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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson and our

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Speaker 1: special guest Tom Offerman. Today here is a little bit. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think the possibility of rain maybe maybe held the

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Speaker 1: crowd back a little bit today. Maybe some people looked

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Speaker 1: at the uh, the forecast and said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make a trip. Still a good still

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Speaker 1: a good crowd. Yeah, several thousand people here watching practice,

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Speaker 1: a lot of kids, a lot of kids. Yeah, school

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Speaker 1: still out at this point. And uh, why wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: want to come out here and say, actually, today is

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Speaker 1: a perfect day to come out and watch practice. If

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Speaker 1: you just watching, I'd prefer this than the degree day

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Speaker 1: like Tom, and we'd rather have it the other way.

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Speaker 1: But absolutely, Yeah, the Steelers just wrapping up a special

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Speaker 1: team session. Um, excellent environment though, excellent environment, and uh,

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Speaker 1: a great place to come out, get autographs, talk to

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Speaker 1: the players, do that all that kind of stuff, because

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Speaker 1: that's what this is about. And um, you know this

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Speaker 1: benefits of fans a lot. I mean mostly most teams

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Speaker 1: don't have enough situation at all, Like this, Yeah, absolutely. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Larry Ogan job he was asked about that yesterday what

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Speaker 1: he thought of coming out to a college campus like

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Speaker 1: and she said, well, this is all new to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, this would be my sixth year in the

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Speaker 1: league and I've never gone off off facility to outside

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Speaker 1: of the team facility. It's not money anymore, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: they spend so much money on the facility. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got to use them, but what you don't have then

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Speaker 1: but then they go home to their family. She's good

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Speaker 1: or bad, you know. I mean, so that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things that Mike Tomlin has talked about, uh with

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Speaker 1: this is like, hey, the practice time is the practice time, um,

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Speaker 1: but it's the time after practice where you got the

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Speaker 1: the young guys sitting out with on the stoop with

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Speaker 1: the old guys, or they're sitting out in the in

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Speaker 1: the main common area, you know, in the lobby, and

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Speaker 1: you get a chance to talk and and and tell

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Speaker 1: stories and and do all that kind of stuff that

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Speaker 1: that it's the bonding. You know. Cam Heyward brought up

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Speaker 1: a bunch of board games for his guys to play.

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Speaker 1: If you're like, yeah, that's that's how he had decorated

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Speaker 1: his room from the ceiling, dripping water everywhere. So these

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Speaker 1: guys are a lot of these guys are are so

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Speaker 1: young that they probably never even played a board game

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Speaker 1: like if you play, like what the hell is that

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Speaker 1: I played that once on TV on the on like

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Speaker 1: Monopoly or something. Well, that's what Susian was saying on

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Speaker 1: when he joined the Blitz with Youler most before us

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Speaker 1: just eaves dropping in. You know, he loved coming back

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Speaker 1: here and feeling those same memories that you were kind

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Speaker 1: of describing. Those other guys talk about, you know, you

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Speaker 1: getting the golf cart and your race on the way

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Speaker 1: home from launching dinner and stuff like you pull a

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Speaker 1: prank on a roommate and stuff like that. You don't

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Speaker 1: get that, like you said, Matt, when you just show

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Speaker 1: up to the facility, claw out and go home to

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Speaker 1: your family and then you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: anybody else and telling you I am again the next morning.

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Speaker 1: Playing a prank on your wife or girlfriends doesn't go

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Speaker 1: as well, right, It's tend to frown on that. And

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Speaker 1: you can look at it two ways. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: could sleep in your own bed, you know, you some

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Speaker 1: home cooking, you see your kids, you're happier human being.

