1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Welcome the Inside with the Insiders alongside Mike Garafollo, I 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: am Tom Pellicero. We are now just sixty five days 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: away from kickoff of the twenty twenty four NFL regular season. 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Three weeks from today, Mike, most teams will be reporting 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: to training camp. We got a pack show to celebrate 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: and discuss all of it. Packers running back, Josh Jacobs, 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: one of the biggest free agency moves. He's going to 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: be on this show, given us his thoughts on Jordan Love, 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: that crowded Packers backfield, and a whole lot more. We'll 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: talk about the Jets and the Cowboys, the Giants, the Panthers, 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons, tons more. 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: But let's start out. 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Let's we come up on the fourth July holiday, the 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: last break for a lot of NFL people, with. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: A discussion about one of the fireworks. 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: That could go off between now and training catch you 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: get it, Mike, because there's fireworks on the fourth. This 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: one would involve Josh Jacobs's new quarterback. It is indeed 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. Jordan Love. Any Packers have been in conversations 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: about a contract extension to this point has not sounded 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: like anything is accelerating. That's kind of the way that 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Green Bay historically has gone about these deals. But Mike, 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: when you've got a potential franchise quarterback who played like 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Love did down the stretch and he's due eleven 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: million dollars as part of that band aid deal he 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: did a year ago, I would be surprised, not shocked, 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: but surprised if they can't find a way to work 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: something out before the season. 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: Well, we've got Josh Jacobs coming up on the show 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: in just a little bit. We should ask him about 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: Jordan Love, and when we do, maybe he'll say something 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: to the effect of, quote, he's going to be the 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: next superstar in this league for sure, end quote. Just 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: gonna have a feeling about that regarding Josh Jacobs. So 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: the Packers versually feel the same way they have had 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: shown their confidence in Josh and excuse me, Jordan Love 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: when they drafted him, when they made the decision to 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: move on from Aaron Rodgers. And then when you get 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: to the negotiating table, you know what happens. All that 40 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: good stuff that you said and you did for the 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: last couple of years, and all that confidence you showed 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: comes back at you, and the agent and the players say, hey, 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: remember when you thought of us, and you still think 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: of us, Well, you know what, if you're the Packers, 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: you may have to do this deal out a number 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: that could rival Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence at the 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: top of the market, could even potentially surpass it, even 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: though he's got one year of starting experience, because if 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: you don't do it and you wait a year, the 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: price only goes up, and now you're into the potentially 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: the sixties. So yeah, I think the Packers understand that 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: the time is now to do a deal and it's 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: going to be a big number. 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: The leverage is on the player's side, particularly when if 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: they don't get something done with Jordan Love, now you're 56 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: into the franchise tag game in twenty twenty five, which 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: no team wants to play. Similar situational being a little 58 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: bit different with Tuatungua bai Loa, the Dolphins picked up 59 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: his fifty year option as opposed to doing a bridge 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: deal like Green Bay did we know from the words 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: out to his own mouth, he feels like they've been 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: close a toime through the course of this offseason. He 63 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: is still hopefully we'll have a new deal in place 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: before camp. He wasn't doing a the eleven on eleven 65 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: Mike during the course of the spring. How does this 66 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: play out here over the next several weeks in Miami. 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm shocked. 68 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: We're talking about the fourth of July and fireworks and 69 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: this deal is still not done. And I guess Tua 70 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: is surprised as well. They did have good conversations in 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: the spring. They have had my understanding, good conversations recently 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: as well, But you're kind of in that in between 73 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: zone right now. 74 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: There's really no real great rush and you know, to 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: is on vacation. 76 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: The Dolphins folks are going to have their vacations as well, 77 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: So this feels like something you get together right before 78 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: the start of training camp and that's when you get 79 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: this thing done. It'll be around those numbers that I 80 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: talked about, maybe not all the way to Joe Burrow 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: and Trevor Lawrence, but it's gonna be a great number, 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: particularly for a guy who had the show last year. 83 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: He could stay healthy. 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: And after entertaining potentially retirement talks. So whatever this deal 85 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: comes in at, and I do think it's going to 86 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: come in well before the start of week one, it's 87 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: gonna be a great number for two. 88 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Another top quarterback who is in a similar but different 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: situation from those two, Dak Prescott, also entering a contract here, Mike. 90 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: Why this is different is Dak's doe about thirty four 91 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: million dollars in the last year of his existing extension. 92 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: He's already been extended once. They've already expended two franchise 93 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: tags prior to getting that done so effectively, they can't 94 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: tag him. In twenty twenty five, the number will be 95 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: close to eighty million dollars, all of which, certainly you 96 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: would think is going to set the table for Dallas 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: to try to make a push. It sounds like there 98 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: is at least a pathway to get something done with 99 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, but he's gonna have to weigh that out 100 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: versus the possibility being the rare franchise type quarterback who 101 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: ends up in unfettered free agency next March. 102 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: It sets the table for an entertaining press conference to 103 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: begin training camp with Jerry Jones. He loves to hold 104 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: that press conference at the start of camp. 105 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: He said some off color. Not off color, if. 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: He's said some odd stuff in the past, is that 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: the circumcise of Mosquito line came. And maybe there's the 108 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: one year where he said he loves himself some glory whole. 