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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about

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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic girl cheering drama, Queen's Up Girl Fashion, but

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Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drahna, Queen's Drama Queens.

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Speaker 1: Oh hello, everybody, Another Week, Episode three. I have no

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Speaker 1: Let's make a promise. Okay, I want Joy to make

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Speaker 1: my brothers don't care about Chad Michael Murray. They care

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00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: about Minkus like they were. So you made me feel

426
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: so at ease, and I I always like, yeah, I

427
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: think I probably made you sign things. I was like,

428
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna need you to sign some Stuff's

429
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: World was like a huge deal when we were growing up.

430
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: You were on a hit hit show and like us,

431
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: doing the pilot at Onetrey Hill, no one ever thought

432
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: that would go, you know, so you were the godfather.

433
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: You know that it actually done it. How long did

434
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World run? Um? I think they did. I

435
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: don't know, six or seven seasons. But the thing about

436
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: that is is I only did the first season and

437
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: people people don't realize that. I think they really sometimes

438
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: think I was there first. Yeah. I mean the thing

439
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: about the character was it was so you know, it

440
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: was such a fun and memorable character that I think

441
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: people just and then I came back later and did

442
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: like an episode where they graduated from high school and

443
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: they brought me back. And then when they did their

444
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: union show, they were cool enough to bring me in

445
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: and um, so yeah, you know, And honestly, I have

446
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: to say, I'm really glad actually that it worked out

447
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: the way it did, because I don't know that I

448
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: would have gotten the opportunity to do our show, to

449
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: do One Tree Hill if I'd been on that the

450
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: whole time, because you know how it is, you get

451
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: locked into those roles and you guys knew that we'd

452
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: be out, like you know, and people would scream mankas

453
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: from across the bar, and it's like, yeah, if I

454
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: had been from one season, that's right. So that's what

455
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: I mean. I almost feel like it was kind of

456
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: fortuitous that, you know, I wasn't just so locked in,

457
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: even though I sort of. So. The subtext here is

458
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: that Lee can take a couple episodes and make an

459
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: iconic right, why do you seans? David Spin keeps calling

460
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: you you guys, I need to talk to you more often.

461
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Basketball girls, That's right? Were you a basketball fan when

462
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: you start? I mean you had a lot of die

463
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: This was like a like a medical jargon or like

464
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: a legal jargon, the round that you just had to like,

465
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, how is that for you? Yeah? No, I was.

466
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: I was because I was at wake Forest, which is

467
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: a big ACC basketball school, So I came in for

468
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: the audition. I was actually wearing my it was called

469
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: like the Freaking Deacons because the Demon Deacons were our mascot.

470
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: And I was into like the basketball club that like

471
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: the fans that like and you sweet little bunny, you know,

472
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I loved it. There was no way I

473
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: was ever going to play basketball, but you know, I

474
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: loved what, you know, so um, yeah, No, I was

475
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: a fan and that was you know, nice for me

476
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: to to sort of channel that and bring that into

477
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: those early days when that's really all he was. Um,

478
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until you know, like later in the

479
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: season when the cheerleading and the brooken Mouth wy toy

480
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: stuff that they really starting to kind of flesh him out.

481
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: I loved that the most. That's like truly one of

482
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: my favorite storylines of my whole nine years. But I'm

483
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: curious about the the jargon in the lingo, like you

484
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: being part of that whole basketball scene at wake Forest.

485
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: Were there um, were there like college basketball reporters that

486
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: you were listening to prep to like learn the way

487
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: they talk, and there he goes down like it's such

488
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: a way that they do that. I probably should have

489
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: been doing that, but I don't. I mean, I just

490
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: watched a lot of ESPN in general, so you just yeah.

491
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: And the thing about Mouth is is he was he

492
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: didn't have to be professional, Like this was a kid

493
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: who was just passionate and was sort of you know

494
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: he was he was, you know, the nerdy kid who

495
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: was who was trying to find his voice. So I didn't.

496
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: I think the great thing was I didn't have to

497
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: be perfect at it. There was room to kind of

498
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: be like a novice about it. Um. I think it

499
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: was just enough that I sort of naturally enjoyed watching

500
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: the game. But yeah, it was it was a It

501
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: was a and like sitting on that picnic bench at

502
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: the river court, I asked, was like after sitting there,

503
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: all you know would be out there like all night

504
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: insta bonding. There's no other business I can think of

505
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: where it's like this. I mean maybe maybe military, I

506
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: don't know where. You just get thrown in with people,

507
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of people you don't know, and all of

508
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: a sudden, Europe all night together. You're spending long hours

509
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: and like lots of time sitting around, lots of time

510
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: just quietly available to talk and you know, it's it's

