1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, you're welcome to stuff to blow 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: your mind. My name is Robert Lamb and my name 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: is Julie Douglas. Julie, we are both warm blooded creatures, 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: and as we know, warm warm bloodedness comes with a 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: certain price. It's a high level of energy consumption. So 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: what do we what do we do if we don't 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: have energy to consume to feed our body? Well, take 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: it down? Yeah? Or or will we die? That's all possibility. 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: The idea behind hibernation itself is that you have to 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: cut the costs. You have to spiral down, like like 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: a business that test of lay off a bunch of 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: people and close one of its stores to survive a recession. 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Or the example that always comes to my mind when 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I was younger and I was living in Tennessee, I 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: found myself in a car a lot and I would 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: often listen to I think the guy's name was Dave Ramsey, 18 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: who is this kind of like local Locally here in 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta we have Clark Howard, who's like the the economic 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: guru that tells you how to you know, get out 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: of credit and how to fine tune your financial situation. 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: He's wonderful, by the way, Yeah, yeah, he is Clark 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: how it is wonderful. But I remember listening to the 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Dave Ramsey Show at this point and he was always 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: advising people and how to get out of credit card debt. 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: And he would say, all right, you're just gonna eat 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: rice and beans for a year, so you can do. 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: You eat rice and beans and cancel cable. And that 29 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: is kind of what hibernation is about our version at least. Yeah, 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: it's it's about cutting down that the energy consumption, cutting 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: down the level of life that is being lived by 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: the organism so that it can survive conditions that would 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: otherwise be lethal. Well, and I've actually read before to 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: that there are certain places in the world before the 35 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: advent of electricity and so on technology that, say you 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: were in Siberia, winter comes and a family of five 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: probably will have a sort of hibernation period. Of course, 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: they're going to have food available to them that they've 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: stalked away, but there's not a lot of reason to 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: go outside for months. And it always reminds me of 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: the Charlie and Chocolate Factory movie where you see the 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: family the entire family in the bed because you know, 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: they're all trying to keep warm it's winter, they're trying 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: to conserve resources. So this idea of hibernation, at least 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: in humans. Yes, we we don't completely close down our 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: heartbeat or I'm sure those people didn't back in the 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: day and Siberia, but there's a version of it in 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: which we have tried to batten down the hatches when 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: it comes to energy consumption. It sounds like it's a 50 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: great opportunity for board games and family use of board games. 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Maybe that's only they have far better board games in 52 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: Europe and all the great board games come out of Europe. 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how you think like 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Siberia would would well know when they're well no, no, 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: but literally, let's talk about these animals who do it right, 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: who do it straight up right. One of the most 57 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: important things to realize is that hypernation is not sleep. 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: In fact, according to zoo physiologist Brian Barnes, it's kind 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: of the the sit of sleep. He argues that instead 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: of a blissful slumber, because let's face it, sleep is 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: pretty much the best right if you can, if you 62 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: can actually achieve it and you don't have any issues 63 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: getting there, you're not plagued by nightmares in which dogs 64 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: all your face then, or you're you're back in college 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: and you didn't know you had an exam. You thought 66 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: you'd cancel the class. All that. If you can actually 67 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: achieve good old sleep, it's the best in a cozy, 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: warm cloud, right, So the idea of like, oh, this 69 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: winter sucks, I would be nice if I could just 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: sleep through it and wake up when it's warm or whole. 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: I really don't want to travel all the way across country. 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: It wouldn't it be great if I could just go 73 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to sleep and wake up and be there. But Barnes 74 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: argues that it's not like this, So hibernating squirrels, for example, 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: would be stuck in something that would be more like 76 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: months of insomnia. So it would feel like long stretches, 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: he says, of icy stupor punctuated by short, costly naps like. 78 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: The idea here is that their energy level is down 79 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: and metabolism is down. Everything is taken down to the 80 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: level to where sleep is even possible. They have to 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: power things up a bit to actually sleep. They have 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: to start turning on the lights in the abandoned wings 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: of the hotel just to get to that level where 84 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: that the animal can rest well, isn't there. I believe 85 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: I read something to you about um after bears come 86 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: out of hibernation that there's a very long period where 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: they have a sort of sleep hangover, and they it's 88 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: almost like sleep deprivation, same thing, right, like, you're not 89 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: you're not necessarily having a nice, big, cozy sleep. You're 90 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of coming out of the fog and re entering 91 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: yet another fog. And it cost energy to come out 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: of that. The ground spirrels, for example, they undergo cyclical 93 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: rewarmings during this hibernation process and it costs more than 94 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: the squirrels stored body fat to do that. Of course 95 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: worth noting. Even though we're talking mostly about warm blooded animals, 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: and indeed we are warm blooded animals, hibernation also occurs 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: in reptiles, cold blooded creatures, where it's called brumation. It 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: differs from the mammalian hibernation because reptiles, again are cold blooded. 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: They can't control their own body temperature, so they need 100 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: to spend the enter in a place where they'll stay 101 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: reasonably warm. It's not always a situation of something surviving 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: at cold temperatures. There's also something called estivation, and this 103 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: is where an animal enters a hibernation like state during 104 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: the summer, often in situations where there's less available water 105 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: and moisture. Yeah, right, because conditions become really hot and dry. 106 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: So that's in addition to maybe your food supply dwindling 107 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: in that area as well. But for the most part, 108 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: hibernation and as we understand it is considered a torpor state. 109 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: It's basically an umbrella term to describe all the various 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: types of temperature and metabolism reducing functions that are involved 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: in hibernation. Yep, that's right. So think about torpor in 112 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: terms of oxygen consumption, which can fall as low as 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: one percent of resting metabolic rate and core body temperatures 114 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: to near or below freezing temperatures, heart rate drops who 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: is little as two point five percent of its usual 116 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: level of chipmunk's heart rates flows to five beats per 117 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: minute from the usual two hundreds. Like you said, breathing 118 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: rate drops by fift a dred percent, which is just crazy. 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: So you know you have a reptiles out there, they 120 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: go hibernation period without breathing. Yeah, and then in many 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: cases we're also talking to about consciousness is greatly diminished. 122 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: So even though this for instances squirrel is in this 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: weird andsomnia state, uh, it doesn't mean it's just completely 124 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: conscious either, so which I don't think necessarily sweetens the deal. 125 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of this uncomfortable semi conscious state, which is 126 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: a far cry from the oh I'm going to have 127 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: a long winter snap and wake up. Yeah. Yeah, I 128 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: mean it does kind of feel like, oh man, I 129 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: am trapped in this body and I don't get any 130 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: of the great benefits here. Of course, you know we're 131 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: from rising a little bit here. Another thing that's happening 132 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: is the body fat, which we know is packed with energy, 133 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: is burned off to provide energy that an animal needs 134 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: to maintain levels of body functions. And this can be 135 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: really efficient. And again we've got our Arctic ground squirrels 136 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: and they live entirely off a stored body fat as 137 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: long as in nine months. So you have glands in 138 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: the body that are altering the amounts of hormones that 139 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: are released to control just about every physiological aspect of hibernation. 140 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: And and when a mammal warm blooded animal. Inners hibernation, 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: it's essentially becoming like a cold blooded animal. It cranks 142 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: down the temperature, but it has a set point in mind. 143 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: And you can think of this like a setting on 144 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: your thermostat. Right. Let's say you're cutting energy consumption during 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: the winter. You're only willing to let the house get 146 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: so cold because if you know, if it gets colder 147 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: than this set point, it's going to start getting uncomfortable. 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: Uh and and and you'd rather not live that way. 149 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: So in this case, there's a set point because if 150 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: things get much lower, the creature may not be able 151 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: to live. So the set point will be there, and 152 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: it's things that get colder. If it starts to drop 153 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: below that set point, then the energy will crank up. 154 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: It will use some of those fat reserves to keep 155 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: it at a tolerable level. Right, So each animal has 156 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: its own little thermostat essentially. And you're probably wondering what 157 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: about defecation. Oh I was wondering that, Yes, yeah, yeah, well, 158 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: no fecal matter is produced because nothing's passing through the 159 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: dieg just shut that wing of the operation down. That's right, 160 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: talking too much money, using too much energy. We haven't 161 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: got it, shut it down. No pooping, no pooping, But 162 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: the body is always producing urea, which we know is 163 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: a waste by product of urine and hibernating animals, bodies 164 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: are able to recycle the urea. Whoa, So that's that's 165 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: pretty cool, right, because yeah, I mean, have you ever 166 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: like in the middle of nights, man, I really don't 167 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: want to get up and get at the bathroom. I mean, 168 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: that would be a good feature. I wish I could 169 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: just I mean, you know, do you actually try to like, 170 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: let me just try and focus and I do idea 171 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: trying to lucid dream it. Bears don't urinate at all 172 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: in the winter, but they break the urea down into 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: amino acids. And even though they don't drink any water, 174 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: they don't get dehydrated either. They're able to extract enough 175 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: water from their own body fat to stay hydrated. And 176 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: here's another really cool thing. This is specific to black bears. 