109 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: I think that came at the start of training camp 110 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 3: press conferences, or maybe I'm just misremembering it. Regardless, this 111 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: is gonna be the topic of conversation to start camp 112 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: because I don't think the deal is getting done before that, 113 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: and Dak Prescott and his agent Todd Frantz have known 114 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: the ability or used the ability to maximize their leverage. 115 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: There's no rush to do it at the start of 116 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: training camp, especially when you have all that money you 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: already banked. Why not go out there, perform, get as 118 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: close to free agency as you possibly can, take it 119 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: into the season, perhaps take it into the offseason, and 120 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: then if you want to go back to Dallas versus testing. 121 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: The open market, then you do it. 122 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Then potentially it's taking all my will power to not 123 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: burst out laughing, because somehow Mike repeating Jerry Jones quotes 124 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: is actually funnier than Jerry Jones saying those quotes himself. 125 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: I'll have another quarterback who's not in a contract situation 126 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: this time around, though certainly Guy's found himself in the 127 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: news over the past couple of months. Aaron Rodgers is 128 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: back on American soil. He's with one of his former teammates, 129 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis, at a UFC event over the weekend before that, 130 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: he was throwing balls in California with another one of 131 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: his former teammates, Mark wez Voldez Scaley. To my knowledge, 132 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: no Jets teammates insight so far, at least per social media. 133 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: As we welcome in our Steve Wich to the conversation. Steve, 134 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: It's been about three weeks since Aaron Rodgers was a 135 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: very unusual absence from the mandatory mini camp. We're now 136 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: three weeks away to the day from the Jets reporting 137 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: to camp. And while I would continue to maintain Aaron 138 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers not being there for a couple of practices in 139 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: June is not going to have an impact on the 140 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: field for the Jets, it still remains to be seen 141 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 1: how all this environment plays out surrounding this Jets team 142 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: in what certainly looks on paper to be like a 143 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: more wide open AFC East than we've had in a 144 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: few years. 145 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 4: Tom, you nailed it when he saw the environment of 146 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 4: the Jets. You know, I don't think I think in 147 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 4: three weeks in a day, we're not going to be 148 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: talking about Aaron Rodgers not being at the manage where 149 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: many can't remember this was a guy who only played 150 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 4: four snaps last season. 151 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: He is going to be motivated, maybe more. 152 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: Than ever, to shove it in everybody's face who has 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: doubted him and the Jets coming into the season. This 154 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: is still a very good player. Now does he have 155 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: the weapons? Maybe we think he has to be very good. 156 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, which is why I know everyone is 157 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: excited about the Jets being the favorites in the AFC East. 158 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: I think we are discounting the Miami Dolphins and all 159 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: this conversation. I know the Buffalo Bills are right there. 160 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: They won the division last year with the same record 161 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: as the Dolphins. But the Jets, yes, they should be 162 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: improved because Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest players. 163 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: But I think overall, on both sides of the ball, 164 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: the Dolphins have the most talent in this division to 165 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 4: come out of it. 166 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: Now, both the Jets and the Dolphins, the. 167 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: Final four or five games on each of their schedules 168 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: is a murderer's row. We know how the Dolphins faded 169 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: last year down the stretch. That's going to determine their fate. 170 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: But you look at those last five game of the Jets. 171 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: If they're not eight and three going into their week 172 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: twelve by, they could be in trouble when you look 173 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: again at that final strike, regardless of how well Aaron 174 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 4: Rodgers is suited up. 175 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: And quick note, Tom, I was actually. 176 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: Dying off camera listening to Mike repeat the jerryisms. 177 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: So well done by you, circumcis and mosquito. That's you 178 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: gotta add the I don't think I added the twang 179 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: the first time around, so. 180 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: Second time not even better. There's a great episode of 181 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: The Simpsons. 182 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: There's a great episode of The Simpsons where Bart thinks 183 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: that Major League Baseball is spying on him. At the 184 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: end of the episode you find out that he was 185 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: actually right, he wasn't crazy. And Mark McGuire shows up 186 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: as the satellite crashes the Earth. It's got Vin Scully's voice. 187 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: It's a great episode. Watch it after we're done here, 188 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: don't don't stop watching this. And Mark McGuire shows up, 189 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: it's like, you want to talk about that, or you 190 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: want to see some dingers, And everybody goes dangers. He 191 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 3: just starts hitting the ball and ooh, and they forget 192 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: about the satellite. That's what's gonna happen with Rodgers. You 193 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: see that's little motion footage you just you just saw 194 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: right there. He's gonna show up at at training camp. 195 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a topic for one day. He's certainly 196 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: gonna express no over more. I am confident in saying that, 197 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: and it's gonna be like, forget mini camp. 198 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: Look at what's happening in trading, look at the majesty 199 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: of some of these throws. 200 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: That's gonna be forgotten and we're gonna be moved on 201 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: to the twenty four season with the Jets. Will Hassan 202 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: Redick be there? I have no idea. I just know 203 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: that he thought a deal was going to get done. 204 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: After these sides, the Jets and the Eagles consummated, a 205 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: trade did not happen. Seems to have been some miscommunication there. 206 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: Regardless of what happens in the past, it's time to 207 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: communicate better and get this thing done. He missed mini camp. 208 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: Will he carry that hold out into training camp? I 209 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: don't know. Sometimes folks will say some stuff right now 210 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: and you'd be like Oh, he's. 211 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: Not gonna and then the dude winds up showing up. 212 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: I do get the sense though, that has Son Reddick 213 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: is very serious about making it clear to the Jets 214 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 3: that he wants his money and he wants all of it. 215 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: See, thank you very much. 216 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: Nobody takes you on a long walk for a short 217 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: fear quite like Mike Garofolo on this day in NFL history, 218 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: going to the war Bear's gone deal with a guy 219 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: who's going to be going to the Hall of Fame 220 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: about a month from now. Devin Hester signed his rookie 221 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: deal back in two thousand and six. How about this, 222 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: as we keep looking at the timeline less than a 223 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: month away Texans Bears in the Hall of Fame game. 224 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Speaking of enshrinements. 