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Speaker 1: But also there's distractions and there's people bugging you because

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Speaker 1: because your kids go out if you wanted to at night,

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Speaker 1: people want things from you. I mean you could potentially

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Speaker 1: get in more trouble. I mean you could go out,

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Speaker 1: you know, those type of things too. So I mean

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Speaker 1: here it's just football and camaraderie. I mean that's the

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Speaker 1: only thing you're getting when you're a player. And what's

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Speaker 1: a better thing, whether it's two better things to add

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Speaker 1: to a player or a team going into an NFL season,

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Speaker 1: then getting better at the game and getting to know

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Speaker 1: each other better. Absolutely, So I think that's something that's

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Speaker 1: that many wins or anything like that. Right, they've been

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Speaker 1: super Bowl champs if they would come here like because

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Speaker 1: everybody else was in the same boat. Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: when I was with the Browns, we just walked right

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Speaker 1: It was convenient. You know, they were at their same

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Speaker 1: And but then they went home at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, just like it was in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the season. So I mean, you can make arguments good

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Speaker 1: if you drop some truth serum in these players drinks,

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Speaker 1: though more so than not, they'd lean towards This is

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Speaker 1: pretty fun. Like I get, you know, sucks sleeping on

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Speaker 1: no doubt that is made for almost every one of

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Speaker 1: these players. There will be made. Since a lot of

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Speaker 1: these players are new here at St. Vincent. These next

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Speaker 1: couple you probably noticed this, Tom, but you'll you'll definitely

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Speaker 1: notice it, you know, the rest of the the camp, because

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are kind of us to bring us legends,

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Speaker 1: you know, these guys that were here supersteel or seventies,

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Speaker 1: and they come back here and you get us telling

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Speaker 1: their voice. It's a very fond memory. But it wasn't

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Speaker 1: an easy memory. Yeah, right, right, right right. I mean

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. It's so much different now. I

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Speaker 1: mean they're in an air condition, nuns aren't cooking right right,

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Speaker 1: right right, yeah. I mean so it's a little cushier

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Speaker 1: um as it should be. But as T. J. Wattson

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Speaker 1: great thing about this. The Steelers have been here in

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Speaker 1: head shots. And then he talked to him until Merril

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Speaker 1: it was selfish and it was, it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a monumental day. Uh. You know the Oklahoma drills that

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Speaker 1: the great plays, great players, uhayers and coaches and owners

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Speaker 1: and the whole deal. And you know they've won six

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Speaker 1: to two others, so it's a big deal. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: The guys would just throw their shoulder pads and helmet off.

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Speaker 1: But they're still got their football pants and cleats on

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Speaker 1: gonna do curls today or whatever. The heck it was,

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Speaker 1: in your guys opinion, because of course you've been around

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Speaker 1: value kind of lesson? Do you think? I mean, of

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Speaker 1: course there's still value there, but we're talking back in

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Speaker 1: over two months long. I think lessons probably the worst.

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Speaker 1: They were playing like like six to eight preseason games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think of wrong word for me. Lesson just different now,

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Speaker 1: like you're expected now to come in and pass that

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Speaker 1: because you're not trying to. They don't even barely need

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Speaker 1: better have something physically wrong with you if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: because otherwise you're in deep trouble. Or they're paying them

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Speaker 1: so much more, and you know their job is year round.

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Speaker 1: It's not exactly right, and there's so many other facilities

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Speaker 1: not even comparing to the sixties. I mean even the

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Speaker 1: Corrielle offenses or the Walshaw offenses that seemed very complex

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Speaker 1: for their day, they're not nearly as complex as these

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Speaker 1: play calls and you know, yeah, or the defensive you know,

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Speaker 1: different coverages they run. And so I think it's more

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Speaker 1: mentally taxing, not necessarily, you know, the mental anguish that

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Speaker 1: to the board, to the to the field is harder

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Speaker 1: now than it's. A physical box is already checked when

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Speaker 1: you show up here, Yeah, should show your piece and

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Speaker 1: keys check, you know, mentally playbook wise things like that,

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Speaker 1: Hey player X, your job is to show up here

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Speaker 1: physically ready. Yeah, we're not here to get you physically ready,

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Speaker 1: that's going here. You have a little more team drill here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I I don't think team. I don't think every position

428
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Speaker 1: group is in their own I mean, like there's guys

429
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Speaker 1: out there's a d lineman running streets right now, right.

430
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 1: I think it was just kind of doing their own thing. Yeah,

431
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: so I was told that this was going to be

432
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Speaker 1: a short practice today. I think, Ay, they want to

433
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Speaker 1: beat the storm. This is why we have it on site. Producer.

