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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we

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Speaker 2: are going to be talking about a political commentator who

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Speaker 2: fainted on live TV, the latest TikTok trends that are

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Speaker 2: causing injuries and deaths, a man doing the unthinkable because

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Speaker 2: he is insecure about his penisize, a lover's quarrel in

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Speaker 2: an infectious disease lab getting denied a passport because of

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Speaker 2: drastic changes in your appearance, and of course we have

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Speaker 2: to talk about the botched firing squad. All that and

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Speaker 2: more on today's episode. First, I want to say I

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Speaker 2: apologize we're not having video this week because I just

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Speaker 2: had surgery yesterday and I looked like quasimoto. So We're

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Speaker 2: gonna take a break from video for this week. And

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you guys more about that a little bit

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Speaker 2: later on. But let's get started with this political commentator

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Speaker 2: who fainted on the air. All right, so last week,

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Speaker 2: political commentator Cameron Canzie. She was doing a segment on

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Speaker 2: Fox News at Night and halfway through a sentence, she

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Speaker 2: All right, so this is vaso vagel syncope. It's just fainting.

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Speaker 2: It's normal. It happens all the time. I actually didn't

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Speaker 2: happen too, like a congresswoman or something this week too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say, how nuts is this? Because

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Speaker 2: All right, so it happens. It could definitely happen when

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Speaker 2: you have like an emotional trigger. And just as a

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Speaker 2: Like those types of things could cause it to happen.

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Speaker 2: And what happens is your heart rate and blood pressure

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Speaker 2: to your brain, and then you temporarily lose consciousness. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you've heard of this happening all the time. The real

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Speaker 2: reason that I wanted to bring up this story was

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Speaker 2: because the video went viral. And if you watch it,

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Speaker 2: the guy his name is Jonathan Hunt, he's the host

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Speaker 1: No, he basically he like watches her fall out of

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get her some help. Why don't you get

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Speaker 1: out of your chair and over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he's just like hardcore, like the show must

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Speaker 2: go on, like no matter what, and really, if you faint,

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Speaker 2: it's not harmful at all. But like the thing that

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Speaker 1: It just was.

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Speaker 2: It was just the weirdest human reaction ever. If you

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Speaker 2: that out, because I just don't understand what's going on there,

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Speaker 1: Was in his earpiece and was like, do not get

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Speaker 2: Like you're just like you're a human being, like this

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Speaker 2: woman just fell in front of you and you don't

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Speaker 2: He doesn't he doesn't just think like oh she just whatever.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just it's just a very weird reaction.

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Speaker 1: It was also weird because it was very like sleeping beauty,

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Speaker 1: I feel horrible for her. I mean, because you know,

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Speaker 1: because does any human that just saw somebody fall. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Well, because it's funny, but not when people are It's

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Speaker 2: passing out and having a medical issue. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Like I watched the video, you know this is this

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, it is just so absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about this. There's this woman

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Speaker 2: that has a podcast that's called Nip Tuck. I assume

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Speaker 2: her having lots of plastic surgery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This chick, Ashley Stobart, she's an influencer and the

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Speaker 1: co host of this nip talk podcast you talked about.

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Speaker 1: It's actually called like nip took what the dot dot

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So she had a lot of controversy because she

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Speaker 1: decided to get a facelift at thirty four, but she

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Speaker 1: so much work done that her passport ended up getting

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Speaker 1: denied on a recent trip. Well, you know, like I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this, this one video or

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Speaker 1: that was going around a couple years ago of Kylie

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Speaker 1: Jenner's face looking like very old and there was a

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Speaker 1: it might essentially be the same as weight loss, like

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Speaker 1: but you have that skin that's stretched out, you know

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Speaker 2: But I guess, I guess the crazy thing is is

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Speaker 2: my phone right now because it's like, who the hell

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Speaker 2: But like, I guess that happens with the facial recognition

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Speaker 2: I guess I never really thought about, but apparently other

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I do find it interesting with a passport though,

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Speaker 1: because you know, like they last for ten years even

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Speaker 1: when you're like a little kid. So I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: girl's age right? Think about dude, listen to hitting one.

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Speaker 1: So this is interesting though, Like you know how there's

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Speaker 1: it's like Me, Gabe, the girls, you, Ricky, momm Louie,

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Speaker 1: I just think that that's really trippy, don't you. I

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Speaker 1: I hate the face recognition software because I first was

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Speaker 2: It's really cool because the woman said, I guess in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess I didn't even think about it.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's interesting though, because sometimes, like even yesterday

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Speaker 2: and I'm like sitting there with no makeup on and

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Speaker 2: was actually when I was pregnant with Lilian, so it's

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Speaker 2: twelve years old, and I was like significantly heavier because

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. It's funny though, because this girl on

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Speaker 2: But god, that's so embarrassing, I know. All right, So

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Speaker 2: let's talk about these TikTok trends that have come up

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Speaker 2: this week again. Every single all of these TikTok trends

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Speaker 2: we could pretty much say from right now. I guess

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Speaker 2: there's good ones that go around like this. My kids

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's better on forever.

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Speaker 2: even applicable to girls. I feel like this is commonly

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Speaker 2: a thing that's going to happen with with boys with

435
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Speaker 2: the like, I just don't see girls being interested in

436
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Speaker 2: like setting their computer on fire or like running up

437
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Speaker 2: to someone's door.

