WEBVTT - In Case You Missed It: #16 - Brandon Ray 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:07.800 What episode away? I right, is that paper? Episode sixteen. 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:11.320 Welcome to episode sixteen in the Bobby Cast. I'm your host, 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:16.720 Bobby Cast. That's great here with Brandon Ray on Twitter, 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.680 Brandon Ray Music here right now? What's going on? Okay? So, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:22.640 I think are talking a little different than any of 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.200 the talks that I've had with an artist before, because 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.080 I think with you, you're right in the middle of 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.920 the try like you're right in the middle of trying 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.920 to find your spot wherever it is in this industry 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.240 and in the past, that's what's cool about this. I 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.240 can do whatever I want. In the past, I've had 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.639 people who have made it as great songwriters, people who 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:44.159 have made it as artists, like you're just pretty mediocre 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.320 right now. Let's me to be honest. That's that's my 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.440 middle name. So listen, Brandon is one I've played him 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.080 on the show before, like he's that good. So um, 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.960 we'll talk to Brandon right after this message from Blue Apron. 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.600 By the way, you ever had Blue Apron? Blue Apron, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:03.960 that's great of it. Listen, Blue Apron is awesome. Without them, 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.720 we would not be able to do this, Bobby Cast. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.760 And so let me tell you what Blue Apron. Does 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:09.440 they send food you ever have Blue Apron? You can 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.520 say no, it's it's okay. 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I don't just say that 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.799 about anybody, um, because I get to see everybody, so 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.680 bebian said Brandon. I'll play a song right now that 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.360 that Brandon has out. This is called American way. Here 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:15.160 we go, us down to freaking weekend him him a 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:24.079 sea baby. Brandon's also a fantastic guitar player. So I 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.400 play this this is that could be us from rand 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:38.280 A right good long, could be all right, welcome back 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:39.600 to the music now. Would like to be as honest 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.680 as possible as of right now. You do not have 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.720 a record deal. Not okay. So here you are, You're 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.440 in talent, you're grinding, you're playing, You're like of the 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.560 rest of Nashville. You're really good, and you don't have 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.960 a record deal right now. So what has that process 0:03:56.040 --> 0:04:00.320 been like? Like, have you played for people? Like hey, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.520 like I'm gonna talking about every time she played Kaylin Smith. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:04.880 She played for some people and they all say no, no, no, no, 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.840 no no no, no, no no no, like whatever it 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.320 is right now? No, have you been through that where 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.560 you've played? They go, no, not right now. We We've 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.560 taken we've taken a little swing a couple of times. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.440 But what do that mean? Like just you know people 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.200 like I have a publishing deal with Sony a TV, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.159 which means you write, I write songs for a living 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.040 for you know, artists, for TV, film, sinks for you 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:33.359 know myself that Sony then takes those songs pitches them. Uh. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.280 And what they have is an artist development branch inside 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.200 the publishing company that kind of does like a They 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:42.240 help you with recording, they help you with touring, Like 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.760 I've just booked a show with Jake Owen in Vegas. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.920 You know it's gonna cost us much. I might lose 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.800 this much and they make up the difference like that. Okay, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.480 so you have a publishing deal and that's how you 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:58.640 eat plus touring. Yes, so that's your job. But you're 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.640 you want to be an artist. I do. I you know, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.920 right now for me is is building. It's it's the 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:11.160 the building phase of of touring my my butt off, 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.960 like every single weekend. I think I've been gone Thursday 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:19.000 through Sunday every weekend since February. And uh, it's so 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:23.200 important right now to to build that fan base, whether 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.440 it's it's being out with you guys, which I can't 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.160 thank you enough for inviting me out with the raging 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:32.040 idiots because it's been such a blast, Like the fans 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.440 show up. I mean every single show is sold out, 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.320 Like I don't think people will realize how how big 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.000 it is and how fun it is, and just those 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.320 chances and believers like you that that just say hey, man, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.520 come hang and and then we get to know each 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.840 other and and you you you know, promote things for 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.120 me or