434
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: By the way, absolutely, I'm waving. Yeah, he's gonna go

435
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 1: get Billy. That's that's good stuff there, except he's where

436
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: he's going to get Billy and he's wearing a pen stage.

437
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 1: He might not know how Billy is to break him in. Yeah,

438
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: he's still he's on his way over now, we get

439
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: we get Billy over here, get my head set, we

440
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: get the extra extra one right stuff. Yeah, absolutely, professionals here, man,

441
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: we'll get Billy's thoughts on this opening practice here. Uh

442
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: the voice of God, Bill Hill Growth coming over to

443
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: join us here. But yeah, it does look like practice

444
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: is effect over here. So they did get done a

445
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: little early. They are done, but that's fine. There's a

446
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: lot of guys working on their own. Yeah, absolutely, as

447
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: there should be. Billy, how are you, my friend? Let's

448
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 1: get the hand off like that. I thought it was

449
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: a Bill Coward coaching moment and practice was going to

450
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 1: restart and then all of a sudden it's over. Yeah,

451
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: were just saying how confused we were. We were like, well,

452
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: this is an early exit for the Steelers practice on

453
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: day one, but none of the players want to leave.

454
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: It looked like they're a lot there getting some work done.

455
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: That's what you want to see, Matt. Oh, you want

456
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: to see that. You have to drag these guys off

457
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: the field, especially at first practice. Yeah. Absolutely, So what

458
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: you see out there, Billy, would you like? Um? I

459
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: liked a couple of things that I saw, just remarked

460
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. Now that's what he can do for you.

461
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: He broke out of the pocket and picked up positive yardage.

462
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: Next play, he throws it to what Trey Norwood picked

463
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: it or somebody on the defense picked it. And uh,

464
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: that's that's what happens when you're Yeah, absolutely rookie, You're

465
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: only as good as your last play. But that that's

466
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: for anybody. Yeah. Absolutely. You have a unique perspective obviously

467
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: on Kenny Pickett, with your your pit ties and whatnot.

468
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: What do you think Steeler fans are getting there? Uh?

469
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: Something you can't coach, you can't teach, you can't measure.

470
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: It's hard. Yeah, And uh, about a month and a

471
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: half ago, I had the opportunity to play golf with

472
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: Merle ha Uh in an event up in Indiana Country Club,

473
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: and we had plenty of time to talk. And you know,

474
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: he still works for the league, so he still has

475
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: access to all the footage and he watches a lot

476
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: of it. And I said, what about Kenny? He said, Um,

477
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: two things jump off the tape. He makes good decisions

478
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: and he's accurate. And I said, well, what about all

479
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: that stuff with mel Kiper and the experts saying that

480
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: Malik willis the kid from Liberty would go ahead of him?

481
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 1: He said, well, I watched a lot of tape on

482
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: Malik and he's a good quarterback with two exceptions. He's

483
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: not very accurate and he doesn't make good and well

484
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: you know then that and that's why he went six. Yeah,

485
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: it was just a weird draft that way with the quarterbacks,

486
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: because you don't typically see quarterbacks the top quarterbacks fall

487
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: into the third round like that. When everybody was talking

488
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: and and people said, well, I see that they weren't

489
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 1: supposed to be first runner guys. The league doesn't invite

490
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Speaker 1: those guys to the green room at the draft thinking

491
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: that they're going to go in the third round. And

492
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: Williston and uh, I believe I think it. Yeah, they were.

493
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: They were invited to the draft, so the league thought

494
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: that they were going to go first round, early second

495
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: round somewhere in that right. They don't want those guys

496
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: sitting there well in the day two. That's why gms

497
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: get paid much more than we do. Yeah, the money

498
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: that they make, because you know, they have to live

499
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: with their decisions, and if you don't make good decisions,

500
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: you don't live long. And that's just the nature of

501
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: the beast. And you know, I think and I as

502
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: a media person, yeah, I have my opinion, but I

503
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: defer to the people that get paid to make those decisions.

504
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: And if okay, I can question it, I can, you know,

505
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: just be astounded. But in the meantime, that's who makes

506
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: a decision. And wait, we've seen great examples of gms

507
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: who made not only one, but two or three bad decisions.