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Speaker 1: And well there will always be a few, but just

439
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Speaker 1: probably statistics.

440
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Speaker 2: Statistically though, it's the accidental injuries and deaths to happen

441
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: way more frequently with with men than women. So but yeah,

442
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Speaker 2: so let's go. Let's go on to a more juici

443
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Speaker 2: or subject, which is a guy that was in secure

444
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: about his penises started doing something very unusual.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Scotland, this anisthesiologist. He's been sentenced to jail

446
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: time after admitting to hiding cameras in his work bathroom

447
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Speaker 1: to compare his penis size to his co workers.

448
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Speaker 2: Like, so, so I guess after this he gets arrested

449
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: in all this stuff and then he says that he

450
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Speaker 2: was diagnosed with body dysmorphia because apparently no.

451
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Speaker 1: First he said he was diagnosed with gigantism and suspected

452
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Speaker 1: suspect that he was diagnosed with suspected gigantism which caused

453
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Speaker 1: the body dysmorphia when he was a teenager, and that

454
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Speaker 1: was the reasoning that he possibly had a small penis

455
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Speaker 1: or something, so like, let's back up, I don't know

456
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Speaker 1: if you ever get diagnosed with suspected gigantism, it is

457
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Speaker 1: there is or it isn't, And it's a growth hormone

458
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Speaker 1: issue when you're a kid. So you you've seen people

459
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Speaker 1: like Andre the Giant and things like that that people

460
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Speaker 1: that have this. So if it happens before your growth

461
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Speaker 1: plates and your bones fused when you're a child, that's gigantism,

462
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Speaker 1: whereas if it happens as an adult or after they fuse,

463
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Speaker 1: that's acromegle. So I'm not sure exactly which condition he

464
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Speaker 1: had if he's saying that he was semi diagnosed or

465
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Speaker 1: suspected diagnosed as a teenager. But the growth hormone could

466
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Speaker 1: cause an abnormal growth, especially in heights. So this is

467
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Speaker 1: when you see these people that are like can be

468
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Speaker 1: up to eight feet tall.

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Speaker 2: It also causes their heart to get larger and other

470
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Speaker 2: organs to get larger, so in theory, like their penis

471
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Speaker 2: could also be larger too, but that doesn't always happen.

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Speaker 2: So if his penis was like a normal size but

473
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Speaker 2: he was seven or eight foot tall, that might look

474
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Speaker 2: disproportionate and might make him think that his penis looks smaller.

475
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Speaker 2: I don't know. But regardless if you have this or not,

476
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: because there's plenty of dudes that have this condition, Like

477
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Speaker 2: that doesn't give you the right to start filming your

478
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Speaker 2: friends and your coworkers to see if your penis is

479
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Speaker 2: the same size as theirs.

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Speaker 1: No, of course not. So he ended up hiding recording

481
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Speaker 1: devices in air fresheners and a smoke alarm in the

482
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Speaker 1: bathroom of his spare bedroom and his house, in addition

483
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Speaker 1: to the bathrooms at his work. He claimed he recorded

484
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Speaker 1: thirty different people and used the footage to compare himself

485
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Speaker 1: to other men, and he committed the acts between November

486
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty and August twenty twenty three. He was only

487
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Speaker 1: caught when one victim became suspicious of two air fresheners

488
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Speaker 1: which appeared to be facing the toilet and shower and

489
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Speaker 1: then open them up and found the devices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like why was he was filming some

491
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Speaker 2: women too?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like so, like your your whole entire argument is just

494
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Speaker 2: like thrown out the window. You're just like a creepy

495
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Speaker 2: PERV Dude's that's all you are. So's he's in trouble though, right.

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Speaker 1: Well, he was suspended from his work as a doctor.

497
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you need to have everything removed. Who is

498
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Speaker 1: going to trust an anesthesiologist after some creepy behavior like this?

499
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Speaker 1: He was sent in stay eighteen months, probation for nine

500
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Speaker 1: months after the release, and then he's only going to

501
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Speaker 1: be a registered sex offender for ten years.

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Speaker 2: Why is there a limit? Yeah, I don't know whether

503
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Speaker 2: it's a limit. I was just gonna say that, like,

504
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: I feel like that could be the biggest deterrent yet

505
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: that you will be forever labeled as a sex offender

506
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Speaker 2: for the rest of your life if you do something.

507
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Speaker 2: But you know that all the people that protect criminals

508
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: will be against that. We actually have We could talk

509
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: about that later with another story we have. I mean,

510
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 2: so he's thirty four years old, so he really like

511
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Speaker 2: when do you think he finished school? It has so

512
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: he hasn't really been a doctor all that long. So

513
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Speaker 2: you just went through all that education. Where what country

514
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Speaker 2: is this in? Did it Scotland? Yeah? I don't know

515
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Speaker 2: what they're because they might not have the same system,

516
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Speaker 2: because I know that there are some countries that, like

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Speaker 2: I believe and I could be wrong, So don't don't

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Speaker 2: quote me on this. But when I was when I

519
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: was working with a lot of residents and stuff, some

520
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: would like come from China and they would become a

521
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Speaker 2: resident in our residency program. But I thought that they

522
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Speaker 2: told me that they went right to medical school after

523
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Speaker 2: high school, so they skip that whole like four year

