1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Here's the story that should have happened. Spent Lana alle 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Lujeva flees the Soviet Union memoir and toe launches a 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: mad cap multi country defection, negotiates a record breaking book 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: deal that gets her to America, and arrives with fanfair 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: at JFK. Triumphant music plays, everybody cheers, and we fade 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: to black credits roll. But I hate to break it 7 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: to you. This happiness is not going to last, and 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: the chaotic journey that follows her triumph and arrival is 9 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: the one we're gonna go on. Just a few days 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: after landing speed, Lana gives a press conference at the 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Plaza Hotel, with four hundred reporters crammed into the chandeliered 12 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: colonnaded terrace room, eager to learn every detail of her 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: wild defection. It needs the longest explanation, and I hope 14 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: you will read my book this autumn and many things 15 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: you will find there. My only plan is to leave 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: without any political activities here and to do my work, 17 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: which is writing, which I am happy finally to be 18 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: able to do peace quiet writing well. St that Lana 19 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: finally get the life she's been yearning for, or will 20 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: she be tormented endlessly by an American media that turns 21 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: against her, by the silence of her children who she 22 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: left behind, and by the rejection of a new lover, 23 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: which leaves her devastated beyond belief, such that this mild mannered, 24 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: middle aged woman ends up standing outside in the middle 25 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: of the night, in the middle of New Jersey, bashing 26 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: her fist through a window, shattering the glass and screaming 27 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: at the top of her lungs covered in blood. My 28 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: name is Dan Katrocer, and this is spent Lana. Sped Lana. 29 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: You wake up in the morning, you live your day, 30 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: and then you do it tomorrow, and over and over again, 31 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: and over again, and over and over again. Act one, 32 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: lost in translation. After the high of her insane escape 33 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: wears off, sped Lana is left to grapple with a 34 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: stark new reality. She's a former princess in a new country, 35 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: on her own for the first time in her life, 36 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: without her friends and most painfully, without her children. They 37 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: knew nothing about my plans. We lived very good life. 38 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: We were attached to each other. It was quite difficult 39 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: for me to decide to leave them. I hope that 40 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: they will understand me spent. Lana writes to her one 41 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: year old son Joseph and sixteen year old daughter Yakatarina. 42 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: She desperately hopes they'll understand why she had to leave. 43 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: After she's landed in America, Joseph sends back a letter 44 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: that essentially says funck off, or as he puts it, 45 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: I hope from now on we shall be allowed to 46 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: arrange our own lives ourselves. Sorry, if I sound like 47 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: a Soviet lesbian, look I get it. If my mother 48 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: fled the uss Are and left me and my sister behind, 49 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: I'd say, Diane, what the hell were you doing in Russia? 50 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: And I have a sister. But what must that have 51 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: felt like to have your own children disown you, even 52 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: if you're the one who left them? Making matters worse 53 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: back in Russia. The kgbc's as personal items from St. 54 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: Lana's apartment. Heavily surveils her closest friends and pushes her 55 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: children to publicly denounce her. She is inadvertently hurting the 56 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: people she loves. Most things in America aren't going much 57 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: better speed Lana signing documents and publishing contracts. She doesn't 58 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: understand she's told she can't work with her translator of 59 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: choice because she might end up in bed with him. 60 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: Here she is talking with biographer Meryl Seacrest on the 61 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: world's tiniest microphone. It is part of her psychic imbalance 62 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: that after every man and so, I mean that is 63 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: very but it's would you want to insult it? Oh? 64 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: I was? I was madly hill, spent Lana begrudgingly agrees 65 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: to work with her publisher's translator of choice, an American 66 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: named Priscilla Johnson McMillan. Spent Lana doesn't yet have a 67 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: permanent place to stay, so they can live and work 68 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: together for a few weeks at Priscilla's father's house on 69 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: Long Island. So who is Priscilla Johnson McMillan. Well, she's 70 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: an American journalist, translator, and historian who spent a lot 71 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: of time covering Soviet politics, and according to The New 72 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: York Times, she is also the only known person to 73 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: have a quote conversed extensively with both JFK and his assassin, 74 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald. Seems like a pretty cool person, right, 75 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: I bet spent Lana had a great time with her. 76 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Stupid woman who was my fain in the neck? Priscilla Johnson. 77 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Priscilla Johnson, who was not qualified. I say, I've heard 78 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: that still in speent Lana's time together wasn't exactly peach. 