Speaker 1: Get in technology with tech Stuff from hastaff dot com.
Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. Today, ladies and gentlemen, I have a real
Speaker 1: treat for you. I have Luria Petrucci on the line
Speaker 1: with me. Luria is a friend of mine. We met
Speaker 1: at c S I think for the first time many
Speaker 1: years ago, and she If you don't know who Luria is,
Speaker 1: I'm going to fix that right now because you need to.
Speaker 1: She's an important voice in technology and has been for years.
Speaker 1: She's a pioneer in the field of covering tech and
Speaker 1: explaining its significance and how it affects us. And she's
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. She has done amazing things. Her story is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: You need to go and research her. Luria, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Welcome, And I think you might have taken
Speaker 1: it a little too are I don't know if anybody
Speaker 1: can call me important. I think you are downplaying. You're
Speaker 1: downplaying the role Loria. Let me let me put to
Speaker 1: you this way. This is absolutely true. I'm not blowing smoke.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not you know, flattering you. This is
Speaker 1: absolutely the truth. Before I worked at how Stuff, works
Speaker 1: dot Com. As I was getting into that, I was
Speaker 1: following all sorts of text stories and there were there
Speaker 1: were really only a couple of of outlets that I
Speaker 1: regularly went to, and I would follow your work and
Speaker 1: I followed c net. Those were the two so like
Speaker 1: buzz out Loud, that group, that's who I followed, So
Speaker 1: Tom Merritt, Molly Wood, Jason Howell, uh Veronica Belmont. Those
Speaker 1: were the folks that were following over at c net
Speaker 1: at the time. And then I was following you, and
Speaker 1: that was before I had finally made it. Well, actually,
Speaker 1: you know what, the very first time I met you
Speaker 1: may have been at a south By Southwest and it
Speaker 1: just really impressed me because you were you just came
Speaker 1: right up to me and chatting with me. And that's
Speaker 1: when I was like, hey, I made it because because
Speaker 1: I've got talking to me, and now I've got you
Speaker 1: on the show. And and Luria, we we were chatting course,
Speaker 1: and we were chatting before about you know, what would
Speaker 1: we like to cover, and you you pitched an idea
Speaker 1: to me, this idea of how technology can be a
Speaker 1: tool for us to not shut the world off, which
Speaker 1: is the way I think a lot of people portray tech, right,
Speaker 1: they say that our personal gadgets have have made us
Speaker 1: focus on the screens of our phones and ignore everything else.
Speaker 1: But rather how there are certain types of technology, whether
Speaker 1: it's actual gadgets or applications, that encourage us to go
Speaker 1: out and explore the world, to be part of the world.
Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's a really valuable narrative because
Speaker 1: it's so in opposition to the accepted truth that if
Speaker 1: you are into tech, you hide yourself away in the
Speaker 1: basement and you surround yourself with all your gadgets and
Speaker 1: you you don't have any interactions with the quote unquote
Speaker 1: real world. And uh so we're going to explore that today.
Speaker 1: And um yeah, And I think you know this comes
Speaker 1: from my my recent obsession with trying to get out
Speaker 1: into the world. And I've uh yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: sit behind my computer, I get involved in my tech.
Speaker 1: I have for eleven years of doing tech shows online.
Speaker 1: And I moved to the Pacific Northwest two years ago,
Speaker 1: sorry a year ago, and um, I just became so like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm I'm in the Pacific Northwest. It's
Speaker 1: this amazing place, gorgeous hikes everywhere, mountains, oceans, rivers, like
Speaker 1: everything is around here and I'm sitting in front of
Speaker 1: my computer. What am I doing? This doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: And I love the outdoors and I love to go
Speaker 1: on hikes, but I don't do it enough. So I
Speaker 1: started looking at ways of getting um out from my
Speaker 1: computer and taking technology, which I still love, and getting
Speaker 1: it out, getting um exploring the world, taking in the
Speaker 1: world around us. And I've been encouraging our audience to
Speaker 1: do the same with a weekly show about it. And so, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just been it's been an obsession of mine because
Speaker 1: I think we often do spend too much behind time
Speaker 1: behind the computers. But you're right, like technology can be
Speaker 1: something that allows us to do more out and about. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I one of my earliest episodes of tech stuff, UH.
Speaker 1: We published it on January nineteen, two thousand nine, so
Speaker 1: this wasn't even a full year of tech stuff yet.
Speaker 1: We started in the summer of two thousand eight. In
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, we published an episode UH, and we
Speaker 1: were specifically looking at GEO cashing. It was actually called
Speaker 1: GPS games people play And for those who don't remember,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't judge you. It has been something
Speaker 1: like seven hundred and fifty episodes since then, so I
Speaker 1: get it. But geo cashing came the The idea came
Speaker 1: from people who are already enthusiasts about GPS receivers. And
Speaker 1: if you're of a young age, you may not be
Speaker 1: aware that GPS receivers when they first came out to
Speaker 1: the consumer market, we're not terribly useful. One they were
Speaker 1: not in your phone and to the devices you would
Speaker 1: get were expensive. And three they were not terribly accurate.
Speaker 1: On purpose, the US government had restrictions on how accurate
Speaker 1: a GPS receiver could be two within something like, you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred meters, so that you could not use them
Speaker 1: for what we use them today, and the purpose of
Speaker 1: that was to preserve national security. But over the years
Speaker 1: those restrictions were lifted and people who were really enthusiasts,
Speaker 1: like the early adopters of GPS receivers, came up with
Speaker 1: this idea, what if we were to make a game
Speaker 1: of it. And I created like a little a little
Speaker 1: hash a little box filled with tiny you know, goodies,
Speaker 1: usually some sort of like trinkets, key chains, that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. I hit it, I noted the coordinates, and
Speaker 1: I listed the coordinates on a website, and other people
Speaker 1: could see what the coordinates were, plug it into their
Speaker 1: GPS receiver and use that to guide themselves to the
Speaker 1: location where I hit it. Now you've already got gamification
Speaker 1: in there. You know, it's a treasure hunt, which I
Speaker 1: think the humans out there love a treasure hunt of
Speaker 1: some sort, right, So yeah, you tap right into that
Speaker 1: primal desire, like the idea of seeking and finding something.