524
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Speaker 2: college degree in between high school and medical school that

525
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: you would typically do in America. So which would mean

526
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Speaker 2: that those people would be eligible to become doctors four

527
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Speaker 2: years earlier than Americans would. So I don't know, but yes,

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Speaker 2: like you're saying, like if he did the traditional uh

529
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Speaker 2: graduate high school, go to four years of undergrad four

530
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Speaker 2: years of medical school, and then do a residency in

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Speaker 2: Anesesion everything like that, then yes, he would be like

532
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Speaker 2: a very young new attending physician at that point. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, regardless, it doesn't matter, like and that's actually

534
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Speaker 2: even creepier because a person that is willing to record

535
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Speaker 2: people like that, it's scary that they have the knowledge

536
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Speaker 2: to put a person to sleep and possibly do things

537
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Speaker 2: to them when they're asleep, and access to those medications too,

538
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Speaker 2: So yeah, how could you have any trust in somebody

539
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: like that? That should be And like I said, that's

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Speaker 2: in Scotland. Like, I think if that happened in America,

541
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Speaker 2: that he would lose his medical license forever and that

542
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: would be the end of the story, especially it was

543
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: being done at the workplace and all this stuff. But

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Speaker 2: I don't really know how things go down, but he

545
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Speaker 2: should for sure. This episode's brought to you by the

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Speaker 2: Department of Health and Human Services, which I'll referred to

565
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Speaker 2: as j says going forward, has put a pause on

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Speaker 2: research at a major high risk infectious disease lab due

567
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Speaker 2: to multiple safety violations. And the best part of this

568
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Speaker 2: is the investigation stemmed from a lover's spat between two

569
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Speaker 2: of the researchers. Yeah, so let's first talk about labs. Okay,

570
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Speaker 2: because I've worked in a lab my well since I've

571
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Speaker 2: been nineteen years old, and there's all there's there's there's

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Speaker 2: basically four different kinds. They're called biosafety levels for labs.

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Speaker 2: So you have type one, which is like that's doing infections,

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Speaker 2: working with infections that really don't cause disease in healthy adults.

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Speaker 2: It might be just like opportunistic ones or ones that

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Speaker 2: just don't really get most people sick anyway. And then

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Speaker 2: you have level two, which can cause if accidentally inhaled

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Speaker 2: or swallow. Level three, which is even more severe cases

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Speaker 2: like airborne things like TB. So I would say, like

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Speaker 2: the hospital microbiology lab, for example, would be a biosafety

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Speaker 2: level two, and the three would be used was a

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Speaker 2: special room that we used for doing specimens that had

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Speaker 2: potential TB. So that's that's a level three. And then

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Speaker 2: you have the level four, which is what we're talking

585
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Speaker 2: about now with this case, which is diseases that don't

586
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Speaker 2: have any known vaccines or therapies available. So even though

587
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Speaker 2: COVID has a vaccine, we all know that that doesn't

588
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Speaker 2: like really work to prevent it. So that's not considered

589
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Speaker 2: to be a legitimate treatment as far as what went

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Speaker 2: down that there are things that could treat people, but

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Speaker 2: for the most part, it still can be deadly for

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Speaker 2: certain type of patients, but also disease that are really

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Speaker 2: serious like ebola, marburg last of fever, all these different things.

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Speaker 2: So these labs are sometimes they're in specific rooms that

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Speaker 2: are dedicated. Actually they sometimes have isolated zones in specific

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Speaker 2: buildings that are just made for that. You see a

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Speaker 2: lot of it. If you've ever seen like the movie

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Speaker 2: Outbreak or something. You see people going in with these

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Speaker 2: special suits on, and they have to wear special kinds

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Speaker 2: of suits dedicated for this. They have to shower as

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Speaker 2: soon as they exit the lab. They have to go

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Speaker 2: through a series of procedures. They have to be trained

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Speaker 2: in a certain way to deal with these organisms, just

604
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Speaker 2: because if they get released, like it's a problem. And

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Speaker 2: now that we're talking about that, like especially it's been

606
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Speaker 2: in the new is that it's more than likely COVID

607
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: came from a situation like this, that it was released

608
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Speaker 2: from some kind of a lab. People are now like

609
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Speaker 2: really taking this seriously because you see what happened when

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Speaker 2: COVID happened here, right, So we don't want things like

611
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: that ever being exposed, especially when there's there's no treatments

612
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: for these things.

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00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So apparently, like Maria was saying, that there was this

615
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Speaker 2: lover's quarrel and what happened was one of the individual's

616
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Speaker 2: poked holes in one of these protective suits that the

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Speaker 2: other person was putting on to work with one of

618
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Speaker 2: these deadly bacteria or viruses. And it's just so crazy

619
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Speaker 2: to think that this is happening in a situation like this,

620
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: that like this person got fired, right, fine, they should go.

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Speaker 2: They should be arrested for attempted murder, and even more

622
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Speaker 2: because they could have potentially harmed other people if the

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Speaker 2: person that they were having this lover's quarrel with actually

624
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Speaker 2: got infected. With one of these things.

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Speaker 1: Well, again, like how hard do you work to get

626
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Speaker 1: into a facility like this and then you're gonna sabotage

627
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Speaker 1: your entire career and possibly have criminal charges because you

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Speaker 1: had a lover spet. It's ridiculous. And it's not the

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Speaker 1: only incident they've had. They had one as recently, another

630
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Speaker 1: situation as recently as November, so there's multiple.