508
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the detro red Lions, the same

509
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: one with Matt Millen, you know, I mean the time again,

510
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: but uh, and I think I saw one this week

511
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. I hear, I mean, I don't know, but

512
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: I hear things like he doesn't necessarily get along with

513
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: his offensive line. What right? Kind of a big deal?

514
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 1: Those lookout blocks are devastating real quick. On Kenny again.

515
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he may not be the next Ben Roethlisberger,

516
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, eighteen year starter, all that stuff, But boy,

517
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: would it shock me if he was a flop. It

518
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: would shock me, It would really shock I saw enough

519
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: of him. Uh, And I saw him in the thing

520
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: about the hands fumblelitis. It's a joke. Probably the reason

521
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: that he felt to the Steelers. I bet it's scared.

522
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: I bet it scared the Saints and it scared the Panthers.

523
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: But you know, he I like his personality. I like

524
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: his uh maturity. And I go back when he was

525
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: a freshman and they're playing Miami and it's I think

526
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: the score was I think pitt was ahead, and they're

527
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: marching and they really need a touchdown to you know,

528
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: get into double digits. And it's fourth and I thought

529
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: five at the twenty two yard line and Pikett called

530
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: the play and he told the running back and I

531
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 1: don't remember which running back it was, look, you and

532
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: me know that I'm going to keep it so you know,

533
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: you you you are the play call, and you're gonna

534
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: get a thick And he said, when I went to

535
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and I saw where the safeties were,

536
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking first down. I was thinking touchdown. And

537
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: darned if he didn't make the piline, you know. And

538
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: I was a freshman. His football, like you, is pretty high.

539
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And and uh, you know, very mature

540
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: young man, good head on his shoulders and and and

541
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: gets it. And I think another quarter out there with

542
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: new Whisky and his wife out there with their with

543
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: their with their new that's a pretty cool scene there

544
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: with his teammates and their young kids. Yeah, pretty cool

545
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: and I think it's Mitch's job to lose. I don't

546
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: expect Kenny to play, but I saw again, I guess

547
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: Vegas puts odds on everything that Kenny uh is the

548
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: odds on favorite to be offensive rookie of the Year.

549
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: And I felt, We'll wait a minute, is he gonna

550
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: play stuff to do that? And then I see that

551
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: the Browns are fourteen to want to win the Super Bowl.

552
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: They don't know who their quarterbacks, right, they're hoping they

553
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah, that's all I mean. Yeah, you're trying

554
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: to get money on both sides, and exactly that's the

555
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: way that goes. That's what Vegas does. They don't care

556
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: who wins or who loses. They want you to bet

557
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: they didn't build those palaces out there losing money. I

558
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: once talked to a very stage man who said, Billy,

559
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's a good reason that bookies drive Cadillacs

560
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: and spend winners in Florida because a lot of sports

561
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: fans think they can predict the future, and uh, we can't. Well,

562
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: let's talk about that bill. Because the over under for

563
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: this team is seven and a half wins. I think

564
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: it's I think it's like I don't know that i'd

565
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: make that bet. I would make two bets, and just

566
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: because the odds, i'd bet them to win the division,

567
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: you know, future props. I think another bet I know

568
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: i'd make right now. They won't finish last in that division.

569
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: They will not, but everybody's picking them. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

570
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, you've been doing this almost as long as me.

571
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: I think I started. I started ninety three, you started,

572
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: I did, but I was here in talking about just

573
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: doing your current No, no, no, yes, what were you doing? Yeah?

574
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: You were here with your parents just like it's like

575
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: it's good. But I mean, you've seen this long enough

576
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: to know. I mean, I've there's been three losing seasons

577
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: in the last twenty nine years. That doesn't happen. That

578
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: doesn't happen by accident. It's it's the program, in the

579
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: in the just the the general feeling around that the

580
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: team and the culture helps build that as well. Culture

581
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: is a great word. Yeah. Um, Steelers fans are spoiled

582
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: and deservedly so. Uh four and twelve now four and

583
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: third team would be unthinkable. The worst we've seen a

584
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: six and ten six and ten was ninety nine. I

585
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: think I blocked that out of my memory. There was

586
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: seven and nine, six and ten, and then they got

587
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: a back right away went nine and seven and two

588
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen and three and two thousand one. It

589
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: wasn't they weren't down long. And yet you know, the

590
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: naysayers will point out their playoff record in the last

591
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: six times or whatever, and okay, yeah, but the fact

592
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: that this team made the playoffs last year tells you

593
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: something about the culture. That was not a very good

594
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: football team. I mean, the fact they got in is amazing.