Speaker 1: There's something really compelling about that, and you add the
Speaker 1: technology to it. And then on top of it, the
Speaker 1: people who started doing this began to go to places
Speaker 1: that they fought thought were really inspiring or beautiful or
Speaker 1: something that a person should really experience, and they would
Speaker 1: hide the treasure box there, and that way it became
Speaker 1: not just a treasure hunt but a discovery. You would
Speaker 1: go to a place you had not been before, and
Speaker 1: you would see something that someone else had found impactful
Speaker 1: for one reason or another. And I found that story
Speaker 1: so compelling, so interesting that that my co host and
Speaker 1: I did a full episode on it, and we've followed
Speaker 1: it up a couple of times since then. But that
Speaker 1: was the first time I really thought about using technology
Speaker 1: almost in a tangential way to get out there and
Speaker 1: explore the world. And uh, I want to hear some
Speaker 1: of the things that you have encountered in your experiences
Speaker 1: of covering this particular topic. Okay, and now from Geokashi,
Speaker 1: we have Pokemon Go. But I'm not going to mention
Speaker 1: Pokemon at all in this episode because Pokemon Go it
Speaker 1: just is way overtalked about, and I don't think we
Speaker 1: should mention Pokemon Go at all. This isn't this is
Speaker 1: fair because I think I think that that when we
Speaker 1: first started talking about this, I said, let's not talk
Speaker 1: about Pokemon. I did a full episode of Pokemon Go
Speaker 1: and it published probably about two weeks too late. Oh no,
Speaker 1: because because we're past, we're past that peak, that that
Speaker 1: that game is now on the down slope. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's still people who really play it, but the I
Speaker 1: would I have a friend who still really play. But
Speaker 1: I have a friend who just posted she said I
Speaker 1: got to level thirty, but I wasn't happy with the
Speaker 1: choices I made, so I started over. I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, oh my god, I don't. I don't haven't.
Speaker 1: I never hit level twenty. I gave up before then.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about my friend. Actually, okay, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to hear your friend. She actually started to
Speaker 1: She changed her phone so that she didn't have to
Speaker 1: use her boyfriend's phone in order to play the game. Right,
Speaker 1: when you when you're making when you're making hardware decisions,
Speaker 1: that that tells you that is that's the definition of
Speaker 1: the killer app, right, because if you make an app
Speaker 1: that is so compelling, people go out to buy the
Speaker 1: hardware so they can put the app on the hardware.
Speaker 1: You've struck gold, even if they have even if it's
Speaker 1: only for like a month and a half, you've struck gold.
Speaker 1: But we are not going to be talking about Pokemon
Speaker 1: go on this episode, all right, So let's talk about
Speaker 1: some mother just after Um first and foremost. Now, this
Speaker 1: has just come out recently, the d j I Osmo mobile. Um.
Speaker 1: This is a wonderful gadget that I that we've fallen
Speaker 1: in love with around here, h do you know what
Speaker 1: it is this yet? I know what d j I does,
Speaker 1: but I want to hear more about this. So d
Speaker 1: j I is of course the drone company. Um, and
Speaker 1: they came out with a little gimble, a handheld gimble.
Speaker 1: So it's like a steady cam. It is UM, So
Speaker 1: it's like just a little, you know, hand tell selfie
Speaker 1: stick if you if you think about that, except it
Speaker 1: doesn't extend to be like a selfie stick. But it's
Speaker 1: just a it's a it's a handheld gimble. UM. You
Speaker 1: put your phone in it and it keeps your video stable.
Speaker 1: So basically, like if it can do so much, it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty incredible. So you take it and you've
Speaker 1: got a steadicam on the go for all of the
Speaker 1: photos and the video, all all the video that you're recording,
Speaker 1: and uh, it will track you through like you can
Speaker 1: set it to track somebody, so uh set it to
Speaker 1: go and as somebody moves around or as you move around,
Speaker 1: you can can keep the video stable, not only stable,
Speaker 1: but also keep track of the person that you're trying
Speaker 1: to shoot. It's not just it's not just a dumb gimble.
Speaker 1: It actually has some some motorization so that it can
Speaker 1: it can stay keep in on a specific person. That
Speaker 1: is really cool. It is brilliant. And now at first
Speaker 1: when I on packed it, I was a little disappointed
Speaker 1: because they don't include like, they don't include all the parts,
Speaker 1: so you have to kind of like piecemail it together
Speaker 1: on and through the order process, which we didn't understand
Speaker 1: it first. So like if you have if you have
Speaker 1: one phone versus another, you might have to order different pieces.
Speaker 1: It's the power adapters. So if you can you can
Speaker 1: actually charge it um so you know, with with the
Speaker 1: one battery that goes inside of it, you can charge
Speaker 1: it through um, just a cable. But if you get
Speaker 1: an extra battery pack and you get the charging station,
Speaker 1: the power adapter for the charging station doesn't come with it,
Speaker 1: which I found really odd. Um, that's just stupid in
Speaker 1: my opinion. But uh, they anyway, so you have to
Speaker 1: piecemail that together. So I was a little like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, DJ, come on. It sounds like they were
Speaker 1: taking a note from the uh the Japanese smartphone market
Speaker 1: where everything has been standardized. So you never get a
Speaker 1: charging chord when you buy a smartphone in Japan because
Speaker 1: since all the chords fit all the phones, they think, well,
Speaker 1: once you buy a charging kit for one phone, it's
Speaker 1: good for all of them, so therefore it never comes
Speaker 1: with the hardware anymore. But that's not the world we
Speaker 1: live in. That is not the world we live in.
Speaker 1: And to make it worse. So if you have a
Speaker 1: d j I Phantom four or you know, a drone,
Speaker 1: then you have a cable that will charge it, but
Speaker 1: it's a proprietary cable, so you have to already be
Speaker 1: well inside the d j I ecosystem in order to
Speaker 1: have Yeah, I think most of us don't have those
Speaker 1: just laying around in the cord drawer at home. No.