511
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: really cool. Did you did you feel because you were

512
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: there for all those River Court nights and everything that

513
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: was your gig, So did you feel like you were

514
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: able to really connect in with the whole group or

515
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: did you feel like, yeah, so what was your experience

516
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: like in the first season those I don't know about

517
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: you guys, but those are always my favorite scenes when

518
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: they got all of us together and we just got

519
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, it was three in and we're just you know,

520
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: Goofy Moss is singing like the theme song to the

521
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: Golden Girls, and we're just like like where you know

522
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: that that was the most fun And I feel like,

523
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, being and what really struck me because you

524
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: your podcast has inspired Andrew and I. We've gone back

525
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: and started watching it now because we're like watching all

526
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: these other shows in Quarantine and stuff, so you know,

527
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: we started going back until we watched the pilot this

528
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: weekend and through up through this episode, and it's just

529
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: so crazy to me, like to see, especially in this episode,

530
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: you see so much of downtown at the River, the

531
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: river Walk and all of that, and to think that

532
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: that was the backdrop for our show, but that was

533
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: the backdrop for our real lives too. So it's like

534
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: I've seen these the steps that they're sitting on for

535
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: the burning boat thing, and like, that's the steps that

536
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 1: we were, like, you know, kind of buzzed on it too.

537
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: I am talking about Greenberg playing a guitar exactly. It's

538
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: just so surreal. But yeah, those are by far my

539
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: favorite scenes, you know, m hmm, Lee, were there any

540
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: like misconceptions about Mouth, anything that you know, people maybe

541
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: didn't quite understand about him, or anything that you really

542
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: felt you wanted people to understand about him. I don't know,

543
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think as far as Mouth, um,

544
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about him is you see him

545
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: as sort of the nice guy, um, and yet he

546
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: was written in a different time. And I think this

547
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: is true about all of our characters, right, I mean,

548
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: there was things that were written for him that now

549
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: when I go back and look at it, I'm like, oh,

550
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he should have walked up to

551
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: Brooke and just kissed her without asking at the high school,

552
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's there's just things like that,

553
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: But you know, at the same time, We're making a

554
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: TV show and if we all just did the right

555
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: thing all the time, it would be boring. So I

556
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: understood that it was like heightened and um different, But yeah,

557
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. There were things where he

558
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: like threw the brick at the windshield of Brooks car

559
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: and I was like, what where does this come from?

560
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean reading the strips and end

561
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: like here's the job actor and me, I gotta keep

562
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: this job, so I'm just gonna do whatever, or just

563
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: like you know, Hillary Hillary, Like in the later season,

564
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Matt Mouth is like in a fat suit and I

565
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: was like, what is this? Like idea about this? Just

566
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: like you know, we did our Christmas movie a couple

567
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: of years ago and we're all standing like a Hampton

568
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: Inn in Louisiana and Lee would come over at the

569
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: end of the workday and we just talked about stuff

570
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: that same we like we've all kind of decompressed together.

571
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: And Lee's like, oh, yeah, do you remember like when

572
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Mouth was in a fat suit? And I'm like, what

573
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? I totally missed all of that,

574
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: So I don't misconcert these aren't so much misconceptions. It's

575
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: just I think that he can be viewed through a

576
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: different lens now. And my hope is that I always

577
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: no matter what was written, I just I always wanted

578
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: people to see his his real heart, that he wanted

579
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: to be a loyal and good friend. Whether he always

580
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: did the right thing is is definitely up for debate,

581
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: But I hope that because it was important for me

582
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: to be on the show. I mean there was there

583
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: was pushback when they went to make me a regular.

584
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: Then work was like, well, it doesn't look like a model,

585
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, come on, guys, like you know how

586
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: many James and Chad's you need? Like I thought what

587
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: was cool about our show was that it was it

588
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: was a little more grounded and it was nice a

589
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: human face looking back. And so I I've always, of

590
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: course been protective of him because I spent so long

591
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: playing him, but you know, I understand that there are

592
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: people that that can feel differently about them. So did

593
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: the writers ever, Like, did you have input with the

594
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: writers when at some point as you got as you

595
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: stayed longer and got more comfortable like just being there

596
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: and being and really became a part of the show.

597
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Were there times when the writers would come to you

598
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, what do you have any ideas

599
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: or things like that. No, that did not happen. Um.

600
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: And again I think it all stems from that just

601
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: how I was raised. So like, I'm just gonna see

602
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: this through. Um. But and I do want to be

603
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: careful to there. There are writers on the show that

604
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: I love and then I'm friends with and listen storylines

605
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: for these all of these characters for nine years. It's

606
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: no wonder that I ended up in the fatcy. Like,

607
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, at some point, what are you

608
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: going to do for these characters? So I want to

609
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: be careful and say I loved playing him. He was

610
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: a great character. He got to do funny stuff, he

611
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: got to do drama, so you know, I'm grateful for that.

