1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to the latest edition of 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: the Falcons in Focus podcast presented by Ticketmaster. I'm Scott Bear. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: That's Tarren Walk, man of the hour. Falcons wide receiver 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Van Jefferson is joining us. And before we get into 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: what are some pretty fun and interesting stories with Van, 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: we have to tell you that as the official ticket 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: marketplace of the Falcons and the NFL, Ticketmaster has a 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: wide selection of tickets available for every game. Whether you're 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: cheering on the Falcons at a hole or away, Ticketmaster 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: has you covered. Download the Ticketmaster app or find tickets 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: today at ticketmaster dot com. Slash Falcons. That's ticketmaster dot 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: com slash Falcons. Now, Van, we're going to start by 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: going back in time just a little bit. End of 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Good day for you. Yeah, there's a 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: shot I think NFL Films found it or something like that. 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: But you're celebrating a victory, the Rams win the Super 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Bowl in Los Angeles, huge moment professionally, and then someone 18 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: walks up to you with your kids in front of you, 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, and delivers some news. What news did 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: they deliver to. 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: You in that moment? 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife was having a baby and right then 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: and there, and so you know, she didn't want to 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: tell me, you know, so I just played the game, 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: and you know, after the game, of course, you know, 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: I'm just full filled with excitement, you know, just went 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. But then you know, the lady 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 3: comes out, know heere, I said, you're having a baby. 29 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: And it's just like the ultimate like best feeling ever, 30 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: you know, winning Super Bowl and having a baby. 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: So it was cool. 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was just I was just like all 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: over the place. 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: I was just like all over. 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: The place, just trying to keep my kids calm and 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: me stay calm too as well. But it was a 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: good moment for sure. 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: So was was that the do date? Did you think 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: that it might have been a yeah? 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, my wife kind of predicted it. She 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: was kind of like, he's gonna come on the super Bowl. 42 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: I was like, nah, he might need to come on 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: the day after. But you know, ultimately he came on 44 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, and you know, it was like a 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: lot of commotion. I had to get out of there 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: really quick, and I was like stuck in traffic the 47 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: whole time. But I was stuck in traffic, so I 48 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: didn't I got there. He was already born. But you know, 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: it's cool. 50 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: It was good. It was a good throw to see him. 51 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's an interview you you and your wife 52 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: were on the Today Show, right kind of and she 53 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: was it was it's also her story, right, but to 54 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: hear this that she's she's in labor during the games, 55 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to tell you, you know, and then 56 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: you get the news and you you know, rush over seeing. 57 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of a lucky coincidence that you were playing 58 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: for the Rams and the Super Bowl was in Los Angeles, right, 59 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: so it was a little. 60 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: More comfortable exactly. 61 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: And I mean the week before, you know, we played 62 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and like that game was crazy, 63 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: you know, it was just going back and forth, and 64 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: I was like, man, you know Tom Brady fourth quarter, 65 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: Modi came back and len It Finnet end up scoring. 66 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: So it was just like, oh, what's going on? What's 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: going to happen? And then last second played Cooper cup 68 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: catches a crazy catching them back in it, you know, 69 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 3: to get us and feel ranging and then it was 70 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: just crazy. And then the next week we played the 71 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: forty nine ers, end up winning and going to the 72 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: super Bowl and the super Bowl being in LA. It 73 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: was just it all just played out perfectly. It's like 74 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: a movie. And you know, to have my son on 75 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 3: the day, especially to win the super Bowl, it was 76 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: just an awesome feeling. 77 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: I love that your wife didn't want to tell you. Yeah, 78 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: like nobody informed you midgate. Hey your child is on 79 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: is it her her way? 80 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 5: Did you know the gender ahead of time? 81 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: I did. I did, Yeah, so I knew it was 82 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: it was a boy the whole time. 83 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: And you know, of course me being a dad, and 84 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: you know, I was excited to have a boy. But 85 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: but it was it was a good moment, you know, 86 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: for all, for everybody in my whole family. 