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Speaker 1: welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered. Actually heating up a section of

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Speaker 1: the grass that they were trying to grow. You can

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Speaker 1: but Jesus out of him. Yeah, growing grass out there

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Speaker 1: Boy took a dump on the field and they couldn't

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Speaker 1: on the field yesterday. He's just ruth. You're asking this

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Speaker 1: gout to be a quarterbacks coaching his quarterbacks stunk. It's

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Speaker 1: the same thing. The guy's point is that batlet screw you.

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Speaker 1: Does he command the room? Does he, you know, get respected?

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Speaker 1: His neck is too long before we talking one him.

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen and a big Adam's apple. You can't have that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to write out Ramondre every time,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I just say Dre. It's faster maybe

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Speaker 1: If I'm going to do Paul another poll, I'll be

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Speaker 1: four Belichick saying this year, I could see that toe

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Speaker 1: moving if he's did that all right, this is Patriots Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan. All Right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It's

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Speaker 1: Thursday here at Jillette Stadium and getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins a Sunday at one tilt here at Gillette Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the second to last regular season game. We're getting down there.

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Speaker 1: It's a must win for the Patriots if they want

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Speaker 1: to have any hope of getting into the playoffs. So, um,

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Speaker 1: current status? Have we heard any? Well? First let's introduce

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Speaker 1: the contestants. Hello, we have Deuce. We have Alex gracing

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Speaker 1: us with her presence. She heard the video was on today,

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Speaker 1: so it's like I'll come down today. Paul's here and

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Speaker 1: big show. It's a big show. And following our show

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Speaker 1: live on it video will be catch twenty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in a Thursday at two time slot. Yeah. And I

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Speaker 1: call the show at eight five five pass five hundred um. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to a huge show. Now, Paul's gonna have

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Speaker 1: to leave early because he's move shows. Yeah, he's going

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Speaker 1: to with his other show. Uh, he's filling in and

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Speaker 1: the Felger and Maz Show from two to six. Not

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Speaker 1: for all four hours. He's gonna have to talk some bruins.

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Speaker 1: twenty two. Oh that's so if no one's listening, Paul,

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Speaker 1: show the the listeners there right, I made my picks.

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Speaker 1: My picks are in. I thought you said you hadn't

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Speaker 1: It was like when when you open it up, you

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Speaker 1: get off the field like you're actually that means you're

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Speaker 1: actually executing on offense. Yeah, you know. I feel like,

425
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Speaker 1: you know, the defense we talked about a little bit yesterday.

426
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Speaker 1: I think like there's a lot of you know, interesting

427
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Speaker 1: analysis of the defense, and I feel like there's a

428
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Speaker 1: little bit of a disconnect because I think, and we

429
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Speaker 1: kind of think touched on a little bit yesterday of

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Speaker 1: I think they're pretty good defense, but not in some

431
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Speaker 1: aspects and like and then I see like they got

432
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Speaker 1: a lot of sacks and third down that's like, you know,

433
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Speaker 1: like you look at some of the rankings and you're like, well,

434
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Speaker 1: this isn't matching up. I think that they're a good defense.

435
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're a top three defense, you know,

436
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Speaker 1: but a lot. I think the pressure, their pressure has

437
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Speaker 1: been good. But I think that's the third down that

438
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Speaker 1: you know that I think they're like twenty first, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, and it's it's just interesting because they have

440
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Speaker 1: a pretty good pass rush. They have a pretty good front.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, Evan can probably correct me.

442
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Speaker 1: But I think on third down, you know, when it's

443
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Speaker 1: that obvious long passing situation, I think they're afraid to

444
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Speaker 1: just sell out, and I think they they more often

445
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Speaker 1: drop back and hope that they can cut over and

446
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Speaker 1: they can't. Yeah. Well, I mean they certainly sold out,

447
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 1: you know a couple of times last last game. But

448
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Speaker 1: I mean they picked their spots for it. Um. I

449
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Speaker 1: just I mean, I mean, Badar wrote something today and

450
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Speaker 1: he's kind of banging the number one corner, which you

451
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Speaker 1: know I agree with. I mean, I just I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, oh, to get it. So he was listening

453
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Speaker 1: to the Deuce and Paul Draft podcasts, right, get them

454
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Speaker 1: get a number one. We're going back ten months now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that they've held up as pretty

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Speaker 1: well considering the injuries that they've had. Um but you know,

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Speaker 1: I think ultimately over the course of the season, it

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Speaker 1: just hasn't They haven't had good enough coverage on the

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Speaker 1: back end. And I would, you know, just say, looking

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Speaker 1: forward to next year, you're you're going to get a

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Speaker 1: lot of this pass rush guys back. I mean Ja's back,

462
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Speaker 1: Judan to be back, Farmore's back. Why is this back?

463
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Speaker 1: You know? So you have those guys picking up the

464
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Speaker 1: pace in the secondary, getting you know, getting a number

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Speaker 1: one kind of guy, and then they can kind of

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Speaker 1: slide things down a little bit. What's more important left

467
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Speaker 1: tackle or number one corner? Yeah, I think they were

468
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Speaker 1: equal importance that between those two and and and a

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Speaker 1: really good wife receiver receiver, I think those are you know,

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Speaker 1: I throw off the ball linebacker in there too, just

471
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Speaker 1: you know, an instinctual fast guy who who makes plays.

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Speaker 1: And I know people are on the Jawan Bentley kind

473
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Speaker 1: of high trains lately. He has played well. I just

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Speaker 1: I think that he's fine in conventional games early on

475
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Speaker 1: and was getting is what you need. You need that

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Speaker 1: guy who sees the plays before they happen, and and

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Speaker 1: and especially are able to read through all the mesh

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Speaker 1: points stuff like that. The Ravens, and I mean, I

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Speaker 1: just think you pop on as everyone. You pop on

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Speaker 1: the tape the Ravens game. I mean I pop on

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Speaker 1: the tape of the Ravens. Uh. You know that's when

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Speaker 1: you see like they just they can't compete with these

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Speaker 1: kind of teams. And it even is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of crossover. I would say to Mahomes and you know,

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Speaker 1: not that those are the same, but you know just

486
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Speaker 1: how much hum invest in your defense to plan for

487
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Speaker 1: rushing quarterbacks when you might only see a couple of years,

488
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Speaker 1: but you might see the Ravens in the playoffs, and

489
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Speaker 1: then you're really going to hope that you know you

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Speaker 1: have the ability to kind of morph and deal with

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Speaker 1: those guys, because I just don't think they can. They.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they seem schematically shorthand to me. Though. The

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Speaker 1: only downside about having a defense that is geared to

494
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Speaker 1: stopping a mobile quarterback is that maybe they're too small

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Speaker 1: when you come up against a team that wants to

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Speaker 1: just bash your head in. But how many teams do that?

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Speaker 1: Since I have no problem with that, right, bash my

498
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: head in all day? When you have your seventeen points

499
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Speaker 1: at the end of So speed is good no matter what,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like, okay, so that they don't have a

501
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, I can still use speed to stop them. Yeah,

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00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 1: you know it's so it's like I'd rather do it

503
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Speaker 1: that way than have this team that's you know, built

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Speaker 1: to stop the run, because there's only a few teams

505
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Speaker 1: that really rely on that. You know, did you read

506
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: the Badard break because I thought, I mean, I thought

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Speaker 1: that was more in line with how I felt like

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Speaker 1: the game win on Saturday, which is rare because, honest

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Speaker 1: to God, and you guys know, I tease Greg all

510
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Speaker 1: the time, I almost never see the game the same

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Speaker 1: way he does. But I just thought it was interesting

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Speaker 1: the way he pointed out, you know, the amount of

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00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: things that that Cincinnati did to itself, Yeah, as opposed

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Speaker 1: to And I think he had the numbers to back

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Speaker 1: it up, because sometimes I just go by, you know,

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Speaker 1: just kind of like what I feel. It's I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of anecdotal stuff. He had the numbers to

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Speaker 1: back it up. When they play good good quarterbacks, good

519
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: good passing offense, is good offense. They haven't really even

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00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: been as he called it, a speed bump. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: just getting trounced. I just I just think I don't

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Speaker 1: think the defense is that far away from having a

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Speaker 1: defense that could be part of a complimentary team that wins.

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Speaker 1: To see, I don't think they are that there are

525
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: a few pieces away. They definitely need some pieces, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think that it's I mean, when you look

527
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Speaker 1: at it and compared to the comparison to the offense,

528
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Speaker 1: which just feels like we need to start over the problem.

529
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Speaker 1: So go back in time, right instead of taking Taekwon

530
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: Thornton in the second round, you know what about one

531
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Speaker 1: of those speedy linebackers. Well, I mean it looks fine

532
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: in retroster. I mean I think you need both. I

533
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 1: mean I think, you know, I think that speed at

534
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Speaker 1: wide receiver position is going to be another priority this year.

535
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Speaker 1: So it's hard to say, like, well can't I mean,

536
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: it's easy to say now given what we've seen from

537
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton to cancel out taking him. But I still

538
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: at the time like the idea of trying to get

539
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: faster and happening. Or you can even reach back into

540
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: the first round and say, you know what, we can

541
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Speaker 1: get a guard to do with Ian and let's take

542
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, somebody in the first take Devin Lloyd in

543
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Speaker 1: the first round, and then have taken Pickens take or

544
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: you a guy um Alec Pierce, who I didn't love,

545
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: but it's made some plays as an outside guys, come

546
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: on late, Um, you know, guy Pickens has had a

547
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: pretty good year playing with you know, a rookie and

548
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: a backup. Um. You know, I know he hasn't been perfect.

549
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: He's kind of raw. Sky Moore I think is more

550
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: of a niche player. Um, but I mean I liked him,

551
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: and I liked the idea of him, but he's he's

552
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: more of a niche player. I think that would have

553
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: been they needed someone I think that could make plays

554
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: on the outside. Let's say you Pickens or or Pierce

555
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: could have done that. Yeah, I would have liked to

556
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: see more in depth than the secondary. Um. I had

557
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: that take coming in. Jonathan Jones kind of pleasantly surprised me.

558
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, last last week, Miles Bryant is getting burned,

559
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones before the concussion getting burned. They're just I

560
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: don't know this. I don't know if it's size or

561
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: that has a lot to do with it. The Cole strange,

562
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: there's a reason why strange pick could be, I mean

563
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: could hurt the team. For we love like Marcus Jones

564
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: and Jack Jones have given us, certainly Marcus all over

565
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: the place, and I think they've they're ahead of schedule

566
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to great picks. Were relying. They weren't

567
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: in a last week. They were picked in what the

568
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: third and fourth round. The problem with Marcus Jones is

569
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: in this particular game, I completely absolved I mean, I

570
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: know I have a crush on Marcus Jones. I completely

571
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: absolve him of all responsibilities. I told you at the

572
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: end of when we did the post game show and hard,

573
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: he said, don't steal my good and I took someone.

574
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: I was like, is that you're good? He goes no,

575
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: I was gonna go I go oh. I didn't have him.

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00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have him on the good list, despite the

577
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: fact that he completely changed the game with his pick six,

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00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: because I watched the rest of the place, and I

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00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: didn't have him on the bad list either, because he

580
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: completely changed the game with a pick six, right, so

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00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: he falls in the middle. He made he made a

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00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: really good play and he got beat a lot. I

583
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: completely absolved him for getting beat a lot You're not

584
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: asking a five eight slot guy to cover t Higgins

585
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: on the outside. They had to do. That's not because

586
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: Bill's dumb. They had to do the last game. They

587
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: had had to do that, you know. And I think

588
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: you know Greg had the numbers that he got beat

589
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: six times or something like that for big plays in

590
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: that game, like he was on both. Yeah. Yeah, that's

591
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: why I said. I almost never see the game the

592
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: way Greg does, but I saw that game the way Greg. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, eight five five Pats five hundred is the

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Speaker 1: ace ticket outline web radio at Patriots dot com. Is

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Speaker 1: the email address lots. If I watched film lots of

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Speaker 1: emails coming on the tape, then it would just be

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00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: over for all of us. There is one email I

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00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: wanted to read. It came in last week, but I

599
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: just want to read it because it makes me feel good.

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Speaker 1: He says. This is from Captain Kirk Are, also known

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Speaker 1: as Sean starting to Quebec. He says, Um, I don't

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00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: know if you'll get a chance to read this, Toby,

603
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: I am. I've only been listening for about twelve years.