Speaker 1: Luckily we did because we have a Phantom four, But
Speaker 1: otherwise I would have been screwed. So just be aware
Speaker 1: of that. And it does take a little bit of
Speaker 1: a process to get it set up. You know, these
Speaker 1: these motorized gimbals are not the super easiest to set up,
Speaker 1: so it's not like you're going to unpack it and go, um,
Speaker 1: so you do need to settle aside, like fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: to get it set up. We did a blog post
Speaker 1: about how to do that, just because it's a little
Speaker 1: bit weird. But um, once you get it going, it's
Speaker 1: like the most brilliant thing in the world, and we've
Speaker 1: been using it for everything. So like steadicams have been
Speaker 1: traditionally a super expensive piece of equipment that takes a
Speaker 1: ton of practice. Um that not everybody has the skills
Speaker 1: to do UM, and so this really puts it in
Speaker 1: your hand and it makes it UM easy ish. You know,
Speaker 1: once you get a set up, it makes it easy
Speaker 1: for everybody to have steady video on the go. So
Speaker 1: I have really fallen in love with it. It's only two,
Speaker 1: which is brilliant. Yeah, especially when you if you were
Speaker 1: thinking like a two or nine or a gamble, but
Speaker 1: we're talking about one where with this tracking ability, it
Speaker 1: makes it fantastic. I mean, it means that you can
Speaker 1: actually shoot decent movies with a phone. I mean we've
Speaker 1: seen that get become more and more of a thing.
Speaker 1: We've even seen some kind of experimental films that have
Speaker 1: been shot at least in part with phones. This makes
Speaker 1: it even easier where if you're not like because it
Speaker 1: it's it could be difficult when you're shooting with a
Speaker 1: phone just making sure that you've got everything in frame,
Speaker 1: especially if you're using a forward facing camera as opposed
Speaker 1: to the rear facing camera, and having that that tracking
Speaker 1: ability is fantastic. UM. Yeah, I I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you mean when it comes to developing that skill with steadicam.
Speaker 1: We have a steadicam set up here at work for
Speaker 1: UM for for small DSLR type cameras, not even a
Speaker 1: big camera type. Uh. And I there were so many
Speaker 1: days where the video crew you would just see them
Speaker 1: walking around the office, swooping around, practicing their moves because
Speaker 1: we had a shoot coming up. Uh. It's very entertaining,
Speaker 1: but a little distracting when you're at work. That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah for me, I got. I got doubly excited, not
Speaker 1: just from a gadget perspective and from a mobile perspective,
Speaker 1: but also because one of my other brands is I
Speaker 1: teach video and live streaming, and that made it just
Speaker 1: incredibly easy for me to say, Okay, just get this
Speaker 1: and you're good to go. You know you can. You
Speaker 1: can skip all that other high tech stuff and all
Speaker 1: the uh the classes or training you would need and
Speaker 1: get something that can really get you up to speed
Speaker 1: pretty quickly once you get past that actual learning curve
Speaker 1: and all the shaky cam goes away in the world
Speaker 1: that I can't wait for that. And also because because
Speaker 1: the way the mount is, at least in all the
Speaker 1: pictures I'm looking at of this, it has has the
Speaker 1: phone already in portrait mode, which gets rid of the
Speaker 1: other issue that I have with all video shot on
Speaker 1: phones except except. One of my team members actually found
Speaker 1: on d j i's website a picture of a mom
Speaker 1: using this this piece of equipment with it in portrait mode,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what, why why? But yeah, it
Speaker 1: is a lap dape mode where you get that nice
Speaker 1: you get that nice horizontal wide and the way that
Speaker 1: we're used to watching videos on screens. Um. Yeah, It's
Speaker 1: one of those things where where whenever I see apps
Speaker 1: that are designed to share video from phones, I get
Speaker 1: that almost all of them always start with a portrait
Speaker 1: only mode because that's how we tend to hold our phones.
Speaker 1: But let's get past that as soon as possible, alright,
Speaker 1: So one next. All right, So All Trails App. Um,
Speaker 1: this is an app that I have been using for
Speaker 1: years to find hikes around me. Um. This is it's
Speaker 1: called All Trails, like all the trails in the world. Um.
Speaker 1: But um, it's a It's an app that is full
Speaker 1: because it's been around for so long. It has a
Speaker 1: huge community of people flushing out all of the information
Speaker 1: and giving reviews, um tips for particular trails. So when
Speaker 1: you go into the All Trails app, you can just
Speaker 1: locate trails around you. So um and this is this
Speaker 1: is a great way to get out and if you
Speaker 1: need to have your phone on you at all times,
Speaker 1: you can use it while you're on the trail and
Speaker 1: get tips about what to look at or what to
Speaker 1: go exploring, you know, through through the throughout the trail.
Speaker 1: Um so people will tell you know, okay, you can,
Speaker 1: well you can when you can. You can filter by easy, moderate,
Speaker 1: or hard. Um and people are very specific, like okay
Speaker 1: on this particular trail. If you don't exercise a lot,
Speaker 1: that's cool, this is not this trail is not for you,
Speaker 1: you know, like um and and they're very they give
Speaker 1: very good and accurate advice on this app. So I
Speaker 1: have loved this app for years. Um I used it
Speaker 1: to find things like even and when I when I
Speaker 1: lived in Dallas, I didn't think I had many places
Speaker 1: to go out wars um and this app told me
Speaker 1: about places that I never would have found out about
Speaker 1: otherwise without some major googling. Um So it was. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a great app. If you are a hiker
Speaker 1: or you want to just go explore some cool places
Speaker 1: around you that you probably don't know exist, use this app.
Speaker 1: Um It's free, but they do have a pro version
Speaker 1: that gives you even more UM for I think it's
Speaker 1: and I saw you talking about this on a recent
Speaker 1: video over at geeks live dot com, and it was great.
Speaker 1: You were at a gorgeous hiking location, there's like a
Speaker 1: waterfall and all this kind of nice stuff. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a fantastic way to showcase how the app can
Speaker 1: let you discover places that you would not have known
Speaker 1: about otherwise. And uh, you touched on something that I
Speaker 1: think is also really inspiring about this particular type of tech.
