434 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 4: but I don't go back anymore. 435 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: Do you still club Where are you now? Are you 436 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 2: in London? Are in London? 437 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: No? No? No, not really. I get a gig, but 438 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 4: I don't go clubbing. I'm older now, I'm like thirty, 439 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 4: so it's like a bit, you know, more chilling. 440 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: What do you do with your life? Omar? 441 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: I'm a YouTuber? 442 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: Are a YouTuber? Are you? 443 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 5: Are you? 444 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: A YouTube? Has gotten so niche and so I feel 445 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: like you're You're a niche YouTube? You you're a weed 446 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: and sim City YouTuber those that's your nie? 447 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, Like. 448 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: You did a review on specifically the best strains to 449 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: smoke while playing SimCity, that's your No. 450 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: I wish I wish that was myself. 451 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: That's hey sports, Just so you know, if you want, 452 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: you can have that. 453 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: It's hard to here, dude. It's illegal here. It's illegal 454 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: and I think I'll get demonetized if I do that. 455 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: Really? Is we weeds? 456 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 4: Not? 457 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: Is we legal in London? 458 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: No? Everyone smokes weed, but it's all see. 459 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: You're saying you're breaking the law right now? 460 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 4: I mean, are you breaking a little fatually? If you 461 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 4: say weeds O? You're in Canada? 462 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: Why do you think I was? I'm not in Canaday? 463 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: Do you think I was in? 464 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 4: Oh? I don't know, that's what You're in? Galla? Who 465 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: are you? 466 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm oh? Mar? I got a question? Is there? And 467 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: it's okay if not. I'm enjoying talking to you. We 468 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: can talk about all kinds of things. But is there 469 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: a particular thing you wanted to talk about on the phone. 470 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, There's a few things going on, 471 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: but I don't know if I want to talk about them online. 472 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 4: You know. What I've been playing with though recently, is 473 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 4: like when you realize that you know nothing really means anything, 474 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to get psyched to do anything. 475 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 4: Like like I get that, like you know, the end 476 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: game is that you're just enjoying every moment as it comes, 477 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: because that's really all you get. You don't get the future, 478 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 4: you don't get the past. You just get now, right, 479 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: But like, I don't know, when you do that forever, 480 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: it feels reckless and you're like, damn, in like ten 481 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: years time, I'm gonna fucked up because all I was 482 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 4: doing it's focusing on the present. 483 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: Is your version of focusing on the present getting high 484 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: and playing sim City? 485 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 4: No, not all the time? 486 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: What's your version of focusing on the present? 487 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 4: I guess heating isthing like I don't know, like going 488 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: out to dinner, going to the pub, getting fucked up? 489 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 4: All right, shit like that. 490 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: So you're thirty, right, yeah, do you feel like you 491 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: fucked up your future? 492 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: No? But I'm worried that I'll get there and it'll 493 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: be too late. You know, you'll figure that out. 494 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, what are you doing here? 495 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: All right? 496 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: What do you I mean, what do you like? Give 497 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: me some specifics. What do you think you fucked up? 498 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 4: Well, it's just like, okay, so I'm a YouTube I 499 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 4: aren't like pretty decent money, but it's like, you know, 500 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 4: same and popularity that they're not solid things. But all 501 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 4: my other thirty year old friends they have legit jobs there. 502 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 4: They're like fucking some of them bankers. They I mean, 503 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 4: they have a ship time, but they're earning ships on 504 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 4: the cash. They're locked in for like a future that 505 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: will last for ages, And it's just that security looks 506 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: so sweet, but it's like the price you place that 507 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: is very high, and it's just like, am I making 508 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: the right choice for not doing that? Well? 509 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Omar, I have good news. If you want to talk 510 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: about fake jobs, you've come to the right professional Geko. 511 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 4: Good point. What do you think about the future? Like, 512 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: how are you? How do you are you? Are you 513 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: worried about these things? 