87 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 5: Did you have a name picked out ahead of time? 88 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 5: And did you pivot because of the day. 89 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: So we we kind of had a name picked out, 90 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 3: but we really weren't sure if we're going to go 91 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: there route. And then you know, at of the super Bowl, 92 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: you know, we still didn't know. And then just a 93 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: couple of days later, my sister's like, Hey, what, why's 94 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: your name Champ? And so we're like, that's kind of fitting, 95 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: you know, that's kind of fitting, you know, And that's 96 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: how I kind of got the name, So shout out 97 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: to my sister. 98 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: You'll ever have a conversation after the fact of like, 99 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: why didn't you tell me? 100 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: Right? Yes, but she was like she just wanted me 101 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: to focus. 102 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: You know. 103 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: That was a big moment for me and the team, 104 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: and so, uh, you know, I kind of kind of 105 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: wish you would have told me, you know, because I 106 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: knew where she was, and you know, it was just 107 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: a whole big deal. She got brought on on a stretcher, 108 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my goodness, you didn't tell 109 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: me all this, you know. So but it all ended 110 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: up working out, and you know, I got a healthy baby, 111 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: and my wife was okay. 112 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: For like the logistics of getting out of there, but 113 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 4: also knowing that she was taking a right we were 114 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 4: to the hospital, like all this crazy stuff. 115 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 116 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: Nervous, Yeah, definitely have been. Yeah, definitely was definitely was 117 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: a nerve wrecking yeah, exactly. 118 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: And then from a from a professional standpoint right to 119 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: at a pretty young point in your NFL tenure, you 120 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: get to the mountaintop, right, like, what was that experience 121 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: like going through that Super Bowl run to win that game? 122 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: You're right, it was like a perfect day. Right, it's 123 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Everything works out. You had a really 124 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: good year that year. What was that experience, Like, I'm 125 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: sure that something that you've been dreaming about your whole 126 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: life and then bang it happened. 127 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, just that whole season was you know, it was 128 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: just it was a great season. But of course it 129 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: was up ups and downs during the season. I think 130 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,239 Speaker 3: we went on like a three game losing streak and 131 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: we ended up just you know, coming together and you 132 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: know us me winning at all. But that season was 133 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: just a lot of guys just coming together. You know, 134 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: you shared one common goal was to win the super Bowl, 135 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: and you know that's what we did. And uh, you know, 136 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: to have that feeling, you know, winter super Bowl is 137 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 3: like no other feeling you know, you can never experience. 138 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 3: It's just you're that all time high, you know, and 139 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 3: uh definitely want to experience it again. And uh, it 140 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: was just it was just a great feeling to kind 141 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: of win win the Super Bowl and win it with 142 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: my guys. 143 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 5: I just can't even math them like now and the 144 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 5: baby all the fun day. 145 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot. 146 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there was a lot of interest in 147 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: the story right that that you heard from a lot 148 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: of I think I read three or four different stories 149 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Seeplew Magazine. 150 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: Put out at least ten. 151 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: You are yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah for sure, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and. 152 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: You have a super Bowl ring your dad Sean Jefferson, 153 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: who I grew up in San Diego. Sean Jefferson was 154 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: a big charger way back when. So I have a 155 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: certain affinity for for for what Sean Jefferson did also 156 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: played wide out ye and is and is a wide 157 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: receivers coach right coach for a number of different teams, 158 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: now coaching uh, the Carolina Panthers. When this podcast is released, 159 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: it will be Panthers week. 160 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: And now you've you've been on the other sideline before 162 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: because you were at the Rams and he was with 163 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. But what's that experience like the guy that 164 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: you know helped you so much when you're younger, he's 165 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: now across the sidelines on enemy territory. 166 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of trash talking during the week, I 167 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: say that, But no, it's a great feeling, you know, 168 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: especially you know my upbringing, you know, uh, you know, 169 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: he always told me, you know, once I told him 170 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: my goal of being in a football player. He set 171 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: everything aside and just you know, focused on that goal, 172 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: no matter how hard he was on me, and you know, 173 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: he just wanted me to accomplish that goal. And so 174 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: to have him, you know, as a mentor, especially him 175 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: doing it at a high level and me wanting to 176 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: follow in his footsteps, it's a blessing. 177 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: And you know, I remember playing in Arizona. I end 178 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: up scoring the session. 