Speaker 1: Now it's not the case with everything that falls into
Speaker 1: this category, but there are a lot of things that
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the exploration style gadgets and
Speaker 1: technology that have depended at least in part, if not primarily,
Speaker 1: on uh sort of the crowdsourcing of information. Geo cashing
Speaker 1: is definitely that way. That's how it started. In fact,
Speaker 1: if it weren't for crowdsourcing, it wouldn't exist. Um And
Speaker 1: so it not only does it reward you by giving
Speaker 1: you places to go and check out and see, it's
Speaker 1: always possible that if you see something that isn't on
Speaker 1: one of these apps, that you have discovered something that
Speaker 1: is in fact a publicly available trail and you're not trespassing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you can. You can share it and increase the
Speaker 1: functionality and the value of that app and even perhaps
Speaker 1: lead someone else to discover that same place that you've been.
Speaker 1: It also makes me like I over the summer, I
Speaker 1: went to northern England. Um, actually I went to all
Speaker 1: Over or the British Isles. It was fantastic. But one
Speaker 1: of the things that really struck me, and it I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about this as a cultural thing, but
Speaker 1: in England there are walking trails all over the country,
Speaker 1: and the culture in England is that those walking trails
Speaker 1: are available for people to walk across, even if it
Speaker 1: crosses private land, because the trail itself is um is protected. Um.
Speaker 1: But so it means that you can walk from one
Speaker 1: shore of the UK to the other on some of
Speaker 1: these trails. Uh. And often it's a several days of
Speaker 1: hiking in order to do all of that. And that's
Speaker 1: it's a very different culture than what you find here
Speaker 1: in the United States, where obviously private property we treat
Speaker 1: it very differently. And yeah, I have been guilty of
Speaker 1: saying that, but I am old and I am allowed.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, it's it's this allows you to go
Speaker 1: and find those places where you are allowed to explore
Speaker 1: and to have those experiences. There's so many times where
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have had access to that
Speaker 1: when I was traveling when I was younger, because I
Speaker 1: would find out later after having gone someplace like, oh man,
Speaker 1: that that looks like that was right around the corner
Speaker 1: from where we were. Uh For example, there was a
Speaker 1: trip I made with my wife to Kawaiti, beautiful place
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, one of the most gorgeous islands I've ever
Speaker 1: been on. And there's so many different waterfalls in Kawaiti
Speaker 1: that you can hike to and go and see in
Speaker 1: trails that you can go to, and we went to
Speaker 1: maybe two and afterward you've you've then come across all
Speaker 1: these photos you think, wow, um, well, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a reason to go back. But it's nice to have
Speaker 1: uh apps like this to to really help you and
Speaker 1: guide you so that you don't miss those opportunities, whether
Speaker 1: they are the ones that are in your neighborhood or
Speaker 1: someplace that you're visiting. Absolutely, yeah, you you've hit it
Speaker 1: on the head. I usually talked about it in terms
Speaker 1: of where you live because we don't know what's around
Speaker 1: us even. But yes, when you're traveling, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a great use for it for sure. All Right. So
Speaker 1: we've got we've got our our motorized gimble, we've got
Speaker 1: our app to discover hiking trails. What else have you
Speaker 1: gun in store for us? So I do have another
Speaker 1: hiking app, but a totally different twist on it. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's called I really don't know how you say it, Karen.
Speaker 1: I guess it's k A I r in So Karen
Speaker 1: is how I'm saying. So make it so excellently. Um.
Speaker 1: This is all about safety. So if you're you know,
Speaker 1: worried about not having coverage, if you're worried about their
Speaker 1: tagline is fine, sell coverage in the wilderness. Um. So
Speaker 1: if you're worried as a as a woman sometimes you
Speaker 1: know you do worry about those things. Um. And if
Speaker 1: you're or if you're worried about you know, hey, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna you know, come out of
Speaker 1: this live if they're bears or if they're whatever any
Speaker 1: kind of safety concern. Um, this app is for you.
Speaker 1: So it's a called It's at Karen me dot com.
Speaker 1: And it's all about saying safe. So before you get
Speaker 1: out of coverage, so before you like go um onto
Speaker 1: the trail. Uh, then you tell it where you're going,
Speaker 1: you UM tell it where who your safety contacts are.
Speaker 1: So you set up safety contacts. And what it does
Speaker 1: is it sends UM them an alert to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm going out on this trail, and then when you
Speaker 1: get back, it will send them an alert that you've
Speaker 1: gotten back. So if you go for you know, if
Speaker 1: your friends know that you've that you typically go out
Speaker 1: for an hour or for four hours or whatever the
Speaker 1: time period is, they would know that if they don't
Speaker 1: hear back from the app in six hours, there's probably
Speaker 1: something wrong. Let's send a search party out for you. UM.
Speaker 1: So it's it's all about, you know, just making sure
Speaker 1: that you have um A that that you're not going
Speaker 1: to be left out there to die. Yeah, you have that,
Speaker 1: you have a that you have a safety net there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is definitely something I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I think safety net is probably a less dire and
Speaker 1: less I mean, you know, it's it's all on the marketing. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now I agree that that's an excellent app and that
Speaker 1: anything that takes the work away from the stuff that
Speaker 1: you you should do in order to be safe is great,
Speaker 1: because I worry. I agree entirely that that it's the
Speaker 1: responsible and safe thing to do to alert people when
Speaker 1: you're gonna go on a hike, especially if it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a long hike and you know you're not gonna
Speaker 1: necessarily have that cell phone coverage. Let's say that, um like,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to go hiking in Appalachia, then there
Speaker 1: are plenty of places where I am not gonna have
Speaker 1: any signal whatsoever. I'm gonna be too far away from
Speaker 1: any cell towers, and there's some gorgeous sights to see there.