you know, share a post of mine or 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.960 share a song on your show. It is it means 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.880 everything to someone like me because I don't have a label, 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.880 I don't have the radio supply work right now and uh, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.360 right now you know in this for this for the 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.920 past six to eight months has been just grind and 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.560 just going town to town to town building, uh and 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:16.040 making believers out of everybody I play for, all of 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.800 the headliners I opened for, and even the club and 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.360 theater owners that I play talk about the headliners. The 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.040 eve before that, I said, hey, come out on the 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.800 road because I think it pretty good. Who have you 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.120 played for that You're like, dang this it was really cool. Recently, man, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.560 there's there's been uh, just a lot of really cool people. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:36.640 John Party has just kind of overwhelmed me with just 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.120 he's just such a nice guy and uh, his fan 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:44.040 base is just is growing rapidly. Definitely haven't get the 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.600 number one song and another great song. Yeah man, And 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.960 even before uh, I was playing with him even before 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.360 Boots went number one. I think it was in the 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:57.760 top twenty, and his fans knew every single word to 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.120 every song, even even like the B sides of his album. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:02.400 You know, he'd be like, I want to take it 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.400 back to you know, one of my first releases and No. 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:07.800 Nine and he plays it and the crowd just takes over, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.120 and Uh, so that just taught me. He's taught me 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.600 so much about just kindness and how to treat people. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.560 And uh, guys like John Party, guys like keep More. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.920 Martin McBride has had me out on a few runs, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.600 which that was so cool, you know, getting to just 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.680 kind of be a part of a show that that 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.920 she's doing. And um, guys like David Neil. I'm going, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.679 uh this weekend out in the Midwest doing some shows 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.040 and then next weekend with Frankie Ballard and uh, it's 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.840 just it's all about to hang, you know. I used 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.320 to play uh guitar for different artists in town, one 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.440 in particular being Brett Eldred. I think that's where we 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.400 met the first time. I think I was shooting a 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.120 TV thing with Brett where we lay in the bunk 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.080 together and you were playing guitar for Brett Elders. That's right. Yeah. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.800 The thing about Brandon is I didn't like Brandon the 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.080 first time. I really hung out with it, like I thought, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.920 what a douche bag for about two hours because what 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.120 happened was, now, this is the first story I didn't 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:10.480 I judged him simply on his hair, like because no, no, 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.800 it's actually I like it now. But it was spiked, 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.960 you know, and almost like Okay, dude, spiked there. Come on. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.120 So he gets on with someone that I just think 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.160 is phenomenal, like Lucy Sylvia's went out with us on 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.360 the road and is quite possibly one of my favorite 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.920 people and artists in Nashville. Bobby, Bobby, thank you so 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.000 much for having me on the road, and thank you 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.760 so much for just being a great friend. So Lucy 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.760 sila and Brandon plays guitar for her, and I was like, hey, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:42.920 just take the bus with us. I don't don't don't drive, 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.520 don't pay for expensive just get on the bus and 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.840 you can sleep on the box. And so that man, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.439 it was a total douche and so and then of 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.320 the night it was just Brandon night, and we talked 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:52.800 about four hours. It was like a brand new couple, 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.120 you know, how you meet somebody and you're like, we 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.040 just talked all night long. I think I'm in love. 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.240 And that's how it was Brandon. And so you know, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.240 with us, we either had Nat with the raging idiots 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.079 we think Natalie Stowball or Lindsay l Um and then 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.880 for some reason not for some reason, they're both phenomenal. 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.599 They were doing their own tours and I was like, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.000 we need another player. Let's get Brandon because he was 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:16.959 And so now we'll just have Brandy come out with 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.920 them and listen, I don't have lead singer disease, which 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.480 means I don't have to sing all the time or 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.559 half the time. When you have somebody like Brandon, it's like, 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:29.600 all right, you're take it away. Here's Brandon. Everyone uh 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.240 and and Brandon like blows you away when he sings. Now, 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:33.959 let's go back for a second because I have some 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:37.160 stuff here. Um, this is a jingle called Let's Go Cubs. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.319 So this is you and how and how long ago was? 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.840 This was? Oh seven, so almost ten years ago. Okay, 0:09:45.840 --> 0:10:09.480 here we go. Yeah, okay, did you write did you 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.959 write that? That's terrible songs? But you're saying it well 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.719 and listen for me. I'm a diehard Cubs fan. And 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.160 it's weird too because I also liked Cardinals a lot, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:21.760 and as you get older, you realize that I like 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.440 as a kid, I was not a Cardinal fan because 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:25.240 I was a Cubs fan. But then I had friends 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.800 that played for the Cardinals, and then I got to 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.840 know the organization, and so you know, I'm a diehard 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:33.600 Cubs fan. And I were talking about this minute ago, 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:34.920 like right now, you may hear this in a month 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.080 in the World Series. Maybe over maybe the Cups got swept, 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.320 maybe they wanted At this point, we don't know. It's 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:44.600 one zero. I'm a diehard Cups fan. And people are like, oh, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.800 bandwagon ers, we hate him. I don't care if they're bandwagoners. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.120 I don't care if you call me a bandwagoner because 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.959 I only care about my heart and right now, I 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.800 just want my heart to be full with the Cubs victory. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.439 Like I haven't head this on this show, and I 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:58.920 don't know if I will or not, but I'm going 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.480 to Game four of the World Series because my whole 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.040 life I've been waiting for this. That's such a dream. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.000 They haven't won in a hundred and eight years, and this, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.440 this song probably kept them from winning other games, because 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:10.679 that's terrible. If they heard this, they were like, we 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.880 should suck like the song does, like the singer is 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:20.360 pretty good, but how much they pay to do this? 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.600 All right? I'm gonna be completely honest right now. Um, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.640 I sang jingles for I was in a rock band 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.400 through high school and college. And I was trying to 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.160 go to college and touring with this rock band, and 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.480 I worked for this company called T M Century that 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.679 did jingles. They did everything from like radio tags like 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.240 any five five you know, all that kind of stuff 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.400 and stuff like this. You know where you submit, you know, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.320 there's like hey, um, like they just said, Chicago Cubs, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.240 they're looking for a cool new theme song to play 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.760 on their w J. We're gonna have you sing this anyway. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.960 So this guy, this is the one of the riders. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.400 I say that with quotes um the writer producers like, Hey, 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.600 I had just got done singing like Dave and Sandy 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.520 in the Morning, you know, some some awful song like that, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.280 because hey, man, uh I got this Chicago Cubs pitch thing. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.080 You know, they're looking for something. I was like, dude, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.199 I love. I'm such a huge baseball fan. I was 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.720 telling you earlier, huge Texas Rangers fan. You know, watch 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.839 Nolan Ryan as a kid and all that, and I 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.400 was like, dude, let's do it. And so we recorded 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:32.240 this awful excuse for a song and it got picked up. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.319 It was these picked up. I was so surprised and 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.880 kind of um, kind of sick about it because they 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.839 paid me forty dollars and that's it. So okay, So 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.520 you got paid a salary though to sing, no, you're 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:53.439 a contract and I got paid. They should have like 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.679 I should have paid them. I mean that. Listen listen. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.839 I don't take any away from the vocal of that, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.400 but listen when I go, Cubs Go, Go, Cubs go, like, 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.320 that's the one that I That's what when they win, 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.960 that's what they play. I was just doing my job. Man. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:12.760 You talk about singing jingles, I think that's a fun 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.439 thing to talk about, because did you sing like a 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.800 frisky is the cat jingle? I did? Yeah, I sing, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:21.000 I sing It's awful, you know, just this happy like 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.400 you know, little toy piano thing that and I have 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.439 I have a buddy in New York who runs a 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.640 music house that he does like Toyota Nissan for He's 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.920 done a ton of commercials and sometimes when they need 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.280 non union singers, he'll give me a call, and still 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.120 to this day, like he'll be like, hey man, you 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.640 know this company, they just want to do a one 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.959 time fee because you sing this thing and you know 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.880 it might get picked up, it might not. So I've 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.160 sing so many jingles that haven't gotten picked up, but 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.839 I've sing about you know, six or seven that that 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.880 got picked up. What has it got picked up? Like 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.160 I'm curious enough I would recognize any of them? Uh 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.040 so Miller Lite. There was a commercial back in I 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:06.199 think the twelve World Series where this guy was putting 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.280 a quarter in a jukebox and every time he would 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:10.920 hit a song he wanted to play, like Rocky, like 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.120 a Hurricane by the Scorpions. It would come up as 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:18.719 is it Eric Carmen who saying, oh, by myself, that 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:20.400 song will play, and I all I had to do 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.200 was just sing it, you know. And I'm sitting at 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.960 a bar in Cool Springs watching the World Series and 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:29.560 the guy was like, hey man, it's down to you 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.440 and another another guy. I don't know if you'll get it, 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.160 but check it out. And so I watch it exactly 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.200 Eric Carmen. He was up against Yeah, Eric Carmen himself. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.440 He needs the money. No. Uh. And it played and 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.680 I was like, that's not me, Like that does not 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.200 sound like me. And and then he calls me, he's like, 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.040 did you hear it? I was like, yeah, it wasn't me. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:50.520 He's like, no, it was you, dude. He's like, I 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.280 had to put this crazy compression thing on it, but 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.400 that's you. I was like, oh my god, So did 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.320 you get paid for that? But since you're not in union, 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.600 you get paid one time, one time? And that's what 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.600 what was that one? Do you remember it was? It 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.200 was a good amount. Over thousand dollars? Oh yeah, over 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.640 five thousand dollars? Wow? Really? Did? I have a buddy 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.400 who did a commercial for like four or something and 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.200 he made I did three commercials and made three hundred 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.120 and eighty thousand dollars. It's incredible. Yeah, And so he 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:21.160 made it and he invested in a band and lost 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.640 all and blew it all. I was like, you know, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.720 I could have given you about a hundred investment idea 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:31.600 maybe Apple, I don't know, Walmart dunkin Donuts. Maybe you 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.520 pick Yahoo who just on a bankrupt that's your first instinct. 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:37.160 Maybe you had to look at your money? Should you should? 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.000 I need? I was thinking of Atlantis more set who 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.280 like invested early made like three fifty million dollars. At 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.600 a point in our life. Yah, who was the search engine? 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.080 It was like it wasn't Yahoo it but it was 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.640 like go to Yahoo, you know, so we would go 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.640 to Yahoo dot com. It was before Google, and you 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.680 searched on Yahoo. That's where we found. For a minute, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.200 to ask Jeeves was the name you got to the 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.440 butler and to be like, Jeeves, where can I find 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.880 information on the scorpions or who things rock? You'd like 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:09.080 her this week? Yes? And Jeeves the butler would tell you. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.560 But then Google took it up. Did you know Google 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:16.280 was called BackRub before it was called Google. Yah? It 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.480 the thing is and would it be okay, okay, we laugh, 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.040 but Google is a ridiculous word. And if you if 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.760 if if I was backrubbing something right now online and 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.400 I was like, hey, they almost called this thing Google, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.440 would be like why would they pick it? This stupid thing? 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.360 When backrob is awesome? Hey, just BackRub it Yeah, that's 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.680 what would be like, Hey, I'm gonna backroub blue Apron 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.000 to see that. How you know how much it listen. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.520 I don't hate BackRub. I know it sounds like you 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.760 hate it. I don't hate BackRub Randon. I think you're 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:51.520 being a little hater backgroub um. So you came you're 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.320 from Texas. So being from Texas and I can tell. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.800 But I lived a long time in Texas and I 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:59.920 loved like Austin to me as home to Austin is 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:04.600 my favorite. It's so good and because the people are 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.560 just chill. But when you're in Texas, you have a 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.040 lot of influences. So there's a lot of country music 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.320 around you. There's a lot of Southern rock around you. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.200 There's a lot of rock around you. So as you're 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.120 growing up, you were deciding kind of where you wanted 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.199 to go musically. Was it because a lot of your 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.240 friends were rock friends that you just said, I want 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.119 to do music, So I guess I'm gonna go and 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.960 try rock band. I didn't have any friends. No, I'm 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.280 just kidding, um No. I I originally wanted to be 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.000 a professional pitcher. I wanted to play baseball, professionally. I 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.800 played football, baseball, basketball, track, all that kind of stuff. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.880 And um, I had to have two surgeries on my foot. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.160 I have like two screws this long in my foot. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.520 And so basically they're like, hey man, when you go 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:48.480 this long. People that are only listening to this, they 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.720 having no idea how long that is? This long? Yes, okay, 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.879 that long? Okay, now they see the second time you 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.680 go this long, and yes, go ahead anyway, So it 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.760 took me out of sports camp lately, and so naturally 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.320 I was I had to lay up with my foot 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.440 up in the air. You know. It was such a 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.439 major surgery. I had two surgeries. For six months at 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.000 a time, I couldn't do anything. And so I was like, well, 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.000 you know, my brother plays drums and and and for 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.719 you now even in this day, he lives here in Nashville, 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.960 and we we were about to meet up. And you 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.159 can definitely tell to Brandon's brother when you see them together, 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.880 like a yeah, that's right, he's he's like a foot 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:32.760 shorter though. Um but uh, I bought a guitar, a 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.040 cheap guitar um with with a little amp and everything, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:41.080 and I would seriously watch Steve Ravan videos just on repeat, 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.200 and I just watched his Native Texas Native He's He's 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.359 the dude, and my dad loves Steve ra Van and 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.240 um so I started learning that stuff. But I also 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.479 started learning you know, a lot of my influences, like, uh, 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:57.439 you know, John Mellencamp, Metallica, Pantera, Garth Brooks, George Straight, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.560 Joe Diffy, like my my house was a melting pot 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:05.359 of music. And I think our age, though, is that's like, 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.960 if you're one, how old you Okay, if you're twenty 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.600 seven or above, is when you started to have napster 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:18.600 affect your life. And it's when that's the minds of 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.840 everyone starting to change about music. We got lots of 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.000 influences more so than anybody else because we started to 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:26.480 be able to get it all the time, anywhere, fast 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.040 as we want and for free. Yeah I mean illegally 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.640 and and listen back in the day, not the interrupted story, 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.760 but I wanna go almost interrupted story. Back in the day, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.880 I was so mad at Metallica for like for going 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.960 against there. I was like, Metallica sucks, they hate napster 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:40.520 and I get all the music for free, and I 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.919 deserve all the music for free. I was such an idiot. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.119 I was an idiot, and Metallica was absolutely right, and 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:50.240 that's right. This is people creating music. You should have 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.280 to pay for this. And I stole like crazy. I 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:56.119 would just log on, hit the letter A, and then 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.359 download every song. I started with A all formats. I 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.080 would go to sleep at night and wake up but 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.320 started with the A and be like, let's see what 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.640 I like today, Like, I don't like ABBA, but I'll listen. Yes, 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.040 And I would yes. So you're listening to all these 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.800 types of music and you have a guitar and a 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.520 broken foot basically, so do you just start learning to 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:15.760 play guitar? I just I don't know what it was. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.959 It was just almost like it was the only option. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.040 You know. I didn't have sports anymore. I was horrible 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.960 in school, and so I wanted to start a band 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.159 with my brothers, and uh, there you go, come on 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.639 your brothers at the time. So I have two older brothers, 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.040 and I think I think that's why I had such 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.560 a such a big influence of music. They were they 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:40.280 were older than I was, and so you let's know 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:44.600 what they like, what they like. My my brother, oldest brother, Derek, 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.480 would bring Home like Aerosmith and uh, you know, like 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.440 the Eagles and Don Henley, who Don Henley is my 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.120 favorite songwriter of all time? And uh, you know boys 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.080 a summer, Heart of Matt, Heart of the Matter. That's 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.600