595
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: The smoking mirrors and losses and ties, and you know,

596
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: in the last two decades you could probably count on

597
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: one handed number of teams that finished dead last and

598
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: rush defense that made the playoffs. Oh, we had a

599
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: winning record, even it wasn't like the offense carried. Yeah.

600
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: I think Miles Jack is going to help that. And

601
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: I think you gotta keep Tyson healthy because they're not

602
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: real you know, they're not real deep there a matter

603
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: of fact, entirely on defense, they're not real deep anywhere,

604
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: especially in the secondary. But I think it will be

605
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: an improved defense, certainly against the run. Yeah, I think

606
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: there'll be much better on offense. Do you have enough weapons. Uh, okay,

607
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 1: you can't let Naji touch the ball the number of

608
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: times you did last year, So you gotta find somebody

609
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: to carry some of that load. And that's one of

610
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: the questions. Who is it. We don't know, Uh, you know,

611
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: he might not even be in this camp the Oh yeah,

612
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: well that's true. Good point. It could be somebody from

613
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: outside that comes in. And because it's running back, you know,

614
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: running back. We've seen him sign running backs in the

615
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: past and that guy ends up starting the next week. Right,

616
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: if you were do you run right? You know this,

617
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: it's not a real difficult you know, they don't really

618
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: right now, if you run left, you run right, and

619
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: you get hit every place. You better be able to block.

620
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: And oh that's what I love about Maggie. He's willing

621
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: to be a good blocker. You know that play against

622
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: Cleveland last year, We're been through the touchdown pastor Friar

623
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: muth uh Myles Garrett is reaching for the ball. Then

624
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's not in the play. Nay

625
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: cleared him out. You mentioned culture, Billy, and I think

626
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: this environment St. Vincent's is a whole really contributes to

627
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: that too. We were talking about how unique that is.

628
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, do you agree that that helps build the

629
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: culture from practice number one on? You know, right, I

630
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: just talked to Carl Dunbar. He said, it's a blessing

631
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: to be back here. Talked to Father Paul. You know,

632
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: this is good. This is a good way of us

633
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: to kind of push COVID aside and look forward, you know,

634
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: And I think everybody feels that way. And you guys

635
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: were at the camp at the stadiums and it was nothing.

636
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: You're not close to the players. You don't hear the hits,

637
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: you don't hear the yelling, and it was weird. And

638
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: this is a different nice to be back here. It's

639
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: a whole different vibe when you're in the stadium for

640
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: the players even I mean you could see it. They

641
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: just you know, and even that they you know, they

642
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: had your classrooms all through the stadium and got you know,

643
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: it's just here. They're all in the same dorm, they

644
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: all have to go to the cafeteria, they're they're just

645
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: together twenty four hours a day for for three weeks,

646
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: with one exception. I talked to an assistant coach and

647
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: he said, it's the best office I ever had. Because

648
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: it's a luxury box best office I ever. Yeah, this

649
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: is I think this sets a tone for the season,

650
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: and uh it's it's it's a you get the fan support.

651
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: But more importantly, I think you get away from town,

652
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: away from downtown Pittsburgh, you get out here and you

653
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: become more of a together unit. And I just think

654
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: that's very important, you know, team bonding. You hear the talking,

655
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: but it's true, especially with how young they are. You know,

656
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: this is a team that's transitioning to establish him. That

657
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: offense has no leader, right, I mean was talking about yesterday,

658
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I got to be the leader because there is no leader,

659
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: but they'll emerge pretty good choice. He looks like se

660
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: Kwon Berkley. Yeah, and even he isn't the starter or not.

661
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean when I'm sitting here watching Kenny Pickett is

662
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: getting you know, swamped by kids, and he's he's signing

663
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: autograph after autograph, I mean, well, it takes it takes

664
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: a heat off Mitch. He has obvious leadership traits. If

665
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: and when his time comes, you know, well sure for

666
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: this team, I hope it's later than sooner, absolutely, but

667
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: you never know in this league, and you just never know.

