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Speaker 1: Get in technology with tech Stuff from hastaff dot com.

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Speaker 1: Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. Today, ladies and gentlemen, I have a real

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Speaker 1: treat for you. I have Luria Petrucci on the line

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Speaker 1: with me. Luria is a friend of mine. We met

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Speaker 1: at c S I think for the first time many

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Speaker 1: years ago, and she If you don't know who Luria is,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to fix that right now because you need to.

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Speaker 1: She's an important voice in technology and has been for years.

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Speaker 1: She's a pioneer in the field of covering tech and

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Speaker 1: explaining its significance and how it affects us. And she's

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. She has done amazing things. Her story is phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: You need to go and research her. Luria, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Welcome, And I think you might have taken

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Speaker 1: it a little too are I don't know if anybody

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Speaker 1: can call me important. I think you are downplaying. You're

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Speaker 1: downplaying the role Loria. Let me let me put to

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Speaker 1: you this way. This is absolutely true. I'm not blowing smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not you know, flattering you. This is

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Speaker 1: absolutely the truth. Before I worked at how Stuff, works

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Speaker 1: dot Com. As I was getting into that, I was

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Speaker 1: following all sorts of text stories and there were there

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Speaker 1: were really only a couple of of outlets that I

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Speaker 1: regularly went to, and I would follow your work and

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Speaker 1: I followed c net. Those were the two so like

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Speaker 1: buzz out Loud, that group, that's who I followed, So

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Speaker 1: Tom Merritt, Molly Wood, Jason Howell, uh Veronica Belmont. Those

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Speaker 1: were the folks that were following over at c net

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Speaker 1: at the time. And then I was following you, and

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Speaker 1: that was before I had finally made it. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: you know what, the very first time I met you

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Speaker 1: may have been at a south By Southwest and it

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Speaker 1: just really impressed me because you were you just came

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Speaker 1: right up to me and chatting with me. And that's

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Speaker 1: when I was like, hey, I made it because because

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Speaker 1: I've got talking to me, and now I've got you

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Speaker 1: on the show. And and Luria, we we were chatting course,

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Speaker 1: and we were chatting before about you know, what would

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Speaker 1: we like to cover, and you you pitched an idea

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Speaker 1: to me, this idea of how technology can be a

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Speaker 1: tool for us to not shut the world off, which

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Speaker 1: is the way I think a lot of people portray tech, right,

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Speaker 1: they say that our personal gadgets have have made us

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Speaker 1: focus on the screens of our phones and ignore everything else.

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Speaker 1: But rather how there are certain types of technology, whether

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Speaker 1: it's actual gadgets or applications, that encourage us to go

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Speaker 1: out and explore the world, to be part of the world.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I think that's a really valuable narrative because

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Speaker 1: it's so in opposition to the accepted truth that if

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Speaker 1: you are into tech, you hide yourself away in the

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Speaker 1: basement and you surround yourself with all your gadgets and

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Speaker 1: you you don't have any interactions with the quote unquote

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Speaker 1: real world. And uh so we're going to explore that today.

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Speaker 1: And um yeah, And I think you know this comes

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Speaker 1: from my my recent obsession with trying to get out

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Speaker 1: sit behind my computer, I get involved in my tech.

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Speaker 1: I have for eleven years of doing tech shows online.

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Speaker 1: And I moved to the Pacific Northwest two years ago,

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Speaker 1: sorry a year ago, and um, I just became so like,

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Speaker 1: And I love the outdoors and I love to go

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Speaker 1: do the same with a weekly show about it. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just been it's been an obsession of mine because

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Speaker 1: I think we often do spend too much behind time

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Speaker 1: behind the computers. But you're right, like technology can be

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Speaker 1: something that allows us to do more out and about. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I one of my earliest episodes of tech stuff, UH.

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Speaker 1: We published it on January nineteen, two thousand nine, so

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Speaker 1: this wasn't even a full year of tech stuff yet.

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Speaker 1: were specifically looking at GEO cashing. It was actually called

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Speaker 1: because because we're past, we're past that peak, that that

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Speaker 1: This is a wonderful gadget that I that we've fallen

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Speaker 1: be a long hike and you know you're not gonna

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00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: necessarily have that cell phone coverage. Let's say that, um like,

430
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: if I wanted to go hiking in Appalachia, then there

431
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: are plenty of places where I am not gonna have

432
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 1: any signal whatsoever. I'm gonna be too far away from

433
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: any cell towers, and there's some gorgeous sights to see there.