612
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: But was special because he was the everyman, you know

613
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like Mouth represented every kid in high

614
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: school that wasn't captain of the basketball team, it wasn't

615
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: captain of the Chilean squad. Like, He's an important person

616
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: for our fan base to be able to connect to. However,

617
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: Mouth pulled chicks, like every chick on the show had

618
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: a Mouth episode, is what I'm saying, we had our

619
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: our go cart rendezvous. What was and what was your romance?

620
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: Would you guys do? I took Mouth to a strip

621
00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: club right, Limma, we were all dressed up. Oh God,

622
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get to that episode and figure

623
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: out what in God's name we were doing. But I

624
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: just remember that Lee and I were both so uncomfortable,

625
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: and you know, this had to be Brooke Davis's idea,

626
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: of course, and we and I am like, what is happening?

627
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: And the writers were like, It's gonna be great. And

628
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I was like, um, I feel really uncomfortable, and you,

629
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: sweet Angel, you were like, I just this feels I

630
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: don't know, and you just kept putting your hands up

631
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: because like you don't want the girls to think you're

632
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: going to try to touch them. And so the girls

633
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: that had been hired to like be these I mean

634
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: they were strippers who were hired to come on the show,

635
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: drew us little notes and smiley faces and oh yeah,

636
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: so they were pasties because like they knew we were

637
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: just yeahs like little spot what that was a stripping thing?

638
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: This story work around to Joy saying I did that then?

639
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: Were someone in the back of a high school boys,

640
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Car was a pilot I did later and I had

641
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: to do my first like sex scene and I had

642
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: pasties on and I just did in glitter like up

643
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: here with arrows like you know, someone at my face?

644
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah stop. It was another one multiple strip club opportunities

645
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: on our show where gold I became the stripper later.

646
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. How long did it take before you were

647
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: comfortable enough to show us your dance moves? Because for

648
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: anybody that doesn't know, Lee is the best dancer on

649
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: the show. So good. Well, I mean that was in

650
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: my younger age. Now now I have a two year

651
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: old and I can't even bend over. But you know,

652
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: well I think you guys, I've heard you talk about

653
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: this on the yearlier episodes, Like we saw pieces of

654
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: ourselves start to being worked into the characters. And we

655
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: would go out, I have some drinks or whatever, and

656
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: we would do blow off scene. We would go to

657
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: like Oliver Twists, and it was eighties and night we

658
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: would go out and just dancing. We were having fun, right,

659
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, but do you remember like downtown Wilmington's and

660
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: it being a big deal to get into Oliver Twists,

661
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: Like you don't read the line and Wilmington like you

662
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: were in Manhattan or something. Guys were on the list. Well,

663
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: and then we can only go to certain places because

664
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: James could only get into like certain places. Not that

665
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: he was doing anything illegal, not at all, not that

666
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: he wasn't twenty one yet. But Lee, I will say,

667
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: like you and I laid the foundation of our friendship

668
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: on loving hip hop and going dancing. Do you remember,

669
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: of course I do. He loved we loved the Oh

670
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: my God that that is our song. You would be like,

671
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, we would be like across the like bar

672
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: or what ever if this song would come along and

673
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: it was like the Red Sea would part because Lee

674
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: and I would be screaming, running toward each other like

675
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: some weird drunken version of like a slow mo love

676
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: moment in like an eighties movie, and we just hit

677
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: the middle of the floor and like we'd get the

678
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: whole bar dancing. And this didn't happen once, it happened

679
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: all the home, like all the time. That's how we

680
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: became friends with Jane Beck because she heard we would

681
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: like go out dancing, so she started coming with us.

682
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: And then Jane would do push ups on the edge

683
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: of the pool tables of it up at Steph's bar,

684
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: the one upstairs Odessa, Yes, and we were all like,

685
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Jane's the coolest person we've ever met. And and for

686
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: everyone listening at home, Jane beck Is, you know, one

687
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: of our very best friends from the show, worked in

688
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: our wardrobe department for years. Is like a brilliant, badass,

689
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: creative woman who also is the strongest person I've ever

690
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: met and can do push ups in a handstand. Yeah.