Speaker 1: But you should let people know that you're going and that,
Speaker 1: you know, give them a general idea of when you
Speaker 1: would be checking back in, and using an app like
Speaker 1: this would make it a lot more automated. I think
Speaker 1: that removes a barrier that some people see or or anticipate,
Speaker 1: right because yeah, they're like, well I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: or they're or they're like, I would go on a hike,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna have to call people, and then
Speaker 1: I've gotta I gotta have this weird awkward conversation where
Speaker 1: I'm saying, listen, I'm fine, and I'm sure I will
Speaker 1: be fine, but if I'm not fine, I definitely want
Speaker 1: you to come look for me. Right, Like, that's that's
Speaker 1: a weird thing. But if you have an all automated
Speaker 1: and set up where it's just part of a routine
Speaker 1: experience of you going to do this hike, it removes
Speaker 1: that barrier. You have removed that awkward interaction. And a
Speaker 1: real life example of that is my sister. She has
Speaker 1: a guide business. She takes backpackers beginners out onto the
Speaker 1: trails and takes them on their first or second or
Speaker 1: third you know, backpacking experience, and uh, it's a wonderful
Speaker 1: thing that she does. But like I'll get an email
Speaker 1: from her, a text from her, and she she does
Speaker 1: this every time she goes out on a trip. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're heading out to the Appalachian Trails and we'll be
Speaker 1: back in three days. You know, no, no, no text
Speaker 1: coverage or whatever. And so you know, we get we
Speaker 1: get that manual process from her every time she goes
Speaker 1: out on a hike, and then that's a great safety
Speaker 1: thing for her to do. But yeah, if she used
Speaker 1: that app not only does it do all of that
Speaker 1: from a safety perspective, but it actually tracks any coverage
Speaker 1: that you hit while you're out. So if you if
Speaker 1: you you would have to leave it on in this case,
Speaker 1: but it would track where you're picking coverage up. And
Speaker 1: it fleshes out this system again crowdsourcing, uh and tracks
Speaker 1: tracks you, but it also tracks where that coverage is
Speaker 1: going to be for the next person who goes out
Speaker 1: on that trail. Okay, so if your if your pathway
Speaker 1: does like pass by say a community, there's some cell
Speaker 1: tower service, then you're you're moving in and out of
Speaker 1: the coverage area. It actually tracks that in the app itself.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. I like, I like this idea a
Speaker 1: lot um. You know, not just the technology that inspires
Speaker 1: us to get out there, but the technology that says, hey,
Speaker 1: we understand like for people who maybe this is a
Speaker 1: new thing and you want to have the experience, but
Speaker 1: it also can be a little intimidating. Let us take
Speaker 1: some of that anxiety away and we'll handle that and
Speaker 1: you don't need to worry about that so much that
Speaker 1: you can concentrate on enjoying your time when you are
Speaker 1: out there going through the different pathways. That's awesome totally. So, UM,
Speaker 1: next up is a nighttime app. Uh, it's not all
Speaker 1: about the daytime. Uh, this one, this one I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not in astronomy geek, but I just enjoy looking
Speaker 1: up at the nights nighttime sky and just getting lost
Speaker 1: in it. But there are lots of astronomy geeks out there,
Speaker 1: So this particular one is recommended by my UM, one
Speaker 1: of my teammates, who is a total astronomy geek. He's
Speaker 1: been through all of the apps UM out there that
Speaker 1: kind of track the night sky and show you what's
Speaker 1: out there. UM. And he says that Sky Safari five
Speaker 1: pro is the best out on the market. UM. Now,
Speaker 1: because it's a pro, it's forty dollars, So you have
Speaker 1: to really be an astronomy geek to really want this one. However,
Speaker 1: the version three is to nine. It's an older version,
Speaker 1: but it's still very good, he says. So. UM, basically
Speaker 1: it you know, you pointed up at the sky and
Speaker 1: it shows you where all the constellations are. UM. It
Speaker 1: has a red light display option to preserve the night sky,
Speaker 1: so you're not like looking at this like bright screen. UM.
Speaker 1: And then he uses the accelerometer, so you can basically
Speaker 1: just wave the device around and the display a match
Speaker 1: is the part of the sky that you're looking at,
Speaker 1: so it really kind of tracks everything and shows you. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's really detailed. Um I don't even know constellation names,
Speaker 1: like I'm terrible at that. You like, like I can
Speaker 1: pick out Oriyan. That's easy, right, Oriyan is? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't even think I can pick out a ran
Speaker 1: like I know THET big and a little dipper Luria.
Speaker 1: I'll show you, o Ryan, It's easy, it's easily. All
Speaker 1: you have to do is look for the belt and
Speaker 1: once you find the belt, you can see the head
Speaker 1: and shoulders and then you know where the club is.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's simple. It's simple. But but but beyond that,
Speaker 1: like beyond Oriyan and the big dipper and the little dipper,
Speaker 1: then I'm at That's where I've hit my limit. And
Speaker 1: partly it's because I also live in a city. You know,
Speaker 1: I live in Atlanta, and we have a lot of
Speaker 1: light pollution in Atlanta. Um So, but this is the
Speaker 1: sort of app. I've used these kind of apps too,
Speaker 1: and I really like them because, for one thing, when
Speaker 1: you are not in those areas. When you're in an
Speaker 1: area where it's much darker and you're just looking up
Speaker 1: at the night sky, you're thinking. First you're thinking to yourself, wow,
Speaker 1: that's gorgeous, and then you're thinking, so in ancient times
Speaker 1: people made pictures of these and I'm trying, but uh,
Speaker 1: I have no idea how they were orienting everything, like
Speaker 1: what was what was a picture versus like what stars
Speaker 1: belong to this group versus another group? Holding up that
Speaker 1: that up and seeing the different UH designs there and
Speaker 1: seeing how they relate to one another. It's really cool
Speaker 1: and you can start to learn some really interesting things,
Speaker 1: especially if you follow space news. Right. So let's say,
Speaker 1: let's say you've gone out there. You're outside, it's dark,
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, you can see the night sky, and you think,
Speaker 1: where is Proximus Centauri. I may not be able to
Speaker 1: see it because it's a red dwarf star, so the
Speaker 1: light is very dim, but I can at least find
Speaker 1: Alpha Centauri, and I know Proximus Centauri is next to it,
Speaker 1: and I know that Proximu B is the newest exoplanet
Speaker 1: identified to be within the Goldilock Zone, and it is
Speaker 1: only four point two two light years away. You sound
Speaker 1: like you know quite a bit. I did an episode
Speaker 1: about Proxima B. But but it's it's because that that's
Speaker 1: such cool news to sit there and think, this is
Speaker 1: a planet, potentially a planet within the habitable zone of
Speaker 1: its host star. It is the closest one we have
Speaker 1: identified so far. It is about as close. It's as
Speaker 1: close as it could be, because Proxima B is the
Speaker 1: closest star to Earth apart from the Sun. The Sun
Speaker 1: is obviously the closest one, but then the next one's
Speaker 1: Proxima B, and so I you could not get any
Speaker 1: closer than that four point two light years away because
Speaker 1: we don't have any other stars near us. So you
Speaker 1: think you could hold the phone up and see where
Speaker 1: it is in the sky, and you could sit there
Speaker 1: and say, around that area is a planet that may
Speaker 1: not be that different from the one I'm on right now,
Speaker 1: and it gives you a total change in your perspective.