179 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: Down against him that week and then that was that 180 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: was crazy and that and they got the got this 181 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: whole reaction on TV and stuff like that. But you know, 182 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: he's always excited. You know, he had to kind of 183 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: like play it for the camera, you know, but but 184 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 3: it was a great feeling. It's always good to match 185 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: up against my dad. 186 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 5: I feel like he would have more conflicting emotions than 187 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: you in that moment. 188 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, so, I mean, yeah, exactly. 189 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: You know, he's on the he's on the opposing teams, 190 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: so he can't show you too much emotion. But I 191 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: think d down inside, he's like, yeah, that's my son. 192 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: Did you give him that one? 193 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, I did, Yes, I did. Yeah, that's 194 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: so awesome. 195 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: And he was also a member of the Atlanta Falcons 196 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: from two thousand to two thousand and two. 197 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: I think yes, so you were five, yeah something around there. 198 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: Are there any now that you're with the Falcons and 199 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you're here, are there any like flashback memories of Oh 200 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I was running around on this field or I've been 201 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: here before, Like, do you have any memories from that time? 202 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely remember, you know, uh, being here and 203 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: getting to go on the field my dad, you know, 204 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: after the games like that, and you know him wearing 205 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: them at eighty four. It was cool, you know, cool moment. 206 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: My dad always wanted to be around the game. He 207 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: always wanted me to, you know, bring me around the guy. 208 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: So it's a lot of times I was in the 209 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: locker room just with my dad, just chilling. So just 210 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: being back here and you know him playing here too 211 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: as well. You know, it's great. So you know when 212 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: it happened, you know, he was all excited and you know, 213 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: you're just saying, you. 214 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: Know, I used to play there. So I was like, 215 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: I know, Dad, I know, yeah, I know. So it 216 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 2: was cool. What number was he he was eighty four? Yeah, yeah, 217 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: eighty four yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. 218 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: But to have somebody in your family in your house, right, 219 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's hard on you, but he he he 220 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: you have like a path right that that he did it, 221 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, a certain way. You have somebody who you trust, 222 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: who can like speak the same language as you. 223 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: Like. 224 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: How much of a benefit was that for you as 225 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: as you were growing us and becoming you know, a 226 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: fetter letter. 227 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a benefit to have. 228 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: You know. 229 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: I just remember, you know, everywhere he went, I was 230 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: just around him, you know, just learning more about the 231 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: game and seeing how pros work. 232 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: And I got to see. 233 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: Calvima Johnson, you know, I think he's a very sero, 234 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: you know, in my opinion, and just see him, you know, 235 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: how he was a pro and other athletes that my 236 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: dad has been around that I got to see, and 237 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: you know, just learning the game and you know, just 238 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 3: you know, trying to be around as much as I 239 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: can and learn as much as I can. So he 240 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: in every shape for in the Faston, he made sure 241 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: I was a part of the game, and you know, 242 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: it benefit. 243 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: Me a lot. 244 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if this is true or not because internet, 245 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: but I read somewhere that he was once you decided 246 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: like this is my dream, kind of like flipped the switch. 247 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: Where he got tougher. 248 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: On you or it's like, I know what it takes, 249 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: so I'm not gonna let off the gas because you're 250 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: my son. 251 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 5: Is that true? 252 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? Definitely yeah. 253 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: My dad, Yeah, my dad, My dad. My dad was 254 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: definitely hard on me, you know, at a young age. 255 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: But you know, it all worked out, you know, and right, 256 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: you know, it all worked out. So at the end 257 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: of the day, you know, I just thank him for 258 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: you know, being hard on me, you know, and uh, 259 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: you know, he got me to this, to this point 260 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: in my life, and you know, I'm so grateful for 261 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: him and thankful you know that God places him in 262 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: my life. So you know, at the end of the day, 263 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: you know, you know he was hard on me, but 264 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: it all worked out. 265 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: You know. 266 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: What was it like balancing that in the moment? 