514 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: Dude? If you want to know my real answer on this, 515 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: I just like am thinking, I've thought about a few things. 516 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I'm just right now. I'm just 517 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: like I do like and I'm gonna get practical with 518 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: you right now. I'm just like, Okay, let me like 519 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: save as much money as possible so that, yeah, you know, 520 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: I can like have a nice cushion before I, you know, 521 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: ever have to get a real job if I ever do. 522 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: But and I think about that a lot. I think 523 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: about the future. I think about like, oh man, when 524 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: am I gonna you know, I I because you know, right, 525 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 2: we're in the same but I have no security in 526 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: what I do really but h and you know, and again, bruh, 527 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: I think about this every single day. I'm like, I'm like, 528 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm twenty I'm almost I'm twenty six 529 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: next week, and I'm like, what the fuck am I 530 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: going to be doing when I'm like forty? You know, 531 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: am I still gonna be imagine? 532 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 4: Like, you know, I be squashed? You have the classic 533 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: YouTube is ship. I can't imagine being like a fifty 534 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: year old dude being like yo, I can send off 535 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: a squaes click my link, Like, I just can't imagine 536 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: doing that, right. 537 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: I Mean, here's the thing, though, is I will you 538 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: you you have to understand that certain things are outside 539 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: of your control. So for me, I'm like, all right, well, 540 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: how hard I work is in my control. So that's 541 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: why you know, I again post clips for my to 542 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: promote the podcast, and I work really hard to make 543 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: sure that the show is good, and I work as 544 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: hard as I can to be the best Gecko as 545 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: I can. And uh, outside of that, I mean, none 546 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: of this shit is really in my control. All the 547 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: people listening could be like, hey, you know what, this 548 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: is fucking stupid and turn it off, and you know, 549 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: then I, you know, have to go. But I don't know, 550 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I've I've talked when I 551 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: talk to my friends and family about this kind of thing. 552 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: They always tell me that I'll figure it out, and 553 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: I've started to try to want to believe them that, 554 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: you know, I have. I feel a certain sense of 555 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: confidence and security and my own brain and my own 556 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: skills and my own experience that you know, I'll be 557 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: okay regardless of what happens to the sure I'll figure 558 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: it out. And you know whatever, I mean, if it's 559 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: just if it's purely a money thing, I mean, there's 560 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: a thousand different ways to make money in the in 561 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: the world, So you know, I'm sure I'll figure out 562 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: uh something, But for now, I'm almost I'm like, you know, 563 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: there's a there's you guys are balancing actor, right, because 564 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: the more I stress out about the future and the 565 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: more I wonder what the hell I'm gonna be doing 566 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: when I'm thirty seven, the less I'm focused on doing 567 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: what on what I'm going to be doing when I 568 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: am right now alive? You know, So I'm like robbing 569 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: from Yeah, I'm like, I'm robbing from my present geckoss 570 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: to think about, you know, how I'm gonna afford to 571 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: eat food when I'm you know, forty five. So uh, 572 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, I I don't know. I don't. I think 573 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: about this stuff all the time. I mean, what do 574 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: you think? 575 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean? I thinking about it all the time too. 576 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: It's like, to be honest, I'm just we like. It 577 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: also starts to play back to this thing where like 578 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: you know, people like, oh you have on your own 579 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 4: is your memories? Because I don't even like really know 580 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: if my memory is even legit? 581 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: Do you do? 582 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, You're like you trying to 583 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 4: recall something? You know? Am I even remembering that? Is 584 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 4: this just like some boss? It's like right where else 585 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 4: I going at that point, because it's like, you know, 586 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 4: when you're living in the now, you're trying to create 587 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: create memories for later, so you like have a really 588 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 4: good life in your head. But it's like I don't 589 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 4: really remember those things. So it's like I'm living for 590 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 4: the now, but the now it's literally just as my bleeding. 