177 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: They have a unique feature and that they actually continue 178 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: to form bones by keeping their calcium levels calibrated in 179 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: their blood levels. And researchers believe that it's the secretion 180 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: of a hormone called paraphormorn and that's the reason why 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: the calcium is recycled, and there are a bunch of 182 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: clinical trials in which they are using the human version 183 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: of that hormone and giving it to patients with osteoporosis. 184 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: So that's that's something that they're trying to crack there 185 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: with those blood bears. Like, why in the world would 186 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: they be actually forming new bone while they are hibernating 187 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: or anything, right, right, I mean think about ourselves. I 188 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: think if we've ever been waylaid by something and you're 189 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: in the hospital for two weeks with a cast on, 190 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: your body loses bone in calcium. So yeah, just from 191 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: that little bit of atrophy. You have other species that 192 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: basically enter this hope or state on a daily basis, 193 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: which is always amazing. Hummingbirds for example, Like hummingbirds are 194 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: are huge energy users. We discussed before. I think just 195 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: just how much energy a hummingbird uses, and and that's 196 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: whine Flapping wings are really not that that economic of 197 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: a system, but nature cannot make a propeller, so it's 198 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: stuck with flapping wings. Yeah, the heartbeats per second. Yeah, 199 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's in same because I have to use 200 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: an immense amount of energy and if they can't get 201 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: the energy they need on a daily basis, they will 202 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: just shut it down every day for a little bit. 203 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: So they'll shut things down like temperature will drop in 204 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: a hummingbird on a regular basis, just to maintain Think 205 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: of it as a business. As an energy consumption has 206 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: become more of an issue. You have various buildings that 207 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: will say on weekends, only have a certain portion of 208 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: the office that is air conditioned, and if you're coming 209 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: into work on the weekends, you need to relocate to 210 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: a certain portion of the building every day. Even it's saying, 211 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: all right, well during this time, we're gonna have to 212 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: shut it down a little because we cannot maintain the 213 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: energy costs involved in keeping this level of consumption up 214 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: minute to minute. That is an incredible ability to have. 215 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: And you know is joking saying that we're morphizing this, 216 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: but we can't help it to project our own idea 217 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: onto this and say, could could be actually harness this 218 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: for ourselves. And we're gonna take a quick break and 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: when we get back, we'll talk about this possibility of 220 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: humans hibernating. All right, we're back, So human hibernation. There 221 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 1: are two huge areas where we could use this. One, 222 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: of course, is space travel, because space is huge. It 223 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: takes a long time to get anywhere. With our current 224 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: understanding of how physics work and how a space propulsion 225 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: can work, they're very shortcuts in mind. But for the 226 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: most part, we're looking at long travels, travels in most 227 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: cases that are longer than the span of human lifetime. 228 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: So is there a way to suspend animation? Is there 229 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: a way to shut things down and preserve human life 230 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: across these vast distances, Because again, it's not only a 231 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: situation of like, oh, I don't want to sit there 232 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: and take that toes for you know, the length of 233 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: a journey. Again, hopefully they would have some quality European 234 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: board games aboard that space ship. But but then also 235 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: do we have the energy required in the resources to 236 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: keep people engaged in an everyday level of activity in 237 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: life over the course of a long voyage. Cheaper better 238 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: to turn them into low energy cargo for that duration. 