Speaker 1: It's not just news that you've heard about right now.
Speaker 1: It's a thing that you can look up at the
Speaker 1: sky and you say, that's where it is. There's something
Speaker 1: really powerful about that. Yeah, there is. And this this
Speaker 1: particular app also tracks satellites in addition to stars. Um,
Speaker 1: so there's I don't know if you've ever seen a
Speaker 1: satellite go through it's it's kind of hard to tell
Speaker 1: the difference sometimes, but like that that gives you a
Speaker 1: whole different perspective as well. Yeah, like that's a satellite
Speaker 1: up there. You know when the Internet or the International
Speaker 1: Space Station is passing overhead, and you know that's there
Speaker 1: are people on that right, That's that's kind of incredible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love those kind of apps because, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's I also, while I'm an enthusiast, I love
Speaker 1: to read about space news, I love to talk about
Speaker 1: space news. If you sat me down in like a
Speaker 1: planetarium or we were outside in a very dark, uh landscape,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to identify stars to Like I
Speaker 1: could point out to you which one is obviously venus,
Speaker 1: I could point out where I could point. I could
Speaker 1: probably point out Polaris uh, and then beyond that and
Speaker 1: you know, if the sun's out then I can point
Speaker 1: at that one. But apart from those I started, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can handle that. My ability drops
Speaker 1: off pretty steeply after that. So the nice thing is
Speaker 1: these apps. These are the kind of apps where it's
Speaker 1: like having a scientist with you, right, It's like having
Speaker 1: an expert in that field right there with you. This
Speaker 1: is the sort of stuff that we all dream the
Speaker 1: Internet would give us back when it was first becoming
Speaker 1: a public utility, right, the idea that we would have
Speaker 1: access to that knowledge. Yeah, and I mean both both
Speaker 1: you and Ilia. We the reason we do what we do,
Speaker 1: in part at least is because we have this deep
Speaker 1: sense of curiosity and we want to discover. So that
Speaker 1: is I mean all of these gadgets and apps fall
Speaker 1: into that, but that's really where the power is for me,
Speaker 1: for something like this, for sure. So um, that's that one.
Speaker 1: Now we move on to a gadget that, yes, you
Speaker 1: could take your your laptop with you and power it
Speaker 1: on the go. So we all have battery pack I'm sure,
Speaker 1: um you know portable battery that we charge our phones
Speaker 1: on the go. But I have have tested all of
Speaker 1: them on the market. There there haven't been many, um
Speaker 1: over the years that will allow you to charge your
Speaker 1: computer on the go. Um. And so it's just they
Speaker 1: haven't had you know, had hasn't been able to be
Speaker 1: condensed into you know, that little piece of equipment. UM
Speaker 1: so Omnicharge was an indie go go project that that
Speaker 1: came out recently and they're about to relaunch into UM
Speaker 1: two selling on the website. Uh. And it's been a
Speaker 1: wonderful one that I've enjoyed using. Now. They had two
Speaker 1: different versions, smaller one for like MacBook airs or smaller computers. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then if you have a larger computer, like a
Speaker 1: pro And sorry, I'm a Matt girl, so I think
Speaker 1: of the world in terms of Mac computers. It's thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure some people will um. But yeah, So, like
Speaker 1: they have two different versions. So the more power your
Speaker 1: computer draws, obviously, the bigger device you need. But um,
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful device because you have it. Um you
Speaker 1: have two USB ports. Uh, you have a you know,
Speaker 1: an actual plug for your computer, so you don't have
Speaker 1: to take an adapter. You just take the regular power
Speaker 1: cable that you that you use to charge your your
Speaker 1: laptop and you take it out. So like, I'll take
Speaker 1: it out on a hike to just sit and if
Speaker 1: I have to get some work done, why not do
Speaker 1: it in the middle of nature? Is my is my
Speaker 1: at least that's that's fantastic. Yeah, I uh as as
Speaker 1: someone who has attended c E S numerous times, the
Speaker 1: battery pack is an absolute necessity because you are I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're covering the show, you're just going from booth
Speaker 1: to booth to booth. You have no time to sit
Speaker 1: down and plug anything into anything else that's not on
Speaker 1: your person. Uh So, so even though that doesn't quite
Speaker 1: fall into the category of going out and exploring your world,
Speaker 1: it is something that I will definitely look into just
Speaker 1: to preserve my what little sanity I have. By the
Speaker 1: end of c E S. I just I just got
Speaker 1: confirmation that yes, indeed, this will be the ninth time
Speaker 1: I go to c ES this coming year. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun because I'm going with a crew that went
Speaker 1: for the first time last year. They had never been
Speaker 1: before they went last year. Yeah, so it means it's
Speaker 1: kind of like if you were to go to Disneyland
Speaker 1: with a kid and you see that you're you. You
Speaker 1: get to experience some of the joy of discovery because
Speaker 1: to you, you're like, I've done this so many times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's right now, it's c C T C A is
Speaker 1: the one that holds, is the one that holds it,
Speaker 1: but it's officially CS now. It used to be the
Speaker 1: Consumer Electronics Show, but now it's c e S and
Speaker 1: it doesn't stand for anything. Okay, then it's still SOUND
Speaker 1: stands for a Consumer Electronic Show. Yes, in our hearts,
Speaker 1: in our hearts, but yeah, this is great. So I
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people where I'm sure I'm surprised
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about yet, but I do have separation
Speaker 1: anxiety from my gadgets. Um, even when I'm going on
Speaker 1: a trip where I'm trying very hard to kind of
Speaker 1: not have that all around me. Uh, sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: do so well doing that. Like I I turns out
Speaker 1: I snuck a laptop into my my carry on that
Speaker 1: my wife saw when I had to take it out
Speaker 1: at security or something. I've been I've known to do
Speaker 1: that on occasion. So being able to charge on the go,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's uh, sometimes it's just necessary.