604
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: I found PFW in Progress by accident while searching for podcasts.

605
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: I was instantly hooked and have not missed an episode.

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00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan of the Patriots since the

607
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: early nineties. It has become a family affair. As I

608
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: started watching the games by myself, and as time went on,

609
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: I was joined by my girlfriend, who became my wife

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Speaker 1: and eventually my daughters. Late last spring I was going

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Speaker 1: about eventually became his daughter. No, the wife of the

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Speaker 1: girlfriend became his daughter. Oh, and he had a daughter.

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Speaker 1: Late last spring, as I was going about life, I

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Speaker 1: found out that I had cancer. At the time, I

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00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: was forty eight, and it took everyone, including the doctors,

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Speaker 1: by surprise. It was aggressive and it just started to

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00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: spread to my limp notes I had surgery to have chemotherapy.

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00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: I would save the podcast to listen to during treatments,

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Speaker 1: and it always helped. I tried not to laugh out loud,

620
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: as it was kind of frowned on, but there were

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Speaker 1: times I wanted to. You all really brought my spirits

622
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: up as the team itself struggled, but I was just

623
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Speaker 1: happy to still be able to watch. I've also never

624
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: missed the blog, even for as long as I've been

625
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast, even preseason. Sent a letter to

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00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: mister crafts. Thank you also last year, expressing my gratitude

627
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: for everything, including the show. I've since completed my treatment

628
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Speaker 1: and although I've been left with neuropathy in my hands

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Speaker 1: and feet, I'm cancer free and it looks like the

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Speaker 1: show has cured me. So there you go. So he

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Speaker 1: just wanted to let us know. So that's that's that's

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00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: a good email, friend. You were right to say that.

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Speaker 1: I just want to read it because it makes me

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Speaker 1: feel good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's not the first

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Speaker 1: person we've cured of cancer. No, but you know, it's

636
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: just good that, like people get enjoyment out of us

637
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: even when times aren't going. Yeah, it's great to hear. Yeah,

638
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: great to hear it. Thank you for sending you a

639
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: little bit. You don't hear that about your others shows? No,

640
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: they cause it, right, they don't. Right, you drove me

641
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: to the drink. They caused it for your articles. All right,

642
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: So we'll get into some emails. We get some calls

643
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: at eight five five five hundred taking out lines, So

644
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: let's take some of those. Two Mike's in Puerto Rico.

645
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: What's up, Mike? Hey, everybody, happy holidays. Thanks Mike. I

646
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: called a couple of weeks ago about having buyer's remorse

647
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: about going to the Arizona and to the Las Vegas game. Right, Um,

648
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: let's let's just say that the Las Vegas experience was

649
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: one of a kind and historical um in every sense

650
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: of the words. But a couple of mankes um, I guess,

651
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: open for discussion. The first of all, the reason was

652
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia the reason that um Butler didn't play in

653
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl or part of the reason why Butler

654
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: didn't play in the Super Bowl. We don't know for sure,

655
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: but it's been mentioned that you know, he had some

656
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: type of confrontation with him, But we don't know. Man,

657
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: No one knows for sure what happened, but most probably

658
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: our odds for that Super Bowl would have improved if

659
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: he would have played. And I transposed that too and

660
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: open for open for conversation. Born not playing this year?

661
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: Is it Matt Patricia related? And it's having the same

662
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: time type of effect of just not being able to

663
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: put the best team out there because of XO Y reason.

664
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: And then the other topic of discussion is is it

665
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: best for the what's best for the team to squeak

666
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: into the win This last two games, squeak into the playoffs,

667
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: I have a minor chance of winning the first game

668
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: or just losing the last two. So that way, there's

669
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 1: no excuse. There's nothing can be said as far as like, oh,

670
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: we just need a little bit more time with the

671
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: current system and this and the program that we were running. Um,

672
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: it'll be better next year. Listen. I think squeaking in

673
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: and having a chance to win a game isn't going

674
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: to change anything that we saw this year, you know.

675
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, now, I listen, if we have a chance

676
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: to get in and let's get in, let's get in.

677
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: But that doesn't you know, in my mind, doesn't change

678
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: anything that I've seen and I couldn't bills. That doesn't

679
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: matter and doesn't change anything in Robert Crafts mine, you know.

680
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: And I think we can get into that. Yeah, but

681
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: we should talk about that because it's a big topic

682
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: about like what happens in the offseason. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

683
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: thanks Mike. Um, I would just just just a quick

684
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: point to make, Um, I just I think he I

685
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: don't know for sure if this is what he was

686
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: getting at, but I feel like people are now getting

687
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: back into that. Well, if you just played Kendrick Bourne more,

688
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: he would have had a great season, and like there's

689
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: just not really a correlation between great. I mean there's

690
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: also been times if he just like drops the ball

691
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: for no apparent reason, or you know, is standing right

692
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: next to Jonah Smith when Jonah Smith Mike was trying to,

693
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, connect the dots between Patricia in both he

694
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: was involved in both the situations. I'm sorry, but it's Bill.

695
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: It's Bill Belichi. If Bill, if Bill wants Malcolm Brown

696
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: to play, I don't Malcolm Butler. I don't care what happened.

697
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: He would have played. If you wanted Kendrick Bourne to

698
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: play this year, I don't care what he did, he

699
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: would be playing. I agree, he's the boss. As he said,

700
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, I'm the head coach, right, blame me, right,

701
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: Like he's not letting anything happen this year that he's

702
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: strongly against, you know, so he was on board with

703
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: any decision that was made back then and now totally.

704
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: And I feel like Bourne feeds into this thing of

705
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: like just let cut it loose. I mean, I think

706
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: what you're kind of implying is just going to Kenrick Bourne. Yeah,

707
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of what it. Yeah, And I'm not

708
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: suggesting that Bourne shouldn't be playing more than he is.

709
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: I think he should, you know, I think there's something

710
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: to be said of like you're really working to get

711
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: you young guys time. But like I think Taekwon Thornton

712
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: has had a lot of opportunities, He's played a lot

713
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: of snaps. I think he's shown that he's not really

714
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: ready for the amount of work that he's gotten. So

715
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: if you really truly have the goal of maximizing this season,

716
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: I think but one should get those snaps over Taekwon Thornton.

717
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: But if you're looking at both, then I understand what

718
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: they're doing. I could see him like, what could he

719
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: have done that was so egregious that to this point

720
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: in the season where they can't get anything going on

721
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: offense except when he like occasionally makes well, there's no

722
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: particular reason, but there are several ways. That's not what

723
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: he said. He said no particular He said, no particular reason, right,

724
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: because you're ready, you're reading into something there that's not

725
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: necessarily act. I know, but they're not what we do.

726
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: He could be saying there are many reasons, not one,

727
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: and he could be he could be saying, and I

728
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: don't want to answer your question. Yeah, no particular reason

729
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: has worked out seventeen and well. And I think what

730
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: you're getting out Alex too. And what's hard is that

731
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: kenneck Bourne's so likable and has such a good energy

732
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: about him that you feel like this is what you

733
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: don't like him, pall. And I think he has a

734
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: good energy for the team, and I think I think

735
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: he's been a very negative presence in that locker room

736
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: all year. I think he's been calling out the coaches

737
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: and the play calling. And I don't like that. I

738
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: really don't. I don't think it helps. I was born

739
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: in it. And if friend's right, and it's no particular reason,

740
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: it's a lot of reasons that you shouldn't be on

741
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: the team. I'm not playing a guy who there's a

742
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: lot of reasons for me not playing him. None of

743
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: them can be football related, because every time he gets

744
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: on the team, he gets in the game generally he

745
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: does something. So it's all these non football things and those,

746
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: to me are that's the reason you lose your job.

747
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: And he's here. So I don't think that those reasons

748
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: are of them. Some of them could be football related.

749
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: In that. Yeah, he's good when you know, things break

750
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: down and we're desperate and we're playing schoolyard ball and

751
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: we just have to huck it up. But when we're

752
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: within the guardrails and we're trying to execute the game plan,

753
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: he's not running the right route. Okay, not getting the calls.

754
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: So get him off the team, you know, move on

755
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: with somebody else. Yeah, because when you don't play him,

756
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: then he goes in the locker room after the game

757
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: and he pitches about the play calls. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

758
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: I mean I would, I mean, I would say if

759
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: what you're getting at is correct, And I don't know

760
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is correct either. No, no, no, no no,

761
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not saying what I'm saying is

762
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's I mean, But I'm saying, if

763
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: it is correct, then I think you do have to

764
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: get rid of them, right. It's I'm actually saying it's

765
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: not that bad. I'm like, I'm with Alex. I actually

766
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: think he should be playing. But I'm making an argument

767
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: for the Fred thing. There's not not one reason, it's

768
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: no particular thing. It's a lot of reasons. Well, if

769
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: there really are a lot of things that he's doing wrong.

770
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Find somebody else who's not doing as many things wrong. Yeah,

771
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: no particular reason, yep. And at the same time, like

772
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: he'll let things slip and press conferences or the incident

773
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: in the golf cart with Mike Greece earlier this season. Like,

774
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: I think it's just that's Kendrick and he has a

775
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: really hard time shutting down a reporter because he's so

776
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: genuinely nice that he wants to Like, I don't know,

777
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: I just think he gets tongue tied with the media

778
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: sometimes maybe accidentally says he doesn't too honest, and it's

779
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I really blame him

780
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: or I just I mean, it's just just adds another

781
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: layer for me of getting everybody back on the same

782
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: page this offseason and Jacoby meyers status, Kendrick Bourne's status.

783
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit about the tight end status,

784
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's it's easy to see that

785
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: they could make a couple moves that we could all

786
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: justify right now, of letting Jacoby Myers walk, letting getting

787
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: rid of Kendrick Bourne. You know, all those things are

788
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: on the table, but it's gonna set them back with Mac.

789
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like you're going to clean house

790
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: of all of his favorite guys. And even if you

791
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: bring in Bill O'Brien, it's still kind of like, I know,

792
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: or Bill O'Brien and Derek Carr. Oh god, I don't.

793
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: I don't think. By the way, and does Derek Carr

794
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: wear eyeliner? Was discussion that. No, I think he's just

795
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: really niclashes and well his bottomlash. I think he does.

796
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: I think he don't notice someone's bottom eyelash. I think

797
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: he leads to a punk rock band. Yeah, he does

798
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: remind me of the head of Green Day. After the

799
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: game kind after the Games goes to Vegas. That's why

800
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: I want to go. He is a gig residency rubber

801
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: ring guy too, right, like, yes, rubbery I know it's

802
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: such a hard Oh yeah, yeah exactly. Wait where did

803
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams? I didn't look at it though, but it

804
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: sounded like Davanta Adams had some kind of social media

805
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: post he was liked, he liked he just look out,

806
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: not his burner, So you wouldn't be interested in that.

807
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: Fred hope, I hope for the show's sake, No, that

808
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: we we swing a deal I stay with Masha to

809
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: see how I would stay with mac Um. Yeah, seven

810
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: days a week and twice on Sunday over Derek Carr

811
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: right now, right now, that's crazy. I mean I kind

812
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: of agree, but I I just I think this is

813
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: a nail and Derek Carr's coffin. I wonder what I mean.

814
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's saying they got an out in the contract. They

815
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: can right after the Lena make sure he doesn't get hurt.

816
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: That's why he's not playing. I thought it was interesting

817
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: two people drawing the comparison to twenty twenty with Stidham

818
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: and Cam Newton, and that this was a move that

819
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: Bill never would have made. Bill didn't make the move

820
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: to just let's just see what we got. Let's put Stidham.

821
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: There was no money at stake. In order to do that,

822
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: he has to be healthy. They can't cut him for

823
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: with an injury, they can't trade him. I'm just saying

824
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: for the benching for the bench. But I'm saying that

825
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: if Cam Newton played two more games and broke a

826
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: leg and then you had to give him forty one

827
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: million dollars, he'd gotten benched. What you're saying, I see

828
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: what you're saying, like, if he breaks his leg in

829
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: those last two games, you have to pay him. No

830
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: one's trading for him now and you can't cut him.