239 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: The other huge area, of course is healthcare. All right, 240 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: so we have somebody who has a disease that cannot 241 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: yet be cured, or an injury that needs to be addressed, 242 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: Say someone's injured out in the middle of nowhere, and 243 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: you need to get them to a quality medical facility, 244 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: and it's going to be a day's journey or more. 245 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I need to put them in a hibernated state, and 246 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: potentially you could take this low energy cargo move it 247 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: to the facility where they can actually treat the injury 248 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: and take care of things there. Another example is, say 249 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: someone suffered oxygen starvation to the brain through a stroke 250 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: or heart attack. They could actually be put into the 251 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: suspended animation and lower their oxygen to man and prevent 252 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: brain damage. Right. Time is of the essence in these situations. 253 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: So if you could shut things down and sort of 254 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: contain the situation just long enough to get in there 255 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: and do something about and that would be huge. So 256 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where one of the ideas 257 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: is very far reaching and super future of mankind and 258 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: our most cosmic visions, and the other is every day 259 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: people having strokes every day and and what can we 260 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: do to mitigate that? Yeah, and at the crops of 261 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: this is our metabolic right, right, our basil metabolic right, 262 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: which is pretty standard in humans. We don't have these 263 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: tip offs and our circadian rhythms to say, hey, guess what. 264 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: We're taking it down to the studs today. Go in 265 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: your cave. Um, we're pretty regular when it comes there 266 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: as basil metabolic rate unless you're like a super yogi, right, 267 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: and you can you can tinker with it a bit. 268 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: You could, you know, decent parlor tricks and opportun you 269 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: were dead for eighteen hours or something when in fact 270 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: you were not, but you had again taken down your 271 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: breathing and your heart rate. Okay, so beyond a yogi, 272 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: what are we thinking about here? Well, they're basically looking 273 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: at ways to either use temperature or chemicals to force 274 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: a hibernative state on human beings. And we are certainly 275 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: not there yet, but but a number of experiments have 276 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: been conducted. Mostly these are involving animals, and we're looking 277 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: at ways, all right, can we take animals, either hibernating 278 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: animals or non hibernating animals, tinker with them either with 279 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: temperature or chemicals, and force a hibernative state. Biologists at 280 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: the Institute of Arctic Biology and Fairbanks, Alaska are particularly 281 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: interested in this. They do a lot of inquiries into 282 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: how Arctic ground squirrels behave and how the hibernate They 283 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: point out that artic ground squirrels, like us, like all animals, 284 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: produce a molecule called a denazine, which slows nerve cell activities. 285 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: So when a squirrel begins to hibernate, even when you 286 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: or I feel drowsy, that's what it is. That's what's 287 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: going on. So they buys a number of experiments where 288 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: they took non hibernating Arctic ground squirrels and they gave 289 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: them a substance that stimulated a denazine receptors in the brain. 290 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: And then they also gave a substance similar to caffeine 291 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: to arouse other squirrels. And I mean to rouse them 292 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: from there, not to yeah, yeah, not to arouse them sexually. 293 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: So in this same way that a denazine is involved 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: in that drowsy feeling you're getting, we're also counteracting it 295 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: when we run for that cup of coffee or that 296 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: discussing energy. That's right, I mean that splits the binding point, right. 297 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: It basically says, I guess what you're not going to 298 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: bind here, I'm caffeine. I'm waking this person back up, 299 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: which I thought was fascinating. I mean, we know, obviously, 300 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: we know that caffeine purchase up, but to know that 301 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: it works that specifically, and in these experiments they were 302 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: able to activate a denazine receptors in sufficient enough manner 303 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: to induce this hibernative state in these Arctic ground squirrels 304 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: during the hibernation season. A small experiment in some senses, 305 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're not certainly it's not the same as say, oh, 306 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: we put a human into hibernative state. In this case, 307 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: we took the ground squirrel and we're able to induce hibernation. 308 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: And it's actually rather big. I mean, it's one of 309 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: the steps that could conceivably lead us to being able 310 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: to create this effect in humans. Right. Another really good 311 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: example is I keep thinking of it as pet cemetery. 312 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: I have to say the zombie dogs. This is from 313 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: the Safar Center for Resuscitation Research at the University of Pittsburgh. 314 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: They put dogs in a state of suspended animation by 315 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: flushing out their bodies of blood, taking out their blood 316 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: and replacing it with forty five degree fahrenheit saline solution 317 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: that contained oxygen and glucose. The dogs went into cardiac 318 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: arrest and they clinically died right after three hours. The 319 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: team withdrew the solution, so they reversed this process. They 320 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: reintroduced the blood and then applied to gentle electric shock 321 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: and the dogs were raised from the dead. Yeah, there 322 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: was a similar experiment that was conducted by surgeon at 323 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: the Messacuset General Hospital in Boston, Like I'm in the 324 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: name of Hassan Alam, and he tested the technique about 325 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: two hundred times on pigs with a success rate, and 326 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: it basically involved putting the animal under draining out some blood. 