668
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: In football because everybody's here by a play and if

669
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: things go wrong, your season could be done. Absolutely, but Billy,

670
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: we appreciate you stop him by. Was a pleasure to

671
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: talk with the voice of God. And my favorite is

672
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: when he when I get on the I get on

673
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Speaker 1: the tram at the airport. You know, if I said,

674
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: I see, I hear that the Dulcia tones of Bill

675
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: hill Grove, welcome to me to Pittsburgh. I gotta figure

676
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: out a way to get a statue there, like Franco

677
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: and that other guy. That the other guy I was

678
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: like thirty years old to I knewho the other guy was.

679
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: Franco was five. We're gonna take a break. That was

680
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: Bill hill Grove. Of course, the voice of the Steelers.

681
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: You always hear him on the broadcast and uh gets

682
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: a plenty of play with that. Of course, that's Tom Offerman,

683
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Speaker 1: He's Matt Williamson and I am Dale Lala. You're listening

684
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Steelers just

685
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: wrapping up their first official practice here of this training

686
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: camp two thousand two or twenty two. He's losing my

687
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: just buzzing and fans getting some autographs here doing all

688
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 1: that fun stuff. We'll get some guys on the field practicing,

689
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: doing all that kind of stuff. You're taking some catch

690
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: us some footballs over there is a Deante Johnson still

691
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: over there working product. Gettlet working. But we're gonna take

692
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: a break. We'll be back with more right after this.

693
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: Let's go play some ball. Always talking Black and Gold

694
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: football on SNR. Budweiser wants you to drink wise. And

695
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You are already drinking wise by designating

696
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: a driver or getting a ride home after a night out.

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00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: That means the overwhelming majority of you choose to not

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Speaker 1: drink and drives to have fun. We'll make a plan

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Speaker 1: to get home safe, be a passenger and not the driver.

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Speaker 1: The good news is that most of you are already

701
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Speaker 1: making the right choice. But what would be even better

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Speaker 1: is for everyone to drink wise. Enjoy response Anheuser Busch

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Speaker 1: Budweiser Beer. St. Louis, Missouri. This is the Drive with

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00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home of the Black

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00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: Lally here with Matt Williamson and Tom Opferman. This is

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00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and the Steelers finishing

708
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: up their first official practice here at St. Penncent College.

709
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: Apparently a couple of minor issues here. Uh. Miles killer

710
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: Brew did not finish practice. He was dealing with would

711
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: you say that was a little hip injine? And then

712
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: t D T D Moultrie, who's an outside linebacker trying

713
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: to make this roster, dealing with some cramps. Uh. He

714
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: left this practice as well. But that's it for today. Uh.

715
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: Deante Johnson, however, guys did not participate in the team

716
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: portion of practice. Interesting especially after Tomlin's comments yesterday, Tomlin's

717
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: comments and this morning, Um, when Johnson talked, he said

718
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: that you know he he planned on practicing. Um, you know,

719
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: maybe the maybe his representatives got to him and said, hey,

720
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: let's let's not let's not do anything here and see

721
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: what happens. He did stuff, He did stuff. I mean

722
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: I was watching he was out there work. Yeah, it's

723
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: not like he's not out there doing anything. He broke away. Yeah,

724
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: once they once they went to eleven on elevens. He

725
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: did not do any of that. That's where you need

726
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: him the most, right, I mean, that's sure like this

727
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: new trio of wide receivers in and you're missing potentially

728
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: your top dog. Yeah, and and that I guess we'll

729
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: see where the pats come on. As I said, I

730
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: might putting looking too much into it for one practice,

731
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: because it wasn't like he was just staying around doing nothing.

732
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Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how t J handled his same way.

733
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean he did. He did. He was out there

734
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: sweating and working. He did drills, position drills, and then

735
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: he didn't do any of the team stuff. He'd be

736
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: on the sideline, like doing individuals moves. The just more

737
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: likely to have someone step on here or whatever. There's

738
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: a lot more bodies around. You know. I wouldn't look

739
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: too much into it, but maybe there's a contract in

740
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: the works or who's to say. Yeah, I mean, we'll see.