434
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: But you should let people know that you're going and that,

435
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, give them a general idea of when you

436
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: would be checking back in, and using an app like

437
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: this would make it a lot more automated. I think

438
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: that removes a barrier that some people see or or anticipate,

439
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: right because yeah, they're like, well I don't know about that,

440
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: or they're or they're like, I would go on a hike,

441
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna have to call people, and then

442
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: I've gotta I gotta have this weird awkward conversation where

443
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, listen, I'm fine, and I'm sure I will

444
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: be fine, but if I'm not fine, I definitely want

445
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: you to come look for me. Right, Like, that's that's

446
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: a weird thing. But if you have an all automated

447
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: and set up where it's just part of a routine

448
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: experience of you going to do this hike, it removes

449
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: that barrier. You have removed that awkward interaction. And a

450
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: real life example of that is my sister. She has

451
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: a guide business. She takes backpackers beginners out onto the

452
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: trails and takes them on their first or second or

453
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: third you know, backpacking experience, and uh, it's a wonderful

454
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,479
Speaker 1: thing that she does. But like I'll get an email

455
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: from her, a text from her, and she she does

456
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: this every time she goes out on a trip. Hey,

457
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: we're heading out to the Appalachian Trails and we'll be

458
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: back in three days. You know, no, no, no text

459
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: coverage or whatever. And so you know, we get we

460
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: get that manual process from her every time she goes

461
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: out on a hike, and then that's a great safety

462
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: thing for her to do. But yeah, if she used

463
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: that app not only does it do all of that

464
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: from a safety perspective, but it actually tracks any coverage

465
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 1: that you hit while you're out. So if you if

466
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: you you would have to leave it on in this case,

467
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: but it would track where you're picking coverage up. And

468
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: it fleshes out this system again crowdsourcing, uh and tracks

469
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: tracks you, but it also tracks where that coverage is

470
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: going to be for the next person who goes out

471
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: on that trail. Okay, so if your if your pathway

472
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: does like pass by say a community, there's some cell

473
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: tower service, then you're you're moving in and out of

474
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: the coverage area. It actually tracks that in the app itself.

475
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. I like, I like this idea a

476
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: lot um. You know, not just the technology that inspires

477
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: us to get out there, but the technology that says, hey,

478
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: we understand like for people who maybe this is a

479
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: new thing and you want to have the experience, but

480
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: it also can be a little intimidating. Let us take

481
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: some of that anxiety away and we'll handle that and

482
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: you don't need to worry about that so much that

483
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: you can concentrate on enjoying your time when you are

484
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: out there going through the different pathways. That's awesome totally. So, UM,

485
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: next up is a nighttime app. Uh, it's not all

486
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: about the daytime. Uh, this one, this one I don't.

487
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm not in astronomy geek, but I just enjoy looking

488
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: up at the nights nighttime sky and just getting lost

489
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: in it. But there are lots of astronomy geeks out there,

490
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: So this particular one is recommended by my UM, one

491
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: of my teammates, who is a total astronomy geek. He's

492
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: been through all of the apps UM out there that

493
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: kind of track the night sky and show you what's

494
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: out there. UM. And he says that Sky Safari five

495
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: pro is the best out on the market. UM. Now,

496
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: because it's a pro, it's forty dollars, So you have

497
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: to really be an astronomy geek to really want this one. However,

498
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: the version three is to nine. It's an older version,

499
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: but it's still very good, he says. So. UM, basically

500
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: it you know, you pointed up at the sky and

501
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: it shows you where all the constellations are. UM. It

502
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: has a red light display option to preserve the night sky,

503
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:53,719
Speaker 1: so you're not like looking at this like bright screen. UM.

504
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: And then he uses the accelerometer, so you can basically

505
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: just wave the device around and the display a match

506
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: is the part of the sky that you're looking at,

507
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: so it really kind of tracks everything and shows you. Uh,

508
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: it's it's really detailed. Um I don't even know constellation names,

509
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: like I'm terrible at that. You like, like I can

510
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: pick out Oriyan. That's easy, right, Oriyan is? I don't.

511
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't even think I can pick out a ran

512
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: like I know THET big and a little dipper Luria.