327 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: In this case, he'd used cuts and major veins to 328 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: stimulate the multiple gunshot wounds, so he was trying to 329 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: create the situation of fatal or life threatening injury. And 330 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: then as the pig rapidly loses about half its blood 331 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: and there is a state of shock, dr Alam would 332 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: drain the blood store it before pumping this chilled organ 333 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: preservation fluid into its system. Than the animal's temperature falls 334 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: to about tend to be celsius until it enters this 335 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: state of profound hypothermia, and then later they are able 336 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: to put the blood back in and restore the pig 337 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: to life. Yeah, and again, it's not about terrorizing dogs 338 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: and pigs. It's about trying to create these trauma situations 339 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: that might happen in a hospital and giving doctors an 340 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: alternative in terms of trying to extend the life period 341 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: and be able to take out all the tools in 342 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the arsenal to help that person. And speaking about apthermia, 343 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: it just made me think about cell biologist Mark Roth. 344 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: He has a great ted talk about this about suspended animation. 345 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: He may be the furthest along I think in trauma 346 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: medicine in terms of looking at ways that we can 347 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: play with hibernation. He was inspired by a skier in 348 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Norway who was trapped in the icy waterfall for two 349 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: hours before she was extracted. She had no heartbeat and 350 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: she was thought to be frozen dead. Seven hours later, 351 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: still without a heartbeat, they brought her back to life 352 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: and she went on to be the head radiologist at 353 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: that hospital later on. Roth was always amazed by this, 354 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: and he wondered, if there's some agent in our bodies 355 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: that we make ourselves that we might be able to 356 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: regulate our own metabolic rate. Okay, So he was like, 357 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: is there some sort of flexibility here that we don't 358 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: know about that the skier unwittingly tapped into And normally 359 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: you would say this would be a fool's arranty even 360 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: try to mess with our metabolic rate in this way. 361 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: But he just kept picking up the problem, picking at 362 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: the problem, and he was watching like Nova or something 363 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: one night and they were talking about hydrogen sulfide and 364 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: he had that kind of ding ning moment where he's like, yes, 365 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: that's the thing in our body that we actually do produce, 366 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: albeit in small amounts. And he started to think, could 367 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: it cause oxygen to not bind like a kind of 368 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: game of musical chairs, leading to UH to not consume 369 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: that oxygen and then by reducing our demand for oxygen. 370 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: So he decides to start administering hydrogen sulfide to mice 371 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: and thin again and put it in the cold environment 372 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: because he thinks that there's something key to this cool 373 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: environment that happened with the skier. And indeed, then Mike 374 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: started stopped moving, appeared dead. Oxygen consumption rate fell by tenfold. 375 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: So this again, this is really important, right because we 376 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: don't have brains to starve from lack of oxygen. But 377 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: he says, this is the real kicker. That hydrogen sulfide 378 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: is rapidly metabolized. So if you were dosed with US 379 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: after six hours of d animation. All you would have 380 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: to do is be put out into room air and 381 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: warm up and you would be, in his words, none 382 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: the worse for wear. So and one model of heart 383 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: attack animals were given the hydrogen sulfide and they showed 384 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: a seventy percent reduction and heart damage compared to those 385 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: who got the standard of care that you and I 386 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: were to receive if we were to have a heart 387 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: attack here today. And the same is true for organ failures. 388 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: So when you have a loss of function and going 389 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: to poor profusion of kidney or liver, you have damage 390 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: that suffered. So in two he started human trials and 391 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: he says that we're on the path of really understanding 392 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: this metabolic flexibility and the not too distant future we 393 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: could have e m T s actually giving people this 394 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: hydrogen is fullified and extending the their lives possibly you know, 395 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: so you know, if you were in an emergency situation, 396 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: you're being transported, you might be able to be put 397 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: under in this suspended animation and not have any ill 398 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: effects to your tissue. Well, that one of the take 399 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: comes here for me is that suspended animation induced human hibernation. 