79 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: So wouldn't it be cool if I spoke to Priscilla 80 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: to paint a picture of the time they spent translating 81 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: spent Lana's book. Wouldn't it be fabulous for me as 82 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: a writer to get insight from another writer's process of 83 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: editing and translating my protagonista, especially if they sparred well. 84 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: I called Priscilla to ask her to be in my podcast. 85 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: As a playwright who had never done anything like this, 86 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: I was incredibly nervous when she picked up. I hadn't 87 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: hit record yet, and she asked if I was a woman. 88 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: I am a man, and I have to tell you, Um, 89 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I have a very high voice. Um, it doesn't matter 90 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: at all. Well, we spoke pleasantries for a while and 91 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: she agreed to be interviewed. But I didn't want to 92 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: dive in just yet. She really is a worthy subject 93 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I know you'll do it justice. Well, they 94 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: you so much, and I look forward to our next conversation. 95 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: I really do. When we get to talking about spet Lana, 96 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: I get nervous. I talk about some far off distant 97 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: time when we'd actually get into all the nitty gritty details. 98 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: And to what extent she just propel catapulted. I don't 99 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: know the word. Oh my god, Priscilla, I am so 100 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: excited to interview you. You have no idea. You have 101 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: no idea. So in summary, if you, like me, are 102 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: actually afraid of podcasting, just tell your sources to save 103 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: it for the formal interview. Yeah. So worse, we're confirming 104 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: or in the process of confirming a time. She is. 105 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: So there. I was with hours of phone calls and 106 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: dozens of scheduling emails and nothing really to show for it. 107 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: But I knew the next time we talked, Yes, the 108 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: very next time, I'd finally get the goods. And then 109 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: historian Priscilla McMillan died July seven, just short of her 110 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: ninety third birthday. Fuck. When I heard the news, I 111 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: was sitting in my apartment in Portland, Oregon. Of course, 112 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: I was sad that this lovely and seemingly beloved woman 113 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: I've been corresponding with for months had died, but also 114 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the overriding feeling I had at that moment was shame. 115 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: I didn't get the scoop. I'm not a podcaster, I'm 116 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: not a journalist, I'm no biographer. Sped Lana ultimately didn't 117 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: think Priscilla was qualified to tell her story, but to 118 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: be fair, I doubt I would have done a better job. 119 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't even speak Russian. When the translation is finished, 120 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Priscilla and sped Lana part ways. Sped Lana leaves Long 121 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: Island to spend the summer on a secluded farm in 122 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: western Pennsylvania, where she can try again to grasp that peaceful, quiet, 123 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: writerly life. The farm is owned by George Kennon, a 124 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: major American diplomat credited with being the architect of the 125 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: Cold War. He was also the key fixer in getting 126 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: sped Lana to the States. Speed Lana is ready to 127 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: get off the map and hang out with Kennon's daughters, 128 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Grace and Joan. Unfortunately for us, these two women are 129 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: one hundred percent alive. Here's Joan. She enjoyed being out 130 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: in the country. She's so enjoyed not being harassed by people. 131 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: Joan and spent Lana became close that summer. Joan's sister, 132 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: Grace on the other hand, says she ended up tending 133 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: to speed Lana's every need and resenting her for it. 134 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: Of course, I had very little time to talk to 135 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: speed Lana. My dream of she and I were going 136 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: to have these long, wonderful I had brought a notebook. 137 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: I was going to write in it every night. Well, 138 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: need will say that remained empty and spent. Lana was 139 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: quite a demanding I was guest. She was a vegetarian 140 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: and wanted pair brandy and if she didn't get what 141 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: she wanted, And much as she liked to disconnect herself 142 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: from her father, she had some similarities. This is a 143 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: recurring theme and part of why it finds that Lana 144 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: so fascinating. She can leave people with wildly different tastes 145 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: in their mouths, like a Soviet cilantro. That summer, while 146 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Grace was playing Cinderella downstairs, Speed Lana would disappear up 147 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: to her bedroom the whole third floor, to herself, sweltering 148 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: in the summer heat, as she worked on her writing. 149 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: When she'd emerged, she and Joan would simp tea on 150 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: the porch and pick vegetables in the garden, and as 151 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: Jones's kids played, Speed Lana would talk about how she 152 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: missed her own children terribly back in Russia. I mean, 153 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: that has to be the guilt of having left your children. 