691
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: And I have to say to guys who are listening,

692
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to get on the

693
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: dance floor. Yeah. I mean this is how I met

694
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: my wife, Like, yeah, I can always get the ladies

695
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: with tons of guys standing on the side, and they're

696
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: not gonna they're not gonna get in here, So go out,

697
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: do it, have fun and you never know what's going

698
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: to take you. But yeah, then it first showed up

699
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: in the script, you know, three episodes later where mouths

700
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: like spying on cheerleaders and learns that oh god, oh

701
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: my god, it's so precious. What was your favorite episode? Ly,

702
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Um, I mean I had different ones

703
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: for different reasons. I mean I think I think three

704
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: sixteen school shooting is like obviously important for a lot

705
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: of reasons, not just the obvious ones about the subject matter,

706
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: but also like the whole you know, we didn't know

707
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: if the show was going to make it because that's

708
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: when the networks were combining and we were I think

709
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: we all felt like sort of spur to try to

710
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 1: do something to prove like we're worthy to like continue

711
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: on or whatever. So that one special, and then I

712
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: love I love the honestly, I love the last the

713
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: very last episode where Mouth gets to give his speech

714
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: about what you do matters and how you do it matters,

715
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: and they set up a scholarship fund based on Jimmy

716
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: and all that. So there's pieces of different ones. But

717
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: and then all the time we went on trips, you know,

718
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: it was just so fun. Whenever it was like sleeping

719
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: fund traveling buddy. Let's just put it that he's also

720
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: the guy that you want in your corner. We're going

721
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: to get into a little segment in one second, but

722
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: before we do that, I need everyone to know if

723
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: you're ever at a wedding and you need to sit

724
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: next to someone that will get you in trouble, it

725
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: is Leonora's we went to Tyler Hilton's wedding together and

726
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: they sat us at the actor table at the reception,

727
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: and an actor who will remain names, who was a

728
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: much more fa miss than we are. After we tried

729
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: to include them in our conversation because right, like, we're

730
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: all like small town southern kids, like, hey, man, let's

731
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: be friends. You know that you engage when you meet strangers.

732
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: Was this person by themselves at the wedding? No, they

733
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: were with their girlfriend. But Lee and I try to

734
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: get this person to like engage, and we idea right,

735
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: and so we're like, hey, what's up? And they just

736
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: stood up and walked away, just like left. And so

737
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: as the night progresses and Lee and I are on

738
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: the dance floor and drinking drinks and having a great night,

739
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: the whole rest of the night will have to beat this.

740
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: Lee would yell out across the wedding, and I was

741
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: just like, it's such a strong move to know who

742
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: your circle of friends are and to be like, we're

743
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: going to roll deep tonight friends and I don't care

744
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: that it's someone's nuptials, going for it. Oh my god,

745
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: that's so phenomenally. Your wedding was the best like I

746
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: have seen photos from your wedding where I'm just like,

747
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: who is that person I was dancing with? And then

748
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: like there's we were all just raging. It was like

749
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: a sea of bodies. It was like a music festival,

750
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: but it was also like a very beautiful, gorgeous like

751
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: North Carolina on the water event, but like, we just

752
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: can't help ourselves. We turned it into we turned into

753
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: a rager. If you're in the same room. The wedding

754
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: planner was like, do you want a band or a DJ?

755
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: That's like the big question when you're having wed and

756
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: I was like, looking around Wilmington, I'm like, I don't

757
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: know if there's any bands that are gonna be able

758
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: to pull off yinging twins. They brought in a DJ

759
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: and we just you know, I loved it when that

760
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: song turned Andrea is so sweet, y'all. Andrea's Lee's wife,

761
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: and our song came on and she just literally did

762
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: you to me and I was like, thank you, thank you,

763
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: sister friend. This moment I know Andrea loves me because

764
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: of that moment. God, and I mean all the years

765
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: of our friendship obviously, but Leonorris, the moment I realized

766
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: you really loved me and that we were like really

767
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: in it and we'd become best friends. Was when two

768
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: might have been three years into our friendship, you finally

769
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: admitted to me that you do not ever allow anyone

770
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: to eat off your plate ever. I have eaten off

771
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: of your plate since second night we had dinner together.

772
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: I just was like, oh, that was delicious. I'm gonna

773
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: try that. And Lee, I didn't know it was like,

774
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, and he would eat around the bites

775
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 1: I had taken for months but didn't have the heart

776
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 1: to like break my little Italian like family style spirit.

777
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: And eventually he got over it, and would you know,

778
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: we would just share food. But you told me years later,

779
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, you sweet human, Well, there was

780
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: something clearly wrong with me. I don't know why. It

781
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: was just one of those weird things, but like I don't.

782
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: I grew up as an only child as as you

783
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: did so and so I just wasn't used to like

784
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: that feast or fam and environment of like you know,

785
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: I just don't touch my things. Guys, God, we do

786
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: a segment here called Deep Thoughts with the drama Queen's Lee.