267 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, uh, right exactly, you know exactly. So uh, 268 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: you know you kind of take you know, his dad, 269 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: you know, at home, but you know, when it's coming 270 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: to the games, i mean, high school college, you know, 271 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: he's he's coach mode, you know what I'm saying, and 272 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: you know he just wants the best for you know, 273 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: he just want the best for me, and you know, 274 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: I just got to take you with the grain of salt, 275 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: you know, because at the end of the day, you know, 276 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: he's my dad and he just wants the best. So 277 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: you know when he's hard on me, you know, I 278 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: just hear him all I got your dad, and you 279 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: just keep going. 280 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Super Bowl, Yeah exactly. 281 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: You're your first team All state at getting. 282 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 5: The right yep, yes, sir, I mean yeah, so it seemed. 283 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah. 284 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Like what was your high school experience? Like, I mean 285 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: it's football crazy. Yeah, you probably have letters from big 286 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: programs all over the place, Like, what was that experience? Like, 287 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I always find it interesting you're sixteen, seventeen years old, 288 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: You're you're getting you know, come to Georgia, come to Kentucky, 289 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: come everywhere, Like what's that experience? 290 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, it's a great experience, you know, something that 291 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: you know, you dream of, something that you know. 292 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: Uh. I mean, of course my mom and dad were 293 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: excited because I got to go to school for free. 294 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: But it's a great feeling, you know, especially having coaches 295 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: come to your school and having legs come to your 296 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: school and you know that these schools want you, and uh, 297 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: my high school coach, William Hester did a great job 298 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: of managing that for me and just being for me 299 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: there in a moment, you know, because it can get 300 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: kind of chaotic a little bit, you know, and especially 301 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 3: with college crew and you guys, coaches coming to school 302 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: every day, letters coming every day, people tugging on your 303 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: stuff like that. But it was a great experience. And 304 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: also I ended up choosing Ole miss at first with 305 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: a Hugh Freeze and then alsomely finished at Florida. 306 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: I finished Florida with fellow. Yeah, do you have any 307 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: good stories? Man? 308 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: We got a lot of stories in college, for sure, 309 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: but but. 310 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: No, he was just one of the guys, you know. 311 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: When he came in, you know, we just kind of click, 312 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: you know, and I know he was going to be 313 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 3: a talented player, and uh, you know he obviously he 314 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: is a great player, and so you. 315 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: Know, we kind of clicked when he got there. 316 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: And ever since then, our friends, it just took off 317 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: and we've been bested for instance, you know, since Florida. 318 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: Has that kind of eased the transition in here because 319 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: you've got somebody in the locker room, you know, and 320 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: you trust and I mean, you guys don't play the 321 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: same spot at least kind of ease that in because 322 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: you're coming in mid season. You know, it's a little 323 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: bit of a different experience as you try to get 324 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: used to her teens and things are. 325 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's definitely made it an easier transition. You know, 326 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: I was talking to him on the phone before you know, 327 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: I got here, and you know, just telling me how 328 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: they his work and stuff like that. But you know, 329 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: he made it easy for me, you know, yeah, to 330 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: drive me around a lot when I. 331 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: First got here. But here, but other than that though, 332 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: he's you know, he's been helping me off for sure. 333 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: I remember both of them are so excited when because 334 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: Kyle talked about you being here before your first interview 335 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: and he's. 336 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 5: Just like my boys in town. 337 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and then it was very. 338 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: Similar with you or it's like, yeah he called me 339 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: the day before, yeah. 340 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: Exactly. 341 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: So your your full name Van? She Lashawn Jefferson Junior. 342 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and yeah Van. 343 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 5: So your dad goes by Sean but same name. 344 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: Right, yeah? Yeah. 345 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: Is there like a family tradition or something like that, So, 346 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: I mean my grandma just you know, name it, and 347 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: so she just told my mom, you know, he has 348 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 3: to be named others dad. So my mom just had 349 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: to ride with it because you know, you know, my 350 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: uh my dad's mom was not going for it. So 351 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: at the end of the day she just so that's 352 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 3: my mind kind of got pressured into it, and that's 353 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: how I came up. 354 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 5: My name isn't your son? 355 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, that was me that time. 356 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: That was me. 357 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: I just wanted to carry on the tradition, you know 358 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: of you know how one you know, you know, he 359 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: sees his dad playing in the NFL, and you know, 360 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: he can see his grandpa, you know that playing in 361 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: the NFL too as well, So you know, just to 362 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: have that name and to know that, you know, somebody 363 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: did it or perform, you know, just to carry that 364 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: on and you know, hopefully when he gets older he 365 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: can do the same. 366 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: Right, you're right, right, right? 