831
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: And now that contract kakes in in March. That's why

832
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: he's not playing these two games. You learned me something, Paul,

833
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: Thank you away from Yeah, he pulled an Eric, he

834
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: stormed off. I told you he probably has a couple

835
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: of gigs later. I like the green Day that that

836
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: works for me. Billy what's it Billy Joe Armstrong? Is

837
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: that his name? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that works for me.

838
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Freddie Okay. I've always thought that, yeah, that he's he's

839
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: got that green Day Billy Joe. Look. Yeah, and I

840
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: thought that he he also has a little undertaker vibe

841
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: to him, like oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Uh. Tom

842
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: is in Torrington, Connecticut. Maybe Hey Tom, how are you

843
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: doing good? Hey time? Yeah. I just wanted to start

844
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: off by saying that I'm twenty one years old and

845
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: all I know is winning in the Tom Brady era

846
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: for this period of time is not usual for me. Yeah.

847
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: I've been going to games at least once a year

848
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: until recently my dad got season tickets, and I've been

849
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: disappointed pretty much every time I went, even when they

850
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: squeak a win in yeah. Um So my question to

851
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: you guys, obviously you don't know the future, but what

852
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: is your best educated guest as to win the next

853
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: time the teachers will be a super Bowl contender or

854
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: win the seventh best educated guests. I mean, I don't

855
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: think it'll be next year, but could they be. Yeah,

856
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: you can make you can make a bunch of moves. Yeah,

857
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, you realistically think they could. I think

858
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: two years from now is to me the most realistic,

859
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: like close state, Like, I don't think it can happen

860
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: next year, but two years from now, I just consider

861
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: the other teams, like I mean, I just I think

862
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: that there's still the significant ways behind Buffalo and until

863
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: they get a quarterback like you know Josh Allen's I mean,

864
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: well that's like yeah, when I said, you're not gonna

865
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: like my answer, I don't until you get it. I

866
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: don't think Buffalo is not going to win it this

867
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: year the super Bowl and after that they're gonna win. Plaude,

868
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too much. I don't think you'll I

869
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: don't think you'll ever be a super Bowl contender as

870
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: long as he's the quarterback. Yeah, it's like I mean,

871
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: it's like it was when when Tom was here. But

872
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I I will say though that look just

873
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: look at the parody in the league. I mean, the

874
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Patriots are seven and eight and they still could get in.

875
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: So if you just had a competent offense, you know,

876
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: I think then you would at least get to the

877
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: point where, hey, maybe something will happen. Like I'm not

878
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: really there, like they make the playoffs the Minnesota I

879
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: don't have the maybe something will happen, but maybe if

880
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: they could happen for them is that they played Buffalo

881
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and back to back weeks and they

882
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: both pulled call it Kyler Murray's or it's a blizzard. No,

883
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: they won't win. Allen and Mahomes tear the RACL the

884
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: three plays in like like Kyler Murray did. They're not

885
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: beating both of those teams in playoffs. No. But you know,

886
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: I remember in the eighties when the Patriots knocked off

887
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and they knocked off the Dolphins. Yeah yeah, yeah,

888
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: what what was that? Just out of curiosity, when when

889
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: was it that they knocked off Pitts, I forget, but

890
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: they made a run in they beat the Jets. The Jets,

891
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: they made a run. Then they beat the Raiders, and

892
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: then they'd be right. All three teams heavy heavy, heavy

893
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: underdoo the heavy underdo. They were heavy underdogs against the

894
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: Dolphins because they had never won in the Orange Bowl. Yeah, never,

895
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: they were, But they were not heavy underdogs playing the Jets.

896
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: Were they underdogs? I don't even know. I'll come on,

897
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: come on, but they weren't heavy underdogs against the Come on.

898
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: I remember Will McDonough on back then, he was the

899
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: NBC insider. He was the first insider in the NFL.

900
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: Every week he would come and say the Patriots gonna lose,

901
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: and each week he would get more and more mad

902
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: because he was wrong, wrong, wrong. Yeah, but it's it's

903
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: also different to suggest that you know an underdog and

904
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: all underdogs are the same. Like, okay, so the eighty

905
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: five Patriots did something that no one had ever done.

906
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: They won three road playoff games at the time, no

907
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: one had ever done that. They were eleven and five, like,

908
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: they weren't like under five hundred and only in playoff

909
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: contention because the league expected playoffs like there's a difference.

910
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: But in two years the pages could be eleven and

911
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: five and not quite you know, well, yes, one of

912
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: the great teams, but they could have. We're talking about

913
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: this year and I said two years from now they

914
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: could do. Because you said the other teams are gonna winplode. Yeah,

915
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: you don't think you're you're going to be good enough.

916
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: You think the other team's gonna come. Just talking about Buffalo,

917
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: I don't think Kansas City's gonna unplode. I don't think

918
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: the Bengals are gonna unplode. You know, So why do

919
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: you think Buffalo will because of red Ass and because

920
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: of just pressure? There? What? What is that? What is

921
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: red As? You don't know? M McDermott, I don't know

922
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Can you trans talking about

923
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: the coach? Of the coach? Because of the coach, he's

924
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: not any good. No, it's too much pressure. Took over

925
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: a more abund franchise, had twenty game in twenty years.

926
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna be too much pressure problem. They're trying to

927
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: build a stadium. It's gonna be too much and it's

928
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's all gonna come crashing. Is Josh Allen

929
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback in this scenario, or did he or did

930
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: he like get hurt? Because I think that's concern. That

931
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: is the way Josh Allen plays. He's a threat to

932
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: get hurt on any given Sunday. I think that's a

933
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: legit concern. I don't worry about the structure of the

934
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: team imploding. I will say one thing. I don't worry

935
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: about it, but it's gonna happen. I don't know what

936
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: the personnel will look like next year. On offense, we've

937
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: flirted with what the turnover is going to be. But

938
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: I think they're better this year than than they are then.

939
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: They've shown with the talent that they have, so I

940
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: do think that they could make a pretty good leap

941
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: next year if they get the offense in order, if

942
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: they solidify the tackle position, and you know, maybe you

943
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: got some speed arts, you could get better this year

944
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: than they were last year. That's a good question. No, Well,

945
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: they haven't played as well, but they are as good

946
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: like as talented? Are they? Or are they just I

947
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: don't think everything. I don't think that everything they should

948
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: be their worse. Do you think it's about the same? Uh?

949
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: Not too far off? I mean I think that if

950
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: they if they played, if they eliminated stupid stakes to

951
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: be about the same. Yeah, I think it's about the same.

952
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: I think they're probably not quite as talented, but I

953
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: like this a lot better because they have so many

954
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: more young guys that are playing active roles in what

955
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: they're doing. I don't think they're all going to pan

956
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: out all the you know, but there are a lot

957
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: of young guys that are that have been big parts

958
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: of what they've done. And I think if you're really

959
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: going to be optimistic about the future, you're looking at

960
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: the Jones boys in the secondary. You're looking at Barmore,

961
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: You're looking at Dugger, You're looking at Ouchy, and you're saying,

962
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: maybe I've had three decent drafts now in a row,

963
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: and I can go somewhere as opposed to Kyle van

964
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: Noy and Dante Hytower plugging gaps for another year, maybe,

965
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, but there how much longer are they going

966
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: to be around? You know? I think that's the big

967
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: difference between this year and last year, and the difference

968
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: in the record is just the caliber of opponents you've played.

969
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Yeah, I was actually I took your

970
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: question to specifically. Yeah, no offense, and I agree with

971
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: the way you guys answered the question, but I like

972
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: what you're saying though, and when you bring the defense

973
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: into it, the young guys and you know, specifically Marcus Jones,

974
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: I think is is a big piece of it. I'm

975
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: if they win this week and lose next week, which

976
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people kind of expect, and

977
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: they finished eight and nine and they don't make the playoffs,

978
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: I would consider this much better than ten and seven

979
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: making the playoffs last year because of the people that

980
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: were involved in getting Yeah, and Judean has really like

981
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: last year we saw him falloff. This year he seems

982
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: to be sustaining it and elevating everyone else in that unit. Yeah,

983
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: let's go, Hope. I think this this this reason for optimism.

984
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Deshaun and Pittsburgh. Kay DeShawn. Hey, Hey,

985
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to thot I can be much to

986
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: tie into it. What the past fellers just there when

987
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: they were talking about like the page was having a chance,

988
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: like I said, um, and I said before like if um,

989
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: if they could thought up being like the gym and

990
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: making the decisions or whatever, if we get talent you know,

991
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: somehow like some actually byway talent. I think we can

992
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: be very well in contenson for a Super Bowl because

993
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: even with Matt, I believe, even with Matt Jones or

994
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: somebody like Mac Jones, I believe that we can still

995
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: battle against most teams in the NFL. I really don't

996
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: think a lot of those teams are that good. Per

997
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: se I just didn't get buyed up because they was

998
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: pretty talented team. And when Bill's smart and coaching to

999
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: go along with some talent on that team, I think

1000
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: we'll be we can beat eby Okay, So that's the

1001
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: way I look at it. Get some more talent, Yep, yep, absolutely,

1002
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: thanks to Sean. I agree if there were a lot

1003
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: more talented, they could probably compete with the team started talented. Yep.

1004
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: Uh Aldred's in North Carolina, Hale, I wouldn't have a

1005
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: zero in the wind column. Tyler all right, Hey, question, um,

1006
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: did y'all's kitched it? Bill O'Brien press comfort, Hey did? Yeah?

1007
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: About did he say? I think I could hear all

1008
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: of it, but I think New England He did not deny.

1009
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: He said he hasn't had any contact with anybody in

1010
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: New England since April. But he did not deny any rumors.

1011
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: He didn't say he'd be back at Alabama. He didn't

1012
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: say anything really, so he could have been he didn't

1013
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: have any contact while he was in Foxborough. No, I

1014
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: don't believe. I believe, I actually believe what he said. Yeah,

1015
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: no particular reason, No, I don't. I don't think that

1016
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: he's had any because I don't. Fred. You said this

1017
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Fred, and I agree with you one hundred percent.

1018
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill O'Brien's the kind of guy that

1019
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: wants to float his name out there for a job

1020
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: that's that's not open, right, He's not the kind of

1021
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: guy like you know, I've taken my name out of

1022
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: the running for uh you know we've heard that before. Yeah, right, Yeah,

1023
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: I agree, And I think I think both he and

1024
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick have you know, honored the fact that O'Brien's

1025
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: got a job to do and you know, he's working

1026
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: for Alabama and that's where his focus should be. And

1027
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Bill likes Saban and he didn't want to, you know,

1028
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: and I think there was a lot to that, you know,

1029
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: the respect for in you know, the etiquette. Okay, I

1030
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: understand it. Okay, but the super Bowl top three years

1031
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: and they'd be after Bill's gone, three years after Bill

1032
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: is gone. No, he said it will be after Bill

1033
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: get talent and build a Biddle squad, right, like like

1034
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: everybody has normally do, right, So what if? So yeah,

1035
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: so what if Bill stays for another three years? So

1036
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about another rebuild? Are you saying three years

1037
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: from when Bill leaves? Is that what it is? Three years?

1038
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Whoopield when? Yeah, we'll be about the same when Bill

1039
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: leaves two years after, they'd be three years total. That's

1040
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: what I'm looking Bill's leaving after next year. Yeah, yeah, No,

1041
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: I know y'all said he got talent with the Jones

1042
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Boys and everything. I like this be too, But like

1043
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: I said, it's hike wise too, and we saw that

1044
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: last weekend. I just said, butts whatever, But then Mac Jones.

1045
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm like anybody else. Ye Chances go

1046
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: with him, chances can't go with him. Yea. You know,

1047
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: I just don't know what to you. I know what

1048
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: last year? You know, y'remn good last year. But like

1049
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: I said, you know, fish, yeah, you know, I would

1050
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: feel a lot better if Bill Belichick would come out

1051
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: and say, damn it, Mac Jones is our quarterback, because

1052
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: then I know that they're gonna do what they need

1053
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: to do to make him. But I don't know what

1054
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: a chance to do that yesterday? Yeah, not necessarily is

1055
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: our quarterback, but to defend his quarterback, right, that would

1056
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: make me past again. It would make yeah, yeah, you

1057
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: can ask them. Yeah, like forget about how it would

1058
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: make Mac feel obviously, but it would make me feel

1059
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: better if he said that, because then I know, Okay,

1060
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: they're invested, They're gonna do what it takes to make

1061
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: this guy successful. What do you think Bill likes Mac?