154 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: But at the same time she felt strongly she'd done 155 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: the right thing for her. But even though she has 156 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: to the Kennon Farm to privately ready her memoir for 157 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: the world and grieve her kids in peace, do you 158 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: think the American media leaves her alone. They do not. 159 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: At one point they said she would have been committed 160 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: to an insane asylum. Spet Lana learns from the press 161 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: that she'd warned the diamonds of the Robanoffs. She didn't, 162 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: that her father had left her riches in a Swiss 163 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,479 Speaker 1: bank he hadn't, that she had partaken and quote passionate 164 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: affairs with orgies never happened. The KGB gives stet Lana 165 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: the nickname of Kukushka, meaning cuckoo bird, and Soviet Premier 166 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: Alexei Kosekin declares her an enemy of the state at 167 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: a u N press conference in New York. Hallelujsva is 168 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: a morally unstable person, and she's a sick person. This 169 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: time period is incredibly unnerving for spet Lana, She's getting 170 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: a nasty taste of the real world, and she needs 171 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: to do something about it. One afternoon on the farm, 172 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: spet Lana asks lighter fluid and goes over to the barbecue. Then, 173 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: in front of a small crowd, she dramatically throws her 174 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: passport onto the flames, declaring, I am burning my Soviet 175 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: passport in answer to lies. Every day it seems she 176 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: is shedding more and more of her past life. Here's grace, 177 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: and she put on a white dress. She twirled around 178 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: in the garden with a little jar, collecting fireflies. She said, 179 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm free. I'm free. Free as she may be steed, 180 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: Lana is not in charge of the narrative. She had 181 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: wanted to be the writer of her own story, but 182 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: now she's a character for others. Not only are rumors 183 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: spreading that she's mentally imbalanced, but The New York Times 184 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: starts serializing chapters of her forthcoming memoir with sensational headlines 185 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: like how my mother killed herself and my brother dies 186 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: in disc race. True, the best marketing move would be 187 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: a tell all about life inside of the House of 188 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: stalin suicide, murder, abuse. But that's not the books that 189 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: Lana is writing. It's called twenty Letters to a Friend. 190 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: It's an intimate love letter to Russia, to her childhood, 191 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: the subtle growing understanding that her father was the head 192 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: of a horrible state. Speed Lana had given up her 193 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: children to tell the story of her family. She got 194 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: her book out to the world, but so quickly she 195 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: lost control. Now she's houseless, isolated and alone. And if 196 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: you want to know what state that leaves her in, 197 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: I can answer it for you in two words, New 198 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Jersey after the break Act too. I don't consider myself 199 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: a writer. In October of nine, spent Lana grants a 200 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: rare TV interview to promote the release of her book 201 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: on National Education Television. You plan to settle down into 202 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: the home of your own before long? Oh well maybe maybe? 203 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: What about your future personally? Do you expect to continue writing? 204 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: Do you have another book in mind? If you started 205 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: work on another book, I didn't begin to write it, 206 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: but I'm thinking about it because I still have many 207 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: things to say and many things to write about. Although 208 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't consider myself a writer, girl, I've been there 209 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: for years. I shied away from calling myself a writer 210 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: when people would ask me what I did. I might 211 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: say I write, but then I'd be sure to qualify 212 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: it by the jobs I had that made money, bookstore clerk, 213 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: children's birthday party host, professional frog storyteller. That's right, that's right, 214 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: frog stroke. Do you want to know why I rolled 215 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: my heart? Why I go? This existential anxiety even made 216 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: its way into the play I wrote about spet Lana. Well, 217 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: technically it's a play, a out a playwright writing a 218 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: play about spent Lana. Here's me and my friend Cassie 219 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: rehearsing that scene. I don't water rights player. So many 220 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: of us ask permission to write. It took spent Lana 221 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: forty one years to ask the world to call her 222 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: a writer, and she still couldn't even say it herself. 223 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: But still, from her book advance, she gets a bunch 224 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: of money, and with that money, spent Lana decides to 225 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: finally settle down in a home of her own. After 226 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: bouncing around for months, she goes for a pre furnished 227 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: house in Princeton, New Jersey. It's a smart choice. Princeton 228 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: is its own academic enclave, reminding spent Lana of her 229 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: circle of friends back in Moscow. But Princeton can also 230 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: be a cold, stuffy classes place like Tucker Carlson's asshole 231 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: with more bow tie. She wrote her first book in 232 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: secret in Soviet Russia. It was immediate and thrilling. Now 233 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: she's in the suburbs of New Jersey, free to do 234 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: anything she wants. It's a new kind of writer's block. 