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Speaker 2: It's psycho dude, Like if you're gonna be poking holes

632
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Speaker 2: and like, let's say you know somebody is working with

633
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Speaker 2: ebola and you're gonna go poke holes in their outfit.

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Speaker 2: The only reason you're doing that is because you want

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Speaker 2: them to catch it. And like those types of things

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Speaker 2: being released, especially like into the United States where we

637
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: don't even have that, and how easily it could spread.

638
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: It's just and how deadly it is. It's just like

639
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: you were thinking about this ahead of time and you

640
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: were trying to kill this person, and it's really gross

641
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: that that happens. But this is the thing, like you

642
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Speaker 2: were saying, yes, these people are sometimes educated, sometimes even

643
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: PhD level microbiologists, epidemiologists and things like that, but everybody

644
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: is just still a human and they you know that

645
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Speaker 2: you could say the number one cause of murder or

646
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: the reason the motive for people murdering people is over love.

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Speaker 1: Right.

648
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: It's a known thing from the beginning of time. And

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how educated you are. I mean, like, look,

650
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Speaker 2: the guy we just talked about was a doctor and

651
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: he was still committing crimes. Like, you're still a human,

652
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: you know, and you have flaws like that, and unfortunately

653
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: this could affect all of us, which is super scary.

654
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 1: Well, I just think of these two nerds in this

655
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: lover's quarrel, right, Oh, they're total nerds. Instead of like

656
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: shooting you or stabbing you or poisoning you something obvious,

657
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna poke tiny holes in your protective

658
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: gear because this person is smart enough to know the

659
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: effect that's going to have. But they're like, the individual

660
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: has since been fired, Okay, what about some criminal charges

661
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: because this could have been the severe harm to society

662
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: and maybe this person shouldn't really be like walking around

663
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: with access to all these diseases. It's very concerning. So

664
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: the HHS has put them on pause. All research at

665
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: the facility will come to a halt and access will

666
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: be limited to essential personnel. The director has also been

667
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: put on leave, and it's unclear how long the pause

668
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: will remain in effect. It's just so concerning that this

669
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: is going down in a place like this.

670
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: I know, but I mean, like, like I said, they're

671
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: humans and that's I mean, it's total like oh like

672
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: nerd party, right, but probably but whatever, like it, they're

673
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: the ones you gotta watch out for because they're smart

674
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: and they could They're not going to do something as

675
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: simple as that. And who knows what you'll ever find

676
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: out about COVID and stuff like that, like what actually

677
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: went down with that and how that got released, But

678
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: like the bottom line is is that that could happen,

679
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 2: and it's freaking we don't want that to happen. Ever again, no,

680
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: definitely not, especially like you're saying, with one of these

681
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: more severe illnesses, like I can't even freaking imagine if

682
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: something like that happened. Well, that's the thing too, because

683
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: COVID I've been saying this from the beginning, like COVID

684
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: was COVID was the perfect one because it disabled our

685
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: country enough to cause it to recab it, but not

686
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: enough to kill a lot of people. And it did

687
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: kill a lot of people, but it really didn't. When

688
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: you think about the capability of other kinds of viruses

689
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: and especially viral infections, it just it didn't come anywhere

690
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: close to being lethal like some other things are. So

691
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: you have to there's always these fear that you like,

692
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: bioterrorism and stuff like that. And I personally think, and

693
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: I've thought this since the beginning, that I think that

694
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: COVID was an act of bioterrorism. But we don't need

695
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: to get into that right now, but there but for sure,

696
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 2: like you think COVID was bad, there's going to there's

697
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: a potential for other viruses to kill everyone, not just

698
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: like certain populations or demographics of people like, but everyone,

699
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: children and adults, higher death rate, and it's just it

700
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: could be really really bad. So and them working on

701
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: these things, they have to be like the top tier

702
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: people in the world that don't let like Petty Lover's

703
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: quarrels get in their way, you know.

704
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely unreal. So when Lauren was

705
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: on last time, we had talked about this firing squad

706
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: death in South Carolina, and now another one has occurred.

707
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: But they're saying this guy was shot two times and

708
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: his autopsy results are indicating that he didn't die right away,

709
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: suffering about thirty to sixty seconds after his death. So

710
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: this firing squad was consisted of three shooters, but they

711
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: only found two bullet holes in the in the person

712
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: that got shot, which is kind of alarming because they're like,

713
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: all right, well, where was the third one? So some

714
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: people are trying to say, oh, well, maybe two people

715
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: shot at the same time and it went through one hole,

716
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: which is like, no, that absolutely did not happen. I

717
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: thought not all of them fired sometimes so nobody or

718
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: they fired, but one was a blank, so nobody really

719
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: knew who was the killer.

720
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: Well, but the thing is is that I don't think

721
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: that was the case here. I think they said that

722
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: there was ammunition in all three weapons, so someone someone

723
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: didn't shoot, which is possible because I guess you could

724
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: imagine that. I don't know how they pick, like who

725
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: is going to how do they pick who is going

726
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: to be the people that shoot, and how they pick

727
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: the people in general, like what are their qualifications. I

728
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: have no idea about any of that stuff. But maybe

729
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: someone like chickened out last minute and just decided that

730
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: they weren't going to be the one that killed this guy,

731
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: like they had this last minute change of heart and thought,

732
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this. But I actually just

733
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: cannot believe that you're high. You have a firing squad

734
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: to kill someone from to execute someone that has committed

735
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: a crime that you're not picking like a perfect sharp shooter.

