1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into North Side Territory FIUL Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm Zahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: your Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. It 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: was kind of a news packed week, I guess out 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta, and you know, the final big bit 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: of news happened with the announcement that Anthony Rizzo has 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: retired and retired as a Cub with a little nice 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: send off coming on Saturday. 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: Obviously a fan favorite. 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: Just you know, kind of looked at as one of 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: the leaders of that championship corps, definitely one of the 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: biggest personalities in that group and just like a hugely 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: impactful player on and off, I mean player on the field, 14 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: in person, off the field. In the city of chicag Iago, 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: it should be a fun day on Saturday. I think 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be a beautiful weekend in Chicago. I'm 17 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: still in Atlanta as we record, but I believe it 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: was a nice week and it should be a beautiful weekend. 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a fun atmosphere this weekend. 20 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: No no, I mean easily one of the most popular 21 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: Chicago athletes of our lifetimes, I would say, And just 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: even you know, white Sox fans could recognize Anthony Rizzo's 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: brilliance on the field, his impact off the field, just 24 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: kind of the vibes he would project as someone who 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: was a leader in a very kind of unconventional way, 26 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: just so confident, a little goofy, very competitive at the 27 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: same time. And yeah, his work at Lori's Children's Hospital, 28 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: with millions of dollars he helped rays. 29 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: Just you know, I've called. 30 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: Him, you know, mister Cub two point zero, just because 31 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: he was someone who understood his responsibilities. He was thrown 32 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: into a new city, getting traded from San Diego after 33 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: very disappointing major league debut, and when you look back 34 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: on that time, the Cubs needed, like certain players to 35 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: hit and grow up in Chicago, and Anthony Rizzo absolutely did. 36 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: And it's very fitting that he is coming back to 37 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: Chicago and sounds like it will be a pretty regular 38 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: presence or a semi regular presence around the team at 39 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: Wrigley Field spring training. 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe broadcast. 41 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: Both, like who knows. I'm sure it's kind of pick 42 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: your own schedule for those ambassador roles. But the fact 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: that he's in the fold in an official capacity is 44 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: a good thing for the Cubs. 45 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we'll see how much around this year. Obviously, 46 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: he'll likely be around at some point during spring training 47 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: next year. It would be fun if he's around for 48 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs a little bit. I think the Cups and 49 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: the fans would certainly enjoy that. You know what, this 50 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: is funny. I'm not sure if I've told you this, 51 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: but one of my favorite pieces that you've ever written 52 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: was before you were at the athletic and it was 53 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: the piece about him kind of being challenged after was 54 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: it the twelve season? The thirteen season by Mike Borzello 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: kind of telling him like how good do you want 56 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: to be at this game? Essentially, and then Rizzo making 57 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: those changes to and becoming. 58 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: You know, a really good hitter. 59 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: He was. 60 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: A council was talking about this yesterday, how in an 61 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: era where there were you know, it was three true 62 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: outcome like kind of became like no big deal with 63 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: the strikeout, Like he was opposite he did not strike 64 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: out much. That wasn't the case before those changes, Like 65 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: he was a strikeout guy. He struck out a lot, 66 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: and it was supposed to be like this guy strikes 67 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: out in his power. He changed who he was. I 68 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: think that's like when you were able to do that. 69 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I always appreciate seeing the guys that get up to 70 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: the bigs realize, oh, oh, I have this flaw, I 71 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: have this hole that's being exposed by these pictures. Whatever 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: it is, I need to make some drastic changes. And 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: they were pretty drastic. I mean, I didn't take a 74 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: scout to notice the difference between Anthony Rizzo whatever twenty 75 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: twelve and twenty fourteen that there were some pretty big 76 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: differences there. And obviously he became this hugely impactful player, 77 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: not maybe not MVP caliber type, but you know, all 78 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: star guy with down ballot votes for MVP, one of 79 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: the better first basement of that generation, probably overshadowed by 80 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: guys like Freddy Freeman. I'm probably missing someone else that 81 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: he was overshadowed by. But just to you know, obviously, 82 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Key Cog some really great moments too. Like I can 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: list off some really fun moments that you and I 84 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: witnessed live or washed on TV. I'll tell you my 85 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: personal Anthony Rizzo's story after Geez Game four of the 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: NLCS in twenty seventeen against the Nationals. Maybe it was 87 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: Game three, whatever it was, it was Steven Strasberg pitched, 88 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: and I asked him in a big group, like, what's it, 89 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: what's it like trying to hit that change up? And 90 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: he kind of gave me a look and he's like, 91 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: it's probably like you trying to hit at sluggers. 