225 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: When Astros Falcons teammates went into the Senior Bowl Hall 226 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: of Fame Sunday in Mobile, Alabama, was Roddy White want 227 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: of five four players to get the nod. White played 228 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: in the two thousand and five Senior Bowl Game. Talked 229 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: to rhtt Lewis about his first meeting with his Senior 230 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: Bowl head coach John Gruton. 231 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: The very first meeting, I walk into the room in 232 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 5: John Gruen's he's already in there, he's got everything set out, 233 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 5: you know, and I walk in, I'm sitting down. 234 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 6: He was like, oh, I heard you were a wrestler. 235 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 5: And I was like, I was like, yeah, I mean 236 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: I'm doing it for a pretty long time. 237 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: He was like, I think I could take you. 238 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 5: And I looked at and I was like, whenever you ready. 239 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 5: So that was kind of my introduction before they even 240 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 5: offens of meeting even database I me and he was 241 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 5: going back and forth, you know, having a good time 242 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: for the meet stars. 243 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: John Gruden, I could see being a pretty good wrestler, 244 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: just like low Center of Gravity. He's scrappy, no holds barred. 245 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: I can see it, although I don't I'm not sure 246 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: i'd want to compete with Roddy White in any sort 247 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: of athletic feats. 248 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: Let's bring in are At Lewis. 249 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: Wes some athletic feats in his past as well, most recently. 250 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: 'ret though you were down there for a variety of 251 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: different events, including that Senior Bowl Hall of Fame induction. 252 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: Tell me the best headline, the best story you got 253 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: out of that weekend. 254 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 7: Well, that was one of them, right. 255 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 8: There was certainly here in Roddy White talk about John 256 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 8: Gruden that first interaction. No confirmation though on whether that 257 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 8: wrestling match ever took place, still working on that, but 258 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 8: it was a great Senior Bowl Hall of Fame class. Now, 259 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 8: you guys heard from Demico Ryans yesterday. Eric Weddle was 260 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 8: a part of that class. Was one of my favorite 261 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 8: stories that he told guys. And you might remember this 262 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 8: right from probably came out a little bit when he 263 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 8: came out of retirement to join the La Rams on 264 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 8: that Super Bowl run. But he was telling me that 265 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 8: relationship that he forged with Raheem Morris, who was his 266 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 8: defensive backs coach that year that Eric Weddle was in 267 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 8: the Senior Bowl was really what vaulted, you know, Raheem 268 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 8: Morris calling him. You know, however, many years later it 269 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 8: was to join the Rams, come out of retirement and 270 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 8: go win a Super Bowl. And you know, I think 271 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 8: a lot of times we talk about the competition right 272 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 8: that happens there, the evaluations that happened immobile, you know, Tom, Mike, 273 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 8: you guys have seen it firsthand. But I think one 274 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 8: thing that gets lost is the trust that's built between 275 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 8: coaches and players that interact there together. And that was 276 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 8: a trust and those guys never got a chance to 277 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 8: play and coach together until that final you know, half 278 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 8: a season in few games there. Eric Weddle joined the 279 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 8: Rams and so truly went from Senior Bowl to Super Bowl, 280 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 8: which was, you know, one of my favorite stories. In 281 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 8: the crowd really got a kick out of hearing that, 282 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 8: Marvel the story. 283 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: Watched the twenty twenty five Senior Bowl. Reese the Senior Bowl. 284 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: Here in NFL Network, Tom Pellasero does silent lines for it. 285 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 3: You never know what kind of impact that game is 286 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: going to have on the twenty forty NFL season the 287 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: way that Rhett just laid it out for you. Before that, 288 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: you went to the Manning Passing Academy. I think there's 289 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: a book over your left shoulder that says Manning. You 290 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: know the family, Well, you've attended it multiple times. 291 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: How was this year's MPa, Man, it was awesome. 292 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 8: You know, it's ninety five degree heat, one hundred percent 293 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 8: humidity down in Thibodaux, Louisiana, But you know, I'm from 294 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 8: about forty five minutes away from there, and it's always 295 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 8: one of the highlights of my summer. Guys, It's an 296 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 8: opportunity to kind of scratch that itch of getting to 297 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 8: be around ball again in a way in which you 298 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 8: can kind of coach and teach and be around guys 299 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 8: who and kids who love the game. Eighth graders through 300 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 8: twelfth graders that are going into those grades get to 301 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 8: come down, and they have almost fifteen hundred campers that 302 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 8: come down for that event. And so I love that 303 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 8: piece of it. But the other piece of it that's 304 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 8: really valuable for me is I get a chance to 305 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 8: spend some time around forty five or so of the 306 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 8: best college quarterbacks in the country. And this probably he 307 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 8: won't come as much of a surprise to you guys, 308 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 8: but it turns out the Texas Longhorns aren't a pretty 309 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 8: good spot when it comes to the quarterback position. 310 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 7: And quinn Ewers, who will be their starter. 311 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 8: This year, was last year let him to a college 312 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 8: football playoff appearance, is just so impressive when he throws 313 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 8: the football. You guys are talking about Aaron Rodgers earlier, 314 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 8: and I am telling you there is some effortlessness with 315 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 8: the way that quinn Ewers throws the ball and the 316 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 8: way it explodes out of his hand on the deep ball, 317 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 8: the way he can accurately place it wherever he wants. 318 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 8: That does remind you a little bit of Aaron Rodgers. 319 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 8: And oh, by the way, his backup just happens to 320 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 8: bear the name of the camp that we are talking 321 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 8: about here. Arch Manning super impressive, big physical kid. He's 322 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 8: going to be great when it's his time to go. 323 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 8: And I'm just, you know, I feel like I'm really 324 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 8: impressed continually. But the way that he handles himself right, 325 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 8: the way that his family has helped, you know, him 326 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 8: kind of understand the situation that he's in. And so 327 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 8: it was really cool to see all that. And you know, 328 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 8: it's just a really neat event to get the chance 329 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 8: to be around so many somebody the guys who love football. 