741
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: Maybe he's you know, trying to force you. He said

742
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: he'd like you know this morning, he said, look, I

743
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: I want to be here, this is where I want

744
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: to be at, but I also want to be a leader.

745
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: I've talked to the other guys who've been through this situation.

746
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: So he's talked to t J. Watt, he's talked to

747
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: make it Fitzpatrick, he's talked. He said, Cam Heyward as well,

748
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: who've been through these contracts situations just to kind of

749
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Speaker 1: get a feel for things and how, uh you know,

750
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Speaker 1: how to approach this. He said, Look, I I want

751
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: to be a leader on this team. I want to

752
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: be you know, I'm the guy that the other receivers

753
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: look up to. They come and talk to me, they

754
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: asked me questions. Um, you know, yeah, I mean he's

755
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: an established guy. Um you know, coming off a hundred

756
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: and seven catch season. There's only been four players in

757
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: team history who have caught a hundred passes in a season,

758
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: and he's one of them. Uh, the others being heines Ward,

759
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown who did it I think five times, and

760
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster. Uh. You know, he said he wants

761
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: to match at least match those numbers catch wise from

762
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: last year, but improve on some of the other stuff.

763
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: Not as many drops, which I think he had five

764
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 1: or six last year, which was down from yeah stretch

765
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: of year before, half as many as he had the

766
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: year before. Uh, you know, increase that yard per catch

767
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: that goes into the some of the play action stuff

768
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: that we talked about should help that. But he also

769
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: talked about how this is a different receiving group than

770
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: last year's group, and that he feels like all these

771
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: guys can play all three spots. They can play on

772
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: either inside or outside. Uh, you know, the the ex receiver,

773
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: the WY receiver doesn't really matter because they all can

774
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: can do it. And he says, I'm not saying anything

775
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: bad about last year's group, but they couldn't always do that.

776
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Speaker 1: When you broke the huddle, when Raymary McLoud was on

777
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: the field, you knew Raybaray McLoud was going to be

778
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: in the slot. Yeah, And frankly, Juju is not a

779
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: whole lot different. He's a type of player, but I

780
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: mean he's he's a slot. He's a power slot. Do

781
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: you think Pickens can thrive in the slot? I feel

782
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: that was one more of an outside guy I could see.

783
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: I've heard you talk about that before, Matt. You think

784
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: his is going to be outside? I mean, Deonte knows

785
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: better than I do he's in the position. Rooms. I

786
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: just don't think Pickens is a slot, And in a

787
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: way I mean that as a compliment because I think

788
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: he's a traditional one X. You know, the guy you

789
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: draw up to be beat man coverage at the line

790
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. You know, get a high portion of passes.

791
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm extremely high on him. Could he play in the slot,

792
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: of course he could, And Frankly, Deonte is not a

793
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: super slot guy either, I mean, can he of course

794
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: they can line up all over the place and they

795
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: probably will get slots, spots, snaps in the slot. But

796
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the best usage for them, you know,

797
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: either one of them, especially Pickings. I think Pickings is

798
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: an outside guy, and you think slats into that slot

799
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: a lot more smoothly than the other two. I think

800
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest things to watch in camp

801
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: because if he can and he'll block, you know, that's

802
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: what Juju brought to the CHA hasn't done here. I

803
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: think it could really rejuvenize his career. Um, they have

804
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: other options, Miller, Austin, mean, some other guys that can

805
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: do this lot stuff. But I think it's a golden

806
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: opportunity for Claypool that I hope he embraces and this

807
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: do than say I'm a downfield, outside the numbers guy

808
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: and instead be more like a Travis Kelsey than you know,

809
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, you know what I mean. Yeah, you see

810
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of those bigger receivers, especially if things don't

811
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: work out for them. Early there was something Antonio Golden Gandy, Yeah, Gandy,

812
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: Golden Gandy, Golden, a couple of who's in the draft

813
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I just saw a story

814
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: about him over the weekend. He's now going to transition

815
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: to tight end. Yeah, you know, because they can do

816
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: that because they have that size. Because again, yeah, it's

817
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: not much different being that tight end, you know, in

818
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: the slot as opposed to being a wide receiver. People

819
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: get caught up in the T slash wide you know,

820
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: w R next to there. They're all doing the same job.