1062
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't I didn't ask you.

1063
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Do you know I asked you if you thought. I

1064
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: don't know. Why are we here? I think he likes him,

1065
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: but he's frustrated. It's frustrated, but maybe he conformed. Yeah,

1066
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like, like you hear all these

1067
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: stories that like you hear all these stories, and again

1068
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: they're just stories. Coaches are at each other, Players are

1069
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: at coaches. Coaches are at players, coaches are against coaches.

1070
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: We've heard stories of coaches being at each other's throat. Yeah,

1071
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: I heard it. This morning on the radio. You know, like,

1072
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: I don't know where this stuff is coming. I haven't

1073
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: seen any But if it's true, where does Bill said that?

1074
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: Where does Bill fall on this? I'm really here? I

1075
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: mean I haven't heard anything since the people are trying

1076
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: to drum up Judge first Patricia for like OC duties

1077
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: in the summer, but that I haven't heard any other.

1078
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: I haven't coach on coach client. It wouldn't surprise me.

1079
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: On most teams where things aren't working out, you get that,

1080
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: you get that. Oh yeah, everybody turns on each other

1081
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: when it's going bad. I have just hadn't hear any

1082
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: of that. Now, Yeah, I have some interesting thing. Yeah,

1083
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry too, Joe. The last thing. I hope they

1084
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: do keep boring and Myers and Hunter because to me,

1085
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: it is the nucleus of your offense. You know, if

1086
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: you did like you did back and when we had

1087
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: a defe with Karla Jones and you got rid of

1088
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: the other linebacker and you got ridk you know, you

1089
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: get rid of Malcolm Butler. You cute the core, you know,

1090
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: and I think do you like the core? That's the problem.

1091
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you like the core, keep them,

1092
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's interesting. I have some thanks, some

1093
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: numbers for mac that, you know, because I hear a

1094
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: lot of the they ruined them, they ruined them, they

1095
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: ruined them. And I want to go back now, the

1096
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: last five games of last year, which is the bye

1097
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: week on a right, So that's seventeen games now that

1098
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: he started, the last seventeen games that he started. So

1099
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: the last five games last year, he can he threw

1100
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: for five games, eleven hundred and sixty four yards, eight

1101
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: touchdowns and seven picks. Now this year he's throwing for

1102
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred and fifty yards and twelve starts, with

1103
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: nine touchdowns and eight picks. So that's seventeen games. That's

1104
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: a season. That's a full season. He's thrown for thirty

1105
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fourteen yards, seventeen touchdowns, fourteen picks, sixty

1106
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: four percent, and he's six and eleven. And by the way,

1107
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I didn't cherry pick the games. In other words, the

1108
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game that's in there. Yeah, I said the last

1109
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: five games last year, I didn't take out the good game.

1110
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: I didn't take out the good games this year, like Minnesota,

1111
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: I counted all of the last seventeen games, six and

1112
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: eleven in the last seventeen games that he started. I

1113
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: think this started last year. I think they figured him

1114
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: out last year. This isn't all about Matt Patricia. It's

1115
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: a lot about Matt Patricia. It's a lot about the

1116
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: structure of what they did and the fact that the

1117
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: players didn't believe in it from the start. That's a

1118
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: big chunk of this. Not denying it, but I don't

1119
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: think he's played as well as people give him credit for.

1120
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: Robert writes in Fred, thank you for playing the PFW

1121
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: theme song yesterday? Is that now have been stuck in

1122
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: my head for twenty four hours. As for the coaching staff,

1123
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: I have to thank Evan for bringing up the one

1124
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: word that's been drummed into our heads during the Dynasty years, accountability.

1125
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: Where is it? We've heard over and over about how

1126
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: everyone from Brady to the third string guard that only

1127
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: played on field goal units was held accountable during film sessions.

1128
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: If the coaches, including Bill, aren't holding the players accountable

1129
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: for their poor performances, then it's up to Robert Kraft

1130
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: a whole bill responsible for not holding the coaches accountable.

1131
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: It may be a delicate dance by Craft, but it's

1132
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: his money and his name on the paychecks for everyone.

1133
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: PS include me in the opinion that it's better to

1134
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: make the playoffs than not. Ask any Bills fan how

1135
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: they felt about the postseason absences during the Patriots dynasty.

1136
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: Not a good time. Yeah, I mean, banking the playoffs

1137
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: would almost be more about Actually, I mean, this isn't

1138
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: tooa because you're not really going to get the check. Hey,

1139
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: we finally beat twa off the list. But you know,

1140
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: if they were to win, I said yesterday, they were

1141
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: to beat Miami at home and then go into Buffalo

1142
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: and win, you know, in a in a straight up game.

1143
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those would be more to take

1144
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: away than whatever ends up happening in the playoff game

1145
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: when you feel like you're probably gonna I'm with you, guys.

1146
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of you know, well, you know,

1147
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: get the higher draft pick. I understand that if you

1148
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: look at it after the fact, Yeah, you know, we

1149
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: could have slid up five or six spots in the

1150
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: draft that would have helped us. I get it. I

1151
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: mean it's on paper, it's right there for you to see.

1152
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: But I do think that you try if you have

1153
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: the chance to make the playoffs. You put everything into

1154
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: that endeavor. You try to make the playoffs. Yeah, I

1155
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: think it really see the other side, I think, well,

1156
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: it's harder for me. It's just where that kind of

1157
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: like crossing over point where we're you know, starting to

1158
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: maybe some of the teams that are gonna be out

1159
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: of it are starting to look at the drafts. You're

1160
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: starting to see like some mock drafts, and so you see,

1161
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: I think I said yesterday there are eight or nine

1162
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: teams that are at seven and eight, like the Patriots,

1163
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: all right now, So you know that that's gonna be

1164
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: a lot of movement and you least the two games

1165
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: and you can get in the top ten. I get it.

1166
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't know. It's tempting. It's tempting.

1167
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: You look at the talent and you know, you see

1168
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, offensive tackles and top wide receivers, and right

1169
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: now Ki states that the tackle from my Islah state.

1170
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: Everybody says it's going to be a first the USC kid. Yeah,

1171
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: the two you know, man, I understand it, I get it.

1172
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: I just don't. I know, And at the end of

1173
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: the day, I want to I just like this. This

1174
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: is just I gotta get this off my chest too,

1175
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: Like the cold strange pick, It's just it's really hurting

1176
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: me right now, like I you know, and at the

1177
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: time you kind of tried to make peace with it,

1178
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: but it's just it didn't work out. He's not playing

1179
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: well at all and they're kind of stuck with him,

1180
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: and you just need first round talent on this team

1181
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: so bad. And to burn that first round pick on

1182
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: a guy who probably isn't really a first round pick,

1183
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a real tough look right now. Yeah,

1184
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get ready to go real quick. Fred.

1185
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: So I know you like to hear how everybody did

1186
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,479
Speaker 1: last week? Yeah, sure. So the picks The picks last

1187
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: week My and Paul ten and six, Fred nine and

1188
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: seven with a spread no surprise Paul nine and seven,

1189
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: Fred seven and nine, followed by Mike Week six and ten.

1190
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: So season standings, Mike, this is like five weeks in

1191
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: a row. Just I'm one fifty two, eighty six and two.

1192
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: Mike one fifty one, eighty seven and two, followed by

1193
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: Fred at one forty three, ninety five and two with

1194
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: the spread Paul one thirty eight ninety eight and four. Alex,

1195
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: that's dominance. Yeah, that's a lot of money. She looks impressed.

1196
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: Mike one eighteen one, eighteen and four. Thoroughly adequate in

1197
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: your adequosity, Fred one O eight one, twenty eight and four.

1198
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: So those are the numbers, and um, you guys can

1199
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: ye in the past half hour. You guys can be

1200
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: fast fast whips of Mike. I'm gonna leave this with you, okay,

1201
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: I'll do which that's a big comple I appreciate it.

1202
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't turn over the responsibility to just anybody. So

1203
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: now this week we can get all the pulse picks wrong. So, yeah,

1204
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: I see how you do it. All right, I got

1205
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: you and we got the lines. Okay, you really could

1206
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: screw with me by changing my picks, because I'd have

1207
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: no idea right that you changed him. I would say,

1208
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought you wouldn't notice that your old picks are

1209
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: scribbled out. I'm gonna do I'm gonna do it in pencil.

1210
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: We don't give that back. You gotta play the long game,

1211
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: and you gotta reprint it. I'll be sure to leave

1212
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: it on your desk. I'll lock it in your lockbox.

1213
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 1: Practice your handwriting touch it. No, I couldn't read your writing,

1214
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: so we just decided to type it out. You're giving

1215
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: us like the playbuff. Are we waiting for food meat? No,

1216
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: we are not waiting for Oh you didn't want to

1217
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you had to leave. I gotta, I got,

1218
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: I got. So. Since we're breaking, I just want to

1219
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: remind you that Bridgestone is the official tire of the

1220
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,280
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1223
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. When we come back, more

1224
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: calls and emails, and then eventually picks Verizon, the network

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1226
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. How did Verizon build the fastest

1227
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,040
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1228
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: right with five G ultra wide band. Then we give

1229
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,360
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1230
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,440
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1231
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1232
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,600
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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: claim based on open signal independent analysis twenty five times

1235
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,200
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1237
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,160
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1238
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1239
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,400
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1240
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,360
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1241
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1242
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,040
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Speaker 1: But like I said, this is starting to turn into

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1462
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: offense on the bench. And I don't know if the

1463
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: Patriots offense can do that. You know, yeah, they haven't

1464
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: been able. It's just so tough against Teddy because Teddy

1465
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: wants to check it down right, He's not too ah,

1466
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: He's not an aggressive downfield thrower like too is, so

1467
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: he wants he wants the short stuff. And if you

1468
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: just sit back in soft zone, right, he's perfectly fine

1469
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: playing like that. It's when you actually make him push

1470
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: the football down the field that he comes up and

1471
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: has some limitations. So if he's the just you know,

1472
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: theyre got the McDaniel motion stuff, play action stuff, and

1473
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: then he's just thinking and dunking all the way down

1474
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: the field. They can do that all day. How would

1475
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: you would you if you were you know, Steve Belichick

1476
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: Drawd and you know whoever on defense, would you just

1477
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 1: dial up like and take chances with pressure early just

1478
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, not you know, I'm not talking about selling

1479
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: out on blitzing, but just dial things up to just

1480
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 1: get in bridge Ward's face. Yeah. Yeah, I would love

1481
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: to see them do that. They did not do that

1482
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: last week against Burrow, and I think what we've seen

1483
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: against these elite quarterbacks is they have played a lot

1484
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 1: of soft zone against Burrow again, Josh Allen, against the

1485
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: Vikings a little bit. And I think that in a

1486
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: lot of ways, this is defense in twenty twenty two,

1487
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: where when you play these top five elite offenses like

1488
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: the Bengals, like the Bills, you're for ninety percent of

1489
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: the game surviving. You're just trying to tread water against

1490
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: them and not give up it all up in one play,

1491
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: and then you start to mix in some of your

1492
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: scheme stuff like the zero blitz they called against Cincinnati

1493
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: that resulted in the pick six, And that's when you

1494
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: pick your spots with it. Right. The days of just

1495
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: lining up across from a team in man coverage for

1496
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 1: four quarters and challenging them every single down, that's just over.

1497
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: You just can't do that as much anymore. So that's

1498
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: why everybody is playing the same kind of ben don't

1499
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: break defense. It's not just the Patriots, this is a

1500
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 1: league wide. That's why I want to But would you

1501
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: take more chances on? Yeah? I would. I was screaming

1502
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: for it against Cincinnati because they kept on backing off,

1503
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 1: and then I can understand against Burrow, But with Bridgewater,

1504
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: I think you might be able to get away with it. Yeah,

1505
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: I think early on, if you can try to get

1506
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: him out of rhythm, it's not a bad idea. I

1507
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: just was really hoping that Marcus Jones is going to

1508
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: be ready to go for this game because with him

1509
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: and John Jones against Waddle and Hill, I thought the

1510
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: defense could really control the game for the Patriots. I

1511
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: thought they had the matchups on defense to be able

1512
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: to do that. And when you play the soft zone stuff,

1513
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: you just your pass rush can't get home in time

1514
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: because they're just getting the ball out quickly because there's

1515
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: all this space underneath the defense, and it's just it

1516
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 1: just throws everything off. And I'm with Fred, and you know,

1517
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: I think a first quarter first drive, I would love

1518
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: to see them just challenge them anyways. You know, I

1519
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: know you might get burned, but that's sort of been

1520
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: the blueprint against Miami anyways, is that, Okay, you give

1521
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 1: up an eighty four yard touchdown to Jail and Waddle,

1522
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: you give up a bomb to Tyreek Hill, but the

1523
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: rest of the game you do a pretty good job

1524
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 1: on them, and you live with the fact that you're

1525
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: gonna give up two or three big plays. Yeah, all right,

1526
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: let's get back to the phones. Todd is in Canada.