92 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: That's what I can hit. Anthony. 93 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll give you like four I pas and you. 94 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: Know exactly, but I mean so many. 95 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there was another big moment in that series, 96 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: right to respect me bloop single that he hit to 97 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: walk off the Nats. I mean, I still love the 98 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: first full capacity Wrigley Field game after the you know, 99 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: after Covid and hitting that huge home run and like 100 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: a thirteen pitch at bat and the crowd was just 101 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: the Cubs were still in it at that point in 102 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one itself felt like they had a chance 103 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: and and and like the energy in the stadium was 104 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: really cool in the ballpark, and of course, you know, 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: winning the World Series, challenging the Reds to a fight 106 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: back before the Cubs were relevant. Some fun Rizzo moments. Oh, 107 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: the tarp catches are always fun too. Those are cool. 108 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it really was the full package of 109 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: you know, you can say maybe Paul Goldschmidt has had 110 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: a better career. By the numbers, Freddy Freeman I think 111 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: is he's probably like a Hall of Famer, right, I mean, 112 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 3: he's he's like probably a notch above Rizzo just because 113 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: he had that kind of he's had that second act 114 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: with with the Dodgers. But otherwise, you know, would Anthony 115 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: Risseau trade his career with anyone else, I don't know 116 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: when you consider the fact that he's a cancer survivor, 117 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: coming up in the Red Sox organization and the relationships 118 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: he made there and how things came full circle, whether 119 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: it's the executives who you traded him and traded for him, 120 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: or you know, meeting someone like John Lester your very 121 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: early in his career, being an inspiration and then reuniting 122 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: in Chicago, his friendship with David Ross, and like you're saying, 123 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: all these things just kind of blend together. Whether it's 124 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: him wearing his uniform on the plane to d C 125 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: when they had that makeup game. You know, no one 126 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: wanted to travel. I think it was something absurd like 127 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: forty games in thirty nine days he wears his uniform. 128 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: You're right, the tarpcatch, diving into the stands, all these 129 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: amazing defensive plays. How close he would get on those 130 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: bunt plays. 131 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually yeah, like. 132 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: Just like fearless. And then obviously he's a classic left 133 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: handed hitter. I think back to I remember you talked 134 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: to Joey Vado a long time ago as Rizzo was 135 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: kind of on the ascent, and him talking about Rizzo's approach, 136 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: and you had this weird mix where yes, there were 137 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: times when Rizzo would kind of seek things out. He 138 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: did make changes, but he didn't really broadcast it. Like 139 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: he was very much about this pitch. I'm going to 140 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: beat you on this pitch, whether it's Clayton Kershaw or 141 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: someone else. He wanted the moment and he adjusted in 142 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: the moment. And you know, the leadership question of like 143 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: I still still can't believe it how him and Hobby 144 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: would just mess with each other on pop ups during 145 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen playoffs, just like screaming at each other 146 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: this pre and like he helped deflate a lot of 147 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: that pressure along with you, Joe Madden and some others. 148 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: But it's just like not traditional not conventional sort of leader, 149 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: but like the perfect personality for that moment. 150 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you need all sorts in the clubhouse, right. 151 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 152 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: There was the quiet one who rarely but when he 153 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: spoke up it was important. In Jason Hayward, ben Zoebrist, 154 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: who just you know, easy to like follow and respect 155 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: and look up to. And Rizzo was more like, let's 156 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: keep it loose. This is how I loosen up the clubhouse. 157 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: And you know, Ross had his way of going. Everybody 158 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: has it differently, right, everyone does it differently. I think 159 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: that that was kind of something that stood out with 160 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: that clubhouse. They had all those different types of personalities. 161 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: It was It was certainly fun to cover, and it 162 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: was different. You know, the peak of Cubs baseball, and 163 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: he'll he'll go down or he has gone down as 164 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: as one of the greatest ever to wear a Cub's uniform, 165 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: or at least one of the most beloved to wear 166 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: a Cub's uniform. I'm curious how they'll memorialize him in 167 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the future. We still don't have like a twenty sixteen 168 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: rail big memorial anywhere in that ballpark, so I'm curious 169 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: to see what they do down the line. If it's 170 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: going to be for Rizzo or the whole team in general, 171 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: what they'll do, because it feels like you kind of 172 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: have to. But maybe maybe that's coming next year. I 173 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: guess it's ten years next year, so it's crazy. 174 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: See. 175 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll take a quick break and come 176 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: back and talk about the latest injury, or not even 177 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: the latest injury, whatever, the latest decision on an injury. 