513
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I'll show you, o Ryan, It's easy, it's easily. All

514
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: you have to do is look for the belt and

515
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: once you find the belt, you can see the head

516
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: and shoulders and then you know where the club is.

517
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: It's it's it's simple. It's simple. But but but beyond that,

518
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: like beyond Oriyan and the big dipper and the little dipper,

519
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: then I'm at That's where I've hit my limit. And

520
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: partly it's because I also live in a city. You know,

521
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: I live in Atlanta, and we have a lot of

522
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: light pollution in Atlanta. Um So, but this is the

523
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: sort of app. I've used these kind of apps too,

524
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: and I really like them because, for one thing, when

525
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: you are not in those areas. When you're in an

526
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: area where it's much darker and you're just looking up

527
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: at the night sky, you're thinking. First you're thinking to yourself, wow,

528
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: that's gorgeous, and then you're thinking, so in ancient times

529
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: people made pictures of these and I'm trying, but uh,

530
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I have no idea how they were orienting everything, like

531
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: what was what was a picture versus like what stars

532
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: belong to this group versus another group? Holding up that

533
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: that up and seeing the different UH designs there and

534
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: seeing how they relate to one another. It's really cool

535
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: and you can start to learn some really interesting things,

536
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: especially if you follow space news. Right. So let's say,

537
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: let's say you've gone out there. You're outside, it's dark,

538
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, you can see the night sky, and you think,

539
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: where is Proximus Centauri. I may not be able to

540
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: see it because it's a red dwarf star, so the

541
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: light is very dim, but I can at least find

542
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Alpha Centauri, and I know Proximus Centauri is next to it,

543
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: and I know that Proximu B is the newest exoplanet

544
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: identified to be within the Goldilock Zone, and it is

545
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: only four point two two light years away. You sound

546
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: like you know quite a bit. I did an episode

547
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: about Proxima B. But but it's it's because that that's

548
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: such cool news to sit there and think, this is

549
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: a planet, potentially a planet within the habitable zone of

550
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: its host star. It is the closest one we have

551
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: identified so far. It is about as close. It's as

552
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: close as it could be, because Proxima B is the

553
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: closest star to Earth apart from the Sun. The Sun

554
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: is obviously the closest one, but then the next one's

555
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: Proxima B, and so I you could not get any

556
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: closer than that four point two light years away because

557
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: we don't have any other stars near us. So you

558
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: think you could hold the phone up and see where

559
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: it is in the sky, and you could sit there

560
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: and say, around that area is a planet that may

561
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: not be that different from the one I'm on right now,

562
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: and it gives you a total change in your perspective.

563
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: It's not just news that you've heard about right now.

564
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: It's a thing that you can look up at the

565
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: sky and you say, that's where it is. There's something

566
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: really powerful about that. Yeah, there is. And this this

567
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: particular app also tracks satellites in addition to stars. Um,

568
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: so there's I don't know if you've ever seen a

569
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: satellite go through it's it's kind of hard to tell

570
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: the difference sometimes, but like that that gives you a

571
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: whole different perspective as well. Yeah, like that's a satellite

572
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: up there. You know when the Internet or the International

573
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Space Station is passing overhead, and you know that's there

574
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: are people on that right, That's that's kind of incredible. Yeah.

575
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: I love those kind of apps because, uh, you know,

576
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: it's it's I also, while I'm an enthusiast, I love

577
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: to read about space news, I love to talk about

578
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: space news. If you sat me down in like a

579
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: planetarium or we were outside in a very dark, uh landscape,

580
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to identify stars to Like I

581
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: could point out to you which one is obviously venus,

582
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: I could point out where I could point. I could

583
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: probably point out Polaris uh, and then beyond that and

584
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, if the sun's out then I can point

585
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: at that one. But apart from those I started, I

586
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: don't know if I can handle that. My ability drops

587
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: off pretty steeply after that. So the nice thing is

588
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: these apps. These are the kind of apps where it's

589
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: like having a scientist with you, right, It's like having

590
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: an expert in that field right there with you. This

591
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: is the sort of stuff that we all dream the

592
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: Internet would give us back when it was first becoming

593
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: a public utility, right, the idea that we would have

594
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: access to that knowledge. Yeah, and I mean both both

595
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: you and Ilia. We the reason we do what we do,

596
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: in part at least is because we have this deep

597
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: sense of curiosity and we want to discover. So that

598
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: is I mean all of these gadgets and apps fall

599
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: into that, but that's really where the power is for me,

600
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: for something like this, for sure. So um, that's that one.