736
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: There are people in this world that are excellent at

737
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: getting targets. They're saying that they did the autopsy on

738
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: this person and the heart was missed, like it was

739
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: largely missed. They said that there was damage to the

740
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: liver and other internal organs. And I guess we would say,

741
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: like this is if you want to talk about cause,

742
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: like first there's all this like should we do this

743
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: or not? And then oh we should do it humanly

744
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: or not? If you want to take this specific example, though,

745
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why we're so concerned about this guy

746
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: suffering for thirty to sixty seconds he murdered three people,

747
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: including a police officer, Like did he care about them

748
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: suffering when he killed those three people? No? I mean,

749
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing is in this specific article that

750
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: we cite, the whole thing is about like compassion for

751
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: this guy who who like suffered getting executed when they

752
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: didn't say one thing about what he actually was getting

753
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 2: executed for. So let's let's talk about that a little bit.

754
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: He murdered a man following a drug deal gone wrong. Okay, fine,

755
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: and then he robbed and killed a twenty nine year

756
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: old convenience store clerk who had nothing to do with anything.

757
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: So this guy just died because he was in the

758
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: wrong place at the wrong time. And then two days

759
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: later he carjacked demand and stole his car and fled,

760
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: so that's also scary for that guy. And then he

761
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: murdered a fifty six year old off duty police officer

762
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: whose body then he doused in diesel fuel and then burned.

763
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're not talking about somebody that did it

764
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: like a minor crime. This is a murderer.

765
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had a whole other string of lifelong

766
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: crime whatever. But regardless, if we decided in this country

767
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: that we're supposed to induce the least pain on these people,

768
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: then that's the decision and we need to respect that right.

769
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: So why on earth? And obviously we talked we've talked

770
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: about this before on this show, about lethal injection and

771
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: like the autops, so there's always an autopsy down on

772
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: someone when whenever they are are killed by the state,

773
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: there will always be an autopsy done just to document

774
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: everything and to see what happened. And when you talk

775
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: about lethal injection from pentobarbital, these autopsies have shown that

776
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: these people have pulmonary edema, which is fluid that is

777
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: accumulating in the lungs, which shows that there's this sense

778
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: of sensation similar to drowning that they experience for up

779
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: to ten minutes before they actually die. So they're suffering there.

780
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: So then they thought, okay, well let's do firing squad

781
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: because if we shoot someone straight in the heart, then

782
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: like they'll die instantly, right, No, they get people that

783
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: miss the heart. So I mean, right there, you're just

784
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: kind of like, how is this such a shit show?

785
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 2: Like all of the sharpshooters in the world, you cannot

786
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: find somebody that could just shoot this guy in the heart, right,

787
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: And so what happened was he gets shot in the

788
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: liver and other organs and he's alive for thirty to

789
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: sixty seconds. Because what happens is like let's say you

790
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: shoot somebody in the liver right and you last rate

791
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: one of their major arteries. Like, yeah, they're gonna start

792
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: bleeding internally, and that's if you hit a major artery, honestly,

793
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: but they're gonna start bleeding internally, but like their heart's

794
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: still gonna be beating perfectly fine, They're just gonna have

795
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: less blood coming through. They're gonna be completely conscious, aware,

796
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: and in pain the entire time. So and like this

797
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: looks really bad because this was not that this is

798
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: not an instantaneous death like they thought it was gonna be.

799
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: And observers there said that he was squirming and he

800
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: was moaning and complaining, and it's just kind of like listen,

801
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: like if we've made the decision that this is what

802
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: we're going to do, then like I don't understand why

803
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: it's such a shit show.

804
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think somebody didn't do their job. I'm also

805
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: surprised they only shoot one time, that there's only two

806
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: bullets that went in. I just don't think that seems

807
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: effect that. I don't know, something clearly went wrong.

808
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: It's just like you think about hunters can get like

809
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: a deer that's running, Like you have a guy that's

810
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: sitting in front of you with a clear eye and

811
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: he's not a moving target, like it just I really

812
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: just can't believe it. So that makes me wonder, I

813
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: really want to know, like what are what are the

814
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: qualifications of these people that are doing this? Is this

815
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: just like some guard that works there or are they

816
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: I feel like they would get people that are that

817
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: are clear sharp shooters. Now, this guy's lawyer is saying

818
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: that he was there when his client got executed and

819
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: he thought that the target on his chest was a

820
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: little bit too low, which is interesting. Like I just

821
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: I just really don't even understand any of this honestly,

822
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: So it is it is messed up because like if

823
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: if our country has said we're not doing this, then

824
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: like you can't do that. It's it's just more messed

825
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: up because it's a shit show. But honestly, like you know,

826
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: you could say in our opinion, like let's say, for example,

827
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: a guy like raped and killed a kid, Like most

828
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 2: people would agree, like, well, we don't care if somebody

829
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: else rapes and kills that guy, he should suffer just

830
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: like his victim suffered and stuff. But like that that's

831
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: not what we do here, which is probably a good thing.

832
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: But I like, but like who's being sentenced to death?