178 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 5: FTFAM, let's talk about fair Harbor. And if you're listening, 179 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 5: I hope that you watch this conversation at some point 180 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: because we're doing show and telcrats shorts. They can be 181 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 5: used as a bathing suit, and the liner, which we 182 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 5: call butter, is the game breaker. 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It happened Tuesday, right pretty much right 198 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: after we recorded on Tuesday. 199 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I noticed the timing. 200 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: So you know, look, I think the first thing, a 201 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: lot of this we discussed, like how this isn't just like. 202 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: A Cubs decision. 203 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: I think what happened was they felt pretty good that 204 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: like I think it, Council kind of felt like the 205 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: five to six day mark is when you start to 206 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: push it. 207 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: It's like you have to have a decision by then. 208 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: And and I think they felt pretty good after Monday 209 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: they did according to everything everyone I talked to, they 210 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: felt good. They thought, come in Tuesday, everything will be 211 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: all good. Council and Tucker both said it just didn't 212 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: go as well as they had hoped. On Tuesday, when 213 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: he came out to the ballpark and did early work, 214 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: Tucker said, even when it wasn't feeling as good. It 215 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: would loosen up as he did work, as the blood 216 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: kind of started flowing through it. 217 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: He said, on Tuesday it tightened up more. So. 218 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: The intense work on Monday obviously must have had some 219 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: impact and led to Tuesday feeling off while he was working. 220 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: Neither of them described it as a setback. 221 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: It never felt worse than it did that initial when 222 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: the initial injury happened, or however you want to describe it. 223 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: And it sounds like what this is now. 224 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: I liked the way council described it, which instead of 225 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: treating it, it's kind of like just or instead of 226 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: testing it, it's now treating it. So no more testing 227 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: it for a couple of days, Let him get treated, 228 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: kind of rest and then get after it and maybe 229 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: this weekend, maybe a couple days later, and he's eligible 230 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: to come back. I believe Pittsburgh is where they're headed 231 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: on Monday, so uh, maybe he'll come back on Tuesday. 232 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: That's when that's when he's eligible. It sounds all signs 233 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: point to that happening. I'm not ready to sound alarm belts. 234 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: You just never know with the muscle injuries, but it 235 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: does seem like this is just like, Okay, let's just 236 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: get these ten days knocked out. 237 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 238 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: I can't do another segment on like injury protocols, especially 239 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: since it h and return to play practices. I'm more 240 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: just curious, like for our listeners, I mean, you were 241 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: there in Atlanta, or you are in Atlanta as a recording, 242 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: you spoke with Tucker like he's a really hard guy 243 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: to read. They're gray areas with some of these injuries, 244 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: Like what was were his takeaways? What was his meter? 245 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: How did he sound, particularly coming off that mental reset 246 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: and looking pretty good at the plate, and then this. 247 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: Happens, Yeah, he basically said. So. 248 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: First of all, I accidentally made him laugh by uh 249 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: by uh. We started the interview and instead of hitting record, 250 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: I hit play, I absent mindedly hit play, and everyone 251 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: like kind of turned and looked at me. And I'm 252 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: like shuffling and trying and bumbling and trying to stop it. 253 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: And then I was like a party foul, sorry about that, 254 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: And he was kind of like giggling at it, and 255 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I was. 256 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: We were all afterwards, we were all like, was he smiling? 257 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 4: Like we haven't seen that very often? So obviously he's 258 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 4: not like it too. Down in the dumpy. 259 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: It seemed like his normal self, which is you know, 260 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: very you know, matter of fact, not a ton of 261 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: emotion either way. 262 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: Did not seem concerned about this. 263 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I had asked him about you know, you just you 264 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: had that long stretch of for play and then just 265 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: gotten back in a rhythm. Is this tough to deal 266 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: with now? And he's like, I don't really link the two. Uh, 267 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, I expect to just be back in there 268 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: and then back and you know what I was. 269 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: I was feeling good at the plate, he said. 270 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: But but he expects to continue to feel good at 271 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: the plate, so. 272 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: He's not concerned about that. I get, you know, it's 273 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: the type of. 274 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: Thing where I guess we'll see he's not expecting, you know, 275 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: to indeed at bats and the miners anything like that. 276 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: He has been swinging, he has been throwing. It's only 277 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: running that impacts the injuries. So I think, you know, 278 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to. 279 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Assume that he's just going to come out there and 280 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: be the. 281 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Guy that we saw on the road in La and 282 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: Sandy or wherever they wear San Francisco and all that. 283 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously they need him, they need him 284 