400 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: It may look easy in some of our sci fi visions, 401 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: many of our sci fi visions where it's just kind 402 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: of a plot something to move the plot around long 403 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: and somehow make vast distances traversible by humans. You know, 404 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: it's just a matter of Sigourney Weaver putting on your 405 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: sexiest underwear and climbing into a pot. Right. But but 406 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: but like the idea that it wouldn't just be Sigorny 407 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: Weaver in sexy underwear, it would be Sigourney Weaver in 408 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: a sosomniatic state, uncomfortably semi conscious for this long stretch 409 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: of time, you know, or or the possibility that you 410 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: would have to take Siggorny Weaver's blood out and put 411 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 1: some sort of saline chill solution in there instead. So 412 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a less attractive scenario when you're 413 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: talking about Sigorny where you're talking about the Riley character 414 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: and not Gus. That's I don't don't, don't don't ring 415 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: bullets of pony with your eyes. Yeah, but no, no 416 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: Ripley in an alien it's it is it is early 417 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: in the morning. Now, there have been some other There 418 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: are just as many sci fi visions of induced tibernation 419 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: that are far more in a centur realistic but certainly Nightmarrick. 420 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: For instance, Dan Abnett had a novel called Zenoes. It 421 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: was forty k novels he did that there was a 422 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: situation in that where he describes a planet that during 423 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: the course of its orbit, it enters a stage where 424 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: it's just too frigid on the planet for people to live, uh, 425 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, energy consumption wise in terms of the civilization, 426 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: but also on a personal level. So most of the 427 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: population goes into a state of hibernation. And this book, 428 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: it opens with this action scene in which a villain 429 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: has woken everyone up prematurely, and so like thousands of 430 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: people are dying in their hibernation pots because it's such 431 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: a medically tinkered state that if you come out of 432 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: it without the aid of a physician, you're you're kind 433 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: of boned. So so that that that comes to mind. 434 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Another title that comes to mind is the Worthing Saga 435 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: over the Worthy Chronicle by Orson Scott Card, the author 436 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: of Indur's Game, and this was material that was based 437 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: on an earlier novel he put out called Hot Sleep, 438 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: And in this he has this concept of what they 439 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: call hot sleep because the individuals are traveling across vast 440 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: distances and to do so, they are put into this 441 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: state of artificial hibernation by the use of this drug 442 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: called stomach As it turns out, though they call it 443 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: hot sleep because the individual actually undergoes this very uncomfortable 444 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: like heated, sweaty, increased temperature situation. I'm not sure how 445 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: that would work science wise, but the idea is that 446 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: the hibernation process is very uncomfortable and lasts for a 447 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: very long time, so they actually have to wipe your 448 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: memory before you go into it, store that memory digitally, 449 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: and then put it back into your head after erasing 450 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: the trauma of the hot sleep experience. If you haven't 451 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: read those and certainly if your Fano Mendor's game and 452 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: haven't explored other orson Scott card books, I highly recommend 453 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: the Worthing sorry, because he does all sorts of interesting 454 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: things with the concept of of so much induced hibernation, 455 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: and you have individuals in society who can afford it, 456 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: who start using this artificial hibernation technology to leap frog 457 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: across the centuries, so they can't actually extend human life, 458 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: but you're only able to live a certain amount of days, 459 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: but you can spread those days out through even century 460 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: long periods of artificial hibernation. Well, that's what mark Roth 461 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: is pointing to. He is actually saying that suspended animation 462 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: is tapping into immortality, which is really interesting. Of course, 463 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: in the way we've just grabbed it here we're talking 464 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: about hours, but who knows what the promises in the 465 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: future for extending that out for days years? I don't know. 466 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: And I was actually thinking about Aubrey de Gray again, 467 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: the bearded one who the bio gerontologists, who talks about 468 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: how the first person to live to be five hundred 469 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: years has already been born, and that we can basically 470 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: maintain ourselves like a good vintage car, and we have 471 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: the technology to do it. If you're going to do that, 472 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: then hey, maybe you want to take five years out 473 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: in your five hundred years of living. Hey, go ahead, 474 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: suspend animation, animate me for five years. That's fine. Cool. Well, hey, 475 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: we're on board with that. Yeah, I'm on board with it. Well, 476 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: how about the rest of you. If you have any 477 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: cool examples of induced human hibernation from science fiction that 478 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: you would like to point out right in, let me 479 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: know about it and I'll bring it up on the podcast. 480 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: Or if you have just general thoughts about the hibernation 481 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: in general in animals and how it might affect human life. 482 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: What if you could hybernate? 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