591 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 4: So it's like, really weird, A is there any reason 592 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 4: why I'm putting happy into this? Now? I've kind of 593 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 4: lost my point. But basically it's fucking complicated and I 594 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: can't figure it out. 595 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So I mean, well here's here, there's another 596 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: aspect of all this stuff that I was thinking about. 597 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is true. I don't 598 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: know if I agree with this, but it's a thought 599 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: that I've explored in my head, which is that kind 600 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: of bro in general, security is like kind of a myth. 601 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree with that, but but 602 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: I do. I do think about it. I mean, think 603 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: about the pandemic. Right, like a bunch of people who 604 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: like had you know, quote, real stable jobs just got 605 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 2: fucking fired, you know, and you know, layoffs happen all 606 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: the time. People get with real secure jobs get fucking fired. 607 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: And hey, besides even that, people get people who are 608 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: in like good health have fucking brain aneurysms and die 609 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: when they're fifty. And people get into car accidents and 610 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: die when they're thirty, even though they had security and 611 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: they had good health and this and that. So so 612 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: I mean security, it's like you can you can get 613 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: pretty short that everything's gonna be okay, but that's that's 614 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: like the best you could never you could never be 615 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure that everything's gonna be okay. You 616 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: is never unless if you like, stayed inside your room 617 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: and eight lettuce and did push ups and never left 618 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: and anything. But you can't live like that. And even 619 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: if you did look like that, you'd only get to like, 620 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: you know, ninety percent sure that everything's gonna be okay. 621 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: But even but that version of life is not things 622 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: being okay. So I you know, security does feel like 623 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: a myth in that way. You can never be one 624 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: hundred percent sure that everything's gonna be okay. And so 625 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: to that point, I kind of surrender thinking about it, 626 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like if I if I'm 627 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 2: never gonna be one hundred percent sure that everything's gonna 628 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: be okay, then why the what's the fucking point of 629 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: worrying about if things are gonna be okay? 630 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 4: You know, se man, you just you know, you just 631 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 4: like let go with the flow. But that's not an 632 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: active mentality you have to maintain like it's norse. It's 633 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 4: not passive, you know. 634 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course no I'm talking about I'm talking a 635 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: bunch of ship to you right now. But you know, 636 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: after the stream is over, I'm gonna be like, what's 637 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: my YouTube revenue for this for this uh month? And 638 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: how am I. 639 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: Gonna bro I I I created a straight up. It 640 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 4: was like driving me instead, right, right right. 641 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, huh, Well what am I allowed to ask you 642 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: what your YouTube channel is? Or are you trying to 643 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: remain anonymous? 644 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bouldering. 645 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 2: What dude, what did you just say? 646 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, bouldering just such, boba, you'll find us rock. 647 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 2: Climbing, bouldering, bullbark. 648 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 4: The b o b a t. 649 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: B o b a t oh bulbering, Man, you got 650 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: you got it bro bulbering, bulbart. 651 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 4: Just talking in complete, You'll be fine. 652 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's nice talking me. 653 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: Man. 654 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 2: I feel like I don't have all that many people 655 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: who I know that do actually know I have a 656 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: good you know, I wish I could talk to I 657 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 2: wish I had more people to talk to about having 658 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: a fake funny job. 659 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. Man. It's like it's it's leading. Everyone's 660 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: all serious, and it's like, can someone else, Like my 661 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 4: parents have no idea what I did. Your parents know 662 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 4: what you do? 663 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but like they understand it to fine understand. 