787
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna do with all our guests. Um, joy,

788
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: why don't you hit him with some deep thoughts? All right?

789
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: So Lee, Um, I would like to hear what your

790
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: favorite and least favorite storyline with your character was that

791
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: you remember. I know we were saying, you know, it's

792
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: hard to remember all them because it's a lot of

793
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: episodes and a lot of in and out. So I mean,

794
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: but whatever comes to mind. Yeah, yeah, there's too many.

795
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean that I think one of one of my

796
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: favorite I can't pin down a favorite. One of my

797
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: favorites was just the way the whole storyline with Jimmy

798
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: Edwards played out, with Colin being a friend of mine

799
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: and him coming back and doing that amazing, powerful performance

800
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: and I know you'll have him on to talk about that.

801
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: So doing that, and then like the follow up episode

802
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: where like mouth gets um I think, takes Jimmy's your

803
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: book and like gets it signed by everyone and takes

804
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: it to Jimmy Edwards mom, who was played by the sweet,

805
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: amazing actress who's in North Carolina, who's a professor E.

806
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: N c W who was just like she started crying

807
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: in the scene and I started crying. I was just like,

808
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: you know that those are that was a really that

809
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: was a favorite. I loved the relationship with Brooke. I

810
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: loved that it evolved from this him having a crush

811
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: on everything to just being you know, like like we

812
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: are like like friends, like good friends, you know, and

813
00:44:54,600 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: just um. I always loved those scenes. Um least favorite

814
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: when I mean the facts, you know, just whatever. I

815
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: can't wait till we get there. It has so much

816
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: has been made of this thing, and I can't wrap

817
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: my head around it, you know. I think the other

818
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: one that I that I sometimes crunch about was like

819
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: mouth in his he like cooked up with his boss

820
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: at the TV station, and I was just like, oh,

821
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: that's right. I was challenging that. You know. Again, it's

822
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 1: just it's hard. It's hard to come up with stree lines.

823
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: But you know, for in general, I really I had

824
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So, and what about when you're

825
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: if you have a friend who's like coming to Wilmington's,

826
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: tell us what your number one must do? I mean,

827
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: especially being a North Carolina boy, Like what what do

828
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: you tell your friend? Hey, here's what you gotta hit

829
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: when you're all about food, Um, so don't share your plate,

830
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: but you have to go to you have to go

831
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: to Brasserie and you have to get their mac and cheese,

832
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: which I just did two weeks ago, and Brassy Yes,

833
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: I love that. We all still go there. That's where

834
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: I had dinner when I was tart Um. Go there

835
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: and get them back and cheese. Go to Tower seven

836
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: and just everything there. Margarita's I would give for a

837
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: Tower seven moment right now, I know. And then sadly

838
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: Deluxe is no longer Deluxe, but the space is still there.

839
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: It's it's something it's called something else. But is it

840
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: a similar vibe from Deluxe, Yeah it is. It's still

841
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: got like that nice exposed brick bar. I mean, if

842
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: anybody really is a fan of the show and wants

843
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: to see where we like lived our lives and aired

844
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: out some some talks like the bar at at I

845
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: think it's called pinpoint now, like just sit there and like, well,

846
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: do you know when we shot the pilot, the Dawson's

847
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Creek kids were still wrapping their last season, and like

848
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: we would just watch them in the window of Dilus,

849
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: like okay, and the second they've vacated the premises, that's

850
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: when we like infiltrated and we're like, well, I guess

851
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: it's ours. I think about that bar, and I think

852
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: about that amazing line we all loved from the first

853
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: episode when Karen says that place knows too much Deluxe

854
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: Nos Deluxe and Fire Belly Fire Belly. All I'm saying is,

855
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: didn't they have like super cheap tacos at Firebelly? You

856
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: get a talk like fifty cents? Yep? Hillary, I think

857
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: you and I used to go like we would meet

858
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: each other on like, yeah, I lived a bottle. They

859
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: would order that beer Ho Garden for me because that's

860
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: the beer that I liked. And when I moved, they

861
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: gave me all the cases that they had in the basement.