833
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: That isn't a murdered you know what.

834
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean, people have been sentenced to death that aren't murderers.

835
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: So that's the talking about today.

836
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: I'm saying people in the past have been accused of

837
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: crimes that they didn't commit and have been this This

838
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: is why it's so controversial because like, unless you're one

839
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure, which I'm assuming that it's becoming the

840
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: case more and more today that people are figuring that out.

841
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: But even so, unless I don't know, unless you have

842
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: video of it or evidence of it, you can't. That's

843
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: why it's so controversial because people think, like what I mean,

844
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: there's been people that have been executed that have been innocent,

845
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: and and that's why people are against it. But like

846
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: if we know for certain that this guy did all

847
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: this stuff, then like then yeah, I mean, like I

848
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: don't I mean, you set, you killed a person and

849
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: then put fuel on his body and burned his body.

850
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Like imagine how his family feels.

851
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, And I said this like last week about

852
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: that woman who tied her kid to the bed and

853
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: was beating her cat food and let her pee all

854
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: over the bed. And you know, think about Ruby Frankie,

855
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: who's rubbing Cayenne Pepper and her kid's wounds after she

856
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: beat him. Like to me, people like that deserve worse punishment,

857
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: like not even eye for an eye. They should be

858
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: like set on fire, seriously, like the worst thing ever,

859
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: because who fucking does that?

860
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: Children?

861
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: I know, So I go.

862
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: I really go back and forth because I go back

863
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: and forth because it's like when you're tea, when I'm

864
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: teaching the girls. Let's say, for example, like if someone

865
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: if someone hits you or someone does this, like the

866
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: proper response wouldn't be to tell them to hit the

867
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: kid back, because it just doesn't do anything if somebody's

868
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: mean to you, like, it doesn't it doesn't solve anything,

869
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: like it might temporarily make you feel better. It's sometimes

870
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: it's necessary though, because like let's say a kid's bullying

871
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: you and hitting you all the time and stuff like

872
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: the only the only way to really get them to

873
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: stop is to punch him in the face, right, like whatever,

874
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: It's just it's just like it I don't think that

875
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: it's I don't think that it's like very clear cut,

876
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: and you could go back and forth. We had that

877
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: interview with Matt man Gino talking all about execution. You

878
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: guys should listen to it if you want. God, it's

879
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: from like over a year ago at this point now, right,

880
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: or almost a year ago. It was last August. Yeah,

881
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 2: so last August. But he wrote a book about executions,

882
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: and he's like really versed in it, and and just

883
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: how he thinks that, Like really his opinion after knowing

884
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: all this stuff is just like the death penalty is

885
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: probably terrible, Like it costs a lot of money because

886
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: of all the appeals and this and that. And but

887
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: but like I said, like if our country has decided

888
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: that we're not going to like torture people when we

889
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: are going to kill them, then like clearly they're shit

890
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: in the bed between the you know what I mean,

891
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: between the pentobarbital and now the firing botched firing squad.

892
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: Like I don't understand why it's this is so difficult.

893
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: I just don't understand well everything anymore. We talk about

894
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: this every single day. All right, Let's move on to

895
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 2: Questions of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother

896
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: Knows Death Instagram account, you guys can head over to

897
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: our story and ask us whatever you want. First, Nicole,

898
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: you talk about one of your daughters having some physical challenges.

899
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: I am grappling with the fact that my son may

900
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: have physical delays differences due to birth trauma. How did

901
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: you cope with the news? How are you and she doing?

902
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: How is her life impacted? Yeah, she has She has

903
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: a condition called chronic non infectious osteomilitis, which happened when

904
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: hold she now ten. Yeah, maybe when she was seven.

905
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: She started saying that her knee hurt and then like

906
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: for a week and then I was like, Okay, this

907
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 2: is weird because she doesn't She's not a complaining kid

908
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: like that. And I took her to the doctor and

909
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: he was like, all right, well, I don't see anything wrong,

910
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: but let's just get an X ray. And then it

911
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: all just like went downhill from there. It just was

912
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: like I was on the way home from her getting

913
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: the X ray and they said could she come back

914
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: and get the other leg done? And then I already

915
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 2: knew something was wrong. And I guess the scariest part

916
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: was is that it took it took a very long

917
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: time to get a diagnosis and to start getting treatment

918
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: from it before it because it was right at the

919
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: at the edge of the pandemic and things like that.

920
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: Or during the pandemic, I should say, So that was

921
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: the scariest time because I was getting sent doctor to

922
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: doctor with her and I didn't the location of the

923
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: knee is very suspicious for cancer sometimes and kids, and

924
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: just like the whole thing, Like I just I was

925
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: so scared that she had something really terrible wrong. And

926
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: what she has is pretty terrible and debilitating, but also

927
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's not cancer and it's not

928
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 2: a death sentence and things like that. So we've been

929
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: going through like lots of ups and downs with it.

930
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: The first medicine she went on was Humera and that

931
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: is a biologic injection I had to give her, and

932
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: it it was great, Like we went and got the

933
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: scans done and it looked like her her bone wasn't

934
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: showing any signs of that anymore. And then all of

935
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: a sudden, she started getting this crazy psoriasis all over

936
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: her body from the drug. And then one of them

937
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: got infected so bad. She got this crazy fungal infection

938
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: that wouldn't go away and couldn't be healed, and she

939
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: had to get a biopsy and she possibly needed surgery.