664 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 4: Like your fucking parents fully understand how he dressed them 665 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 4: as a gecko because of the casting your back down. 666 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: My parents understand that I dress up as a gecko 667 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 2: and talk to people on the phone and uh do 668 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: tours and make videos and stuff. Fad Ugh, my dad 669 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 2: used to be in the chat, but I don't think 670 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: he's in the chat anymore. Wait, there's a couple. There's 671 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: like a dude and the wait, there's a dude in 672 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 2: my chat right now who says he watches you? 673 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: Oh? Hell yeah, what's up? 674 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: That's cool? How many subs do you have? 675 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 4: Like? 676 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 2: Now that's sick? 677 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 4: Man? 678 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 2: Are you happy? Are you still? 679 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 4: We're kind of like, you know, what're like on the 680 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 4: you know, when your channel was like peaking before. We're 681 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 4: on like the down end of our peak. But that's okay. 682 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,439 Speaker 4: We we opened the gym in real life. 683 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: Open you opened the gym. 684 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 4: In real life? Yeah, because we didn't want to run 685 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 4: on YouTube, so we were like we need to make 686 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 4: something brick and mortar. So we we opened the gym 687 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 4: in London. 688 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's see, that's something I want to do. I 689 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 2: want to I want to diversify my life, you know, like, 690 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: uh yeah, I love I love doing the podcast and 691 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: the podcast is sick, but I'm like, oh what else 692 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: could I also I'm thinking about that, I'm like, what 693 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 2: could I do in real life? That's like, you know, it. 694 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 4: Keeps like the It keeps like the creativity fresh as well. 695 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 4: Doing ship in different aspects that all that kind of related. 696 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 4: It like helps you just get ship coming out of 697 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 4: your mind. 698 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: That's how I feel like. Ah what oh he hung up? 699 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 2: Well that sucks. Well wow, that's a real bummer way 700 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: to end that call. Hold on, let me see if 701 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 2: I can get him back. No, I don't think I can. 702 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: But that's okay. We were on the We were on 703 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: the much as he much as he said we we 704 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 2: we had peaked much as he said he had peaked 705 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: in his channel. I think we had peaked in that call. 706 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 2: That was a good call. Shout out to what's his 707 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: name again, Bobert, Bouldering Bobert. Shout out to Bouldering Bobert. 708 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: That's good talking to you. Let's collab. Should we do 709 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 2: a collab? But what did he say he what kind 710 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 2: of stuff did he say he makes? I'll go to 711 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 2: his gym, That's what we'll do, Bobering Bobert. If you 712 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: hear this, I'll go to your gym in London and 713 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: we'll make a video. Maybe depends on how strenuous you 714 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: want the activity to be. All right, thanks for calling, Bobert. 715 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: Hey folks, it's Lyle. So we have reached the end 716 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: of the phone call portion of this podcast because I 717 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: wanted to end with an excerpt from this video that 718 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 2: I just put out on my YouTube channel today, So 719 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: to give some context, I was in Australia on tour 720 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: over the summer and one day I went to the 721 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 2: beach in my gecko suit and I filmed a video 722 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 2: just running around talking to various strangers on the peer 723 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 2: of this beach in the same freeform way that I 724 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 2: talked to callers on this podcast, and the conversation that 725 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 2: you're about to hear now is probably my favorite one 726 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: from that day. So I had already been filming for 727 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: like four hours. It was nighttime. I was done. I 728 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 2: put my camera away and I was just walking around 729 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: and this dude on the docks starts asking me why 730 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: I am walking along the water in a frog costume, 731 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 2: which is a good question, and we started talking and 732 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: he told me he's taking a walk to clear his mind. 733 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: So I asked him what he's trying to clear his 734 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 2: mind from, and we just got into this very open, 735 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: honest conversation as two complete total strangers on a pier 736 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: at night and it was really cool, so I wanted 737 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: to share it on here. So let us transport to 738 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: the docks of Saint Kilda Beach in Melbourne, Australia to 739 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: talk to a stranger. I walk around as a gecko 740 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 2: and I just try to I'm like going on little adventures, 741 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? 742 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 5: Yeah? And then what people lock your adventures? 743 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 744 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: I guess sometimes. 745 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: Man. 746 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 2: What's your name? Man, Nice to meet you, Tim. What 747 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: what brings you out to the docks this evening? 