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean maybe you maybe you're going
Speaker 1: on a camping trip and you want to uh write
Speaker 1: up your experience and it's just easier. It's easier to
Speaker 1: do that on a computer than it is on a phone,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it is, Yeah, you might be
Speaker 1: vlogging or something, but you need to type. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: just need to type. It's okay, we don't again, we
Speaker 1: don't judge. I mean, this is just this is really
Speaker 1: we're just enabling you at this point. That's so true. Sorry, Now,
Speaker 1: do we have time for a bonus? Let's please? I
Speaker 1: you you hinted at this when I first called you
Speaker 1: up that you had a bonus. I am dying to
Speaker 1: find out what it is. Okay, So the bonus I
Speaker 1: have for you is completely the opposite of taking our
Speaker 1: technology on the go, and it's if you just have
Speaker 1: too much technology, then you can get a detox tour. Um.
Speaker 1: There's there's there are these detox um digital detox tours
Speaker 1: or resorts or campgrounds like there. There apparently are a
Speaker 1: few of them where you can pay to sign an
Speaker 1: agreement that you are not going to touch your gadgets,
Speaker 1: that you are not going to get on WiFi, that
Speaker 1: you are not going to do anything digital. You are
Speaker 1: just going to live in the world that surround you. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that exists if you have any interest in that, if
Speaker 1: you just had too much of it. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: detox is the perfect name for it, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I really do suffer from withdrawal when I get into
Speaker 1: a situation like I've gone on several cruises with my wife,
Speaker 1: and we love going on cruises, but you know, one
Speaker 1: of the things about cruises is that eventually you get
Speaker 1: so far away from the sure that you no longer
Speaker 1: have any connectivity and and by by design, connecting to
Speaker 1: any kind of WiFi aboard the ship is prohibitively expensive
Speaker 1: unless you want to pay for another cruise while you're
Speaker 1: on your cruise. So so you get to it goes.
Speaker 1: It's the same every time, Lauria, same every time. You
Speaker 1: would laugh at the pathos that I display where you know,
Speaker 1: I sit there and I started getting a little auntsie,
Speaker 1: and my wife's just like, just calm down, it's fine.
Speaker 1: He's like, but but I'm thinking funny things and I
Speaker 1: can't tweet them. And she said, no, it's first of all,
Speaker 1: no one thinks you're funny. It's okay. She's she's good,
Speaker 1: good to have grounding. Yeah, No, she she's awesome. She
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. I I joke a lot about my wife,
Speaker 1: but she she's actually incredibly supportive. Otherwise I never would
Speaker 1: have made it as far as I have, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of those experiences. And then once
Speaker 1: you get past that that initial wall where you have
Speaker 1: this feeling like I need to have to distractions around me,
Speaker 1: I need to have a way to express things to
Speaker 1: a larger audience, or I need to be able to
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Once you get past that initial uh, well,
Speaker 1: which is different for everybody, right, some of us, like me,
Speaker 1: I'm so in that world all the time. It takes
Speaker 1: me a little longer to get through it than some
Speaker 1: other people. But once you do, you really start paying
Speaker 1: attention more to the people around you, to the experiences
Speaker 1: you're having, and you can really kind of just have
Speaker 1: the moment right to to to experience the present as
Speaker 1: opposed to living through it through your technology. I also
Speaker 1: think of it in ways like, um, I'm sure this
Speaker 1: has happened to you, where you've gone to some sort
Speaker 1: of public event like a concert or something, and you
Speaker 1: just see a sea of phones being held up and
Speaker 1: people are looking looking at what is happening through the
Speaker 1: lens of their phone rather than just having the moment
Speaker 1: to experience it right then and there. And I get
Speaker 1: it that you want to preserve that I understand that desire,
Speaker 1: but it does end up meaning that you're paying more
Speaker 1: attention to a representation of what is happening as opposed
Speaker 1: to what is happening well, and I experienced that all
Speaker 1: the time because of what I do. I do a
Speaker 1: daily tech show, you know, tech and the lifestyle show,
Speaker 1: and I am constantly recording my experience as for my audience,
Speaker 1: or I'm I do. I do two different live streams
Speaker 1: every single day, plus I do on the go live streams,
Speaker 1: So I'm like constantly live, I'm constantly recording, I'm constantly sharing,
Speaker 1: and so I've done that for eleven years, and You're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Like sometimes I will sit there and think
Speaker 1: I Am not even looking at the thing in front
Speaker 1: of me, like um virgencyeo, UM Branson, thank you Richard Branson.
Speaker 1: As soon as you said, I'm like, uh, well, technically,
Speaker 1: technically Branson's the founder. The current CEO is John Bayliss.