330 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: Wild guess we'll be talking a lot about Quinn viewers. 331 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: Come oh, let's say next February, March April, and arch 332 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: Manning probably not that far behind Rett. Thank you very much. 333 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: More selfie videos please keep them coming our way. Coming 334 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: up after this, you're gonna hear about Malik Neighbors, who 335 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: made that catch during his first off season with the 336 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: New York Giants. Is that enough to vault the Giants 337 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: back into playoff contention. Our guy Volty joins us to 338 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: discuss that and a lot more around the NFC East 339 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: Right after this on The Insiders. 340 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: Oh, Hard Knocks is taking you behind the scenes of 341 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: the off season. 342 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: For the first time ever with the New. 343 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: York Giants, from Blockbuster Trades to Draft Day. Hard Knocks 344 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: Off Season with the New York Giants premieres tonight at 345 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: nine pm on Max. Here is a sneak peek at 346 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: episode one. 347 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: You guys want to move up to six thirty three? No, 348 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: just checking? Never heard sass me? And you want to 349 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: come up to six? Where are you? You can't afford it. 350 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 9: You can't afford a top ten pig. 351 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Come on? You want to give us pold ones for 352 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: the friends? 353 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 7: Ooh, that sounded an awful lot like the Panthers. Just 354 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 7: let the Giants know that pass rusher extraordinary Brian Burns 355 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 7: is available. 356 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: There's Buns being an absolute factor. 357 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 6: Just wins off the ball. 358 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: It's look at that little dip that's so beautiful. To 359 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: change your levels. 360 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: It make yourself from a big, tall target to a tiny, little, 361 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: small target. 362 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 7: You want to give us pold ones for the friends? 363 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: No, I mean yes, but. 364 00:16:54,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 9: Something heading in the right direction, heading in the right direction. 365 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: That direction wound up being Day two of the draft 366 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: was a second and fifth round pick that went in 367 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: exchange for Brian Burns. So that's the kind of behind 368 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: the scenes access that you. 369 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: Are going to see at times. 370 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: My understanding is the Giants forgot about the cameras that 371 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: they were there, so maybe we caught some even juicier stuff. Anyway, 372 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: you'll see what went into all this stuff right here. 373 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 3: This is the Giants notable transactions of the twenty four offseason. 374 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: You will see that in Hard Knocks on HBO and Max. 375 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: Brian Moldier now joining us to talk some Giants. 376 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: You see what they did there. 377 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 3: You know what they already had coming from last season, 378 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: which was a disappointment. But this team feels like they 379 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: can bounce back and recapture what they had two years ago. 380 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: In Brian Dables' first year as the coach. 381 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: Do they have enough firepower on this roster to compete 382 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: with the rest of the NFC East Baldy, Well. 383 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 7: If they do something that they do last year that 384 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 7: stay healthy. 385 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 10: I mean, you know, their offensive line fell apart Week 386 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 10: one last year and it never really got healthy, and 387 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 10: the quarterbacks all over colored quarterbacks suffered. If they can 388 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 10: put the line together, and they've addressed it this offseason 389 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 10: and keep Daniel Jones healthy. You look, you go out 390 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 10: there to OTA's in mini camps and you're looking at 391 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 10: elite neighbors and Jalen Hyatt and Wandale Robinson, Darius Slayton. 392 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 7: You think they have enough. They have enough to be competitive. 393 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 10: And then we're showing the defense here, Mike, and defensively 394 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 10: they have a chance to be pretty good. And so 395 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 10: they had thirty one takeaways, which tied for the league 396 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 10: lead last year. If they could take the ball away 397 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 10: with Kavon and Burnsey and Oka Ak and Dexter Lawrence 398 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 10: and some of the guys up front and give a 399 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 10: little healthy offense, they could be a lot more competitive 400 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 10: in that division than they were. 401 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: Between the injuries and the offensive line, and Darren Waller 402 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: was injured as well. Was just not that explosive presence 403 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: that they thought he was going to be. Just never 404 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: got right offensively. Defensively, Look, Wake Martin was a really 405 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: good defensive coordinator. It just was not a fit anymore, 406 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: and it just wasn't working for either side. 407 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: So he moves on. 408 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: So you think with a new defensive coordinator, you can 409 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: reset on that side of the ball as well. So, yeah, 410 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 3: interested to see where the Giants wind up. 411 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: Let's play a. 412 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 3: Little bit more or a little bit of a game 413 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: called more likely scenario here. I'll give you a couple 414 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: of scenarios here, and you tell me what's more likely. 415 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: The first one, Elite Neighbors will elevate the Giants offense 416 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: or is this Daniel Jones last season in New York. 417 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 7: I think Elite Neighbors is going to make an impact. Mike. 418 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 10: You just watch him just one day out there in 419 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 10: miniicamp and you see just a different ways that they 420 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 10: get him the ball and just his movement and you're 421 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 10: seeing right here that we saw throughout the SEC the 422 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 10: last couple of years like that showed up in camp. 423 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 10: I think he has a chance to help elevate this 424 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 10: offense in a way that we have never seen a 425 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 10: receiver since Odell Beckham elevating offense in New York. 426 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: Both could be yeah, both could be true. 427 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: Neither could be true on any of these I'm asking you, 428 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, I see what you're saying there. I've picking 429 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 3: up what you're putting down, and I know that the Giants, 430 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: and certainly their approach to the draft where they didn't 431 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: take a quarterback just to take a quarterback, shows that 432 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: they still have confidence in Daniel Jones, both from a 433 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: talent standpoint and a health standpoint as he comes back 434 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: from his ACL. 435 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: They expect them to be ready week one. Here's another 436 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: one for you. 437 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: We're going to go around the NFC East with these 438 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: more likely Jayden Daniels wins Offensive Rookie of the Year 439 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: and the NFC East or will he have a welcome 440 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 3: to the NFL type season. 