748 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 749 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you be out here? 750 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: Look, it's beautiful, It is beautiful. So you were saying 751 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 2: to me before I turned this on that you were 752 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: just going on a walk to like clear your head 753 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 2: and stuff. 754 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 5: Of course, what. 755 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 2: Kind of stuff do you or you can't think of? 756 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 5: Experience anxiety while you walk? Yeah, there's a little known 757 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 5: staff and I've got a big footy game. 758 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 6: My team's playing tonight, so I've want to try and 759 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 6: relax before that. 760 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: What's been like stress? 761 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 4: And yeah, I've. 762 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 6: Been working up in Broken Hill for three months and 763 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 6: then I came back and worked three days this week 764 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 6: after a ten hour drive. And now that's over. Relationship over, 765 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 6: moved back in my house. Yeah, it's a change, So 766 00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,240 Speaker 6: you need. 767 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 2: To what what you what were you working at? 768 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 4: What were you doing? 769 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 5: I was a medical advisor on a medical TV show. 770 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 2: Oh really, So now that that's over, what's uh what 771 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 2: do you think you're going to do now? 772 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 5: That's why I'm out here? 773 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 774 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And you said there was 775 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: there was a relationship. What how long were you guys 776 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 2: together for a nice man? What do you think you're 777 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 2: going to like go out on the dating scene again 778 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 2: or are you going to wait a little bit? 779 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 3: Uh? 780 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 6: Oh, I definitely had a bit of time for the 781 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 6: dust as hittle. Yeah, and then and then see what's 782 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 6: out there? 783 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: What do you think makes like a good relationship? 784 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 5: It's a good question. 785 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 6: Used to always just be raw attraction was the most 786 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 6: important thing. But but then if you've got that but 787 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 6: no great human qualities, something to admire, yeah, something to 788 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 6: bring your joy, yeah, and a good sense of humor, 789 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 6: then you don't have much. 790 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: It's hard because raw traction, it can, it brings, it 791 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: brings the two people together, but it doesn't glue them. 792 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: Do you think there was something that you learned from 793 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 2: it at all? 794 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 5: The recent finish one? 795 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, just to. 796 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 6: If something's not right, then then acknowledge it and talk 797 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 6: about it. 798 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 2: I guess not. 799 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 6: Not just internalizing everything and then because it won't it 800 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 6: won't go away. You need to You need to find 801 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 6: a way to express yourself and be receptive to the 802 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 6: other person's perspective. And then if both of those things happen, 803 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 6: you might be able to work it out but and 804 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 6: make that relationship work. But you also might quickly be 805 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 6: able to finish it and end it and then find 806 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 6: something with someone else that does have that missing ingredient. 807 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 5: That was troubling you with the last person. 808 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 2: Are you Are you good at like being alone? 809 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 5: I'm pretty comfortable, but I think I'm ready not to. 810 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: Be fifty of like a good good friends and family 811 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: and stuff. Yeah. 812 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, although all my friends and family are sort of 813 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 5: more involved with their own families. 814 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 7: At this stage in life, so it's there's you know, 815 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 7: there's a few out there, but it's not like it 816 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 7: was when we're teens and twenties and everyone's in the same. 817 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 2: Boat, right right. Do you do you do you have 818 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: kids or do you want you? 819 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 820 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 821 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 2: Do you do you keep in touch with like your 822 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 2: your parents or your parents still around? 823 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: Yeah? 824 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm talking to them ballet with them tomorrow. 825 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, man, that's nice. 826 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 5: You have my birthday dinner on Sunday. 827 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 2: Oh your birthday is this weekend. Have a birthday man, 828 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 2: Thank you. 829 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 4: Well. 830 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 2: How do you like when you how do you feel 831 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: about your birthday? Like? 832 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 4: Is it? 833 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: Is it a happy occasion or is it like a 834 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: time for reflection? 