Speaker 1: Not my sorry, that was my back. I was the
Speaker 1: one who gave you the wrong name. I was talking
Speaker 1: about Richard Brandon. Okay, So like Richard Branson standing right
Speaker 1: in front of him, I'm not even looking at him.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my phone. Or my camera I private
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson concert. I'm looking at my camera. Wait this,
Speaker 1: I experienced such amazing things in this world, and you know,
Speaker 1: I obviously want to share it, but like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming, uh, and I think I just need to
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I just need to enjoy instead of trying
Speaker 1: to We have to be fair though we are in
Speaker 1: a we're in a position where, you know, not it's
Speaker 1: not just that we have the passion for it, which
Speaker 1: is clearly a big part of it, but also we
Speaker 1: have we we have created an obligation on the part
Speaker 1: of our audiences. Right. So, so there's not that we're
Speaker 1: blaming you audience. We love you, we appreciate that you're there.
Speaker 1: You are the reason we are able to do the
Speaker 1: things we do, and if you weren't there then we
Speaker 1: would be very sad. So we're not blaming me. We're
Speaker 1: just saying that we do feel obligated to you, and
Speaker 1: so sometimes that means that we could use that as
Speaker 1: an excuse to do behaviors that perhaps weren't the most
Speaker 1: healthy at times. I've heard about a lot of restaurants
Speaker 1: that have taken on the task of Uh, there's some
Speaker 1: like I think there's a couple in Atlanta actually where
Speaker 1: if you go to the restaurant, they say, all right, uh,
Speaker 1: you either surrender you surrender your phone when you come in,
Speaker 1: or they do the thing where they say, like, the
Speaker 1: first person to take out their phone is the one
Speaker 1: who pays the bill. So if you if you take
Speaker 1: out your phone, and I sit there and I think, man,
Speaker 1: I would want to go to dinner with like Sarah Lane,
Speaker 1: Sarah Lane. If I could go to dinner with Sarah Lane,
Speaker 1: I would never pay for food again. Um, because and
Speaker 1: I love Sarah. Sarah is brilliant. She is a wonderful person.
Speaker 1: But but I don't think I've ever seen her like
Speaker 1: more than a foot away from some sort of device
Speaker 1: where she's checking on something. And she's a busy woman.
Speaker 1: I get it, like she's doing business like no other.
Speaker 1: But but I would just be like I could stand
Speaker 1: a chance against Sarah some of these folks, maybe Veronica
Speaker 1: belmont To, I could probably it might be a little close,
Speaker 1: because she's got a power to stay away. She's stubborn
Speaker 1: right like she's I love Veronica too. That's not a judgment,
Speaker 1: that's that's me admiring Veronica. So yeah, there there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people in our space, in in the tech space,
Speaker 1: where every time I've gone to a dinner with them,
Speaker 1: the first thing that happens is everyone sits down. The
Speaker 1: second thing that happens is everyone's phone hits the table,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's how it works. So getting away from
Speaker 1: that once in a while does have a real um
Speaker 1: appeal to it. And I mean there's it would depend
Speaker 1: for me where these digital detox tours would be taking place.
Speaker 1: Like if you're telling me, so there's one in Fiji,
Speaker 1: I'm like, sign me up. I will go right now.
Speaker 1: I will. I will stay on the beach, I will
Speaker 1: not have any electronics near me, and I will just
Speaker 1: experience paradise. Uh. But but if you were like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's in Um. I don't want to pick any place
Speaker 1: where someone's going to get mad at me. But maybe
Speaker 1: it's on the ice cap in Greenland, I'm like, well
Speaker 1: that's first of all, I probably wouldn't have any access anyway,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure I would exhaust all forms of
Speaker 1: entertainment within thirty seconds unless I went into the secret
Speaker 1: military base under the ice cap in Greenland, which is crazy,
Speaker 1: but I talked about that in a different episodes. So,
Speaker 1: Louria Petrucci, thank you so much for joining me and
Speaker 1: and and this is great. I've been wanting to have
Speaker 1: you on the show for years. It's a real thrill
Speaker 1: for me. I'm I'm being perfectly honest with that. Please look,
Speaker 1: it's a thrill for me as well than let my
Speaker 1: listeners know where they can find all your stuff because
Speaker 1: you do so much. Oh I know? Um so, uh
Speaker 1: are My techn lifestyle show is geeks Life dot com
Speaker 1: and we do a daily live stream where we geek
Speaker 1: out about different things every single week day. Uh So
Speaker 1: that's at ten am Pacific every week day. That's a
Speaker 1: geeks Live dot com slash live or you can get
Speaker 1: it on Facebook dot com, slash geeks life net, or
Speaker 1: you can get it on YouTube. Um. But so geeks
Speaker 1: Life dot live is the easiest place just because it's
Speaker 1: right there. Um. But we also help people start and
Speaker 1: grow their live streaming shows. So if that's something you're
Speaker 1: interested in, you can go to live Streaming pros dot com.
Speaker 1: But yeah, tech and Lifestyle is is the daily show there.
Speaker 1: I also have a daily show for live Streaming pros.
Speaker 1: Um I'm out there constantly so you can find me.
Speaker 1: Nice thing is also that you have an incredible backlog
Speaker 1: of tons of different material out there so people can
Speaker 1: can see. Like, like I said, you've been playing an
Speaker 1: important role in uh talking about just tech in general.
Speaker 1: You've had some great conversations about women in tech. You've
Speaker 1: talked about the entrepreneur aspect of your job. These are
Speaker 1: all things that if you are out there and you're thinking,
Speaker 1: I would love to be able to chase my dream,
Speaker 1: but I just you know, there's so many obstacles in
Speaker 1: the way. Trust me, go and look up Luria and
Speaker 1: and learn from her. She's got some great, great knowledge
Speaker 1: to impart on all of you guys out there. And
Speaker 1: if you just love swell. I mean I've watched these videos, Luria.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've known you for for a few years,
Speaker 1: but you know, we were been pretty far off circles.
Speaker 1: We don't get to hang out very frequently. So so
Speaker 1: when I follow up and I look at your story,
Speaker 1: I'm just amazed it, uh that you you have continued
Speaker 1: to to have that ambition and that drive and still
Speaker 1: be a nice person. That's insane. Lauria so well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it if I didn't love people. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Yeah, my favorite thing about the
Speaker 1: job is getting to know people. It's great. I'm glad
Speaker 1: that there are people like you out there to balance
Speaker 1: out the missent thropes like me. That's really valuable. Loria.
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