601
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: Now we move on to a gadget that, yes, you

602
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: could take your your laptop with you and power it

603
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: on the go. So we all have battery pack I'm sure,

604
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: um you know portable battery that we charge our phones

605
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: on the go. But I have have tested all of

606
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: them on the market. There there haven't been many, um

607
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: over the years that will allow you to charge your

608
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: computer on the go. Um. And so it's just they

609
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: haven't had you know, had hasn't been able to be

610
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: condensed into you know, that little piece of equipment. UM

611
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: so Omnicharge was an indie go go project that that

612
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: came out recently and they're about to relaunch into UM

613
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: two selling on the website. Uh. And it's been a

614
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: wonderful one that I've enjoyed using. Now. They had two

615
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: different versions, smaller one for like MacBook airs or smaller computers. Uh.

616
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: And then if you have a larger computer, like a

617
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: pro And sorry, I'm a Matt girl, so I think

618
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: of the world in terms of Mac computers. It's thank you.

619
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure some people will um. But yeah, So, like

620
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: they have two different versions. So the more power your

621
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: computer draws, obviously, the bigger device you need. But um,

622
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful device because you have it. Um you

623
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: have two USB ports. Uh, you have a you know,

624
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: an actual plug for your computer, so you don't have

625
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: to take an adapter. You just take the regular power

626
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: cable that you that you use to charge your your

627
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: laptop and you take it out. So like, I'll take

628
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: it out on a hike to just sit and if

629
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: I have to get some work done, why not do

630
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: it in the middle of nature? Is my is my

631
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: at least that's that's fantastic. Yeah, I uh as as

632
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: someone who has attended c E S numerous times, the

633
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: battery pack is an absolute necessity because you are I mean,

634
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: if you're covering the show, you're just going from booth

635
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: to booth to booth. You have no time to sit

636
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: down and plug anything into anything else that's not on

637
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: your person. Uh So, so even though that doesn't quite

638
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: fall into the category of going out and exploring your world,

639
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: it is something that I will definitely look into just

640
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: to preserve my what little sanity I have. By the

641
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: end of c E S. I just I just got

642
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: confirmation that yes, indeed, this will be the ninth time

643
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: I go to c ES this coming year. So yeah, yeah,

644
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: it's fun because I'm going with a crew that went

645
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: for the first time last year. They had never been

646
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: before they went last year. Yeah, so it means it's

647
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of like if you were to go to Disneyland

648
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: with a kid and you see that you're you. You

649
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: get to experience some of the joy of discovery because

650
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: to you, you're like, I've done this so many times. Yeah,

651
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: it's right now, it's c C T C A is

652
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 1: the one that holds, is the one that holds it,

653
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: but it's officially CS now. It used to be the

654
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Consumer Electronics Show, but now it's c e S and

655
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't stand for anything. Okay, then it's still SOUND

656
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: stands for a Consumer Electronic Show. Yes, in our hearts,

657
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: in our hearts, but yeah, this is great. So I

658
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people where I'm sure I'm surprised

659
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about yet, but I do have separation

660
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: anxiety from my gadgets. Um, even when I'm going on

661
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: a trip where I'm trying very hard to kind of

662
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: not have that all around me. Uh, sometimes I don't

663
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: do so well doing that. Like I I turns out

664
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: I snuck a laptop into my my carry on that

665
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: my wife saw when I had to take it out

666
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: at security or something. I've been I've known to do

667
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: that on occasion. So being able to charge on the go,

668
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's uh, sometimes it's just necessary.

669
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean maybe you maybe you're going

670
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: on a camping trip and you want to uh write

671
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: up your experience and it's just easier. It's easier to

672
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: do that on a computer than it is on a phone,

673
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it is, Yeah, you might be

674
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: vlogging or something, but you need to type. Sometimes you

675
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: just need to type. It's okay, we don't again, we

676
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: don't judge. I mean, this is just this is really

677
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: we're just enabling you at this point. That's so true. Sorry, Now,

678
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: do we have time for a bonus? Let's please? I

679
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: you you hinted at this when I first called you

680
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: up that you had a bonus. I am dying to

681
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: find out what it is. Okay, So the bonus I

682
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: have for you is completely the opposite of taking our

683
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: technology on the go, and it's if you just have

684
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: too much technology, then you can get a detox tour. Um.