835 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 5: Okay, so it's a bit of both. Definitely the latter. 836 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 5: And that's what again while I'm here, Yeah, I didn't 837 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 5: mention it early, but. 838 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 6: It's yeah, I guess you've there's got to be a 839 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 6: time in the year when you take stock and like 840 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 6: everyone does it a bit at Christmas or whatever, but 841 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 6: it's a more personal stock taking moment when it's your birthday, 842 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 6: I think, And particularly as you get a bit older, 843 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 6: it's in and you're closer to the end and the start, 844 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 6: you become more cognizant of all the of what's important 845 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,399 Speaker 6: and time and who you are and where you're going. 846 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 2: Do you do you feel like the ride so far? 847 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: Has it? Has it been a good Has it been 848 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: a good. 849 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 4: Ride so far? 850 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 5: Definitely? And I don't want to let the poll of 851 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 5: recent events sort of sour o the so my view 852 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 5: of the forty three almost forty three years. 853 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 4: To now. 854 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 5: But I've been very lucky and I should be very grateful. 855 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 2: What what do you feel like has been the best 856 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: part of the raid so far? Like the stuff you're 857 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: the most grateful for? 858 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 859 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 5: It's a good question. 860 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,479 Speaker 6: I mean, I've had some amazing people in my life, 861 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 6: and I've just had a lot of opportunities to do 862 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 6: things too, to study things, to to play sports and 863 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 6: music and express myself artistically, and. 864 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 5: Those moments which you. 865 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 6: Don't get a lot and you realize as life goes on, 866 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 6: you know, it's just not going to keep happening. But 867 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 6: I've had a lot of those and there will be more. 868 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 6: Sometimes you just got to make it happen a bit more. 869 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 6: And I guess I'm reflecting on that. How do you 870 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 6: make things happen? And when do you let things happen? 871 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. Do you do you feel as though with 872 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 2: every passing year, like things happen naturally a little bit 873 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: us and there's a little bit more of a kick 874 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: to have to make them happen. 875 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's definitely the wheels turn And I guess 876 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 5: as if you get a bit creakier and older. You 877 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 5: have to make them turn. 878 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 6: As the years go by, they don't just it's less 879 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 6: downhill skiing, more cross country? 880 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 2: Does any Does anything get better as the years go by? 881 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 2: Like what anything particular you notice is getting better? 882 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 4: Uh? 883 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 5: There is something about experience and wisdom that means you can. 884 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 6: Enjoy things from outside a bit more, Like you can 885 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 6: look at a situation and appreciate it. 886 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 5: Without being caught up in it as much. 887 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: Right, because you've been because because you feel like you've 888 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: been there before. 889 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you've been there. You've got some conspection. 890 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and. 891 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 5: Sometimes that's yeah, is a bit of a shadow. 892 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 6: But I think with that knowledge and awareness, there's some 893 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 6: satisfaction and you can't you just don't. You don't get 894 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 6: that from when you're there, you're coming up, you're doing 895 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 6: it for the first time. 896 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 2: Right, there's a little bit more emotion and raw anxiety 897 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 2: because it's it's new. 898 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 5: And then then maybe there's more adrenaline there too, but. 899 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, more adrenaline, but that's not everything. 900 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 6: And as you get older and you know, windows close, well, 901 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 6: there's more closed windows and open windows. Sometimes it's good 902 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 6: because you sort of accept that you're not going to 903 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 6: be able to do everything in this life, and that 904 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 6: acceptance has some. 905 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 5: Well when you when you resign to that fact, there's 906 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 5: some pace. 907 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: I think so too, because like there's this there's a 908 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 2: weird stress to like want to fucking do everything that 909 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 2: there is to do, and then if you're not doing it, 910 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 2: you're like you're beating yourself up about it. But then 911 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 2: as you get as you kind of realize just you're 912 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 2: not gonna be able to there's an acceptance and with 913 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 2: that acceptance, that anxiety, that beating yourself up about not 914 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 2: fucking doing everything, ever, it goes away a little bit. 915 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of this kind of kind of nice because 916 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, I don't know if you 917 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 2: have to do everything. Sometimes just standing looking at cool 918 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: buildings is like that's it. You know, it's good enough. 