367 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: So what do you call him? 368 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: I call him V. I just called him V. 369 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that same name, but kind of 370 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: like different versions of it exactly being a dad now, 371 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: Like how do you think and like you had you know, 372 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: parents that were supportive and helped you achieve your dreams. 373 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Right now that you're a dad, Like, what's what's the feeling, 374 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, like for you now that you're on the 375 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: other side of it. 376 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great having kids. 377 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: You know. I love my kids and you know, their 378 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 3: joy every day, especially when you come home and you 379 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: know you ain't the door brow they're running up to 380 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: you and you get to see them. You know, it's 381 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 3: like the best feeling in the world. But you know, 382 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: just me now being a father, you know, and having 383 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: the responsibility of you know, my kids is you know, 384 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: kind of just doing the same thing kind of my 385 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: dad did, but in a different way of parenting, you know. 386 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: And of course he taught me things, but you know 387 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: I could do put my own little spin on it 388 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: too as well. So you know, I'm just you know, 389 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: they they're just they're just so innocent, you know, And 390 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's just like, you know, 391 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: I'm my dad, and it's it's a great feeling. 392 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: I want to circle back just a little bit, thinking 393 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: of like your relationship with your dad, how he said 394 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: he was hard on you, but like helped you so much. 395 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: Did you ever feel like pressured to kind of live 396 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: up to his name and a national perspective? 397 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: No, not really. 398 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you know, wherever the 399 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: path I was going to take I was going to take, 400 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: you know, whether it's football, whether it's anything else. But 401 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: at the end the day, I knew I wanted to 402 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 3: play football, and wherever that PA took me, you know, 403 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: it's just going to take me. So at the end 404 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: of the day, I just trusted God in the situation, 405 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: and you know, ultimately I got here in the NFL, 406 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: which is which is great, you know, And by the 407 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: end of day I didn't feel any pressure to live 408 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: up to what he did. You know, I just wanted to, 409 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, create a name for myself. You know, obviously 410 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: we had the same name, but obviously, you know, just 411 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: put my own spin on it and uh, you know, 412 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: do something on my own and. 413 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: That'll be something I'm sure you'll carry on to. 414 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: Your Yeah, exactly, definitely for sure. 415 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: So tell us your your draft day story. You get 416 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: taken in the second round. It was twenty twenty, so. 417 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: That's that's COVID COVID. 418 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like a little bit different. 419 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, what was. 420 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: It like, can you recall when you know your rings. 421 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, so it was it was crazy, you know. 422 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: I went to the went to the Singer Bowl, performed there, 423 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: and then getting ready for the combine, you know, on Wednesday, 424 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: like I'm doing the forty sprints in the hallway and 425 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: then uh, I get called down to the medical and 426 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: they say I had I got a Jones fracture on 427 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 3: my foot and I can't participate. So I'm like, I'm 428 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: just I'm sick. I'm like, oh, man, I can't participate 429 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: in combine, you know. 430 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: And then you know, I. 431 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: Get I go up to New Jersey because at the time, 432 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: my dad was coaching for the Jets, and you know, 433 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: I'm just sitting there, you know, uh, just waiting for 434 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: the call and obviously I see you know, I don't 435 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: know the areas that area cod but you know, yeah, 436 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: but uh I just hear Lessnie call like hey, you 437 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 3: want to be around. And it was just like the 438 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 3: best day ever, you know, and especially just being drafted 439 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: into the NFL lifelong goal of you know, you had 440 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: since you're a kid. You know, everybody was overcoming so 441 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: much emotion, my mom, especially my dad, you know, and uh, 442 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 3: it was just a great feeling to have my sister's 443 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: there and my family there. It was it was just 444 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: a great moment. 