441 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 10: Oh, I think it's gonna be more on the positive side. 442 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 10: I don't know that they're going to win the NFC East. 443 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 10: I think that's a big jump from being four to 444 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 10: thirteen a year ago, losing their last eight games in 445 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 10: a row last year. Defensively, they were a mess. They 446 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 10: got a lot to fix. But I think Jade Daniels 447 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 10: is the right guy. And I think that just watching 448 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 10: him this spring and listening to what people are saying 449 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 10: about him, I mean there's nobody that isn't impressed by 450 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 10: the work ethic, the arm the talent. I think he's 451 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 10: going to have a chance to be You have some 452 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 10: good days out there this year. I don't know that 453 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 10: it's enough to take down the Eagles or the Cowboys 454 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 10: at this point right now, Yeah. 455 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, great spring. 456 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: Looking forward to seeing what he and Cliff Kingsbury can 457 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: do together to Philly. WeGo the Eagles return to the 458 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: super Bowl or another first round playoff exit, which one's 459 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: more likely. 460 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 10: You know, Mike, I happened to be in the Philadelphia 461 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 10: airport today. I saw Nick Sirianni. He was on his 462 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 10: way to Turks and k cooast flying and coach by 463 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 10: the way, Flying Coach say, well, somebody's got to take Mike, 464 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 10: he said, somebody's got to take care of the kids. 465 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 7: Right, Okay, you can relate anyways. 466 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 10: I have. 467 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 7: This roster has been rebuilt. 468 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 10: I know the state last year one and six, horrible 469 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 10: playoff loss down the stretch. 470 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 7: I mean, you're looking at. 471 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 10: Devin White right there, and this is a much better 472 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 10: roster than I think finished the season a year ago. 473 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 10: I feel like the Eagles will be in a much 474 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 10: better position to compete, not just in the NFC East, 475 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 10: but in the playoffs. 476 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 7: Play in January and have a chance to get back 477 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 7: to Super Bowl. 478 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: Nick Sirianni back of the owners meetings of the annual 479 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: spring meeting back in March. We were down there in Florida, 480 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: had the kids clonbing all over room. So he yeah, 481 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: he does his part, he pulls, and there there's sometimes 482 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: with him at the press conferences making faces while he's 483 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 3: trying to answer questions. 484 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: So he clocks in. 485 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 3: As far as the father goes, good for you, Nick 486 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: Sirianni Flying coach Love. It more likely scenario for the 487 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys finally make it back to the NFC Championship 488 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: game or they're searching for a new head coach this offseason. 489 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 10: Man, Mike, this has been a long drought. Nineteen ninety 490 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 10: fives last time they've been to a championship game ended 491 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 10: up winning Super Bowl that year with Troy eight. Mean, 492 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 10: I don't see it. I mean I think this trout 493 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 10: continues right now. I think they've won through twelve games 494 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 10: in a row, three years in a row. We've seen 495 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 10: them just a bob out of the playoffs, one bad 496 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 10: loss after another. I don't know that they've done anything 497 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 10: this offseason to get them over the hunt and to 498 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 10: compete with some of the other teams at MFC. Right now, 499 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 10: they've looked for a lot of different coaches Mike to 500 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 10: try to get it right. And you know, maybe Mike 501 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 10: has a couple of magic rabberts. He's gonna pull out 502 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 10: of that cowboy hat right there to get him there. 503 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 10: I don't see it right now on July second, the 504 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 10: Cowboys getting to a championship game. 505 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 2: More likely scenario. 506 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: You're back with us later in the show, or you're 507 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: hitting the vacation trail right now. 508 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: I know this one. You're back with us later in 509 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: the show. 510 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, just briefly, Mike, Just briefly, because I am hitting 511 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 10: the vacation trail. 512 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 7: I'm on the way. 513 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 514 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: We played that scuba footage on the way to break. 515 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: There's more of that to come, but there's also more 516 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: football talk with Baldy before that happens. We appreciate you 517 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: put that guy is going to join us next. That 518 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: is Josh Jacobs, the Packers running back. 519 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: He is going to talk football. 520 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: He's gonna talk Jordan Love, he's gonna talk fire safety. 521 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: Yes, there he is with the hat right there, waiting by. 522 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: You got to hear what he's doing to make sure 523 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: everybody's safe on this for in You're life coming up. 524 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 11: Next, first to go on the Packers two end zone, 525 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 11: do our waf snack hand off, Jacobs dances forward, touchdown Raiders. 526 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 11: Jacob's head of tans in the pocket, handed up, banging again. 527 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: To the exone had the Raiders take us sixteenth thirteen leagues. 528 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: The Packers are sure hoping they're going to see some 529 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: similar highlights to that, just you know, the other way 530 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: around now that this guy is wearing their uniform. 531 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Insiders. 532 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Tom Pilisero, Mike Garrifalo, joined right now by Josh Jacobs, 533 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: the newest Packers running back. Josh, you got nineteen days 534 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: right now to report the training, Pampa. 535 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: How are you living, how you're training? How's everything going? 536 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 7: Man? 537 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 6: It's been a grin. 538 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: Man. 539 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 6: I'm very excited to, you know, start the season and 540 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 6: get it going. 541 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: So right now you're at the Milwaukee Fire Department. 542 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: You're teaming up with them in USAA and I quote 543 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: the press release a controlled explosion of a charcoal grill 544 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: to spread awareness and educate the public on how to 545 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: stay safe and avoid home fires ahead of the holiday weekend. 546 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm not making light of it. 547 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: I know this is a very serious subject, but an 548 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: exploding charcoal grill feels like a really good way to 549 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: deliver this message. 550 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: How'd you get involved? 