919 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 2: What do you what do you you're talking about, like 920 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 2: stuff you want to make happen? What is what is 921 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: it that you want to make happen? 922 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 6: Well, you've got to make a family happen. You go 923 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 6: to you've got to make a career happen. 924 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 5: You've got to. 925 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 6: You know, I sort of move from dance for to 926 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 6: dance floor rather than stay in the same venue and 927 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 6: make that my permanent fixture. So I've got to find 928 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 6: a place and stays my It's the thing I've. 929 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 5: Got to make happen. 930 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 2: How long have you been on this dance floor. 931 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 6: For I've been back from another dance floor for a week, 932 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 6: not quite a week. And now I'm gonna go overseas 933 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 6: and that'll be another dance floor. 934 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 5: Oh where are you gonna go? London, Portugal and Spain. 935 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 2: Sick, what are you doing there? 936 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 5: My friend's fortieth Oh cool. 937 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 3: Man and. 938 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 5: Her twin sister and yeah, just get out of the cold. 939 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're still good. You're going on a venture 940 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 2: as you're making that's cool man. 941 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and that's great. 942 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 6: But I also look forward to, you know, something that 943 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 6: a lot of my friends have, which is security and 944 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 6: stability and all the things I often think of boring, 945 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 6: but there they also have. 946 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 2: I was just talking to somebody over there about that 947 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: whole conflict between stability and adventure. You know, I feel 948 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 2: like it's it's a prevalent thing because because it also 949 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 2: I feel like it ties into all the stuff we've 950 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 2: been talking because it's like, you want to be able 951 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 2: to do everything and that's like unstable but fun. And 952 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 2: then there's kind of that acceptance. But with that acceptance 953 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 2: comes a little bit more stability and security. I think, Yeah, 954 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 2: that's nice. Man. 955 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 5: We we've lost out a lot here, but I have 956 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 5: enjoyed talking to you. 957 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 2: I've enjoyed talking to mess to me, to Tim. Is 958 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 2: there anything else you want to say to the people 959 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 2: of the computer. 960 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 5: Oh, how long? People of the computer. 961 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 6: I wish you well in your adventure and finding your 962 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 6: inner peace and out of pace and being happy along 963 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 6: the road to that. 964 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 2: I have regress to the night, nice contemplative conversation to 965 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:27,240 Speaker 2: have under the beautiful lights of Melbourne, Australia. Good times, 966 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 2: good day, late to beach. Hey, it's me again. If 967 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 2: you guys enjoyed that conversation, then please go check out 968 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 2: the full video on my YouTube channel YouTube dot com 969 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 2: slash lyle forever. I'll also link the video in the 970 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 2: episode description of this podcast. Doing these kinds of travel 971 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 2: videos is something I want to do a lot more 972 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 2: of in twenty twenty four. So your support in watching 973 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 2: them and listening to them and liking them and all 974 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: that stuff helps me out a lot, because it's it's 975 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 2: the main direction that I want to go to, uh, 976 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,280 Speaker 2: you know, moving forward is doing a lot more talking 977 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 2: to people in various real life places. So definitely check 978 00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 2: out the video if you want more of that, and 979 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 2: there's also a lot more videos like that on my 980 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 2: YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash lyle forever. All right, anyway, 981 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 2: thank you for listening to this podcast, and go kiss 982 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: a lion on the paw. It's an expression. 983 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 4: Really goes on the line taking your phone calls every night. 984 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 5: Never Beacon goes to what AI's teaching you. Cloud in 985 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 5: the memorial Life Money is not really an expert