862
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: They were like, no one else drinks. So if you're moving,

863
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm curious from your perspective, as I mean, you were

864
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: there with us and in so we have all these

865
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: onset memories and we were saying, it's hard. It was

866
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: hard to separate what the audience was seeing and why

867
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: the show kind of took on this pop culture zeitgeist

868
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: like phenomenal, like just went went off and blew up. God,

869
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 1: I can't talk um, but you know what I'm saying, So,

870
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: so like you know, for all of us it was

871
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: hard to really see why and how that happened and

872
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: what that was like for the audience because we were

873
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: they were all wrapped up with the behind the scenes

874
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: stuff that we were experiencing. Um. But because you were

875
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: in and out a little bit more, what can you

876
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: explain a little bit about why? Like why do you

877
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: think the show just took off the way that it

878
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: did and stuck. Yeah, that's a great question. I think

879
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: I think particularly being at Wake Forest as a senior

880
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: in college while we while the first season started airing,

881
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Like when the pilot aired, I was at Wake and

882
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: my friends like through a premier party and the like

883
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: in the auditorium and the like communications auditory in and

884
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: like my friend made cookies and you know, we're we

885
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: were in the sea. It's like watching it. And I

886
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: was like telling them all. I was like because EOC

887
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: had just come out and we were like there was

888
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: all this fanfare, and I was like, well, it's kind

889
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: of like the O C but better hopefully, and like

890
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: it's a little more like North Carolina and you know,

891
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: I just less sexy, less sexy. Um, And yeah, I

892
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: think it was an interesting perspective to be able to

893
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: see like real kids like watching it and reacting to it.

894
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: And Yeah, I think it's a it's a lot of

895
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: what you guys have touched on, I think, Um, I think,

896
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: just to be perfectly honest, I think you three are

897
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: a huge reason of why the vulnerability and the things

898
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: that you guys tapped in into his actresses. Um, it

899
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: just felt a little more real and grounded I think

900
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: than some of the other stuff that was out there. Um.

901
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: And I love that we started with that small town

902
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: feel and then it wasn't all like you know, kids

903
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: just rich kids like that. There was that sort of

904
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: soul to it. I think that's what drew you know,

905
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: all of us who had his actors even so, Yeah,

906
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: and just watching that play out at school and seeing

907
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: kids reactions, that's a lot of what I saw. But

908
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's cool to go back now and

909
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 1: watch it and as an adult and see it clicking

910
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: in different ways and as a dad and kind of

911
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: just you know, it's totally different. Yeah, now that you're

912
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: a dad, like Lee, you've done a little bit of everything.

913
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: You've done a ton of TV, you've done a ton

914
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: of movies, like like in this chapter, what would you

915
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: want to do next me. I want like a cushy

916
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: Disney Channel job where I just play a mom that

917
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: comes like wags my finger and then I go home.

918
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: You know, Like, what's what's your dream gig at this

919
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: point in your career. I don't know. I mean, I honestly,

920
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: I feel so lucky, Like I feel really fulfilled in

921
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. I mean, for me, any character

922
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: that is, like even going off and doing the little

923
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: role in Zodiac was so fun for me because it

924
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: wasn't a nice kid. It was this creepy kid who's

925
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: out with this married woman and like he's wearing three

926
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: layers of clothes and like something's up with this kid? Like,

927
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: you know, just playing certain off characters is kind of

928
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: fun for me because it's just so different than the

929
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: quintessential nice guy or nerdy character. So anything that offers

930
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: depth like that is fun. But you know, I'll still

931
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: do the nice guy stuff to you. And what's Greyhound about?

932
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: Tell us about Greg? That's your next prod. So Greyhound

933
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: was this amazing movie that was supposed to have a great,

934
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, big release in theaters pre COVID obviously, um

935
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: and so when Kovid came along and ended up. Apple

936
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: TV snapped it up and made it available. But yeah,

937
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: it's Tom Hanks. Um, Tom's just Tom Hanks. Guys leaves

938
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: off Tom Hanks in the world. He wrote the script

939
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: based on a book. UM. And you know, they asked

940
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: if I wanted to audition for it. It was like

941
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: Messenger number two, and I was like, I don't care

942
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: if it's a Messenger forty seven if I get to

943
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: hang out with Tom Hankster too, mug whatever, you know.

944
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: So I did and I was so lucky to get

945
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: to do it. And I spent two months in Louisiana

946
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: shooting with him and other guys, and we were on

947
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: this um you know, they made the fake vow of

948
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: the ship and we were on a gimbal that was

949
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: controlled electronically, so they were like shifting us around and

950
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: throwing water on us and wind. It was like a

951
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: master class to just stand five feet from Tom Hanks

952
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: and watch him day in and day out, and then

953
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: you know, go up and have my interactions with them,

954
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: and it was just it was that's one of those

955
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: jobs where it's like I don't care if this movie

956
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: ever does anything I care to make from it, Like

957
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: just to have that experience, Like, you know, I just

958
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: feel lucky that I got to watch it and see it.

959
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's on Apple TV Plus now you can

960
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: stream it if you're into World War two movies. It's

961
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: really amazing to see the navy aspects of all of it.