445 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: Because there's there's like there's a lot. We're like we're 446 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: talking about you know, first team All State going to 447 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: an SEC school and there there's a lot of glamorous stuff, 448 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, but you don't get there without doing 449 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: the work when nobody's watching, Like the hard grinding. It's 450 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: like all all those times, right like doing doing what 451 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: you need to do when you're not getting your picture taken? Right, Like, 452 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: does that kind of validate all Like all those days 453 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: when maybe you're sacrifice and you're you're not going to 454 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: parties when you would be, or you that you're having 455 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: to really focus on this. 456 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: Dream that you have. 457 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. You know it's days like that, 458 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, and if you want to get to this level, 459 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: you know, you got to make sacrifices. And a lot 460 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: of the guys that you know I had on my team, 461 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: we all shared the same goal, and uh we always 462 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: took it upon ourselves to just you know, do the 463 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: extra mile, go to extra mile. And Kyle was one 464 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: of those guys. You know, I just remember nights on 465 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: nights we would just go to the facility and just 466 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: run routes or just catch on the jugs, you know, 467 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 3: just simple things like that. You know, if you want to, 468 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: you know, do something in life. You gotta you gotta 469 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: work hard at it. So that's something that my dad 470 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: is still to me, and especially uh at Florida they 471 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 3: instill that to you as well, and that that culture. 472 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: So but you know, it's just all that, you know, 473 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: when that phone call happened, just felt like everything was 474 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: paying off. 475 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I did difficult and like, did it make it 476 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 4: seem like perhaps the goal, the dream was further away? 477 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 5: Decision? 478 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. 479 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't have any plans on transferring when 480 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: I got to Old miss but uh, he Freeze ended up, 481 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: you know, not being the coach anymore, and me and 482 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 3: him had. 483 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: A great relationship. 484 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: So I just feel like it was just a new 485 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: time for a new stage, you know, and you know, 486 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: you have your dad was like, man, I got a transfer, 487 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: and at that time, you didn't have the transfer portal, 488 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: you know, so it wasn't you know, it wasn't immediately 489 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: you get to play. You might have to sit out 490 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: a year. So I had to go through this whole 491 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: long process of me trying to get elswell to play 492 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 3: that next season, which you know, by the grace of God, 493 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 3: I you know, got the opportunity to do. But you know, 494 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: it was definitely tough, you know, especially you know, I 495 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: had some great friends on the. 496 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 2: Team that you know, I didn't want to leave. 497 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you know, you 498 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: got to make a businessision for van and so that's 499 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: what I did, and ultimately it worked out for me 500 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 3: and met some great dudes and I'm best friends with 501 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: to this day. 502 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, we had some great seasons there. 503 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: What are those conversations like with your dad because more 504 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 4: old school didn't really transfer not and like now it's 505 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: even more common, so it's like you're in that middle 506 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: ground between very often. 507 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 5: And not at all. 508 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know when I first came to 509 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: him about it, he was like, are you sure, And 510 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you know, I feel like this 511 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: is not going to make for myself. And he was like, Okay, 512 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: if you feel that way, you know, then go for it. 513 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: And you know, my dad is transparent with me. He'll 514 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 3: be honest with me and tell me, you know, when 515 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: I'm when I'm lacking or you know, what I'm doing 516 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: good or what I'm doing bad. And I feel like, 517 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: you know, I need that, you know, because you know, 518 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 3: that's what he's supposed to do. And you know, we 519 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 3: had a great conversation about it, and ultimately I ended 520 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: up making that decision and like I said, it end 521 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 3: up working out for me. 522 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Right exactly. 