821
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Fire is gonna lae up in the slot of fair

822
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: amount this year for sure. Detached, Yeah, I would think so.

823
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: So I think we'll see a lot of bodies there.

824
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: I think their best approach, if it works out this way,

825
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: is Deonte and Pickens on the outside, claypool in the middle.

826
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Speaker 1: Because one thing that has changed a little bit with

827
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Speaker 1: the slot world. Everyone thinks of Welker's and Edelman's is

828
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: slot and that's great. They're they're really hard to defend.

829
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: You give a shifty guy like that a two way

830
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: go right off the ball, that's really, really hard to defend.

831
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: That being said, those guys aren't very fast, you know,

832
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: like they don't get down field, they don't run a

833
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: vertical seam route, you know, forty yards down the field,

834
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: and they don't block anybody. So the league is going

835
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: towards these wide receiver tight end you know, hybrids, Gasecki's

836
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: guys like that that will at least get in the

837
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: way a linebackers. They're not Mark Brunner blockers. Claypool I

838
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: think fits that really well. But they can get down field.

839
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: They can also take the hit from a linebacker better

840
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: than a welker. I mean, Welcer gets hitting the teeth

841
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: by you know, Ray Lewis. That's not so great. You

842
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: know where Claypool and those guys can hold up a

843
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: little bit better. It's also one of the reasons why

844
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: and because of the short so many short passes to

845
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: take us all the way back around the something we

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Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the show. Slot receivers drop a

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Speaker 1: lot more passes because Welcome and Pan and Allen lead

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Speaker 1: the league in drops last year. Because we get hit

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Speaker 1: by big people in traffic. You know, it does meybe

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Speaker 1: their hands are bad of the most shorehanded receiver in

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Speaker 1: the NFL leads the league just because of the product

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Speaker 1: of the Bayeah. It's all about volume as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're thrown a hundred and seventy passes, yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna drop a cup. Right. The guys that don't

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Speaker 1: get targeted don't don't leave the league and dropped. But

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Speaker 1: I think that applies to the Aante too. I mean

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Speaker 1: in terms of he demands targets, targets are earned. He

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Speaker 1: absolutely demands targets, and his targets have been contested or

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Speaker 1: you know, middle of the field danger zone. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've said this a lot, like when's the last time

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Speaker 1: he saw Deante Johnson just run an old school out route,

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Speaker 1: catch the ball, get pushed out of bounds. Like that

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Speaker 1: part of the offense hasn't been there. He's getting hitting

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Speaker 1: the over the middle and everyone knows where the ball

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Speaker 1: is going. You're gonna drop more balls that way. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see how that part

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Speaker 1: of the offense, how that part of this competition continues

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Speaker 1: to develop. And and you know, is there a room

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Speaker 1: for an Anthony Miller in that conversation, a guy that's

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Speaker 1: more of a true slat um. You know, depending what

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Speaker 1: kind of slot corner you get, right, might you might

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Speaker 1: get the big safety that Anthony Miller, you know, jukes

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Speaker 1: him out of his shoes time and time again. Or

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Speaker 1: some some teams like the Bills will go guard slots

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Speaker 1: with linebackers. Well that might be a Miller game, you know.

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Speaker 1: But if you're getting Hilton or a five seven type

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Speaker 1: corner around, Yeah, so there's more off creating matchups. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think that that's gonna be something that's definitely

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch here as this camp goes on.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take another break, guys, you know, we're two

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Speaker 1: hours long line right along, but we'll be back with

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Speaker 1: our number three here finishing off the show. He is

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Speaker 1: Tom Offerman, that's Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lala. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the drive here from Steelers training camp. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers finishing up their first official practice session here today

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Speaker 1: just a few minutes ago. Uh So we'll keep you here,

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Speaker 1: give you all the updates when everything that's going on.

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Speaker 1: Continue to do that here as we take you through

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Speaker 1: the five o'clock hour. Um, lots of good stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: short practice, but joining us there in that previous segment

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Speaker 1: as well, but we'll be back with more right after

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Speaker 1: this