1527
01:17:55,200 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: What's up, Todd? Hey, guys. Lot of this year we've

1528
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: said I wish Bill would do this, and I wish

1529
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: Bill would do that, And then when I've also heard

1530
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: I wish they would do this on offense, and I

1531
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: wish they would do this on defense. And I got

1532
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: into a little bit of argument with Evan last time,

1533
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: two times ago about you know, just how good our

1534
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: defense was and our defensive play calling. I think we

1535
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: got exposed in the Bengals. I think if the Bengals

1536
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: hadn't turned into the Bungles in the second half, it

1537
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: would have been like a forty something to three year out.

1538
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: And I'm just not sure, you know where if this

1539
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: philosophy can continue, the way the team works from the

1540
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 1: top all the way down, I think there's just a

1541
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of problems. I think the coaching doesn't seem to

1542
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: be functional on either side of the ball. The GM

1543
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be functional. Like you guys are really

1544
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: regretting cold strange, pick me too, right, I just this

1545
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: something is wrong right now. We haven't had like a

1546
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: solid core. We haven't had a team that we can say, Okay,

1547
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: we got this, we can build on this, yeah for

1548
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: five six years now. Yeah, So what do you think?

1549
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: What would what do you think that there needs to

1550
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: be a change in coaching slash front office. I think

1551
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: philosophy needs to change and I don't know if Bill

1552
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: can keep up with the current game. I don't think

1553
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: Bill's mentality allows him to go away from people like Bentley,

1554
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: even though he played a great game. Bentley's just he's

1555
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: a He's a plotter. He's a big, big plotter. I'm

1556
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: going to plug the whole. I'm going to you know,

1557
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: Bill's flots I'm going to stop the run and then

1558
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: take their two or three biggest players off the game

1559
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: if I cannon shut them down, and then see what

1560
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: they can do. Is this There seems to be an

1561
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 1: out of touch with the approach to football right now,

1562
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: and so Todd, I'm gonna push back on you again.

1563
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it on defense, all right, don't I

1564
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: tried not to, Okay, but to name name. I know

1565
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: you watched the league. So name me a defense in

1566
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: the NFL nowadays that plays the way that you want

1567
01:19:54,640 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: them to play, that's aggressive all the time, that gets

1568
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: up in everybody's face, that's that really tries to dictate

1569
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: the terms of the game. On defense, Well, I look

1570
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: at our team and I just thought about that. Dallas

1571
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: will let them take what they we can give, you know,

1572
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: We'll let them get their stuff to move their ball

1573
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 1: down there. We're going to try to not break and

1574
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: welcome to defense. In twenty twenty two, every single every

1575
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: single defense in the league is doing the same thing.

1576
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 1: They're playing too high shell, they're playing less man coverage,

1577
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: they're playing softs on. The Patriots and the Dolphins are

1578
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: two the most man coverage heavy teams in the league

1579
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: at around forty percent. That means sixty percent of the

1580
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: time they're playing zone right. Our quarterback pressures and sticks

1581
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: that we're supposed to be getting, well, they are getting

1582
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: gave good decent teams that they're not. Like, come on,

1583
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 1: last game, it was just the Pingles being the Bengals

1584
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: more than anything. Well that one previous games as well.

1585
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, Judon seems to take times out every once

1586
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: in a while or get really stupid and take a

1587
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: stupid belty. He's done that several times, and I just

1588
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: what happened. It's todd You're you're you're forgetting that, you're

1589
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: just leaving out Like Bentley had a pass defense in

1590
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: the end zone. So that doesn't really support what you're saying, Matthew, Judon,

1591
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: it forced a fumble at a critical time, you know,

1592
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: like you're making plays. I can be with you on

1593
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. I just I'm I'm

1594
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: with Evan, And I think this is the point that

1595
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: is coming out now, is that, like b you have

1596
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: to be realistic about how you can play defense in

1597
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: the NFL right now and what you have to do.

1598
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that the Patriots are the eighty

1599
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: five Bears. I don't think the eighty five Bears exist

1600
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: any Like, you know, you have a couple of defenses

1601
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 1: that are to imagine how imagine how a competent offense

1602
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 1: would compend that exactly. And so that's the thing, like

1603
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: put put an offense that you have some belief in

1604
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: that you say, cheez, if we do give up a drive,

1605
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: we know that our offense is going to put up

1606
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: at least fourteen to twenty one points in this game.

1607
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, I just I think it's hard to

1608
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: look at this defense in a bubble and just you know,

1609
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: without saying like they haven't really gotten any help this year.

1610
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: A lot of times when they played really well or

1611
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: given the opportunity to the offense to win the game,

1612
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 1: they can't do it, you know. And I think that

1613
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: they've continue to fight. I don't think they're perfect. I

1614
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 1: think that there's still a couple of real pieces away

1615
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 1: that they definitely need to, you know, really be really

1616
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: be good. But give them a competent offense, and I

1617
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: think that this defense is fine. And you know, I mean,

1618
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: I understand that everything gets kind of skewed because you

1619
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: look at like Josh Allen and they didn't bunt last year,

1620
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 1: and you know, all those things kind of kind of

1621
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: build up. But I just be realistic right now. But

1622
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: what defense is in the NFL right now? I just

1623
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: I think that's what we've come to this year. It's

1624
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to play perfect, it's frustrating to watch,

1625
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 1: it stinks, But every single team in the league is

1626
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. And this is just it's turned

1627
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: into similar to what it is in the college game now,

1628
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: where it's survival. On defense, it's survival and I hate it.

1629
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: Everybody hates it. And every single time I watch film

1630
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: on a defense, it's the same thing. They play the

1631
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: same coverages, they play the same style. This Miami defense

1632
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: tries to come after you a little bit more than

1633
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: the average defense, and they're getting burned. They're twenty seventh

1634
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: in the league and DVO on defense against the past,

1635
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: because they're blitzing and they're playing man coverage and they're

1636
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: trying to do what the Patriots might have done back

1637
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 1: in like twenty eighteen or when they really had great secondaries.

1638
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: Can't do it anymore. See that's and that's just like

1639
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: the thing I've and I was thinking a lot about

1640
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: this this morning. I kind of brought it up. I mean,

1641
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned TV away, So the Patriots defense

1642
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: is third in the league in dv away, third against

1643
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 1: the past, tenth against rush. You know, you want to

1644
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: go to more conventional stats, they're uh, fifth in points,

1645
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: eighth in yards, third in turnovers. Uh you know, it

1646
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 1: gets a little bit dicey with with some of the

1647
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: other you know, passing stats. I would say the third

1648
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 1: down one I highlighted earlier where they're twenty first in

1649
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 1: the league, is you know a significant one fifteenth in

1650
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: red zone. But I mean that all those stats aren't

1651
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: like completely wrong, like you know, they this is how

1652
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: they stack up. And as much as you can say, well,

1653
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 1: but everything good that happens to the Patriots defense is

1654
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: on the other team for screwing up, and they never

1655
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: give them any credit always you know, and there's you

1656
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: know and there's I mean, look, there is some truth

1657
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: to some of that. I mean Sam Alan Gerd mentioned him.

1658
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,879
Speaker 1: But they're still a pretty good defense, and all things considered,

1659
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: with the injuries that they've had in the secondary, I

1660
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: think you have something to build off of there. I

1661
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: feel better. I don't think we're gonna have the same

1662
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: kind of thing this year or we feel more concerned

1663
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: about the defense. We'll see how the coaching staff departures

1664
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: potentially affect that, but I think that they have a

1665
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: pretty good base there. I'd love to see them with

1666
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 1: a competent, complementary offense to see how good they adam

1667
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: in Dublin. Right since so, we could argue that the Vikings,

1668
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: Raiders and Bengals games should have been wins and we

1669
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: would be sitting at ten and five, But what would

1670
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 1: that prove. The offense has been doomed since Bill's decision

1671
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: not to fill a specialist role with a specialist candidate

1672
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 1: for the OC position. Bill is still an excellent coach

1673
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: in my eyes, but a succession planning to deal with

1674
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: the brain drain and more specifically Josh, has compromised a

1675
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: season imagine if the twenty eleven, fourteen, and sixteen teams

1676
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: had this defense. It's hard to get the balance of

1677
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: a team to swing your way every year, but this

1678
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: offense is playing below the sum of its parts, and

1679
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: Mac would become a lost cause. Bill took an unnecessary risk.

1680
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: This is not fourth and two. It's it's the risk

1681
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: if a season, and it's the risk of a season

1682
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: in a starting quarterback. I wouldn't have any other coach,

1683
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: but Bill the CEO needs to make better choices. All right, Yeah,

1684
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: don't disagree with any of that. I mean, we get

1685
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: back to the you know, the whole Robert Kraft thing

1686
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: and what's the discussion look like in the offseason, And

1687
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: a lot of it is, you know, we don't know

1688
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: what Bill's contract looks like, but if it, but if

1689
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: in it it says that you know, you can't coach

1690
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: for another team if you quit, then Kraft has all

1691
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: the leverage. Then he can go in and ask Bill

1692
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And if he doesn't like

1693
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: what he hears, then he can make demands knowing either

1694
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 1: Bill does what I have what I want, or he's gone,

1695
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, or or I'm gonna tell him to do it,

1696
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, and then if he quits, well, okay, but

1697
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: you can't coach anywhere else. But if he can quit

1698
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: and go to another team, then Craft doesn't have a

1699
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: lot of leverage, you know. So then that's the balance

1700
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: there is, how much can Robert put his foot down

1701
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: and force him to do something verse, you know, Bill

1702
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: saying screw you, I'm gonna go coach somewhere else. Yeah,

1703
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 1: And I think they will know the big pieces pretty quick.

1704
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as far as Evan and I

1705
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: have talked about wanting the coaching staff to get squared away,

1706
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 1: that's something that can get squared away before the Super

1707
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: Bowl even happens. You can start to make moves already. Well,

1708
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,799
Speaker 1: you have to, you know. I guess listening to Albert

1709
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: Breer today, he was on with one of the shows

1710
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: and he was saying, and you know, he knows there

1711
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: this type of work is being done now. If it

1712
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 1: hasn't already been completed, there's already coaching staffs in the

1713
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 1: works and people getting jobs, and you know, behind the scenes,

1714
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you wait till after the Super Bowl,

1715
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you're behind the eight ball. You've got like Bill O'Brien.

1716
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: I know they've got one more game. They're playing in

1717
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowl, I think, but the moment that's over,

1718
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: like the word has to be out to his agent

1719
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: already if you're going to bring him here, you know,

1720
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: like you can't wait. He's gonna have other options. You

1721
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: know you can't wait, and that I mean the second

1722
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: part for me then is what does what does free

1723
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 1: agency look like? What are the marching orders in free agent?

1724
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: Does he have? And I know that they don't have

1725
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: like the you know, all the space and money to

1726
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: work with it they had two years ago, but they

1727
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 1: have a little bit um. Do they focus in house,

1728
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: do they try to extend a Kyle Dugger or do

1729
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: they you know, do they try to you know, take

1730
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 1: care of that business first or is it a similar

1731
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: situation as two years ago where you feel like, all right,

1732
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: you gotta go out and get the players, Go get

1733
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: the players, you tell I believe what you need? Is

1734
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 1: he going to get the same kind of latitude in

1735
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 1: this free agency class based on how the last free

1736
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: agency class worked out, which there were hits and they

1737
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: were missing. But doesn't it make isn't it better for

1738
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: your free agent class? Because that happens in March, right,

1739
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: We know that there's stuff that happens before, but you know,

1740
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 1: you sign, you start signing guys as soon as March

1741
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 1: comes around. Isn't it better to do that if you're

1742
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 1: coaching staff is already set? Oh yeah, Like as a

1743
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 1: free agent, I know who my coach is going to be. Like,

1744
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: don't you want to get that set before you start

1745
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 1: build your players? I want to write that stuff while

1746
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 1: we still have access to hear from these guys, Like,

1747
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, while there's still you know it isn't they

1748
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: just disappear into the offseason, you know darkness, and you know, hey,

1749
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: we'll see you at a random press availability in April.