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: to be that guy. Or close to it, Otherwise it's 285 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a mess. I'll say this about the offense 286 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: in general. I was probably as down as I've been 287 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: when we last recorded. Uh, they didn't light up the 288 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: world the past two games, but I appreciated the bounce 289 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: back in the fight. They showed constant, consistent pressure on 290 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: Tuesday and then the big breakthrough hit later in the game, 291 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: and and they got to Chris Sale after a terrible 292 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: first time through the order. Just I mean, it's Grisale, 293 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: and he's one of the best pitchers in baseball. When 294 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: when he's right, and he was dominating them, and they 295 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: made adjustments and scored three runs off of him, That's 296 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: that's a win. That's that's a good and that's a 297 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: win in as far as facing Grissale, and it's a 298 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: win in the win column. They got the win. I 299 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: have to give them credit for bouncing back. 300 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: I did. I was down on that offense. 301 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: I did not like that performance on Monday, and they 302 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: did bounce back, So so give them credit for that. 303 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 304 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: And I think Tucker we've talked about him a lot 305 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: after just kind of months of assuming he's gonna be 306 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 3: the Cub's best hitter, one of the best hityers in baseball, 307 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: a guy who could command whatever five hundred million dollars 308 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: ish on the open market. It's just time for him 309 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: to be healthy and hit. 310 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: Yes, like we can't. 311 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: Some of this feels like around the team, like just 312 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: filling space of like oh, like where's he at mentally 313 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: and like will this carry over? Or is this a 314 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: good sign? 315 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: It's like, this guy's one of. 316 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: The best players in baseball. Just just be that when 317 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: it counts, and that will make things a lot easier. 318 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: On the cups. 319 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he should have about two weeks to ramp up 320 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: before the playoffs, and then you want them rolling and 321 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: feeling good at least feeling good even if they're not 322 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: like fully clicking. 323 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: You just don't know. 324 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: When it's gonna click, and you'd like it to happen 325 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: in October, don't I guess. 326 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: Don't waste it all now. 327 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and then 328 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: talk about some front office reremblings. 329 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 5: We are longtime fans of Omaha Steaks and I am 330 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 5: drooling looking at the website right now featuring USDA certified 331 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 5: Tender steaks and also during their red Hot Sale event, 332 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: going on right now this fall. 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Rizzo obviously built that twenty nineteen 358 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: World Series team. He is known for like his scouting prowess, 359 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: really highly respected guy in the business. And Carter is 360 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: kind of the opposite in the sense of this is 361 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: not someone that you're going to see out behind home 362 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: plate scouting. 363 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: Is. 364 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: He has helped revamp this cub's front office. He's had 365 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: a lot on his plate and done a lot of 366 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: things to you know, shape the front office. And and 367 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: they are a model heavy team. They've they've pivoted away 368 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: from in person scouting at h at the highest levels, 369 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: I think it's ACL and below are the only places 370 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: where they're they're doing in person scouting. It's a lot 371 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: of video scouting, very model heavy with every department, whether 372 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: it's international, amateur, or pro. At all those departments, including 373 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: R and D have been shaped by Carter Hawkins, Like 374 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: Jed hired him with that in mind, like this is 375 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: your job. 376 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: You are overseeing all. 377 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: These changes and implementing these changes like what he's done 378 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: or not. The Cubs are winning and now he's a 379 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: candidate for a top gig. 380 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it seems like I wouldn't say mission accomplished, 381 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 3: but he's, like you said, done what he was hired 382 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: to do, which may make this a sort of natural 383 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: transition point for someone who has that Cleveland background. I 384 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: think his sensibilities were needed in that the Cubs are 385 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: not spending like the Mets or Dodgers or Phillies, so 386 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 3: that there had to be some discipline impose on this. 387 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: That's not saying that's the way it should be, but 388 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: just the way it is, the way this team functions. 389 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: Carter brought a balance to it or a different perspective. Again, 390 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: a lot of these decisions are not like universally popular. 391 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: His twenty thirty two comment to ESPN certainly resonated and 392 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 3: rankled the fan base and even kind of raised some 393 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: eyebrows within the baseball industry. But like, I could see 394 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: him interviewing very well because he is very like direct 395 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: and straightforward, the telling Washington ownership, this is what you 396 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: have to do, this is the landscape, this is where 397 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: you're week if you want to compete in the National 398 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 3: League East against the Phillies the Mets. I think everyone 399 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: assumes the Braves will be back pretty soon. You're gonna 400 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: have to do X, Y and Z, and these areas 401 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: have to be revamped, and I'd imagine that's why you 402 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: know he's in the mix here. I think the bigger 403 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: questions are more of like what do the Nationals want 404 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 3: to be? You know, when Mike Rizzo was kind of 405 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 3: rolling there. You know, they were fortunate enough to have, 406 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: you know, number one picks when Strasburg and Harper were available. 