685
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: There's there's there are these detox um digital detox tours

686
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: or resorts or campgrounds like there. There apparently are a

687
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: few of them where you can pay to sign an

688
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: agreement that you are not going to touch your gadgets,

689
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: that you are not going to get on WiFi, that

690
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: you are not going to do anything digital. You are

691
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: just going to live in the world that surround you. So, uh,

692
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: that exists if you have any interest in that, if

693
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: you just had too much of it. Yeah, I think

694
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: detox is the perfect name for it, because I mean,

695
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: I really do suffer from withdrawal when I get into

696
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: a situation like I've gone on several cruises with my wife,

697
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: and we love going on cruises, but you know, one

698
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: of the things about cruises is that eventually you get

699
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: so far away from the sure that you no longer

700
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: have any connectivity and and by by design, connecting to

701
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: any kind of WiFi aboard the ship is prohibitively expensive

702
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: unless you want to pay for another cruise while you're

703
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: on your cruise. So so you get to it goes.

704
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: It's the same every time, Lauria, same every time. You

705
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: would laugh at the pathos that I display where you know,

706
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: I sit there and I started getting a little auntsie,

707
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: and my wife's just like, just calm down, it's fine.

708
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: He's like, but but I'm thinking funny things and I

709
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: can't tweet them. And she said, no, it's first of all,

710
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: no one thinks you're funny. It's okay. She's she's good,

711
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: good to have grounding. Yeah, No, she she's awesome. She

712
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. I I joke a lot about my wife,

713
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: but she she's actually incredibly supportive. Otherwise I never would

714
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: have made it as far as I have, but but yeah,

715
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of those experiences. And then once

716
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: you get past that that initial wall where you have

717
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: this feeling like I need to have to distractions around me,

718
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: I need to have a way to express things to

719
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: a larger audience, or I need to be able to

720
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: see what's going on. Once you get past that initial uh, well,

721
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: which is different for everybody, right, some of us, like me,

722
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm so in that world all the time. It takes

723
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: me a little longer to get through it than some

724
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: other people. But once you do, you really start paying

725
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: attention more to the people around you, to the experiences

726
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: you're having, and you can really kind of just have

727
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: the moment right to to to experience the present as

728
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: opposed to living through it through your technology. I also

729
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: think of it in ways like, um, I'm sure this

730
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: has happened to you, where you've gone to some sort

731
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: of public event like a concert or something, and you

732
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: just see a sea of phones being held up and

733
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: people are looking looking at what is happening through the

734
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: lens of their phone rather than just having the moment

735
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: to experience it right then and there. And I get

736
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: it that you want to preserve that I understand that desire,

737
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: but it does end up meaning that you're paying more

738
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: attention to a representation of what is happening as opposed

739
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: to what is happening well, and I experienced that all

740
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: the time because of what I do. I do a

741
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: daily tech show, you know, tech and the lifestyle show,

742
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: and I am constantly recording my experience as for my audience,

743
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: or I'm I do. I do two different live streams

744
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: every single day, plus I do on the go live streams,

745
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: So I'm like constantly live, I'm constantly recording, I'm constantly sharing,

746
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: and so I've done that for eleven years, and You're

747
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: absolutely right. Like sometimes I will sit there and think

748
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: I Am not even looking at the thing in front

749
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: of me, like um virgencyeo, UM Branson, thank you Richard Branson.

750
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: As soon as you said, I'm like, uh, well, technically,

751
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: technically Branson's the founder. The current CEO is John Bayliss.

752
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: Not my sorry, that was my back. I was the

753
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: one who gave you the wrong name. I was talking

754
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: about Richard Brandon. Okay, So like Richard Branson standing right

755
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: in front of him, I'm not even looking at him.

756
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my phone. Or my camera I private

757
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson concert. I'm looking at my camera. Wait this,

758
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: I experienced such amazing things in this world, and you know,

759
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: I obviously want to share it, but like sometimes it's

760
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming, uh, and I think I just need to

761
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I just need to enjoy instead of trying

762
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: to We have to be fair though we are in

763
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: a we're in a position where, you know, not it's

764
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: not just that we have the passion for it, which

765
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: is clearly a big part of it, but also we

766
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: have we we have created an obligation on the part

767
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: of our audiences. Right. So, so there's not that we're

768
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: blaming you audience. We love you, we appreciate that you're there.