940
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: Like it was just so crazy, and now it finally

941
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: went away, but she has like a huge scar on her,

942
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: like that's going to be there forever, like absolutely huge.

943
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: It looks like she got burned. It's that bad. So

944
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: just dealing with that. And then she got diagnosed with

945
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: scoliosis recently, and then she has to wear this back

946
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: brace every day, which is uncomfortable. It's a it's a

947
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: huge plastic uncomfortable thing, and I just I feel terrible.

948
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: Medications we had to give her the last round was

949
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: another drug that made her like kind of depressed, which

950
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: we didn't realize it, and just injections, and it's just

951
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: been a lot. But she's healthy and she's alive, and

952
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: she goes to school every day and she has friends

953
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: and she gets to play. And so it's like but

954
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: like she even said to me last night, like Mommy,

955
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: it's getting so hot out. How much longer do I

956
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: have to wear this brace? And I just want to

957
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: tell her, like years, I feel tired, Like I can't

958
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: even break it to her and be like you have

959
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: to wear this for years of your life, cause it's

960
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: it's just uncomfortable, Like imagine having a piece of plastic

961
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: wrapped around your body for she has to wear it

962
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 2: at least eighteen hours a day. That means every night

963
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: when she sleeps, and it's just a lot. So the

964
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: thing is for you, it's probably worse for you as

965
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: a parent than it is for the kid, honestly, Like

966
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: kids are like super resilient, and you just sit there

967
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: and you just feel terrible for your kids. So that's

968
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: all I could say to you is just like, try

969
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 2: to take the pain on yourself as much as your kid.

970
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: Your kid'll be fine. Your kid will get through it.

971
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: Like I was crying the night that Lucia when we

972
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: came home with this brace, because I was just thinking, like, God,

973
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 2: I don't even want to like sleep with socks on.

974
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: I hate being uncomfortable while I'm sleeping, and hear this

975
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: kid's gotta wear this thing and she couldn't even turn

976
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: in bed. But I could pose the picture for you

977
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: guys all or I did. I posted it on my

978
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: Instagram and my story last week that she went camping

979
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 2: with her school and she like got to the top

980
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: of this rock climbing wall thing and rang the bell

981
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: and she was wearing her brace. So like kids are

982
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: just super resilient. Things seem like they suck. And then

983
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: they get used to it. And honestly, like I feel

984
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: like when she gets older, she's gonna be like so

985
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: resilient to to like real issues in her life because

986
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: of going through this as a kid. Like she's gonna

987
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, that's nothing, Like she'll think nothing is

988
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: a problem because of it. So try to look at

989
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: it from the positive and and just like you just

990
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: like there's nothing you could deal with it. You just

991
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: have you have to deal with it, and you have

992
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: to help your kid deal with it, and just you know,

993
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: it's always good to bribe them sometimes, like what do

994
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: like when she had to start getting shots, you know,

995
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: I would say, okay, like I'll take you to support

996
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: and get whatever you want, or she wanted like one

997
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 2: of these giant uh squish mellow things and just stuff

998
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: like that, like you know, from time to time, or

999
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: I'll go up to her recently and I was like, listen,

1000
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: you're doing really good with your brace. I'm so proud

1001
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: of you. Like let me get you some roblocks money

1002
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: or something like that, like just little incentives to be

1003
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: like listen, like I like always let them know that

1004
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: they're doing a good job.

1005
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, and of course we're sorry you're

1006
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: going through that. And obviously, like you can speak from

1007
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: your experience how hard that is. I think Lucia is

1008
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: so strong watching her every day, I mean, she doesn't

1009
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: take any shit from anybody, and that's obvious. And she's

1010
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: just been so good about the entire thing, you know. Yeah,

1011
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: and it's and and that's how I was kind of

1012
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: keyed off that her medication was causing her to have

1013
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: depression because I was like, she hasn't typically seemed like

1014
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: this has been bothering her, and now all of a sudden,

1015
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: like she's acting a little weird. And the medication that

1016
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: she was on was called Method Trecks eight. It's not

1017
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: a drug that you would typically think had anything to

1018
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: do with depression, but sure enough, there's like lots of

1019
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: papers written on it that it does cause that reaction.

1020
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: So that's another advice I have to you, is like,

1021
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, your doctors are gonna want to put the

1022
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: kid on all these medicines and stuff, and sometimes you

1023
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: don't really have a choice. Because with us, it was

1024
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: like she hasked to take these medicines or her leg

1025
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: might stop growing and then she's going to have to

1026
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: get surgeries because one of her legs is shorter than

1027
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: the other leg and this because it was right around

1028
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: her growth plate. And that's a tough decision to make

1029
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: as a parent, like, Okay, put my kid on this

1030
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: hardcore drug, or like her leg's going to stop growing

1031
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: and there's all that other stuff that comes along with it.

1032
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: But just like if you if you see something that's abnormal,

1033
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to push a little bit more because

1034
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: your doctors only sees you like once every couple of

1035
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: months at the appointment where you're with the kid every day,

1036
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: So like, if their body doesn't seem right or their

1037
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: mind doesn't seem right, you have to question it all

1038
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: right too. What plastic surgery have you had and would

1039
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: you consider getting more? If so? What? Well this question

1040
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: is for you because I haven't even done both ox

1041
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: or anything.