1750
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 1: You know, I'd love to just I want to hear

1751
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 1: the breakdown of it. I think Evan said yesterday, like

1752
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to get while the season just ended yesterday,

1753
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: we don't really know what we're gonna do. I like,

1754
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,600
Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear that right now. People want to

1755
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: hear when the season ends. We've had a long time

1756
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: building and knowing how it was gonna not how it

1757
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,799
Speaker 1: was gonna end, but what it's looked like this season.

1758
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: I want I as a fan. I want to hear,

1759
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 1: how were we going to improve an offense that was

1760
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,839
Speaker 1: near the bottom of the league in an all important

1761
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: categories period like that. That's it answer that question. And

1762
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: if it's like, well, we're just gonna try. I mean everybody,

1763
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: I think everybody is on the same page as far

1764
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: as Patriots Nation build all this. If he comes to

1765
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: us and says, hey, it's got to be better, this

1766
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do on offense, We're gonna make

1767
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: these changes. We're gonna I think everybody will be or

1768
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 1: a you know, like he's gonna do something right after

1769
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I don't expect all the

1770
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: answers to be given then, but at least we're gonna

1771
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 1: get back to you. You know, we're in discussion this year.

1772
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: It wasn't good enough. Um, you know I can get

1773
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 1: we can guarantee you that we agree it wasn't good enough.

1774
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,560
Speaker 1: And you know we'll have we'll have some we'll have

1775
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: some news soon. You know. That's all. That's all I

1776
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: need to hear. You're gonna have to concrete the actions.

1777
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: Are gonna have to speak out of him on this

1778
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: one because we're not getting that. But I'll say it

1779
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: again I said yesterday. I understand that there's the the

1780
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: unknown is scary, right, like the unknown of Like, Okay,

1781
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 1: this could go any direction. It could go back to

1782
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Bill Cook convince himself that I hear this a lot

1783
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: that Bill could convince himself that Matt Patricia's learning right

1784
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 1: and he's gonna learn on the job and year two

1785
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: just like a player, year two is going to be

1786
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: better than year one and all that. But from everything

1787
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 1: that I have pieced together about this situation, Bill knows

1788
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 1: it's it's as bad as we all do, right, Like

1789
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: he's not an idiot, Like he knows that the offense

1790
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: has been terrible. And I just can't imagine knowing that

1791
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 1: that he is aware of what's going on offensively, that

1792
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 1: his answer to everybody is going to be We're just

1793
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: going to run it back like it just that doesn't

1794
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: add up to me. And I don't I don't think

1795
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: we're going to get to that point. I don't think

1796
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 1: they're going to just run it back. I really don't. Uh,

1797
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: let's see a couple more calls. Let's go to Sam

1798
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: and Maryland. What's up Sam? Sam? Hello? Yes, Hey, how's

1799
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: it going guys, all right, first time caller, nice I

1800
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,720
Speaker 1: had to make a statement. I am from Maryland, but

1801
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get yelled at by that email

1802
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: or I'm originally from originally from Hyannis. You said, Okay, um,

1803
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 1: question for you guys. A guy that stated that he's

1804
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 1: interested in coaching. I mean, it's kind of a long

1805
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 1: shot because he's not in the Belichick tree. But what

1806
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: about Dan or Lofty quarterback. I think he's I think

1807
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: he's been a little bit too loud on Twitter's gonna

1808
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: be mad at him. I don't know. I mean, I like,

1809
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, I think he's good on TV.

1810
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: But I just I kind of like bristle that when

1811
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: guys on TV are kind of like actively lobbying to

1812
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 1: get back into football jobs, Like, I don't know, I

1813
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: don't need When is that work somebody from TV coming

1814
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: in being a good coach? Like it goes the other way,

1815
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 1: you got. I think the only example that I can

1816
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: really think of isn't even in this sport. So it's

1817
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,839
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr in basketball. Yeah, Steve Kerr went from TNT

1818
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: to GM to coach. But like if you to, you know,

1819
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 1: to be a coach, in really any of these leagues.

1820
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: It's got to be in your blood, like you have to,

1821
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: like because you have to go through so much stuff

1822
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: to get where you want to be in coaching. Although

1823
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: nowadays you can be in TV and then become a

1824
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: head coach for the Colts. But but you know, for

1825
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: the most part, like to put up with the hours

1826
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,799
Speaker 1: and and all that, you have to really love coaching,

1827
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: you know. And you wonder like if you if you

1828
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: if you quit playing and went into TV first and

1829
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: not coaching, do you really love coaching, you know? Or

1830
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 1: or now it's like I talk about it so much,

1831
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 1: I could do that, and then you realize how hard

1832
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: it really is and it never works. I think that's

1833
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: the biggest thing to me is like it's very easy

1834
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 1: for people like Dan Orlovsky or even people like me

1835
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: to watch the film and be like, this is what's

1836
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 1: wrong right now, go try coaching that to to twenty guys,

1837
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,439
Speaker 1: getting them to execute it the way that you want

1838
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,280
Speaker 1: them to execute it, drive it up correctly, like all

1839
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: those types of things like that. That's the difference between

1840
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: an analyst and somebody that actually does it for a

1841
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 1: little And oh, by the way, what about the analyst

1842
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 1: has works probably half the hours and double the pay

1843
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: of what a coach has to do too. You know,

1844
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would anyone want to go from ESPN

1845
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: inside the you know, NFL Live, which I mean it's

1846
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 1: is a really great show. That's why I asked, you know,

1847
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: like it's I'm sure there's an example, but for the

1848
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 1: most part, if you start out in TV, it's it's

1849
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: a lot harder to go to coaching than the other

1850
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: way around. NBC Sports Boston for a minute, right, Yeah,

1851
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: this isn't easy. It's hard, yeah, and inherently the ego

1852
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: of someone that does go to TV first, I don't

1853
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 1: think it's going to be suited for someone to be right, right, Yeah,

1854
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: you have to take your ego and stuff it in

1855
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 1: your pocket. I mean, not to mention like Dan Orlowski

1856
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 1: can go on there and say whatever he wants, like here,

1857
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,439
Speaker 1: you're a coach. You gotta get guys to perform, it's

1858
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: said coaching like they have to play well, like you

1859
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: have to trance like and the proof is out there

1860
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,719
Speaker 1: and it's not just like hey, I can put together

1861
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,640
Speaker 1: a thirty second Twitter video ripping them and it doesn't matter. Right,

1862
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: it's not gonna like like I can sit here and

1863
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: say like, let's run more RPOs, and then I can

1864
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 1: go out there and practice and be like, guys like

1865
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna take this from Alabama. We're gonna

1866
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: run this RPO and they're gonna come up to me

1867
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: and be like, but coach, what happens if this happens,

1868
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna be like, just run the play,

1869
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: like right, right, right. So that's the biggest difference is

1870
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 1: it's very easy to identify problems. It's very easy to

1871
01:33:58,120 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: say what I want to do, but can you go

1872
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 1: out there and actually get people to execute it? But

1873
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: that's part of like the experience though, too, is as

1874
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 1: you were a young coach, you would start to see, well,

1875
01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: this is what happens when they run this look in

1876
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: front of what we want to talk, you know, and

1877
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: you start to get that experience. But it takes a

1878
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 1: while and you might have to put your dues in,

1879
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: but I get that. I have to talk about what

1880
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: Parcels used to say when he was here, and one

1881
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: of the things he said is when coaching is teaching.

1882
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 1: If you're not a good teacher, you're not a good

1883
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: you're not going to be a good coach. Yeah, you know,

1884
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: you know so nowadays, if you can coach, you coach.

1885
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: If you can't coach, you go to TV. And you

1886
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 1: can't go to TV, you do one of those gambling sites.

1887
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: You know. That's Today's that's how it works today. Thanks Sam,

1888
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 1: or do you have anything else to say? All good? Thanks?

1889
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Sam? See it hyenas uh David's and

1890
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 1: Fort Myers is how's the weather down there? Dave? Oh,

1891
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: it's great, and thank you very much for asking. But yeah,

1892
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: I love the show guys. Just a question, Um, you know,

1893
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 1: we've thought about three to four seasons of mediocrity, you

1894
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: know from the Matrios and you know that cup, you know,

1895
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: added along with Belichick's you know, misfires in the draft

1896
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 1: and this huge fiasco with UM with Matt Patricia as

1897
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: the you know, defensive coordinator going now to be an

1898
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. How many more seasons do you think Craft

1899
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: will put up with um, you know, this output from

1900
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 1: the team before they say, you know, maybe try to

1901
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: go in a different direction, maybe get like an offensive

1902
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 1: minded coach. You know, I'm a I'm a huge Belichick fan,

1903
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,560
Speaker 1: but it just just hasn't been good. You know, we

1904
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 1: used to be the the well coached Patriots and and

1905
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: it just seems like the things that we once for

1906
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:38,720
Speaker 1: staples of our team are no longer like, you know,

1907
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: the good coaching. You know, we could we used to

1908
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 1: be able to get away with with less than you know,

1909
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 1: elite talent because of our coaching, but that just is

1910
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 1: no longer the case. Yeah. How much of a leash

1911
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: do you think Belichick has with Craft? I think as

1912
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: assuming that offseason conversation goes, well, one more season, you know,

1913
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 1: and then that's to see some progress. Like I don't

1914
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 1: think you have to win a super Bowl next season

1915
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 1: for him to keep his job, but I think you

1916
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 1: have to see that Okay, we're going in the right direction. Yeah,

1917
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: and it's going in the right direction. I think, boys,

1918
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: David go back to my earlier point of like just

1919
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,640
Speaker 1: get to that point where no are you are you?

1920
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, we don't have Josh Allen, we don't have

1921
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,719
Speaker 1: Patrick Moomes, but at least in an in any given

1922
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: Sunday situation, you feel like they might be able to

1923
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: take any That's the thing with Pete Carroll. You know,

1924
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: he was here for three years and he started out

1925
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: making the playoffs and they were just going in the

1926
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 1: wrong direction. It was only a three year stint. But

1927
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, Robert Kraft just you know the quote he

1928
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: failed fast. He's like, okay, this, this is not going

1929
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 1: in the right direction, and he cut bait um. You know,

1930
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to do that if you know you're

1931
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: not going in the right direction. But like you said,

1932
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 1: if it's going in the right direction after this year,

1933
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: then Bill stays, Yeah, it's just I think it's a

1934
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,759
Speaker 1: hard thing to to to put yourself in an owner's

1935
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 1: shoes and all the different things that you have to

1936
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 1: take into account as an owner of a franchise. It's

1937
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 1: you know, yes, it's it's certainly winning, but not everybody's

1938
01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowl every year. I knew

1939
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: it would be hard. Post Brady, post Belichick. Everybody's just

1940
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 1: been kind of waiting to, like for the Patriots to

1941
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 1: stink so you can gang up on them, be like,

1942
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: finally get back at those guys. You know, like you

1943
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: just knew a lot of vitriol out there waiting for

1944
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots downslide. But you know, you want to have

1945
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: local energy, you want to have you know, getting people

1946
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: out to the games and that like, you know, having

1947
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: that kind of even though they're not a Super Bowl team,

1948
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: they you know, have a good energy about them right now,

1949
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: and that's it's hard to see that right now. It

1950
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 1: just seems like they're kind of teetering a little bit

1951
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: on the edge of going one way or the other.

1952
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's it's a really hard thing

1953
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 1: to manage as an owner. All right, Um, we got

1954
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 1: a few more calls, but we'll hold them on. Hold

1955
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: on if you want to hang up, maybe and call

1956
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: back for Catch twenty two, which is following us immediately

1957
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: at two o'clock and they'll be on YouTube video as well,

1958
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: so you want to hang on for that. So if

1959
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: you want to hang on the phone, you can do

1960
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,719
Speaker 1: that or hang up and call back at two o'clock.