769
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: You are the reason we are able to do the

770
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: things we do, and if you weren't there then we

771
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: would be very sad. So we're not blaming me. We're

772
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: just saying that we do feel obligated to you, and

773
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: so sometimes that means that we could use that as

774
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: an excuse to do behaviors that perhaps weren't the most

775
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: healthy at times. I've heard about a lot of restaurants

776
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: that have taken on the task of Uh, there's some

777
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: like I think there's a couple in Atlanta actually where

778
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: if you go to the restaurant, they say, all right, uh,

779
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: you either surrender you surrender your phone when you come in,

780
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: or they do the thing where they say, like, the

781
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: first person to take out their phone is the one

782
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: who pays the bill. So if you if you take

783
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: out your phone, and I sit there and I think, man,

784
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: I would want to go to dinner with like Sarah Lane,

785
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Sarah Lane. If I could go to dinner with Sarah Lane,

786
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: I would never pay for food again. Um, because and

787
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: I love Sarah. Sarah is brilliant. She is a wonderful person.

788
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: But but I don't think I've ever seen her like

789
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: more than a foot away from some sort of device

790
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: where she's checking on something. And she's a busy woman.

791
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: I get it, like she's doing business like no other.

792
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: But but I would just be like I could stand

793
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: a chance against Sarah some of these folks, maybe Veronica

794
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: belmont To, I could probably it might be a little close,

795
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: because she's got a power to stay away. She's stubborn

796
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: right like she's I love Veronica too. That's not a judgment,

797
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: that's that's me admiring Veronica. So yeah, there there's a

798
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: lot of people in our space, in in the tech space,

799
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: where every time I've gone to a dinner with them,

800
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the first thing that happens is everyone sits down. The

801
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: second thing that happens is everyone's phone hits the table,

802
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: Like that's that's how it works. So getting away from

803
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: that once in a while does have a real um

804
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: appeal to it. And I mean there's it would depend

805
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 1: for me where these digital detox tours would be taking place.

806
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: Like if you're telling me, so there's one in Fiji,

807
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, sign me up. I will go right now.

808
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: I will. I will stay on the beach, I will

809
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: not have any electronics near me, and I will just

810
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: experience paradise. Uh. But but if you were like, okay,

811
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: it's in Um. I don't want to pick any place

812
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: where someone's going to get mad at me. But maybe

813
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: it's on the ice cap in Greenland, I'm like, well

814
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: that's first of all, I probably wouldn't have any access anyway,

815
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure I would exhaust all forms of

816
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 1: entertainment within thirty seconds unless I went into the secret

817
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: military base under the ice cap in Greenland, which is crazy,

818
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: but I talked about that in a different episodes. So,

819
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: Louria Petrucci, thank you so much for joining me and

820
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: and and this is great. I've been wanting to have

821
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: you on the show for years. It's a real thrill

822
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: for me. I'm I'm being perfectly honest with that. Please look,

823
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: it's a thrill for me as well than let my

824
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: listeners know where they can find all your stuff because

825
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: you do so much. Oh I know? Um so, uh

826
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: are My techn lifestyle show is geeks Life dot com

827
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: and we do a daily live stream where we geek

828
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: out about different things every single week day. Uh So

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Speaker 1: that's at ten am Pacific every week day. That's a

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00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: geeks Live dot com slash live or you can get

831
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: it on Facebook dot com, slash geeks life net, or

832
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: you can get it on YouTube. Um. But so geeks

833
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: Life dot live is the easiest place just because it's

834
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: right there. Um. But we also help people start and

835
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: grow their live streaming shows. So if that's something you're

836
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: interested in, you can go to live Streaming pros dot com.

837
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, tech and Lifestyle is is the daily show there.

838
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I also have a daily show for live Streaming pros.

839
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Um I'm out there constantly so you can find me.

840
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: Nice thing is also that you have an incredible backlog

841
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: of tons of different material out there so people can

842
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: can see. Like, like I said, you've been playing an

843
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: important role in uh talking about just tech in general.

844
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: You've had some great conversations about women in tech. You've

845
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: talked about the entrepreneur aspect of your job. These are

846
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: all things that if you are out there and you're thinking,

847
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: I would love to be able to chase my dream,

848
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: but I just you know, there's so many obstacles in

849
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 1: the way. Trust me, go and look up Luria and

850
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Speaker 1: and learn from her. She's got some great, great knowledge

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