1042
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well I I had a Tommy talked on and

1043
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: it was it was awesome. I recommend it. I like, well,

1044
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: the surgery that I had yesterday was definitely not plastics,

1045
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: but I would get my neck done probably. Listen, like,

1046
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: but what if it.

1047
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: Looks like Kim Kardashian's just like this mech galaxy exactly.

1048
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: And this is what scares the shit out of me

1049
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: because when I look at like, let me tell you

1050
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: my inspose and halfaway Jesus, like, she looks so freaking

1051
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: good whatever she had, whatever she had done. And the

1052
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: same with your girl. Uh, what's the other one, Lindsay Lohan.

1053
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like if if you could say to me

1054
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 2: like that surgeon is doing your face, I'd be like,

1055
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: I'll be there tomorrow, just like they're like probably I

1056
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: know they are, and that's never going to happen to me.

1057
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: But then like this video has been going around with

1058
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian at the Mechalet and her neck looks terrible,

1059
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: and I think it's because like she probably had some

1060
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: of her face lifted, but maybe not her neck. Whatever

1061
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: it is, it looks like weird and that scares me.

1062
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: So then that makes me think, Okay, I probably just

1063
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 2: won't ever do anything because I'm too scared, unless I

1064
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 2: could definitely find like a perfect surgeon or something. Because

1065
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: when I look at Anne Hathaway, I'm just like, she

1066
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: just looks like I like her look because she doesn't

1067
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: have that gross, like fake bulbous look. Whatever they did

1068
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: to her. I think a lot of Uh, it's very popular, right,

1069
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: now to get this like eyelid surgery, and I think

1070
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: so many I see so many people with it that

1071
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: I think it looks so terrible, and I'm like, I

1072
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 2: I'll deal with my sagging eyelids. I just don't want

1073
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: to have that look. I don't know if you know

1074
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: the look I'm talking about. It just looks like their

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00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: eyes are open way too much and they have people

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00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: put like way too much filler or something on their cheeks,

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Speaker 2: and they just have this very like deer in headlights

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00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: kind of a look or something. I don't know. It's

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Speaker 2: just like I don't I don't want to look like

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00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: I've had work done. So I'm open to it, but

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Speaker 2: I don't have any I don't have any plans for it.

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Speaker 2: I would say, all right, Las Maria, what does the

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Speaker 2: queue stand for? Well, it's for my maiden name, Qualitiri.

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Speaker 1: And my maiden name is not Anne Jemmy. So I

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00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: think somebody last week was like, why don't you just

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00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: keep fan Jemmy's because you're both aunt Jemmy. I was

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00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: not an aunt Jimmy, so didn't make but it's my

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00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: it's my maiden name though, so it's she's she's a quality. Yeah,

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00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: like it's it's my last name, my first last name. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: unconventional to not have my dad's name as my maiden name,

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00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: but it was for your maiden name. So I really

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00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: liked my last name, so I wanted to keep it

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00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: in some capacity. And there's you know, very few Maria

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Speaker 1: qualities in the world, but there was many Maria Kanes

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00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: in the world. So it's like, what can I do

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00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, stand like stand out. So

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Speaker 1: I did that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm middle name, like we had. It is hard

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Speaker 2: when you're when you're getting married and changing your last

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: name because our last name was very cool and unique,

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00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 2: a unique letter, so whenever we needed to get monogram stuff,

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00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: it's like a Q as coal and it's it is

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00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: like a really unusual thing when you're gonna change your

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00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: last name. But then, like Anne Jemmy was equally as

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00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: cool to me, so I was okay with it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if Gabe's last name was Kane, would we

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00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: might have had to have a conversation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys always joke that Kine is playing

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: whatever you're saying.

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Speaker 2: The kids Kane. The kids say Kane is plain.

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Speaker 1: Listen, my last name is great because it's very neutral

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Speaker 1: and everybody could pronounce it and spell it, whereas quality

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00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: people see the queue and they're just like, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know where to go from here. It was nuts.

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00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: People pronounced my last name wrong all the time. It's yeah,

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00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: it is crazy, but yeah, I know it is easy

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00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: because then if you're just sitting there, you could just

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00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: be like, oh, it's Kane, Like it's it's easy. You

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00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: don't have to explain yourself or whatever. But but yeah,

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Speaker 2: so she kept the cue. I probably should have too,

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: but whatever, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I liked that last name and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to keep some part of it because you know it,

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00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: it's funny. I referred to my name and just like

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Speaker 1: the rebrand because I had to like switch everything and

1126
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: now I were like, hey, initials and stuff. But it

1127
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: is funny because you're like this whole identity for how

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00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: el is that when I got married like twenty seven,

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00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: so twenty seven years, I'm like this whole identity and

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00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you have just like a

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00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: different name for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: I'm not into like so I was into like wearing.

1133
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: I used to have this really remember that cool bracelet

1134
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: I had from anthro forever before it broke that had

1135
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: like a really cool Q and cursive on it, Like,

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00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't I won't do an A now because it's

1137
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: a boring letter. So I'm like over the monogram. It's

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00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: kind of like whatever.

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: Well maybe I'm just into it right now because it's

1140
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: like new for me, you know, and Q is like interesting,

1141
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: but I like it all right. Well, thank you guys

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1148
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy

1149
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1150
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,120
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