523 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 5: Is it? 524 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: It's playing football is still fun to you. I mean, 525 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: like so much of it is business, right and you know, 526 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: all these different things that go on around it and 527 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: all the hard work. But this is your job now. 528 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 1: But you still you still feel like a fourteen year 529 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: old kid. 530 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely still feel like a you know, fourteen year 531 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: ol kid. Obviously, now there's between fourteen and now is 532 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: that you know, it's money involved and stuff like that, 533 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: you know, but other than that, man, it's it's fun. 534 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: You know, football is fun. You know. Obviously the fun 535 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: day is Sunday, and uh that's the day you get to, 536 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: you know, show all the work that you put in 537 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: there in practice. But other than that, man, football is 538 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: just fun. You know, it's going to be fun for 539 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: you know. Of course, you got different aspects of it 540 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: when you go from high school to college, you know, 541 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: to the NFL. It's different aspects of the game. But 542 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, football is football, and 543 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: you just got to enjoy it, you know, because at 544 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, you get to 545 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: wake up and do something that you love to do, 546 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: and you know, God especially with the opportunity, So just 547 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: have fun, you know, no matter where the chists may 548 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: fall at the end of the day, you know, just 549 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: go out there and play. 550 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right, exactly, yeah, exactly. Okay. 551 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: At this point in the podcast, we do something called 552 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: rapid Fire. It's really all that rapid necessarily, but everybody 553 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: gets the same five questions. You're on the heart seat band. 554 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: Are you ready? 555 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: Ready? 556 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: Now? 557 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: Can I hype this up anymore? 558 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 5: Okay? 559 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: What is your favorite play of your career at any level? 560 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Play playing against Arizona? H call like a take a 561 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: fifty yard touchdown against my dad? 562 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love it. Yeah. 563 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: And you know what, people who sing in that seat, 564 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: they know their favorite play like immediately every single time. 565 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: It's like total recall. 566 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: Yeah that's a good one. Yeah, uh, it's yes. And 567 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: my dad's on his play yeap, is that he has 568 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: it in the case? 569 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: Yep, fantastic. 570 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Who's your favorite athlete or who was your favorite athlete 571 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: regardless of sports? 572 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: Favorite athlete Kobe Kobe Bryant, Yeah, Kobe Bryant. 573 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not a football player, but you know, you 574 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: hear a lot about that, like the Mamba mentality, and 575 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: it seems like he's influenced almost like a whole generation 576 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: of the athletes too. Yeah, he has like growing up 577 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: and seeing i mean talk about a grinder. 578 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, of course people have the debate, 579 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: you know, Lebron Jordan, Kobe, you know, you know, but 580 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, just the way they played the game, 581 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: the way that you know, you hear him talk about 582 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: the game, how passionate he was, how much hard work 583 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 3: he put into the game. You know, it's just amazing 584 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 3: to see how all that, you know, translated to the court, 585 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: and when he went out there, you could just tell, 586 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: you know that he was just locked in to you know, 587 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: to his plan and what he had to do. And 588 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: you know, obviously you know, he's one of the best 589 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: of all time, and you know, and it shows where. 590 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, facts, yeah, I'm old. 591 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Enough that m is like if like if you're in 592 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: your late thirties or early forties, it's like automatically Jordan. 593 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then you. 594 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 6: Just go back, Okay, next one, are you watching a 595 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: show or movie right now that you recommend show or movie. 596 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm not watching it right now, but a show called 597 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: Snowfall probably everybody probably knows about it. Yeah, yeah, that 598 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 3: was That's kind of one of my best shows that 599 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 3: I like, you never seen it. 600 00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: Or watch it? Yeah, FX yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 601 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: it's it's nice. It's like action. You can say action 602 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: is suspense. Yeah yeah, yeah. 603 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: Okay, let's see whether it's homemade or from a restaurant 604 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like, what's like your like desert island. 605 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: Meal, desert island meal? Uh can my mom my mom. 606 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: Cooks like uh yeah yeah, my mom my mom cooks. 607 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: I think my favorite when I go home, I just 608 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: actually cook like pork chops and rice. Really yeah, that's 609 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: the best meal and perfect meal. Hat yep knows how 610 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: to make it spot on. So that's kind of my 611 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 3: goal to meal when I go back home and see 612 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 3: moms yep, yep. 613 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 614 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 5: Last one, you had a superpower? What would it be? 615 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: And why superpower? 616 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: Probably read people's moms, see what they think? Yeah, yeah, 617 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 3: his mind, see what they think? Yeah, see see what 618 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: people think. They'll probably be my super power for sure. 619 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: And then you go and you'd like gonna. 620 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: Play right, yeah, exactly, Yeah, and this is gonna be easy. 621 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 2: Well awesome, Thank you, thank you so much for having me. Yeah. 622 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Focused podcast presented by ticket Master. 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