551 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? Man, So they taught me how to basically put 552 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 6: out a fire. 553 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 12: You know, they put the fire on a grill, had 554 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 12: it splowed up, and basically I had to take the 555 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 12: fire steamerser and learn the technique of how to put 556 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 12: it out, and you know, and it was fun. 557 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 6: Man, it was a fun experience. I can't complain. 558 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 2: Love that, right. 559 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: There's no end to the number of things we could 560 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 3: say to the public when it comes to the fourth 561 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 3: of July with regard to being safe. So there you go, 562 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs, giving you another one there. As for things 563 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 3: on the football field, we expect it to be hot, 564 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 3: just like that grill. I'm trying to make some kind 565 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: of transition here as we get to the pack and 566 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: we get to this offense. Matt Lafleur, talking recently to 567 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: the media, say philosophically he likes to have a couple 568 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: of running backs because it's such a violent position for 569 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: you guys to have to play for the course of 570 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 3: the season. So he sees multiple guys being used in 571 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 3: the backfield, but also said that he sees you as 572 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: kind of a high volume type guy, a versatile guy. 573 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: What's your impression with regard to how things are going 574 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: to work for you in this offense in twenty twenty. 575 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 6: Four, Man, I honestly think the sky's limit in this offense. 576 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 10: Man. 577 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 12: You know, obviously with having a special guy and Jordan Love, 578 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 12: you know, and having a good office, a line and 579 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 12: you know, some good receivers out there make it a 580 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 12: lot easier for me. But just to be able to 581 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 12: see the game plan and things that they want me 582 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 12: to do this year, the things that they're allowing me 583 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 12: to do, I just think it's going to be a 584 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 12: special year. 585 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: There's a little more insight into that, Josh, because you know, 586 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: you go back to twenty twenty two, you put him 587 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: over two thousand yards for scrimmage, twelve touchdowns. 588 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: Remember talking to you with the. 589 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl right after after that, you get your opportunity 590 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: to hit the fridge market. The Packers paid for that 591 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: guy what they saw on tape going back to twenty 592 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: twenty two. Obviously you had to battle through some injuries 593 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: last year. When you talk about that, the things that 594 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: they're going to allow you to do in this offense, 595 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: what all does that entail. 596 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 12: Man, you know, just to be able to come out 597 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 12: and actually so that you know, I can catch the 598 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 12: ball more. They had to run real routes, you know, 599 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 12: not just that, but trusted me enough to be able 600 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 12: to pick up protections. And you know, it's just so 601 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 12: special when you got a guy like Jordan Love back there, man, 602 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 12: and you can't really just load the box every play 603 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 12: and you make defenses beside you know what they want 604 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 12: to stop. 605 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 6: I think that's gonna be the biggest help for me 606 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 6: this year. 607 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's the second time you've mentioned Jordan Love 608 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 3: and a guy like that back there. Give us your 609 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: impressions of Jordan Love from what you saw from him 610 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: in the spring. You've been around your Sheriff quarterbacks at 611 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: this point, seems like you're really impressed with what you've 612 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: seen from Jordan Love. 613 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, man, I mean to me, I mean, just from 614 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 12: what I see, he has all the rates and all the. 615 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 6: Tools to be a superstar in this league. 616 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 12: I think that, you know, as he keeps continue to 617 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 12: play and get experience and you know, grow confidence and 618 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 12: more and be become more confident in his abilities and 619 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 12: what he can do, he's gonna be the next superstar 620 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 12: in this league. 621 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: So, so you go from Las Vegas to Green Bay. 622 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: I lived in Green Bay for three years. It's a 623 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: fun town. It's a really, you know, good place to be, 624 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: great place to raise a family. A little bit different 625 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: than where you've been in the past. If you've gotten 626 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: out in the community, gone and eating cheese, courage, you 627 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: got into a housepar any of those uniquely Green Bay things. 628 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I definitely tried a lot of the teese trot, 629 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 12: a lot of the tees. 630 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 6: But man, yeah, it's a it's a it's a different community. 631 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 7: Man. 632 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 6: I mean to me, like, I've never been around like 633 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 6: people that's just so nice. 634 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 12: Like everybody is just so nice. It's kind of weird, honestly. 635 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 12: But man, it's just it's so quiet. It's peaceful. It's 636 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 12: something that like every time I think about I just 637 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 12: think football. I think about locking in. I think about, uh, 638 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 12: you know, perfecting my craft and hopefully you know, everything 639 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 12: that I do this year and the being doing in 640 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 12: this offseason, the payoff. 641 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: Well, listen, we know what it's gonna be like in 642 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: Green Bay in December and January. 643 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: But I've been up there for training camp. It's beautiful. 644 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: This time of year, man, drink it in right now, 645 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: because this is the best time of the year up there. 646 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: There's plenty of things for you to do up there. 647 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: I remember a couple of weeks ago, maybe it was 648 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: a couple of months ago, after you joined the Packers, 649 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: you alluded to the fact that you sent an eyeball 650 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: emoji to Davante Adams about the possibility of coming back. 651 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: To Green Bay and rejoining you. Did you ever get 652 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: a full response from him on that and what was 653 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: you know, what's his takes? 654 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 12: So me and Davonte mail, you got to understand the 655 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 12: type of relationship we have. 656 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 6: We you know, we talk around with each other a lot. 657 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 6: We uh, you know, we talk about certain things, and 658 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 6: we were just basically my sending nodballs. It was more 659 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 6: so out It's just kind of like crazy how life work. 660 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: Like he leave there and go to the Raiders, and 661 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 6: I'm going there. So that's kind of just what we 662 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 6: were talking about. 