235 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: She has all the time and freedom and money that 236 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: she could ask for, but how on earth to begin? Well? Friends, Luckily, 237 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: there's nothing that unlocks those creative juices like fallen in love, 238 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: which is exactly what happens next. The man who captures 239 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: fet Lana's heart an American journalist named Louis Fisher. At 240 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: seventy one, Louis Fisher is thirty years older than sveet Lana. 241 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: He's written more than twenty books and rubbed elbows with 242 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: everyone from Ernest temming Way to Eleanor Roosevelt to Winston Churchill. 243 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: During Stalin's rise, he'd lived in Russia and worked as 244 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: a foreign correspondent. And when speed Lana meets him in Princeton, 245 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: he's coming off the high of winning a National Book 246 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Award for the Life of Lenin. It's hardly surprising that 247 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Fisher would go after speed Lana. The man was a 248 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: major Russophile, and it makes sense that speed Lana would 249 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: go after Fisher. He was, to quote Ron Burgundy, a 250 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: very big deal. In my humble opinion, Lewis and speed 251 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 1: Lana's relationship is bucked up and makes me mad. My 252 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: producer Alison found a bunch of speed Lana's letters to 253 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: Fisher at the Princeton Archives and got a little obsessed 254 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: with unpacking all of the well documented weirdness. All right, Alison, 255 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: why why are you obsessed with these letters? It feels 256 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: a little bit like walking into a room you're not 257 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: supposed to be in, Like they're very intimate. You'll see you, 258 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: We'll get into it. Spent Lana first meets Louis Fisher 259 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: at a dinner our party at the Kennon's Princeton home 260 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: in the fall of nineteen sixty seven. He shows her around, 261 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: takes her under his wing. He's intensely charming. It doesn't 262 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: take long for spet Lana to fall for him, and 263 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: within a few months things become pretty and dense. And 264 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: maybe we should start by just talking about the day 265 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: that everything changes, the day of Martin Luther King Jr's 266 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: This fassination April four, at the height of the Civil 267 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: rights movement. The Nobel Prize winning preacher was standing on 268 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: his hotel balcony in Memphis, Tennessee, when he was struck 269 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: by a bullet and murdered. It was the kind of 270 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: harrowing and tragic event that was violent and political and 271 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: deeply personal for so many, including spet Lana. And there 272 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: is a memorial in the Princeton Chapel. Louis Fisher takes 273 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: that Lana, and she writes how these big traumatic events 274 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: in life have the capacity to bondas forever in these 275 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: beautiful ways. She claims that it was like the union 276 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: of their souls, like that was them getting married. Here's 277 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: my friend Cassie again. She plays feed Lana in my 278 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: play and shall read speed Lana's words in this podcast. 279 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: Sitting there together, feeling together, listening to the immortal words 280 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: of old and the New Testament, I had a strange feeling. 281 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: It was like as if we were joined together as 282 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: never before. We were blessed in the chapel that day 283 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: by the priest Martin Luther King. It was our waiting, 284 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: the union of two souls to be always together, to 285 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: do only good to each other. Unfortunately, Louis Fisher does 286 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: not share it spelt Laana's intense affection. And I should 287 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: also mention Fisher had written a biography called The Life 288 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: and Death of Stalin, and now he's writing a book 289 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: about Soviet foreign relations. So is he actually interested in 290 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: speed Lana Alujeva or is he just using her speed? 291 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: Lana doesn't see the red blacks. She is swept up 292 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: in Louis Fisher's intellectual charm. What's more, he gives her 293 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: encouragement and validation as a writer. You have a long, 294 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: strong habit of writing for perps forty years or so. 295 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: That is as long as my whole life. I need help. 296 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: Your presence, even a silent one, these a great thing. 297 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: It helps in so many ways and so much. She 298 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: sees him as this mentor figure at this kind of 299 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: pivotal point in her career as a writer, and she 300 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: asks him for help. So she's really staking her claim 301 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: in two spots. She wants the boyfriend and she wants 302 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: the mentor. I know enough about set Lana to know 303 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: that that's not going to work out for her, because 304 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: she's been in this place looking for this combination of 305 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: affection and validation before and it didn't end well. Flashback Moscow. 