962
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: We got to talk to some actual World War Two

963
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: survivors that were still alive when we were shooting, and

964
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: that was like for me as I was an English

965
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: major and history buff and to get to talk to

966
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: those guys who are on the ships and hear about

967
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: their experiences was like, I mean, just ever so well,

968
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: you have to direct. Now you have to direct. You

969
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: have been doing this for so long and you have

970
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: such good instincts, like I just correct us. Yeah, let's

971
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: just do you know, let's do another Christmas movie or

972
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: reunion or something. To know, I just want to hang

973
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: out with you Christmas and Fire Belly. It'll be Taco

974
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: Christmas and Tower seven. You're in charge, and they'll be

975
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: an impromptu dance off. Oh I can't wait. I actually

976
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: wonder because we had so many great artists on the show.

977
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: So you know, you you're married, so we can't get

978
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: someone to come by your wedding but if you were

979
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: going to pick any of the artists who came and

980
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: played at Trek to do your next birthday party, is

981
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: there someone at the time or is it just the

982
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: Unyang Twins forever? Um? You know, I think, god we

983
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: had we were so spoiled. I mean with every like

984
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 1: Eryl Crowe was on the show, and um, I always

985
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: loved the Jimmy World guys. I thought those guys were

986
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: so nice, and um you know, we went down and

987
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: like saw them in Myrtle Beach and they nicely invited

988
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: us backstage. And I just love those guys and I

989
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: love their music. Um god, the music was so good.

990
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm like watching as I'm going back and watching it now.

991
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm like writing down songs and I haven't heell of

992
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: this because I'm not cool enough anymore to know like

993
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: what the good music is. So we need iPods. We're

994
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: selling Cheetah bras, We're selling joy Crystal bracelets and iPod

995
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: shuffles preloaded with all the ones. Remember you remember when

996
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: they gave us those little flip cans that were like

997
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: the little video Yeah, oh god, what were those things

998
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: called flips? They were called flips. Yeah, I'm still around

999
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: guys on those All right, we're gonna do it. We're

1000
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: gonna do an addictscavenger hunt. Okay, I know Paul still

1001
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: has his somewhere. I'm almost positive we know Antoine has

1002
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: his too. So apparently has Antoine told all of you

1003
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: guys this. He has tons of footage of us, tons

1004
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: and tons and tons, And I'm like, are you going

1005
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: to turn it into a documentary? And He's like, I

1006
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: don't know, sis, maybe and I'm just like, oh god,

1007
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: oh god, maybe maybe we should look at it. We'll

1008
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: have a screening night. I can't even imagine what he has.

1009
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: It's exciting. Um, Lee, will you come back, come back

1010
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: and just like visit us all the time. I'll come

1011
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: back anytime. You don't even have to record it. I

1012
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: just want to hang out with you, guys. I'm so

1013
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: glad you're doing this. And yeah, Andrew and I are

1014
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: going to be listening and watching along. So yes, I

1015
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: would love to kiss Andrea, kiss the baby. I love

1016
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: you guys, please, I will love you guys by ray

1017
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 1: thing Bud. I just love him so much, honestly, like Leaves,

1018
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,439
Speaker 1: who you call when you need to bury your body,

1019
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: is so good and so talented. Honestly, I'm not even

1020
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: joking when when I like, you know, kid, that he

1021
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: creates iconic characters, he does. He really understands the layers.

1022
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: I mean he built in a lot of layers into

1023
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: mouth that easily could have just been like a one

1024
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: note thing, and he built a lot of layers in

1025
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: And when you watch the way he works, you know

1026
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: he gave the same kind of dedication of character and

1027
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: empathy and intellect on our Funny Little c W show

1028
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: as he does working with David Fincher, working with Tom Hanks.

1029
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he shows up and is so just good

1030
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: and creative. I it's funny, you know when he talks

1031
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: about standing with with Tom Hanks and it feeling like

1032
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: a master class. I remember I have like flashes of

1033
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: days on set where we'd be doing something and I

1034
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: every once in a while I have a thought of,

1035
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: like you get back in the scene, because I'd be

1036
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: watching Lee work and then I'd be like, yep, I

1037
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: gotta be Brooke Davis, now, yep, okay, let me say

1038
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: my line. Like he would distract me with the ingenuity

1039
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: of the choices he would make. He never leaned into

1040
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: the Steve Rkel of it all, Do you know what

1041
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean? Like he could have easily made Mouth a joke,

1042
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: and instead he made them made him this really like

1043
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: empathetic every man that like everyone could connect to. Everybody

1044
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: wanted Mouth to win, you know, they wanted Mouth to

1045
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: get the girl. Which girl on our show? Did you

1046
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: like him with best? Kelsey? Kelsey was? How old was Kelsey?