663 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: So you spent you know, the early stages five years 664 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: of your career in Vegas slash Oakland. 665 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: There are a. 666 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: Lot of things that happened in that five year span 667 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: with the Raiders and different regimes and different offenses and changes, 668 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: and you went through it again last year as you 669 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: look from Afar and obviously the deal didn't get done 670 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: for you. But what do you see right now with 671 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders moving forward in the direction that they're trying 672 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: to go. 673 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 12: Man, believe it or not, Man, I still root for him. 674 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 12: I mean, obviously not when they're playing against us, but 675 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 12: I still root for him. Man, I want them to 676 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 12: have success. I got a lot of people over there 677 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 12: that you know, obviously says is my brothers, you know, 678 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 12: and my family. So I still root for their success. 679 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 12: I hope you know, Ap figure it out. I hope 680 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 12: you know, Max leath Away on all of that, and 681 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 12: hopefully healthfully they do good, just not against us. 682 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't look like they're playing you this year. 683 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: I just double check their schedule. So there you go. 684 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: You can root for them every single week. 685 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 6: Got no, I'm about to say, yeah, but you never know. 686 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 7: We might. We might. 687 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 6: You know, you never know how I playoffs, So you know. 688 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: It's just liss. We'll cross that bridge when we get there. 689 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: You talked about this guy being the limit for you 690 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: for this offense. Do you have goals when you come 691 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: into the season like it's now the time of year 692 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: for you to be writing yourself some specific goals or 693 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: do you have more of a general concept for what 694 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: do you want. 695 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: From a season? 696 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 6: So honestly, normally I never set goals. 697 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 12: I tend to like be the person that, like I 698 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 12: say everything from a day to day basis, and I'll 699 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 12: work from a day to day basis and the results 700 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 12: of that will be what you see, you know. 701 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 6: What I'm saying, That'll be the goal or whatever. 702 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 12: But this year, man, I can honestly say, as I'm 703 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 12: getting older and I'm playing longer, man, that I have 704 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 12: a real goal of you know, legacy, you know what 705 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 12: I'm I think that that's a big thing, like, you know, 706 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 12: wanting to play important games, playing the playoffs, you know, 707 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 12: make a make a deep run, and you know, playing 708 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 12: that game if we get there, you know. 709 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 6: So that's big for me. I think that's the. 710 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 12: Most important thing. And obviously too, coming in where I'm 711 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 12: twenty six and I'm one of the oldest guys on 712 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 12: the team, I think that I don't take that really lightly, 713 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 12: you know, coming in and you seeing these guys, especially 714 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 12: these young receivers, you know, on the cusp of you know, 715 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 12: being a player in this league and being a face 716 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 12: and being in a household staple and being able to 717 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 12: help guid them and you know, teach them little things 718 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 12: about what I do or what I see to help them, 719 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 12: you know, elevate that game to the next level. 720 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 6: I think that's a part of the reason why they 721 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 6: brought me in. 722 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: There's also a lot of fantasy football fans out there, Josh, 723 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: who are watching this and they're wondering, Okay, they drafted 724 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd, AJ Dillon's back. 725 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: Should I be comfortable. 726 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: Taking Josh Jacobs with a high pick? Can you provide 727 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: us assurances you're gonna put up those numbers like they 728 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: have in the past now that you're in Green bed Man. 729 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 12: Look, I haven't been this much exciting for a season 730 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 12: in a long time. 731 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 6: I feel like the you know, this, this the first 732 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 6: time I had an off season where I. 733 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 12: Really just didn't have uh, you know, I'm doing recovery 734 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 12: for you know something that I heard throughout the season. 735 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 12: I think this is the longest time I've been being 736 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 12: able to just sit down and you know, perfect my craft. 737 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 6: So it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun 738 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 6: year for me. 739 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: We'll be seeing your Week one in Brazil against the Eagles. 740 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: Heck of a place to make your Packers debut, Josh, 741 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: best of luck, Man, Thanks slot for the. 742 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 6: Time, Man, thank you for having me. 743 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: It's coming up fast. 744 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: The twenty twenty four NFL season is just sixty five 745 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: days away. 746 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: In single game tickets are on sale now. 747 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: Visit NFL dot com slash tickets to purchase tickets today. 748 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Tickets are available through ticket Master, Seat Geek, and Sports 749 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: Illustrated Tickets. Members of the NFL Ticket Network can Mike 750 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: Evans and the punch their ticket to the playoffs again. 751 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: We'll dig deep on the NFC South with Sarah Wols 752 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: Next on the Insiders. 753 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 4: From his old twenty five takes the snap look, Staffield 754 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 4: throws a dark cock ball. 755 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 2: Put the fifty, put the forty five to the forty. 756 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: It's Mike Kevin's till the thirty cow uch twenty put 757 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: the fifteen to those at five. Take you did to 758 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: get ind Mike Evans makes a remarkable run after the catch. 759 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's gonna they need a review that 760 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: it's a touchdown. You want to talk about one of 761 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: the elite receivers in football. There you go, seventy five 762 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: yard catch for a touchdown. 763 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 7: Mike Haveviagy. 764 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of Mike Evans on NFL Network 765 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,479 Speaker 1: today because Mike Evans is programming NFL Network today, part 766 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: of the Player's Choice, which rolls on right after this show, 767 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: some of his best games, including that Super Bowl a 768 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: wild one back after the twenty twenty season against the Chiefs. 769 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Insiders, Tom Pellicero, joined now by 770 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: our friend Sarah Walls. All right, Sarah, the offseason, at 771 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: least the spring is complete. We're a few weeks out 772 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: from training camps. Here, give me a few thoughts, a 773 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: few takeaways you had from the NFC South. 774 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 2: Maybe starting us ouf in Carolina. 775 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 13: All right, let's start. 