306 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: Sixteen year old spet Lana was at a party in 307 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: the Kremlin when a successful thirty eight year old filmmaker 308 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: named Alexei Kapler asked her to dance. I wanted to 309 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: put my head on his shoulder and quietly close my eyes. 310 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: That evening we reached out to each other. We were 311 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: no longer strangers but friends, and thus began a covert, 312 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: chased affair between a schoolgirl and a much older artist, 313 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: exchanging forbidden books and movies, sharing their pain and loneliness, 314 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it. Kapler was set 315 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: Laana's first great love or her first great predator. Either way, 316 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: his impact on her was profound. He shaped my mind 317 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: as my father knew that man has stolen. He even 318 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: told me, I think you can write. In the end, 319 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: the newspapers got wind of their secret relationship, and Stalin 320 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: was apoplectic. For the first time ever, he smacked his 321 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: darling little sparrow. He called her a whore and a fool. 322 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Kapler was sent to the Siberian Gulag and spent. Lana 323 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: was alone, ashamed and destroyed. So this was spent Lana's 324 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: formative early romance, one that surely colored her later relationships. 325 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: She seems to always find these types and fall for 326 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: them too fast. Brilliant older guys who encouraged her to 327 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: find her voice, but have their own agenda, and that 328 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: was certainly the case with Louis Fisher. I wanted to 329 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: know more about set Lana and Louis Fisher's relationship from 330 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: someone who'd seen it, so we tracked down Fisher's former assistant, 331 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: a woman by the name of Deirdre who lives in 332 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. I dialed her number and left a message. 333 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: A few days later, I got this voicemail back. Hello, 334 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: this is Deirdrew's returning your call about set Lana. I 335 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: didn't know her very well, but she was nutty as 336 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: a fruitcake, and you'd probably know from your research. Um, 337 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: this will probably be a very shad, painful conversation. I 338 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: hope you have time to bear with me. The whole 339 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: thing was just such a mess. Deirdre was right, this 340 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: whole thing was a mess. When we come back, it's 341 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: going to get bloody awful. Act three A pain in 342 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: the glass before I take us whitewater rafting down the 343 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: river of broken hearts. I want to be clear, I'm 344 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: telling you about this doomed love affair not just to gossip, 345 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: but because this episode is about spent Lana fighting to 346 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: manifest her long held dreams. In her pursuit of creativity 347 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and authorship. Spent Lana look to mail mentors time and 348 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: again for guidance, and with the notable exception of her 349 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: husband Bridges Singh, who helped her smuggle or manuscript out 350 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: of Russia and into India, they always let her down. 351 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: All right back to Princeton, Spent Lana is falling hard 352 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: for her mentor slash lover, Louis Fisher, except that this 353 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: whole time Fisher is with spent Lana. The man is 354 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: one hundred percent married with children. And I can't say 355 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: for sure how many other women were in the picture, 356 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: but I will say that Louis Fisher seemed to collect 357 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: women like I collect troll dolls. In the nineties. I 358 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: had one dressed as a wizard. Here's Allison again, talking 359 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: about some of Fisher's raunchiest love letters. There's one letter 360 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: on Kama Sutra letterhead. One of my favorites is actually 361 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: quite elegant. I think the woman, and she says, come 362 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: over one afternoon and tell me how horrible you are. 363 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes so Louis is evidently prolific, and while it seems 364 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: like everyone involved is clear eyed about what's going on, 365 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: it also seems like spet Lana really believes they have 366 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: something deeper, something unique in their own You do not me, 367 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: they mistress, forgive my vulgar words. Neither I ever looked 368 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: to find a lover. Were both need something else, warmth, friendship, understanding. 369 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: But as Fisher pulls away, spet Lana's letters get desperate, pleading. 370 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: She does don't want to see him. Wait, never mind, 371 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: she does, She's sorry, Actually no, she's not, caps lock, 372 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: exclamation points, chaotic scribbles in the margins. At one point, 373 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: things get so bad that spent Lana rights she can't 374 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: sleep without tranquilizers. All of this could lead some to 375 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: think that this is an unstable person, but spent Lana's 376 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: also living an unstable life. She's trying to make a 377 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: home as quickly as she can, desperate for anything that 378 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: would resemble a family. So maybe when her relationship falls apart, 379 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: it would make sense that she'd be well, a little senseless. 380 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: It's the kind of character I'm starting to understand, the 381 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: kind I want to write or rewrite because I'm undraft 382 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: like two and the play is supposed to go up 383 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: soon by the fall of night, things are tents. According 384 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: to Dear Droll. One evening, it all comes to a 385 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: head at Fisher's house. I was over at Mr Fisher's 386 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: house and it was kind enough to let me use 387 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: his bath tub. I hate showers, and it was a 388 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: big treat for me to be able to use the bathtub. 