407 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: But again, Rizzllo is a guy who I think drafted 408 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 3: Shurezer in Arizona and then bet on him as a 409 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 3: free agent and really built that team aggressively, and ownership 410 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: was kind of willing to spend. I mean, they had 411 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: a direct relationship with Scott Boris of placing guys there 412 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: and you Boris guys in the draft, and they really 413 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 3: were I'll never forget I mean, Dale Swaym's saying it 414 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: was like men versus boys out there. I think it 415 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: was maybe twenty twelve or twenty thirteen. And even when 416 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: the Cubs and Nationals met up in the playoff two 417 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: years later, they watched I think it was that serious. 418 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: I gave him an absurd amount of home runs, and 419 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: I think Schwarberg kind of watched it with the coach 420 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 3: just sort of as a like, Wow, this is how 421 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: far you things have come for the Cubs, And there 422 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: are other names in the mix. I wouldn't say that 423 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: it's like a guarantee that, you know, like Carter's the 424 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: only guy or he will be the guy. But I 425 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: think the candidate list and Carter's emergence shows at least 426 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: part of what ownership is thinking and what they're looking for. 427 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's no doubt that he's incredibly organized 428 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: and has a very clear vision and stands by what 429 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: he believes. You can dislike the twenty thirty two comment. 430 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't think if you approach Carter Hawkins and confront 431 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: him about that right now, he'll back down and say 432 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said the wrong thing. No, Like, Carter 433 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: stands by what he says. He may rankle some people 434 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: within the industry or fan base, whatever it may be, 435 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: but he's not going to back down with what he believes. Like, 436 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: he is very focused on the task at hand, and 437 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: and I think you. 438 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: Know that can be frustrating. I get it. I look 439 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 2: you and I talked to a lot of Scouts. 440 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: I think we we we have, we constantly talk to 441 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: these people. I like Scouts. It was hard to write 442 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: that piece about Scouts being let go? What was that 443 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: like almost a year ago now, because you know they're 444 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: they're people within the industry that we've talked to forever 445 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: that you know, it felt like their jobs were being minimized. 446 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: And that's there's just a different wave of viewpoints that 447 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: have come into the game. And you cannot deny that 448 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of success behind some of these 449 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: other ords and even with the Cubs. By running things 450 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: this way, some may say they're leaning too far into 451 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: that direction and going too heavy model heavy, but it's 452 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: absolutely something that a lot of organizations do. Carter seems 453 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: to be really good at it. And like I said, 454 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: when you're when you're ultra focused and you're super organized, 455 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: uh and listen, part of communicates well like there's he 456 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: does that too. It's not like you you know where 457 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: you stand? Yeah, very direct, Yeah, you know where you stand. 458 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: There's no like mincing words. And that's that's important for 459 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: a leader too. So he's got a lot of the 460 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: characteristics that teams are going to look for ownership will 461 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: owners are going to look for and listen, he was 462 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: brought in to do a job and he's done it, 463 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: like he's it's not finished. The job's not finished it 464 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: like you said, maybe not quite mission accomplished. I think 465 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: he wants to win a Royal series and he's not 466 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: like itching to get out of here. 467 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: Uh. But look, I'm not surprised that he's become a candidate. 468 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: We kind of I think even when this opened up, 469 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: maybe you and I, maybe it was and you and I. 470 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: But I remember talking to someone about like I wonder. 471 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: If Carter would be up for that gig, Like he 472 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: does seem like someone that that is headed for that. 473 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: If this happens, it'll be interesting to see what Jed 474 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: does go outside the org again? Is it time to 475 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: post someone from Milwaukee? 476 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: Uh? Like what direction? 477 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: I I guess they already did post someone from Milwaukee 478 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: like Matt Arnold will go up aplectic if they keep 479 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: taking you guys from him. But that would be my 480 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: uh next question. But we'll we'll, we'll cross that bridge 481 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: when we get there. 482 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: I guess. 483 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, thanks it for this episode. Thanks for 484 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: listening to everyone. We'll be back with a mail bag 485 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: episode to wrap up the week. 486 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to everyone. 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