776 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 14: There in Carolina, Tom, And the most obvious thing there 777 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 14: is that the Panthers were willing to back up the 778 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 14: brains truck to put Bryce Young in a position to 779 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 14: be successful, and for that quarterback, that position might just 780 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 14: be being upright. After being sacked sixty two times a 781 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 14: season ago, second most ever for a rookie, only behind 782 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 14: David Carr, they went out and spent more than one 783 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 14: hundred and fifty million dollars on two guards in Damian 784 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 14: Lewis and Robert Hunton. This is a Carolina team that 785 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 14: had seven picks in the draft. They weren't using any 786 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 14: of them on an offensive lineman. And what that tells 787 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 14: me is this isn't about building for the future. This is, Hey, 788 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 14: we want to build a fortress in front of Young, 789 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 14: and we want to do it right now with veteran guys, 790 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 14: guys that are among the best in the league. So 791 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 14: that's what they went out and did. And of course 792 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 14: Dave can known for building up quarterbacks. He just did 793 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 14: it here in Tampa with Baker Mayfield and his resurgence. 794 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 13: He did it out in Seattle with Geno Smith. 795 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 14: The belief is that all of this is putting the 796 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 14: pieces around Bryce Young. It was obviously a very rough 797 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 14: rookie season for him. Now does all of this take 798 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 14: a Panthers team that went two and fifteen a year 799 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 14: ago and catapult them into the playoffs. 800 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 13: That would be a pretty tough leap. 801 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 14: But you have to believe that they took gigantic strides 802 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 14: physically that you will see this offseason to make the 803 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 14: Panthers and Bryce Young in a much better position next season. 804 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: Falcons also have a new head coach for him, Morris 805 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: back in Atlanta. What's your biggest takeaway from their off season. 806 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 14: Here's what I find really interesting about the Falcons, and 807 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 14: you guys were just talking about the Cowboys on this 808 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 14: Insider show. When you think about the teams that are 809 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 14: under pressure to win right now, to make the big jump, 810 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 14: it's always the Cowboys, right It's the Jets right now 811 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 14: with Aaron Rodgers. It's been the Bills a lot lately. 812 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 14: With the thought that they're in that window. Well, Raheem 813 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 14: Morris might be a first year head coach Atlanta, it 814 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 14: certainly does not feel that way. He had that interim 815 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 14: title back in twenty twenty in Atlanta. He's got experience. 816 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 14: He's very well known around those parts there in Flowery Branch. 817 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 14: But as soon as they went out and signed Kirk Cousins, 818 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 14: this is not about the future. You put pen to 819 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 14: paper and a one hundred and eighty million dollar contract. 820 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 14: That is for this Falcons team to win right now, 821 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 14: to be in the postseason right now. They have been 822 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 14: in a drought there in Atlanta six years without going 823 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 14: to the playoffs. And it's often thought that, well, if 824 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 14: it was just this one key piece. If it was 825 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 14: one more win, they would have slipped into the NFC 826 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 14: South a division crown and taken that. And the only 827 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 14: thing holding them back was a quarterback. So again, this 828 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 14: was not about the future. This is a Falcons team 829 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,959 Speaker 14: that I think sneakily the NFC South doesn't get talked 830 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 14: about a lot. Right now, I would say, but I 831 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 14: think the Falcons are in that group of teams that 832 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 14: are really under pressure to win and win immediately this year. 833 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: The past couple of years, the Bucks supprit of the 834 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: team we've talked about the least in that division. All 835 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: they do is go out and keep winning division titles. 836 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: That's your takeaway off their offseason. 837 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 14: Well, I'm glad you bring that up, because as soon 838 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 14: as Kirk Cousins was signed to the Atlanta Falcons, the 839 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 14: narrative is the Falcons are going to win the division. 840 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 14: Let's go back a year ago and they get a 841 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 14: Derek Carr New Orleans and right away it was the 842 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 14: Saints are going to win the division and who has 843 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 14: quietly won the division if that's possible. But I can 844 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 14: tell you it is possible to quietly win it because 845 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 14: the Bucks have been doing it year after year after year, 846 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 14: three straight division crowns. The feeling in Tampa is that 847 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 14: they get no respect. As soon as Tom left, it 848 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 14: was all over, and then it was another team that 849 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 14: was going to sneak in there, and no one has 850 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 14: been able to do this. And certainly this is opinion 851 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 14: if you feel like they don't get respect, and the 852 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 14: Bucks will say they don't care what anybody thinks outside 853 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 14: the locker room. 854 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 13: We're happy being the underdogs. 855 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 14: We're happy having the chip on our shoulders. But it's 856 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 14: funny to think about this team having a chip on 857 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 14: their shoulder. 858 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 13: They're the only let me give you some cold hard 859 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 13: Bucks facts here. This is not opinion. 860 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 14: They are the only team in the NFC that has 861 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 14: now gone to the playoffs four consecutive years in a row. 862 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 14: Right now, and since twenty twenty, they have the third 863 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 14: most wins in the NFL. 864 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 13: They're not really thought of that way, And if. 865 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 14: You go back in very recent history, a year ago, 866 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 14: they're about four and a half minutes away from potentially 867 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 14: going to a conference championship game, four and a half 868 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 14: minutes left on the clock, and they were within a 869 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 14: score of the Detroit Lions up there in Detroit, and 870 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 14: they feel like those same. 871 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 13: Pieces are there. 872 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 14: Jason Light doesn't go out and sign flashy players. What 873 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 14: he does do is go out and sign his own players. 874 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 14: And those players have been very good for the last 875 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 14: couple of years, so don't be surprised if that could 876 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 14: continue again. 877 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 13: But they're happy to not have the pressure on them. 878 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 14: You can talk about anybody else and they'll just quietly 879 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 14: go to work, and we. 880 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 2: Have and we probably will. 881 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Sarah Lak forward to talking to 882 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: you again very soon.