1961
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: But right now, it's that time of the week. You

1962
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 1: can't say Paul, I can't say week this is this

1963
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 1: is his super Bowl. Every week he left, he left

1964
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: his picks. Uh so, um, he's still winning. If people

1965
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: didn't catch earlier in the show win now, Yeah, you're

1966
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: only one game behind, right and the overall right, it's crazy,

1967
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 1: but the week, but he's killing us in the where

1968
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: it counts. I know, well, he picked the perfect week

1969
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: to get away, because now if I do pass him

1970
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 1: this week, he's gonna think this one straight up, giving

1971
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: us the ways that we could cheat without him knowing.

1972
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 1: I think sums up every week. People can tell me

1973
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:50,799
Speaker 1: that's not what you pick, Fred, But anyway, Um, Okay,

1974
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: we start with tonight, um eight fifteen on Prime. The

1975
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 1: eleven and four Cowboys are at the seven and eight Titans,

1976
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think Henry is playing. And

1977
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 1: it's Josh Dobbs at quarterback for the Titans. Okayis Tennessee

1978
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 1: plus twelve and a half, and I guess I get

1979
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: to go first. Um, I don't know. I don't know

1980
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 1: what Josh Dobbs is. I don't know who that is. Um,

1981
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 1: So i'm gonna I'm gonna take Dallas and I'm gonna lay.

1982
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the points. Yeah that's a big spread,

1983
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go Dallas both ways. Dallas does weirdly

1984
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 1: fall into these traps against these bad teams, though, I

1985
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: will say, but you can't stire a guy off the

1986
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 1: practice squad eight days later and beat a team that's

1987
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: good like the Dallas Cowboys. So I'm taking the Cowboys

1988
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: and I'll take them to cover it. It seems like

1989
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 1: a big spread, but you can win the game like

1990
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: twenty to ten, are like twenty to seven and beat

1991
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,560
Speaker 1: the spread, you know, so you don't really have to, like,

1992
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, score a lot of points to actually beat

1993
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: that spread. Paul did take the points with Tennessee. Oh

1994
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: did he is this before he knew that? Josh Dobbs

1995
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 1: just ye quarterback? Maybe? Okay, Hey, you're gonna cut out earlier.

1996
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: You're lost. Well even if you will say that he

1997
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: did anyway, all right, you got both Dallas both ways? Yeah,

1998
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: I got Dallas both ways. Um Sunday at one, uh,

1999
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 1: the four and eleven Cardinals are at the five and

2000
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 1: ten Falcons. This game is for the Birds, literally and figuratively.

2001
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:24,560
Speaker 1: We got the Falcons minus three. Paul took San Francisco

2002
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 1: both ways. Wait what what are you? Sorry? Atlanta? Sorry

2003
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: it didn't match up? Come on, what is he? He's

2004
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 1: got very bad lines? Atlanta both ways for Paul um

2005
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 1: and you know what, that's what the deuce is going

2006
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: to do too. I'll take Atlanta both ways. M Yeah,

2007
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: Atlanta both ways? Okay, so I'm confident about the Desmond

2008
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: ritter for the Falcons. Yeah, I like me some ritter.

2009
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Falcons both ways as well, and

2010
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: my my runner up if it's not Bill O'Brien, Cliff

2011
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: Kingsbury gets fired by the Cardinals. Would love that, I think, really, yes,

2012
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: love it. I'm gonna go with the Falcons both ways

2013
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: their home so uh. Sunday at one, the three and

2014
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: twelve Bears are at the seven and eight Lions and

2015
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: a tough loss Bears. This is Detroit by six after

2016
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,839
Speaker 1: a tough loss last week. Paul went Detroit both ways,

2017
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 1: and that's that's what I'm gonna do to Detroit. Allay

2018
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: the points, Lions to win, Lions against the spread. I

2019
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 1: like the Lions to win because I think they all

2020
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: they will play hard for Dan Campbell, even though I

2021
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: think this game is meaningless for them. But I like

2022
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the Bears to cover. I think the divisional game it'll

2023
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:42,920
Speaker 1: be close. Evan is correct, that's the call. Take the Lions,

2024
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 1: but take the points. Sunday at one, the seven and

2025
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 1: eight surging Jaguars are at the two, twelve and one Texans.

2026
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: Houston by sorry Jacksonville. Buy a four and a half

2027
01:41:56,360 --> 01:42:00,080
Speaker 1: and what are the sharp snow here? So not they

2028
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:01,680
Speaker 1: they got to win this one, right like to to

2029
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: set up next week to be kind of for the division?

2030
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 1: Is that what we're Yeah? Well, I mean if they're

2031
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,040
Speaker 1: both seven and eight, right, so if the Titans lose

2032
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys and not necessarily so, it's it seems

2033
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: like it's head in that direction. I'm gonna take Jacksonville,

2034
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm

2035
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna take the points with Houston though, I think it'll

2036
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: be really Yeah, all the Sharps that I would think

2037
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 1: that that spread would be a little bit more. That's

2038
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: why I think the Sharps know something here. I'm gonna

2039
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 1: give it all to the Jaguars Jacks, Trevor, this is

2040
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: a It's a good game for the Jaguars to learn

2041
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: what they're really about, because this is a trap game

2042
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 1: to right division games against a team that's playing for nothing.

2043
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 1: If they're the Jaguars of old, they somehow find a

2044
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 1: way to lose this game. But I don't think they are.

2045
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,680
Speaker 1: How professional are we? I take the Jaguars, I take

2046
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 1: them to cover. I think they they win that division

2047
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,719
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I'm going I'm riding with Trevor Lawrence

2048
01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:00,400
Speaker 1: Jaguars both ways. I'm I'm happy for him, you know,

2049
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: I hate waste the talent. Yeah, and I'm happy that

2050
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: he's starting a role. I just think it's good for

2051
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: the league. You need quarterbacks. You need good quarterbacks in

2052
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,599
Speaker 1: the league. Yea. Not in Jackson though, Yeah, I don't,

2053
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just thinking of the person. Not to

2054
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: the Jets though, and they'll be actually good. Sunday at

2055
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: one the four and eleven Broncos are at the twelve

2056
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: and three Chiefs. Two games in a row on the

2057
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 1: road for Broncos. That's that's weird. That's really outside of it.

2058
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's going to help them. Fred.

2059
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: This is Kansas City by twelve and a half, I

2060
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: might add, And I think that I'm gonna lay every

2061
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 1: single one of those twelve and a half points, casey,

2062
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: casey for me. Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs. As well. The

2063
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: Broncos their interim head coaches like they're Ernie Adams, because

2064
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: they went through like three assistant coaches and all of

2065
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: them said they didn't want the job. So that that's

2066
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: an absolute mess. So in Denver. Yeah, I'm surprised because

2067
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: AFC West is is pretty competitive, or it has been

2068
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 1: over the but Mahomes has never lost to the Broncos.

2069
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 1: Is that right or sounds right something like that. Maybe

2070
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: haven't been very good sincere but they have those weird

2071
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: repetitive games and the ricks. I'm just a little surprised.

2072
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Chiefs both ways. Uh,

2073
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: they you know, I know they're twelve and three, but

2074
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 1: their offense has to kind of get a little bit

2075
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: more consistent. You know, they have these lulls during games

2076
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,560
Speaker 1: where you know they're just not doing much. Um, So

2077
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,680
Speaker 1: they have to get ready for the playoffs. So I

2078
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna play hard. Um, eight and seven Dolphins.

2079
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: This is at one o'clock. Oh, I have to skip over.

2080
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what are we doing? Yeah? What am I doing?

2081
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 1: One o'clock? Um for four? The four ten and one

2082
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 1: Colts are at the eight six and one Giants. That

2083
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 1: is the Gyn minus six and god, what's going on

2084
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 1: in Indie? Now? I don't need Carson White is coming back?

2085
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't know in Indie. Yeah, I know, No, he's

2086
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: coming back. In the command is it? Oh? Sorry, jeezus,

2087
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,360
Speaker 1: I lost my mind right there, didn't I that would

2088
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 1: be that would be a neat trap. Sorry, I messed

2089
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 1: up my Carson Wentz history. Um, and not that it

2090
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 1: really matters. I'm gonna go the frightened Brian Dables minus six.

2091
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 1: I'll take the Giants both ways. Me too, I take

2092
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: the Giants both ways as well. The culture tanking, Yeah,

2093
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,559
Speaker 1: there's starting Nick Foles in that game over. Matt Ryan

2094
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 1: is a full on tank job. So I think they

2095
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: keep tanking. Yeah, I think the Giants both ways as well.

2096
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: Sunday at one six and nine, Saints are at the

2097
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 1: thirteen and two Eagles. That's the Eagles buy five and

2098
01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: a half. It hurts back, I think, Yeah, I just

2099
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: saw that update Nick spotted Nick Sirianni's what's the number

2100
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,520
Speaker 1: playing close to the best five and a half Philadelphia,

2101
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:53,440
Speaker 1: Paul went Philadelphia both ways. Um, yeah, I'm gonna go Philadelphia.

2102
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm gonna take those points. I

2103
01:45:55,120 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 1: just think it's gonna be a weird player, weird close game. Yeah.

2104
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: I like uh, I like Mike strategy here final Yeah,

2105
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 1: I like Philly both ways. So what what is Philly

2106
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 1: wrapped up. They've they have, They've won their division, They've

2107
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: won the division? Do they have? So the cow Boys

2108
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 1: have four losses? They have two? Who else? What's San

2109
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 1: Francisco all they've actually? Uh, I think they've only clinched

2110
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: the playoff berth technically, yeah, because San Francisco has four

2111
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 1: losses too, so there's two gates. So yeah, that's not

2112
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,360
Speaker 1: that's not sold yet, so they still have to play. Yes, yea,

2113
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: so at lal, I'm sorry giants all around. Yeah, Philly, Philly, Philly,

2114
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: I'm a mess. I don't Philly Philly. You're running the

2115
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 1: ship over there and he's falling apart. Everyone can tell

2116
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 1: Paul what a great job I did. I'd appreciate. Did

2117
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 1: you already pick out? Did you? Yes? Uh? Yeah, Okay,

2118
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Eagles. But Sunday at one, six and nine,

2119
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: and Panthers are at the seven and eight Buccaneers that

2120
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,799
Speaker 1: would be where's TV whether it is Tampa Bay minus

2121
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: three and Paul went Carolina both ways and that's playing

2122
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: well running the ball. Huh. I don't think I'm gonna

2123
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 1: do that, though, I'm gonna go Tampa Bay both ways.

2124
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go Tampa Bay to win, but

2125
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: I Am not going to give them the points. I

2126
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: like Tampa Bay as well because the one thing that

2127
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: the Bucks defense does really well stop the round. I

2128
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: don't think Carolina is gonna be able to run on them.

2129
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 1: So I'll take the Bucks both ways. I'll take the Bucks,

2130
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: but i'll take the three points, you know, because Brady wins,

2131
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 1: but you didn't win by a lot like nineteen sixteen

2132
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: and games like that. So I'll take the Bucks, but

2133
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: I will take the three points. Sunday at one, six

2134
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: and nine Browns or at the seven, seven and one Commanders.

2135
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: Now you can talk about I can talk about Carson. Yeah,

2136
01:47:56,600 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: what the hell are they doing? Washington minus two, I'm

2137
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna take. I'm gonna take Cleveland. Shoot, Paul took Cleveland

2138
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,840
Speaker 1: both ways. Um, I'm gonna take Cleveland both ways though too.

2139
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentzz gonna do him in. Yeah, Cleveland

2140
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 1: both ways. The commanders are fallen off there. I don't

2141
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: know what the commanders are doing with this Carson Wentz thing.

2142
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 1: It makes zero So I know Taylor Heineke hasn't been

2143
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 1: playing lights out by any means, but this is ridiculous

2144
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: I like the Browns both ways too. I think that

2145
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, unfortunately, is gonna have a good game at

2146
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 1: some point and look like the old Deshaun Watson. I

2147
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 1: like your disclaimer. Yeah yeah, this is where you have

2148
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: to have a feel for the league, which I haven't

2149
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 1: had this year. But my feelings say that the Commanders

2150
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 1: win this game. Wentz comes in and you know, every

2151
01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: dog has his day and he's gonna play all right,

2152
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: and the Commanders are gonna win this game. Now we

2153
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: moved to the late slate four or five eleven and

2154
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 1: four forty nine Ers or at the six and nine Raiders.