1047
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: Because what's your character's name? Yeah, I think she's nineteen

1048
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: or maybe younger young she was like I think she

1049
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: and said she was sixteen. Maybe I think she was

1050
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: like thirteen fourteen. I think I think she was incredibly young.

1051
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know thirteen. Because there was also Erica Right, Erica, Marsha,

1052
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: Batley Bayless, yeah, talking about it, dancer Kathy Matest gosh Ma,

1053
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: and then Lizarna Shelley the cleanteen. Oh yeah, they had

1054
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: their entanglement. I just I have thought him and Gig

1055
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: were so cute together. It was cute. I loved, I

1056
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 1: loved later when he wound up with Lisa, h they're

1057
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: sweet relationship. Frankly, I'm man. I never kissed him to

1058
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: come on, damn hello, never got a shot? Um girls,

1059
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: Is it time for most likely to I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. Let who is most likely to join the CIA,

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Speaker 1: and this is characters or actors or both, anything throughout

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Speaker 1: the entire run of the show. Most likely the C

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Speaker 1: I A Berry, serious, Berry, Do you know what joint?

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Speaker 1: You're right? You're right because Barry Corbin, I want to say,

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Speaker 1: is like from New Jersey. He was like a Shakespearean actor,

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Speaker 1: Larry with his Southern accent, and he decided to become

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Speaker 1: a cowboy as an adult. Hold on a second, look

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Speaker 1: Google Barry Corbin, and he created this whole other persona

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Speaker 1: and it worked, and it tricked out who he is now. No,

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Speaker 1: it says here he was born in Texas, but he

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Speaker 1: told me he lived New Jersey for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he was in the CIA when he was in Jersey.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying stories. I will say though, after our analysis

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Speaker 1: of Lee Norris's incredible acting skills, I feel like he'd

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Speaker 1: be great in the CIA. Oh yeah, he could pull

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Speaker 1: it off for sure, as like one of those actors,

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Speaker 1: like you know, they've been doing it since the forties.

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Speaker 1: I guess they would have actors. Betty Gray Bowl was

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Speaker 1: was working for you know, so they fly over and

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Speaker 1: you just go to a restaurant for dinner, but you're

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Speaker 1: actually like passing off a package to somebody in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: I think we could pull that off. Yeah, because he can.

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Speaker 1: He can be the life of the party, and he

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01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: can completely you know, put his three layers on and

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Speaker 1: disappear in the corner and it. Oh, I wish he

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Speaker 1: was still here. We should do this with our guests

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Speaker 1: next time. All right, So which character would join the CIA?

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Speaker 1: We have a couple of teammates, but who is elusive?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Karen disappeared for a very long time and

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Speaker 1: came back with a man that none of us knew,

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Speaker 1: like Andy, and she had a whole other life that

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Speaker 1: we never got to see. She was definitely in the

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Speaker 1: c I a Michael Truco's character who suddenly appeared at

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Speaker 1: it like nobody need. Yeah, I'm not complaining. Tru was

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Speaker 1: a Cooper. Truca was such a babe. It's such a babe.

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Speaker 1: Um else. Yeah, those feel like real good choices to me. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're good at this game. Alright to play again next week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us. Episode three of One

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Speaker 1: Tree Hill. We're so excited to watch it. Come back

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Speaker 1: next week and watch watch another, watch another and talk

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Speaker 1: with us about it. Well, listen to us talk, but

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Speaker 1: you know we want to hear your thoughts too, so

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Speaker 1: and reach out to us. Yeah, I'm guys. We are

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Speaker 1: loving your feedback on socials, hearing about your realizations and

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Speaker 1: the scenes you had forgotten about, and your work and

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Speaker 1: even you all talking to us about some of the

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Speaker 1: things we've said. I mean, we're just buds talking to

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Speaker 1: each other. We forget and then you'll quote us on

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Speaker 1: Twitter and I'm like, oh my god, we did say

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Speaker 1: this week. Do you know? So real quick? We're gonna

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Speaker 1: end with this. My son finally after all these years,

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Speaker 1: thinks I'm cool. Because do you know who follows drama

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Speaker 1: queens on Twitter? John Cena? No, step he does know,

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Speaker 1: John Cena. If you're listening, Come hey, girl, you can

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Speaker 1: you can hang with us, girl, Yeah, John Cena, Come

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Speaker 1: hang on our show and tell us all about why

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Speaker 1: you love it, all about that high school drama. Girl drama, girl,

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Speaker 1: all about them high school queens. We'll take you for

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Speaker 1: a ride in our comic girl Cheering for the drama

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Speaker 1: queens up girl fashion. But you'll tough, girl, You can

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Speaker 1: sit with us, Girl Drama Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queen's

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Speaker 1: Drama John mc Queen's Drama, Queens