389 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: So sped Lana shows up to retrieve her letters and 390 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: other belongings, and she absolutely loses it, knocking and storming 391 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: on the door with sed Laana hysteric siscure. She wanted 392 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: the present's fact that she gave him. Apparently he tried 393 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: to bring it off with her, and she bust this 394 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: the door in the screen and Mr Fisher called the cops, 395 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: and I wasn't able to do much. I was in 396 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: the bathtub. Sped Lana had pounded on the front door 397 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: and then circled round the back and bashed in a 398 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: glass window. Her hands were covered in blood and the 399 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: cops came. The neighbors to call the cops. Great dog 400 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: in the station and booked her. And the whole thing 401 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: was just you know what, this woman could have his 402 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: duryod we buckets and the job of a cleanic I thought, 403 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I thought, britt she was just so much. Talking with 404 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: Deardro was both exhilarating and uncomfortable. I wanted to know 405 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: all about set Lana's relationship with Fisher, and I think 406 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: I really got there. I listened to dear Drew as 407 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: she recounted this low point in set Lana's life. I 408 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: got the story. I felt like a real podcaster. I 409 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: felt proud, and now I feel guilty because it's easy 410 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: to paint set Lana as the fool her father once 411 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: accused her of being, because if you just took a 412 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: snapshot out of that moment sixty years ago, you'd find 413 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: a crazed Russian woman stammering, screaming at Louis Fisher, the 414 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: man who fucked her and then fucked her over. Maybe 415 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: he's feed Lana's rage is more than just for Fisher. 416 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it comes from a lifetime of oppression, suppression, and betrayal. 417 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: Maybe when she bashed her fist through the window, it 418 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: was meant for all the people who encouraged her, who 419 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: helped her find her voice, and then violated her at 420 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: the same time. It's a cycle she seems to be 421 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: trapped in. But what I love about spet Lana, and 422 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: what I hope you'll love about her too, is that 423 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: she still seems to have the optimism, the openness, the 424 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: resilience to do it all over again. And despite everything, 425 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: she still describes these years as her happiest ones in America. 426 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: In the fall of nineteen sixte spent Lana publishes her 427 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: second book, only one year about her defection to an arca. 428 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: It's a major accomplishment, the first book she set out 429 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: to write with the intent to publish, the first book 430 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: to assert that she spent Lana is just as interesting 431 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: as her much beguiled father. She might be a character 432 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: in someone else's story, but damn it, she can also 433 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: write her own. She's getting what she came here for. 434 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: The world feels big and exciting. It's beckoning her no literally. 435 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: You see. While most of her fan mail was from normal, 436 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: ordinary Americans who were moved by the defecting daughter, there 437 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: was one admirer who was far from ordinary. It started 438 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: with one letter, then another, then another, then telegrams and 439 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: gifts and phone calls, all coming from a very strange, 440 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: very peculiar, very mysterious woman from the other side of 441 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: the country, a place full of wonder and majesty, a 442 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: place I like to call Scottsdale, Arizona, jess Hand. She 443 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: was calling me six months. I was course first by her. 444 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: I was in Princeton, and she was invitingly an invited 445 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: for six months. Finally chicolled on the telephone and I 446 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: heard her voice. We are all waiting for here on 447 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: the next episode of spent Lata sped Lata, sped Laana. 448 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: Sped Lana is a production of I Heard Podcasts and 449 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: the documentary group I'm Your Host Dan Controcer. The show 450 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: was written and produced by me Adam Weber, Alison Joy, 451 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: and Katherine Isaac. We also serve as executive producers at 452 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: the documentary group. Our executive producer is Job Silhouettes, with 453 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: production oversight by Stacy Cleeker and additional support from Tom 454 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: Yellen and Gabrielle Tennenbaum. Our I Heart team is supervising 455 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: producer Casey Pegram and executive producer Maya Howard. Editing assistants 456 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: for producers Christina Loranger and Joey Patt. Original music by 457 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: Ellen Isakov. Production counsel by Slaus eck House, Dasty Haynes Locko, 458 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: Clearance counsel by Ballard Spar, Back checking assistance by Megan Trout, 459 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: Research assistants by min J. Kim. Special thanks to my 460 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: husband Jordan's Siegel. Excerpts from Svetlana Aloujeva's book Twenty Letters 461 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: to a Friend are provided by Chris Evans and performed 462 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: by Cassie Greer