2155
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:02,120
Speaker 1: Jared's Stidham. He's getting ten, go by ten. So two

2156
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:17,600
Speaker 1: ex Patriot quarterbacks, right, uh yeah, you gotta uh we

2157
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,000
Speaker 1: don't like a pig Paul win San Francisco both ways.

2158
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take San Francisco to win, but I'm gonna

2159
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 1: take Steady. No, I can't do it. That's both ways.

2160
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 1: What's the spread again? Ten? It's a lot of points niners.

2161
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 1: But no, yeah, I'm not just saying this because I

2162
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 1: kind of want Josh McDaniels to come back here. But

2163
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: Benching Derek Carr might have lost the locker room. It

2164
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: might have because not only are you alienating you're starting quarterback,

2165
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 1: but now you're also alienating your best player in DeVante Adams.

2166
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: I think the forty nine ers roll in this game.

2167
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:01,839
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I am two forty miners. What if Stidham

2168
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: has a great game. I don't, I don't. I don't want.

2169
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 1: I don't want the next two weeks, right, I mean

2170
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 1: I I don't care about Vegas. I'm talking about here.

2171
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:17,559
Speaker 1: What is that do to want? Yeah? I don't want

2172
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 1: to read the clips on Monday mornings. If that happens. Oh,

2173
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 1: you'll hear it. You'll hear it. I'm gonna take both ways.

2174
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 1: Um four h five. The seven and eight Jets are

2175
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 1: at the seven and eight Seahawks Seattle or sorry, Jets

2176
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 1: minus two, and who's quarterbacking there is Mike White. Um,

2177
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I got I got a good vibe.

2178
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:43,959
Speaker 1: I think. I Usually I don't pick against the Seahawks

2179
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 1: at home, but I'm gonna go with those Jets. I

2180
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: don't know, Mike White. Maybe they got something going Seahawks

2181
01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:57,600
Speaker 1: both ways. So this is you know, cook, this is

2182
01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 1: do or die basically for both teams. But especially for

2183
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,719
Speaker 1: the Jets. If they lose, they're out of the playoffs.

2184
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: So I like Seattle, I do. I think the road

2185
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 1: thing is a factor. I think that that crowd give

2186
01:51:09,120 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: that crowd wants a playoff game, regardless they're not like here,

2187
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: you know they're not. Let's let's get the pick right now.

2188
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 1: They want the playoffs. I hate doing it, but I'm

2189
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Jets. I think. Uh. I think

2190
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: the DVA is for real and they'll score just enough.

2191
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 1: With Mike White. Paul was on the Jets both ways.

2192
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, four twenty five. The twelve and three, right,

2193
01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: I forgot about them. In the NFC scenario, the twelve

2194
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: and three Vikings are at the seven and eight Packers

2195
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 1: Packers minus three Packers. Packers are favorite. Packers are rolling, yeah,

2196
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:53,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna and I'm gonna go with them. I

2197
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: just I'm not a huge believer in Minnesota, and I

2198
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: think Green Bay, in Green Bay, this time of year,

2199
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: the way they're playing, I think they can pull it out.

2200
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: This is something the Sharps know something here. Yeah, they're

2201
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: betting with Rays the spreading Aaron three. But the Packers

2202
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: are favorite seven and eighteen favorite over a twelve and

2203
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: three team. It's the frozen tundra? Is it going to be?

2204
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 1: What's the weather out there? Just about January? Probably should be.

2205
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: The Vikings are now an indoor team, which is weird.

2206
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: Doesn't you know? It doesn't even compete. Wait, they an

2207
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 1: outdoor team? Yeah? When were they an outour team? Oh?

2208
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:30,599
Speaker 1: That's right. They always played in that metrodome? Yeah, the metrodome. Yeah, yeah,

2209
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: I just I'm going way back with Bud Grant even

2210
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:36,080
Speaker 1: before that. I guess, oh yeah, I don't know who

2211
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 1: that persin, don't know who Bud Brandt is. I'm just messing,

2212
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: what do you got Green Bay Packer? You said Minnesota,

2213
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: but Packers cover? What do you say? Packers win? Minnesota covers?

2214
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: Got it? I want to pick the Packers, but I

2215
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: don't know if Christian Watson's going to play in this game.

2216
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 1: You got banged up in the last game. But I'm

2217
01:52:55,920 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: gonna go Packers. I think they're rolling. No, he wants

2218
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,120
Speaker 1: to play the Packers like that's that's gonna be a

2219
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: tough out on the playoffs, and I think they make it.

2220
01:53:05,479 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: I think they squeak in, which is incredible crazy. It's

2221
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 1: a division matchup, which kind of always makes things a

2222
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 1: little weird when you're you know, looking at just Oh yeah, right,

2223
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: you know that's they know each other, right, They usually

2224
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: closer games. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Vikings both ways,

2225
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: well if they win, obviously making a power move. Yeah,

2226
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Vikings in this game. I

2227
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: mean they keep winning, they keep winning. UM four twenty five,

2228
01:53:36,920 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: the five and ten Rams are at the nine and

2229
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 1: six Chargers. Both teams at home, but the Chargers are

2230
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 1: at home. It's a Chargers minus six and a Hay

2231
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 1: so they've clinched a playoff spot. Get some more brand

2232
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 1: and Staley doing the well yoga you got? You got

2233
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 1: a name on that one. Yeah, it's called the It's

2234
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 1: called Performative Coaches. Cato cat House is what I know what.

2235
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 1: According to Kyle Van Noy, that's a real coach, by

2236
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 1: the way, because he has relationships, not just they go

2237
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: out after practice. He's got my phone in his cell

2238
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 1: phone to speed dial to cat House together. Um yeah,

2239
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with the LAC. I

2240
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 1: think they're they're rolling right now. Both ways. Yeah, me too.

2241
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know who's playing quarterback for the Rams

2242
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: in this game, doesn't really matter, doesn't really matter. I

2243
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: want to pick against the Chargers because they they have

2244
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: these let down games where they've already clinched the playoff

2245
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 1: berth and it just feels like one of those walky

2246
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: Chargers games. But I'm gonna take I think Justin Herbert

2247
01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 1: has figured it out a little bit here in terms

2248
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 1: of winning. Right. We's always a good quarterback, but now

2249
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: I feel like he's he's got it kind of rolling.

2250
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 1: I agree. I think Charges win this game. Um all right,

2251
01:54:55,800 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 1: eight twenty uh the seven and eight Steeler are at

2252
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: the ten and five Ravens. Another big divisional game, Ravens

2253
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 1: by two and a half. Yeah, big game. We don't

2254
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: know about Lamar though, right he's still kind of up

2255
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: in the air. Probably not. Yeah, I'm just gonna go

2256
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: for it with Baltimore. I think they got a little

2257
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: more to play for at this point. They need it.

2258
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Baltimore. Yeah, me too, Ravens. Both ways.

2259
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Steelers are still in it somehow. I mean they're very

2260
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 1: very long shot because the tie breakers are not in

2261
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 1: their favor, but they're still in it. Kenny Pickett's playing

2262
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: a little bit better these days. But I'm still taking Baltimore.

2263
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 1: What's that number again? Two and a hay only two

2264
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 1: and a hay boy, if the number was bigger, I

2265
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:45,880
Speaker 1: take the Steelers. I'm just gonna take the Ravens here.

2266
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: They find a way even without Lamar. All Right, Monday Night,

2267
01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: eight thirty twelve and three Bills or at the eleven

2268
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: and four Bengals. Great game we got, Cincinnati is getting

2269
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:00,880
Speaker 1: a point. So Buffalo and buy one on the road

2270
01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati. Great playoff preview. Man Um just so impressed

2271
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 1: with Burrow, how how calm and collected he is in

2272
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 1: the pocket. Tell you, though, if he makes those mistakes

2273
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 1: against the Bills, he loses. Maybe, Yeah, I gotta go

2274
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,280
Speaker 1: with Buffalo, though I still think they're they're the best team.

2275
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Buffalo both ways, Buffalo both ways. I'll

2276
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: go with the Bills as well. I think this is

2277
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 1: one of those games where you want to make a

2278
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 1: statement like I'm the best quarterback in the NFL, not

2279
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 1: you you know what I mean, that sort of thing,

2280
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 1: and I think Josh Allen does that. Yeah, I'm gonna

2281
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 1: go with the Bills. If the Bills win this game

2282
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 1: thirteen and three. Um, Casey can still Casey can still

2283
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: do Yeah, the Bengals would be that out of the

2284
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 1: number one seed race, and they would be if Baltimore wins,

2285
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: and they're right up against it in the Division two.

2286
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, Cincinnati both ways. Oh wow, Okay, all right,

2287
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: he didn't like the spot. Yeah what did you got, Fred? Bills? Bills? Yea,

2288
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,320
Speaker 1: all right. Now we go back to Sunday at one,

2289
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 1: the eight and seven Dolphins visit the seven and eight Patriots,

2290
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:10,560
Speaker 1: who Patriots minus three at this point. Still, I do

2291
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 1: like the Patriots in this one. I think it's three

2292
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: three points though, is about the range of where I

2293
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a close, close one. I

2294
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 1: will take the Patriots to win, and I'll lay the points,

2295
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 1: but I think it's a low twenties kind of a game.

2296
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Patriots twenty three twenty twenty three, nineteen.

2297
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick a push, but I'll go

2298
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: Pats both ways. Good job, Paul, no push. I'm gonna

2299
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: take the Patriots. We'll do twenty four twenty one. I'm

2300
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 1: taking the Dolphins. I wanted to take the Patriots in

2301
01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: this game. But no, Marcus Jones is no point out

2302
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 1: for New England, especially with all the other cornerback injuries

2303
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 1: that they I just don't know how they match up

2304
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,880
Speaker 1: on defense in this game enough, so I'm not saying

2305
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins are gonna score forty, but I go

2306
01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 1: twenty one sixteen, my emmy. Again. The Patriots have the

2307
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: ball in the fourth quarter and find a way to

2308
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: mess it up. Oh come on, sorry, it's just the

2309
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,760
Speaker 1: way it's gone. This is what's gonna happen. Sorry, I'm

2310
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna pick it yeah and approve nothing game. The Patriots

2311
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: win nineteen sixteen, So they figure it out. They do

2312
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 1: take chances on defense. It pans out early enough for

2313
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots to get a lead and they end up

2314
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: holding on for nineteen sixteen win. The Patriots start out, well,

2315
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 1: I've been That's something that I've been waiting for me

2316
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 1: this team. Can you have a good first quarter? I've

2317
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,200
Speaker 1: been hidden out this week. That's been. That's my Deuce's

2318
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: key to the game. I'd just like to see a

2319
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: game where they start well, get some confidence, feel like

2320
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 1: hey we're going you know, just some good energy going

2321
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:46,640
Speaker 1: and maybe some inspiration to the defense and Hey, we

2322
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:48,760
Speaker 1: got some help today from the other side of the ball.

2323
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 1: You know, Like I said, it's a rotating cast of like,

2324
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 1: don't turn it off, so don't take too many panels.

2325
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 1: So do you think it's Kendrick Bourne comes out and

2326
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 1: like from the start, has a lot of reps? No? No.

2327
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,080
Speaker 1: Do you know why I think no to that? Is

2328
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 1: because I don't like it looks bad? Right? If he

2329
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 1: comes out and has another hundred yard game and they've

2330
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 1: been sitting him on the bench all season, Yes, with

2331
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: this coaching staff one hundred who else are they going

2332
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 1: to throw it to Devonde Parker concussion protocol. I'm just

2333
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:25,160
Speaker 1: telling you. If they do that and it's only because

2334
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 1: of optics, that's what are we doing that. I've been

2335
01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 1: asking myself that question. That's a fireball offense. This is

2336
01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. What are we doing? All right? Rip pay,

2337
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 1: I can tell you what we are doing. We're getting

2338
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: ready for Catch twenty two. It's coming up right now, um,

2339
01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be live on videos, so we're not

2340
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 1: going to audio, staying with the video for the guys,

2341
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. If we didn't get to

2342
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 1: your call or email, you've still got another hour, so

2343
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 1: Alex and Evan are up next. As for us, Pregame

2344
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 1: Social ten forty five on Sunday postgame show. We'll see

2345
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:04,440
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